Talking Football With Mike Florio, Bills New Stadium And HoF Speeches + Mt Rushmore Of Masculine Foods

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We're sent it by draft kings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, August 10th and boys. We're so close to football. Being back football's back. No, it's already back. It's back. It was the best hall of fame game ever. Yeah. People. I did have. I did see one of the best preseason game ever. I did see one straight tweet that made me laugh. Very hard. One die hard at WL was like, how did you guys do a choose your own adventure for the best hall of fame game ever? And I'm going to say, I'm sorry. I apologize to the audience. We thought if there's ever a

game that we could, you know, record before, we're about to be in football season where we're here pretty much every hour. We're like, hey, this this Panthers Cardinals game, we can take this one off. We can just choose your own boy will rebroad. Back game rock. Yes. King is him. Listen, and also injured now. If it wasn't hands can't, well, like Carson back took the world by storm. Yeah. Carson back was the best preseason quarterback ever seen and then immediately passed the torch to Haines King. Who let a great

comeback drive at the very end. Yeah. What a great game. Football was completely back. The field looked awesome. The logos looked awesome. The coaches looked awesome. My team had a little personality up in the booth. Mike Tom and you out. Mike Tom and like cracking a few jokes. We're going to get so some more Mike Tom was talking about Mike Tom and a second. But he, he shocked me. I'll be

awesome. Mike Tom and when you made the transition to the booth, I was like, he's never been to

me a TV guy. He's always been a guy that I'm sure be a great football coach, great inside a locker room. But he was like happy. He was loose. He was telling jokes. Yeah. It was a good broadcast overall. Like I, I legitimately loved the Hall of Fame game. Yeah. It was great. The Hall of Fame speeches. I saw some clips of it. Adam Vinitary. He was like, he was doing a roast. He was having fun talking about it. Pat McFey holding his balls. Yeah. Roasting Jordan, which I didn't like that. Roasting.

“Yeah. Bellow to that clip, Hank. I did not. Oh, yeah. I think it's not. It was not nice. I know”

when you go to the end. To the Hall of Fame, you don't go as a team. Like, you don't, it's not like

clearly a cult. Like, he was wearing Jimmer's tie. He was talking about the cults the

“entire time. He's roasted that. I was making fun of Bella check. He, the, the interior of his”

mind is, is a cult. Can we pull, Max, he pulled the Adam Vinitary speech where he roasted Bella check. He's, he's struggling. Max, Max. Well, I got, I got curious about how many seasons he played in both of them. Let's, let's give Max a little grace today. He had a travel day from hell. Both are not great. Not great. Hank, and Max had travel days from hell. No one cares about a bad travel. They were here. Yeah. Yeah. We're here. We're here. Uh, okay. Here it is. Hank, so you can hear

for the first time. Tell us your thoughts. I would repeat those last few statements about Coach

Bill Bella check as well. Thank you for demanding excellence every single day. Your preparation, discipline, and attention to detail shaped far more than my football career. Very nice. Fortunately, Bill couldn't make it here today. There's a lot going on at UNC right now. He may be on a recruiting trip right now looking for the next Lawrence Taylor. I thought it was because training camp had already started, but in truth, it's because he's judging that's girlfriend's cheerleading competition. He's

not judging. That's, that's just not true. That's he could tell that he's he's supporting his girlfriend's cheerleading competition. You could tell that Terry was a little nervous at lying because he kind of stumbled over. He's like, oh, shit. Should I really do this? Yeah. He'd been, he'd been rehearsed that one. He felt good about it. Uh, and this is the hall theme that Bella check should be it. He should be giving a speech. That's yeah. That's bullshit. That's true. This is, this is the year that he,

he should have been in. So next year, I was looking at the list for next year. It's going to be is it Brady and Bella check? Let's see. No, I don't think so. Okay. I don't know. All the years blend together. Yeah, but it, it's not a good time class. 2020. Let's see. Okay. Max, he pulled up Rothsburger, Adrian Peterson, Gronk, Richard Sherman, Antonio Brown, damn, Bill Bella check. Yeah. That is, I'm going to predict that Antonio Brown gets left out. And he, he is a Hall of Famer

receiver. Yeah, he probably will get left out this one. Let's go around. But yeah, that's a, that's a stud class right there. And Antonio Brown speech will be must watch. Oh, my god. Yeah. That one.

That will be incredible. Yeah. Mr. Brown, we need you to sit for your bus

Oh, man. Okay. I got you. Yeah. Okay. The, the other news. So PFT. Mm-hmm. Every

“tonsil injured. We, we talked about this on, I think, Friday show like, yeah. There is nothing”

cooler than training camp injuries. It just sucks. Turn injuries off, get us to the season. What was going through your mind when you got the news? I saw the video. It was like, I don't know who took the video, but it was the greatest cross-field zoom in on like a T9 cell phone. It was taken on motor, motor roller, razor, circa 2002, I think. And then I had to study the pixels of that to figure out whether it was a stinger, a dislocation, a bicep, or as it turned out

to be a tricep, which sucks. So he's out probably for the year. I know people are saying he's out for a long time. If you're an offensive tackle and you tear your tricep, you're, you're pretty much done for the year. Yeah. It doesn't, that's a pretty important muscle to use at that position. So

it sucks because we, we paid the guy, we traded a lot for him. He's a great player. He's always like

top five offensive tackle in the league. So that sucks. The good news is we do a Brandon Coleman, who's been moved around a lot. Brandon Coleman was the left tackle when we made it to the NFC championship game. So he's, he's a capable backup. And then we've got, obviously, Connerly, the first round picked from Oregon. On the other side, we might move him to left tackle. And then Brandon Coleman, I don't know what we're going to do. There's also a chance that we just

hit somebody else up. I got a question, be like, hey, I, I, I, I would like to see Taylor, Decker, get a call. I feel like he's itching for an invite. We got some cap space. Let's make it work.

“I got a question for you. What? And you, would you say on Twitter about that? Yeah, about what?”

You're, you're, you're making proposals that I don't think you can, like it. Why? Oner. Why? Why not? You said on Twitter. You said Decker come to DC. I'll give you my Al Camino. Yeah. Oh. What happens if the wizards don't make the play? I said it's all up for negotiation, including the Al Camino. So if you want the Al Camino to, to go to Taylor, I know that you're listed a part of my take.

I, if you want the Al Camino, it's yours. And then it'll be just alone through the season. And then when it's time for hang to get it, the widgets don't make the playoffs. All hand cast to do is go to your house. And be like, hey, I'm here to pick up the Al Camino. And I'm sure you'll give it right to him. I think Hank's right, though. I don't think that the Al Camino is tied up in a pet right now. Well, if we want to play that game, the Al Camino is kind of promised to Jaden Daniels.

Yeah. So you have your habitual just Al Camino, Kiverr. Oh, yeah. It's called football team giving.

Jaden Daniels never accepted the Al Camino. But if you want to, it's his. He has to

tie it up. But, but Hank accepted the, the Al Camino. He's going to know that. He's put my body in the back. He's got the balls of the Al Camino. And I just said that it will be on loan with Mr. Decker if he wants it. That's only if he wants it. By the way, he hasn't accepted it yet. Okay, we're a long way away from that. It can be on loan form as an enticement to to go to the Washington Commanders. And then at the end of the year, if we, you know, April comes around and the

Wizards haven't reached a one through eight feet in the east, then Hank, you just go to his house and be like, yes, Mr. Decker, I'm here to pick up my car from you. I thought you would have to go

“again. Yeah, you'd have to get it. Okay, I'll go get the car. Deal. But I think the Al Camino”

is spoken for as of right now. But I'd like to remind you guys again, this is, we're a long way away from that. Of course. But it's still, it's, it's, it's, uh, you, you, you put it up into us a ponds. Yeah, it's, you're doing a ponds. It's, you know, put, you, it's body, you know, you're, you know, we're an escrow. It's not ponds, it's, it's escrow. Yes, we get to put it in, you get to put down your down payment, be like, hey, I'm good for this. But I, listen, I said it, and Hank, you can understand this.

I wasn't thinking clearly when I said it. I got bad news about Larry McDonald's, so I just started to panic. I panicked. I lash out and I'm just trying to, I initially reached out to Trent Williams. It was a panic. And I was like, hey, man, if you want to get away from the substation, come on back home. Well, I don't think he actually needs a car. He does need a car. Yeah, that's not paying his Porsche payments. Yeah, he got a, he had a Porsche 2021

allegedly didn't make a payment on it. No, he made two payments. Two payments. They didn't, then missed the next 240. And so he owes hundreds of thousands off of the car. That feels like he just didn't get the bill. I, yeah, it cuts into the wrong house. Yeah, maybe his car that got a new car. The car that was set up for. Well, it's, it's like, uh, the auto payment auto

“payment that Steven Chey got his car repossessed on. Yeah. Remember that? I'm, uh, I was just”

lashing out, Hank. I was casting a wide net. When you have a guy that important go down Trent, can't you just want, I needed something to fill that hole. Yeah, he wanted to just, he, he's a, I need a batch. I need a big guy to fill that hole. There. Man of action. Okay, so that, yeah, that sucks. So my question for you, and this is a debate that it's a shitty, no one likes training camp injuries. They all fucking suck. Is there anything to be said?

I was thinking about this. I don't know why, but like, for it to be an injury that was most likely going to happen at some point versus a free injury. Like a one-on-one pastoral injury, yeah, feels like you know when someone like Terzer AC L or like, you know what, that was going to happen. Like their, their knee was weak or something where it's like, I can, again, they all suck. But in a weird twisted way as, as fans, we all do this logic where you're like,

all right, at least it wasn't like the, the practice was too hard. And someone got hurt because the coach was going too hard. It was just a one-on-one drill, where's Tricep popped.

“And it was going to pop eventually. I don't know if it was going to pop eventually. I think it,”

it's like football's a weird sport where you put yourself in your body into a lot of different positions. And then your, the guy that you're going up against it in a lot of different positions. And just like it lines up wrong and then snap. I mean, tonsils been a tough player. He's been a surgeon for a long time. So I don't know that you could say it was going to happen. He was, but the, the, the coat that I went through first and foremost was, well, then I was like, at least have an

El Camino to give away to a guy to fill a spot here. And then second, I was like, well, maybe that just

means that Daphé always really strong. And in that one-on-one rep, it's like he's going to be tearing.

If he's tearing, Larry, Larry, Larry, tonsils pack or his Tricep. Imagine how many other guys Tricep's going to tear during the regular season. Sure. On the other team. So, and then the third thing I thought was, I'd rather it be now than it be like week one. Oh, for sure. Because if it's now, we can try to fit somebody in. We can try to bring somebody else into camp. Or we can figure out what we want to do with the guys that we already have and get them meaningful reps with the first team at that

position and get them ready to go for the regular season. And yeah, I mean, Brandon Coleman, he's a decent player. He played pretty well for us in 2024, but he's not like a difference maker. I'm going to own an entire side of the line like tonsils was. See, I do the stupid, like, whenever there's an injury, I'm like, if it's like someone gets hit and like, or like a

late hit or a blind side hit and like fuck this, this never should have happened where it's like

if someone tears something, you're like, all right, their body was probably going to tear it eventually. That's where I just tell myself, just to try to cope where you're like, it was going to happen eventually. It just happened. What are you going to do? Yeah, I know it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make it, but none of this makes sense when you're trying to to cope with any type of injury. It sucks. A good thing about David Blau's offense is you can move guys around.

That's it. I just tell myself that I have no idea if that's even remotely

It's built to absorb injuries like this. Shouldn't this name be Bluck?

“Did Chuck change the entire pronunciation? Yes, should be David Bluck. I think we should”

call David Bluck. David Bluck? Yeah. Yeah. Bluck the Bluck Coast. We're going to block you up. Yeah. Teddy Bridgewater retired. Yep. Also Teddy Bridgewater still playing football. Didn't realize that. Feel like you retired and then came back. Well, yeah, he went to go coach football like high school football and then he got in trouble for paying for Uber rides. Yeah. That's son of a bitch. And then he came back to the NFL. Yeah. And then the bills debuted their new

stadium, which I listen. I think the people of Buffalo take great pride in the bills in their stadium, but I did laugh. I think it was part of partly because it was like an algorithm where I

clicked on one tweet. But I saw so many things online today that essentially was like the entire

bill's mafia were just building inspectors showing up to the new stadium. Like one guy like saw like a little copper wiring under the cement. He's like, that's our album. Yeah. Like it. And then there's another guy who is who is jiggling the seats in the cup holders. There are a couple of structured views that suck. You know what I'll say that that is that's a that's a fair. I don't know how you could build a stadium with zero obstructed views. But a couple of whom are like that makes no sense.

