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WBC Hero Vinnie Pasquantino, Bill Raftery Talking March Madness, Conf Tourney Week, Bam’s 83, NFL Free Agency And Fyre Fest

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Conference Tourney Week is here and we talk hoops with Miami Ohio losing their first game of the year, Duke’s scare, and Villanova out of the Big East (00:00:00-00:19:22). Trey Hendrickson is a Raven...

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[Music] Welcome to part of my take percent of my draft Kings the Crown is yours today is Friday March 13th. Oh shit. Friday 13th. Friday 13th. Spooky it's college basketball conference championship week. We just watched so much ball today and I got balls coming on my balls. I got balls everywhere. Yeah. Hank, how are you feeling about balls? Hank actually he watched so much ball.

His foot fell asleep and then he fell leg. His leg fell asleep. They call it the stranger. He fell. That was paralyzed. Yeah, that's just that's just March. That's March. This is March. Everyone's hurt this time. Warrior. Yeah. So we started the day with the bank because we had our only undefeated team remaining. My removal Hio which feels like a year ago. Lose to UMass. Yeah that was that does feel

like it was two days ago but real quick before we get to that. I feel like we should address on Wednesday. So we recorded late on Tuesday night after the max cross be thing. Yeah. And it was one of those days where we woke up on Wednesday and I felt like by the time 10 a.m. rolled around. Like I wanted to record a new part in my take. I don't even I don't think 10 a.m. I was I was up to like 11 30 at night and I was like I wish we could record some more right now.

Yeah, we had the ban thing. Yeah, what which we yeah we got to get to ban. We got to that. You B.C. We got to get to Trey Hendrickson. We're going to hit all of it.

All that stuff happened and on Wednesday morning. I honestly thought about hitting you guys

up and be like you guys just want to do a just a what you want for old time sake. I've murdered. It's been a while since we've smashed the emergency podcast but yeah. It's been crazy.

Zach was ready. He's always ready. Yeah. You got to be on look out for the emergency pods.

Were you up? I was up. Love it. Yeah. So we but be yeah. So today was college basketball. We're going to talk about all that stuff. Today was college basketball. Maybe we'll hire last undefeated team goes out in the first round of the Mac tournament. Now we get to do the debate. Should maybe we'll hire be in or should a 16 loss. Auburn team that had a double pearl freak out. It Bruce Pearl freaking out and Steven Pearl hit the coach of Auburn freaking out as they blew.

They were like 10 with eight minutes left end up losing by 10.

day it's been. It's been it's been madness everywhere. I think we've said this before but

maybe we'll hire my opinion should be in. I asked the question that they lost first round of the

company. He said 100% there and so well I don't know if they will. I think 100% they should be. I think they should be in. I also respect a hell out of Miami of Ohio for for losing in the first round. To really kick up the debate and extra notch like if they'd lost in the championship then I think everybody would be like yeah put them in. The fact they didn't the first round you're really thank you for starting the conversation Miami of Ohio. Yeah I appreciate that. We need to just

focus on the fact that they're I believe 31 and 1 and not do anything about strength of schedule because I saw the graphic midway through whatever game we're watching and Auburn is 17 and 16 and they have the fourth hardest schedule in the country and my level of Ohio is 31 and 1 and they

have the 340 I think it was. Yeah so we got to just erase that from our memory. You have to

record it. Just go with the record the record. They've only lost one game. Miami of Ohio's record against quad one is zero and zero. They haven't lost a single game to quad one that's that's what I would lead with and then after that I'd say and oh yeah by the way our record overall is 31 and 1 pretty good. Yes it's also it's hard to go an entire regular season without losing your game. I don't care who you're playing if you're playing other college basketball teams if you're playing

other teams that have the same they're in the same conferences you so they have similar resources similar recruiting pools if you're able to go an entire season without losing game that's hard to just wake up every day and not stumble once and 100%. Like every all these small tiny margins of victories that they have it's still hard to do to go full season so it's also it's what the men. It's also just like a good litmus test for what you believe in as a person

and when it comes to march madness and march madness to me is the greatest thing we do as a country. When we put 64 now it's 68 teams have been 68 for a long time into a bracket. It's the perfect tournament. Is it the fairest way to decide a champion? Absolutely not because we know every year that there's going to be some great one-game elimination having to win six games in a row the best team doesn't always win last year's Duke team 1999 Duke team like all these teams

that are incredible they don't always win but I still love to have a little guys in there and I

don't want to see just some middle-the-road 500 you know power conference teams. I'd rather have the story of mine for how I want to see what happens when they play their first quad win one game

in the middle of march. Yeah and you know what if you want to make it so they give you a

little bit more consideration. I'll bring what if Bruce Pearl came back and you said you know what I'll coach the team in the tournament. They might be in. They might live to that. That might be what would push them over the edge. Put my aim even highland. Put my aim. If they don't get in it's a disgrace I will boycott. The half-time show of the first playing game. I'll just say just boycott the early games tomorrow. I'm going to boycott well no if they don't get in. Yeah I know but just

pre-boycott you'll do your boycott and then that will stand. A pre-boycott. Yeah it's never been done.

I'm not a brachologist so this probably doesn't make sense. I don't believe that for a second. Why can't they just have them both play the play in? Well they still have to be in then. Right. Right but that's not like can they do that's an impossibility when you both be in. Yeah it's a possibility but then another team we get left out. Yeah for ratings how it would be electric. Well I've said this before they they want the playing game to matter. The way they should do it is. I'm doing it in

for an Auburns. Yeah you know Sunday night they should have we should know before Sunday in the brackets are revealed it should it should basically say here the four teams that are on the officially on the bubble and we have two spots left and they play Sunday night right after the bracket comes out.

That's what it should be. So it's like an actual playing. I know that I don't want to go to

72 but that would be or whatever it would be 70 but that would be cool. Yeah they're actually we say they're not officially in the tournament. The Sunday night game does not count as the bracket. No one could fill that out. Yeah it's just this is how we decide the last two. I do think that Auburns definitely played their way into having their the live feed on screen when they do the bracket reveal. Dave of the team like having the team in the auditorium. Yeah and

having the the camera person there again to see their reaction. No matter what happens they have the right they've earned the right to have their disappointed faces broadcast the world during the bracket. Yes they've also they've played their way into J. Bill is doing like at least five minutes about how they should be in because they played such a strong schedule. And honestly they have played a really tough schedule. They beat Florida. Yeah they've got impressive wins. Yeah they played

Purdue. They played Houston. They played a lot of tough games early in the season but they didn't win them. So that's like the old age old like if you play the tough game but you don't win it

What how much credit you get.

That's how good they are. Yeah or double digits. Yeah. They've had a lot of like single digit losses though. Yeah but they've also lost double digits. Yeah. Max. Bill and Nova's safe. Yes. They lost the George town. Yes. They're safe. Correct. Right. We're sure. Yes. Yeah. No, Nova's just going to be the team. They're going to get in and then everyone's going

to be like oh yeah this team this team is losing first round pick against who pick against the

one. But we're sure they're in. Yeah. I'm like not faced by this bit at all. Okay. I'm curious. Yeah. Right. You sound I mean you and Titus were just did it for the entire second half of the game which was because we're telling you we're sure they're. Yeah which was like annoying to just listen to while I'm trying to watch the game but other than that like it they're in. So it doesn't face me at all. Max. I got a question. It's the worst bubble year of all time.

I know they had one in the bubble keeps the bubble terrible. Yeah. So like yes they'll probably drop a drop to the eight nine which sucks because then even if they do like it just there's a zero percent chance that Villanova gets to this week's 16 now there is probably a zero percent chance

as a seven as well but it doesn't really matter. More rests going in in next week.

There you go. Yeah. I mean listen I'm I you today you wanted to win because like I'm in the same boat. You don't know. I don't know. I just yeah. I wanted I wanted to win today they they fucked around almost didn't beat Washington but tomorrow it's like or today if you're listening is I'm I'm kind of done with if you can't the conference tournaments like they just

fuck you like you like if you have to play four games you're just gonna and you get to the final

which the better than I think last two years you just get screwed you just you doesn't make your seed better and you and you end up being more tired but today you should. Biggie's tournaments differing. I know I love the Biggie's tournaments. I think it's like my I think it's a top three

favorite like sporting events in the world like I love watching the Biggie's tournament. But again

it's all just better because you're in correct but it still just makes me sad that I'm going to watch the Biggie's tournament tomorrow with like no doubt in team with it without looking to fight. Yeah. What are you what are the rest of your top three sporting events in the world? I don't know. Okay. Good point. Good call. MLB Playoffs. MLB. MLB playoffs. Okay. I don't know there's a lot of good sporting events. Shut up. Don't make me answer questions like that. I know you love it.

I know you love the Biggie's tournament is awesome. I know you know what? There's no residency bias about that either. I grew up loving absolutely loving the ACC tournament and it's something. What's tournament is not. Biggie's tournament is the best tournament. Okay. Well Max. You just got done talking now. I get to talk and you're right. I'm about you're right. My y'all. I was over here being like no it's not as good as ACC. The ACC. I grew up

loving the ACC tournament. I don't love it anymore because it's not Greensboro. No, imagine though. It's not the same. PFT Imagine if it was the Biggie's that you loved. Yeah if it was a talent. Right. No. It's like Max. Like Max says the Big East is an Italian league.

The ACC is a North Carolina league. It just is. That's what it's always been. It's a tobacco league.

Mm-hmm. Put it back in Greensboro. I like that. I like that. I like that. Take. No you don't. You hate the ACC. You don't know. I mean it's not the Big East tournament. I mean we're talking about the Big East. Yeah. The Big East tournament said I mean whatever. The crown jewel. Yeah. It is a great tournament. Shout out to the crown. Shout out to the crown. We lost the CBI today. I know that's great. That's fucking nuts.

I love the CBI. The CBI was the moment that I realized that uh like regular life wasn't for me. I was I I had dreams of going to business school when I was like 25 and couldn't figure out what I want to do in life and I paid for a business uh what is it called? The what's the test? GMAT? Yeah. Would GRE? You know I think it's a GMAT. Okay. I paid for a class. It was like two ribs. Like a lot of money to pay for a class to like get

go to the GMAT and I was just sitting in the back of the GMAT updating scores because I had like Oregon State and the CBI. Yeah. And I was like this is this is like what my school is not. They're trying to teach me shit and I just can't believe on games of the back. On a on a made-up tournament. So I love the CBI. Yeah the CBI is it's sad to see the tournaments go away. They should have just not paid for tournaments. Yeah guys. What was the uh

trophy for that? The iconic trophy. Mm-hmm. I'm trying to remember I felt like they did

have and I think you got it. Probably like a long stick with the basketball on top. Yeah, long stick with

the basketball. Maybe like a triangle stick. A triangle stick. Like three sticks together. Type.

You're talking about a bundle of sticks?

Oh, but more triangle. Is there a different word for it?

Is you tell me? I think there is but I'm over it. Yeah. What just search it? Yeah.

Sort of a bundle of sticks. Bundle of sticks. I'm searching for the trophy. No, search bundle of sticks. Tell us if you don't. Oh no, it's a it's a it's a just a basketball. Oh okay. Read us other words for it. Crystal basketball. Um it's a crystal basketball. And that's the CBI. That was our CBI talk. It does look like a trophy that you can smoke out of. Yeah, this is just a bomb. The trophy's a bomb. What else did you find for us? Uh, batten. Okay. Hmm. Sheaf. Yeah.

Kindling. Yeah. Yeah. Any other words? Trust. Okay. You got safe search on. Yeah. That's a bunch. I think so. Oh really? That's you got a little smile on your face. Okay. Fasho. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly. That's French. Oh, no. That's the linebacker from Navy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna bleed bad. Everything that was said. Why? That's me. No. No. I'm editing. I'm not gonna bleed. Yeah. Hank got my whole villain over there.

The worst team ever tonight. You know what that is? That's you being a good plot. Yeah.

