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Welcome to part of my take presented by draft kings. The crown is yours today is Wednesday, April 15th and we've got some more playoffs at Happy Tax Day Hank. Happy Tax Day. Let's go,

get your shit done. You guys paying your taxes this year? Always. Always. I paid a little extra.

I had government game a little tip this year. Not 15% for two of you guys have done a great job. I'm on the extension October 15th so it's like April 15th always kind of fox me out because I'm like oh shit that I meant oh yeah. I just get one tax form to get you an extension and you just stay on the extension for life. No, I'm 100% on the extension. It's fox. Yes. I'd rather just be done. October 15th is my new tax day now. Whatever K1 is, don't even know Hank you paid your taxes

“sure. Yeah, you did them. When did you do them? I did do them. When did you tell him to do them?”

Recently. No, I don't think Hank still has taxes. I think this is all. Yeah. On the extension,

I don't think you're good. I don't think you're good. I don't think you're chilling. I'm good

and chillin. I got a question. Zach, do you pay taxes? Have you paid taxes? Do you pay taxes? Have you paid your taxes? I have paid taxes previously in life. I have not yet paid taxes this year. I will pay taxes today or try to do like a late extension situation. It's also like a state thing. I don't know if I'm following here. If I'm supposed to file back at the house, you know, your tax has got to be supposed to do. Because you moved up here. You lived in Florida for part of

“the year, right? Yeah. I think I lived in Florida. I think I lived in Florida. I think I might have”

lived in Florida too many days. Let's be careful what we say. I have no idea. I'm going to get a professional to do my taxes. Yeah. Zach, anytime somebody asks you a question about your taxes,

just refer them to your attorney. Did you hold on a sec? You're you're going, you're reaching out

now to start. I've got no for the comment at this time. Yeah. Talk to his attorney, Max. What are you wearing a wire? Well, I feel like it's pretty late to like go search for an accountant now. No, there's plenty of fly by night guys out there. They'll take it. Max, bad job by us to start to show. Max, congratulations on the Philadelphia Flyers. Flyer. Flyer. Flyer. Flyer. You're in the offs. I'm sorry that we that I had to do you like that. No, it's fun. You guys got a lot of loser

points this year and that catapulted you above us and we had more wins, but that's fun. You had more loser points and that's the way that the that the cookie crumble. So I want you to beat the penguins, Max. Yeah, let's go everyone's fire. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. It was

a crazy game. It was over time. You know, if they if they don't win the shootout, then you're

still alive. Yeah, they win the shootout. The 45% gone gone. And that's the thing about 45% is

“like there was a 55% chance that I wasn't going to make it. Actually, you should just you should just”

spin zone it and just be like, that was one of the greatest magic tricks of all time. The 5% you made 45% disappear so fast. 45% is that people forget that is actually more likely that they would not to play off. So I'm explaining that's Chef Donnie. What were you saying? The fires in the capitals actually have the same amount of wins. If anyone were to make that argument, it would be memes because the islanders have more wins. Oh, okay. Both of those. All right, my mistake.

Regulation wins. What about regulation wins? That's what you lose me. I don't know that you can't find regulation wins. I also don't really understand. I don't what what's in regulation. If you lose it. If you lose it over time, it's actually not that bad. Yeah. Regulation wins. Is that what if you win in over time? Is it? Is it? Is it? No, it's a win. The capitals had eight more regulation wins than about over time. But what let's, I can't get too into the nitty gritty with

hockey. No, I add up. That's, that's my personal state. Some really, really nitty gritty stuff. Yes, some big time. But how the point system works. Congratulations, Max. I do actually want you to beat the penguins. I'm rooting for you. This is not me being a troll. I hope that the Philadelphia Flyers beat the penguins in the playoffs. So congratulations. I'm happy for you. Congratulations. I'm excited. It's going to be fun. And we are set. Everyone hank also hockey to clinched it.

These up. Remember last year that was so funny when you were like, when the playoffs started and you're like, I'm excited for the Bruins. They're not in it. Oh shit. But you're back. Up Bruins, I've just said this verb. Yeah, no. I'm not saying that I was just a funny moment. Playoff's start and I lock in. Yeah. Yeah. And if the Bruins aren't in it, I don't. You lock out. That's fun. Yeah, you're the air Henry lock, you lock out. You can't pay attention to every sport all the time. No, I

agree with that. No, that's, it's very hard to do. I was going through it a little bit last night. I got very upset when the Flyers won in a shootout because the Hurricanes did not put their best players on the shootout lineup. For some reason, me and maybe you can explain that one to me. Positioning. Positioning. They just did play the game. Yeah. Well, they already had positioned the best record. Yeah. So I was a little bit upset because I did want to see OV and the boys take

on the penguins for old times sake one last time in the playoffs. I thought that would have been an awesome series. At least, at least for me to watch. And maybe I was going through a little bit too

“hard. But I started to think about the calendar year that DC sports has had. And I think I got”

that whole digging into some like deep sabre metrics on this. But based on the research that I've done, I think that the last 12 months in DC sports has been a top five all-time bad sports year for a city, for a sport, a four sports town. Okay. And also including that, I would say that like 2023 Chicago might be in there too. Yeah. If you take the white socks instead of the cubs as the baseball representative, I would put maybe 2015 Philadelphia, like 2014, 15 when you

guys were doing the process. That might be in the list too. And then I mentioned to Dom,

them too. Now, they're not four sports. But he said that, yeah, but you know what? That was like the year before we had Peyton Hillis. Oh. And then I thought to myself, that actually makes the

case that it might even be worse. Yeah. Because you're saying it's always darkest before the dawn,

but your dawn is Peyton Hillis playing so good that he got on the Madden cover, but the Brown still didn't make the playoffs. Correct. But yeah, I think that 2025, 2026 Washington DC is a top five all-time bad sports year with all four majors for all four major sports. The wizards historically bad. The nationals were terrible last year. The mistakes didn't make the playoffs. But we got it. Hey, we got a great center from UCLA. She's a beast. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, you got her. Yeah,

she's awesome. She's a beast. Yeah. And then the the commander's backsliding and just disappointing everybody. This has been a tough year. But maybe that just means it's it's darkest before the dawn. Peyton Hillis is coming. Peyton Hillis, I've got that means Luke McAfrey

“Pro Bowl next year. That's what that means. Jeremiah Love. Maybe. Maybe. But you see that,”

did you say to me that was like the last time every team has drafted a running back in the first round?

And the commander's was 1967. Yeah, I can't remember. Who is that? I don't know. I'll try to find the tweet. It's crazy. Yeah, it was it's been a tough year in DC. But that's okay. Because I do have to remind myself that I had that nice little two year run where everything worked out my way. But these are the things that you think about when you get frustrated with sports. And yeah, it's been a tough year. But we move on. But it also Max gets to get flared up. Max is flared up after about

Max. So it's all worth it. Yeah. Max so flared up. So flared up. Are you going to go pick tales? Sure. I'll go pick tales for the flag guys. Sorry, Soros. Sure. Okay. I'll get soggy as I don't. I don't have to. Don't do that. That's loser talk. Could you could just win the cup for the cup? Are you are you actually going to get flared up like through the cup? I want you to be actually upset if they lose. I can't promise you that. But I will be excited if they win. Okay.

That's promise. And I will get soggy if they lose. Also a promise. Also a promise. Love that. So yeah, we got play. I mean play out some playing. Choose your own adventure. I'm rooting for the Hornets. I hope the Hornets win. Yeah. This isn't to get in the playoffs. It's to get to the Friday play and game for the Eastern Conference for the Western Conference. I'm rooting for the Blazers because the bulls have their pick if the Blazers go to the playoffs. So Blazers Hornets.

“Yeah. Actually listening is right now. That's what happened. Hornets, Sums.”

Hornets, Sums. Why would you say that? Oh yeah. I want Hornets and you know, I'm going to say Clippers. I like that. That's not a game choosing your own adventure. Yeah. Would this is truly choosing your own adventure? Yeah. The Clippers play a Wednesday. Right. But I think I think that I want the Clippers to advance out of the play and got it. I want the Hornets. Those are two teams. Right. Yeah. What's the other one? The Hornets and the Clippers are the

two teams that I want to advance. There's two teams. It's conference. I'm saying I want the Clippers to advance. I want the Hornets to advance. I want the Blazers to win tonight. Okay. And I'm going to go sixers. I want to see. I want to see Max. Yeah. I don't want to see Max because he's guy. He's playing with house money with the flyers. Yeah. By the way, his stuff curried comments are just a playing guy. I feel like he's worse than in the playing every year. Yeah. Well,

he's they're even like limiting his minutes in the playing. Is he a playing merchant? He might be. I don't know. I don't know what the Warriors are going to even look like if Steph Curry's going play like 19 minutes. Not good. I hate to play it. I hate to play it. Max. I know I was bushing

“your balls the other day. It's playing stupid. It's stupid. And I honestly like until”

until a team in the 9th or 10th spot can go deep in the playoffs. I'm not going to take it

seriously. The 9th and 10th team are never going to win like they're never going to go deep. This is

serious. I know that the heat that one year that they went to the finals, they were we're in the playing. But they were a playoff team anyway. So it's like what are we doing? I just it's so stupid. I hate it. I hate the playing. I think it's exciting for like a team like the Hornets. I think it's fun for like one to two to two. Like the blazers are probably pumped. But it would have been cool too. If the blazers would have been in the playoffs. Yeah. So that one doesn't like the Hornets are

the only case that I'll hear because they wouldn't be in the playoffs normally. And it's now they get like a pseudo playoff game. But even then like what about just next year making the playoffs for real and having that be the excitement. Like we back in the playoffs. Yeah, the playoff. I don't

in every single season too. Yeah. That's like there. We actually like we left. We left them high

and dry because it was always the the bowls, the hocks and the heat. Yeah. Those those three teams

would just always be in the play it together. But yeah, I play it. Let's get to the weekend. Let's get to the weekend. We got double playoffs this weekend. This is my favorite week at the year. It is. This is your number one weekend of the year? No, no. Next week. Next week is your number one next

“two weeks. Are your number one two weeks of the year? I think it's the best sports time of the year.”

Is the first round of the NBA playoff in NHL? NHL? I'll go and get it. NBA playoff is first round is not. I mean, there's I'm excited for the temperals and nuggets. I would be excited for the heat, air of the hordes if they played the pistons. The hocks next could be good. I don't know what else I'm excited. Celtic sixers Celtic sixers could be good, but it will be fast. The sixers are one point favorites against the magic. So they're favorites. But like 55%.

That's pretty good. They're favorites. I like the NBA play. The first round of the NBA playoffs can be tough, but combined with NHL playoff. Yes. And the NHL playoff first round is awesome.

The bottom line is the same. You get playoff. You get double playoff. Double playoff. Yeah,

a lot of games. If you're nimble on the remote, you'll be able to tune into at least one hockey game and one NBA game per night that will be exciting. Yeah. You just have to be on your game.

“Okay. Anything else on play and playoffs? Anything. Do you see the bullshit they're doing? What?”

All nationally televised games. Oh, yes. Take them off. I did see this. This is bullshit. What? The local networks. It used to be local networks got the first round. So like Mike Breen could still do the next games. That is bullshit. That's completely bullshit, memes. Those guys, those guys go through the whole season. They don't get one playoff game.

No, it's, uh, I forget to step, but it's the first time ever. First round has been on SMY or

MSG since like the 60s. Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's so that poor Mike Breen. Mike Breen should get to call the, I guess he will end up probably calling a next game. I think so, but he should get to call a next game with Clyde Frazier and that would have been cool. Fuck it. memes. memes. What happened to the, uh, Islanders, by the way? Well, Frazier. I don't know why I said Clyde. Uh, they just had a bad march. They're playing

really, really, really, really, really bad. Okay. That was not Islanders. They were just getting destroyed by every game. They ended up firing their coach, hard peer to bore, to get it early start for next season. To get it really start with your coach's Patrick Waw, right? No long.

“How do you take it? Uh, I think fine. Probably could see all the rings in his ears. Yeah, it's true.”

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He's next. He's absolutely new. You same bolt shaking in his boots. I think what you say. Let's remember what exactly you said you don't respect speed. What? That's not what I said. That's absolutely not what I said. We were talking about sprinting. I don't think sprinting would be that. No. No. What was the debate? It was Donald Trump or I show speed. The debate was what was it? Was it you could run fast, but you could only do it on the track and then what was the other

side of it? Swim? No. Was it swim? No. Wasn't swim. Does anyone remember this? This is going

“to drive us nuts. I just remember that you. No. No. Because that's not running fast. And I think”

got to prove that running fast would be. No. You have to help me out. Don't remember. Come on. Actually, don't remember what the debate was. It was, would you rather run fast? You kept saying but it's only on a track. Yeah. And then which is why I didn't like it. Yes, right. I only do it on a track. What was the other side? It was some sort of Olympic sport. Come on. Figure skating. Figure skating. That's what it was. Oh yeah. Be able to skate really hard. Yeah. Now

sometimes you get caught up in the middle. All right. Now that I got the 40,000 view of this debate that I got in. Yeah. I'll go with speed. Well, this was, it took a guy like Galt Galt. There's a show of how cool it is to be able to run fast on a track. What did you do that? Oh, the debate is just six, seven is so fucking fast. We should do an old debate series in the summer. Just bring up old debates and don't tell us which side we're on and see how. Because like you just get caught

up. It's like he says one thing. I think both of us were like, figure skating, bro. That's the same strong figure skating back here. Yeah. Okay. I think I was saying like I would like to be able to skate for hockey. Yeah. But then we were, I can't remember. We kept on putting qualifiers on Hank side, but not on ours. We're like, you can't just run down the street. You have to do it on a track. But if you're, if you're a great figure skater, you could use that skill in a hockey game.

“Yeah. That's what I was saying. I think we just said that figure skating is more fun than running.”

Okay. Yeah. We can move on from that debate. I think I've got to agree to do it. I take it back. I Speed is fun. Elite balance beat speed. 19. 0.67 seconds. And you same bullet didn't do that to lose 21 years old. That's correct. Yeah. He might be. What can he do in the hundred though? That's where we really start to respect speed is a hundred yard dash. Yeah. That's blinding speed. Yeah. So if you can, if you can beat you saying in the, in the hundred, then I'm on board.

Yeah. Didn't look. The raised didn't look as you same bolty. Maybe just because the guy that

came in second also was flying and he's a white guy. But I'm excited. I'm now excited to see

I'm excited to follow Galk out his career, just great name. Yeah. Full throw. I was right. I was going to put Gaut on my cool throw. But I did read that his dad is thinking about changing the pronunciation of their, their name back to what it used to be, which is Gwatt. Gwatt? Yeah. That's the original. It's Gwatt. Gwatt. Gwatt. But I don't know. I feel like Galk out now everybody knows Galk out. You can't take it away, but he's like, I'd prefer that my son not

have a name that is also the name of the disease. But that's fine. A lot of that now you know how Corona feels. Yeah. Right. A lot of cool people have Galk, Paul Bisonette. Yeah. Barch. Large. Large. Yeah. Deutsch. Yep. Deutsch has a name? Yeah. How do you get Gaut again?

“There's E too much steak. It's like steak, red wine, alcohol, the disease of kings. Yeah. That's what”

they used to call it. And then my cool throne is Diego Pavia. Getting ready for the draft. I,

and, you know, obviously followed him last year. I did have the outside view that he was basically

just Johnny Mansell 2.0. The stuff he did. The Heisman ceremonies. Yeah. Very flashy. He's fucking hanging out with a plenty balls all the time. It's like this guy. It's not a serious person. It was my take on him. Uh-huh. And then I watched the full Grootin QB camp, like YouTube hour walk sat down and did with him. I'm in love with Diego Pavia. He's got it. It's head on the shoulders to say the least. Like he's, he's a true underdog story. I like that. I like that. He's a great like

you know, New Mexico tech like military school or whatever. Yeah. Dominated there. Dominated there. Dominated in Mexico. Dominated in Vanderfield. Yeah. It's a great story. And he, he's a dog. Grootin was talking about it. He's like, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to say a name, take some help. Like, what do you think about that? He's like, I would love that. Like, just get him on a team and he's going to, he's going to do some shit. Yeah. He's going to do some

shit. I'm all in on Diego Pavia. I would love to see him in New England. And I just, I've never done

a 180 more. I don't think ever. Like, I was just going to be like, it was going to hate this guy.