The ones with the the the the stairs right front like what you could have figured that one out. But jumbo trons also just it's just a tron. I actually like it's not a tron. No, but Hank's

“right. You can't call that a jumbo tron. I put can I say that I I think that's actually better”

because when you go to some of these new stadiums all you do is watch the jumbo tron and nothing field that I don't know if they did this on purpose. But I like the fact that it's not taking like like the into it dome where the clippers play or so far or Jerry's world where you show up and you you end up watching the jumbo tron more than you watch the actual field. I kind of like that they didn't do that. Again, I don't know if that was on purpose. If they were like,

hey, maybe people will just spin zone this. But I saw it and I was like, you know what? That's fine. Watch the game. I think all the dactronics money went to cry. So if they didn't have enough left over, but I think that yeah, I I don't hate the small jumbo trons. I kind of agree with that take. I agree with the fact that sometimes it's too much of a distraction. But Hank's right. It shouldn't be called a jumbo tron. No, it's a tron. Just trying to see me. I also I like the guys that were going

around and they were it was like Dwight's route when he goes on the tour of the of who was that or friend Mike Wallace's house? It might have been that he walks around in David Wallace. David Wallace and just inspecting the house for all the stuff. There were some things that you see in these pictures from Bill's Mafia that are not actually taken from seats. They're taking from parts of the stadium where it's not fair. Where if you stood there, this would be an obstruction. Now granted,

there are also some obstructed view seats and that does suck. I'm pretty sure they're listed on the ticket. As long as they're listed, obstructed view. Yeah, you go to regularly and there's there's a I and I get it, regularly is very, very old in this brand new. But I most obstructed view seats say it when you buy it. If they didn't say it, then that's bullshit, then you have every right to be upset. The stairs thing was weird. I didn't fully understand that. If you're, but

I also did see, here's another plus. The leg space was insane. It looked like you didn't have to

stand up, so one came back and forth for a beer. It's really incredible. I think it's like shovel

length. Yeah. So if it does snow, then when they bring Bill's Mafia in there to just clean the stadium out, they can just take it once no shovel and just go straight down the aisle. Yeah. It looked like cool stadium. I like to squeeze this guy. That guy Andrew Buffalo Woody. Shout out that guy. He was squeezing it. He was hitting the he was like seats on his loud as they used to be, but they're comfortable. Yeah. I like it a lot. I think it's also guess what? It's an outdoor

stadium. Yes. And I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt because it does not look like every other stadium. And I'm happy we still have someone still playing football outside. Yeah,

“that's what I was going to say is when this stadium debuts to me at the very least, you can say”

the bills have bought us 30 years of at least having one stadium that's going to be outside and the NFL. And their uniforms look just as bad as we thought. There were there were way worse than I thought crazy. I thought I'd get over it. I thought I was being soft when I saw those uniforms. No, it's like who cares? But then I saw Josh running out on the field and it looked really bad. Yeah. It looked like a, it looked like the team that the Pittsburgh team was playing against

in the Batman movie. Yeah. No pissed troughs either. Last one's here, fully operational. That is, that makes me sad. The bills as a fan base are a pissed trough fan base. Like they are. The Browns are a pissed trough fan base. There are certain fan bases are like you need it so that you can have as many dudes as possible all pissing in one hole. That's just what they do. So that was a miss by them. I actually think they should have like a handicap bathroom

bills mafia. And you don't even have to build a trough. It could just be a room with a, with just

“a drain in the middle. I think all you need is you just need a ditch against a wall. That's fine,”

too. Yeah. But yeah, there are pissed trough fan base and it sucks that they took them away. We

don't need a million because it also, it's, it just takes longer. You're in those take longer.

It's just all take longer. Piss troughs. You're in it out. Okay. What other, what other store, let me do, let me do our DK read real quick and then we'll see if we have any other stories before we get to who's back. We're right at that point where it's like, just get us the football. Yeah, football is just it's here. Yeah. This summer, whatever you're watching baseball, golf, soccer, racing, draft Kings has you covered for every single moment of it. The draft Kings Sports

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understand what they do, but they just always have. It's like someone, it's really just

Caitlin Clark and Sophie coming him. They're getting beat up at some point over the weekend every weekend and it just gets us going again with ridiculous debates back and forth. Yeah, it's a sports league that I think 99 percent of the attention that's paid to it is now paid by people that don't watch the sports league. That's always a good combination. And Sophie coming him got jacked up. She got close line. Kurt Rambus.

The maybe the worst part was the reaction from her coach. Easily. Stephanie White, who just can't seem to figure out anything she just doesn't ever say the right thing ever. She was trying to diffuse it, but she's doing it in the way. She's doing it in the show and I don't have their back. Yeah, she's throwing her own team on the bus. It doesn't matter what you truly think in that moment. You have to say you have to

say it's bush league. It's garbage. It's rubbish. It's not true. It's not true. They should throw

“out of the league. Kick her out of the league. That's that's what you have to say if you're the”

coach and for her to not have her teams back. And then to have her saying these things will Caitlin Clark is sitting there, just trying to figure out what the fuck do I need to do to just have a normal week in this league. I feel bad for her. I do because like everyone's lost their mind in all the Caitlin Clark discourse. She just wants to go out there and hit threes and that'd be that's what she's good at. And that's what I would like to see her doing. The coach said she's going

to compete and no one's going to walk in for an easy lay-up so I don't oppose the hard foul. It's crazy. She's sitting next to her and just put her head like head in her hands. Defend your players also and just canter freedom. Yeah. Yeah. That'll that'll end Royce White who's scared of airplanes. This will be a story. I'm sure in the next three weeks. Yeah. And as cancer and Royce White have declared for the WVA draft. Mm-hmm. Royce White. That's

Royce White. You couldn't get on an airplane, right? Yeah. I also don't think that Royce White has a great track record of being in the same room as women. Oh, okay. So maybe a whole locker room full might not be a great honor. I saw actually I did see that exchange with Robin Lopez. Yeah. He had him pretty. Yeah. He had him dead to write. He's got a he's got a wrap sheet. Okay. Other other stories. I don't even think this is a story but Michael Block just walked off the golf

course. Blocky. Did you see that? I did see this. What's his deal? He he showed a blade for his

“tea time. I think he was he was not going to make the cut. Okay. Show a blade for tea time. He”

he was in on a sponsor's exemption too. Which is his whole life. Which is tough. Yeah. Probably going to be tough to get another invite. He was like, you know, six shots outside the cut line. He bogged you down 12. So he was he was done and then he just he just left the course. Blocky. I don't hate it. Is there going to be like a Grand Horvath or Brian Brother apologizing for leaving that in? Probably not. I mean, no. I think that it's the senior tour. The probably

just going to be like we're not going to fight. We're done with the blocky show. Yeah. I think it's kind of messed up that they left it in though. God, this guy hits one big shot. He's just I love

it's like a bar graph and it's like hype is 90 out of 100. And talent is 10 out of 100. It's like,

who is this? That's Michael Block. He's also mad about the course conditions. I was he was he was he was locked. He was playing terrible blaming the course conditions. God it. And then just took his ball and went home. No, it's not. Of course. But the course was only bad for him. Hey, you left that part out. Yeah. I'm not the problem. It's every. We have to we have to start training my block with with more respect because I feel like we've taken a lot of shots on his name the last

couple weeks. He said he was he got he got a two stroke penalty for being late to his tea time. And on Instagram he said I was a couple seconds late to my tea time got caught up taking pictures from

volunteers. First time my career. He's got a little Marlon's man completely my fault. And I did tell

my playing partners I was with drawing. So he's saying he's drawing from what like he was going through the record. The reports are that he left and didn't tell anyone that he was leaving. He's saying he didn't in fact leave. And the only reason he was late was because he was taking pictures of volunteers. Ah, he was too good for the block. Man in the people. Man in the people. Oh, man. By the way, RIP Don Nelson. Yeah. That happened. He's the second leading second most wins of any NBA coach

“of all time. Yeah. And legend. I think I knew this, but Don Nelson is like retirement years.”

He's a weed farmer. He's a weed coffee and sugar farmer in Hawaii and was just would just watch would just hang out have poker games on. I got to find it because it was like in all time like this guy knew how to live and like finish his life correctly. Okay. Yeah. As of April 2018 Nelson lives in Maui where he has a farm to grow flowers, coffee and cannabis. He hosts local poker games celebrity such as Willie Nelson, Woody Harrelson, Owen Wilson. I know how far I've come from

being a hog farmer. Nelson said of his career. I've come a long, long way for being some country kid. I got in the fast lane and I stayed there a long time. I've done pretty well. All I can tell you is he's happy. He's in Maui drinking my ties and watching sunsets and whales. Life's good. Said his son Donnie. Yeah. Life well lived. Yeah. That's a hell of a way. It was great. They did an interview with them. I remember back in 2019 they said what are you doing? What are you doing with your

life now, Nellie? He said I've been smoking some pot. Yeah. I never smoked when I played a coach.

It's new to me. I grew a variety called Nellie Kush. It's not for sale. It's for personal use. You've got to treat it like a baby. Yeah. You got to have music for it. You got to bless it. It's a whole

“process. Yeah. He had a great post in B.A. Life. Also, um, he wouldn't chip each up as a player, right?”

I think with the Celtics. Yeah. Yeah. Great player. Better coach. Me, right. Oh, hang. Best hang. Great hang. Great hang. Did you guys also see Monteilles said that if they swapped him and stuff, they still would have won. No, didn't they get rid of him? Like he said if you switched me and stuff out with the team that won championships, it'd be the same thing. Well, that's a revisionist history. Yeah. I mean, sometimes you just got to say stuff. Monteilles

was a bucket, too. But he was. But then you say stuff like that and then everyone says that you stink. Yeah. Right. So you, you, you pick anyone else. Monteilles. Yeah. Just be like, yeah, I don't even know what. I'm trying to think like, what do you say there? Because yeah, he just said himself up to get absolutely grossed it. Yeah. Blocked it. It did. Roy's distance. Yeah. He put he just, he just set up some. He avoids this. I'm talking about that. Steph's three point shot. Yeah. He should have said,

if you swap me and Brandon Rush on the 2015 warriors, we still wouldn't want it. Yeah. And everyone be like, dude, that's so true. That's fantastic. Monteilles is a bucket. He's so fucking good. Unfortunately, he did the wrong thing and picked out the best shooter of all time. Okay. Let's do who's back. And then we have Mike Florio. And then we're going to do our Mount Rush for on the other side of Florio. We'll be on the road this week. By the way,

“we're going to do some podcasting on the road. Which is always fun. Is that you ready for megabit?”

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“I think I need to talk shit about you when you were gone. Really? No, I actually, I this might be”

the first time ever. I actually am trying I'm replaying. I think we just said we missed you.

Oh, I did say what was, uh, oh, on Wednesday show I said that you. I was here for Wednesday show. Well, you weren't here for the beginning of hard knocks. And I said that was when PFT's computer. Well, he was trying to compute from a flight simulator. It's a legitimate computer. I mean, and we cut out the, he actually cut out like six different times. It's a real, it's a real honest to get. That's a show. We had around those, but he kept on. I was on the plane. I was on the plane

in the group chat, like seeing just like it was like, oh, we're going to start. And then it was like, an hour and a half later, like, still going. I was like hoping that you were going to still be going when I landed. I was just going to pop on. It's up guys. Yeah, no, he would say like two senses that it would freeze. Zach. I don't want to throw Zach out of the bus, but he gave me all the specs for my new computer that I went out and bought. And so it's like brand new. How many computers

you have? You want to choose one you always use? I have one computer. Those are great specs.

The one I always use is now sub-doubt. Got it. That's, that's no one computer. But that one works. 100% user error, someone from the booth is saying back here that won't say it into the mic. Is that memes? memes? It wasn't me. I mean, personally, I was saying how does he have a sauna installed in this house and not a computer? I do have a computer. It's literally a computer. It's a full computer. Is it more deactivated? No, he didn't know. It is a 100% computer that could be too much

computer. It might be just a lot of computer. That's the thing is it might be too strong of a computer.

“The only thing I've done on that computer, I download flight sim and then I have Google Chrome”

and co-pilot. That's it. So I don't know. Did you fix it after? No, I need to get around to doing that. Yeah. I mean, actually, after I logged off, it stayed on for a while. So we might be back in business. But you weren't running any. No, check it before next. I know. So why? Obviously, it's going to stay on. I was, no, I was online. But the flight sim works. That's that. That's all that knows. Oh, no, nothing. No, that's what I'm saying. Like the computer, if I try to turn it on,

it gets like the way if you build the computer yourself. No, Zack and I, we talked, talk to the specs. But yeah, are you going to play with this? No, I will say the while we were in the call,

trying to diagnose the computer. He never cut out. So for like 35, 40 minutes, we were doing

like trying to diagnose the issue. Yeah. But it was working perfectly on the call. The way PFT is talking about it, it sounds like you told him what to buy. Listen, definitely this could definitely be my fault. But it did you tell him what to buy? I definitely pointed him in direction to some guys who know tech. Oh, Zack, how's your computer doing at home? Uh, we're, we're at just some open-heart surgery or back. Oh, wait. So your computer screen is the computer's broken. Why,

why can't you guys just have computers? No, I listen, I went out. I bought a very, very expensive top of the line new computer. And it's just, what was it's main purpose? It just fries. Is it main purpose is to game? No, to be my, my full-time home computer. Got it. Yeah. Zack, what's your computer is to game? Your, yeah. Other computer weren't, which I had the same one works for. Uh, it was, it was showing signs of Sloan down. I mean, it's what, six years old, seven years old? Yeah, like pre-COVID.

“I think it's pre-COVID. No, P-COVID, like two years in a COVID. That's P-COVID? Yeah.”

Are you and I had different COVID's? Like, that was, I mean, we were gaming. That's when I was games like that. Good, good, good, good, good. It's about six years old, not an old computer, but it was, it was Sloan down. Got a new one. No. It would be the answer to all my problems. I haven't even looked at porn on that computer. And it's already fried. Do you look at porn on the computer? I have looked at porn on the computer. Yeah. Hand up, you'd do porn in the flights him?

No, no. That's sick. I'm, I'm on team that. I don't, I don't know. Like I said, I haven't looked porn even on this computer. Speaking of porn, what, can we talk about this lotion, Bicat? Yeah, that's for my new tattoo. I got Stella tattooed on. Oh, nice. Yeah. Sorry. Speaking of those, I was just looking at those computers. Yeah. No, there's a big bottle of lotion sitting right on my desk. I can understand why that would be confusing. If you missed a couple of questions. Very

care question. Very care question. Very care question. Every one's asking fair questions around. No, I'm a little, I'm a little nervous. I, I got a new tattoo and they were like,

to do after. And then I remembered I'm going to be like in a hundred degrees sun for the next

“four days. So, I've been extra lotioning. Worst for us. Yeah. You should go for sleep.”

Oh, you should get, you should get sunsleeves. No, see. Oh, yeah, that's, that's good one. Yeah. It's good. It's good. The other week, I got, you should become a sunsleeve guy. I got a, just one sleeve. Yeah. I have a fake tattoo sleeves that I got a couple of weeks ago, just for fun. And it's, yeah, you expect to rewind there? Yeah. What do you mean you just got it for fun? I was at the Jersey Shore with a group of friends. That's all you need. That's all you need to do. No,

I didn't get there. But we were going out to the casino for a little bit. And so they're like, hey, we should, we should get some tattoos sleeves. So we all rolled out with tattoos. That's fun.

You're at the shore that's all I need. It was fun. Yeah. All right, who's back the weekend?