All right. All right. So, uh, Duke almost lost. Yeah. That was the other big one. That was you taking a three there at the end was crazy. Okay. So Duke obviously pretty dominant at times. They can't shoot free throws. No. That's going to be a problem for them. Let's see what they're with their free throw. I mean, listen, they're the best team in the country. So I'm not very worried about it. Right. But Florida State, they weren't scared. They weren't scared. Yeah. They're 214 in uh,

free throw percentage. Yeah. Their free throw defense is pretty good though. That's very important. You sat. Yeah. Very, very important. I like those stats. The free throw defense, the like field gold defense and football. They're great. They're great. Very important stats. Okay. Any other college basketball. I'm just excited Friday. It's going to be great. Friday actually is one of the best days. It's like the dirt. When's the conference tournament week? You get a lot of shit teams. Thursday

you kind of get into gear Friday. You have all the good teams playing. Well, every every good team that apply. Everyone is now entered the tournament and it feels like holy shit. This is the day. The stat that we were talking about earlier was how there it's been what like uh, how many

dozens of years since a team that has lost the first game that they played in the conference tournament

went on to win the national championship. So you have to win at least like one game. Yes. In your conference

tournament, then after that it doesn't really matter and then you get to the NCAA tournament and everything happened and you're able to win. But if you lose that first game, I guess it's just more about limping in uh, to the big dance. Yeah. Duke avoided that one barely today. But we have like, I mean, some banger games tomorrow and it's like I said, all the all the buys are now in play and you have, you know, Ohio State Michigan starts off today. I know that Michigan should probably

kill him, but like Kentucky Florida is playing. My badgers are playing Illinois, Tennessee Vanderbilt, rivalry game, pug going up against St. John's. Mm. That's a, roof for St, roof for St, roof for St in hall. Max. Yeah. I would like St in hall to win. That's like you get back in it. Sneak their way into the end of the, the uh, the tournament. Yeah. Okay. Um, let's talk some other stuff before we do that. Uh, quick word from our friends at Twisted T, Twisted T. We love Twisted T,

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We have a lot. You know, let's do NFL free agency. Love it. Tray Henderson's a Raven. This is where we alluded to it, but this is where the Spidey Census go up that the Max Crossby deal falls apart Tuesday. The Ravens deny his physical and then Wednesday morning we wake up and Tray Henderson is signed for exactly the same contract that Max Crossby has. Yeah. Yeah, it's almost like they had it ready to go. It's almost like

they're like oh we can get Tray Henderson who by the way Max Crossby is better than Tray Henderson. Yeah, it completely different players. Completely different players. Tray Henderson is, you know, a past rusher who doesn't hold up in the run like Max Crossby who just does everything incredible

and never gets off the field, but the Ravens are like hey we can get Tray Henderson. So let's say

it's 80% of Max Crossby for the same price and we don't have to give up our two first-round picks and we could pivot if we get, like yeah that's the thing about making these trades where you give up picks. It leaves it so that if you are wrong on the trade you're really kind of screwed yourself whereas in free agency teams screw up free agents all the time. You just eat the cash. Yeah and with this one they send Max back and they send them back to Vegas. I don't know what

Vegas is going to do about the salary caps situation like we said on Wednesday's show. If any team is built to absorb that, it's probably the Raiders, but then I started wondering if the Raiders were going to like what would the market be from Max Crossby and I guess not that many teams have reached back out maybe they got scared off by the alleged failing of the physical which by the way yes Max Crossby failed a physical but everybody knew he was going to fail the physical. That's the

thing. It's like you knew this guy had surgery. I don't necessarily think that there was anything that was crazy when they looked up the imaging and they thought to themselves like this guy's

knees not going to get better. I think it was just because they found out that they had a good option

and try Hendrickson and they wouldn't have to give up the draft picks and they had by the letter the law they had the ability to fail him for the physical. Right. He's not ready to play so technically the ravens didn't break any rules. Yeah so Albert Brewer did a really good article breaking down like how the process works and it essentially what he said was that when you agreed to a deal the Raiders doctors and trainers and the ravens doctors and trainers get on a

call together and they share all the information and that's just how it works. So before the physical even happened the ravens had all his medicals so they had a pretty good idea of what they were doing. And then the physical happens and yeah it's kind of shocking that they failed the physical because it's like it listen they could pretend that they were and I know that Eric to Costa then said that they were in on tray Hendrickson and Max Krauseby together whatever they could say whatever they want

the timing is a little coincidental and it feels like this was like hey we got cold feet

because ravens too like that's the thing where I think we were all a little shocked when the first

when the deal was first announced because the ravens that's not what the ravens do they don't trade

picks like this and take these type of shots so it's kind of out of their norm as a franchise I think they were out of their norm as a franchise and they were like oh shit we're out of our norm we we get it we're getting cold feet let's not do this. Well let's go back and do the thing that we really love to do which is fail guys for some shady physicals that we can sign somebody else. Right that's better than just came a bill and just draft really well which again they haven't

you know been hitting home runs but they have over their history been a really good team to draft it really well. I was kind of on the fence on whether or not to believe the ravens and all this and then Eric to Costa spoke about it and his quote was "nobody is more upset about this than me" that is definitely the thing that you say when you're not upset. He's basically walking around being like god damn it yeah no I can't believe this happened we say that all the time

about our friends that are going through bad losses and yes max nobody is more upset than I am about feeling over tonight yeah Eric to Costa just walk around signing in people's ears yeah damn damn that stinks I really wish you know I want what max cross be what's wrong Eric oh it's just thinking about max cross be again you've got to get over that Eric. Oh fuck so so max goes back to the raiders and then I was like what our team is going to give like the same

deal that he got for the for the ravens no and it seems like they're not but then I started

Reading some quotes from max cross be and he put out this tweet everything ha...

believe nothing you hear and half of what you see I'm a raider on back run that shit yep and he tweeted out an undertaker gift the perfect undertaker gift not be fired up and so now now I'm actually thinking that like maybe the price just went up on max cross but he's because you got you had a pissed off max cross be now that just got shame for having a fucked up knee

he's ready to go like if I'm the raiders I'm like okay you know what make it three first

round picks yeah and then we'll talk because I think max is going to be better than he was

when he was just going out to Baltimore it pump me the fuck up when I saw some I feel like watch out for the raiders yeah watch out for the raiders so other free agency news Kyler Murray is a Viking we all kind of expected it it happened yeah so he's now going to be awesome again well yeah I mean they lost they lost nailer there's speedy slot guy went out to to Vegas so they needed a new wide receiver mm-hmm wait so they went out and got Kyler mm-hmm it's this is still nine

steam yeah don't get it twisted but Kyler's gonna be really good in like two years it'll be the next San Bernal maybe the NFC North now has three number one picks at quarterback with Kyler Murray Kill Williams Jerk off kind of cool that it's cool he's going to look smaller than the purple yeah I did a little photo so I did a little time today with the Instagram draw feature he looks very very small yeah purple it it it shrinks him up quite a bit uh yeah it's going to be an

open competition and you know what this iron sharpens iron so I think that we're going to see the very

very sharp nine mm-hmm at the end of the sharpest sharpest nine you've ever seen yeah we also had

Daniel Jones signed his two-year deal 88 million dollar pays value 50 million guaranteed

I don't know there was a time big cat not too long ago when people went pay $80 million to god that just towards the killies yeah and I feel like that's changed in the last three years or so I don't know I killies used to be something that they they pretty much shoot you for it's like okay you're done you won't play sports anymore enjoy retirement yeah listen Daniel Jones uh had a good half of a year the cults at what point are we like hey

the cults are you are you ever gonna get over the energy luck thing it's been like 10 years now I think I don't think they'll ever get over this is this is their their

attempt at it because but they've made a million attempts I think that they I'm not Ryan Phil

River he don't he don't he's different who else was it cars once no yeah yeah yeah cars once on that list yes dude there's someone I'm missing too with the Anthony Richardson Anthony Richardson Carter mentioned let's see Curtis painter no I'm thinking of like they did that one they did the all right since yeah garden mention all right since Andrew luck Jacobie Percent yeah for a year

Phil Rivers for a year Carson Wentz for a year Matt Ryan for a year gardener mentioned for a year Anthony Richardson for a year Daniel Jones for a year I think Daniel Jones is different because I I do think that he played good enough last year to get an extension to be the quarterback that they want to stick with it just sucks that he tore his Achilles he was a really good player the was the cult's offense was was was very good last year he was I know you think back to

the games where he was he had like the broken fibula for a couple games too I think Daniel Jones is a good quarterback I would have given him in the extension but then the Achilles it's like yeah you know what I'm saying like four years ago yeah I don't know Achilles it's like that might be the end of your career I mean look at Jason Tatum Jason Adams back in like nine months now yeah

what's going on in the Celtics game Hank your locked in down to one second left okay Max pointed to it

one way he was just like luck well you kept talking about the villain over loss and I was like luck you kept and you're being mean to me and I was like be mean to him yeah it's the turn of it it's all a one turn of it when you think about every night you go out there you want to win heck any other free agency signings you want to there were notable of the commander signed an entire new defense which I'm happy about there you go if you were 27 20 year old defensive player

we signed you so welcome to DC Bradley chubbed to the bills feels like the most bills move ever yeah we're gonna get him we're gonna get all we need is just a past rusher who's maybe a little injured get us over the home feels yeah feels like a perfect move for them yeah I think Kirk Cousin's a bad might be going to be ours on the Patriots now say CJ Gardner Johnson's on the on the bills I think Kirk Cousin's might be going to the Raiders yeah which would make a lot of

sense is like him and him and men dozer together out there in the desert mm-hmm would love to see that

Yep that would be fun yeah just that would be very just paint the town red ke...

Mitchell oh memes all the over in the Kansas game that was that was without was huge I love that thank you for that meme uh keyton Mitchell just put his hands up this march maybe now I had that over this march yeah this is march keep Mitchell to the uh chargers right you have a kneel back on the

giants boom yeah boo this guy you see him it with will brick ball boom I do love the never stop

boo it all I love the chargers just continuing a bit it's like we're gonna we're just gonna get old harbour players and we're gonna send them to the new harbour just they've just been a player swapping it's like if they're if you're good enough to play for my brother you're good enough to play for me yeah also titans new logo what do we think uh the new jerseys yeah

new logo and new jerseys yeah I I like the uniforms I think the new logos cool I think uh I

actually think the new logo is like if you're titans fan that's a that's a pretty sick tattoo you can get I think it's a very simple logo if you pull it up it's pretty clean it's very clean I

let on the uniforms I like the the block numbers I like uh the team with the three stars yeah

the helmet is good it's got the six string stripe yeah down the top of the helmet for a guitar good job titans yeah titans really well done oh yeah those are sick I hadn't I just saw the logo I hadn't seen the jerseys it's good uniforms yeah those are sick okay titans it's you know that my attention you know I like about it it's like you know that we love the old Houston oil or powder blue uniforms and you did just enough to make us think about them without

actually realizing that we're thinking about well and also powder blue as a color is a cheat code yeah

it's a complete cheat code you put powder blue on anything and it looks good yeah it's just a fact

so good job titans kind of look like old miss yeah I can see that but I like it I can see that those old miss uniforms are awesome yeah okay let's talk let's talk world baseball classic rope is one other in the story yeah the NFL is probably gonna put a game on Wednesday before Thanksgiving yeah so the Wednesday night blackout Wednesday that's the next date that the NFL is targeting and it's quest to have at least one game of football every day between like

November 1st and December 31st I love it I like it a lot I know I know that people are sick of the NFL expanding today is that they normally don't play games on like a Wednesday night game might feel kind of weird that Wednesday night is begging for a football game I don't think I would like to get rid of the black Friday game and instead have that game on that Wednesday night so this is the take that we we talked about this off air that is 41 year olds uh this game is

great for us if you're in your 20s you're like what the fuck cuz that's a big drinking night I will say though the NFL's getting into a little bit of dangerous spot where part of the reason why we love the NFL is the scarcity is that it's one day a week it's Sunday it's you know a big deal you play like it's not every single night so I'm in for this one but they got to be a little careful here with like during saying yeah the scarcity does make

try to grow the game Hank don't do this I do like no I like don't don't not listen to what I'm saying and then and then say the opposite big cats actually kind of agreeing with you yeah I am I the NFL if it was on every single night would then become like the NBA it would still be the NFL but like part of why the NFL special is there's a it's Sunday it's a religious experience with