“That's what I was thinking. And then it's like, no, Grootin, like, he fucking won't. It was the”

for good reason. It was the post-highest man that had heard him. Yeah. The, the high has been losing the high has been being like, fuck, the high has been voters like, come on, dude. And then I put my body balls, like, one of my favorite people. But when it's like he's, you know, no, Diego Pavia is an absolute dog. And he is like, the definition of a winner. Because he didn't go to any, like, and he's going to crazy awesome football factories. But he won everywhere he went. He was

a negative four star recruit. Yeah. I didn't even know that was the thing. Yeah. What do you mean? That proves like, were you, you know, what? Let's start two stars. And I don't know if he was joking or if that's the thing, he goes negative four. Yeah. I think that's probably probably a joke. But he was he has zero stars. He had negative four. Zero offers like nothing. Cheese. All right. Well, Hank, you're a traffic. I love this. If Hank doesn't dive in it, I'm not. What position would you

want to play New England? Anything. So classic hot seed trick, me. No. Oh, taste him Hill. Like, taste him Hill and Drew Breeze worked great together. Okay. It's like you get him in for for packages. And then it's like, when when he comes on the field, you get excited. When his package be like, get the ball on his hands to run. Sometimes, maps may be run. It's like you sometimes

throw sometimes run. You never know what he's going to do. Yeah. It's kind of like, why do

version of wild cat. Get him in the slot. Whatever. We flicker our little short, but that doesn't matter. Did they bring up his size? Yeah. What do you say? He was just like, I've been I've been short my whole life and I've played against guys that were taller to love them. That's good answer. It's good answer. It is what it is. Yeah. Okay. You know, good hot seed rule thrown. Does that

“you get, should you get unfairly judged because you're short? I know, but I think I should be fairly”

judged because I'm short. Is that make sense? You get like if I had again. Yeah, Hank asked me if I should be unfairly judged because I'm short. Like, should you get written off as a podcast or because you're just a little guy? No. No, because I can see over my laptop just fine. So that's

good. But like if I was playing basketball, I would probably not draft myself early. What about football?

If I'm playing football, depends on the position. Now if you're talking about doing like some sort of wild wild Diego package. Yeah. Then yeah, maybe you're like Darren Sproul's great running back. He'd behind his offensive line. Scat back. Scat back. Yeah. So I'm not going to unfairly judge him. Hey, we're all the same. We're all the same height laying down. You know, I'm saying. Yep. I'm going to judge him a little, but I think he's a really good player. But I do, I do think that

height matters for quarterbacks. But I, again, I think he's a good player. Hight does matter. Right. But I don't care anymore. Okay. Okay. That's fair. I don't think he's going to, I don't think he's going to, I don't think he's going to, he's like not a top draft, but it's like he's a guy. Yeah, he's a utility. You want him in the picture? Everything. I would, him being a backup would, you could do a lot worse than that because he does have that, this is going to sound like a disc,

but I'm using it as a compliment. He has that backup. I can go win a game type of energy.

“Does he have too much of that to be backup? Does he have too much dog as a backup course?”

Honestly, he probably got to put a little bit of his dog down. Put a leash on. Yeah. Muzzle. Yeah, just keep him inside. You want to con toy? Yeah. Give his dog a con toy and let him just go. Just like when you go into that quarterback meeting room, cover the ball and peanut butter and just let him sit in the corner, licking it. Look. Wow. Yeah. Okay. PFT, your hot sea quilt. Good job, Hank. Very good job, man. Good job, man. My hot seat is Harambe. Oh, because we got, there's another

new gorilla on the block. Happy birthday to the world's oldest gorilla today. Fatu. Fatu. She just turned 69. Whoa. And she's in captivity right now in Berlin. She's like the nicest gorilla ever apparently. People love it. Yeah. She's in captivity in Berlin. I got a question. What do you mean captivity, Hank? What do you mean captivity? She what she lives in a zoo. I got a question. Yep. What's going on with this this war? The apes are warring. Oh, civil war amongst the apes. Yeah.

How was getting the video of that? It's been going on for like 15 years. Who's getting the video? I don't know. How am I seeing like, like, these apes, like running at each other and fighting like their two rival Russian gang. You know how the Russian gangs with like a hundred dudes versus a hundred

that war has been going on for 15 years. They forgot what they're fighting about. They're just pissed.

Yeah, they're just pissed. It's like we've always been at war with East Asia and then they just

just run at each other and kill each other. Do you guys respect to them? Do you guys want to know a fun animal fact I learned? Yeah. Do you know that Orcas, all the Orcas, like, they're in different pods and they all eat one thing and they don't overlap. Isn't that crazy? The Jack Spratt situation. So there's like one pot of Orcas that only eat salmon and one pot of Orcas that only eat, you know, seals and none of them eat humans. No, there's no recorded footage of Orca trying to eat a

human because they just don't and they just train themselves. Why not? Yeah. Because they only eat the one thing and they don't go out of it. Like they won't go a salmon eating Orca again. This is also something I read on Twitter. So might not be true. A salmon eating Orca will not go and eat a seal even

“if they're dying of hunger. Really? They won't go across. No. It's crazy. Can we the the screen?”

Can you change it? So I think he's searching stuff and we can't see it. We have a beautiful setting.

AI is beautiful. Yes, it is true that Orca pods have unique specialized diets passed down through generations. Hey, different pods often focus on specific prey such as salmon, seal or sharks and make completely ignore other potential food sources. That's kind of cool because it's like the ocean provides enough food for all of us. And they they were just acting each other's turf. They stick to sports. Right. Yeah. They said that they wouldn't what happens when

one pod started eating humans. Well, they're not being robbed. That's going to be an issue. And I would have to take that pod out expeditions. But they said they saw they documented a pod that was that was dying of hunger because like the salmon population was low and they would they wouldn't eat the seals. Yeah, but that's that's a it's a very cool thing that the whales do that. Yeah, they're like we can all survive. This is the other thing I learned as soon as you take them out

and you put them in sea world, they will eat humans. Because now they're taking away from their family. They don't live by the rules of the road. It gets a angry. They don't eat the human. That was the kill is killing. Yeah, they that's just their big foot brought them all the way down. Yeah, they drown. They send a message. They kill for fun. Dude, Orca's. I didn't know Orca's had it like that.

“I respect the fuck out. Orca's a great news. No. What? They don't kill humans. What are you talking about?”

Orca's are awesome. Apex predators. Hey, they fuck up someone as fuck. They should be all right. We need to get, you know what we need to be there again. I ask again if you are starting a new sports franchise. Have the uniforms look like Orca whales. Yeah. Like the Orca's is a fucking badass name. I'm going to say right now. I'm going to say right now. Yeah, but I mean like a real sports team. I know. Yeah, we need what we need to do. I'll text Malosec right now. We need to get

grudin to do a QB camp with an Orca and then Hank will all of a sudden be like these things are awesome. Now, could you change the pace? Yeah. Orca's are evil as fuck. They're not. I just told you they don't eat humans bro. What are you saying? They're evil. They are evil. Telecom. That is one that we put in a jail, but then that fucked up the entire Orca ecosystem. No, they don't. No, he stayed in the jail. No, dude. He died. Hank. What are you talking about? We took an

orca prisoner and we tortured it for decades and it killed a couple guys. And now you're like

“all Orca's orca's or evil. It's kind of similar to a plan. Wait, what are you talking about telecom?”

Didn't telecom die in captivity? But it had children. Okay, and there's a children became evil. No, no, no, no, no, no. They put them out there. Yeah, there's like a, are you sure? I believe so. Like the pyramid or whatever. Yeah. The coaching tree. Telecom does have a coaching tree. And it's all. It's bad news. Yeah, really? Like it's coaching tree are, are a lot of violent. Orca's flag. It's a, it's a, it's a documentary. I don't want to get, but it's fucking, but again,

like, telecom's, yeah, it, it, it spawned a bunch of pissed off workers, but like, with the reason, right? But again, it's human's fault, but it's like, it's basically, Hank, you watch a lot of game of thrones. Is it, is it, is it, you watch a lot of game of thrones? Is it unusual for like the, children and grandchildren of a, a certain family like the Baratheons to hate the Lannisters and shit like that? Yeah, they're just trying to get justice. Yeah. If we made you do handstands and

pushups for your dinner for two decades, you'd be pissed him. Oh, great. Yeah. It's get as as fault, but like, Orca's are bad news. No, they are. No, they're great. I'm telling you,

they live, they live by a code that is so strict. They would never, I could drop you in the

ocean right now in front of an entire pack of workers. They wouldn't touch you, dude. I disagree. They'd actually, they'd probably form a raft and bring you back to the land. No, they wouldn't, 'cause you're not salmon. Yeah. Or see. It was bump you up. Yeah, it's just the telecom. No, it had, it had a, it had a, some offspring that it said, or bad news. As of 2022, four humans have

telecom. Yeah, but it's, it's spawn. Telecom's children. But where are they?

“Telecom's children are out in the wild? Who do you spawn with? It might be a little unfair,”

too, like, look sideways at, at the children of telecom. Be like, you're, you're probably like, your old man. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's got a lot. How many kids have? He's telecom, the one that, the gymers, they tried to save? No, that's a different one that he tried to fly across the country. He, he would have done it, too. If it wasn't for all the worker haters, like, Hank, it is fun stuff. They put these guys in, like, these guys are smart. They put them in a fucking jail cell.

Yeah. It's messed up. We could learn a lot from, from, from, workers. Oh, shit. Hank has a

telecom. 21. Yeah. Three. Wait, what is this put? Is it all deaths? No. So they're still alive.

But they didn't kill anyone. You just hate, you just hate the kids because the telecom was arrested. Telecom's offspring have shown that the aggressive instincts of transient workers have passed down through generations. You know what this is? You know, this is big cat. This is Kim Jong-Hank. This is what they do in North Korea. You screw up and then they take three generations of your family, lock them in a work camp. This is fucked up, Hank. This is fucked up, dude.

I said, I'm on, get here. What are we on? I'm on teamwork. I was just saying, uh, happy birthday, two, for two. Oh, yes. The 69 year old gorilla, the gorilla. Okay. She seems like a real sweetheart. So, uh, shout out to her. For two. Then my cool throne is true love. Because the Dallas wings drafted. Yes. As he fud, and she was a player at Yukon. She was page beckers girlfriend. Yes. He is page beckers girlfriend. Yep. So now two number one picks, living together, working together

in Dallas. This is, it's so funny whenever this happens in the W&BA. I, so we had this debate on

“wake up first of all, which I think it's bad. I do too. Yeah. I don't know why you'd want to work”

every day with your partner, especially in a locker room setting too. Like that's, that's a part that makes it a little weird. Sometimes you want to go home after a long day at work and you get to talk to your spouse about, uh, here's something that happened at work today that you don't know about. Right. I think it's good in the fact that, like, good for their relationship, they get to live together and don't have to, you know, travel to see each other all the time. But bad in the fact that

there's being a rookie in the W&BA and then also having to navigate, oh, you're, the franchise player, you're dating the franchise player and the locker room and all that stuff. Did you also see the backfire that the W&BA commissioner had? Yeah. When she, well, it was a backfire to her backfire. She tried, she tried, she tried to backfire it on the reporter, right. Because the reporter asked her about her job security. Yep. And then she said, I'd like to know if you would ask that same

question of a man. And everyone was like, yeah, yeah, all the time. Because you stink at your job. Every, every time a man sucks at their job, coach, commissioner, whatever, they get asked that. Yeah, they weren't asking you to smile more while you suck at your job. They were just saying,

“hey, you're terrible at running this league. Yeah. Um, yeah, I think it's, I think it's, uh,”

nice story for them. They're probably happy right now that, uh, that they get to live in the same city and work for the same team. I think it's going to be a nightmare on the team. Agreed. I think it's going to be bad news on the team. Agreed. Also, if you're page, you probably don't mind looking at some of the ladies on the team every now and again. Now you can't do that anymore. Nope. I think it's, I think it's bad news. I mean, hey, what are, how are things going to work out with you and your

boyfriend Diego Pavia both rooting for the Patriots? Well, you're going to be upset at each other all the time. What? Okay, I was just making fun of you. I can do it, go Pavia. Uh, yeah, I also just don't, like, uh, as you thought, because I bet on her in the final four and she was so bad. She played really bad. And that's all it takes. That'll take that easy. Yeah, but I think it's a good story. I think it'll be

bad. And I like page buckets. She's awesome. Uh, okay. My hot seat is, I have two. Uh, the first is

Todd Haley. Okay. Have you guys seen a picture, Todd Haley? Uh, I can't say that I have the last six months. So Todd Haley is a coach on the aviators. Is that a team name? Yeah. Columbus, maybe coach. Go to my Twitter. Uh, backs. He's on, yeah, he's, he's a coach in one of the leaves. That's Todd Haley right now. Look at this guy. Dude, his hair is banging. He's got a little robber on him. Yeah. I, I was shocked when I saw that was Todd Haley. So yeah, Todd Haley, he used to, Todd Haley used to be kind of like a

sex figure, you know? I still is. Yeah. You mean used to be? Yeah. Look at that dude. But he, he is, he's different. He, Todd Haley, he's out there. I don't really know what else to say. It looks good.

in the UFO? No. Over the weekend. I think it's like if you get two penalties on a conversion in overtime or something, it counts as a, it counts as a score. Yeah. And so they, yeah, the ref's just called conversion good. There's a walkoff. That's awesome. Yeah. Okay. Then my other hot seat is AI videos. Uh, did you guys happen to see the AI video of Roy McRoy getting his green jacket

“then Tiger Woods driving a Range Rover up the 18th Fairway and then crashing it? Is that real?”

Was that a real video? It was actually AI. Okay. And for a second there, it looked real. I saw a lot

of those on the first T. It was like now driving, yeah, Jack Nicklaus and then Tiger Woods driving a view. Look. So yeah. Yeah. I bring it up because J Williams has decided to take a stand finally with AI. Okay. God. We were waiting for Jay Williams. What? Not our Jay Williams. Jay Williams, too. He, we were all waiting for him to finally pick aside. He, he has he said, mocking Tiger Woods with AI isn't entertainment. It's exploitation adds stolen PGA and CBS footage and it becomes theft.

That's a real man with real kids and real family platforms to take it down now. Okay. Thank you, Jay Williams. Uh, okay. How's that the most narky tweet of all time be like, oh, and also CBS? Why

a PGA? Why is this the one that was. I don't know. It's crazy. But that now, Jay Williams,

he's just going to get AIed all the time. Well, it's a Jay Williams credit. This might not have been Jay Williams. This might be the guy that hacks into his account once every like four years into each month of a doka and and tweet something really embarrassing. Yeah. And then he has to like get back into his account afterwards. Wow. I can't believe that's a tiger runs away. He's wearing his Sunday red. For me, it's more about stealing the intellectual property of CBS

sports. Yeah. That's the real crime. Listen, I'm not a big fan of AI, but when it's so blatantly AI, who the fuck cares? You know what I mean? Yeah. It is kind of classless of tiger to upstage

“roaring like that. Well, drinking whiskey? Yeah. That's how we don't say AI. Well, he wasn't drinking.”

Blue triple zero. Yep. All right. And then my cool throne. I also had love. So it's shout out to Paige Becker's and Azifud. Also cool throne. Us sabers. See what they did to Whitney. What they did. Put it on a billboard. Mm-hmm. Was that a sea? Let me see. Let me see. See zero points zero percent change. The buffalo makes the playhouse. Oh, no. It's Whitney's face. This face on it. Oh, no. Wait. You can't have that happen. You know, he got to do.

He's got to just put on a billboard and be like, remember when biz said he was going to get a circumcision and didn't. Mm-hmm. Buffalo is not making the playhouse. Zero point zero zero zero zero zero zero zero percent. That's very funny. Hey, they're talking about wit, right? Mm-hmm. The wit lives rent free. That's free. Is this a real billboard? Yeah. I think it's one of those ones that they can digitally change constantly. Oh, man. That's awesome. No, this podcast and space we are on the cool throne.

So NASA ran a study on what it takes to be a good astronaut. Do you guys have

“an idea of what the one trait that they said was actually like extremely important. Being able to sit”

for long periods of time. Nope. Okay. Hank? Any idea? No. podcast and a sense of humor. Okay.

How crazy is that? So this was a study perhaps the most important insight NASA has

gleaned from studying team dynamics in space and on earth is the preciousness of one trait in particular a sense of humor. Studies accrues overwhelming at the South Pole show that a overwintering at the South Pole show that a confined group needs people to fulfill various roles, including leader, storyteller, and social secretary, but the most important task by far is that of the clown. A person who's funny and also wise enough to understand each member of the group

and diffuse tensions, laughter as much as courage will sustain astronauts under long quest to Mars. You just need a fucking locker room. You need a good hang. Yeah. Yeah. That's all this is. This is just you need that going back to like talking about a backup. You need a backup quarterback's personality. Sick. We could be astronauts. Unless you don't think we're funny. Which. Yeah. Fair enough. Who'd think that too. I bet the tennis podcast could go to Jupiter. Absolutely. Zach,

hot sequel throne. Uh, we're back. We're back with beef and these female podcast streets in my hot seat. Yeah. That's all. That looks this. Double Alex. The girls are fighting. Go ahead. One with an eye, one with an E. Difference spelling. But they're definitely beef and all right. So who's side are we on?