On my legs back the week is holes. Oh. There was a Brazilian soccer player that scored a goal. He ran to the sideline. He jumped over like a little, little, little mini fence and did not realize there was like a massive hole. I don't know. 20 foot hole. Yeah. Right behind them and he just disappeared. I thought it was AI. It was one of those videos that seemed, it looked like Mario. So ridiculous. Well, the other thing that's real, but he literally looked like he jumped to his death.

Wrong video. Max, that's the the Uruguay soccer game that started today. But it's also great car crash. Yeah. Did you see the alternate angle? No. Yeah. It's like a staircase and he just jumped right into the staircase. He had no idea. That's not. Was he okay? I know. He was injured and the goal was disallowed. Oh, that's such. He should have done that. Yeah. The goal was disallowed. If you get injured selling and celebrating a goal, they should. It should stand. Whoops. Yeah. He's like Mario

going down one of the tubes. Yeah. Holds her back. WMB is back. Freedom was back and it's cancer, but we talked about that. Yep. All right. Good who's back to the weekend. Thank you. Great who's back to the weekend. My other who's back to the week. You have another is

“live golf. Oh, one heck. Did you not you missed the news last week?”

Do we not talk about it at length? No. After you left, there was more do tell. So live live announced that they officially have a new sponsor. And they said they're going to, but they didn't say who the sponsor was. They won't say it. They won't say it. And also it's a secret sponsor. And it really doesn't matter because they have to pay out everyone. We did kind of talk about it. Yeah, they pay out. But the day after there was more news directly from. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, the event this week was a huge success. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, not crazy. Uh, walkout room and saying they're still talking about it. Walking name in one is 9th event. Yeah. He's he's. Dude. It's just giving up shooting like plus 26. Well, it's a hard course. Yeah, it's a hard course. I mean, PJ. It's just kind of, you know, birdy fest 39. The show players are currently over par and walking name and shot 14 under which just shows how good he true is.

“We have a question. You have a question. I think if live was smart, they would invite Hank”

on tour. Oh, they did invite me. I think I'm going to go to, uh, there's an event in Indiana in a couple weeks. Now the four races reached out. No way, which one, which is the just the account, the team account? Is there, uh, they're going to be able to, you're going to be able to park like next to the team. Well, yeah. I mean, it's the four races there. They're, they're, they're, the four races are inviting me. It's going to be a red carpet. It's really their tour,

the four races. Is it have, have you always seen individual championship? It all comes

down to Indy. Yeah. Wow. Hank, have you thought about that? Well, like live golf's problem and probably the only problem they have is that the four races are just so popular and the other teams don't have that same name recognition and that same razzle dazzle at the east. I disagree. They've got the last race. You got the tour. Okay. It was in 23. Was that called tour? Okay. It's not torque. No, it's torque A. Did you never watch an event? I have not watched it.

Oh, whenever they talk about it. You, you caught me in the glory. I don't, I don't, I don't know the the announcers name, but like the main announcers, it's, it's torque A. Okay. Yeah, they got plenty of teams. The clicks. I'm just saying they have one team that's so liars. That's so popular. Like kids everywhere asking for four races merch. Are you going to wear all black for the funeral? No, I'm wearing all races. It's over. It's so low. Which one

is the ace of spades? Did they divide up by suit? I don't think so. Max? I don't care. I don't care. I didn't bring it up. I wasn't going to bring it up. Well, no, we were going to bring it up on Friday and then we decided to wait. We didn't bring it up Friday. If you were on a Friday,

have an agreement in place with the lead investor signed by the investor and to prove by the board,

to anchor the transaction and play a key role in supporting the path forward driven by and for the players. We're also seeing strong interest for more than a dozen additional parties. See, to obviously serve as minority investor. Domino, that sounds like they're having to beat, beat money guys off with a stick. Yeah, I mean, probably they tried to get into FIFA. They couldn't. And now what's the position right now? Neem just keeps saying that they should, they need to put Hank

actually on the tour. On the tour. Get him out of our hair. Yeah. Hank would be so bad. Yeah. I'm saying, but it would be fun. Viewer, I mean, they would get viewers. But we have to

do the only, I will release Hank from, from part of my take, but PFC, I get to negotiate with

live directly. Wet the beak. Hank, you'll be playing for $0 will be watching you for millions. Great. Yeah. Be awesome. I should get, if I can play a lefty, ready scramble, maybe. That would be, that would be awesome. True. If they're going to struggle for golfers,

“we got two right here on the lefty, ready scramble would be sick. Are you kidding me? You should”

get paid for, for another job of two people. Absolutely. Like, what man could you find that will do the work of two sides, Hank? Hank. Okay. My who's back the week. I got a couple, umpires. Yeah. Did you guys see Chris sale got ejected before the game even started today? Yeah.

Pravey, Yankee's game. It was awesome. So he was, so he was arguing with Dan Beleno, the crew chief,

the day before over a buck call, I believe. And the umpire crew was walking out before the game. And one of the umps just like turned to the, to the dugout and just fucking toss Chris sale. It was like, get out of here. Awesome. I love this. I want more of this. Also, uh, did you guys see that the since scuba got traded to the Dodgers? They're one in six and the Tigers are five and two. Tigers are going to make the playoffs after all that. Like, they're going to,

they're going to probably be in it, fighting tooth and nail to the end. Yep. They might not actually make the playoffs, but they're very much alive to make the playoffs, which is very funny after selling at the deadline. Um, but yeah, umpires are back. There was an awesome ejection. To be able to eject someone before the game starts, that's just, that's just such a power move. And then speaking of baseball, each row's back because he hit a bunch of home runs in the Mariners legends game,

which was sick. That's awesome. And the in the story goes, I, I had forgotten this, but

“each row said, and I believe him, he said that he could hit 40 home runs a season if he, if he,”

like, gave up being an average guy. And he's like, I have the pop. And there's like stories about him in BP hitting, like, mammoth home runs. But he was like, if I did that, I'd probably hit, like, 220, but I could hit 40 home runs. Just, I feel like he could still get out there and get on base. Yeah, just one of the best hitters of all time, if not best. Yeah. I feel like guys like him, Tony Gwin or IP, like that's a skill that you can do until you're 45. Mm-hmm. Uh,

okay, Zach, finish off. My who's back the week this week is going to be none other than Ben Simmons. Oh, gentleman. Did you see Ben Simmons make his return? No, in what fishing? Not fishing. This looks to be, look to be to me basketball court. Ben Simmons tarps off on the court, letting everybody know, grateful for where I've been proud of where I stand, ready for wherever this goes. Wow. This time, do we believe him? Big three. Maybe. I believe him that he's ready for wherever

this goes. Wait, do you think it goes where he's implying it goes? Probably not. Uh, somewhere where he's ready. He's still young, dude. And he was, he's tall. He can play every position. He looks happy. Probably every position. Yeah. Listen, I think I think he can still do it. I would like to see Ben Simmons take one last shot at it. I mean, look, that's an athlete. He's ready to go. That's him right there. Might not be him. No, that's. What? I might have looked. I might have

looked. I might have got got. Wait, what did you get? Would you get got by? I guess that is him. No, that's him. He looks ripped. He looks shorter than he was. Okay. So, so here's Ben Simmons.

“I want you back in the league. I think I think you can do it. You have to follow my one piece of”

advice. You just have to say, I've been wrong my entire life. I am actually right-handed. I'm sorry for trying to say that I was left-handed. It was a mental condition I was going

That'd be it. He does everything else. He does everything else right-handed. And he claims that he's

a lefty when he shoots. What? What if you, what if the Celtics got Ben Simmons? I'd be down. And then they beat the sixers. I think Ben Simmons, I think, still has got something in the tank. Would that just be like something in the tank? I go back to our conversation last week, but I want to come back in the sexiest. If you watch him, we need fish to be awesome. The guy fish is right-handed. He does everything right-handed. But for some reason, he's like, "No, I'm lefty."

Hank, did you see a clip from Eagle's training camp over the weekend? No. Two-year favorite people were together. Yeah. Big Dom. Yeah. And we'll bronze. Jaila Brown. Oh. Yeah. That makes sense. Jaila Brown saying all the right things. With Jaila Brown, there's also meeting with, with, uh, hurts.

Well, he just went to, he's saying it. Was he saying it? Well, he's saying it. Yeah, that makes sense.

“But what do you say? No, no, the all the right things. Oh, he, yeah. Oh, the, okay, I remember that.”

Zach, you got another who's back? How old are you? How old did you get? Did you guys also see, uh, the list of quite off-paper demands from 2010 resurculating? No. Well, we're the, no, they were, uh, this was like we're about to get God. Why? One-one partial ownership stake in the franchise. Okay. Uh, one-two. Maybe a private jet at disposal. Oh, this was his uncles. But via, yeah. Fair. This is his uncles.

Yeah. Up into the lakeers. Right. Yeah. Like this will be, when, when we, when Hank Hank negotiates with live, people will be able to take it out of context later and be like, "You see what Hank demanded from live?" But it actually was his uncles, PFT, a big cat negotiating with live. But is that because his uncles know he can't say it, so he'll say it for him? Hank, are you cool with me negotiating unlimited, uh,

Reese's peanut. Well, we already kind of have Reese's, unlimited, but like, extra unlimited. Yes. Okay. I'd like a new computer. I'd like an El Camino back up. And the PFT, I got any. Think it's PFT makes any promises to anyone else. On Friday was driving home from the course, and I was going down the highway, and there was a broken down El Camino that was being pushed to the side of the road that had blocked up traffic for about 15 minutes going back. I just rolled

by window, and I was like, "I'm sorry, brother." I've been there. I've been there. Yeah. I'd give you

“mind, but I already gave it to Taylor, Decker, Jane, Daniels, and Hank. Yeah. How's it running?”

Great. Thanks for asking. Throw. Actually, I drove it to Target this morning, and then when I walked out of Target, there were three different groups of, it was three different six-year-old guys that were just having a conversation about the El Camino standing around the El Camino. That's got to be the best feeling. It was great. You can't, yeah. Yeah. It's pretty good for you. It's welcome. Well, then I walk up and they asked me a question. I don't know the answer to.

Like, is that thing out of the 6.7, and I'm just like, "Yeah, sure does." Just say yes, so you've got to be confident. Yeah. You're damn right. It does, brother. Absolutely. All right. Good. Who's back? Do we miss anything? I think we got, I mean, Central College football to be back. Stubbing Bailey's back? Okay. How's so? He got arrested for fucking an arcade. Oh, down in Florida, although he claims there was no penetration.

So then just pants were off. So really free-stubbing Bailey. Yeah. Yeah. We're the sports calendar part where I saw the the Pop Darts click clip. That looks like an awesome sport. We're going to do that on after Dark. And then, Donk, did you guys see Donk? They're throwing like inflatable Donkies onto, well, looks like a bull's eye. I just need college football back. Yeah.

“And then I need an NFL back. I just needed so bad. I think the coach's pole came out. Yeah.”

Okay. So that's good. Yeah, we're close. But this was the first Saturday where I was like, man, it feels like we should be watching college football right now. Like, I really, really need it. I'm, I basically have used all my time to fight against Choyotani. And I think Choyotani's an

incredible player. But I am, I have had to, you know, turn my back on him for the rest of the year

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But Mike, we're so close. You can feel it. Let's start with the Hall of Fame game. Did you learn anything from the Hall of Fame game? Did you hear any buzz around the league? You're talking to people, you're shaking hands. How is the Hall of Fame game? We have a game itself. It's a glorified scrimmage in full pads and what Haines King did was impressive, but he's going against guys who, and I don't want to take anything away from their journey, but we know how this goes. There's

90 guys on the roster. 90. And this is going to be 53 by the end of this month. So a lot of these guys aren't good enough to play in the NFL. So I don't read anything into what happened. I saw some of the buzz coming out of the game that Carson Beck may be starting by the middle of the season, because he played well. There's no game planning. It's not the starting defense. Let's just enjoy it for what it is, but understand what it is. It's a preseason game. It's fun to watch because

football is back. It looks like real football. We just don't owe many of the guys. And we won't get to know many of the guys. So that's my caveat on the whole Hall of Fame game experience. But yeah, it was great to be on the field talking to different people, picking up some things. I had some reporting before the game about Aaron Donald's future. For example, I learned some more stuff today.

“I think he's coming back. And I think we met. We met. We may hear from him by Friday. Oh, it is”

coming back. If he decides to come back, that's the key. He's got to decide to come back. He's coming back. Come on. Let's stop the straight. He's coming back. He's going to be really good. The Rams are going to be loaded. I guess the only question I have is how much you can get paid. That's literally all I'm wondering. Because everything else I know he's coming back and he's going to be good. Well, and that's an issue that they're going to need to figure out, not just from a salary cap

standpoint, but from a cash standpoint. Every team has a budget. And to have a guy like Aaron Donald show up when you've already spent your budget, you're going to have to fill out some forms and genuine flag before certain orders to try to get the money necessary to get Aaron Donald. But I can't

imagine the Rams ownership, not ceasing this opportunity. But here's what's weird about it.

Okay. Aaron Donald's making this decision as to whether or not he can be Aaron Donald again. But unless he's hiring the equivalent of football sparring partners, he doesn't know how he's moving relative to everyone else. And Lawrence Taylor ultimately retired because he came off the field and said to build part of sales. Man, these young guys are fast and part of sales said, no, you slow down. And that's when Lawrence Taylor decided that's that. Aaron Donald's not going to know whether

he's slow down until he's back out. They're practicing with the team. But he's going to make his decision before he's in that space to find out. So it's kind of a strange cart before the horse.

30 to 40 snaps week one. If he's back in time to get ramped up. And yeah, it's going to make the Rams.

Like anything but going to the Super Bowl is going to be a disappointment for the Rams if he moves back. Yeah. Also, if I were him, I would come back week two that way. I don't have to fly all the way to Australia. And then come back. The two teams taking very different approaches to that trip. The 49ers getting there a week early. What's behind McFey's decision? We were talking about it last week. To me, it sounds like he listened to a podcast about sleep. And he has

“he has got an edge in terms of like he's hacked how much you have to sleep to adjust to a jet lag.”