Sunday we watch the NFL that's what we do and then also think about and this happens where we have

just shitty Sundays because they've spread games all throughout the week yeah and it's like Sunday should be sacred I don't want them to ruin Sunday I'm cool with this one but like just be careful NFL you might take away the thing that we that makes you special and that's that Sunday is a special thing and you only get 18 of them yeah and if you think the NFL is not going to take over a night that's that's like very special to a lot of people because they like to drink a shitload of

beer on that night yeah the entire league is based around church day yeah on the Sabbath so they they don't give a fuck about interfering with somebody's like bar knight and guess what if you're going to be at a bar you're probably going to be watching football too I don't have a problem with doing it on that Wednesday but you get what I'm saying like at this point I do agree with what you're saying at this point it should be one in one out yeah so you got to take away one of your

other little Mickey Mouse correct games just be careful NFL take away Black Friday that Black Friday is for college football yeah just be just be careful it's gates were getting to this point where it's

like I just I just wanted to still be special and if you start putting games because I always just

Assume whenever they do these like the the one-offs it's just a trial balloon...

we'll just do NFL every single night oh yeah oh yeah and guess what it's it we're a matter of years

away not decades from the NFL doing a spring game and and and I you and everyone in this room our job is to to watch football so if they do it every single night I'm not going to complain in

the fact that like I'm going to watch in the game but then you have to like kind of like you know

we're 41 we have nothing to do on that Wednesday night you have to like step outside and be like wait there are people who like probably don't can't watch NFL every single night that's true and it's very true so but just be careful NFL yeah because I love you to death but just be careful they're they're definitely going to do a spring game yeah a hundred percent which percent now that I think I might I might

be kind of into that yeah it's spring football yeah just one spring game it would be kind of sick

max no how just think about it I don't just think about it out there I don't know what they say well how because it'll make a millions of dollars it's like saving one for later so just save one for later when would you do the draft the game wouldn't count yeah it's like just one for later oh okay college football programs do their spring game and it's like a practice I don't think I

didn't want to care no no people wouldn't care yeah I'd watch but you you would watch like you

watch a Hall of Fame game you would be like oh this is fun and then it would be like actually like a way to see your new rookies but yeah okay so world-based ball classic real quick we're

going to have Vinnie on and he is a Italian American hero Vinnie Pasquadino for the three home runs

against Mexico but what happened is on Tuesday night we lost to Mexico and Mark Duroso the manager no it was obviously Italy Italy sorry Italy Italy we beat Mexico then lost Italy then Italy played Mexico Mark Duroso the manager of team USA one hundred percent did not know the rules and that if things had gone differently on Wednesday night the team USA could have been eliminated before the knockout stage he went on an M.L.B. network show and said before the game against Italy we're

going to try to get some guys and who haven't played we're going to get some guys off their feet because we've already punched our ticket hmm he then afterwards said he missed spoke but anyone with a brain when watching the game against Italy when he was warming up Clayton Kirsha and then brought in Mason Miller you can know the moment that he was like hey dude we

like actually want to win this it's important run differential all this shit actually matters

if you looked at the lineup he put out there too there were a few guys that he wanted to play did appear like it was being treated like an exhibition yeah because he thought he was through the next round yeah and then yeah so after the game everybody has seen this uh this clip from Mark Dorosa and then he did a press conference earlier today yeah you see that and he goes there's some false narratives I was well aware that we had to win that game based on all the scenarios

they went into a no we went into a no actually not true Mark Dorosa you were 3 and 0 3 and 0 going into that game 3 and 0 I don't really I would not trust Mark Dorosa to be no the master strategist we got a problem in fact like a lot of people were talking about the last name um is Italian very Italian and he seemed to throw this game to Italy I'm just saying connect the dots it's a problem piezon I I will say this we play candidate tonight tonight we play candidate right

yes Friday night this uh I'm worried about this game it is everything that we've been puffing our chest about for the last month can be taken away from us tonight yeah I like I know we we we kind of skirt we know with the four nations was an exhibition if team candidate beats us they have just an insane amount of like right back in our face it's going to be brutal we are minus 800 on drafts we cannot lose as minus 800 favorites we can't and not and we were talking about earlier

but when you have something like this rivalry you can't lose the most recent one because there's not going to be another one for a while here maybe in the in the world cup but like Olympics what oh oh I thought you meant in baseball I'm saying if we lose this we are we're they have bragging rights for the foreseeable future we can be like oh yeah we took hockey they're like yeah we took your past time that you are the only country that played for the longest time I guess hockey's

a little bit similar but still no yeah it's a good point we we dominated candidate and the most important thing in the world to them yes yeah but yeah you're right we don't want them to hit up

We can't not as what you said minus 800 can't lose that game can't lose who d...

Logan Webb very good okay what are they sitting out there Michael Sharoka all right he's a Italian

Italian Canadian but he hasn't had one up against another Italian can't get rid of these two team Italy by the way and we're gonna like we said we're gonna have Vinny on so but that was team Italy that's a crazy upset and a crazy ask like they beat the shit out of us can I just say that I feel like the Italian team is more American than the American team a little bit the way that they're acting yeah I'd like to see some of that same stuff from the Americans the double kiss yeah the double kiss

they they seem like they're having a great time they're loud they're boisterous they're arrogant they're fun

that's what I want out of my American teams I don't I don't want Aaron judge striking out in the

night dinning no looking sad okay are you gonna be are you are you pumped for if you watch any world baseball closet yeah you can in oh yeah it's fun I'm gonna have to I mean we have to we have to win we have to win on we have to win I like the argument team I want I want I want whoa whoa what did you say what's the situation what's the if we went in the DR when some are then we play them in the semis oh you like the Dominican team I thought you said do you like the Canadian team no

but but the Dominican team is it's awesome they're they're very fun yeah but if it's U.S. verse the Dominican team you're rooting for the U.S. of course I don't know what was that smile what was that smile he's not what was that smile nope he's not I'm telling you right now he doesn't need to talk anymore Hank is a hundred percent gonna root for Dominican Republic a hundred percent no why don't you leave why don't you leave I would even say that you leave you'd be like Ellen

didn't go live in the town near the English countryside I would be rooting I didn't I'm rooting for a lot of tricks you might as it's a hard for you to say I didn't I said it every time I answered

it the answer correctly wait what do you mean correctly not honestly you said correctly I'm rooting

for you if you're telling us what we want it yes so it's not that's not the right or wrong answer this is your opinion yeah we know but it is also a right or wrong the Dominican team is electric

and I like to be entertained when I'm watching sports you always say that this is crazy

I also say that I was rooting for you it's also very much not a real thing it's also very much in line with you it's not a real thing this might be the most perfect take take out there for the game the Dominican team is like I would rat like I just say just say I want more games with the Dominican Republic team I want I want more of the games if you watch from the Dominican Republic too you've watched you've watched came home drunk on Friday and watch the highlights

that's not count check fucking watch that watch the game last night you watch a full game yeah not I mean most of the game no you highlight I had the game on all right listen I just did I want every single person out there that said that Hank was so mad about the Patriots losing the Super Bowl that he got racist about the halftime show I want all those people listen where Hank's saying right now and apologize to him and be like you're right Hank you're not

racist I'm sorry you're you're just a fucking moron Hank you this is this is is pure like straight from the fucking tipy top of the mountain pure Hank we buy I want to bottle this

Hank up and drink it because it's the best you're you just always find a way why do you want

people to fucking hate you I don't I don't give a fuck that's why that's why I don't lie

actually the Dominican team is a like he's not care like he's giving his opinion his opinion just always is the one that will piss off the most people and I respect it I don't dislike if you're pissed off these people are also are watching the games like it's not it's a fucking entertainment for entertainment everything's for entertainment right yeah and when I don't really have a like I guess whatever I have a dog in the fight oh my god you are the worst Hank I don't want it I love it

I don't I don't want to do this to you Hank but I think I can you how many players on the back in a public can you more than probably USA more than the ACEs more than the ACEs okay all right so that we thought let's hear it taught tease Vladimir Guerrero Martel oh this is where he's with the Tom the soda okay the most electric guy that the guy who's had the most electric celebrations name I don't know I'm letting you get to it I don't I don't got it Austin Wells

That's another one the most he's the most Dominican who junior came in arrow

I think I'm I'm double yes I think I love you do they also have so good they also have O'Neal Cruz

yeah and O'Neal Cruz that is a fun ass team from the guy who wants Super Bowl's played it overseas for his next act he's really really Dominican or Rio Rodriguez is another one we're not there yeah we're not there yeah we play who he plays yeah you probably you're actually probably if we're really break down you're probably rooting for candidates so you don't have to be split no so so do you want to have do you want to have we got to have the Dominican Republic on in the

cave of 530 then right sure yeah you're not watching you know no be watched oh there's there's oh wait there's only TVs in the cave I forgot I swear to God that wasn't a that wasn't that wasn't

no I think he was not I that was not shot no I I I I forgot I truly I will I'll make sure

that Hank's watching Dominican I'll make sure yeah Hank are you gonna be rooting for the Dominican Republic against South Korea yes oh so you're gonna be rooting for the matchup of USA to become an easy to get like a full jersey yeah whatever it's not that so this has been like this is this is this is it is what it is people can hate I didn't give that much thought into this until I realized there are matchup against each other but it is what it is you are going to have

to like Latin music fans brains and a pretzel based on on the last like three weeks of your life dude I like to be entertained I want to hear from anybody not entertained Dominican AWL's embracing wasn't yeah embrace the fuck out of Hank I want you to be like Dominican Hank yeah they're like I want you in the parade just I want you in the parade in New York

there's probably between Dominican Republican Puerto Rico right yeah so the Dominican

Republic probably loves you yeah let's embrace them oh yeah DR Hank skins also will be pitching that game if we got to it let's go uh Paul skins are like really good okay yeah you love them absolute skins yeah okay last I hope it's the entertaining game ban maybe three points do we care yeah me it's a lot of points it's a lot of points my take is that it should that that's a stay on New York City yeah yeah the 83 should

mostly be given credit to the wash and wizards it should be like the wizards allowed one man to score 83 points against them on this day it was such a weird game and I did what I was

watching part of the game live in the first half and bam had I think 43 points at half time so it's

not like the whole game was him getting fouled going to the line etc etc like it got weird at the very end of the game when they were very clearly trying to get them the record but bam had a great game he played really well but the fact is like when you think of the top hundred basketball players of all time you probably won't think of bam at at a bio so yes and what happened was the this was the wizards master masterpiece well we saw they it's not going to

get any more wizards than that like the wizards wizard showing up to cities and playing basketball

games should not be tolerated by those cities they you should look at the wash and wizards

presents showing up in your town like the way you would look at the Westboro Baptist Church and be like no no you're not not not in my city Washington wizards I'm not that's more offensive than magic city night is the wizards coming into your city yeah I uh it's a lot of points I don't I don't buy the whole like oh it's cheap and because you know the fouling and all that stuff every I mean Kobe took every shot in the last seven minutes of his 81 point game will they were just

feeding him the the ball constantly like to get that many points you have to do something like that so I have no problem with that I do find it funny because it was like it was like one last stand for for for Kobe fans to just go nuclear online and be really upset about things and uh a lot of Kobe fan fiction out there yeah I also I also think of a man think about me like I'm not head no I thought the biggest winner of the night was will because when Kobe was number two

Kobe fans started doing the conspiracy theories that no one that the will thing never happened

yeah I don't think they're gonna do that for them no now they don't care yeah so will well you're back to number one yeah so there was a one with an asterix for the for the whatever 15 years of Kobe had it now you're back to one yeah the Kobe fans they uh the it did give them a good opportunity to talk about like what Kobe would have done yeah if he was in this situation

Which is always a treat to see people do that and but Pam also was I mean he ...