Oh, I've got no clue about that. But uh, I don't even have, I might be too early to pick a side

“because they're just getting past progressive right now. So I'm going to go with Alex. My,”

my understanding is the, is the, is the fight is about the fact that they are going to have a fight. But no one's talking about what they're fighting about. It's like ramping up for the fight. Like so the Hobbit as Earl's probably got dropped off the unwell network last year and then she got picked up by Brady. And then now, by the Brady network. Yeah. Let's go with she graduated. Pick that up. Brady, and uh, they're just beefing over like passive aggressive tweets and likes. But then Alex Cooper's

coming back over top like, hey, listen, girl, you better get to the point. What's going on here. Tell the truth or nothing. And I'm just kind of excited to see what this goes. Yeah. I kind of want to get it right. Hank, what do you like? I, we need Alex, Alex are all the drop. And then we can make a decision, which if you're listening this podcast on Wednesday and Alex Earl has not dropped,

“then Cooper won. Oh, you're giving, you should tweet that right now. You should tweet at Alex”

her and be like, you have 24 hours. Well, no. If you do not drop in 24 hours, Alex Cooper made a video being like, spill. Right. Like spill the tape forward in Alex Earl come, commented and said, okay, on it. This was on Monday. So if you basically had called out if I'm like PFT fucking come at me, bro, and you say, I'm on it. And it takes you two full days like, yeah, the you, I've already won. That's short sighted though, because we remember we had that exact same conversation like a year and

half ago. And we're like, Kendrick Lamar is probably never going to come out with another song again.

And then he had like three in a row that he dropped. You guys modify us question. Yeah, please. We've done a bet. I, I, I know, no, I, I have no idea what's going on in this fight. I have no idea what they're fighting about. Is it IP? All right. So here's what you want to go. You want to go? I, I watch, I watched her video and days video. Alex Cooper. I'm an expert. Left bar so we'll start to unwell network a podcasting brand, whatever media. She's a mega star. Alex Earl was already a

huge the biggest number one TikTok or going last year. She had a home podcast. She signed to the unwell network. So Alex now Alex Earl's podcast got signed to the unwell network. There was apparently infighting that happened. No one knows what happened. But it was a short lived stint on the unwell

network. She left never really discussed. And then recently, like she would repose vague things,

kind of talking shit, very passive aggressive about Alex Cooper. Yeah. Then over the weekend, she reposted a video from a TikTok or calling Alex Cooper a ambulance chaser in basically telling her followers why Alex Cooper was bad news. That was the, that's a bar shot. Yeah. That's a bar shot across the back. She's an ambulance chaser, but for trauma. Yeah. Like if you go through a bad breakup, Alex Cooper will be calling you in the next couple days to talk to you. Yeah. Alex Earl

reposted that which then basically forced Alex Cooper's hand to be like what like, if you've got it,

“if you want to talk shit, say it to my face, the your own social media. Could Alex Earl just drop a”

video just be like, I'm hotter than you. I don't think that. I don't, I don't think so. Oh, she'd get my vote. But then Alex Cooper would just do a podcast about how she got, she got bullied. And Alex Cooper could then be like, I'm richer than you. Yeah. Yeah, but a hotness is a pretty big trump card. I think yes, but she could also make a lot of money. She's younger, right? Alex Earl's younger considerably. Yeah. National sports podcast. We could use this moment to remind

everybody that Alex Cooper might not exist in the same way that she does now, where it not for Tom Lay. True. Super producer here. He was her producer on Colorado, and him, and in Moose wrote like most of their episodes. Word for word bar for bar just got completely washed out of the the history that Alex has written. And Jeff Donny and Jeff Donny. Alex Cooper also wants to tell me I had a tiny dick and she wasn't wrong. She wants tiny dick energy. She didn't see my dick. She wants

to tell me I had a huge dick and she was wrong. She was probably more wrong about me. So yeah,

that's our Alex Cooper talk. I've never met Alex Earl. Yeah, they'll seem nice. Yeah, they'll see

our good hands get together and have fun. Who are you picking? In, if they're going to combat or just in the hotness, whatever you want. I would say Alex Cooper probably clears. Okay, in all facets. Yeah, all facets. Wow. Girl boss. Yeah, girl boss. Yeah. Okay. Well, we, that was good national sports podcast. What's your cool throw? My, my cool throw in this week is going to be the Artemis two recovery team. Did you guys see the video from the Pacific Ocean? Yes. That was awesome.

You see this. I didn't think they really went, but after I saw that video, I think they went. I was

poo poing space because I do want to go to Mars. I do want to go to moon watching this video and being like holy shit. These people are sitting on a boat in like two days ago. They were so far away. It's pretty awesome. I also think that getting a hatch opened on you would be one of the all-time most relieving feelings. Apparently the hatch on Apollo 11, they smelled so bad in there. They'd like to crew through up everywhere and couldn't, couldn't, it was like the most disgusting.

I know it's smoke crazy in there. Yeah. I guess they figured that out. Like one of those trees. Yeah. No, I mean, it does seem like a really nice way to come back home. Also, don't you grow when you're up in space? I feel like you, you get a little bit taller.

“Oh, I think your vertebrae is due because you're really compressed here on earth.”

The gravity's got to like kind of just like open you up a little bit. Your spine can compresses. So maybe pre-draft the Eagle Pavia go up to space for a little bit. Was the helicopter necessary? It feels like they could have just gone boat to boat. Helicopter might have been artistry. Should I go grab the bullet? Right. Yeah. That was a boat to boat. Was it not? Hmm. Like they had a boat go meet them at the pod and then helicopter them to the other boat.

You guys, if you have all these cool toys, you want them. There's a boat right there. Could have just walked on the boat. Yeah. I think it's uh, it was cool seeing the stuff that they filmed from outer space to. Yeah. And for all the people, I know I said this, maybe last week on the pod that I feel bad for, for like flat earthers because there was just so much content that came out of the earth not being flat. I've kind of done a 180 on that. I think that there's,

there's so much content that came out there. There's a whole bunch of new lore. Yeah. Like the flat earthers have so much material to work with right now and stuff to pick through with the

“fine tooth comb that I think they're probably having the time of their lives. Oh, definitely. Yeah.”

Flat earthers stay under turn. Yeah. I don't think any, I think that's the number one sign of being a flat earther is no new evidence will will get you off of what you will believe. They got to explain in Artica first. Yeah. Good point. True. It's kind of like skip bailis in LeBron. Yeah.

It's like you're never going to stop fucking that chicken. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Okay.

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want to just start with something special. We've never done this before, but we did a straw pole.

We did a voting before you joined us today. And you have one. Oh, let me read this. The results of the poll. Oh, yeah. There it is. Okay. You are officially the first ever pardon my take coach of the year. Congratulations. Congratulations. It's a real award. Yeah. It's a hundred percent real award. First ever, do you accept? It's the first ever PMT coach of the year. Yep, correct. Sure is. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, except it. All right. Great. That's awesome. Hell yeah.

You're calling it the most prestigious coach of the word in history. Yeah. I mean, you know, this morning I was going through the season and and I was looking at, you know, what we talked about on media day and our goals and and this was at the top of the list. And so like I can only think the people at PMT and you know, I don't know what I'm going to do from here because now that I got this, my life goals have been achieved. Yeah. And now I just have a sense of emptiness.

all? They're probably going to be upset when they find out that you didn't thank them when you won PMT coach of the year. I mean, this point is going up, as soon as you walk into the outback center, it's going up right right into front, moving all of reds, moving all of reds awards. Yep, and we're part of this one right there. That was a few of coach of Kojo Zula, like his press conference before round one, he's getting, he's a little like sad and reporters like what's up, and he's like,

I just got nothing left to achieve. Like I love the hurt, but I won PMT coach the year. I don't even know where I go from here the rest of the day. I would love to see one person win in a ward and just say that like they win an Oscar for best act and they're like, yeah, that's it. I mean, I don't know what. Yeah, I'm done here. Thank you guys. You know what? I'll give you something to look forward to every year in July. We do the take awards. You could still win a

Italian coach of the year. Oh, yeah. So that one's still hanging out there. We've got some competition

“to come with. To me, you have to like, that one's got to come with I probably are going to”

suit. Yeah, I'm on my suit. Yeah, I got to take it to another level if I'm up for that one. Yeah, I mean, you also, you're nominated this year, and he's going to be tough to beat. Petino's nominated CalParis, nominated. Also we have the taking for most likely to be choked out of the year. It's you versus Zuckerberg. That's going to be tight. Like there's a lot of stuff still that you can win.

Where is, first of all, Italian coach of the year, that's tough. I don't know if I could pull off

the white suit. Slick Rick is he takes it to another level. Yeah, he does. He's nice. Yeah. I think he's the, he, I mean, he's the don. He's a grandfather of it all. So I'll wait my turn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We, we, we guess, where is, where is Zuckerberg and his training? You think? I don't know. I think he's one of those guys. He has to register his arms as lethal weapons. He can't touch anybody in public or else he can get arrested. Yeah. Did you see that? Do you remember the story that

came out where he, he had to like, I think it was like the New York Times is like just just so everyone's clear. He did not get choked out. Yeah. Like he had, he had to, he had to clarify. It's like, well, clearly you got choked out, dude. If you had to, if you had to actually put this out there saying, hey, stop, stop saying I got choked out. I didn't get choked out. I got choked out twice yesterday morning before the game. So, I mean, that's part for the course. Yeah. This is really, really, so I know we've

talked to you in the past about, you know, like some of the jujitsu that you do and, and like how it teaches you to like unlock a different level. How do you go back after you get choked out once? How do you say, you know what? That's not enough. I want to get choked out again before the game. I mean, I think it's just like, it's just, it's a, it's a, it simulates the playoffs. It's similar to regular season. It simulates competition. Like, you know, if you're going to go, you know,

“and train and fight, like you have to, when you're going after something, you know,”

greatness and success and winning, you have to be able to accept the other side of that, which is losing, getting choked out. And it's like, to me, it's more about who you are when you get choked out. Like, you know, do you like, just curl up into a ball and you know, start bitching and crying about it and like, quit that round or you're like, no, like, I actually want more of that. And I'm going to try to get to another level and, and you have to take on, you know, those risks. So to me, it's the

best simulation of the playoffs is everybody always focuses on like the goal, the, the journey and

going after success. But when you want to go after something, if you're not aware, and can't surrender to the fact that you could fail at it, then I don't, I don't think you're really on the journey, you know? Yeah. No, yeah. I mean, that's, that's why I, yesterday's game, I needed to be at a different Minecraft, like, you know, I credit our guys. Those guys that play yesterday, it was one of the most fun games I've ever coached. And I love how the guys brought the mindset that they've brought, but like,

I needed to enter the garden, you know, in a different mindset. So that I had to, that had to happen yesterday. So that's really, yeah. But I was going to ask about that game because you, you're playing in a game game 82, nothing to play for. You're locked in your seed. It's, it's a lot of the backup guys. And you were, you got, they played their asses off. And they beat a team that actually had something to lose. Like, the magic did lose out on having a home playing game and

all that stuff. Was it, like, going into it? Was it even, it just never even cross your mind that

we're like, we don't do this tanking stuff. We're just going as hard as we can, but trying to win this game. I never crossed my mind. I thought it was, I thought, like, that type of mindset could be disrespectful to the players and disrespectful to the staff. I think, you know, what we're trying to create. And I really think yesterday was a culmination of like the identity of this team and who these guys are as players is like whoever's playing, we have to go out there with a chance to win.

And for some of the guys on the roster, they're looking for opportunities to prove that they can impact winning and that all the work they do when no one's watching is getting better. And I think it's the same for, like, our assistants and our player development staff. Like, these guys put in more time when no one's watching on getting players better. If you don't treat yesterday

“as the absolute, most important game, I think you're doing a disservice to the, to the players.”

You're doing a disservice to the process of, like, main, our development team, the process of the two way, you know, our two ways, the process of our player development guys. You're just doing a disservice to it. So to me approach that game as, like, we have a chance to win

to those guys as a credit to our staff. And we got to take that momentum of, like, our togetherness and get ready for the playoffs. It kind of was a perfect, like, microcosm for your season and I want to go back to the beginning of the season to ask you if there was a moment that maybe you had a light bulb moment with the team or kind of kicked it, kicked their ass and been, like,

“hey, we're better than this because starting the season, I think a lot of people were like,”

hey, this looks like it might just be bad this year because Tatham's not playing and you start on three and you start kind of, like, puddling around, you know, 500 for the first month or so. And then you guys kicked it into overtime and started ripping off wins. You're like, oh, no, this team is still really good. Was there that moment, a practice, a game where you're like, hey, what are we doing? Just because Tatham's not doesn't mean you guys still aren't a really good team.

You know, I think I think one, we got off, I never, you know, the first 20 games are really

your, your, your testament. And I think, you know, one, your record, it may not be a reflection of the, the team that you're about to become, you know, and so I loved how we approach training camp. I think, you know, our guys came back hungry. I think Jalen came back with a chip on her shoulder. I think we all came back with an understanding of, like, we're going after this, we're going to go try to be the best that we could be. So I was very confident in training camp.

“But I think a little, you know, I think the season gives you like small gut check moments.”

We were all in three and sitting in that locker room in New Orleans of, like, this is a must-win game. Like, and that was a small gut check moment for us, you know, as like, hey, like, we're all in three. We've shown signs of what we can become. But at the end of the day, this isn't good enough. And we got to make a decision on, like, what we want to be. And so we were sitting in the locker room together in New Orleans, and like, this is a must-win game. And, you know, we have to learn how to take it to a

different level. And I thought the guys did that. And even when we were, you know, 500, we were still showing signs of, like, this is who we're going to become. And, you know, it's a credit to the guys. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, uh, it really is because I think a lot of people saw, you know, the injury

and they thought this year might be, might be a year that you would punt. I never thought that the Celtics

in New York, in particular, would ever, would ever punt on the season. But has it surprised you, in terms of Tatum's health, how quickly that turned around? Like, we think of an Achilles as being, you know, a year long, maybe two-year long injury to come back from, um, at what point did you think it was realistic that he would make it back? Well, it's two things. One, like, for, uh, the team coming in, um, it does not, you know, I can't say that, like, the expectation is to go 56 and 26 or

whatever every year. But the process of how we played and who we became as a team did not surprise me one bit, uh, because of the people that we have, like, the character, the competitive character that we have in our players, uh, you know, with Jane and with Derek, with Peyton, with Sam, with Neemey, like, we've had guys that have impacted winning and, like, care about winning. And I thought, you know, JB helped us get off to a great start, just by taking this opportunity as a chip

on a shoulder and like, he's at his best when he's doing that, right? And for me, I knew we were going to, uh, you know, go after this thing the day, uh, J.T. decided to get surgery. I was like, oh, he's serious. Like, I don't think you can, uh, you know, talk about his mental toughness enough of, like, some guys waited two weeks, some guys waited 10 days, like he waited 18 hours. And so I knew at that point, um, you know, I knew that we were going to, uh, just continue to chip away at that and,

and kind of the journey that he went on, uh, and then as we started to get closer, you know, we were really growing as a team and it's like, hey, you know, here's where we're at as a team, we can go after this thing, uh, and then we get whole and we develop our identity and, you know, I think we have a chance. So again, it was, everybody had to take it to a different level, mentally. Yeah, I'm just curious, if that was like a closely guarded secret that he was going to

come back. As I remember, there would be videos of him, like, in the gym that would come out every week. It could be, you know, it started to speculate on how good he looked, how healthy you looked. Was that something that you guys tried to keep as close to the vests as possible? No, you just, we just didn't know. I mean, you, like, you can say, like, you know, in your heart or in your mind, you have an idea, but you still don't know, because obviously you're doing with

something that, uh, is very complex and it's an injury that can happen. Not only physical, but like,

“mental emotional and, and things that you have to get through. So like, we didn't, we, like,”

in the bottom bottom of our heart, we knew, but you have the end of the day, like you never want to

take a day for granted or you never want to take, uh, rehab for granted, the process of coming back, because it's complex and there's a lot that goes into it. Yeah. Did you, the quote, uh, when they, you know, I'm sure wasn't fun going to the press conferences every day and having people ask you over and over, like, what's going on with Jason Tatum, what's going on with Jason Tatum, was the quote that you dropped when you said, I might not be alive. I go to bed,

questionable, and I wake up probable. Was that off the cuff, or were you, do you say that all until you say it to your kids? I said, I mean, there's a lot of, uh, I mean, there's a lot of spiritual context to that. And I kind of, we talk about that every day with our family and our kids. And I think,

end of the day, like, you just can't assume that you can't take life for granted, you can't take stuff for granted. You just can't assume that, like, you're going to be able to go after things, you're going to be able to achieve things. Like, you got to have the mentality and the presence of,

like, this is the present moment. Have gratitude and a perspective for it because you never know.