So they're going to try to power through it. They're just going to go down there, pretend that time zones don't exist. What have you heard about the decision? Why? They're going to do that. You know, it's funny. And the thing about consulting with experts and I learned this when I was practicing law, you can find an expert to support pretty much any conclusion that you want. Yep. I'm assuming they, hey, found an expert who told them, hey, it's better to just barren

storm in, show up the day before, leave the day after. And I guess on one level, if you never

change your clock. And if you never accept the fact that you're in a different time zone and that it's still a night game late afternoon game, LA time, you can pull that off. But there's still the wear and tear of the travel that you have to recover from. I mean, sitting or playing for all those hours, it takes a little while to spring back from that. But that seems to be what they're going to do. McVey was asked about it in a press conference the other day. And he refused to talk about it.

And he rarely refuses to talk about anything. And I don't know whether he hasn't talked to the team about it yet, whether he's concerned. They're going to be grumpy about the plan. But yeah, it's two very different approaches. And of course, whoever wins or loses the game,

“someone's going to say, well, it's, it's because of the, the travel approach. That's why”

that team wanted. That's why that team lost 100%. Mike, I got a question about your team. Kyler Murray feels like he's going to be, they get some mess again, because Kyler Murray feels like he, for everything reading, he's going to be the starter. How do you then go to JJ McCarthy of Kyler Murray's not good. Is there a chance of Vikings might trade Kyler or JJ McCarthy? Because it feels like that's the only solution that will keep everything calm

with, with both the locker room, the fan base, just rid yourself of this mistake and try to get something back for it. Yeah, conspiracy theory would be they're making it look like a close competition. So people will think, hey, maybe JJ McCarthy's a guy we should add to our team. We know how much Jim Harbaugh likes JJ, Mark, Justin Herbert is trade lands. Maybe they could salvage something. And that's the other side of this, too. Whoever loses that quarterback competition

“isn't going to be very happy. Kyler Murray didn't go there to be the backup. JJ McCarthy”

feels like he hasn't gotten a fair shake. One, some games down the stretch last year. Arguably still a lot of room to grow and improve. And it doesn't seem like anyone is really seizing the job, but it could be. Let's make McCarthy look good. Let's showcase McCarthy in the preseason. Let's hope we can unload him. And then go with three guys, Murray Carson Wentz, who showed up very late last year and played fairly well considering he didn't sign into August 31. He played

well when he got pressed into service. And then they got Max Brozmer, who they still really like, which tells me watch. Yeah, but they got four guys. And if they really like Wentz and Brozmer, then yeah, whoever doesn't win the starting job, presumably may not be there. But then the other side of it is, you want to keep the other guy there because Murray's gotten injured. McCarthy's gotten injured. I feel like if they're both there week one, we're going to see both of them play

at some point this year. Maybe two quarterbacks at once on the field. That would be a hell of a that would be a hell of a plan. It would be, it would about the, what about the cults in their quarterback situation. Anthony, well, actually, I have one more question about nine about McCarthy. What would you think that the trademark it would be like for nine? Because I can see a position where the Vikings, they think, yeah, it's probably for the best, if we if we traded them, if he doesn't

win the starting job. But then somebody makes it offer and the best offer they get is like a fourth round pick. And the Vikings would be like, well, we don't want to do that because we obviously just,

you know, we, we put ourselves in a position where we spend a first round or on them. And that just

doesn't seem like it's a, it's a great deal for a value right now. So like, what do you think other teams would offer? Well, you know, depends upon what other teams thought of him. And they're not in the business of advertising to the world, but they thought of a guy that someone else took with the 10th overall pick in the draft. But you may have some evaluators and coaches out there who are thinking, hey, we can handle this differently. It was a confluence of badge now led to this outcome.

We see something in McCarthy from his Michigan tape from his tape when things went well down the

the other side of it is this isn't the jets burning through highly drafted quarterbacks who

goes somewhere else in flourish. You could argue if the guy doesn't flourish under Kevin O'Connell, who's he going to flourish under? So that would be the risk that this guy just isn't going to work out. But it may be he needs to take a hard step back. Be a backup. It would be a cheap contract relative to what it cost to go out and find a veteran back up. He's got a playing experience. 31 of the teams. I'd like to think somebody would say it's worth rolling the dice out for us.

Yeah, no, definitely. I'm just I'm of the belief that if he doesn't win the job outright here, Minnesota, it's kind of over for him. Because it's very hard to draft a guy. Have him get injured, which said obviously sucked and it wasn't his fault. But then had the yo-yo of last year where it's, you know, the soft benching and all this controversy and everything going back and forth, do we want him doing not? And then have Kyle and Murray come in and beat you out for the job.

It's like, you got to just wash your hands, but you can't just keep, you can't keep doing it

“year after year, because that's how a team kind of starts to to develop and everything falls apart.”

There's a thought out there that the GM who was fired in January, Quaci Adolfa Mensa, that he's gone because McCarthy was his guy. I think the more important flaw was last year when they went with McCarthy, didn't keep Sam Donald, didn't keep Daniel Jones, didn't have a veteran proven there who could play if McCarthy got injured or was ineffective. And I suspect that O'Connell was saying we have to have someone else and that others in

the organization said, no, we're going to ride with nine. And then look what happens last year, who's gone, who stays, kind of tells you the rest of the story. I think the way they mishandled the quarterback position last year. Yeah. And that Quaci Adolfa Mensa's gone. And he could still be the starter. I mean, you could still win the job. I'm not saying that it's totally over. I'm just thinking that if you don't win the job, then then the Vikings

probably have to think about what the next step is. Yeah, you can't put him on ice for his third NFL season. And then say, oh, next year when Kyle Murray's gone, you're going to be the starter again. How do you command the room when you've been jerked around like that? Yeah, you can't ice nine. Vonnegut taught me that. What about the cults with the cults with Anthony Richardson? Is he, are they going to the separate ways? Are they moving on? Are they out of the Anthony Richardson

“business? I think the reality is they haven't found a trade partner yet, obviously. He's”

gotten affordable contracts to fully guarantee five million plus. No one has given them a trade

off for that they're ready to take. So you just hang on to him because all it takes is one injury in training camp in the preseason early in the regular season and all of a sudden there's a market for Anthony Richardson. Now the question is will they keep him beyond week one, but they all in that full salary. All they would save is the league minimum that he would sign that he would get if he signs with another team. So there's nothing to really lose by keeping him because you're

paying the vast majority of his salary anyway. And Daniel Jones gets injured and Daniel Jones has gotten injured a few times in his career. All of a sudden you may need Anthony Richardson. Look what happened last year. Jones gets injured in December. Richardson's not available because of that freak accident that happened in the locker room where the the band broke and he he took a weight in the eye and broke his orbital bone. They they didn't want Riley Leonard. They they

dusted off Philip Rivers to come in. But so at some point you got to at least account for the possibility Jones is going to get injured again. Then what are you going to do? You got Eastern stick and Riley Leonard is the other two guys or Richardson isn't there. Well, I mean at least Chris Ballard has a job for life. So I don't think they really are after press for it. Are there other people that are in the cultural organization that's still like they they want Anthony Richardson

“to do well that are still believing in Anthony? You have a lot of I think momentum behind a guy that”

you made the fourth overall pick. It's the same power structure. The only difference is ownership. And yeah, you'd like to salvage Anthony Richardson. If you could he still has the same skills that made him the fourth over. I picked the problem was he didn't have much experience playing. And he's gotten I think 15 games with 11 starts in three seasons. So he still needs more chances to play. Now how much of is it on him? Remember when he got benched? The thinking was he's not

putting in enough work. Remember he tapped out of that one game because he was tired. That seemed to be

the kissing in his second season. But the guy's still got incredible skills. I just think it's

it's like with McCarthy. It just gets to a point where it's poisoned. It's toxic. And maybe the best move for everyone as a first start. What's going on in Tampa Bay? Is it it feels like they might have you know keeping Todd Bowles a year too long after how it ended last year. Vita Vez upset. Baker may feel it's not happy rightfully so both those guys rightfully so are they going to

this feels like one of those teams that they've they pushed some chips in and it's like it all

could kind of fall apart in a second. Oh, and it fell apart last year down. Right. It had a great

start and then they just couldn't stop the bleeding once the loss has came and they ultimately blew the division to the Carolina Panthers. But Vita Vez they can say all they want that they don't plan to trade him. How many times have we heard that? And then the guy gets traded. It's just matter of getting an offer. Remember when Dexter Lawrence said he wanted to be trading. Nobody thought the giants were going to trade him. But when you're looking at keeping a guy who doesn't

want to be there, that can be just a problem for the entire locker room. He doesn't want to be here. It's a mess. He's got back tightness or whatever it is. It's keeping him from practicing. You don't want that distraction. So I think if they would get a good offer, they would move on from Vita Vez. You also have to be willing to pay Vita Vez whatever he's looking to get paid. But the Mayfield thing is far more interesting to me because Baker Mayfield is no different than the guy that he

was when he was drafted first overall by the Browns in 2018. And they pissed him off. And what happens when you piss off Baker Mayfield? I can see this play out. And I know they talk about the franchise tag, but he's going to have 30 million dollars in dead money that applies next year. Even before

“they would sign him or at least attach the franchise tag. The only way to deal with that 30 million”

is to work out an extension and you can play salary cap games that they tag him. They're looking at nearly 80 million under the cap for him in 2027. I could see him getting the open market. The bucking years believe. And I think this is why they haven't gotten a deal done. They believe

when if he gets a chance to go to the open market they will always be offering more than anyone else.

And once he's a free agent it doesn't matter if somebody else is offering less. He could take less just as a middle finger to the bucking years for not paying him when they had the chance. I could see him taking less money to go to Pittsburgh to some other like Pittsburgh is the perfect it just feels like the perfect destination for him. He could beat the brown choice here. I never thought of that, but that you're right about that. Pittsburgh could finally, wouldn't that be perfect.

It would be a radical change for Pittsburgh to get so young by getting like a young 30s quarterback.

“Which we're a big bigger guys. I think he's really good. I don't understand what the”

bucks are doing. And I think they're just in this weird spot where Jason lights a really good GM. And he's drafted really well. But I think it all comes back to Todd Bowles keeping him in a year when it was so clear he lost everything. Like he lost the locker group. My given goes to San Francisco to my given's who's like 40 years old is going to practice next to a substation every day. Just so he doesn't have to be around Todd Bowles. So I just think that's a very precarious situation

that feels like it could fall apart very quickly again. Here's the biggest problem when it comes to veteran quarterbacks, the range now is like $45 million. And where do you peg Baker Mayfield? And from Baker's perspective, it's easy to say, hey, look at this guy who got 50 million plus. Look at that guy who got 50 million plus. Look at that guy. I'm as good as them. And the bucks could respond by saying, well, those teams did stupid ass deals. We're not going to do a stupid

ass deal. We're not going to put ourselves in a position where maybe this all blows up. You get a serious injury. And then we've got some massive cap charge and this massive financial liability. We don't want to do that. He wants to do it. And I just think it all comes down to this here. Let's see how he plays. I was impressed by one of the things I learned in the quarterback series,

because I'm not able to follow college football the way I'd like because I'm always traveling

on Saturdays. I didn't know that when you didn't win the job at Texas Tech, he just left. And enrolled at Oklahoma without a spot on the football team. Yeah. I mean, this guy has rolled the dice over and over again. And he's willing to roll the dice this year. Yeah. The one thing that I'll say about Baker, and I love Baker, right? I think most teams should want to have a guy like Baker as a quarterback. He's not always super honest about his injuries

during this season. So he will try to like push through things, fight through things. And when that happens enough, I think it makes it hard to believe him in the off season. He's like, I'm feeling my best coming at camp and great shape. And it might make teams a little a little bit more reluctant to want to like commit that guaranteed money to him because we know that we know your tough is

“shit, but part of being a quarterback has to be like, you have to be able to admit when you're injured.”

Well, it's one thing to play through an injury and play well. It's another thing to play through an injury and not play well. And I think this is one of the reasons why it fell apart for him in Cleveland. It refuses to come off the field even if the injuries are causing him to be significantly less than what he would be when he's healthy. And that also goes back to one of the things he said in the quarterback series. Junior in high school, he didn't win the starting job. Fourth play from

it go. We've seen it with guys like Brett far. You don't want to come off the field ever because

“you don't want the next guy to have the chance to take your job. And I think that stubborn”

ness has caused him to refuse to come out when there's got to be situations where the backup at a hundred percent is better than Baker may field, whatever reduced percentage he is. But that's

part of the risk. Can he avoid like he's always going to play through the injuries. Any avoid

getting injured in a way that causes him to not be the best Baker may field he can be. And there's there's tension there. There's resistance there. And I respect the mindset for from the team's perspective. We want to have a quarterback out there who's at his best. And you're taking these hits you shouldn't take. You're getting these injuries. And we admire you for playing through them. But the team is damaged because of that. Yeah. Uh, got a question for you about the commanders.

Larry McDoncill tears his triceps on Friday. Um, you survived the cyanide. I saw your yeah. Nightmare. Nightmare scenario. Why? I won't say nightmare because we do have Brandon Coleman and Brandon Coleman played pretty well at left tackle in 2024. Got to the the UFC Championship

game. So he's he's no slouch. Obviously Larry McDoncill is a game changer. He's one of the best

tackles in the entire league. So like you want a guy like that on the field. But it's a serious

“injury. Probably won't play this year. Have the commanders committed to Brandon Coleman?”

Or do you think they're going to get on the phone and be like, hey, Taylor Decker or somebody else? You know, I don't know who else out there would have that same resume like a Taylor Decker. But is there any look to upgrade over what they have right now? Which would be Brandon Coleman at left tackle? Hey, look, this is the time of year where every team's got 90 guys. Some teams have too many players at a given position and they have to make decisions. What are we going to do?