ending was a little weird and there's a lot of free throws did you have like 50 and half not just said

yeah the first off he was really good yeah like the he was dominant and he had 43 at half I think yeah so

he he had an insane game and I just it's I think it's more about uh society is it large and this is probably too deep of a conversation to have like a lengthy conversation but I do think we are all just whether it be social media uh the amount of like content we consume every single day I think we're all guilty of it it's really hard for like big moments to have lasting power you don't mean where it's like to be wild mm it doesn't feel like when we had a monoculture 20 years ago 30 years ago

and like a big performance happening like I'll always remember that it just doesn't we just move on

so fast well if you think about the guys on this list right will Chamberlain was a superhero mm he was like the strongest guy ever he could binge press like 500 pounds he claimed that he banged like 40,000 women believe him he was that's as close to Paul Bunny as you can get he scored a hundred points in the game we look at him the same way we look at almost like a deity and then Kobe same way like he's got a die hard group of fans and even people that don't get certain

themselves like die hard Kobe people they recognize like Kobe was a uh incredible basketball player

and a unique personality that like changed the game and continues to have it effect and also it's very set like obviously the way that he died so suddenly I think that looking at that now it's it almost elevated Kobe to now we think of him in that same like rarefire there like don't nothing that anybody does is worthy of being compared to Kobe Bryant yes and then to have bam at a bio go and score 83 points when he's a he's a fine player yeah but have his name

Hall of Famer people people are like well no that that this can't be right because he's not Kobe Bryant right he's not will Chamberlain right and so uh it's also just not a pure score like it was Luca or Steph I mean Steph's different stuff isn't that rare but like there are pure scores remember when Devon Booker had what what did he have like 70 or something yeah a guy like that

is so I think he really had a big game too yeah like pure score that like they can just get hot

like that bam is not in that mold so it's weird for people to contextualize and be like oh yeah he had an insane game I respect bam I respect the 83 points I don't give a fuck about me everything every fan base is gonna say something else is Mickey Mouse so uh this was a great clip that was going around yesterday it was an interview with Brian Shaw and he said that uh Kobe had 62 points and his teammates were like you got to go back in the game Kobe the fourth quarter

and Kobe said now we're up 30 we don't need to right now I'll do it another time and so then now that kind of fed the so that's easily a good thing being like well Kobe could have done it but not respect he decided not to and I also like the fan fiction about like what Jason Tate would have done oh did you uh see that viral tweet is pretty funny yes he just Jason Tate just gets strays everywhere which is not right is what it is so it was uh from Cordell L. L. E.

D. Ruck on Twitter Jason Tate would have subbed himself out of 81 in Texas Kobe yeah you guys would like that's like kind of the joke that people have been running into the ground for four years that's funny that's yeah I didn't say I didn't even know I know I just funny tweet I can see why Cordell did do not know I understand you don't think you'll find any little it's like Jason Tate and anything he does it's like Tex Kobe that's been a running joke that

people have been doing for five years this was funny though because Kobe was kind of in the news yeah because of the game right I understand there was a gift of Steven A Smith when he's like rolling his eyes and it's like Vanessa when she sees another text from Jason Tate him that's funny that's funny

and it's funny oh though I mean I think the Celtics don't you guys play the wizards

next couple days I don't know I feel like Tate I'm just gonna try to go off against us like he Tate him might be out for a while he might be out for blood to avenge Kobe right I don't think so now I think he might be I think he's I think he circled this and he's like Kobe I got you I'm not gonna let BAM still your shine. Jason Tate you know what Jason Tate him might do

he might go out there break BAM's second play scoring record and then change his name to Kobe Bryant

so that the record books will show Kobe Bryant has his rightful spot number two yeah Jason Tate him first got to idolize Kobe that's what I would do if I was Jason Tate him

I can't believe you were in a minute it was like it's like a crazy oh that's ...

I was seriously I don't think I've ever loved you more than in this moment sure it's going to be

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Wednesday night in the world baseball classic it is Vinnie Pasquantino and he uh is off of three home runs and American hero Vinnie you are an American hero thank you yeah you're welcome okay that's great yeah yeah thank you you're I I said in the middle of the game I think we should

give you your American citizenship that'd be amazing I would appreciate that a lot uh yeah

when you said you sent me that after the game I was dying laughing like that's what that's what

this tournament's all about trying to grant citizenship for those Italian Americans yes yeah are you still being dumped from last night you had so much espresso after the home runs I would imagine I got my coffee here so yeah I'm freshly being dumped now for this morning I got I went to sleep it like 2 to 30 I did with any any any any any guy does after they have a nice night I ordered some Taco Bell and it's how many cookies with my wife and we had you know we had a good time so

it was good it was a good night last night I love that and then I I got to ask you though playing for Italy have you been to Italy yes in 2022 we took a week long trip with the 2023 national team so the team that played in the WBC then we we did go out there so I know all the jokes are out there how we're not really Italian but we have actually been there so we've been there you've been there it's all the matters have you heard from anybody uh back in the old country anybody

celebrating how this team's playing I'm hoping to hear from the Pope at some point that's kind of the bowl is here from the Pope so we know he's a white socks fan so hopefully he's a team at Italy fan too but we did an interview yesterday for Italy TV which was which was fun and I know they had the game on on television out there I think it was midnight last night so that's uh it's pretty cool to get some baseball over there and try to help build some development culture that would

be great for the Pope to reach out I bet you he has watched I think I don't think that's crazy yeah definitely there's no way the Pope doesn't know what we're doing there's no way yeah absolutely he's absolutely aware of his he actually probably was upset the Kyle Teal because he's a white

Socks fan the Kyle Teal got hurt that's some of my favorite Twitter jokes are...

upset do you think the Pope is that Kyle Teal got hurt the other time yeah it's very funny they could have ran up things like that if what do you think the Pope is thinking about the white socks catcher yeah is there is there on team Italy is there like a haves and have knots for guys that don't have a vowel in the at the end of their name oh big time like that video that came out where the guy was talking about how the team was recruited that's exactly how it happened if you have a

valley end of your name um we we came after you so think about how it's how you and you have to be

if your name doesn't end in a valley like that's we were going deep trying to try to get

guys to play so yeah if you some of the names on this team are are absolutely incredible like the

names in themselves make you eligible for team Italy yeah yeah yeah that's why when I saw Kyle Teal was on the team I was like this bullshit like he should he like how does he pass but I guess he passed how many is it I would imagine like um in terms of camaraderie is it just a lot of dudes talking about the jets for agent signings yeah that's basically what I'm doing um that's that's all I'm doing letting everybody know how much value we're getting I did actually talk to the jets general manager

last time after the game and I told him brick how how much value I think we're getting so I think I told him I think we're doing a great job and that you know I love not overspending for free agents

it's been fantastic okay yeah because I mean like I feel like whether whether directly related or

or like one off everyone's got everyone on the team has more of a connection to the state of New Jersey than Italy yeah but the state of New Jersey has a ton of connection to Italy I don't work sort of most of the time it's just be the team New Jersey yeah it's good a lot of lot of pork roll egg and cheese happening in our clubhouse we're uh we're getting back to our Jersey splash Italian roots it's been good for the for the fellas do you guys debate that

like is is half the clubhouse Taylor Ham and half the clubhouse is is pork roll Andrew Fisher this beautiful psychopath that he is on his Evo shield like shinguard it says pork roll egg and cheese on it instead of his name it says pork roll egg and cheese oh you guys are the Jersey's home clubhouse yeah yeah this is a national baseball too it's very funny yeah you guys are just probably that it's like jets and giants is the biggest fight that goes on

during this the during this group what so how till gets hurt how close was beyond how close were we to to maybe calling up max were we gonna how many guys away were we to getting max because he did play uh catcher at Hofstra so that's there's a thing you see all I played catcher for like one fall season of my ninth grade well I had a picture I had a picture of me playing catcher yeah hey Zach uh Zach by the way Vinnie is trying to get your home runs from last night to go

to last year's fingers only team he just asked us fully cat but yeah we were we were a few phone calls away at max I tried to get you a try out last week but you know showed us so I was ready to go I was ready to go we were it was like Vinnie was nice enough I was taxed him and he was like hey if Max because he listened to the show last week he's like Max wants to come down and be the team meatball like we could do that it just skedled in work but he was he was offered so you could be the

espresso boy Max you could you could you could port the espresso's for us and that's in the morning

literally just a little bit yeah it's incredible Vinnie I I got a weird question for you

about how things were that he shook out before that game was there any conversation at all about hey if we lose to Mexico and Mexico scores like two runs both of us can get in it's like the chargers raiders game from a couple years ago in the last week of the season you guys both had the opportunity to advance it would have left the US out but it was at some of the ever crossed your mind not not colluding with Mexico the the only question that we asked was

if we're losing for nothing or three nothing whatever it is in the top of the ninth

what do you do because the only way you can guarantee yourself to make it to the next round is by

not winning the game because if you go up five four in the top of the ninth and then they score two runs and beat you then you're out so the only way to 100% guarantee that you make it through in that specific situation is to not win the game but the goal of the game was to win the game like

we did so we never think God we didn't get into that situation because that would have been really

awkward of just trying to like how do you finesse that so I'm glad we didn't and we never talked about what are we going to do because I think everybody kind of felt gross talking about it but it was something that was talked about of what do you do in that situation like it puts teams in a really unfair spot knowing the way that it could have worked out but I'm really happy we didn't

Get into that situation yeah so speaking of New Jersey and Italians there is ...

theorists out there Mark Dorosa is from New Jersey he is Italian was there any handshake back of

the you know you know back of the bar type of deal that went down before the game where he was like hey I'm gonna pretend that I don't know the rules or was he just he just didn't know the rules

yeah I think he just didn't know he's doing his best to not talk to any other team so

even though he talks about his job is quite literally to talk about every single player all year long and yeah he's got the best 30 guys over there in those clubhouse he's made sure to let everybody know how good his guys are oh I like this so yeah it's been that's been that's been a quite interesting dynamic of having the guy who talks about everybody all year managing the USA team and talking about how good they all are which everybody knows how good they are

right they're very good I like the real lot it's just been it's just been it that's a that's a weird spot to be in for him yeah managing the team trying to get your guys fired up but then at the end you do have to go back to your real job at some point like if he ever says anything nice about the on MLB network do I believe him or do I yeah I think a lot of players are wondering that right now like what's going on with that whole situation yeah the uh and it was it was very

weird you can also see the moment I think that's the thing is now you guys have the trump card if you ever trash is anyone it's like hey remember when you didn't know the rules um that was crazy curse shot was up and that the joke I keep seeing on twitter is like curse shot was up and then all of a sudden Mason Miller was up and it was like wait it's just the moment that they found out

yes had a bit but the players knew the players knew by the way yeah so I think I honestly do

think it was just a misspeak because the players knew going into that game that they were not clinched so I don't know what happened there but uh you know they they found a way to make it in and uh you know they've got an opportunity to try to go win the thing but there's 18s left anybody can win it at this point yeah no it's been a great tournament it feels like the the atmosphere has been almost like a postseason atmosphere like do you guys get how it amped up do you get before these

games dude I I last night in the night before I mean we were winning by eight in both of those games and I thought we were tied or up one the way that crowds were the crowds were phenomenal I've

never had a I've never been more nervous standing at first base with nobody on base winning by eight

runs in my life those did not feel like games where you were up by that much the crowds have used in the USA crowd on on whatever night was was fantastic in the team Mexico crowd last night I mean it's a lot of building I've ever been in and you know been in some playoffs games been fortunate after playing some of those atmospheres but second none these atmospheres we played in the last few nights it was incredible this tournament is is amazing getting 20 countries together to try to

build the sport of baseball and bring people together through the sport couldn't better what did so we had the the the situation with Cal Raleigh who we love in a friend of ours in Randy Roosevelt which I think has been settled now but were you like you have teammates you know I mean that you like Bobby Whitz playing like are you are you talking to the guys you're jumping up with the guys are you I liked it it's a little bit of tense moments going into these games where

they're not everyone's not all buddy buddy yeah well I had like this weird moment the other day where I had a press conference in USA was right after us and I was still in the lot I just only did go shower after practice in the entire USA team was just standing there waiting for me to get done that was the most awkward experience in my life and trying to like chop it up but also we kind of hate each other I guess in this tournament yeah Bobby was you know weird because he

wasn't sure if he was able to talk to me or not but I don't care like whatever the rules are like I'm just having a good time but that that's situation from my understanding Cal and Randy talk to each other before the game and Cal said please don't do this I don't know if that's I don't know if that's true or not but I heard that they had discussed it prior and Randy knew that he wasn't going to do it which is why that that happened and that they're fine that this is another thing

story and that it just became bigger because you know it happened in 2023 with Will Smith and Randy as well where you know trying to fist bump or whatever and didn't do it but then you see in the Dominic in Venezuela game they're like full-on hugging before the game yeah so there's just a bunch of different a bunch of different opinions on it but we're all just competing to try to win games and and some guys need to lock in more and don't like to talk as much on the opposite I'm sure Cal

hates me because I'll just talk to him my entire back yeah that's what he needs good you know good

for him yeah so who do you guys have next we've got Puerto Rico on Saturday and I believe him facing a teammate in Seth Lugo I think he's pitching for Puerto Rico so I'm excited for that he's probably going to try to hit me he loves throwing inside so I'm excited to see I'm going to if he hits me I'm going to charge the mount so we'll get a little roll some rolls fight I like that yeah is there is that an advantage for you or is that a disadvantage because you're around them all

the time but you also never go up against them it could be a little bit above I think I faced

