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This is Red Eye Radio. All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is her curly and I'm Gary McNamara. Hello. Hi. All right, first. It's interesting because everybody's asking me still. How was it getting through TSA?
Oh, yeah, I was. No problem at all, even if I have gone the regular route.
“But this time I went contactless, which is you have to in the American Airlines app.”
You put in your TSA pre-check number and your passport. Okay. Now, I wasn't sure how it worked. Yeah.
It's interesting, but I can, I'll tell you this. I can never commit a crime.
I'm screwed if I ever tried to commit a crime and they get a hold of my face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's all facial recognition. Yeah. But I walked in and in Dallas, they actually have a line where a separate line contactless line. And I walked right in. There's nobody in that line.
There's a couple of people in the TSA pre-check line and the contactless line go into a different section than the regular cattle. You know, so I, all of us normal people. All of the peots. So I went up and, you know, and I have my boarding pass. Yeah. And he goes, just stand in front of the, stand in front of the camera and I figured
they're going to have some of my boarding pass after. And he goes, okay, Gary, you're done. Yeah, okay. It's just facial recognition and everything's in the system now. I like that. And I said, wow, everything's in the system goes, yeah, and I go, this is pretty cool. You, you move people through very quickly. And then I didn't see that they had it in Buffalo. And so I did it, I went through the regular TSA pre-check line. And then I saw on the TSA pre-check line,
they have the camera then I said, oh, you got the camera for contactless. They said, yeah, we just got it last week. And I went, oh, I should have used that. He goes, oh, you're signed up and I said, yeah. But all I did was show my, gave my license and they did it that way. Okay.
“Yes, they pre-check. All right. But the only thing is they didn't have a separate line.”
Oh, what good is it if you don't have a separate line? Yeah. The whole purpose is to do people through quicker. Right. Right. Right. You know, come on. Let's treat us a lead flyers. Right. The way we should be treated. Exactly. You should get the respect that you've paid for. That I've earned by flying. You know, I'm almost dead. I'm two flights away from hitting a million actual miles. And it's really from just
visiting the vast majority 90% is visiting my parents over the last 20 minutes. People don't know. You don't take vacations. You I did last year for two days. Yeah. I did two whole days. But you have spent every break that we have and three day weekends and sometimes not even a three day weekend and and vacations. You fly back to see your parents and you've done that. You've
always done that. And so what I'm worried about is that if you ever decide to take like a week long
vacation, you know, Jay Leno talked about this actually. Jay Leno worked seven days a week when he was hosting the tonight show and he never cached any of his tonight show checks. He never spent that money. That always went aside. Any he disciplined himself to live off the stand-up that he would do on the weekends. And a lot of that was corporate gigs. So Friday and Saturday night, sometimes it was in a lot of times in Vegas. You get big money, especially a Jay Leno. I don't know
what they pay. But maybe 500,000 a week that you're making, maybe I don't know. And I got into a cab one time in somebody and the cab driver said, yeah, just drop Jay Leno off the airport. And then it was, you know. So and then on Sunday night, he would go and do stand up for free at was it wasn't
The comedy store was the comedy store.
to test material for the show for the coming week. And so he would he would work shut that way. But but he talked about they asked him I forget it was some financial magazine said, why don't you ever take a vacation? You know, take time off. And he said, I feel like if I did, I would enjoy it too
much and that would never come back. So, you know, that isn't the case, you know, with me. First off,
and I mentioned it before and I'll just go through it very quickly. The special relationship and how I got that special relationship with my parents was, again, it was I always knew they love me. You know, my father was very, very strict with us. Very strict. Right. You know, if we did something wrong, we got the belt. You know, my father was a very, very strict. It was very strict, you know, upbringing. And so, of course, when I got into my teenage years a little bit like we all
did, we all rebelled a little bit. But I always knew without question my parents loved me.