We're going to trade a guy. We're going to cut a guy. We see so much activity once the roster's cut to 53. Then we'll be opportunities. Taylor Decker is an interesting possibility if they could work that out. I assume he's on the Lions reserve retired list so they'd have to do some sort of a deal with Detroit. I think I don't think he was just released. But I haven't researched that. That's a fancy way of saying. I don't know. But I think he was officially, yeah, he got released by

the Lions March, 2020. He's right there. He's out there. But look, it's hard to find good left tackles because there aren't enough of them. The supply doesn't match the demand. And when

“you have a great life tackle, that's why you keep and that's why you pay him because there are”

so few of them. So it's going to be a challenge and they're going to need to hope that the other guys they have can get it done and they're going to be able to hope that they can find someone else who can come in and be coached up and and fill the void. But obviously it hurts. And that's a thing that I hate about training camp. Like you're sitting around all the time waiting for that notification. Yep. They key player on your favorite team is fucked. Yeah. And you just want

to get through it all and get to the regular season. And it's an extra crew. We talked about it last episode. It's extra crew because you're not seeing it. Which I know doesn't really change it. But when you just see the tweet, oh, the cards coming out and you don't have any video. And you're like, what the fuck? I saw the video. Yeah. And it was a lot of coping. Like, I hope that's a stinger. He grabbed his arm. Is that what a stinger looks like? Uh-huh. A lot of asking AI to identify

what injury it was. And AI fucked me. I was like, yeah, it's probably probably a stinger. AI lied. It was a triceps. Um, but yeah. So if you were the command, like, what do you think they're going to do? What's your sense? You think they're going to look outside or you think? Because some GMs are like, we have depth for a reason. And we trust our guys. You know, I was in a team's facility wants. And it really shows how dehumanized football players can become. There's a big board. And I

assume most facilities are like this. There's a big board at the front of the room. And it's got every position on the team with the players listed by best to worst. And then on the other side of the room is every position. And they're list of the 10 guys or so that they would go get if one of these guys is available. And so the commanders have a board like that somewhere. They know who they would look to outside the organization. The question is, can they get them? But, you know, the general

manners are always looking for someone in the event, lightning strikes. And we lose a guy. We're

going to activate our plan. What is our plan? And the problem is, sometimes you just can't pull it off. The guy's not available. The guy wants too much money. The trade requests is too much. But they have some time to try to work it out. They're not going to tell us what their plan is. But I would be, it would be a mistake if they aren't doing something behind the scenes to look for a way to reasonably upgrade while Jeremy Tonsol is out. Yeah. Oh, okay. Give us a couple of teams that you're hearing from

that are either like there's obviously it's training camp. So everyone's got enthusiasm. Everyone thinks they're going to go undefeated. But are there any teams that you've heard from maybe not from the

all the pieces together. Maybe it's CJ Stroud looks better and to in Houston. Maybe the defense in Cincinnati looks better. One of those stories. I don't really have anything along those lines because there haven't been any joint practices yet. And, you know, you have a bunch of national reporters who are hopscotching around training camps. I don't put a whole lot of stock in secondhand information. I like this. You know, I mean, let's be realistic about it. Nobody knows what's

going to happen until it's time to start playing the games. Nobody knows. And it all plays out one week at a time. Teams are supposed to be bad and to be in good. Teams are good and up being bad injuries are usually a big factor in all of that. But the margin between the best team in the worst team from a talent standpoint in the NFL isn't like it was when I was a kid. And you'd have these 53 to 10 games on a regular basis. The worst team if they can get their shit together

and if they can avoid injuries and get a few breaks, they've got a chance. All right. So let me

“support you question that. Okay. I'll get more direct. I think you're in Rogers is going to play this”

year. Uh, always 42 if you haven't heard. Yeah. And he's got this full circle moment with Mike

McCarthy, which, you know, that's nice. But I really wonder how long it takes because it was the good in that relationship that made Rogers enthusiastic about playing for Mike McCarthy again. They want a Super Bowl together to cap to 2010 season. That was the best it ever got. But by the time it was over. If you look at any of the reporting from Tyler Dunn, he was with Bleacher Report at the time, it's kind of a shit show between Rogers and McCarthy. If they encounter

adversity, I don't know how Rogers is, it's never his fault. He's going to be pissed. He'll go on McAfee and say whatever he wants to say. We've already seen that recently. And yeah, if they win, it'll be great. If they lose, it'll be ugly because it won't be Aaron Rogers fault. It'll be McCarthy's fault or somebody else's fault because we we see that every time we see him rip his kinstrap off, the body language tells us it's not my fault. Somebody else fucked up. Okay. All right. So I agree

in large part with what you said about Rogers there in his career. But is this not a different situation

in the fact that it's Mike McCarthy's first year? Mike McCarthy knows he's going to be the

coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers next year. Aaron Rogers knows he's not going to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers next year. So as much as there is, maybe the bad that could happen. Like McCarthy's got to have the freedom of being like, I know this is a one year thing. Like let's try to make the best of it. But you're not going to, you're not going to cost me my job as the Steelers had coach. The Steelers weren't going to fire a head coach after one year. Wouldn't that be something

effective? And as I said, I was like, did I just make a clinic? I mean that would be hilarious. I'd feel bad for McCarthy, but that would be hilarious if they did it. Look, here's, we're so conditioned to the Steelers being contenders. 19 years with Mike Tom and if you haven't heard,

never had a losing record under Tom one, what if it just goes sideways this year? What if they're

two and six after the first eight games? What if it's just one bad thing after another? I don't think they have an over-abundance of talent there. I've seen some people suggest that they would be

“a team that has an outside shot at getting at the Super Bowl. I mean, really? I think, and I'm not”

rooting for this, but I'd be fascinated by it if it happened, it'd be very good for our business, because it'd be a huge talking point. There's a chances thing goes sideways and, you know, you get to the trade deadline, and you can have Aaron Rogers maybe asking to go somewhere that may, you know, need a quarterback. Some contender that may need a quarterback because get me the hell out of here. This is my last year. I won't have a chance to play into the postseason. There's a

lot of ifs in that, but it's also a McCarthy was six and ten as first year with the Cowboys. He took an eight and eight team under Jason Garrett in 2019 and he went six and ten in his first year with a team that was good enough to go eight and eight. So if they just, you know, post Tom on can't win games, it's impossible to envision it now, but once we get into the week after week after week, if they're losing and they're losing and they're losing and the press is going to get greater and

greater and greater, who the hell knows what's going to happen because as you said, McCarthy's not

“getting fired, it's Rogers last year. I think it's a mixture that could get, that could get a combustible.”

It's a will hard time will hired will hard. And that's the thing. Like if we're not contending by Thanksgiving, why do we want to play out the string with Aaron Rogers? Why do we not want to get one of these other guys some reps if the season ends up being lost? I'm not saying it will, but I think it'd be stupid to just assume that they're going to be contenders and everything's going to be fine when you change coaches after 19 years. That's why you're the best Mike.

Yeah, that's why I asked the wrong question. I was like, give us a like general picture. No,

“I got a point. It's not crazy. That's what makes it perfect. Yeah, it's fun to think about.”

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“Hey, how about this? Is Joe Burrogan be on the Bengals next year?”

TBD. See? It's good. I got to just ask more pointy questions. Look, look. Guys, they've missed the playoffs for three straight years. Yeah. I was surprised that they brought back Zack Taylor and Tobin this year. They go four straight years without a playoff appearance when you've got Joe Burro and Jamar Chase and T. Higgins four straight years. When there are seven teams per

conference making it now, you got Joe Burro and you miss a four straight years. After the season, I think it goes one way or the other. If they would miss the playoffs, later after just give the keys to Joe Burro or Burro is going to say get me out of here. It was eight years for Carson Palmer before he said I'm out. This is seven years for Joe Burro. I think if they've missed the playoffs and they don't make changes that make Burro happy. Remember how

to check that he was, that press conference on his 29th birthday? Yeah. I think that if they don't make the kind of changes that Burro wants after this season, if they fail to make the playoffs again, he's going to want out. Yeah. It was the fact that it was on his birthday made it so much more sad. Yeah. It was like, wait, you're upset already, but it's on your birthday, man. You got to put a smile on a little bit at least. Be like, show a little and through. What about the

other, the other team in Ohio? What about the Browns? What are they doing? Well, is it going to be

to Sean? Because I heard that before practice, they said it was going to be Sanders taking the first

team reps, right? And then they may have lied about that because the reporters that were there said that it was all to Sean Watson getting the first team reps. So if we're, if we're doing that quarterback battle, where we at? I feel like they're using to Sean Watson as the carrot to get Shoulder Sanders to do everything that they need for him to do. I feel like Shoulder Sanders, like Brett Farviews, to be just wants to show up and play in the games and he doesn't really care

about all this other stuff because he knows when it's time to play, he'll be good enough. And he was good enough last year, not great, but how? Who's been great in Cleveland since they re-enter the league in 1999? I feel like they, they want to motivate Shoulder. They did it, I believe, during the offseason program, they started to put out this idea that to Sean Watson was was running away with the QB1 position. And then by the end of the offseason program, Shoulder Sanders

made a lot of progress. So this may be kind of like, you know, mid-training camp, doldrums, trying to light a fire under Shoulder Sanders. And through it all, the one guy that seems to be making the most buzz is Dylan Gabriel. Coach Todd Munkin said recently, he's earning more reps. What's the point of performing well? If you don't get a reward, it would be crazy if Dylan Gabriel stole this thing because neither the other two ran away with it. I just think

“that's what, anytime you have a quarterback competition, that's what the coach is waiting for. They”

want one of the guys to seize the job and make it clear to everyone that they're the guy. And no one has done it in Cleveland yet. I would be shocked if it's to Sean Watson, but, you know, they got to figure out somebody who's going to play quarterback. They have a lot of other good pieces. They could be, you know, better than they were last year. They just need some stability at quarterback. And then you want these guys to seize the job and and no one has done it yet.

Yeah. All right. Here's another team that feels like they're at a crossroads, so to speak, where I'm not saying they're going to have a bad season. I think they're going to have a really good season. They go to the Super Bowl. But this season might dictate what happens in the future. It's the San Francisco 49ers because they feel like a team that they have not been, they've been kind of all in for the last few years. They have this like weird gap in their

don't have anyone from 21, 22 or 23. Their roster has a weird like really, really good older guys, stars that are maybe at the end of their career, but they're stars. And then a lot of young unproven guys. And then Kyle Shannon has been there for a really long time. So what's that going to be like? What is that situation from what you're hearing? You know, last year they had a lot of injuries, but they were able to stay competitive even though they had all the injuries. And

look at all the injuries they've already had. Thank you electrical substation. I don't know what it's going to be. Hey, I don't think we should underestimate the importance of not having Kyle

Shannon at 100% for the first two weeks of training camp. That's a critical time in the life

cycle of an NFL season. That's when the tone is set. They had confusion. They had their leader not there. He was there, but he wasn't there. He's kind of there, but he's not there 100%

“Chris Forster's running the team. I don't remember that happening at any time in the 25 years”

since I've been doing this where a coach is kind of there, but not there in the key couple of weeks that start off training camp. So getting him completely back up to speed and it looks like he'll be ready to go for their preseason opener and definitely for the regular season opener. But they do have a lot of order guys. You know, they're happy. They brought back Drake Greenlaw on Debo Samuel after they reached gone for a year, but how much do they have left in the tank? Mike Evans, you mentioned

him earlier. He's their clear cut top receiver. And he's in year number 14 or 13. I think it's 13. He's had hamstring issues. He missed nine games last year. He's got a quad issue now. He's been out for nearly a week. He put a lot of eggs in this basket of keeping guys healthy. Nick Boss all of a sudden has knee sortness. He had the torn ACL last year. He hasn't practiced for a few days. There's just a lot of stuff. And they got to get the hell out of that practice facility.

There was a profile of one of their executives in the athletic and it was kind of buried near the bottom that they're looking at moving to a new practice facility because they need more space. I don't care what the stated reason is. This whole substation thing just kind of takes on a life of its own and you can find anyone to comment and tell you it's fine. If the players

“think it's a factor and it gets into their heads, the only way you're ever going to fix this”

thing is to get the hell away from that. Yep, fair point. What about the Raiders? They were in the news this weekend. Apparently the training camp fight from hell. I need that video. Two bad asses going after it. Kirk Cousins and Max Crosby got into a fight. Who started the fight? Who was the aggressor between Kirk Cousins and Max Crosby? Well, I don't know that yet. But remember when the jets were on hard knocks, I think this is when it

happened. Rex Ryan instigated someone to go start a fight. Yeah. They wanted to toughen someone up or something like that. Here's the conspiracy theory. And I say this tongue-in-sheet. Okay. Conspiracy theory. Max Crosby deliberately started the fight at both himself and Kirk Cousins

knocked out a practice for a day. So from random and does it come in and get the first team reps

and have an opportunity to prove that the number one overall pick in the draft should be able to beat out a 37-year-old quarterback who still hasn't been the same since he tore his Achilles tendon three years ago. So Crosby did it on purpose to get Mendoza more first team reps. I'm kidding. But yeah, and the only problem with that though is that Max Crosby getting kicked out how do you know Fernando Mendoza? Like he, we famously know Max Crosby is an actual game record and practice.

He's a practice record. So how do we know that Fernando Mendoza is better than Kirk Cousins, Max Crosby isn't there wrecking practice? But it makes it even easier for Fernando Mendoza. I'm an employee. Well, it's true. It's true. It taught to me. You know, this isn't like the chiefs of 2017 when they had a perennial playoff team, Alex Smith taking them to a point, but only to that point. So they draft Patrick Mahomes. They sit him on the bench for a whole year

because they have a team. It's going to get back to the playoffs again, and they did that year. The Raiders, what have they done? They've been to the playoffs twice since the last time they went to the Super Bowl to cap the 2002 season. They don't have the luxury of saying, we think Fernando Mendoza is better than Kirk Cousins. Why else would you have drafted him if you didn't think he would be better than Kirk Cousins? We're going to put him on the bench for a year

and see what happens with Kirk Cousins. It doesn't make any sense to me. They need, I think that any quarterback needs reps. And if you are looking at a guy that you think can't jump in and play right away. Why are you making him the first overall pick? So I disagree with this entire approach. I think any, any first round quarterback, especially top 10 quarterback. I agree with

“this. It's going to be ready to go week one or you should have drafted someone. The Schleroth was the”

one who changed our mind on this like a decade ago. Whereas like if you're not, because I always

was like, oh, a Derek car or sorry, David car, like he got ruined and Schleroth was like the point is

got sacked like you don't want to put your quarterback in that spot. But if they can't get over it, if they can't find a way to to overcome that, they probably weren't going to be the superstar you thought they were going to. And I would also say that if you look at the Raiders schedule this year, they say they don't want to have Mendoza start the season. But there's no real, real, easy place where you could imagine Mendoza taking over. If you're trying to like ease them in there,

you might as well just have them start week one against the dolphins. If you believe them, I like your conspiracy. I would actually say, I could see a world where it was set up beforehand where cousins and Crosby knew and like, hey, let's get into a fight so we don't have to practice for the rest of the day. Because this is the one who's looking at possibly losing the starting job and hell, I don't know. Does he want to? I think he wants to play. But it's not like

“there was anyone else offering him a starting job. That's what's so weird about this. You got a”

veteran quarterback who has played well has made a ton of money over the years. No one else was offering him the QB1 position. If Fernando Mendoza cannot beat him out and it feels like they're not going to let them have a fair competition. But if he can't beat them out, why in the world,

we'll see the first overall pick. Why not take David Bailey? Why not take Arvelle Reese?