Them twice this this season already and live at that so I've got a little bit...

he's got but that guy's got 25 pitches so he just could pull anything out of the out of the toolbox

in any given time so we'll see is there any amount of home runs that would be too many home runs

free to say no I've had enough espresso thank you very much no never never too many home runs any

I don't hit enough of them so any that I can hit and like obviously I'm just doing it for Zach anyway when you think about how many how many home runs can I put up for Zach that's all I'm thinking about are you in the zone last night I was somewhere last night I don't know if in the zone was the correct answer but I was somewhere and it was just working out although I don't think I really hit any of those balls hard thank God we were in Houston but it was just one of those

heights you just I mean I was over 12 going in so it was more hope and pray than anything I tried to bump my first to bat right before the first home or so just you praying that I could do something offensively to help the team and maybe not go over in the entire tournament yeah no it was it was a great game speaking of a ballpark talk us through I want to hear about the moment that you found out that the royals were moving in defenses ten feet is that one of the greatest moments

your life like how does who tells you that's gotta be up there with like holy shit this is going to rock

yeah I think I found out in October maybe that it was you know 95% sure that it was going to happen

uh general manager told me he was all fired up but I'm kind of a prick I don't know if you've noticed so my immediate reaction was like okay what is I just you know I just hit I just hit a bunch of

homers I'll just do it again but because when it first happened everybody was like oh my god what

a hitters ballpark now it's going to be crazy and I'm like it moved from 389 to 379 it's not like it's making it fucking Yankee Stadium in right field but yeah I mean that ten feet's going to make a big difference I think and they did a lot of research like credit to the royals they did a ton of research I'm figuring out how it was going to affect this specific team pitchers and hitters because I you know I think they have a I think we have five more years on our leasing

Kaufman Stadium so who knows what's going on with that so I think it's kind of a test run for if we are fortunate enough to get a new stadium what what that stadium's dimensions could look like so I'm looking at the somebody did do the math on it and they said that last year you would have had an increase of about ten more homerons with a new fence that's millions of dollars many my hard number would have looked a lot better if it was 42 homers instead of 32 homers

but yeah maybe maybe but it's less it could be less hits though depending on where the outfielders are playing and so you know can't change what you're doing just try to try to stay out of that conversation yeah do you like the nickname passquatch yeah passquatch is the one that I like so I'm fortunate enough to have a mascot when I get on base which is pretty cool he comes out there and walks around yeah I like the passquatch

passquatch my necklace on at all times I don't know if you could see it I got the Sasquatch there oh I love that what's it sounds like there's a nickname that you don't like Italian breakfast which was given to me by a buddy named Joel Penfield he he he does some

media with Kansas City and Billy Butler was the country breakfast and I'm a big first basements

of the name me the Italian breakfast and no offense to Billy by any stretch but I don't want to be in the age oh I try I'm trying to stay away from I don't want to be known for eating food that's not the goal here so I feel like the Italian breakfast is away from all food probably just like coffee and a cigarette right that's exactly what it is yes I'm trying I'm trying to be a bill of health here so coffee and a cigarette doesn't doesn't do it for me how pisses your dad during this

stretch that his name's Dennis like if he's hanging around with team Italy and shit that's it's got it so I know what you're talking about the last time you were on but like this is the time that you need you need a Paul a Christopher Vinny like yeah this is Bruno yeah Dennis doesn't really fly but he he's busy with his high school team so he he's not even here he's got games of his own to win so he's trying to get away from team Italy a little bit and try to he's focused on spring hill

high school baseball right now not team Italy so he's he's very happy being Dennis at this current moment okay alright good so like if you guys will he come down if you guys make it to the final because he's Dennis that's I'd be guaranteed he's he's kind of not allowed yeah if he was Paul he would be down there and he'd be having the time if he's like he'd probably be on this interview in a in a white tank top right now with a few chains for everybody to see there are

there's one of the guys family Gordon Gricefo his family is wearing green jumpsuits to all the

games with like put the tank tops underneath and sunglasses it's amazing I think I'm about to order

a few jumpsuits just to if we do go to Miami for fortunate enough to win on Saturday make make a nice impression down there this is awesome this is like when remember the summer when Jersey Shore like the the show kicked off and everyone just started dressing the you guys are basically

Doing a Jersey Shore like party mixed with a high level baseball yeah I'm try...

the what is it gym tan laundry I'm trying to think of what it could be in baseball I don't know yeah but yeah we're having a good time we're passing out wine post game like it's uh it's been

incredible this uh being able to lean into the Italian stereotypes and it being okay is great for a

few weeks yeah yeah this this tournament this tournament's awesome we're in suits all

out to every game like it's it's good you need to get if you guys get the final you need to get

everyone's grandmother everyone's known all together because that's really what's probably you know getting everyone everyone is just talking about their grandmother grandfather and being like yeah the gravy they made and yeah they're all going to make their own they're all going to make their own gravy their own sauce and we're just going to have a pre game of post game and the club house we make to the final to be it's going to be the most Italian celebration of all time oh well yeah and then

then you should go to eleven afterwards yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah probably don't know about it but we'll tell

you about it Zach you got a question for Vinny what's going on Vinny good to have her to see you again

alright man I was curious uh I just I do want to say I appreciate you so much for you know the blood's one tears you put into this uh fingers only season that was last year and I was curious if given the opportunity what it would take you know get you on an extension you know maybe pick you up for next year anything you need I'll get I'll get it covered I want to finish my career on your fingers only team so okay I would love nothing more I'd love nothing more than an extension with you so you

just you you have your people contact my agent and just let me know one jersey yeah I don't get really guys like that I know you probably do so I can reach out yeah perfect yeah I got you that's awesome thank you for your time good question Zach yeah good question Max you have a question Max so you get and swept up a little bit in team Italy I am I love team Italy it's tough you guys you guys are you guys want to play us again until the final right that's right all right so

we we're we're a good spot of I can still I can now root for team Italy fully and team USA fully what are the chances that you saw that picture you guys saw that picture of me catching you're like we got to get this guy yeah probably low probably low but like we had a conversation last night with the GM we were looking for a guy because one of our guys went down and I said hey I don't know if you heard about guys named Max he's on a podcast he's ready to go that's all I needed to hear

he was at Hofstra for half a season and he's ready to rock three fingers three fingers yeah when you guys were going through the list of guys whose names ended in vowels and baseball did anybody just like throw out like one soda yeah I said show it just like as a he checked show it like soda you know it texted me the other day it said he loved the opportunity to represent the Italians with Tommy fam so we're trying to wait to get Tommy to get Tommy with the

Italians trace back his lineage and see what we got but if he's from Italy he's eligible yeah I've been a year the best man I got one last question robot question RHO BACK dot com promo code take

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are you guys as a team like I know this might sound wrong but like are you like rewatching the sopranos or anything like in the clubhouse that would be really cool

no we're not we do have some Italian music because we do have like some we have I think we have six

guys who are like play in the Italian league and are you know pure bread the Italians is what I'm what I've been calling them right finish the game last night Gabrielle quadrini finish the game for us last night they're providing the the music for us and the the atmosphere of letting us know how to really get back to our Italian roots but no no no no surprise we've talked about a quite a bit but a little bit of godfather references some good fellas in there so we're really

trying to get back to our roots with the Italian movies and conversations in there but now haven't watched anything yet but we do if we like like I said if we're fortunate enough to win on Saturday we've got another flight maybe we'll maybe we'll walk in on Saturday with something yeah so if you guys do win is there going to be a trip to Italy are you going to go back have to get a parade parade I don't know why the Pope hasn't invited us yet but but we'll we'll we'll see we're waiting on the

Pope to make it happen okay yeah you should never have to buy a canoli for yourself ever in Italy

yeah yeah exactly the Pope's in AWL for sure so he'll hear this and it'll be like oh shit yeah somebody will get back to it yeah absolutely I've been a year the best man thanks for joining especially uh it's like seven hours ago you hit three dingers in a huge game you're in a Italian American hero and we appreciate you and we'll hopefully see this summer when you come through Chicago yeah sounds good thanks guys

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the most special guest we could have on in March it is the legend recurring guest bill rafterie he is uh we're getting ready for the madness he's in New York City ready to call the bigies tournament

first of all thank you so much bill for coming back on we love having you on how excited what

what's going through your head right now is we're on the precipice of the best couple weeks of the year well when you when I hear bar stole it you know resonates you know it just has a nice ring to an

Irish but uh just the excitement I I think turning the page is the biggest thing for these

kids and coaches like you've gone through the gauntlet of a regular season with the ups and downs personalities into fear and it's people telling kids things that sort of distract from the success in some ways but it's almost Sunday goes away you know when you're when you're good enough to obviously be a factor in your conference tournament but also uh come and see a time it I'm divided into three schedules almost regular season tournament and then NCAA tournament and I think each one brings a

different personality and I guess the one that wins sustains it the longest or brings it from one section to the rest so but from the terms of the excitement you know we're in New York and excuse me just walking around the streets you know the others sell out for the bigies tournaments and you know people even though people thought the league was down it's still very competitive and obviously you know you're rooting for their own team but a lot of these people stay it's like

a feast for that yeah yeah which uh which fan base at the Biggie's tournament is the routeiest well well well again when St. John's is good obviously which they are you know you've got a lot of these guys can afford the price of tickets right so for the hand-me-downs you know you can't kind of be another one when you think of it and then going over probably would be the third in terms of uh particularly local interest we're one of those fan bases the kids are from the local

icicles here yeah yeah well I uh I just reached out to Dan Hurley yesterday when his brother was let go by Arizona State we're advocating for the Hurley's to team up as a duo again and maybe get Bobby back on the sidelines for the NCAA tournament as an assistant coach if you see him just put that bug at his ear tell me America would would love to see the guys back together

what I saw this morning at their shirt around and we never broached the topic but it's close to

all obviously for him but I think the referees union would be in protest those two together just uh yeah

you know it very interesting combination as you know uh some people always say to me what was the father like on the sideline and I said he won all the games so he was fine the most he was put his arms over his head once a game and said to ref your kidding me but not quite that way and then sit down he used to win 35 games a year yeah yeah but you know it's I wouldn't say it's like

Father like son but I think the intent and the the aggression of how importan...