“You didn't say it a lot. You know, I don't remember ever saying it. You know, we, we knew he loved”
each other. And they probably, you know, my mother, especially you probably say it. But it wasn't a big going, you know, huge going back and forth. Then I get into my 20s. Once I get into college, I was hardly home at all, even though I lived at home during college, because I was working two jobs. So, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm tell, I came to go to sleep. And I know that, you know, I remember when my father got laid off. And I was paying for so much and I helped them with some
stuff. They didn't really didn't need it. But they, I remember they appreciated that. So I knew that, you know, I was getting my approval of my parents in my college years. And then afterwards, I was gone. And, you know, I was so busy. I was gone for really 10 years. Yeah, working in radio. And even if I lived in town, I had my own apartment and everything else. And I grew up around Saturday. And
we never, it wasn't that we ever had, we were on the outspot anything. I just didn't communicate
with them much in my 20s, you know, about matters of substance. And a lot of people don't. And then it was when I got into talk radio in my early 30s. And I'm doing it for about 10 months. And my parents, I didn't know if they were listening. They were listening every day. And remember the one time being over being over the house in a Saturday morning. And my mother's sitting there, my father's sitting there and they're looking at me. And I went, what? They go,
do you really believe all that stuff you talk about on the radio? Oh, no, I'm dead. I'm screwed. Oh, no, they actually listened. And I said, yeah, they would owe our son. And that actually, I've often talked about that talk radio help build the special relationship that I had with my parents. Not only were they my parents. And not only did, of course, especially my mother,
always still treat me like a child when I came in and said, is that a double chin there? Are you,
are you eating enough? Have you gone to the dentist? You know, your hair's getting too long. How much weight have you gained? Yeah. Besides that. And I always tell people, when they say, my parents treat me like I'm a child. And they always will. Yeah. Because you are. There was a just a understanding on the basic principles. My mother thought that when I was in my 20s, I was just wild, you know, this wild person out there. She thought I was. And I never was. I actually
never was. Just we never communicated. And she just assumed I was in the radio business and, you know, rock radio and all that stuff. And she just, you know, didn't know. So, of course, mother is assuming the words. Hey there. I'm Paula Pan. I help people make the smartest money decisions possible. You're not ever worried about your salary. You need enough to make sure that you don't
“in a bad financial position. Once you have that, your salary becomes moot. What matters from that”
point forward? Upside games. Any type of ownership stake or ownership potential. That's the money. Remember, you can afford anything, just not everything, afford anything. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. But then the relationship really built in my 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s. It just built to the point where, I mean, I would, I would, if you ever have told me that one of the best things in my life would be going back to that Marty's restaurant and clearance center or
sitting with my parents by the Niagara River for hours under retreat during the summer. I mean, just sitting there watching the river flow and reading and I would have told you it would have been nuts. Yeah. And so that's what Talk Radio helped to build that. So going back for the, you know, going back all the time is just, is nothing and now with my father. And, you know, at times it's getting worse. You know, he wasn't, you know, at times, especially if he's tired, you know, the cognitive
“abilities are, you know, really, really degraded. But if you want to see, there's a picture of all of”
us in the, this is really hilarious. There's a, there's a picture of, of, of my entire family around him
In the bed with all of our shirts on, which is the first hundred years of the...
father with the birthday cake, a Gary, Gary, it read I won. And then also I beneath it is the, the, the picture, or the video of my father playing happy birthday was one of the great cognitive moments that he had because he wasn't really that good on his birthday. It, it could have been better. But in the background, I didn't even notice it until afterwards. I'm not looking at it right now. There's a picture of me in that that room is my, was my college bedroom. Yeah. And just after
college bedroom when I live there. And you see a picture of me on the radio when I was in Buffalo radio. There's a picture of me is bad. And I just noticed, I want, I should have cropped it out. It looks like, oh, you took a picture and your picture's got to be in the back. I didn't even got about it completely. But it's really my whole immediate family sitting there around him and it's a really nice picture. But, you know, I owe my, I owe my parents a lot. I would not be the
person. I am today and probably the left would go darn it. Your parents were terrible in fluid on your life. But I, but I wouldn't be the person. Well, there's something, there's something to that. I mean, you know, I'm not going to say liberal parents are bad parents, but there are things that if you're teaching a child, certain things, and you're instilling fear, I have to question your motive. And I have to question your overall concern for your own for the welfare of your own child.
And again, I don't promote getting into people's homes and telling people how to govern their own children. I think that's a, would be a horrible precedent to set.