Why not, I was going to say Jeremiah love, but I mean, they already have Ashton Jenny. But take somebody else or trade out of that spot and get yourself a bunch of picks you can use to address the many holes in your roster. Good point. Meems. Do you have any questions for our dear good friend Mike Floria about your beloved jets? Not really. I mean, oh, good job. I guess they are podcasts here. When do you think the athletics get to conclude their investigation? Good question,

Mitch. Well, hey, I mean, they said a few weeks on or about June 11 and June 7. It was when it

“was reported that the guy who runs the athletic, the executive editor Steven Gensberg had said”

it's going to be a few weeks until they finished their investigation. I'm starting to think they're

just never going to do it. For whatever reason, either they don't want to put any of that stuff out there

and if they do that, they're going to have some people at the New York Times and at the athletic who are upset or maybe there was some sort of a deal that was struck between Diana, Christina and the athletic for this thing to go away. She's not going to tell her story. They're not going to finish their investigation. She clearly doesn't want them to do that or they've just decided the whole thing is so damn complicated. It really is taking a lot longer than they expected.

But it's odd that it's taken this long for them to do their investigation and come to a conclusion. There's a lot of pressure internally. There's an awkward culture there because the New York Times reporters believe the athletic reporters have a lesser standard and this case is a prime example of the lower bar that applies to the athletic having and triggering a worse case scenario. So I thought we'd have it by now and I still think there's a chance she's going to sit down

with Oprah Winfrey the night before the regular season opener and tell her story. I'm not saying she will. I'm just saying with the Patriots playing that Wednesday night, two days after Labor Day, that Tuesday night right before that game. Man, that'd be a hell of a time to drop a big old turret in the punch ball if she decides to do that. Oprah, Oprah will be wild. Yeah. Anyone, whoever it would be, some big prime time interview, Diana Ruscini,

Briggs of Silence tells her story and who that hell knows what she would say. Yeah, part of my take. Yeah. You're measuring the numbers out.

“Be great. Yeah. What's going on with with Aaron Rodgers injury, by the way, do they skirt the rules, Mike?”

Oh, they absolutely skirted the rules. They deliberately did a risk for word calculation. Aaron Rodgers was sick before the playoff lost to the Texans. They sent him home from the team hotel. I don't mean it. I'm going to go through in the past. So in the past, he was sick going into it. Yeah. He had a stomach issue. What was it? Yeah. I guess that's it, but we don't know what he had. Here's a problem. Here's a problem.

Yeah. And you guys dabble in the gambling trade from time to time.

No, I never touch this stuff. This is the problem. We've seen these scandals pop up in other

sports when there is inside information that that people have, but the public doesn't have. We don't know who knew that Aaron Rodgers was that sick. We don't know who they told. We don't know who hammered the under on his passing yards. He had 145 passing yards. I suspect the undercash. Hammer the under on his passing touchdown. He had zero. The undercashed. His rushing yards. I don't know what he had, but if he's sick, it's just an edge. You know,

you're not going to find a silver bullet, but you're going to get an edge if you have inside information. And that's where the scandal is going to come from. The NFL for the most part has avoided that. It's been a basketball and baseball thing. That's why they need to care about it. And I don't

Bajon Robinson woke up sick on a Sunday game against the Buccaneers. And they didn't disclose it. And all the people lost their minds because he was the rookie then. He was the hot fantasy football

“prospect that he barely played in the game. They got in trouble for that. So I think the stealers”

did what they did knowing there was a chance the ship was going to hit the fan later. But they decided screw it. We're he's going to play the whole game. That's all we care about. And if it comes out later, he was sick and we get in trouble. We'll deal with it at the time. Michael, I have a question for you. Can I ask questions? Yes. Okay. So a big cat part of my take. I commend you in your pursuit. Because I actually agree with you. Like I agree that the teams need to be disclosing these things.

When it comes to this specific case, is there a chance that the stealers were absolute dog shit all year on offense. And the Texans were awesome. And no matter what Aaron Rodgers could have taken steroids before the game and felt like he was 25 years old. And they still would have gotten their dick kicked in. Yeah, absolutely. But that's not the point. The point is I know I know the inside information. And it's going to take it's just funny in this specific scenario. Because

it's like it had nothing to do with him being sick. This was always going to happen. But I know what

you're saying. But he was sick and they didn't tell us. It's not what would have happened if they told us. It's the fact that they didn't. It's going to take some massive scandal to make the changes that protect the consumers. You want to protect and I know the sports books end up getting screwed too, because the inside information gets out there and somebody goes out and hammers the under and it caches and they get a lot of money. But they started the engine report years ago because

one side had the inside information and the general public did. And it's not there for competitive reasons. It's there to give the general public some sort of a level playing field when it's time to make wages. And it's like in the stock business, it's insider trading and people go to jail. And I'm stunned that it's been eight years now since they've opened the floodgates for legalized gambling in every states. I'm stunned that we haven't seen some effort to have real standards that avoid

inside information. In this era in our case, it's a prime example of the inside information and who knows what the people who had access to it did with it, who they told, who placed bets. We may never know the answer to that question. But we do know there was inside information. They didn't share. I love this. This is much. Yep. When you're sleeping, you are the meme for us.

“Like when we're sleeping, you're taking all the bullets for us. You want me on that wall?”

I need you on that wall. We need you on that wall. Yeah. Yeah. That's a fact. All right, Mike. Let's actually just before we do the rowback question. I was in we loved Mike. By the way, he has a chapter in credible chapter about the Italian sports hall of fame. He also wrote the back of our book, part of my book out August 18th, Flio's all over it. You can't tell the history of part of my take without Mike Floreo. That's a fact.

But when we're dead, if you ever have a Hall of Fame, then I get in. 100%. Yep. You might hit

first balder. It's like you Whitney, uh, my, my,

my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my,

- I've told you that-- - No, no, no, we keep him out. - He's on PEDs. - He's on PEDs. People don't realize the Jerry's on PEDs. - I could listen, and I don't know what it is. - He's the best. - He's on your show.

I can just listen to that guy talk all day long, and maybe it's just me, but I get such a kick out of Jerry O'Connell.

“- So, no, he's an incredibly talented and, you know what?”

The best part about Jerry O'Connell is he's exactly the same. If I call him on the phone, and I'm like calling him, I'll call him on the phone sometimes on my way home after we record, it's the exact same thing.

Like he is just always funny.

He doesn't have an off-moment. We're about to go to Camp Barstool. We just sit in that cabin, and he just entertains us in his little tidy whiteies. He just walks around and entertains us.

But what I was gonna say was, we were scheduling this, and I was like, "Hey, can we do 730?" And you're like, "Yeah, no problem. "We're gonna go see the Odyssey at 815." Then you got on, so then we moved it up to 630.

You got on, you've already seen it. You're just gonna go see it again? Yeah, we've been, I mean, we loved it. We could have, you could have been, you could have been five minutes late.

Assign seating, right? Yeah, well, and the night that we went, we went the Monday night after it came out. My son and I went to the last show in the day 930 Eastern.

There was no one in the theater. Now, a few people came after we got there. So I don't expect that nine o'clock at night on a Sunday, there's gonna be a lot of people there. But, yeah, I mean, I appreciate your flexibility.

We still would have been able to get, I don't know, maybe I would have been rushing to get there, maybe not, it's not that far from here, but yeah, I love the Odyssey.

It's, I can watch every single day. I don't know if you guys have seen it. I think it's not, it is entertaining.

“And my son and I talked about it for two weeks after we saw it.”

So we're going back, try to get my wife to go get it. It's good, I like it. I didn't like the fact, you had to get a sex change to watch the movie to buy a ticket, but that's the price that I pay, it's a great film.

I like it. I might go, just, I might, I'm going to wait till it comes out on streaming and watch it on my phone. Like on a flight. That's how I'm going to watch it.

The way to Christopher Nolan in 10. Yeah, really enjoy it. All right, so rowback question RHOBACK.com, promo code Take.

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hoodie's jogger shorts, rowback.com, promo code Take. Zack, you want to give us, give Mike a last question, or maybe two? Mike, I got a quick question for you. Hope you're well today, man.

We're going to go down to the Great State Texas. Jerry Jones recently let everybody around the league know. He's looking to trade. He's looking to mix it up. What do you think he's willing to put on the line in his eyes

that would make a big enough return for the Cowboys and maybe do this thing before he dies? Well, he's made it clear. He's willing to move future assets. Now, some of that is Jerry's habit of creating attention

by saying whatever pops into his brain. And he's very good at that. There is some speculation out there that Max Crosby could be a target for them. Think back to what happened with the Ravens trade.

It was March, two first round picks. The Ravens got cold feet once they had a chance to do the physical doctor, Daniel Cooper, who's the Cowboys team doctor was involved in the evaluation, but Crosby's healed now.

And if the Raiders aren't looking for two first round picks,

we get into the season. Every year, the Raiders are looking to trade anyone before the deadline. What if he's available? What if the Cowboys are willing

to get a first round pick to get Max Crosby? So I just think Jerry, look, I have long believed that this whole thing about Jerry being obsessed with not winning another Super Bowl and being tormented by it. I just think that's part of his Carnival Barker vibe

where he just acts like he, I mean, they're making so much freaking money. And he knows what it takes to get assets in seats. And it would be sad if he's been truly tormented in the last 30 years of his life by not winning another Super Bowl.

The guy's got a 400 foot yacht for crying out loud. If you can't be happy with a 400 foot yacht, something is wrong. But they seem to be inclined to at least entertain it. The question becomes, what can they get?

Can they get it on their terms? Is Max Crosby available?

If the Raiders suck out of the gates,

that's when it gets interesting. Because whether it's the Cowboys of somebody else,

“I think this Max Crosby trade possibilities”

are going to move back to the front burner. I like that. The question is, it is kind of weird that they traded him. Then he went back and they're like, hey, sorry about that, just business, not personal.

We did try to trade you. There's no way that you can just forget that and move on if you're Max Crosby. That's not like George Costan's a quitting his job and showing up the next day and act like nothing happened.

I know that a very timely and hip reference. But there are so many lessons from that show that apply to everyday life. It's awkward, it's weird. And they can say anything they want to say.

It's still a weird scene when they traded the guy. And everybody thought he was gone, he did his farewell video and then he's back. - Yep. - Yeah, I do have one last question for you.

You can take this into any direction. Give me a coach that might be a surprise hot seat topic. Come, let's say a week eight. A guy that we might not be thinking of right now. - Wow.

- Man, whoever I say is going to get me in. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But you'll get that thought? - No, I mean.

- Oh, I know. - Coach's read, coaches read pro football talk. I don't need the phone calls. I don't need the text messages and trust me. There are certain coaches who, if I would say their name,

they will text me, they will call me, they will piss and moan. Which will further prove why they may be on the hot seat come week eight. Because if you're worried about something, I say, during training camp, you got your priorities all out of whack.

What about Jim Harbaugh with the charge? - Oh, no, I have this. - Now piss. - I love it. - I love it, don't you hate me.

- I love it. - I love it. You spend 30 seconds explaining why you're not going to do it, but then you're like, you know what? - Jim Harbaugh.

- Jim Harbaugh. - You thought about Jim? - Yeah, I mean, he's gotten the charges like,

“remember what they were under Brandon Staley?”

- I know, but there's this urgency to get to the next level. - Of course, but they also had no one blocking for Justin Herbert. That was a joke of a playoff game. - Here's the wild card. They could make guys who otherwise wouldn't be on the hot seat

out the door. Mike Thomas is going to hover over the entire season. And he told Chris Collins worth the other night when he was in the booth for the Hall of Fame game. He hasn't thought yet about whether he wants to come back

because he knows that he won't really be able to tell

For now, he doesn't miss it. And I got to spend a lot of time with him last week. He is awesome. Just being around him, just listening to him. He's got so many stories.

He communicates so clearly. He could get me and I would say run for a wall, but I can't run for a wall. He would get me to bounce off of a wall for him if he wanted to. I just love being around the guy and he's going to be great

on TV and they're going to be owners who are trying to get him. And it's not just going to be owners who are already committed to firing their coaches.

“There's going to be owners who think, you know what?”

I'm fine bringing this coach back, but if Tomlin's coming back and somebody's going to get him, I want him, I'll fire my coach if I can get him. So I think there's going to be a shitload of teams that are hovering around to try to possibly get Tomlin

when the season ends. And there could be guys that are perfectly safe right now. But if their team can get Tomlin, they're gone. Is it going to be a situation where like, you know,

there's always stories about a scout going to a high school

for one specific guy. And then they see another guy. And that becomes the greatest player of all time. Could it be a situation where owners are watching son and I football for my Tomlin?

And they're like, oh my god, we should hire Jason Garrett. And look, it all seriousness, I'm stunned. Now, I think he probably made a mistake signing off with Joe Judge to be the offensive coordinator to the Giants after his job always ended.

But he's another one that tells great stories. He understands the game. I've loved being around him the past few years. I just know that there's a much greater sense

“that there's going to be a land rush for my Tomlin.”

Look at what happened John Harbaugh. Because he dumped right back into it. It was clear, Tomlin wasn't going to coach this year. Or they would have been the same kind of zeal and effort and leverage.