“And I quite honestly, uh, at that time, I was really thinking about that. And it was on my heart”

because one of my close friends, uh, who helped me get into coaching, uh, he was on a golf trip with this, with his son. And, um, he went to bed at 7 p.m. to get up for a, um, golf trip. And he never got back up. And so I was kind of like, one, I was talking to myself. I was, uh, kind of processing that. And, uh, you just can't take stuff for granted like that. So there was a lot more that went into it, but I thought it also applied to that. You just seen it us. Good job. Yeah. Yeah. You John

seen it us. What is that? Well, yeah, your quote was objectively very funny that you go to bed, doubtful and you wake up, probable. And then it turns out that there's a very deep, yeah, there's a super cool sad story behind you. And so now we can't make a joke about it. So John, you know, we famously had him on, uh, we've had him on a couple of times. Last time we had him on was like four or five years ago. And we asked him a question about he had, there was an internet rumor that he

died. And everyone utilized him for like a day. And it was, it was, and I asked him essentially like,

how awesome is that that you got to basically watch everyone talk about how great of a guy you are.

And he was like, I don't find it funny because I had a friend die last week. Like, that's not funny. And we're just like, OK. Well, that's it. Well, I mean, I mean, I guess we could kind of turn this, we could go full circle in a humorous thing. If people spend one second worried about the day that I'm not around anymore. Shame on them. Yeah. I do the opposite. I'm sending a second. I mean, you great guy. Yeah, after, okay, one second after that. It's like, I got a good segue here.

What was for lunch? Yeah. I got a good segue with the seat of thing. I don't think I've ever seen you happier than when you were at the WWE match. And you were fake hitting Dirk White in the face. I mean, that's it. Is that fair to say that that was that better than than winning an NBA title? I mean, to me, you know, everyone has a different love language. My love language is like violence.

“I'd never felt more connected to Derek. The only thing I regret was like, I like, I almost flipped them”

over the wall like into Michael Cole and the table. I thought we could have just sold it and took it further. Yeah. If it was the off season, I think we take that further. That was exactly my take when I saw it. I was like, I know the coach wishes he could be going harder at Derek White here. You also. So wait, were you big wrestling fan growing up? I wasn't. So like, you know, that was a cool moment because my dad took me to the Providence Civic Center for Monday night, Nitro. I was like

eight, nine years old and I cried the entire time because I was so scared sitting that close. And it was like different back then. Because I felt like it was like more violent. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It was like, like, let's Luger was like four feet for me. And I was like, this guy is massive. Yeah. And so like, it was a cool moment to take my kids there because, you know, my dad did that for me. And so I was, you know, a fan growing up. But um, that that what I was doing at Derek

is the ultimate sign of love. I mean, I love that. If we could do that to each other more,

“I think we'd all be nicer. I had a great group of you. We used stone cold or rock guy.”

I was a rock. That is me. That's okay. You know, remember, you don't remember like going to school and like, you know, people asking stuff and you just cut them off. Oh yeah. Yeah. I gave out so many stunners. I love stone cold. So cold was the best. Yeah, doing the people's elbow on a kid in the hallway. Yeah, it was very fun. Absolutely. Like, yes. Like in class, like in between classes, you're at Jim and like a guy is like you catch him sleeping. You hit him with a rock bottom. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Yeah. What did your teachers think about you? Did were you a good student? There's no way they liked me. To incense. There's no way they liked me. No, they couldn't have liked me. I think I could name every teacher in elementary school and middle school. And I take everyone. I can name also why they would be like, this guy is just like, okay, why am I putting

up at this kid? Yeah. I would never think of you as being a bad student. I feel like you're eager

to learn. Like you like to learn new things. You like to expand your horizons a little bit. I was honest. I was just like, constantly. I just couldn't sit still. So I was always just doing something ridiculous. Yeah. That's actually Hank. That's Hank is the exact same way. You guys piece of the pod. One guy that you've been learning from. This is a great transition. Uh, Pep Guardiola. We talked a little bit about them last year. Uh, but I think your friendship is

kind of grown over the years to the point where you're like adopting some of his soccer strategies for basketball. Can you just like talk a little bit about that and like how you've used some of

we've had some great transitions. Great transitions. Great transitions. That's what they say about

transition. We are. Yeah. And pro transition. The margins like we're winning on that right now

“transitioning from top into topic and we have a missed a beat. So I think I think you're learning”

from Pep as well. Yeah, we go. But I think I think the sports are very similar. You know, they're both free-flowing games. I mean, they're both, uh, you know, they're both games where like everybody in the field has to have an impact offensively and defensively. I think, you know, the more basketball is changing to reads and and the players are so smart and so skilled. Like everything is a read and everything is a transition, right? And, you know, he's taught me how, uh, you know,

offense can impact your defense, how defense can impact your offense, how to disguise your best players and and get them to do different things, whether it's cutting and, uh, screening and have them

hide and find them ways to get better. Like I think he's just, uh, his brain is tremendous at

that. And I think you're kind of seeing it. They got a chance, uh, to to win this year. So just his mind and how he thinks the game has allowed me to open on my mind and how I think basketball. And when I watch soccer, I kind of look at basketball and vice versa. Yeah. That's pretty cool.

“Talk about having your any year player start flopping. I mean, there was, uh, we had a couple”

good ones last night on a legal screen, as I'd say. Oh, yeah, uh, speaking of, did, how many times did you say a legal screen in that, in that one press cover? And also, are your kids of an age yet because I would imagine there's a little bit of spill over like if I were, if I were your son or daughter, I would just hit you with that when you was like, hey, go, time to go to bed and just hit me. No, no, dad's a legal screen. My wife is at her wits and in our household because she has three

kids, me and our two boys. And we are exactly the same. Like, if she's arguing with me, uh, oldest or our youngest, we have the same mannerisms, the same look, the same like, you know, passive aggressive, like, sarcastic. No, you're right. No, absolutely, I was wrong. Yeah. Uh, so she's, she's out of a wits and with the house. They take on my personality and, uh, that's not going well. Three little Joe Misulas. So, all right. Did that, you imagine that? Like,

you know, I can't. No, I can't. That's, you can't bless her. Do you think you could be married to yourself? Absolutely not. No. No, I'm not hard enough. No. No, my, my daughter, my middle child, my daughter, she's got like a little bit of my troll energy and it, that's like, it just won having that. I'm like, this is a lot. Like, she'll troll me back. I'm like, what the fuck, how did you, like, this is not right. You're four. How are, how are you trolling me? So, yeah, I,

three Joe Misulas in one house, the, uh, the illegal screen though, that, that was a great press conference. What happens afterwards when, like, your PR staff or, you know, your head or communication, do they say anything like, hey, uh, can we stop doing that? Or they're just like, you crushed it. And then you said a little spring 500. I'm a lost cause at this point. They, they just, they go, they go into every conference. Like, I, I just hope this guy makes it. That's great.

I'm a lost cause. The no one can help me. You can't save me. Yeah, I just point. Yeah, it was a great kind. You also have no idea, like, because I'll play it off. Like, they don't know what I'm thinking of what I'm going to do. And so they're like, they're on eggshells. Yeah.

“Yeah. You should, you should, you should kind of reverse it on them, keep them on their toes”

and some, and, like, some press conference just randomly just be the most, like, the nicest guy, most gregarious, give, like, the longest answers. Do, like, an hour press conference, thanking everyone. Just keep them on their toes. I know you have to. I do, I do a lot of that behind closed doors. Keep people on your toes. Like, like, like, I, you talk about, like, you have a little troll on you. I have a little, like, I'm just testing you mentally. Yeah. Yeah.

Just see if you can handle it. I like that. What, do you do that with your players? Just behind the scenes a little test here and there? They do it to me more. I would imagine. Yeah. Yeah. We, I, they, like, I think they like do it to me. After the, uh, the illegal screen press conference, I think that's all Hank said during part of my take. Anytime we'd ask him a question, no matter, it could have been about football, but he'd just be like illegal screen.

You're just just getting in line. Yeah. Well, I mean, the goal is to be, like, as creative as you can without getting fine. Yeah. That's cool. Have you thought about how can you, yeah, like, pick, how can you get your part? How can you get your point across? How can you be, how can you push the line in the button as far as possible without, you know, getting fine? That's the goal. Yeah. I would think, like, talking in Pig Latin or doing just the, uh, the copying game,

where you just repeat the questions back to the reporters. That might be, I'm not the one. I'm not the one staring at me. Yeah. That might be, that might be next on the list. I've got a game that we play with, uh, with every coach. Um, this is an anonymous MBA player said this. I'd like to hear your reaction. Um, we call it, uh, you, you're anonymous sources. Uh,

look at Joe Mozula. He had so many opportunities as season make excuses, but never did.

He realized what he had in his players. And everything about my next decision is based on winning. That's an anonymous player who might be looking for a new team next year. What would you think

uh, every player on our team. Um, I hope they say something like that. And I think in this world today, like, it's easy. I think coaches get, uh, you know, both too much credit and too much playing. And my

number one goal is to, to always highlight our players. You know, because even like yesterday,

somebody asked me a question of like, what does it say about you that your team was able to perform like this today? And it's like, it says nothing about me. Like, I didn't score one basket. I didn't, I didn't dribbled above to floor. I didn't get one stop. I didn't do anything. And, you know, the reason why I got into the MBA was to develop relationships with guys, you know, with with guys, you know, at different levels, uh, and to work together to bring the best out of each other.

“So, you know, when I hear a comment like that, I think that's that's what you're going towards”

in building a culture and building an environment. And, you know, anytime someone hears or thinks something like that, I want them to think of our guys. Because, uh, they're the ones that give me the opportunity to coach every day. They don't have to listen to me. They don't have to buy

in. They don't have to, we don't have to do this, uh, but they give me that gift. And, you know,

they go out there every day and compete. So, I'm grateful for the guys that we have. And then I hope every player that plays for the Celtics and play for us, uh, says that. Yeah. All right. Just so you know, the, the reason why coaches get so much of the blame is because we're really stupid. And we have to find things that we think we know, like, oh, he used the time out at the wrong time. Or he shouldn't have challenged that. Those type of things. That's where we can, we can be like,

yeah, coach so stupid for doing that. You know, it was crazy to go that. And when we win is when I feel like I make the most mistakes and it happened the other day, um, I forgot what game it was. But I kind of challenged too fast. And we ended up losing a challenge and a time out. And so like we were down time outs, uh, going into halftime. And fortunate enough, it was a Charlotte game. And fortunate enough, they called both time outs in the third quarter. But I, like,

I had put my team at a disadvantage because I had, I had kind of jumped the gun too fast on something that I thought I was right on. But it gets watched away because we won the game and we were

“winning and stuff like that. But like, you know, I think as a coach, you have to go back and say,”

regardless of the result, like I messed this up. And it just went, it just got swept out of the rug because we won. And yeah, that's the perfect example of like you could lose and coach a great game. And you could win and coach a shitty game. Yeah. Yeah. Is there a guy on your team that is like when they, because pretty much in the NBA every single time there's a 50, 50 call, the player will immediately go to the bench and be like, challenge it. Is there one guy who does that? You're like,

I'm never listening to you. I know, I think you're not going to be right. Derek. Okay. Yeah.

Because it is true. Like, if you challenged every single time a player asks for a challenge, there would be 75 challenges again. Yeah. But so I like what baseball's done. Yeah. I think there could be coaches challenge and then players challenge. Yeah. You should actually find the player, you should do a internal fine of the players. Like, if you tell me to challenge it and we get it wrong, I'm finding you. There's also like the spite challenge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's just football.

We're just like, I'm mad. I wish that didn't happen. So I'm going to challenge it. Yeah. And hope that I would say one of my greatest strengths is spite and weakness. I guess I have the same time. But like, I think the spite challenge comes out a lot. Yeah. That was what that I was talking about like, that was just the spite challenge. But you got to, you got to have that in your, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who's, who's the best? Who's got the best size in the game on your team?

Who's like, oh, they say they all do differently. One guy, I think that is Nimi. Nimi is kind of like, he plays a cool. Like, he doesn't really get emotional during the game. He kind of knows if it's the right calling out. Like, there was one time where I challenged for him and like, he came back and he was like, I don't know if he should have did that. That's awesome. I know it. So he, uh, he kind of stays right here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The baseball stuff is we

were talking about it a couple of days ago. But it's shocking how good everyone's. I know obviously their professional athletes, but when a guy challenges in it's like a centimeter off in being a ball. We were like five seconds right. Yeah. You're like, how is that? They're that good at that. Yeah. You know what, Derek is the best at, uh, if it was out on the other player. Oh, yeah. He can see the deflection, uh, you know, like the ball goes on a bounce and they call it

there. So he's the best at like seeing that even when he's not involved in it. Like, he can see that. And so if it's a 50 50 call with that and he, he's all in on it. I usually go all in on it with them. That's good to know. Uh, hey, do you have any questions for your best friend? Yeah, I'm so up coach. Uh, hey, I didn't know you were working tonight. We were doing that. It's Monday. Back to the grind. Um, we just worked yesterday. Yeah. Every day.

Every day is a work day. Um, Jason Tadem obviously when players get long-term injuries. Sometimes

“they, they don't travel with the team. They stay back and rehab. How important do you think it was?”

For him in that he traveled with the team the entire year. How how much easier did that make the transition?

because it just showed that he, uh, we were all in. He was all in and that we were all in together.

So being at film sessions, being at road games, being on the bench during the games.

“I think it just gave that environment of like, you know, one, he's all in. He's serious, but we're all in as a team.”

And I kind of said that to the team yesterday. I thought, uh, you know, everybody who didn't play. I think it was our top seven or eight. They were all at the game on the bench in the locker room, locked in on the game. And I think that's just shows being all in. So, um, you know, he showed that. Our team shows that. And I think that that's kind of like who we are as a team, you know. Yeah. You said, you said you, you're, you live off of spite. And obviously when you're, you know,

the game starts, you're, you're locked in. But before the game halftime, do you ever like, is there anything in the crowd fans, maybe fashion choices that just like tick you off like get, get you going? I mean, I'll, I'll make up stuff sometimes like just lie to yourself and be like, all that, that person said this to me. And they may not even like, oh, that person looked at me the wrong way. Like you just make up something to just be mad.

That's great. Yeah. That is a, I like that. And so you just get upset at them before the game starts. Or do you do this like during the game? Could be like, could be at any point in time. It could be like four hours before the game just see something. And then you're like, you're just like, you know what? I'm just, this is how I'm, that just piss me off. I'm doing this the rest of the day. Just making enemies. Yeah. Yeah, we're going. Yeah. That's, that's kind of the boss going.

The Italians. Yeah. I like it a lot. Yeah. So it's definitely an entire thing. Like you just wait, it's just mad for no reason. Like you just mad. Yeah. You were talking about how intense these last couple of games have gotten for you. Where do you go from there? Like, do you, do you try to ratchet up the intensity for the playoffs? Or do you try to pull it back, knowing that it's playoff basketball? So it's going to be intense anyways.

“I mean, I think you have to find the balance because you don't want it to turn to like”

where your tense, you know, and you can't execute. And so I think, you know, playoff basketball and in my opinion, there's no different than free season basketball, regular season basketball. I think the biggest difference is just the intensity and the physicality that you do. So we gotta be able to bring it from a physical, you know, intense standpoint. But at the same time, we just got, we gotta be loose and we gotta be ready to execute. You know, so I think that's

the difference in the playoffs. Everything is just done faster, harder, stronger, more intense, more physicality. Yeah. Has Brad Stevens ever said no to you? Yeah. Okay. So you're just like every single college in America. I mean, yeah, we have, he says no a lot. Yeah, you have to make us say no. You have to. Yeah. How many times has he been doing like the last couple weeks and just been like, no. Not, not too often, though, not too often. Yeah. But he does a good job of like,

I'll call him and be like, hey, like, this is where I'm at. Who'd be like, uh, yeah, he isn't giving you a no, but he doesn't give you like a yes. Oh, interesting. He's on the fence sometimes. Yeah. So we're doing a bit right now because it's every single college that ever has an opening.

We always joke the first thing you got to do is make Brad Stevens say no. And he will say no.

He 100% will say no. But like, UNC opens up and everyone's like, God, make Brad Stevens say no. It's like, we have. Of course. He's gonna say he's been saying no for a decade now.