But what these young people learn sometimes, not always. Some of them remember Chrissy
Hain and the, and when the pretenders had the back of the fourth with Rush Limbaugh over the theme song, and ultimately Rush won that. But, but Chrissy Hain came out and said, you know,
“my dad loves Rush Limbaugh. Yeah, I know. I remember that. So it's, and so that, you know, that”
happens too. But if, but there are some cases out there of these kids learning this in, in the home, and, and to me, it's just far from healthy. It is. And there, because if you're looking at teaching a child, giving a child the greatest chance at survival as an adult, there should be the preparation for hardship, but the responsibilities that come with that preparation. And, and, and that being prepared, you know, is, is everything. And, in, in every way,
because once you get out, got to get out into the world, you are on your own. The left ones you believe that you, you shouldn't be, that the, that the government should be there for you. But the fact of the matter is, is that you, there are decisions that you have to make, and you have to be,
“you have to be prepared for those decisions as an adult. So, I, I said, I think I said,”
it's at Gary, right, I won. At Gary, right, I won. I think I said, at Gary, at Rhett, I won. It's at Gary, at Gary, right, I won. If you want to see the picture, the entire family around my, my dad on, on Saturday.
I've often talked about that, you know, my, my father always said, you're not going to be able to
depend on anybody. That's how he, that's how he viewed it. You know, he didn't mean family, he meant out in the world, which is why when I was 14, he said, you need to be prepared for the real world, which means you need to be good at three or four different things. You can't just take one thing in college. And I remember that debate was even back then. College or trade, he said, both. Yeah, he said, if you're going to be prepared, you have the ability to be prepared in three
or four different different ways. There were no excuses allowed. Oh, did I tell you that one of the, at the, that happened on Friday? What? One of our, one of our listeners, I told my, my family and they went, oh, man, we should have done it on the shirts at my nephew got made that said, the first 100 years of the hardest and my father's picture is on it. Yeah.
“So one of our listeners said, you should have put, you know, letters on the back, D. T. J.”
Oh, you want to? Oh, man. Yeah. And there wasn't one member of my family that disagreed with that. They went, oh, we should have even my nephew who got the, the T shirts made said, oh, man,
it would have been perfect. They go, we never thought of it. And D. T. J. For people that don't know
Is, and that probably when people respond about my dad, I get that the most D.
basically do the job. We, you know, start doing chores around the house. We have a D. T. J. When
“don't line, get the job done, get the job done. Yeah. My father was always about getting the work done”
and the most horrible thing ever is when I was a teenager, I was thinking of having fun and relaxing and vacations and everything else. And now I can't believe it. I've become my father. I love work. Well, you know, but it is, it's funny because it goes back to that movie. Oh, James Garner, the gift. But yeah, it's, that gift of work, that, the satisfaction you get from accomplishing something. They actually measured that in a scientific study several years ago
about when you accomplish certain things there, it's actually, there's a hormone that's released. Because in your body and you're, you're getting the satisfaction of being able to accomplish something.
You know, they always, like for me, cleaning is like therapeutic. If I've got the times and
set it aside, you know, I can, it's just, I feel so much better. I hear a lot of people say that. But yeah, you do, you do, you do the work, you do the job and you finish the job. You know, that's one thing that my wife was raised on a farm in ranch and one of the things was, yeah, you're going to get up, get up really early because there's lots to do. In fact, you're going to go out before breakfast, come back in for breakfast and then go out and finish
the job. Do it right the first time and buy one or two in the afternoon, you can hang out, watch a Western or do something else because the work is done. Yeah, it's interesting. I can, I can golf and I love it, you know, and I feel that that's productive,
but you put me on a beach and this is really incredible because I was a beach bump for three years
in the 80s when I went to Navarabeech last year for just for two days in Florida. Yeah, that was my minivocation. I was bored after a day. I wanted to get back. It's like I'm not accomplishing anything. Yeah. And then it was like, and even that day, I'm like, yeah, the, I mean, I took the walk after the morning after going to the, you know, the sea turtle museum and we're, you know, walking on the beach and the pier and looking at everything. I'm like,
I'm done. Right. It was like I was, it's yeah. And you realize how your priorities change. It's like, no, I'd like to get back and do something else. It's, yeah, it's just amazing. Yeah, we go for a few days a year, but you know, I take it, we take the grandkids and, and that's what I want to do. If you're with a bunch of people and family, it's different. But to your point after a few days, I'm done. Yeah. We are right. I radio brought to you by FPPF, fuel power max.