and how you know each game you know Danny's still thinking about the Marquette game the other night

come out with some of the things that they did wrong and I'm sure he didn't bring up him and his actions

but I'm sure he said conversations with his family and himself and the lead so it isn't just an idea but I just don't think unless you had boxing gloves that'll work out the next one to who to tee up yeah they'd be they'd be confused they turned around and be like I got double hurley say I guess I got a pick one they weren't together but oh yeah and from what I heard that was interesting yeah yes you know yes really strong mind the aggressive kind of guys yeah so you said you you're obviously

there you're talking to some of the coaches has coach patino given you any inkling the elder coach patino any inkling of when if the white suits gonna come back out because we feel like that is the most unfair advantage a team could potentially have is when Rick Patino says hey it's

white suit game you you basically might as well not show up a good off the bus well you know I didn't

see him I'm not doing his games this afternoon you know I'm just on tonight I leave tomorrow for the big ten on the weekend but I wouldn't put it past right to reach back and by most of the tickets that are available if it gets to the end of this thing and he's got to play a couple of these heavy weights yeah listen if it works you know I remember doing a game in Louisville and the he was perspiring and his underwear leaked into the white suit that happens with him yeah

what you might call that a havoc it was very unusual but I don't think I'll do the white suit here right down it yeah by the way you're you're more than invited to come by the bar still offices this weekend if you have any free time we're about an hour or sorry we're gonna mile from the United Center so we love to have you come by and you can bring anyone you want

we have beer on tap for you so I would love it but I think it's pretty you know we get in

Friday I stay in the room to look at the games yeah you can't really go to the arena and watch you know you can't put your right hand on and see your game before kind of stuff and then the Saturday we got a double header and then some they get up to the game and then kid on a plane and try and figure well they'll let us know either before we take off or a little later in the evening where we're going yeah that was a nice this way to say not a shot

well I appreciate that you let me go very easily yeah you know I just judging by the atmosphere there I don't think it's what you call a fine dining spot yeah true you're absolutely right all right let's talk about the big ten tournament though big ten is is loaded this year there's a lot of really really strong teams when you look at a season where Purdue is the seventh seed and they were one of the top teams going into this year what team right now do you think outside

maybe Michigan because that's obviously the answer to who's the best of the big ten but what team are you most interested in playing really good ball right now that you're excited to watch you know I've curious to watch Purdue to be honest with you now you've got time off to reflect you know so to look at the lineup and say each opponent should I play a little smaller should I play a little bigger you've got experience guys I would think this is a great couple of days

off for Purdue you know you know but they can be of course preseason primed us vacation it's

almost always follow through I had them the eye I was thinking and I was state really got after them

as you recall is a wipe out basically so I think they've had some games where they've learned

lessons I think hope they they've learned some you know we're in the end or North Western like maybe form the sleep a little door to course at a game so that that intrigues me the other one is what I case and this is a little bit of a dilemma for dusty yeah by that you don't have a a guy that you could say is your back up point I know he can shoot he's a terrific defender so yeah so now I think he'll be handling the ball more and that

point forward kind of a concept now you know with Kato where without Kato but McKenney is a kid we're going to see playing the NBA so that's really not much of a come down what you think of it yeah so but that that team in the sense too so those two sort of intrigues me and Michigan State the

The bench plus got making shots have got to become a better team you know the...

team as they were three months ago I know they lost at Michigan but they you know they're

they're a team that's they're going to come and play the same way can your team do that and I think that that's the key when you play in Michigan State but that's not slaying anybody else you know the brask is a dilemma with the five out and the way mass plays who can you know

make shots outside and also load up in the lane so I just think it's like a heavy weight and I think

that's part of the dilemma over the years they beat the heck out of one another you know come tournament time I think physically mentally there there's somewhat wet yeah the team one the championship is an old who pretty good since 2000 so that's another point of reference but

I just find that Lee is friendly with mentally and physically maybe more so than any of the others

in the country yeah what's uh which one team from the conference that you think and play their way into the tournament solidly play their way in not not you know winning the conference tournament but winning those games play themselves off the bubble which uh wow that's interesting you give me my Emmy a bit I mean yeah I would do that yeah yeah I think you go under feeding regular season for the full season yeah it should mean something I thought in the end of before you post this

question no I think Ohio State is is one that can really help themselves you know they've been close they've been like Virginia Tech when Seth was down there who's on the bubble every here if you

remember but I think Ohio State has an opportunity to do some damage yeah yeah so the was great

coach said we said three were yeah the uh in the end of the show I mean they are there's such a disappointment they they lose the Northwestern on Wednesday night there there's seasons over the fact that we're even considering them still on the bubble kind of actually speaks to how soft the bubble is this year where teams just are losing like you have a Texas who is on the bubble they lose to Ole Miss all these teams that feel like they can make a move have all kind of faltered at

the exact same time so it's it's interesting to watch that happen you guys as a fan look at a one way and I say go into that game uh the way crispier guards to me that's an even game yeah like you know we take for granted that you should want it because of certain reasons and then you don't realize how demanding it is to compete you know he lost the Auburn gave them a heck of a run in the gistly 16th of October Stake in last year but you know it's tough and you pay for

your sins I think you have to schedule strong in November and December and you've got to win

those games or else you're going to be on the bubble within your conference come this time of year so it pays to do well there the one thing about in the anti-found and again I know everybody is you know threes and tough twos you know the clinic kind of conversation you've got to still score in the low post area it's like you know do you go four times in a row taking a three and come up empty or maybe get it to here so it goes 10 to four yeah 12 to two so I think that was part of

you know some of the reasons they struggled a little bit because they wouldn't worry but more making shots and they could key on their best players which there were some but I just think you got to have a well rounded approach where you can score with threes and you know by the guy the cards turn in the corner find the people and your bigs able to finish at the rim or offensive rebound kick out threes that I mean that's obviously see the best shot in the

game right now yeah Darren DeVries actually said I saw a quote where he was like you know first year in the big 10 one of the things that he's learned is like that the four five position you need you need big bodies you they're they're just there's just guys that are you know if you look

across the league produce always got a monster Michigan or yeah like there's guys just just massive

massive guys you know the freshman in Washington like there's guys that are just monsters and you need to have that to compete the big 10 which speaks to what you're saying about beating each other up yeah you kind of hire armed guards to help you on the need to know yeah but it is the physicality is one thing obviously the ability of the four man to play out on the floor is a major issue if you do play bigger and then that's like a really important thing you know yeah and then getting back

To Purdue that's what I find interesting too.

does Matt fall around for minutes playing Ren where he's a monster in that lone post with the

floater and he's you know he's got a counter as well so that you know bringing them back into the conversation their physical play is impressive and Jacobson and other big kid who can pick him pop so you know sizes important and points inside are important not to be overlooked right well what about what and interesting team of the big 10 Nebraska they've had a great season still haven't won an NCAA tournament game but everyone's expectation that's here is obviously

this what this should be the year where they find some success in March what what should the

expectation be for Nebraska if we if we just thought of them as a team that that did not have

this this past that's just kind of hanging over their heads like what should the real expectation

for this cornhusker's team be yeah you don't digressing for a moment I think it was Rick

Cobb out McGuire I'm making it up and how McGuire Rick Cobb told out I think I should be starting and he said of ahead of home he said you're son Ali and how McGuire said I think it was Rick could have been another player Rick I like you but I love my son and you look at this Nebraska team when your son plays he's got to be the best player or the worst player and that kid exemplifies what college sports is all about he is fantastic and that you know there's

better players on the team there's guys who can shoot better but I think he just drives the spirit of the unit I don't think his dad has to do much of that the emotional end of things but they can score which is really you know in the tournament it's hard to score sometimes kids think a little more is just a good shot they don't have the rhythm or the comfort zone of a home crowd

but I think to your point I think this team can do some damage to be honest with you

you know and meant him mass before he's a very unusual guy to have the guard you can tall the I'm not saying this name right but the kids from UCLA you know he gives them some size and some strength they've got outside shooters Jacobs he can make shots Frick can make shots so you know there there there were really solid basketball team I don't know how deep they can go but I do think this promise of winning a game obviously I so an interview with you the other day

and they brought up the double onions call that you made is there any chance that we're going to get double onions this March did you know who that was against no no who was that well it was Sienna against Ohio State and Ronald Moore was the kid who makes it it was that they he makes a shot at the buzzer to tie it so that was the onions and then you know he makes the winning three and that was the double onions three yeah friend with carefree was at his wedding and

they got they called me at home from the wedding years later you know they say it say again you know kind of a picture pretty funny you know these conference tournaments to answer yes I hope we do get them in the tournament as well but I do think there's an even this in around the

country that you know the first weekend there's going to be great games that maybe the first day we

didn't have other years I just think there's a lot of talented teams that you know are going to be

hanging around and trying to steal it late so I think this might be one of those years yeah yeah

what's the most impressive team you've watched or maybe impressive performance that you've called this year I was impressed with Arizona on the road to Connecticut yeah early on and a lot of the better teams I've had beat the opponent easily but from a distance I do fly to state unfortunately with these injuries now too um gumbo I believe and I don't know factually will be back foster I don't think it sounds like he's out but the twin cadence has really shown strides where it's

not you know the most well the everyone who's a kid of that talent but defensively it's maybe a drop-off just a little bit but I'm impressed with Duke able to take on everybody and what the big kid you know camera the bigger of the two I should say of the twins the positions he can play that he is a nightmare to defend who do you put out of him the

Selfish play I like to compare him to a group of flag because he never forces...

come to him he's a different player than flag obviously but he's just one of those what do you need

right now kind of a kid's and it doesn't come from John suggesting it he just says that innate

ability to read and know it's time to post up it's time to cut it's time to make it three it's time to screen and slip you know he guards and you know they certainly have to protect them on the defensive angles I know without him they're not quite as good yeah yeah um we've got a guy here are good friend Rico Bosco he's actually a statin island guy huge troops fan when I told him you were coming on he was he was like oh my gosh I can't believe you got

rafterie again he's the best so he had a couple questions for you we have been in the booth Rico go ahead fire away yeah bill we actually met in use then you gave me a couple minutes to the time

so thank you for that at the final four. Rico what are you sure it's a variant okay

and we have a lot of kids saying Peters yep we are we actually won the city in 05 you called

some of the advances games okay yeah so um you guys basically your family and then he gave

some of his time to use yeah it's a great guy one of my favorite things on the broadcast is when Jay or Jim they talk about you know you hold in court after the games putting away a couple beverages hanging out who are some of your favorite coaches to hang out with most of her deceased unfortunately at this point you know I did nothing to do with their demise maybe I can truly do a little you know Jay Wright was great when her lows let's see Louis at Dante's used a whole court when

her lows a lot of guys can't handle the loss night you know but let's see who else Tom Young at

Rutgers years ago um trying to I love to say John Wooden but you know certainly I'll leave you as much of a hand guy you just kept one in championships yeah yeah let's see who you are Emily is there it's Bayha Bayheim if he won yeah I was gonna say is there a word loser in the world okay out though that was my question going to be is like is there a guy that there was absolutely zero percent chance that you would ever text or call after loss he'd be PJ and I could be wrong

either 24 or 26 straight times they went out to dinner every night PJ finally won and like the middle just you know a couple years before he made the chart you know made the finals Bayheim we can go out but it's like talk about a sore sore loser obviously yeah Dave Gabbick would have been one because it was both coach and D.D. and then Big East

only because of his grasp of the climate of college sports you know yeah because he was always

Donald D. road God bless him was another guy he didn't drink but he made you drink kind of you know he had lasting power and a great sense of humor but I'm sure when I get off I'll think of some of the other Ed Dunna who was the king's coach but he was in Niagara he recruited Calvin Murphy we had it we had a agreement either way he would go out sometimes regretably because you know wasn't worried about a curfew good question really great question yes you every go out with

coach Kay would he hit the bar yes yeah coach Kay liked his wine you know but you know and army and army generally they would go back you know in the E.C.A.C. tournament we had a very good friendship one of my friendships were good but coaches because they usually beat me right so we've got a long

long well but Mike would be in the Dave Gabbick category where it would always be interesting

just take on the current climate yeah and I've not said this to him but I'd love him to step in the middle of this thing and you know maybe get some respect from Congress and sort of square away a little bit you know what's going on but for another discussion I listen I'd love it too but I don't think coach Kay doesn't seem like guy who's gonna come in and like make the thing about himself you know so he's he's not going to get involved no he but I he would make it about the game

Right which you know I think that that's foremost interesting you know yeah I...