And he's going to be in a great spot. And it's all going to come down to whether or not he wants to coach again, whether he's going to miss it. In his current job, he's not going to be put in the kind of hours. And it's not a healthy lifestyle.

Sean Payton was able to sit out for only one year before he jumped back into it. John Madden retired at age 42, even though he 42

were any retired, he never looked back.

So we'll see where Tomlin goes. Mike, you're the best. We love you. Enjoy out of seat for the second time. And can't wait for football to be back.

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Hank is back. Hank, so the scores, myself, memes, and Macs, 44, PFT, 33. Hank, it's Zach, 31. What did you think about your boy's performance on Friday without you here?

I mean, I feel bad for leaving him. I think that's on me. I take full blamers, lunchability, or a team, and I let him out on an island, while I was on an island. And that's just being a poor team.

Sonna, horrible pick. I still can't believe he didn't pick trading cards. Yeah, I was, it is what it is, where that was last week, we're on to this week. That's my official statement.

What's your own official statement? How long did you guys, when you make the topic and how long before you decide?

“Well, here's the thing is, Zach, one of the topics.”

Zach thought of it because he was opening trading cards. Zach picked the topic, probably an hour, elapsed, and then Zach picks Sonna. Yeah, Sonna, I don't, I love Sonna's. I might be the biggest son of guy on this show.

I think that you guys both have Sonna. I saw it today. I still probably saw him more than I thought of you guys. You guys have Sonna. That's Sonna today, did you?

I saw it. I saw it a four times a week. I go, usually 250 degrees, 45 minutes. That's not true. This is not true.

I know, but every time I go in there, I just say that I go harder. Because that's what you guys do if you're a real son of boy. You just up your stats. The son of guys who get it. You guys are just rich, but I actually love Sonna's.

If you guys didn't have Sonna's in your house, you would not, Sonna.

If I lost Sonna, my money, I just have a sonna.

I'm going to sell it. If I ever go broke, I'm going to sell my house off room by room, and the last one to go is going to be the sonna.

“I get to live in the sonna, but I still remember fighting about how good of a pick this is.”

I know. My point, my point, my point, my point, my point, my point, my point was to say, I still would not have. Correct. That would have entered a list of, I had to pick a hundred.

The door is the worst part of the sonna. But regardless, we're, again, we're, we're moved on, we're on to Monday. The door is the portal to the sonna. It's just, it just picked doors. It's also the portal out.

Big mistake on all of, I feel like your eyes for things that you open shouldn't have been one of the picks. Sometimes it's not the best, though. It happens. Actually, I don't like opening my eyes in the morning.

I actually don't work. But no, every day you open your eyes as a gift. No, that's why I was caught here. I wish I could keep sleeping, and I can't. So I opened my eyes, and I'm like, fuck, I wish I could sleep.

It sounds like you need to open your heart. No, I just, not sleeping enough. So do we, do we talk it all after the sonna or no? Oh, it takes a little bit. We're, listen, there's a lot of Rushmore's left where, we're, not really, very much, we're, I mean, we're right, we're instructing distance.

That's true. And that's all it matters. Anything can happen. Anything can happen. Yeah.

And we play better on the road. And we're going on the road. Lot of road. Is that true? You guys play better on the road?

That's all we're telling each other. Yeah. It's good things for yourself. All right, Mount Rushmore of masculine foods. This one is, this one will be tough to fuck up.

Okay. Say anything. Okay. Actually, yes, it is. This one is tough to fuck up.

A lot of picks. All right. What does the order means? We go first. And then, hey, Hank.

Okay. Yeah. All right.

We're going to run the ball with our first pick.

And we're going to go with steak. That's, that's an easy one.

“I actually think this is the, I think, what's that faith?”

He didn't do a face. I actually think, I was looking at this, this, and I, like, I don't think I'm giving any way. I actually think this, this first shot is just loaded. But steak is the first pick.

There's a loaded first round. Everyone should do well in this first piece. You should get out of this first round to be happy with everyone's picks. Do you not agree, PFT? There's a loaded first.

No, I'm, no, I'm concerned. Hank gave a look. Exactly. Oh, no. I don't know what that was.

Okay. We're going to take ribs. Okay. All right. All right.

It's a loaded first round. Yeah, we had it. Here we had it. We had it. Good pick.

We had it. Loaded first round. It is.

PFT's about to take a big pick.

I'm, I'm going to take bacon. Okay. Yep. Very masculine pick. Good pick.

My second pick. I'm going to go with pork chops. Okay. Wow. Okay.

Good pick. That's that. Zack is freaking out. Pork chop. Pork chop from masculine.

Yeah. You, you wanted to take pork chops? No. No. I don't know.

I'm just kind of curious where this draft goes. I don't know. I got a sack. We're going to take chicken and we're going to take ground beef. Oh, no.

Oh, no. He's got it. But we didn't. So you got chicken. We got chicken.

Okay. Oh. Chicken. Did you see the two? I just texted it.

Yeah. We're, we're a little bird. Yeah. Yes. We're going to take buffalo wings.

Okay. Um, burgers. And burgers. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, we don't have to. Right now, we have steak wings burgers. Yeah. Yeah. Those are great foods.

I, I thought about chicken wings. How did you not take wings? Yeah. I thought you were for sure. I don't think chicken wings are necessarily masculine.

Oh, they're like, we took chicken. Okay. So you're taking what grilled chicken? Chicken wings. No.

No. No. You got a buffalo wings and, and, and chicken. or a total of what our buffalo wings made out. - Yeah, but you don't go, you know, it's a,

you just try to take ground beef to you. You could take it, I'm not gonna argue. Go and take ground beef. We have to eat it. - We have to eat it. - Go ahead.

- We also, we also took, so we're just gonna take red meat and you get every single red meat. - No, I mean, there's a lot of steak. - We took steak. - It's a good taste. - Ground beef. - There's lots of different chicken.

- You actually technically did take ground beef. - There's chicken. - There's chicken. - There's chicken. - There's chicken. - There's grilled chicken, there's chicken. - Right. - There's the southern fried chicken.

- When Hank took chicken, I thought to myself like, I understand the pick, but it's too broad. - Right. - Yes, well, you didn't, no one said that. - No, it's a little, you're allowed to take it.

- Yeah, it's a fair pick.

“- But it's, yeah, I think the nervous broadness of the pick”

could end up hurting you. - What, you, you technically did take your next two picks. You have ground beef. - All right. - Ground beef is a good pick. - And I would argue, we have hamburger.

- Yeah, we have hamburger. - We should, technically we should just make it, it should be burger. - Yeah, burger. - Yeah.

- Cheeseburger?

- Burger, burgers, burgers.

“- Okay, steak, burgers, steak, wingsburgers.”

- I love the Hank, I need to, I need that clip of Hank saying, all right, we got it, and then took two picks when he wasn't supposed to. - Pipsy. - Yeah.

I've got, I've got a pick and I'm not sure if it's gonna be allowed. - Oh, I know what it is. - No, yeah. - Okay. - I don't know what it is.

- You don't know this one. - Okay. - Well, is it a food? - Yeah, one of them is a food. I get two picks right now.

One of the two is certainly a food. - Okay. - You know what, I'm, I'm gonna go against everything that my brain is telling me to because up to this point, my brain is absolutely sabotaged.

- Just take a shot, Rushmore's. - If it's not a food, we'll, we'll talk about it. This is what mouse for us for us for us for us for us for us for us.

- Yeah, I'm gonna go with,

a fish you caught yourself. - Okay. - A fish you caught. - I, okay. - I like that.

“It's out of the box, but it, but it, it is masculine.”

- It's a very masculine thing. - Fish on it masculine, but no, but if you catch it, if you catch it yourself. - Yeah. - Anything you catch yourself.

- Correct. - My last one is gonna be pussy. - Yep. - We, in our meeting, we believe that. - Yeah, he's gonna be upset.

- He's gonna be upset. - He's gonna be upset. - He's gonna be upset. - He's gonna be upset. - Yeah, he's gonna be upset.

- Yeah, he's gonna be upset. - Yeah, he's gonna be upset. - I just love the Chinese. So is that a food? - Nope.

- Okay. - Horne's got it, we got it. - Bifar. - Yeah, it means his, uh, Mr. Nudes over there. - He's still, no.

- Captain Nudes. - Captain, Captain, Captain, Captain, Captain, Captain, - You missed that, 'cause memes in PFT had an off camera, argument about Nudes. - I, memes just, just, is walked around,

insisting to everybody gets more Nudes than them. And I'm like, okay dude, you got it. I believe you. - All right, so you need something else than pussy, yeah, yeah, I got to ask, that would not be a food.

- Okay, all right, so we won't go ask or pussy. (laughing) I'm gonna go with sausage, okay? - The opposite of pussy, yeah. - sausage.

- Very fowlic. - Very masculine though. - Masculine and foul. - Yeah. - Hank, do we do it, Zach?

- Big B. - Yeah, we can take the big B. - Bison. - Oh, we had it on there. I don't think I know I have had bison.

- It's good, bison burgers, bison burgers are great. - Yep. - There used to be a, it was like right across the street for my defunct film school, but it was just a bison like restaurant.

So I went there a lot. - Max, you want yours? - I mean, yeah, you got it. - Let it rip Max. - You got it.

- Yeah, we have meatballs on it. - There you go, there you go. - We had that, we had to have it. - Yeah. - It wasn't our highest rated on the board,

but no, we had a lot of our must draft left. (laughing) - Yeah. - Cheesecake, chili, ground beef is, you couldn't, that would have been whatever.

- Whatever. - Wait, what? - Vennison, we vennison. - What was it, what was it, what was that thought? - No, it doesn't matter.

- No, it doesn't matter. - It doesn't matter. - We burgers, you have ground beef, we couldn't take chili. - No, you could take chili. - Oh, cheese steak is ground beef.

- No, it's not, it's ribeye. - Yeah, no. - That's right. - Okay, that doesn't matter. - It doesn't matter. - It doesn't matter. - It doesn't matter. - It doesn't matter.

- A chop cheese. - A chop cheese. - Chop cheese is ground beef. - Yeah. - Pull pork. - Okay. - Brisk it was a big mess, I'll give you that.

- Brisk it. - I put it in our chat. - We should do brisk it. - We should do brisk it. - But I actually think we had to eat pork. - We had to get meat. - We had to get meat. - Thinking back on it, so nobody took chili, right?

- No.

- I think chili might be a first-round pick. - Yeah, yeah, we had it in our most drafts.

- Our most drafts were steak, burgers, wings, ribs, fried chicken, brisket, meatballs, cheese steak, chili. - So the legs? - Yeah, eggs, eggs. - I think eggs are spicy. - Oh, eggs are spicy. - But like, if you're thinking out, we were thinking--

- He was like, the masculine, what do you, you know, if you're trying to get, like, protein. - Yeah. - I said that. (laughing) - Yeah, I said, he said protein, I was like,

but those guys were like, "work out so much "are not really masculine." - We were talking about like, what are the most feminine foods they can argue that chicken and rice? - No, the feminine. - Meem, you said, okay, no, no, no. - They're like, "Grill, chicken."

I said, "That's a chicken meal." - "Grill, chicken, chicken." - I can't, if you're adding it to a salad. - I don't think so, I think it's like, if you're, like, masculine is trying to get the most amount of protein. - Yeah, but I, I, those guys, I'm the most, guys, we're like, going Instagram and like, flexing shit. - But chili is more feminine than that. - I'm not, yeah, I'm not following.

- Because they're just getting chicken wings or not, masculine.

“- You have to, like, fucking lick your hands, like, at the last portion. - Yeah, yeah. - You're not, you're not. You're not. You just probably wouldn't ever do it.”

- But hey, you're saying that it's too messy. - You're describing why you have a bunch of napkins and it's like, "We've been doing it, Puffle Wings for everything you said." - The juices don't run to, it's too juicy. - I mean, if you're saying chicken and rice is now masculine, then chicken wings aren't either.

- So grilled chicken, masculine. - I didn't say that, no. - Fuck, I didn't say that either.

“- Potatoes. - Potatoes. - Potatoes. - Not like, not like French fries, they're just potatoes.”

- Like, maybe a little bit of butter. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Voiled. - Um, sausages, brats, you did sausage. Here's one that I couldn't, we're arguing about. I don't know if I've ever seen a chick eat sunflower seeds, but then Max said they put them on salads, which I didn't realize. - Yeah, so sunflower seeds with the shells. - Yeah, yeah, de-sheld, sunflower-tops. - Yeah, yeah. I had, so the one that I was debating, and since we had already been through chicken gate twice,

I was going to say the biggest piece of chicken. The big piece of chicken, in a bucket, that's, that's dad's piece of chicken. That's the biggest alpha male in the room. They claim the monster breast of chicken. Yeah, burritos, big ones. I got a burrito saturday night that was like, it was like, three burritos in one. It's fucking made me feel like a man. Meet lovers pizza? - Yeah. - Chicks don't eat that.

Oh, like sausage pepperoni. - Yeah. - When it's just like, it's basically, you can barely see the pizza.

There's so much meat on it. - Yeah. - Sloppy jose. Sloppy jose is good. Beef jerky. - Beef jerky is a good pick. I was thinking combos? Yeah. - I feel like chicks don't eat combos. - I said, a chicks in combos. - Yeah, I thought you, you went a little, you went a little.

I was trying to think about it, I was trying to think about it. - Yeah, I was trying to think about it. I was trying to think about it, I was trying to think about it. - Yeah, I was trying to think about it. I was trying to think about it, I was trying to think about it, I was trying to think about it, I was trying to think about it, I was trying to think of what the most masculine fruit is avocado. - No, no. - What? - I lay down orange, like a big orange. - Not a clemency. - I think they don't. - Even though it's kind of shaped like a dick.

- Yeah. - It's the least juicy. - Yeah, but when you get the peel of an apple, I think it might just be an apple.

“- No, apples, no, that's what, that's what got Eve.”

- There's an Eve attempt to add them with it? - Oh yeah, that's it. - Yeah. - That's very chick move, right? - Yeah, big time. Chicks love apples too much.

What about, um, I feel like watermelon. - Watermelon, yeah. - Watermelon, yeah. - It's pretty masculine.