“He has a great ability to say no without saying no. Oh, okay. So that's why they keep coming”

back. That's a good skill set to yeah. Yeah. Okay. He has a great ability of that. I would like to like do a deep dive on on Brad Stevens ability to say no. Yeah. So tell me more about that. Like, what do you mean he's got an ability to say no without saying no? Well, like, we'll be talking about and I'll like run this by and like, I'm like, who'd be like, yeah, you know, he's like, that's not how I would have done it. Like, something like that. It's like, yeah, that's it. That's

interesting. Like, yeah, I love your passion. Yeah. Let's try to redirect some of this. That's a way to look at it. Not how I love where you're coming from. Yeah. I love where you're coming from. Okay. Oh, sounds really great. Yeah. So that's probably what happened when you in Sequel. They're like, they're like, hey, Brad, we want you to take the job. He's like, listen, I really appreciate where you guys are coming from. Yeah, you guys are not how I would have asked. In theory,

I like what you're doing here. I think I would be a great coach for you. But unfortunately, I'm kind of busy right now. Yeah. Is that that makes a ton of sense if I was looking at it

from your perspective. But it's he has even drawn up more blobs for you? Always. I mean,

I think that's the cool thing. Like, before games, if we're in there as a staff, and, you know, we got a big dry race board in the office, and any chance we bounce stuff off each other. Uh, it's always great. Yeah. I mean, that's one of the, that's one of the things that I learned from him the best, right? Was it like in real time being able to, to get the exact right, uh, exes are no call. That's necessary. Do you think that he is holding back one

blob like forever? They'd like, if you really got him, if we got, if we could hit him with true serum, he'd like, yeah, I actually had this blob I never was going to show anyone out. Just in case, I ever needed it. Absolutely. The perfect blob. Yeah, it's probably in his back pocket. Yeah, he's probably in his back pocket. Yeah, like literally, you just know that he can, he could use it

you know, some CIO coach. Yeah. I've had this for 20 years. The perfect blob doesn't exist. Yes, it does. It's a bread. Steven's back pocket. How much game planning are you doing right now

for the playoffs? Like, I know that you don't know who you're going to be playing that first,

but like, are you actively doing like an either or situation where it's like, okay, if this happens, and well, we have one guy working on this team, one guy working on that team. So that this staff was doing that. That's where they're great. Like, the staff who's kind of divvy it up, uh, are two potential teams. But for me, it's like between now and Wednesday night, even Thursday morning, it's like, okay, how can I get us, you know, myself and the team kind of ready, uh, mentally,

and really mentally emotionally and psychologically, like, the physical stuff will happen at practice. But like right now, I'm just focused on like, by, you know, Wednesday night, we have to be so locked in on like our identity, our tendencies, our situation of basketball, our discipline, like, can we take it to another level, uh, but you know, the guy that, like, the guy who does that is, is JB, like he has an innate ability to, like, I bet you between now and tomorrow, we have a

couple days off or like, optional day of JB is going to just take it to another level mentally and psychologically. We're like, he comes into the building and like he changes the entire building with his mindset and like, everybody kind of feeds off of that. And so, uh, I like to feed off of him and in those moments, you know, and he can, he can take it to a, he can take it to a dark place and in a, in a good way. Um, but I'm looking forward to, to that, uh, JB sounds like a weapon,

a guy that just changes the entire building with his mindset. He is a weapon. He's, he's a hundred percent of weapon. Um, mentally psychologically, like, he can change an entire building. And I think a lot of what we, uh, done, uh, up into this point was like his decision, uh, to turn himself into

“a weapon, uh, heading into the season. And I think we were able to all leverage that. That's why,”

you know, we talk a lot about, uh, you know, why we are, we are, and everybody in the organization deserves credit. But I think, you know, this season, a lot of it started with him, you know, like, you couldn't have said it better, taking it, like, just turning himself into a weapon. Yeah. And like, did he say that he tell you, but like at any point in the beginning of the season, or training camp, or he's like, hey, coach, I'm thinking about turning myself into a weapon.

I guess I'm half too. You can just tell. Yeah. Yeah. You can just tell. Like, make it true. You can just make a try and does that too. Yeah. Because that would be cool, though, if he sat you down, he's like, I've been thinking about this for a really long time. I think I'm going to be a weapon this year. And the thing that he could do, like, he'll, he's very similar, like, I've learned us from him. Like, he uses people to get what he needs to get, like, he'll come in and he'll be

having a conversation with you. And meanwhile, he's just like either extracting information from you, or like, getting mad at you so that he could go out on the core and like, and take it to another

level. And I'm just sitting there and I'm like, loving every second of this. Yeah. Sounds like the

terminator. What's the, what's the status of your house right now? You were telling us about how

“when your house gets too nice, you have to like, junk it up a little bit, break something.”

But unless I have to show you all, yeah, you've had a lot of success recently. The house might be looking a little too fancy. So we, uh, so again, you know, get it ready for the playoffs is very similar, like, you know, you're almost trying to, you got to enter a dark space. So today's like a graceful day. You know, spending the day with my wife, uh, have some meetings at the downtown office to spend time with the organization, you know, tomorrow we start transitioning into the

darkness. And like, by Wednesday, you shouldn't even know what real, like you shouldn't even know what world you're in. Like, you should just be, yeah, so locked in. And my wife was great because like, I, what JB does to people, I do to her. So like, if I need to be a certain type of way,

I usually test it out on her first. Okay. Yeah. You're going weapon mode. Yes. And like,

we've gone like in the playoffs, we've, we've gone up to almost five to seven days without, like, speaking. And it's weapon mode. Yeah. Like, we were like five hard days where it's like, we're not even, we're not even communicating right now. But it was necessary because like, we all have to feel playoff mode. We all are being it. So she's also in weapon mode. She's,

“she's in weapon mode more than I am. Probably because he lives with me. Like, you have to be”

in weapon mode. Yeah. But yeah, 100%. We guys are in weapon mode together at the same time. Is that, is that cool? Or do you like recognize like, all right, game respect, game. Yeah, dangerous. Yeah. Do your kids go weapon mode is a whole house in weapon mode? We try to keep the kids out of it. But I'm trying to teach my oldest how to get into that. Yeah. There's many, what it's about to have for sure, many ways to get to learn something. I could tell by your answer.

That's my youngest is my youngest. So we have a rule in the house that like, you can put anybody in a guillotine at any time. We had to like, we had to like, we had to hold them back because

people in like chokehold out there. Uh, and here what was baked on when you guard down, yeah, we have a thing where like, if you, you cannot get guillotine in the house, but he's taken into another level. So does everyone respect the top of your house? I would assume they have to, right? There was a point in time where he didn't. We get really pissed out. I was like, kid, listen, like you have no respect for the art. How old is he? Seven. Seven year old,

who's addicted to guillotine, but doesn't respect the top. That is, I would move out. That's the house that move out from. But he's a nine. He's nine now. He he respects the top

“a lot more. He understands the compassion that you have to show for people who are choking. That's good.”

And he's much better at it, but he has a meme guillotine. But you could, you'd be sitting down on a couch and he'd just be like, oh, your guard down. Maybe it's like guillotine. But I bet he says some teachers that didn't really understand what you were trying to teach. That that maybe didn't appreciate him bringing the martial arts into the classroom, which, to me, that's the only way you learn. I mean, you want people to pay attention. There's

nothing like paying attention more than knowing if a guillotine's coming around your school. I agree. Head of the small sleep. Yeah. I'll tell you what was a better one. So we go to WWE and I'm, I download the playlist for like WWE intros of like the top, you know, guys. And what do you

think is the one that he flock to the most? I mean, undertaker is always a great one.

Yeah. Who was it? It was a school as well or no? It was old school. Yeah. Old school. Uh, motorhead time to bleed again. Oh, it was, uh, it was Sean Michael's sexy boy. So this guy's singing it the whole night. He's never has the song. And I'm like, I'm taking them to school the next day. I was like, kid, you cannot sing this song at school. I'll tell you what. I'm excited to, uh, I'm excited to hire this kid as a partial intern in about 10 years.

Maybe bring me wrestling. Yeah. That'd be great. We should actually have, we should have somebody like that in our office because we should just do something. Yeah. I think it should adopt a guillotine rule in the parts of the weapon mode. I almost feel like we're having one guy who's job it is to just like roam the hallways like secretly. Yeah. If you get got by this guy, like, it's like it would keep us all under toes a little bit more. Yeah. Bring back some of that survival

instinct that we've lost getting soft, fat, and complacent if we just have like some of sass and that's hiding behind chairs ready to choke us out. Yeah. And you start with guillotine, but then it gets to like trips, then it gets to kamoras. And now now you're coming into the office every day locked in right ago. Yeah. You're walking dangerous, but like in a good exciting. Yeah,

very exciting. I'd like to nominate Zach to be the guillotine guy. Well, first of all, was it Hank's

supposed to be training jujitsu? He should be the one that's doing. Yeah, my resolution. I think I saw

“the jujitsu gym right by my house. And I think I might try. You should. Like, can you just walk?”

Can I just walk in as a 41 year old man to be like, hey, I want a jujitsu? That's, that to me is the beauty of the art is like when you go to class, everyone is a weapon and there's like, it's probably one of the few spaces where there's literally no judgment and like you could get got by by anybody. You know, like the guy who's 41 who can't do five push-ups, but he's a purple belt. He's going to hem you up in some way. You know what I mean? Like, I could do five push-ups,

coach, come on. My wife, my wife's going to start training. Okay. All right, maybe Hank and I will do it. I'm going to do that. She's my smart partner yesterday before the game, which is what will just when you come to Chicago next, we're just rumble tumble around. That'd be fun. Yeah. Absolutely. All right, coach, this has been awesome. We love having you on. I got one last question,

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“the playing games. Do you care at all or is it just whoever's going to show off? Honestly, it's”

very similar to like fighting, like every whoever wins, they're going to be better than us at something. And, you know, we're going to have advantages and disadvantages and our opponent is going to have advantages, disadvantages. We've got to quickly get to like, what are our advantages and how do we keep those and how do we leverage our disadvantages? However it is, I know it's going to be a tough matchup, but like I said, up until then, we got to get, we got to get in weapon mode and

we got to be ready to go. I saw there was a quote, I think the players were asked what their favorite misu look was, and Sam Houser said, "There's no fouls in a war you either die or you don't." So, you can't actually, you actually can't complain about fouls for the entire playoffs. No, we shouldn't. Yeah, that's, it's war, illegal screen, illegal screen, illegal screen, man. If you guys need, if you need resumes on, you know, the guy that's going to come in and

got to do, the first thing we got to do to find this new job, we got to, we got to make Brad say no. So, we'll reach out. Okay. Yeah, we'll ask him officially if he'll come and be the designated guillotine guy at Parsley Chicago HQ. He'll say no in a nice way. I think that's a really good idea for the people that are interested in. Yeah, so we'll get the no and then we'll find someone else. Yeah, perfect. All right, coach, you're the best. Thanks so much, man. Good luck, fellas. Thank you, man.

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I, I said when I saw you was, did you lost weight? And I don't think that you did. I got a bigger shirt and I tucked in my shirt. That's it. And you view who pull your shirts down. I'm a big, pull your t-shirt guy. Oh, yeah. This move? That's all. Let's get the boobs more comfortable. Get the belly less visible. Yeah. Just get a bigger shirt. And the haircut's good, too. Yeah, it's good. Thank you very much. I've decided to go with the offseason look because during the season,

I like to pick the head. Yeah. If you're bald, you don't have many options. You have to look like Trevor from Grand Theft Auto or you look like Mr. Clean right now. I'm going for the state of the look, which is let it grow a little bit, but keep it tight. Yeah, let's get. And you also got lucky as a bald guy to have the facial hair to like, because like a bald guy who can't grow facial hair, that's the real tragedy. A bald guy who can have a sick beard like you do lined up and everything.

“Thank you. You're good. Thank you. I mean, you're good. It is important because it's kind of like”

letting everyone know, hey, I can grow hair at certain points in my body. Yeah, it's like I always

think it's funny when they show like the Brian Dabel inverted facial hair like where the beard is on his head or asian Robinson. Yeah, my favorite picture shot at the asian love asian. Yeah, you need hair on one of the spots. Yeah, somewhere. I wonder, I wonder if SVP ever tried to grow a beard. He's always just been smooth. He got the big glasses, which I feel like does it's functionally the same. It helps. It breaks up. It breaks up the speed just a little bit. Yeah, but something that gets the eyes going

somewhere else. SVP should do that. He should grow like an evil go tea. Yeah, just to see what it looks like. Yeah. That'll be sick of all the other come up with another set of initials. Yeah. Yeah. All right. See, you're here. I wanted to talk about a couple of things some ball. I also want to talk because we have the draft coming up next week, draft memories in the whole process. Like, let's start with this. If you could go back in time to right now, when you got drafted like a

week and a half out, what is going through your head as someone who's been told, hey, you're going to probably be a first rounder, but we don't know. Well, like, the whole thing. I don't think I've ever

“talked about this, but I think my dad knew that I was going to be a first round pick, but he always told”

me, through obviously his contacts and stuff. And these guys talk, yeah, like Mike Mayock and him are like a frat brothers. You know, I mean, they're homies. The indication unbeknownst to me at the time was I was probably going to be an end to the first round pick guy. I was under the understanding that I was a third round, maybe a fourth round guy. Oh, wow. I didn't have many starts in college. My technique was shit. I got tired quickly. I had an ankle injury. I thought, you know,

obviously, I'm going to get a shot to play somewhere. When I was sitting in that living room in Virginia with my older brother, my younger brother, my parents, and I got that phone call from

an 847 area code, and I didn't recognize the 847 area code at the time. It was amazing. And I remember

for the Chicago Bears. And congrats on being a first round pick, but more importantly, yeah, you're

going to the best place. Yeah. And that was the experience I had. Yeah, it was such a blur dude. The stuff I remember was training prior to the draft, right, try to put yourself in as good a position physically as you can be in. And I remember training and seeing guys like Andrew Luck prepare and just thinking I was like sharing a field with a Greek god and guys like Julian Edelman putting in three a days out there on the turf in the offseason. It gives you an indication of the type of work

“that you need to do to have success. And so going into like the pre drafted everything because”

you didn't play a ton of college football, the injury, whatever was their extra pressure on the combine where you're like, oh fuck, I have to because that's the funny thing about the combine. A lot of the guys, they're going there and it's like, all right, you know what I am, but there are certain guys, especially a physical like freak like yourself, we're like, hey, if I show up at the combine, like there is a world where they draft on measurables and they draft on your you're

sealing even if you haven't shown it all on tape. Well, I think that for a guy like myself who had a lot of red tape in my file, not just for on the field stuff, but for you know, character stuff and every guy is some semblance of character issues unless you're Kirk cousins. Yeah, um, every guy, which that becomes its own character issue. You're right. Yeah, you're too many. Yeah, exactly.

Put him on the list. Man, what is it was the Brian Cox? He's like never trust a man without a

“voice. Oh, that's what he said. I heard not trust a man named Tracy and never trust a man that”

doesn't have a mustache. Okay. I learned that from an OG when I got in the lead. I've been leary of Tracy. When I got to the combine, I knew that I was going to run fast, jump high, be strong, be a freak. The thing that I was really afraid of, not afraid of, but I was concerned with was that I was going to have 20 private meetings in person with these teams back to back to back to back to back, going to 12 30 in the morning, um, throughout the night,

and they were going to rip apart my file. Yeah, you're red flags. And it dawned on me early at the combine that, ah, these guys know everything. Right. They've talked to everybody, just be an open book. They'll appreciate that. And I remember getting more laughs than questions after I answered the initial questions. And I said, you know what, I did a good job there. Now go run your nuts off tomorrow. Somebody's going to pick you up and it end up being the Chicago Bears. Yeah, I'm looking

“at the draft right now. I think if we did a red draft, I think you would probably be top five”

in that draft. Really? I think so. Yeah. I would put, um, where do I end up? I think I might put you around like four or five, and that would send you to you. You might, you might be a bird. You might, you might have been an eagle. Could you imagine if Lane Johnson and I played right guard and right tackle next to each other for a decade? Right. Well, that's the thing, Lane Johnson. I think he would shoot up to number one and that's right. Who is number one in that draft? Eric Fisher,

what number one? Yeah. She's sure. Yeah. And then she's not Eric Fisher. Your joke will win second then John Jordan going three. I think you go probably no offense. Probably Lane Johnson number one. Oh, yeah. And that draft then I would say Geondry Hopkins too. Yeah. And then I would probably put I don't know. That's where we start to have the Kyle long conversation. You know what Travis Frederick would go on. That draft class often gets, you know, shit on. That draft class gets shit on

for, you know, one through 32 might not have 32 Pro Bowlers, but I'll tell you what. There's a couple of Hall of Famers in that first round Travis Kelsey in the third round. There's a couple of guys in that draft who had unbelievable careers and they're still playing now. So I mean say what you want. Yeah. So so I was looking at your, your weaknesses on NFL.com because they still have your weaknesses or your draft profile. Can we talk about those and and you can tell us if you address

those or I love it. If they were valid weaknesses. Yeah. Okay. Still new to the game of football. 100% still new to the game and still today. You're all 37. I'm still learning every day. We all are. Yeah. His play is still a bit unrefined. I kind of like that. I'm the crack. I'm like crack. I'm not

like refined. I was like yeah. I hit like crack in the 80s. Yeah. It doesn't always play with a natural

bend that he possess. So how's the better? Okay. Over extends off the snap of times trying to land his punch, losing his balance and allowing his man to disengage. Yes. So when I got into the league it became see what you hit not just throw your face at the enemy. And when I was at Oregon I remember I was on the ground way too much because I didn't know what the hell I was doing. But I agree with that. Similarly we'll lunge it line backers when he reaches the second level.