cares about you know do basketball I don't think he would do things it would impact other teams

kids yeah right he's he got he's focused on on what happens in that building do you think

as coach Kay reached out has he been active at all this year would do because I know he had you know the office in the building he goes to the game regretably I have not talked to which I do all my coaches I usually call him say hello when I see him on air which I did recently but I have not talked to him but I I know he's enjoying what John's done you know like you know stick on high school kids and being able to get the best players and you know just fantastic

beginning of this kid's career as a coach you raise very grounded John he's got great insights he really talks to a lot of coaches particularly NBA guys he's got a great relationship

one with Joe Mazula so I think the better coaches keep growing they keep you know they're

they investigate or they they try and pick people's brains I don't think you can stand still any more yeah yeah uh Rico you have another question yeah uh I don't know if he's much of a drinker but the other stories I love hearing my favorite coach of all time Rick Majeras you ever share a meal with him famous eater we we he was very friendly with our kids I guess I Casa Dante in Jersey City we were a ABC camp and we it's now closed was really one of the great restaurants

and we sat down and he said to the waiter give me all of the appetizers and we started and he would eat some of each dish and if he really liked it he would finish those dishes I love that I love that we were we were in El Paso Texas uh YouTube and uh the bear was the coach ascence and we said where should we go is a late game is well they only place open is the truck stop so we went to the truck stop and I ordered a beverage he he he used to like umbrella drinks he wasn't much of a

drinker sort of embarrassing this big strong guy you know having an umbrella in his drink but in the waitress came over and he pulled the table next to us in and did the same thing so he ordered the appetizers and then he ordered a few meals and I had an away day gamlet I felt like

I was a little alter boy sitting next to him but but having said that brilliant uh incredible

understanding of the game his people skills were beyond the norm and it's such a quality human being they're just enjoyed eating and partaking of conversation uh very sad to lose him at such a young age he was you know he had a lot to do with Al's success he had an angry man yeah no there were sobering influence and I don't mean alcohol just the way they looked at things and

you know he get in house here yeah yeah it's honestly a joy to talk to you because I can

I can tell you still love the game you still love basketball is there something like this time of year that gets you especially fired up yeah it well you know being with Jim when he started

Jim dance years ago I did his first two games I think with him one of the Arkansas one of my

ami and I did his first studio show then we did games that had of course you don't even became the prime number one and then to get back with him late my career was sort of a you know just a thrill in a lot of ways so I went from him being a young guy coming from Utah where he did to stay wasn't from Utah but he did the protein there and then to have I an eagle-hoid spending years with uh sort of at the end of my career who's one of the up and coming well he's there super stars

and having better friend of his doing that games because you know but anybody who wants to announce should do pro teams that struggle and you'll try to figure out that he gets through four quarters of a 15 one season yeah and bird was magical and brought the same energy and everybody you know obviously for me watching him it certainly rubbed off so so those book ends and in

The middle of that you know burn was a problem because we come back from dinn...

festive night with everybody and the bar with the hotel would be open and he'd look at me and he'd say

should we have one more and of course I would say why not and then we go over and all the young people

all the young guys on the crew and gals would come but so I've been very fortunate to be even I'm leaving a lot of names out but that's made my life really enjoyable to be in partnership with so many talented guys yeah absolutely well uh but we'd love having you on I had one last question the

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if that could be my honor like you know I bad last question that's a deal all right awesome okay you'll have to get your number to the roller decks if you're okay with that you don't want that cool work and I didn't want that but uh yeah appreciate that bill that would be a life long

honor so first ones on me okay let's say I lost it oh okay we go as agreed to pay for one drink

yeah yeah give me a real basketball question Rico come on all right who's the pick to win the title I mean it's obviously top heavy but you know a lot of people sometimes can go outside the box is it just gonna be chalky like it is last year or who's the team you think is is cutting them down I know they've had a couple of bumps on the road I'm not given up on use that oh smart man there are two freshmen or Senac and Fleming's are the real deal the guy in the sideline

is not just amazing what he gets to do on the defensive end I think in the tournament we talk a

little bit about offense you really got to be a good offensive team to score against use that now there's other teams that are really good and talented you know I was on a flard I like a lot they're coming on uh but you know just something about this use team that's there they're being overlooked and they'll they'll be mentioned so much but I just so I know they bring toughness every day they're on the floor much less story games yeah okay well Bill thank you so much

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Week is that I got a flat tire while driving to work in your sick car in my s...

I wanted to really trade it and yeah I've had I've had I feel like I might be getting banged by

the dealership just because I brought it in got everything fixed felt like I've got banged a little

bit there but it was just like oh you need to get this fix and we recommend you do this and this

and I was like fuck it just do it all then I want to come back anymore I've sent had to go back three times this one I think there was just a puncture in my tire so why'd you drive over nail I think they said it was a pot hole potentially yeah yeah yeah yeah look out for those by the way this just popped in my head like why there should be a service just guy for higher that he's not a mechanic so he doesn't have a mechanic shop but he knows everything about cars he takes your

car into the mechanic shop and just make sure you don't get banged yeah yeah he knows everything you just he comes picks it up as a man that's tough I would do it yeah a lot of times guys are too embarrassed to admit that sometimes we need husbands too yeah that's an awesome idea I think this is an idea I would spend a lot of money for that sir if I go pick up pick up your car take it to the to the auto shop and be like hey man whatever happens I trust you you're going

to get me the best deal I'm willing more than a hundred because it him just picking it up and getting it there is also a service within its own yeah well what about what about talking on the I feel like if the mechanic calls you you can at least look it up online no you need faith I got it because like I've got I've gotten banged by a few mechanics in my day trust me but my kid has last like year and a half but mechanics can smell guys who know cars so like they

know they'll immediately just be right in line like oh this guy knows cars I'm not fucking

with that's my my current mechanic and I have a good understanding the first question he asked me

was like you carry when I brought my car on yeah so you carry I go absolutely I knew and so he

respects me as a gun owner yeah but yeah now you have to you have to just like kind of go along with

what they say with confidence yeah so we need to get this service okay and we could call it husbands for guys yeah like it's actually not just for Craigslist yeah Craigslist and Sam looking for a husband yeah it could be for a lot of stuff like a guy coming over to like look at your roof yeah clean your gun yeah help with the tree in the backyard I saw a kid on the street doing the like those those videos I think we've talked about on the show where they they clear the gutters

like they're all blocked by leaves and they the guy like goes and finds them and clears them out I saw someone just doing that the other day yeah respect like there's a lot of talk these days about you know like the masculinity crisis in America I don't think we have a masculinity crisis I think we have being open about our masculinity crisis like it's okay to say hey guys I'm kind of a bitch when it comes to this not all those can hammer in an ale like Dave right so you could you could

get on the phone be like hey can you come over I need you to take my car into the shop can you cook this steak for me yeah bang my wife like all the stuff like stuff like stuff that guys should not be afraid to ask the masculinity crisis is really that we are scared to be called bitches when really we should just be open about it be like hey I need a husband for this yeah so he's going to take my car in he's going to get a fix he's going to bring it back and I'm going to keep

my pride as a human being and as a man intact but also you shouldn't have driven over that now yeah that was your fault well it was two things it was it was kind of thrilling uh because I got in the car and it's like my my low tire pressure thing went off and I'm like surely that's just an error because I just I just got it fixed two months ago and I started driving him like this

doesn't feel good and I got out my tire was basically completely flat and so the drive

it's not a sick car on a flat tire to the dealership is like this is kind of exciting but a little bit scary and then the second thing is like despite everyone besides you know everyone is like you there's no need for you to get a new car but it's like I kind of want to get a sick car. Well you've been a sick car cut yeah by both of us thanks up now he's next we both got sicker cars than you our cars are way sicker than yours and now you're a little bitch with a flat tire you

guys oh my I'm good now you got no it's a good family car hmm yeah like maybe you could fit like

one one baby in a dog oh yeah I don't have baby or dogs right I know but that's what I'm

saying like you're like going to soccer practice that's a thing it's a it's a very functional for like a righty set of golf clubs and a lefty set of golf clubs. I fit both of us both your kids and do you think the day that when when when when you're on your death bed many many years from now and I want you live a long, long life do you think your golf clubs will show up for to to comfort you yeah okay are you gonna are you gonna leave stuff to your golf clubs yeah you think your golf clubs will

hold your hand as you as you go into the great unknown probably okay hopefully take them with you got this bitchy wedgie to say as he slowly slipping into death yeah bring your sandwich for when they lower you down into the ground I think that there's definitely been some doctors that have like gone into a room somebody's passing away and you guys I can you bring me my driver just like go out holding me hold it let me let me get one more practice way yeah I think I fixed something here

I think I got my grip yeah my grip dialed in let me just make sure I go to he...

ready to go all right so sick car no longer and flat tire should have driven over now and

your bitch for getting banged at the auto mechanic shop yeah okay that's good far fast possibly future sick car possibly future sick car all right I need to by the way wait wait wait wait what do we think they're right where are you about to say say I need I need to get in an accident that told us car so that I don't I have no choice but to get a new car you that sounds like I wasn't

going to say that I didn't say that I think I was thinking it gets in an accident he's like oh my

golf club's okay he just runs out like oh no they're bent Hank I I think he's just loaned your cardimony for a little bit and like Jesus take the wheel we could sell it to Zach for $3 oh is Zach in the market for us not a driver we've learned that he's been in seven accidents everybody you crashes gets back behind the wheel sure that's not true that's true no there are fetal crashes all the time what do you mean those are really unfortunate we're about the guy from

us worst case however is okay but no everyone's not okay someone's not okay you got to get back behind the wheel who's the F1 guy that kind of's face burned off I'm going to move you about it not sure for sure sorry there's a map now now it's Chris Hemsworth Schumacher maybe

no Schumacher got in a ski accident and he basically did the most dangerous one for the

entire light ever tired and they got a ski in an accident and is hasn't been seen since session really sad still he's rush rush rush rush um okay good far for us only care about Connor daily when it comes to race car drivers he's racing by the way he's back he's racing at the end of 500 nice going hard on Connor you got this Connor you got it in like two months yeah but they just announced it like yesterday Nicky loud up got it got his face burned off and then

got back in the got back behind the wheel remember our F1 face that was funny yeah I never never was able

to I was into it I tried I was the first good one though the the first two seasons of uh driver survived a really good then I was like I'm gonna try to watch a race and that's when yeah it's kind of fell off a cliff same I was like oh it's perfect it's like early in the morning I can watch it before the day get started and I turned it on I was like no I still generally like following from a distance I like to know no actually no I I know I don't even like a few

weeks can go by but I'm like oh who's in the lead like yeah I haven't the new driver survived came out I don't really have much of an interest in watching I would say it's it now if one is is is I watch them the I cried I cried I watched the yeah do you know you cry on planes because of the altitude so what they told you I was like I watch the F1 movie on a plane I wasn't even that into it and then at the end I was like tearing up

the altitude and I was like I was like I wasn't even like I didn't even like the movie that much but like the end got me and then I got it because we're on a plane that's the thing yes I actually I actually shouldn't be judging because I got a little theory I did a seeing a mashup video of dudes surprising dudes after not seeing each other for like 20 years it was like my dad's 70th birthday he hasn't seen his best friend in like 10 years and he just shows up and

I got a little theory I'd yeah no I do think there's something to what Hank sang though I watch this race I watched the smashing machine on a plane and I started to cry I was like this movie is not even sad yeah no no but I have one movie I was just like it was on and I was like it was fine but then the very end I was like I you know whatever it's spoiler he like wins a race whatever and I'm starting tearing up it's like why am I crying but if one is is in the camp now

where I'm never gonna seek it out if someone tells me and I'd be like oh that's interesting

yeah push push yeah push push push okay 50 yeah for me I feel like that movie is no no different than Fordvers for our same movie Fordvers for our way better movie way better same movie way better one is a fun is a fun movie it's a good play movie yeah it's very but I had no emotional connection yet still tiered up so I'm ending top gone too is the best play movie my far-face the week actually pretty good week not a lot to complain about except

what what it's blocked I you whatever that's technicality what I'm talking movies to watch on a plane yeah he's saying he likes to watch plane movies on a plane yeah I feel like you're in that's like a block that's fast and fun movie yeah he's also a huge blockbuster

I think I might just cry on highlands because I true because I love aviation and it's beautiful

yeah like this is great having a wonderful time but yeah I had a pretty good week I had a good clean week overall the one thing just quick one we got some some medicine delivered to the