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We are when I'm radio. He is a crony and I'm Gary McNamara coming to find the bottom of the hour. Tomorrow is what? Tax day. Oh no. And here we just had a very brief and we'll get into a more detail, of course, on a tax day. But a very brief lesson is on, you know, or comment on
what is a fair share? That's the one question I've never got answered by one liberal ever.
“What is the amount of fair share? The rich should pay their fair share. What is fair?”
Nobody has ever told me what that is. And this was really interesting. You know, one of the complaints I have is that you can never get liberals to talk to you and tell you what they believe. I got into a conversation with a liberal couple over the weekend and I made you so sick.
Fascinating conversation coming up.
Observing and analyzing the insanity, they recurly and Gary McNamara,
“likely on red-eye radio. And he is here crony and I'm Gary McNamara.”
All right. Two tax stories here first. Wall Street Journal had a editorial over the weekend. A tax day lesson for Booker and Van Holland. Tax day has arrived and Senator Cory Booker has a bill to raise the top individual income tax rate to 43% from today's 37% Senator Chris Von Holland wants 49% both proposals would also eliminate income taxation for many lower earners. The latest stats, okay? Because what we hear is
the rich have to pay their fair share. Yes. Right. So right now, according to the latest numbers from the IRS, the top 1% of income tax filers contribute 40.4% of the revenue. The top 10% of filers paid 72%. The top 25% of tax payers 87.2%.
The bottom half of filers 76.9 million returns in 2022. They paid 3% of income tax revenue.
Their average rate 3.7%. Those percentages are an overstatement because refundable credits are categorized as spending and are not reflected in IRS data. The Treasury Department's Office of Tax Analysis estimates the average income tax rates are effectively negative for the bottom 40%. The bottom 40% of taxpayers get a get money back that they have not paid in taxes.
“Taxes are actually accredited to them. As we've stated over and over again, what is fair?”
Right. What is the amount that is fair? And you saw last week, think it was the Fox News poll. People blame the President and Republicans for taxes. You can't find a president probably since Reagan that has cut taxes the amount that Trump has done that has helped the middle class. And the poor already aren't paying any income tax. They weren't paying any income tax before Trump aren't paying any after. Right. So it was the
middle class that got a huge tax reduction and the population still believes. Even a significant portion of Republicans that billionaires need to be taxed more. Yeah. That's where we are. Right.
“But the fact is, nobody will basically what it is. I do believe it's, you know, people self-interest.”
If we can get the government to tax the group of people, we will never be and don't tax us anything.
We're happy with it. Yeah. And we can, you know, maybe get by with again, lower taxes and not have to pay the front of it. Now, it always comes back at you near post of this story. Massachusetts town at war over proposed 50% property tax hike. A quiet Western Massachusetts town is being torn apart by a proposed 50% property tax rate with neighbors stealing yard signs from one another and some residents warning that could be forced to sell their homes.
Residents of South Hadley, Massachusetts head to the polls today to vote on proposals to close the
local budget cap. One would raise 11 million. I love this. They have two proposals you're ready for this.
One would raise 11 million for the town and an average property tax hike of about $1,700 a year. That's the one proposal. The more modest proposal on the ballot would generate a cool 9 million increasing average property tax bills, $1,400. A single family home, valued at about $417,000, could see their annual property tax spike from the current level of 5600 to 7,000 under the 9 million plan. The levy would be a painful 7,400 and $3 under the 11 million approach,
Which means under the big approach, it would be roughly $1,800 increase in yo...
got to get the state's got to get the money somewhere. Well, you know, we talked about this during COVID. We talked about how cities were losing revenues, states were losing revenue and inevitably, they're going to have to come back years down the road and here we are and they're going to have to raise taxes. I'm grateful that we live in a state in Texas. That's lowering property taxes.
“And we're on our way, in fact, to doing away with property taxes. I believe at some point. I don't know”
if that will happen in our lifetime. All I care about is how it affects me and my age group. And the older I get, the greater advocate I have become for seniors. And it's a thing that, you know, I just think you'd learn what time. And it actually is the case with 65 and over. And the discussion in our state capital in Austin with lawmakers has been all right. Well, we can't do away with the property tax altogether. Although the GOP would love to do that in our state. The talk was about
all right. Then what is what should we be doing? And because we definitely want to reduce it. And it, this idea came about, well, for seniors. Let's say they've been, they've been paying property taxes for 20 plus years, maybe 40 years in some cases. And at some point, we should
throttle that down to where they have less of a tax burden. Because the concern has always been
with property taxes. Is that you have full equity in the home, but not really. Because you always owe property taxes. Even if you pay your property taxes that are due, the next payment starts
“accruing right away. And that's how it works. So you never actually have full equity in your home.”