Yeah. We call that getting horny. When you get real close to it and you want to hit it real hard. Yeah. You end up missing it because they're better athletes. You're like this guy weighs 70 pounds less than me. I'm going to take advantage of this. I heard who couldn't accrue a reference to that one time about football. He was like we call that getting a little bit horny. Like when you

bat before the balls in the zone. Yeah. He struggles to keep his hands inside of his defender.

“Who is this guy? I don't know. Now it's out. Now you're mad. Now you're mad. Do you struggle to keep your hands”

inside of another man? No. I know. He will catch his assignment. I don't know what that means. Catch his assignment. So as an offensive tackle you often see guys that play with great strike or length. Darn all right plays with his hands out in front of him. It does a great job of that. I was a guy that invited contact and then I'd bear hug you and then I'd find a way to sit down and make you stop. I didn't have that length that a lot of those tackles had. So I agree with the catch.

Whatever way you do it. It seems to second guess himself in space. Don't we all. That's because

I didn't have the plays. Yeah. Or get partial glancing blows or sorry. It seems to second guess himself in space or get partial glancing blows when blocking on the move instead of driving his man to the ground. Mmm. Wow. This guy's going to have a really hard time. These are all the weaknesses. I just want to I want to know if you had. How he lost. Rocky starts his career slowly. This is brother. Stranks looks the part of an NFL line. Yes. This is facts. It's good shorts.

So did Tony Mandarin. Oh, this is good. Has nice height and long thick arms. Nice. Which he can extend to keep the fenders at bay and pass protection. Sometimes using one hand to ward off his man while on the move. That's sick. True. That is pretty good. Strength. Excellent mobility given his size has no issues moving behind the line or pulling in front of plays. Hitting multiple targets at times. Solid uncombo blocks maintaining his bend. Also displays the

footwork to get the outside angle on run blocks. Plays with the attitude backs up his teammates on the field cleans up piles. So there's thank you for going through that. This reminded me of

when I went to the senior ball and it was my first time having to take my so I'm bald. You know,

I don't. What? I have a cold attack on top of my head. But I've had that since I was 20 years old. I started going bald. You know what I'm saying? I went to the senior ball and it was the first time where I had to take off my fitted hat. Like I was a fitted hat to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand. Yeah. And I thought I could weigh in with my hat on and they were like, and it was like a stage in front of all the scouts, all the people. And I had the worse

hair. Like the worst bald guy hair horrible. And I got off the stage and immediately checked my Twitter because I had just made a Twitter for that pre-draft process. And the only tweet from the way I was every year, there is a player that is more bald than bald. This year's player

is Kyle Wong. Oh my god. This is in the worst fucking day of my life. Oh man. He had a year.

Smart move by the way, not having a Twitter until the draft. Yeah. I feel like you saved yourself a very large agent. Well it's funny because halfway through my career my older brother went through a process where he cleaned out his Twitter. He hired somebody to go in there and just make sure that everything's all good. And you know, just stupid tweets at the end of the night. And

“the day. And I did the same thing. I'm probably due for another one. Have you guys ever done that?”

No. Ah, yes, we did. We did before parcel van talk. They they remember they cleaned they made us clean it out. I don't think I deleted anything though. I think I think they cleaned it out and they're just like, hey, what's this? And it's like it was a lot of like the manual retweets of other people. And they're like, I was like, yeah, but I didn't say that, but it's not yours. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. There wasn't a lot there. And we also just completely missed the biggest

thing. Remember which was my pick-up episode. Yeah. We did a terrible job of cleaning it up. Remember when the the bad thing in sports was people with Twitter is like, when I got the league, I was active on Twitter. And it's really what got me to be friends with so many people in the media space and have so many relationships. But I remember I get looked at like a pariah. Yeah, locker room. Yeah, because it was just there was only downside, which is wrong. Because there was

“definitely upside. And like there's I think there's always especially like guys that are younger,”

like having a connection to the fans. Like fans just want the athletes a route to for to just feel like regular got. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I grew up watching Ken Griffey Jr. Like I wish I could have read his tweet. Right. Like when I was 12 years old, I wouldn't have been able to like look up what is Roger Clemens tweeting before he goes out there and pitches against the red socks. That stuff's cool. And when I was a young player, I was like, I want to be, I want people to know

what's going on. Right. And who we are, because we wear helmets. We're not in the NBA. You don't see us. You don't get to talk to us. So connect with people that way. So we're actually talking on Monday show about how the you know the bastards has their cell phone policy, how more places could actually benefit from that. I think you might agree maybe a locker room would be a good place to have. I think you and I can all we can all agree to not have a cell phone. Well, I would say you can have a cell

you wrote for us in the book. Thank you very much. And it was, it was, it was part like the story of you getting a picture taken by the media with your dick out. That would like my dick wasn't out. My dick was just there. Yeah. He was in the locker room acting normally as one does in the locker.

“Somebody had their camera out. But that was why that's why part of my take exists is like to have”

to have a place where it's like, hey, you want to come on and let's make some jokes about it. Yeah. What else are you going to do? Like it happened? What are you going to do? Yeah. So it's a funny moment. We move on. We don't talk about it anymore.

Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. I will never bring one. I still don't think about it. I still don't think about it.

I still understand why you were rock hard. Yeah. I don't know. It was exciting time. Monday night football, man. It's exciting. You guys won, right? In the nation's capital. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Every guy gets like one of the battle lost the war. Yeah. Yeah. You were saying before, did you go to Gruden's facility before the draft? So when I retired from the bears. Okay. In 2019, I took a year off and started working for CBS and I was like, man, I still want to hit people. And I'm still athletic. And I still can play. So I'm going to go do that. And the first person I call was Mike Mayock. As I alluded to earlier,

him and my dad are tight. He was like, we'll get you in for a workout. Coach Gruden would love to have you in for a workout. Tom cable was the coach. Now, Tom cable is somebody who has some personal experience with substance abuse from his own house, because he's dealt with it with his immediate family. And when I was in the pre-draft process,

“Tom cable was with the C-hawks. One thing I'll never forget is going to the C-hawks private meeting room”

with Pete Carroll at the end of the board table. And all the staff on the side. And when I sat down, they brought out a case that he's doing like slapped in front of me. And they kind of were like, you want to have a beer? I remember being like, you realize I could fucking rip every single one of you guys up in this room.

And this is like wrong. And so many. I've never told this story, but this is me off thinking about it now.

And Tom cable was there and Tom cable really grilled me that day. And I feel like he was projecting on to me a lot of the things that, you know, I just had, I got caught having fun a couple times. Right. Um, and I have fun still. Right. Soon me. But when I got to the Raiders, Tom cable was the old line coach for that workout. He tried to kill me. Didn't kill me, tried to kill me. And then at the end said, you don't have it. He said, go talk to John Grouden. And I went up there. And you did a whole

workout. And at the end of it, he's just like he didn't say you don't have. He said, go talk to the coach. Oh, you know, type thing. And I was like, all right. And as a guy who played in one place for so long,

“I never did any of these workouts. I don't know how they go. Right. You know, who's bringing you where?”

And I go up the Gruden's office. It was great to see Gruden. I just, I just love that guy. He's

all for best. And he said down the chair right next to him, right across from good to see a man. I'm like, good to see a coach. And he goes, you love football, man. I say, yeah, coach, I do. I bet you don't like football as much as I do. And I look down. I said, you're probably right, coach. You say, well, I think we're going to go with Leatherwood. Thanks for coming out. That's fucked up. And I was like, see a part. Yeah.

Yeah. Because he hoping that you would fight them. Me like, I know. I love football more. It was like, I was a kid looking at Chuckie. You know what I'm like? I grew up watching Chuckie. Yeah. And he was giving me Chuckie in that moment. And I just said, coach, you got this one. I know you love football more than me. Yeah. How that worked out for them. They've been on the come up ever since, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think they're paying for head coaches.

It is. It is really fucked up though that the C.O.X did that. I, if you had a severe drinking problem, if you were like an alcohol. Which I don't. Which you don't, but if you did, let's say that you had like a problem. And you bring a kid who's how old were you at the time? Yeah, you got to twist and see. You got the lofty. I was 23. Okay. So you bring a 23 year old in for a job interview. And you just slam a case of beer in front of you. I bet you won't want one of these. Don't you say?

And they all laugh. Yeah. Yeah. That's like, that's actually a fucked up thing to do to a young man. Because what people don't realize, you know, out of context, that seems fun. Oh, it's funny. You know? Yeah. But the meeting before there could have been a substance abuse psychologist or a therapist in there trying to grow me like cross-examination style. Right. I've been through the ringer that day. And like I said earlier, 17, 18 of these private meetings in a row. It's great. You start to go crazy.

You start to feel like the guy from severance who's in like, yeah, get me out of here. How do I get out of this building? Did they have a camera in your house on draft night? No. Do they ask? No. They should have. That's a big miss on there. We're going to like, that is. If they'd ask you to go to the draft, would you have gone? No. I think that's a lose-lose situation. It's a lose-lose. Right. Yeah. It's a lose-lose. Unless you're Chris Long.

Yeah. Yeah. More Jake Long. Do you remember his draft night? I do. That I would say that Chris's draft night was the best night of sports in our family. I mean, Chris won two Super Bowl. So he would have a

Yeah. And I pitched that night. We slaughtered the team. I think I was, I think I like 14 strikeouts.

And I went like four for four. And I remember in the sixth inning, there was two outs and I'm getting ready to strike this guy out. And the PA announcer, Robert Morris, shot at the Robert Morris. He's like the OG, PA announcer at St. Anne's Battlefield. He's like in a brief pause in the action. Chris Long, if St. Anne's Battlefield High School goes number two overall. Oh, yeah. And I remember just being like, "Oh, I'm about to fucking cave his guy." That's awesome. And I just remember my parent and we had

prom that night. Oh, so much of the best night. So like literally the game ended, you shower up, get your eye black on, or off, get your suit on. And I remember my dad and my mom showed up with ramps, hats to like take pictures with us. It was just like the best day ever. And Chris didn't make it back because he was in New York with all those whooligans doing God knows. So you struck out 14 guys, went four for four at the plate, and then went to prom. Yeah. That's great. And your brother

got some really good night. That's a pretty good night. That's a really good night. That's a size school seniors. Are you, are you pissing all the rest is cloudy? Yeah. Are you pissing all

“it, Chris and your dad for having hair? You know what? Sometimes I am. Yeah, you should be.”

But there are some things I have that they don't. Yeah, but how he's kind of got it all. He's got it.

He's got it, but one thing. And his hair is never changed. He can't golf because he said it

hurts too bad. So I can golf. He can't. Okay. I got golf game. It's all right. I mean, me and Hank are ready. No, but you say all right, what is what's your hand? I'm an 11.2. Okay. So that's pretty good. I'm trending up. I was a 14 last week. When did you start? Well, I started it again. Like, after the season, I start going to the range a lot. Nobody, I mean, like, when did you start aren't you relatively new to COVID? Probably. Yeah. Oh, you're one of

those guys. Rank. Yeah, strength to games. Yeah. You're probably having. Yeah. That's what you're 23. I wear a lot of Malbon. Yeah. You got to hatch the big letters on them. Yeah. I wear metal spikes. Mm-hmm. I get the Bluetooth speaker. Yeah. We still haven't golfed. I know we got to do it for you. He need to do that. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We absolutely should. A little lefty versus righty. Yeah. Yeah. He could put his voice. No, he can have the opposite. He could be on both teams.

So were you okay with that? He better not want you and then righty with us. I'm fully converted. I posted a video of me swinging right hand at the other day. Unbuttoned us to me. Hank did that, too. And somebody was like, you're booking stealing. Fuck man. Fuck right handed people. Let me ask

“you a question. No, I'd love to use something. Let's carry a Kyle. Kyle, what is your question?”

Sweetheart. Are you fully converted to lefty if you still put righty? I'm a lefthander. No, I know, but if someone were to walk in and say, hey, Kyle, you're lefty. I'm a lefty. Love you, bro. Like, didn't need to be more lefty representation in the world. Oh, yeah. By the way, I also put righty. Well, it's funny you say that because as kids, if we're putting, oftentimes as lefthander, so there's not left handed putters around. So we learn to put

on our dad's putter or our, you know, whatever's putter. And it's always right handed. I'll never

forget that. I'm going my way. I used to, there was a pin cutter that sat in my dad's office. And I would just fuck around with it. And then, you know, he's like, you're a lefty. You don't use that one. Yeah, what about, um, what if you still chip right handed? We got to talk to a third. Okay, hey, hey, hey, maybe he's converted lefty, but he chips and puts it right. I've seen one handed chippers. A lot of guys have been going to that to rid themselves of the yips. I don't understand it, but that's great.

That's a, uh, right hand is at the yip, yaps. Yeah. Oh, I will also be chipping lefty soon enough. I just good. What is soon enough, man? I got to practice more. I got to practice outside. We got to set it. We have to set a deadline on this because you're just going to keep pushing it off. Okay, Memorial Day. Okay. Done. M-D-W. M-D-W. Left handed chipper. Going to be, yeah, huge. Kyle, let's talk some football about, like, actual, this draft this year. Great.

There's a lot of really, really good defense of players. I feel like they're going to go high up. Is there one guy that you think is, like, a little bit undervalued right now? That could make his way up in that top, like, six seven area? Look, I don't know if this guy's going to be anywhere near that zip code, but some guys are just born football players. And this guy, the linebacker from Texas Tech. Yeah, Rodriguez. Yeah. Malcolm Rodriguez. Awesome. Holy shit. Yeah. I mean, just, like, I like to

“watch the cut-ups of these guys in coverage because, in my opinion, you should be able to play the”

run that should be just like, you know, 101 is playing gap integrity. Right. But where you see a lot of the disparity in the NFL is when these running backs go on these choice routes, when these tight ends are crossed in the field, when these my climbbackers, middle of the field players are forced to be in trail technique. Rodriguez is a ton of ball skills. He's also a great tackler in space. And I feel like there's a premium with the athlete to the tight end position,

the hybrid guys at running back. The other guy that I watched a lot on the defensive side is Rubin

what a rare body style, Rubin Bain has like gummy bear. He has like a gummy bear, but like press down a little bit, like a violent explosive gummy bear. And I just think that folks at home look at the length conversation, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. Well, tackles and defensive side of the ball. And they overvalued it. I think if a guy has natural leverage, if he can bend, the decision has to be made by an offensive line, and I'm going to be

in for a fist fight 70 plays in a row. And Rubin Bain reminds me of one of those kind of players. And I think you'll have success in the national football league. I think he can reduce down

and nickel. I think he can be first second down guy on the edge. Whatever he wants to do. So if you

were alignment and you were matched up against guys, he has those small arms, but he's strong as fuck and explosive and he's got that bend. Like what would a guy like that give you problems with? Well, first and foremost, you want to make sure like in that negative scouting report, you don't get your head out of front of your body. With a guy who has a leverage advantage against you, you want to make sure your feet are under you. You see what you're hitting because oftentimes

they get on you and they can shock you. Or a guy like Vaughn Miller and these are not the same player,

“but Vaughn Miller could do that ghost rushery. You have to be aware of the things that they can win”

easily with and take those away and then just ride the bull. Fuck and find a way to get on the bull and pray to God that your quarterback isn't sequence and that he's stepping up at 10 yards.

Yeah. Zack, do you have some questions for a gamer to gamer? This is our second gamer to gamer.

Oh, GTG? Yeah, little GTG. How's it? How's it? Yeah, it's a poms. You even hints tell him, I want to say all you damn battlegrounds and he still amontists. I haven't

been a stellar march for a while, but you know, they stopped the end game as what bothers me about our creators. It was, uh, it was like Christmas morning for two months playing that game. Everybody had so much fun. Everybody in their mom have played and then people, it's like a ghost town I imagine. I switched to crimson desert, those Zack. Okay.

It's a great game. It doesn't require me to have any of my buddies online. It's like Skyrim

for the OGs. He used to be in there. You could play Skyrim still, probably crimson desert. In my opinion, he's one of those games. They kind of did destroy, uh, they went too heavy on the play of his environment. So the play of he player on the updates, the devs are destroying the game. Yeah, you know what? I want to shwack players. I agree. I want to shwack players that are fighting the environment. I don't know how to take these guys out. So, so people are, so, essentially,

there's a giant map. You spawn on one side with you and me and Zack spawn on the other side. And within that map, there's a bunch of little missions that we can all do. If we happen to run across each other, we can have one of two options. Hey, buddy, you friendly. Can we work together and get this giant, uh, Mac down and we can go the loot? Or, I can say, hey, we're friendly. And then a discord, I'm like, Zach, we're gonna fucking kill you kill him. And then we kill him.