Office this week and you guys got some medicine I haven't yet I haven't got m...

got any information yet I got it'll it'll arrive okay it'll arrive mine got the office on Tuesday

and it involves injecting myself and so I opened up this big box filled with these high

pandemic I felt like a junkie when I was taking I was like we got to store these needles in the office

and then I've never been a needle guy when I go to the doctor if I'm getting a shot I'm always

like a look away guys saying I can't watch I'm okay I can I can deal with the shots I just don't like to watch them go in so now I have to inject myself and I'm not good at it is my far-face I'm not good at at shooting up so I got it I got to do it in two places one is the back of my leg which I'm good at I can inject it into my calf try to get that healed the second one is my ass and I always thought that people are my ass I always thought that I would be like the

whole point of injecting stuff in your ass is that it's easy to inject it into your ass I can't shoot into my own ass I first time I try go with that first time I tried it you need someone else to shoot it into your ass I need an ass I need somebody to lock load up my ass

I'll do it if you need to shoot it and then if you find a cheek I got you okay

okay Max and I talked well I need to end the ass no he needs in the ass in I thought it's on cheek yeah yeah the cheek of my ass in my yeah in my ass cheek yeah we'll shoot it straight in your ass cheek yeah exactly so Max and I were talking about like we should just because we're all going to have this part good for the dude's better dude yeah we might have to send in your ass yeah we might

have to just do like a circle of us injecting stuff into each other's asses yeah um because first

I'll be letting you guys guinea pig this by the way I'm not I don't well first one of the sounds appealing first time I did it was technically when Billy did it to my heart I worked but my leg does feel better since I've been shooting up my calf but like two days my ass it's like they see well I think he actually said it 10 seconds after he put it and he's like wow I feel good yeah no my calf feels great my calf feels really good but my ass it's like the first time I

did it I didn't get low enough because I'm shooting from above so I think I like you basically

didn't hear lower back and I don't know how you did it I hit the muscle the first time which meant that I didn't get the needle in all the way and then I injected it and then I had like a bump so I'm just and then I injected it my stomach yesterday instead and then I had a little bump filled with the lick so I'm just I'm just taking bumps all day like a bump every but the calf feels wonderful do it like Christopher put it in your toe in between my toes

they'll never tell behind my eyeballs to close that that was it crawled under there for warmth yeah I

don't want to I don't want to sit on Blake and kill him like Christopher did to close that but yeah so just like injecting myself with peptides is not no I'm not a drug guy no okay I've to real quick what first is I went to a I went to my son's friends birthday party seven year old birthday party and it was at sluggers which people who maybe don't know rigglyville sluggers is a famous bar where they have batting cages upstairs and I've spent a lot of time at sluggers in my

20s blackout drunk so being there for a seven year old birthday party was quite an experience and shock to the system stone cold sober what's it like when you're sober there weird it was like a living room on Saturday and it was literally my son's friends birthday party and then right next it was a bachelor party so it was it was open to the public yeah shout out to those guys though the bachelor's name was Paul and they all had crisp all jerseys different teams that's a great

cross we got to think of something with max yeah yeah we got to think of some we think max beads I got nothing beads but yeah it was just I don't know if you guys have had this experience or stop and suits yeah like going somewhere that you have like done debotuous stupid shit but as like a sober adult in charge of a young little kid is very bizarre feeling like it's like four video games at work we found one video game to just spit out to all you

do is press a button it's spit out tickets that's all we did we just we just sat there and just and got tickets in terms of a seven year old birthday party it's like that I feel like the floor has way too much beer that's been spilled on it oh yeah for a seven year old sports I mean people were drinking at eleven a.m. at the party like it was like again it was a it was the bar was open no it was quite an experience and then the other one was on Monday max and I went so I can't

talk too much about it because I mean a movie I got a part of a movie that's coming out hopefully sometime in the next year but when I can talk about it's max and I learned something on Monday the change in our lives forever are you guys familiar with French hours do you know what

French hours are I don't know that sounds like something I might be intereste...

interested so Max I showed up the call time with 6 a.m. and they're like hey we're doing French

hours and Max I don't know what is that and they explained it to us and then Max and I both did a fist pump and high five so that might give you an unclean to what French hours might be you just eat the whole time whole time there's French hours we have no lunch break no lunch break but rolling food all day every two hours brand new spread I was when we say rolling food yeah it was 6 a.m. on let's 830 sandwiches 10 o'clock chicken tenders and Indian food

one o'clock pasta three o'clock tacos this doesn't make a lot like in France you go to lunch for you take off work for three hours and then a lot of times you just don't go back to work so that's

all I think they do this to keep the French yeah to keep them happy yeah so it's like okay

we're not doing we're not doing lunch break so we're gonna end two hours early yeah that's things we're not doing lunch break but you just get an insane amount of food all day and Max and I look like the biggest losers because it's like a actual movie set and everyone there is working and they've worked in this industry and we're just walking around like I was there was a point where I was just walking around with chicken tenders in my hands just going French hours

got to love them and everyone's like dude what what are we talking about French hours though we also realize that we do French hours every something in this office yeah French hours is how

we live like that it's like French Super Bowl you just can never take a break you just have to keep

keep eating like in between yeah every half time you get up you have another snack and we took it as a challenge we ate every single course that came out every single I at least had tried every course tacos we didn't try the tacos French hours away life you got to get on French hours all right Zach for the soft my fireface this week is uh so we live here in Chicago there's a big a body water we've got a lake and we've got a river I made it to the river for the first time

this week and I took a route from the apartment on foot my fireface just said I may have wasted entire year inside because you guys right the river sick the river is also Zach lives a 20 minute walk from the river I thought you guys were kind of just like hype it up a little like it maybe a little bit overrated completely well rated I may have wasted several months inside of my apartment so you like the river what about the lake haven't seen the lake yet but like I'm getting to that

Zach let me tell you if you like the river you're gonna love the lake it's way more than sick dude yeah so I I come to you guys with open arms and then apology you were right I told you I'm pretty cool no this is me I would tell him this at once a week I would be like Zach you live so close to the river just get outside 20 minute walk to the river you you'll feel good this every week every week I would say this is me acknowledging that you guys are right okay but also you are equipped better

than anyone I've ever seen for Chicago winters because you do not leave your apartment

that was a that was a skill I didn't know I had but yes yeah you have to do it survival skill

you're survivalist and we did go I did go just recently installed third monitor so if we need to stay

inside again I'm ready oh okay so you're not gonna go see the lake I will see the lake in due time you got to see the lake you got to right you got your Florida guy right do that that's true in Florida would you go outside no oh yeah I would be outside it's a different outside don't I said you would go I'm a different outside you are here the summer he's not an outside got inside he was going to target and that's some that's a lot of how many hours a day would just been outside

a day like per week you must say three days so we're gonna go less than an hour a day I did do we count driving with the windows down no three hours kind of actually like I could be talking no a day three hours a day yeah outside we got like an inch at the house it's like indoor outdoor living you pop the slime glass door so then you're like kind of outside kind of end in the lap that's yeah pool so the pool like I think accessible pool how often would you be hitting

laps I like to pull a lot the pool in my apartment just not as accessible because it's like you got to be hot I think it has to be hot no a fact if you got to be only only adults or tens are at that is it indoor outdoor no it's just outdoor outdoor outdoor um you're hot enough

to you should see this pool bake at you I mean you should see you you should see you at the pool

you know you should see you at the pool what if you hear a hot body what bodds out for the summer yeah I should go to the little pool day well do a pool day at Zach's place I think um we got to do baby steps here we got to say pool day and then I put the over under at one and a half times that you go to the lake this summer I'm making it once for sure if the lake's anything like the river Zach if we add to the husband app it's like you can hire just a really fat dude to stay

Next to you at the pool that's not bad move hmm that's like well that guy's n...

it would be such a good ad yeah that that would be a great ad to it do you are your swim shirt guy

no no you can't no I'm not a no shirts belong everywhere but in the water the swim shirts if you

were a swim shirt is adult you just you look like a child I think the shirts worse than no shirt unless

you're in suctioned like you know he it turns to a sauce yeah yeah usually every credit swim shirts are built to to deal with the water not actual shirt I think they have like built an SPF as well yeah on screen if you're a fisherman that that also plays that's fine but I'm saying no but like there's I feel like if you're a fisherman like then you can be a swim shirt guy in the will because it just is all encompassed right but not from ashore from boat yeah like but you can jump in

you could jump in the water from the boat if you're a fisherman guy wearing the swim shirt right yes but like my kids wear swim shirts because they they're it's like all right we're gonna be out in the sun for five hours they don't want the sun we don't want the sun to like absolutely crush them so if you're an adult doing that you look like a child they shouldn't sell adult swim shirts

no I agree there's always the one ginger guy those like I need this that might be special

okay they're very that is high I need that's bad is true yeah I'm the ginger guy but that's also something that like listen Darwinism like should exist for a reason survival the fittest like if you can't handle the sun sorry buddy well then you can stay inside yeah right like I said you shouldn't be able to use technology to fight Darwinism in like a big picture sense what's acts doing is act is the smartest one by far out of all of us if you had gone back in time

like a thousand years and said hey you can live in this apartment and you have air conditioning and a toilet and people deliver food to your door they would never leave they would be like yeah

you'd be crazy to go back like my entire life is spent trying to find shelter and avoid everything

that's outside so like yeah if we're gonna talk Darwinism Zach might be the smartest guy that we got some days are meant to be inside all days that's true that's true also I feel like we're pretty much done with winter I you keep doing this and it's bothering Hank ran this playbook two years ago I knew and I'll be then I did feel like I did it snowd yesterday I did feel like I was right about this year oh yeah twenty-eighths too and it's not real and like an insane hill soon the hill is bad

we already dealt with this with Hank please don't do this the hill is bad it's going to be find this weekend right yeah my no it's gonna be cold now we're being tanker oh no you're going to be back on Monday it's gonna snow we back on Sunday yeah yeah you guys will be back you guys are golfing all weekend no we're gonna we're gonna watch golf on Saturday after we golf damn college basketball means nothing I thought both of you were gonna be big college basketball when well when did I say that

yeah actually you didn't pft said it well no I said what my schedule is my schedule every year remains the same and I'm pretty sure that they're gonna have the games on at the golf tournament Monday is a high of twenty-three. I don't know if they'll have the games on at the golf I'm sure you're gonna watch golf for the games. Oh wow you're standing out there. I'm not going to have to watch golf on TV so you're gonna get something to be at the golf and then at the golf

there's gonna be TV got it where do you have like a sweet I think so okay okay you were about Friday hanging out with boardle so it's whatever happens this sounds like a sick week whatever it's but it's also college I mean this Friday Saturday conference championship week my favorite weekend of the evening Hank one of the same got it just got it just got to go where boss man says yep

is the same thing yeah did you hear that that's what conference championship weekend when you made this trip

uh yeah I initially tried to get it for a different weekend but then the only weekend that we could do it was going to be when the actual tournament down there was got it based on a lot of different

travel so it was not my first choice of weekends but going to the tournament Hank and Blake it's

gonna be a fun weekend all right numbers twenty three fifty six nine forty four sixty nine forty six seven seven one what's your guest room one nine sixty seven six six six seven hey love you guys also happy birthday to TJ Tampa

Jalex Hunt there's a good chance that I did

who are you thinking Paul Bismarck I did this business bro no dude he DJ Tampa TJ Tampa

this is what we're talking about I know but who is TJ you got it I got a lot of it on

our job announcer I absolutely you don't know who TJ Tampa is TJ Tampa he isn't in the

football player dummy you've got it you've got a locking on our guys so first and foremost

DJ now you're a birthday guy PFT when you don't wish a birthday to our guys they're like what the

fuck it kind of sucks and oh it's awful like that is the yeah I know you think it was lying yeah

no okay I wish with him I got Whitney on his birthday I wish him a happy birthday yeah I screwed up

but business birthday was a show day I'm so sorry that a Mr birthday whatever I can do to make it up

to you I feel like shit you're the best bass love you bass forgive me you you you you

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