- Yeah, it's pretty good. - Blueberries. - Blooms? - There's a dainty. - Yeah, but big fat ones. - But big fat ones. - Yeah, I mean, I like blueberries. - I'm a blooms man. - Yeah. - Blackberries might actually be up there because they kind of got a little different to them and they're not, you know. - Yeah. - They're like the manly version of raspberry. - Seated watermelon. - That's a man. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - The unseated is like child's play. Like what are you doing?

- Lemon. - Yeah, that's a man's fruit. - Yeah, what? - Love a nice white lemon. - Yeah, lemon job shop. - Yeah, no, no, it's like bite out of a lemon. - Like, uh, what do you think about TV dinner? - Like, yeah. - Hungry man. - Hungry man. - Hungry man. - Yeah. - Hungry man, yeah. - Hungry man is maybe low-fizzing low-fizzing low-fizzing low-fizzing low-fizzing. - I mean, it's in it. - Chicken pop pie. - Hungry man is maybe the most unhealthy meal that you can ever eat, but God damn, it's good.

- Yeah. - Ramen. - Now it shakes the most. - That's the most chicken. - You think just like the brick of ramen is for chicks? - Yeah, yeah. - I disagree. - Um, then it's good. - That is good. - It's good. - Shepherd's pie. - Yeah. - That's just literally meat mashed potatoes. - Yeah. - Shark fin. - Shark? - Yeah. - What about the, what about just a meat pie? The Australian meat pies? - Mm-hmm.

- That feels like that's massive. - That should do. - That should do. - Yeah, yeah, I used to. - I used to. - I used to. - I used to. - I used to. - I used to.

“- Chilly, I used to. - Chilly, I used to.”

- I had elk. - And I don't even have it. - Like a backstrap at elk, pretty good. I had a turkey leg. - Pride turkey leg. - Yeah. - Or smoke.

The one that you walk around with at the fair. - Mm-hmm. - Mm-hmm. - And then memes, I thought you might take pieces of shit like you for breakfast. - Mm-hmm.

- Yeah, yeah. - He did your pieces in the breakfast. - What else? - What did you guys have? What else is active?

Did you have any that didn't make the cut? You were thinking-- - It's fun to debate on some of these--

- We were, for a second, we were torn between like,

is it masculine foods, or is it like the most masculine food you could eat? Like, is it like the-- - That sounds the same to me. - Like, like, bison and like shark and like buffalo.

- Buffalo. - Like, is it like, we're going out? - We're hunting down this line and getting massive. - Yeah, yeah. - I was just thinking of guys who-- - It's like--

- It basically was-- - What can you eat to gain its power? - It basically was the most straightforward-- Mount Rushmore, who's like, "Can you just recite what we eat on football Sunday?"

- Yeah. - We're about pizza. - Yeah, so meat lovers pizza. - Yeah. - That is the most masculine. - I think a stromboli.

- I love, I love, I love, I love. - I'm not really the stromboli here.

- Yeah, I love stromboli. - Calzone, yeah, Calzone.

“Like, I've never seen a girl eat Calzone.”

- No. - When you buy a Calzone, you're making a commitment. That's a commitment to the next day and a half of stomach pain and eating.

- Yeah. - That's a serious relationship you're getting into with the Calzone. - Yeah, chick's cadaver. - You don't have a commitment like--

- You don't flip in the order of Calzone. - No. - You're like, oh, yeah, let me throw on a Calzone. It's like, no, no, I'm gonna sit down with this Calzone and then the Calzone's gonna sit with me.

- If you for a while. - If you do a stromboli or a Calzone, you're making not just a choice for your day. You're making a commitment really for, it's pretty much a lifestyle change for the rest of your life.

If you decide to eat a full Calzone or a stromboli in one sitting, you're like, okay, I've officially fucked off.

- Yeah, you're basically like, yeah, pizza.

- I give out enough. I need double it. - I give up. - You win. - What about Italian sub?

- That's a masculine, I mean, - I mean, so many types of meat. - Yeah, yeah. - That you're just like-- - You guys are just talking about the foods

that you like the most. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Which is fine. - Yeah, but that is, I mean,

how many times have you seen? - Yeah. - That's not what we need in Italian sub. - Like, I love Steve clams, that's on him. - Yeah, I like big clams.

- Yeah. - I like sushi. - Yeah, that's a chicken food. - That's a chicken food. - Yeah, big time.

I thought, you know what's the one one chick food that I love, yogurt. - That's chick food. - Salmon, like salmon. - Yeah, salmon.

- Yeah, salmon.

- Salmon is one one, chicken.

We should have just done the chick food. - What is, we should do that next. - What is the, - What are we just talking about? - We should see more fish.

- What's the most masculine vegetable? - Ooh. - Yeah. - How's Taito? - Corn, no potato.

- It's a root, right? - Taito is a, is that a veggie? - Corn. - Corn might be Taito's are vegetables. - Vegetables, okay.

- They're just starchy vegetables. - I'll say broccoli does take like a little bit of, although not too slow. - Not too slow. - In they steam it, yeah, they steam it.

- They put lemon on it. - It's a whole thing. - Yeah, they make it a whole thing. - Nothing broccoli is the most masculine vegetable. - What about the taste of your own blood?

- Pretty masculine. - Yeah, what it means. - It's funny, guys. - It's beef and broccoli. It is the most masculine vegetable you can eat.

- Yeah, the little, the little, the little carrots

in your, uh, kung-pau chicken. (laughing) - That's the most, that's the most masculine. - Agile peppers. - Yeah.

- Oh, chicken parm. - Although, chicken parm can go good. - Chicken, chicken, parm, for sure. - Okay. - The green onions that are shaved on top

of a chicken parm. - The scallions. - That's the most masculine vegetable. - That's the most masculine vegetable. - What's the most masculine vegetable?

- You shave a little, partially? - Yeah. - Either parsley or sometimes it's like the little bits of tiny green onion that you put on top of it.

- Yeah. - It's a garnish. - It's a chicken parm, you're eating. - It's not like actually part of the dish, man. It's like the green sprinkles they put on it.

- Oh, you know what, chick food? I like, I like tuna salad. - Yeah, I love tuna salad. - A big ton chick food. - Egg salad, also a chick food.

- tuna salad, very good. - But I hate it when they don't put the onions. - Yeah. - The chicken salad is a must food. - No, but chicken salad with grapes is a chick food.

I love it. I love it. Dude, the grapes are so good in it. - Yeah. - Oh, I got to have the onions and chew it into the salad.

- It's a must.

“- You have to have the, what about biscuits?”

- Oh, biscuits and gravy. - Yeah. - That's the perfect match of one food right there. - Yeah, what's more masculine pancakes or waffles? - Pancakes?

- Pancakes. - Oh, no waffles. - Really? - You think so? - Oh, you need your little crunch, you need your little squares.

- No, the crunch, it's so soft. Pancakes are literally soft. - Yeah, we pancakes are no one's got to do this. - They're soft. - Pancakes, I have just not said it.

(laughing) They're just thinking about their picks. - You're just thinking about your picks. - I like a wild man's in a pancake. - I'm talking about food for them.

(laughing) - That was like good. - I know that I don't have the passion for food that you guys. - I, what do I say? - What do I say? - A pancake is no frills.

You just pour the batter onto the thing. A waffle is-- - No frills, you pour the batter. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I would pee if you had to have a little--

- It's fancy. - It's fancy. - An iron? - It's French. - It's French, it's French.

- It's fancy, yeah. - Yeah, pancake is a man's like, you just, you just, bam. - Put the batter on the hot thing. - Yeah, and it's also, I mean, offensive wine, play, pancake.

- Yeah, you know, awful, someone. - I did wobble one time and get waffles. - There was a couple of weeks ago and they did the sandwich draft and I spoke so passionately about my opinions on the sandwiches that I now I have to come back every Friday

for the same segment. - Oh, no. - You played yourself into it, John. - He did something like that. - He sounded like he was a politician when he was giving

the stump speech for the Italian grinder. - Yeah.

“- It was pretty impressive, but I think most of it was”

because he was just sick of talking about an exterior on a using AI because that was like two segments that they did on that show. And Max just refused to admit that it happened. - Well, I mean, people do light reading before bed.

- Zach, help us out here.

- Most masculine dessert. - I mean, is it a Suzuki? - Is it ice cream with the cookie? - Can I order you? - Suzuki?

- Can I order you a good pick? - Can I order you a good pick? - I have a shot of espresso. - Yeah, yeah. (laughs) - I have an unpopular cannoli opinion.

- I don't like 'em. - I'm with you. - They're not great. - I think they saw it.

“- They're not great, the shells are too hard.”

- Some of those are still. - Yeah, it's not a good dessert. - Every chef. - Every chef. - Every chef.

- I want to eat it. And I want to eat it thinking that the shell is going to be soft.

And it's never soft and gooey.

It's always. - Why would it still? - Why would you think it's going to be soft? - I wanted to be soft. - I wanted to be soft.

- I know, I wanted to be soft. To be better if it was soft, right? - No, what would it? - Frankly, it'd be much better. - No.

- PFC, yeah. - I'm going for other. - A tines don't do dessert well. - Can we talk about tear missoo? - No, I'm not as big as tear missoo guy, but the cookies are always dry.

- The colored cookies. - The rainbow cookies. - They're so terrible. - The canolees overrated. - Yeah, the canolees fantastic.

- No, I am biasing the fact that I just like high-screen as my dessert. - Jalaado is delicious. - Yeah, Jalaado is good. - It's actually different. It's much different.

But yeah, listen, canolees, great food for other people. Not for me. I'm sick of pretending to like canolees. - All right, I agree with you. - You're wrong, but that's okay.

- I'm living my truth now. Now I will say there is the if you're a canoly dip. Yeah, great. It's the same fucking No, no, no, no, dude. It's a canoly. It's a one bite and then you're just fucking holding like a miss what do you think they may canoly dip out of canolys and it's much better something magical

“It's honestly better the less shell it has in it. Oh, most masculine dessert might be like you're getting back and always most not had I've had your canolys”

Maximum the canolys straight out of heart of Philly. Oh, you know, it's not like this who are seeing tomorrow. Oh, no We should probably cut this I mean security Mike's gonna kill us. Yeah. He was swear on he texted me. He's like kind of swimming your pool right now And I was like yeah, not where we're going pool. I don't have a pool at home The uh, but yeah, he's gonna kill us. Yeah, he likes he's gonna be like he loves canolys

Canolys he sleeps to the canolys. They're frankly not not very good Maybe a bowl lucky charms the dessert as a man dessert. Yeah, or when you I was Popped the top of our back. Oh, we need to go back for a little bit of dinner. Yeah, that's true Yeah, I think pie pie is a nice masculine dessert. I also think that Maybe a masculine food would intake was when you just dry scoop protein

Protein powder. Yeah, I don't think they'll be yeah. Yeah, counter is a food. Oh, hey, any other picks you had. No, we went through them all pork runs Yeah, pork runs. Big mess. That's good Maybe like oh no, not all minutes. Can't do it. He nuts. I was thinking peanuts. Yeah, most masculine nut But they put it on the salad got to be like a probably a macadamian. Maybe a pecan Bull apin nut

Boyle pecan good Yeah, walnut base fogging walnut stock like something that anyone's trying to like you don't no one actually enjoys eating a wall No, you got to eat it in a chicken salad or something like that You're not like going out and getting walnut. What about chestnuts? Max hates chestnuts Not a titty fucker

“All right good show was that was fun food talk”

Well food. Max just knocked on it. Yeah, of course What I text it text it security might be and like oh what the fuck You tell you don't decide to the cops the fact You're literally snitch Max. Yeah, I will have Mike on this week to defend him Yeah

You will have mom to defend all Italian desserts and he's gonna probably fight us I will give you most of the cooking Italian cookies are bad Yeah, and again, I'm also speaking from a place where it's like my dessert is just ice cream So should we do I I'm not exactly a refined palette when it comes to desserts should do a quick

Dinger's only update after one month. Yeah, sure. All right, thanks in first place with 60 Dingers. There you go

By the great tank. I found out I had four guys injured Yeah You got to stay up to date chasing second place 51 jersey Jerry third 49 big cat fourth 44 PFT fifth with 43 Brandon is in sixth with 41. That's got to be killing them That he's in sixth. Yeah, yeah, oh max is in seventh with 38

memes you're in eighth with 35 and in last place is Zach Zach has 29 Zach has two guys who are just in the minor and They're in the miners a couple guys who aren't at the lead in the world. They're tripple that yeah What's is what's called if you're in the if you're in a minor Franco? No, they're not in two miners

They're in the miners wait they're inside the miners. They're inside of mine. They're inside of mine. They're inside of mine

Should we count it? I actually think about if you get D if you get I think if you get I think if he's hitting home runs and

Tell Steven okay, oh my early home, I should count. Yeah, why the hot? I mean, there's gonna be some going yards going yard. Yeah. I'm okay with it But maybe memes and max might not be okay with it because that might put them in the last place. I don't know well from here I'm all right with it from starting now. All right, so tell Jay starting now, Zach's Minor league home. Yes, I'm guessing they're not gonna be hitting a lot of home runs in the miners. How many home runs is it?

I there's no way it's that many. We are starting now. I got two guys on on I L Did I think the rules they've been to now official ruling should be all minor league home runs come as a half home run

“You should get a half home run. I'm fine with that. Yeah, I'm allowed yeah, so text Jay and tell him that”

Half do half home runs backpairs half starting now as well. How about how now sounds good. Yeah, starting now Yep, and I think what we'll do is whoever loses this year We'll just do a video in the fall with Jay and the loser One big video because we got a Jay loss last year. Yeah, so

Oh, Mike said we own desserts I'm gonna have to do some research who what other cult I mean Americans own desserts, right? Yeah, Americans like we have chilly from a cake France now France is good France respect to the French. But let's have some pride boys Mexican desserts pretty good, too We've got it all. Sure. Oh, yeah, sure. Those are great. Treslay chess. Yeah, yeah, yeah All everything Reese's yeah. Yeah, Reese's Canadian's do pretty good desserts, too. What did they do? maple

“French serve. Yeah. All right. Good show. Let's do numbers 17 three 20. Who wanted that?”

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