“And we run those pockets big at it. We take everything. We get the goop. That's what they call it.”

The goop. Yeah. Oh, even goop and guys. The goop of get gone. Goop of get gone. Yes, sir. It's a shirt right there. G-U-T shirt. Is it G-U-G-G? King Goop. Goop of get gone. Goop of get gone. Goop of get gone. Goop of do's goop and can't go wrong. Super, goop of do's goop. Goop of do's goop. Got to bring some, some wet wipes. Goop of get gone. All right. Do any of the other gamer gamer questions?

Yeah, I guess I guess it's just self as you've ever been trying to run and just let me know. I'm up late. I'm up late. I would like to. I would love to. I'm on 11, 15, shut the computer off East Coast time. Guy. Oh, so maybe I'll get you started. That's what he turns it off. No, we're shutting down like 12 central. You know, so we're similar on the, on the shutdown. Really? That's not so wide. Unless you have an important meeting in which case you stay up to three.

Yeah, yeah, if it was the last time it went along, you know, there's nothing I can do there.

“That would just be selfish of me to get off. When was the last time you shut it down at 12 central?”

Probably last, probably last Thursday. Okay. Okay. Hey, Hank. PGA2K. You done it? Oh, yeah. So not the new one as much, but people. I'm a winner gamer. Hey, it's great. And if you turn the difficulty up, it's not just pull straight back, pull straight forward. It's like if you hit a draw or cut, you got to do it. I mean, the ranked is awesome. Yeah. I've had some some struggles. Some viral clubs. I won reviro last week. I saw this on PGA2K, but it, it's, it's a great game. Get back on the horse.

I like, I like, I'm, once it gets nice out though, it's, it's, I miss real video games. Kyle, we got to get, uh, we got to get up in the skies and DCS over the person golf. I've been running some operations over the straight-of-war moves. Let's get that blockade out. And I've, I've been fucking up some Iranian Navy ships. And they're not happy. They're not happy about it. But I'm opening up the fucking straight. Like, you see what gas prices are? If they come down, you can, yeah,

the virtual gas prices are so low. Yeah, but we can, we can, we can get you up in that map and, and I'll,

And you can take out some of these skippers. Love that. It will be the nods on. Yeah. Yeah. What, uh, doing media is it's scarier than playing in the NFL? Sometimes. Okay. Good. Depending on how you work with. Depending on who you work with. That's like the big thing.

Yeah. Yeah. If you work with Pete, is that scary? Pete is amazing. Shout out to Pete Prisco.

Um, you know, my biggest job is just come with the energy to be ready to react off of Pete's energy because he's got to be bringing his firewall on his fastball. Sometimes you work with people that don't

“do that and you have to be more of like the quarterback, I guess. Um, but I really like my role as kind of”

this six man or, you know, glue guy, I guess. I'm not a leader. I'm not the big star. I'm just a guy that's in there trying to make conversation happen. I think you and Pete make for a very good duo. Thank you, bro. Because he, he does watch the tape. So he will have, it'll be an informed opinion. Sometimes it'll be incorrect, but at least he's got an informed opinion. And then you just get to react off that. I, you guys get to hold big, big guy, little guy thing going on too. So it's a,

it's a good dynamic. He's been a great vet to be around. Yeah. Um, I've learned a lot from

and he's a guy that's done it the right way for 40 years. I mean, he's been covering the National Football League for so long. And if you see him have interactions with coaches or scouts, they're like, fuck you Pete, but great to see you. Like whatever, they're like, I read what you wrote. You're right, but you shouldn't wrote that. No, he writes whatever he feels. I respect it.

“Yeah. Absolutely. Do you have any any hot takes going into the next football season?”

Like a team that we can do the team that we'll make the playoffs. I want loss. Jackson Dart. I love the idea of Matt Nagy being the OC and not having to worry about head coach duties. Yeah. Just like having a guy like John Harbobby, the OG, and you know that the programs can be run a certain way. If Matt Nagy and Jackson Dart can get on the same page, it's going to be a lot of fun for people in New York. Okay. I like that. Is there a hot take? Is there a team that you

think might regress? Team that will regress? Well, I don't want. I don't think that the bears are going to regress. No, I think, but I think similar to the, it's not the same as the commander. No. But when the expectations are at 35,000 feet and you end up at 32,000. Yeah. People act like this guy's football. I think there's a chance that we could have, we could be a better team with the worst record given the fact that a lot of those wins were pretty crazy. Wait,

wait, one second. Going into the last season, that's exactly what I said about the commanders.

“Yeah. And you guys said that I was being half in half out. Well, I think the difference is that”

you, you're, the commanders were an old roster. The bears are a young roster. So I don't think, I think we'll be in the playoffs. I'll be very disappointed if we're not in the playoffs. Right. No, that's right. Now, I think that's exactly like verbatim what I said going to the last day. We're going to regress with the record, but not as far as a team goes. And what we say, but I was wrong. I was wrong about everything with that take. Right. Like I was correct about it.

They learned, which is so, so hard to do in this league. I mean, obviously winning's hard to do, but winning, close game. Yeah. Winning two-minute situational football. That breeds so much confidence. And when I watch that team in Kansas City, when Patrick's healthy and when things are rolling, they know if they're within striking distance with four minutes left. And there's a chance on God's green earth that Patrick gets the, it's the same thing we haven't. I think Caleb's going to

make an, an other leap. Like I really do. We have the same feeling here. Yeah, because it's just like he, everything that happened last year. He did a lot of the hard stuff and made it look easy. And a lot of the easy stuff look hard. And if he could just raise the, like his ceiling is so high, just raise the floor little. Some of the easy plays, some of the check downs. Like those are there. And now, every guy on that roster, one through 53 understands that if they can ratchet it up,

one or two clicks, they may have an opportunity to be a guy. Because you're when you're on a team like this, it's like a king maker team. Yeah. Okay. These guys become higher paid, more marketable, pro bowlers, you win games, you get all that and people smell that now and they want a taste of it. I also will say that a lot of this depends on how the draft goes. Yeah. You got to nail like we have a lot of holes on the defensive side right now. And if the draft, if you can't get, the,

the bears need probably two to three like impact starters in this draft, which is a tall task. But that's really been done to, to get where we want to go. That's probably going to have to happen. Like it's going to have to be a couple dudes on the defensive line that are instant, oh, they're dudes and they can contribute. Yeah. That's just the spot there. Have you paid any attention at all to Jennings Dunker? Help me out. He's the guy from, I believe he's from Iowa.

He's Iowa. He was in the office last year. Yeah. He's offensive lineman. He's got the mollet. I watched their center. I haven't watched the mollet guy. Yeah. The mollet guy. The center can go. The mollet guy is, he is becoming extremely marketable. I think ESPN just wrote a giant article

pro Quinn minor. Quinn minor. Yeah. Who marketable has been incredible. Yeah. But yeah, this

Jennings Dunker guy. I don't know if he's more flat, which is weird to say like an Iowa offensive lineman is he too flashy. Is he like two Iowa has he gone so far too much sex appeal in his Iowaness that he's actually become anti Iowa. But I guess we'll find out more about that. I did have one more question about about the bills next year. I don't know what to expect out of the bills.

“And I like Joe Brady. I think he's a really smart guy. I think a lot of teams have thought about”

hiring him in the past. And he's been like clearly a great offensive mind for a few years now. What can we expect out of Joe Brady's offense? How is it going to look different from maybe the way that the bills have operating in the past while having Joe Brady on the staff? Well, the Kyle Long Buffalo bill then diagram is strongest at the point where Aaron Kromer intersects us an Aaron Kromer with the offensive line coach slash run game coordinator. And in my

opinion, outside of Josh Allen was the MVP of that offense. And the things that they were able to do is cook and get that offensive line on the same page. It pays dividends for Josh. A lot of what we heard last year towards the end of the year don't make it all Josh. He doesn't I think Joe Brady's like, hey, Josh, you want to go make it all you. You want to go be a freak baller. You want to go LeBron this shit. I think Josh is like, yeah, I do. And I think what we see next year is the Josh

Allen show and would DJ more coming in town with a few of those offensive linemen still around. This group is still going to be firepower and offense. Who's going to rush the pastor in the playoff? Who's going to be the guy that, you know, sends chills down the spot of a tackle on third down because they've brought guys in over the last courts. Of course, the last couple of years that have been over the hill. Yeah, great. Yeah, I mean, the young guys would juice. I don't

want to hear it. It's marquee guys and rotate three guys that are pretty good or get a really good guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Kyle, last question, robot question, our HOBACK.com, promo code take 20% off reverse purchase, Qsips, Polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, orobac.com, promo code take. I just thought of this because we do have to do a golf video with you. Do you think that any of us here could get a hit off of you? Right now. Yeah.

“Probably max for sure. Max, you can take a max off. What speed did you throw out right now?”

Depends on how many A, B's. We might have to do this. We have to have them come out. Top half of miming. He gets nine fastballs. Oh, all fastballs, 100% I'll get. Oh, shit. How fast you do? Just my shit. Oh, it's bro. I'm not out to hank this. I'm actually tired. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'll be honest, bro. Be a quick one. Yeah, I would get it. I would get it quick. If it's all fastballs for sure,

if you're that confident, I would just be in you and deal with it. I would wear that shit too. Shout out to Philly for being an absolute tough guy. You can just get killed over here for his quarterback is team. Max does. Yeah, I like his quarterback. I just think it's it's sad what they're doing in the middle. Yeah, the building. These fucking Eagles fans, man. What happens when a story comes out like that? And you're in the locker room. You're like, who the fuck is talking in this locker room?

You just, you don't trust anybody. Yeah, came and looked people in the eye anymore. That was, I mean, that was the era of chrome. Bro, I've been, I've been, yeah, that was.

“The era of chrome was the leak that was like, Jay is bad. Yeah, and then he, I think he walked out of”

the locker room. A reporter was like, Hey, what happened there? He's like, you want to know exactly. Yeah, I have a nice thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Matt and Jay haven't talked to Jay for ever. I talked to him a couple of months ago. He's, he's, he is at peace. Yeah. With the country side. He also every, yeah, every like every other month, I'll just see a picture, though pop up in a jade just like killed an animal wrestling a narwhal. The craziest animal I've ever seen. Yes.

I didn't know they made them. He's on tattooine, I think. I have it a great time. All right, Kyle,

always great having you guys. Always great seeing you. I appreciate you. You want to plug anything?

You got anything to plug? Uh, I think we should plug water boys. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Water initiative. Also still are going to do Kilimanjaro. Yeah, Killy. Yeah. I'll be there eventually. We're going to do it. Have you never done it? No, I'll take a jet. Oh, so you're with us. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. We'll do it when you do it. Okay. I can't remember, uh, before the draft, before it was before the, uh, the, the, the Super Bowl. Maybe Blake Bordle's was not made

for Walter Peyton Man of the Year. And, uh, we talked to him about that award. And he was like, yeah, you know, I didn't know that, uh, that the long brothers were going to deliver water to the entire continent. That's one of us. Yeah. Uh, so Chris long ended up getting the, uh, the Walter Peyton Man of the Year award over him. He's a good man. All right. So very good chair. So that's where we're leaving. You will do Kilimanjaro when you do it. You'll do it when we do it.

When I'm under 280 and we agree to just never. Yeah. Yeah. Again. All right. Thanks. Thanks, guys.

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We're so back from April 30th to May 3rd. So back. Okay. Before we get to guys on chicks breaking news. Don't need the move cow. This just happened. Diana Racini has resigned from the athletic. And then she wrote a letter that is, uh, chart read it. It's long. I'll read it. Please accept this letter as my resignation from the athletic. I can't read. Effective immediately. I've come to this decision with deep sadness with clarity about what is right for me, my family.

And work I spent my career building. Wait. This is, uh, when the page six item first appeared,

the athletic supported me unequivocally expressed confidence in my work and pride in my journalism for that. I'm grateful. In the days of fall, it unfortunately commentators in various media have engaged in self-feeding speculation that is simply unmoored from the facts more over this media frenzy is hurtling forward without regard for the review process. The athletic is trying to complete. It continues to escalate fuel by repeated leaks. And I have no interest in

submitting a public inquiry that has already caused far more damage than willing to accept. So she's resigning. Her contract was up June 30th. She's resigning from the athletic. This story has gone from like Tuesday night pictures on page six to whoa. We ended up here exactly a week later. Yeah. I'm starting to think maybe the girls trip might not have happened. I can see from her point of view why she would not want to continue with the, the like inquiry. Yeah, especially because

like every like a couple of days there's been something else coming out from the New York times. Yeah. Yeah. I've been trickling out. So it, it's, it's such a contract was coming up anyways. I feel like her cutting bait might be the right move at this point. It's probably right for her to go away with how hot everything is. And you know, she got ratioed to hell on Thursday. Once she tweeted the thing about the refs, I would say that it does feel like the original story that was

thrown out there when the photos came out has probably not held up to scrutiny. And that's part

it does feel like there, there might be like, hey, I know how this, I know the where the wind's

blowing them out. Yeah. Or maybe positioning for a lawsuit. I'm not sure. Yeah. I'm not sure, but it's the whole situation continues to suck. What happens was variable. So that's the thing is like, there will be conversations about like a double standard. And it is kind of shitty how and I am speaking from a bias point of view being a friend of ours. I'll freely admit that

“there's been a lot of shit. And I think since she lives in the online sports media ecosystem,”

variable doesn't have to see as much shit. Yeah. I wrecked it at him for essentially being the same part of the same story that people are getting mad at her for. So I don't know. I don't again, it goes back to where we're talking about with Jerry. I don't think that either one of

them was going to get fired because again, based on the pictures that they had, I don't think

there was a smoking gun to fire somebody over. Yeah. But with variable, I don't think he'll get disciplined at all because he's a football coach and if a football coach can win a football game, then they won't be disciplined. Yeah. I think it's like, for me, it sucks when anyone loses their job. I do think that there's part of it that is probably her own demise. Like in that, that was a bad look. I said it from the beginning. That was a bad look when you see the pictures. You're like,

I don't, we maybe we don't have the full context, but the context we're going off of is not a great look. So she was probably going to have to deal with this for a long time. She probably can find a job working in some space in football, but maybe it's not insider. So I don't know what what's next for her.

I don't wish her any ill will whatsoever, but this also felt like it was coming from the beginning

from the photos to the girl strip guy strip thing that didn't really make much sense to, you know, the zoomed out picture with the beautiful Sedona mountains in the background. If you just ask anyone on the street, take a look at these. You objectively just going to say, this does not look good and we don't know the context, but it seems like we're not going to get any more context

“because she resigned. So I think about being an insider though, it's like if, if she breaks stories,”

people are going to pay attention to the stories. True. So it's a story. That's the thing. It's like yeah, I think she might have a hard time finding a traditional media outlet like the New York Times like ESPN that's like actively pursuing her right now, but I think I saw Ryan Glassbeagle talk about this online. I agree with him. If she just broke a story online tomorrow, yeah, people be like, oh, shit. She's back. She's breaking stories. It's not like that value is going to go away

if you're still able to do it. Right. Yeah. We're, I'm looking right now at the Twitter on the screen. It looks like bar stool is trending. I would assume it's trending because people are saying that she's coming to bar stool. I don't think that's probably going to happen. Would be my guess. We are the number one outlet that people speculate people have hired by. Yeah. We are, we're like Nick Sabin's Alabama Refugee for coaches. Yeah. That's a similar feeling. Also. Yeah. So that's it.

Actually, that's, that's all of it. I don't think anything's going to happen to variable or we'll find out. He didn't do his media thing. Hank. So he maybe is just staying low profile for a while. And then we'll see wherever Diana pops up again. Don't wish you a will, but I also think this was a avoidable situation that kind of feels like, you know, what you did is going to have repercussions, especially when you're in this line of work. All right. Let's, let's do guys on chicks.

Guys on chicks. Yeah. It's been a fun show. We did everything. We did orcas. We did space. We know PFT can shoot a one ten at the masters or no. Sorry. Take that back. Right. Well, how are you going to start off? We know PFT can't shoot a one ten at the master. It's a classic posture. Sure. I can shoot as much as he wants on this pussy. Wait. What? And that's it. That's not a question. That was not of those statements.

Guys on chicks. That sounds like it was written by an actual female listener. Oh, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Meem sent me this. Meem sent you that one. He's like, you wrote that. No, no, no, no, no, no. I read it. I read it. I'll have this morning. Max, like I just said a bit. What was that? I thought I thought it was a good submission. Yeah, yes. Listen, it's real. Do you know what I learned today? I don't really know if I want to say this.

“Oh, yeah. Now you have to. Can't we tell me that there's a trend in the”

gay community that guys are calling their butt holes, Pussies? That's just funny to me. My man, Pussies? Yeah, just being like, "Fuck me in my pussy, my boy." My boy is your butt hole. Yeah. I shit out my pussy all the time. And then we found out Connor Griffin calls his his butt hole as Pussies all the time. Really? Yeah. Kind of fucked up. Yes. That last part was not true. Why? What? The water here from part.

The Connor Griffin part? Are you talking about the pirates player? No. The phenom? Yeah.

the guy that just saw the contract? Orange hair, Connor Griffin. The guy that just got

Tamacray. Noting Griffin. Wait, he's dating. Connor Griffin's dating. T-Macray? No. Just for her on a t-shirt. Which one are we talking about now? Okay. We're talking about the one that calls his butt hole as Pussie. That's the C Connor Griffin. Right. Yeah. The rich one. Rich in friendship. Got it. Mm-hmm. Also, we don't talk enough how the the president of the pirates' name, Mr. Knudding. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, it's awesome. Should be the Pittsburgh peanuts.

I would Connor Griffin, the pirates' phenom, was in the office and he stopped by the act and I asked him what he's, if he's going to do anything with his contract, because he signed like 120 million or something. He's like, "You're going to spend it." And he's like, "I'm going to spend it on myself." He's like, "That's an awesome answer." Yeah. Not. Yeah. Very good answer. Yeah. And if, now's the time to do it. If you're a $140 million extension, he's 19 years old.

You want to sign these guys before the next CBA. It's like you get a discount. Yep. Capp's going to go up. Capp goes up. Capp is up. They can't, they can't, they can't, they can't be.

Always go. I don't think that the cap can go down. Yeah, MLB. It's infinity.

Think about that. The cap is technically infinity. Yeah. The ceiling is the roof. Hey, did you say they should be called the Pittsburgh peanuts? Is that what you said peanuts? Peanut? Oh, why? Oh, okay. What's the owner's name? Mr. Knudding. Are the president, president? Yeah. Max, you hate those colors right now. Think about me, the penguins. Why, no, it is. Why, no, it is. Why, no, you're going to fucking hate all those colors.

“It does it big. Max, you hate the awesome. Yeah. You should love workers because they eat penguins.”

Yeah. Yeah. Only some of them. Yeah. Other ones he calls me. He calls me. Oh, what about Malcolm? He can't still be on the team.

I don't think she knows on the team is right and wouldn't really, so I nailed that.

He's very, very much on the team. He's 100% like 90, right? I have like a whole video of OV. I know that all can playing with their sons when, like, before the last game, they were just playing full on hockey in his hallway in his house. Is Lufler? Luflery? Nope. He's gone. Yeah. I don't know about Mark Andre Flurry. Yeah, the guy that he retired from.

My friend, Jess is mad at her guy best friend Mike because he's hooking up again with Bertha. A girl just used to be friends with who previously caused a whole chaotic scene at the bar Mike works out on Thursdays. Back in January, Bertha showed up alone, blackout drunk, made a spectacle knocking things over, calling Mike or soulmate chasing him into the bathroom. He insulted me out of nowhere and Mike did absolutely nothing to shut it down. Then, still went home with her.

Afterwards, Bertha went through his phone, read private messages, including with Jess, spiraled and everything blew up. So they stopped talking. She littered DM me. Actually,

“she didn't remember anything calling herself a girl's girl, which doesn't exactly match the”

performance. Jess cut Bertha off because of her behavior, but now Mike is back hooking up with her again, which is why Jess is upset. Okay, so this is real. This sounds to me. There's no fucking way if someone said, that's this is a movie. It sounds to me like it might be the plot of a movie or some reality show. No one's named Bertha. I'm sorry. I might just say Bertha, don't you come around here anymore. Can we just acknowledge that? No one's named Bertha. What is Bertha's short

for? Bertha'll remove? Bertha. It's actually Sarah. Yeah, okay, so if this is true, it sounds like the person that wrote this has been a little bit of a hate around Bertha. Yeah. So just because Bertha comes in like a hurricane, it probably call her Hurricane Bertha. She rolls in the bar. She doesn't take any prisoners and she ends up sucking face with Mike the bartender. Sounds like this person just jealous. Oh, Bertha. Huh, Bertha and Alberta. Alberta. That's just,

that's just, it's provinces. That's Canada. Yeah. By the way, I can't even, someone asked me

“another, I think it was chaps as like name the provinces. It couldn't get like I got like four.”

There's, uh, Ontario. Ontario. There's, uh, in a pack. Come back. Come back. Vancouver. Uh, Newfoundland. Toronto. Yeah. There's Bertha. Bertha. British Columbia. British Columbia. Northwest Territory. Sure. There's 13. Uh, France. Uh, none of it. No, none of it. No, none of it. The one, that's the one that's all the islands and icebergs and shit. When a peg? I think it's a city. Yeah. I think that's in Saskatchewan. Okay. Sunnyvale. Oh, eight. No. Newfoundland's not.

They don't know. Newfoundland and Labrador. It's Alberta, British Columbia. Manitoba. We didn't get that. Well, Newbrunswick. We didn't get that one. Newfoundland and Labrador. We got that Northwest Territory.

You con. We didn't pretty good. Yeah. That's not good. Yeah. That's, that's honestly the best

that Americans can do. Also, we don't need to. So are we, so are we rock if they want us to learn the different provinces, they should all get sports teams. Yeah. Then we'll figure it out. Yeah. Probably some sick ass lighthouse is up there, too. Oh, yeah. Okay. Next one. This one's, this one's tough. Do you have anything else to add about Bertha? No. That's my piece. No. Chrissy, do you think you're. Yeah. Get it. Get it. Uh, a high big daddy cat. What's up, Eric? Hancolicious. Maximus and good boy Zach.

Oh, where's memes? Where's the fucking, uh, the 11th hole? Bitch ass memes.

Uh, what a 18th hole. 18th hole. How do you say 18th hole? No, it said said period and bitch ass memes.

18th hole is the one that Tiger crashed his car on. Yeah. Yeah. There's a trend where a lot of gay guys are going to, they're pushing. Yeah. The 18th pussy. Yeah. My boyfriend listed as your show every time and episode comes out and ever since you started streaming on Netflix, it's all he watches when he comes home from work. Love that shout out that guy. This is now like it's complicated. Oh, I can't watch my mom talk girls housewives or anything because he's so adamant on watching you on TV

rather than listening in the car. Got it. We have one TV in the living room and with it being the

“biggest TV in the house, I think it's unfair to use it to watch a podcast rather than watch my”

shows. Whoa. Wow. Can I do this? Whoa. That he should go back to listening to your pod and

the, whoa. I think we need to just take on a, it's a valid point that she's making. I think that if this person's having this issue, then there's probably, um, a few thousand couples that are having similar, uh, disagreements at home about what to watch on their television, we just need to put in a segment where we do mom talk. Yeah. How's what I've talked. I, listen, what worth, we're, we get, we should get the same respect as a TV show. Come on, we put, we're on Netflix,

hours, multiple hours in doing this idiot jazz. You think we prep, we don't prep, we're in the union. We are, are we in the union? What union? Podcasts. The army? Podcasts was union. Which side would you know? Oh, the north? Which side would you thought on? Which, what war? That's a good, good question, a good question hack. Whatever one. I'd fight for, uh, I've had to say those thing about game and thrones and, you know, John, John Snow, but they were the south.

Oh, okay. So you talked that quite. What war? Let's say the, in game with thrones, I would have fought, I would have fought against the Lannisters. Uh, French Indian war. I don't know.

“I don't know anything about that. What about the war on drugs? Is that a France versus India?”

No, but it's good. It's good that you have said, yeah, the war on drugs. Which side, I think I'm on the drug side. Regan was actually, he fucked everything up. Ronald Reagan, Reagan, Reagan. That was Jack Nicklaus. That was Hank's Jack Nicklaus. I mean, it's spelled that like, how does Ronald Reagan? I mean, everybody knows that's Ronald Reagan. Uh, how do you, how do you spell it's also not spelled? It's spelled Reagan. Ronald Reagan. I have a friend named Reagan, shout out Reagan. Uh, Hank,

but no, you and I, we serve together in the war on drugs. Yeah. And we won. I think, I think we won. I think every war that I've taken part in, I think I've won. Um, War on Christmas. Um, I won that one, defending Christmas. We're saying it again. Oh, yeah. Uh, War on drugs.

“Massive dub. Yeah. Reagan, bad guy. And it's I Reagan. All right. Cool. Yeah. And in what way?”

Didn't he just like pop, you know, he, he, he fake the war on drugs, but that was actually like sending drugs into the ecosystem. He fucked a lot of people up. He had a, a meth lab in the West Wing. That's very exactly. Yeah. Well, him, yeah, Nixon, Nixon also. All right. Last one. Uh, we know PFT can't shoot a one tenet. The masters, but he for sure can shoot as much as he wants on this pussy. Oh, fucking callback King right there. That was good. Hey, more like PFT commenter.

That was fucking good, dude. Whoa. My microphone. Oh, he said, we got to get news. Have you guys? Taste shaking his head. He's rolled his eyes off. It's not in the butt. I just want to say something. It's not in Hanksburg. And we could say no. What if maybe sometime this summer,

Do this and then you're like, Oh, I wonder. That's actually not at all. No, it's not. I can tell you exactly what it is.

I'll tell you what it is. My Mike stand breaks. We can think of it like stand. Every time I lean back in my chair, 17 things fall on my head. Yeah, these shelves are not stable. The shelves, the shelves are bad. I along with it with knocking his arm in the head on that show. We can get new shelves. It'll be cool. We had colored microphone covers.

“Pops, different. I think, I think the, I don't know if you could deal with new stuff. We've been in the studio for”

what three years now. Like what? I just some new every now and then you do a remodeling. Yeah, I agree. What? Why are you shaking your head? Well, how do we get that? How do we get our little R Kelly TV working? Why? I don't know. That thing is the funniest thing ever.

I don't think anyone's listening or watching even knows what I'm talking about, but there is a size like 15 inch TV that's just above the studio that makes no sense.

And by the way, the meme of R Kelly watching on a small TV is what he's referring to. Yeah, and the final. Yeah. So, no, I'm in. I'm down. So why are you shaking your head? I think you're fucking head. That's, this is a bit of theme. I mean, where we're 10 years in this has been that you do this often. What? Or like, you just randomly just like, let's just remodel. I think the remodel, by the way, is not like a crazy remodel. It's literally get things that don't fall on our heads and fix the microphones.

Bring in real shelves. Real shelves. I don't know what that means. Well, real shelves. I see that. When I go like that. Whoa, whoa. Things are going to fall down. See? It's going to fall. Everything could have fallen. It could have been like that. Now my shelves and remodeling are two different things. It's a guy remodel. So, replacing the shelves is remodeling. What do you mean? It's actually not. It's a few weeks at all. But like hypothetically hypothetically, if you were like at your house and you bumped into the shelf, would things not fall off?

I fucking throw that shelf in the trash. No, I do with a gun. Because I got I got shelves in my house for men. Yeah, we have pussy shelves.

“Yeah. You just need to maybe move you guys up. It's not maybe. Who have you shelf shopping behind where your guys seats are?”

Where you guys are just thrown like so much shit. Okay. All right. Why don't you shut the fuck up? I need all of this stuff. We're talking about the shelves, Hank, and you're distracting. This bat. This putter cover. That's a sick putter cover. This trophy. I want the heartland trophy. All this shit. This comes jacket. Sick comes jacket. Yeah, extra small. Hank, no way that. There's also what about you, PFT. What about me? What about me? This does fuck you. What about me, Hank? You have a mountain. I got I got a pile. Yeah, I got a pile. We're not talking about my pile.

Was re-modeled your pile. No, the boss got those for me. That's a nice shit. Hey bitch. Oh, look. What is? Oh, it's a towel from the playoffs. Fuck yeah.

I said, I mean, I took this, can you check it off after the playoffs? I never would have gone.

What's that jacket? My pile. Great jacket. Perfect, Hank. Yeah. Look, you got, look. Oh, look. Found. Another Hank doll. Oh, nice. Yeah, it's down there. Look, this big one. Put, put, put, put the cat. Meet that. Got my hat with every NFL team on it. My dog was. Oh, so shout out to you, so sorry. Our Mexican football team gonna need this. My dog was big on the Hank toy yesterday, and then she pissed on my dadville. He's last night. Yeah, fuck yeah.

I don't know. Oh, this one. My ear wouldn't have popped you. My ear wouldn't have popped up. Yeah, I got the fucking the ear. Sorry, you're right. I've also got my shirt with all the NFL team logos on it. Oh, nice. This is, this is important shit that we need that you, you want us to just throw it. These are some bitch-made shelves. Whoever decided to buy these shelves, I'd like to know their name. I just can't, now that's the, that's the one I can't get over. Zack football guy. Checkmark.

“In a course guy? No checkmark. It's good shirt. There no one you might need. What shelves could we put up?”

That, like, they're spucking shelves. Yeah, some solid shelf, solid shelf. It is solid. It's holding all your shit. Hank, I don't do that. See the Pope? He's got no fucking head. And he's week on crime. 'Cause you keep running into this house. Hank doesn't get Hank, you wouldn't understand. You don't get Hank. Hank's anti-reg in anti-pop. Fuck, your Pope is week on crime. The Pope has been many people with saying that. He's week on the border.

What a quote. What a quote. Okay. Yeah, good show boys, numbers. Three, 56. Yeah, we could just move everything up.

No, we can't move everything. Hank doesn't want to see us happy, me?

“'Cause we need. I'm going to go with, uh, I'll go with 69. Happy birthday to that gorilla.”

58. I'll go with 23. 24. 17. All in the US Sundup? 82. All in the US Sundup? You Sundup? Give us a little word on the song. Word on the sick. Oh no, you already played. The future's bright. The future's bright for the feeding sun. Oh, my Booge is the fucking truth. What if you live a book or certified, uh, better say, jailing green, uh, Bill Brooks? Oh, uh, Bill Brooks is a game. Better say his name.

Got a bully. Oh, you guys, uh, my, my little walk. Colton, you better say his name. Oh,

calling gloves. Thank you. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go. The goat. Colin Gillespie. Oh, we're just not going to talk about. Not going to talk about grace now. You just get the number. 22. Oh, let's see one more. You got it? No, big head. At 23. 23. 23. So close.

“I should pick one. I think 11. Three. You can't change.”

Unless you want to. No. I think change. 60 seven.

Oh, 60 seven. Happy birthday to, uh, Antonio Cromarty and sexy red.

No, I saw sexy red at the, uh, Eagle Super Bowl celebration. Did you miss any of my love Monday? Of course not. Chief, Mikey bets. I did miss. Mikey bets can front in me. He can front in me yesterday when I walked into the office and he said, you forgot my birthday. Yeah. I said, I'm sorry, Mikey. Happy birthday. He's like, no, that's too late. And I said, yeah, you're right. I do respect. It was also Chief's birthday.

“He's also Chief's 40th birthday. It's tough because when you got a big boy like Bryn walk,”

he sees takes up all the stuff. He sucks up all the birthday. Yeah. He does. He's like Kirby. He's birthday. He becomes 100% birthday. And that's all he did yesterday. He's shaking that cake around everywhere. One giant birth. Um, so yeah, happy, happy, belated birthday to Mikey bets even though it doesn't mean anything. I'll get you next year. And then, and then Chief, I probably won't. I thought you have the, the directory of people that work here. It's behind me. He's the easiest. Yeah, he just doesn't like,

no, because I don't like to have my seeds. You're saying Chiefs behind the scenes? I'm Mikey bets. I didn't say Chief. Mikey bets is content, brother. He's half and half. Yeah, no, I combo. He could do some content, but like his piece of the system behind the scenes. He has a lot of this content, but like, he's in the system. If you're saying it's behind the scenes, well, he doesn't. He's in the system. He didn't opt into my behind the scenes birthday spreadsheet.

I love Mikey bets. Happy birthday, Mikey bets. Happy birthday, Chief. Might be too late. Really happy birthday to to all of all you guys. And everyone who's got a birthday. And anyone, yeah, all the people out there. Future and past that I was saying. But seriously, right now what you guys are doing is very mean to Antonio Cromarty and Sexy Red, his birthday it is today. Also, happy birthday to the Washington

Commander's New Jersey Center coming out. Oh, nice. On the 15th. Nice. So we are turning things around the D.C. Nice. Love you guys. Chances for Tom Ly. I bet they'd be a big >> Come on, dear team. >> Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

>> I'm not a good thing we got to tell you. I'm a sexy red. I'm not just a fucking guy that we love and it's not always. I'm a field. A for 14th. Great guy. So it's right now. It's not the 15th when the show comes out. Well, actually this show could come out. We taped it. Come out on the fourth. When we put the show out if I had said a birthday that was not on the day. We all remember what happened to Frank. I get chewed out. The show will be on April 14th. Happy birthday to Baker Mayfield. Thanks, I have birthday bake. Love you guys.

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