Because there is that tax burden on that home. And with a fixed income, it is much tougher too. Because you think about property taxes going up, valuations going up, but also property rates, or tax rates going up. And then it just becomes next thing you know, oh my gosh, I'm basically making now a mortgage payments all over again from where I started years ago. And that is, of course, something they're trying to remedy in Texas. But I can see states like Massachusetts and
other states where it's going to be more and more higher property taxes. The left would love it to be. They would love for no one to own the property, the government to own it all. They would love
that. All right. So one of the questions I've always talked about is the fact that we can't get
anybody in the left to ever talk anymore. We don't know where the voter stands because the voter is so quiet. I met a couple over the weekend that, you know, say, well, you know, we look at both sides whatever, but clear they were liberal. I'm not going to get in any details of specifically where I met them or anything because I want to respect their privacy, but they were a couple of traveling through, through Buffalo, to go on vacation. And I'll say in their in their 30s. And we had a great
discussion. I got them to talk. You know, because they asked me what I did. I told them and then they wanted
to to pry. And there were a few topics that we hit. First off, of course, the first thing was
Rovey Wait. And it was a young woman that I had a discussion with and, you know, was talking about with the Supreme Court made the wrong decision. I said, "Well, they did." And I said, "You know what their decision said?" Their decision didn't say abortion was illegal. The decision said that, because you and I followed it and in depth, the decision said that the first Rovey Wait decision was wrong because abortion does not appear in the Constitution and Congress has made no law on it.
And the Supreme Court said and looked at the Rovey Wait Court and said, "You made up law. You can't do that." And she responded, "Yeah, but it's right ago." When I talking about
“whether it's right or wrong, we're talking about, you know, what they actually said. And remember”
the no-kings protest was just here. You know, Trump and everybody else on that side, you know, they want to be kings. Well, the Supreme Court were basically saying that the Supreme Court that voted Rovey Wait, they were kings. And so it is up to the people of the United States to do the laws, not unelected bureaucrats. Well, I mean, it's still, you know, basically that was it.
They couldn't answer the question.
We always want to find out. When I told them that Russia collusion would Trump never happen,
I got that look. They had no idea what the hell I was talking about. So no Russia collusion never happened, you know, even if you haven't looked at the Mueller report found nothing. Right. They found absolutely nothing, but now we found out how it happened. Yeah. It happened because Hillary Clinton and I went through the whole thing with the FEC finding them and how it went through Perkins, Kooey, and then to what was the other one? The next one. Fusion GPS and this and how it was
put together, you know, so much of it put together in a drunk fest with the Gidanchenko all the,
“they looked at me with glazed eyes and they go, we don't believe that. I go, well, that's what”
happens. You can go and find it yourself. And they said, well, we don't believe anything that we read. I go, how do you come to your opinion then? Right. And they sort of looked at me again. It was a blank stare. How did you learn what your opinion is now? Right. How do you exactly? How do you have your opinion? If you don't believe anything in your read, you're believing something. Right. And the final one was, these are the three that stuck out there. We're actually more.
And we left. It was great. We left and everything else. And I actually saw them. The day later at the airport and we had great conversation, which to great luck, whatever. Extremely friendly people. Sure. But the next one was said, well, I don't know where this came from, but the gentleman there was all over. The Colin Kaepernick thing. Colin Kaepernick. Oh, I know. I was talking about the censorship of Twitter and everything else.
Well, what about Colin Kaepernick? They tried to censor him. So the government never tried to censor him.
But people said he wasn't a patriot. He wasn't. Well, that was simply people's opinion back and forth. You know, but how can you consider him a patriot? You know, there are people that wear flags all the time on their clothing. And that's against the US flag code. And I went, that's a suggestion. The US flag code is not law, but they still do it anyway. And they did call it said he's not a patriot. And they're not a patriot by wearing flags. And I said, I've never seen a person wear a flag. You see it all the time.
They've got emblems. That's not a flag. I had to pull them. I added something. You want to go through and look it. We'll go through right now with the US flag code is because you can wear anything. If they're stars and stripes, the US flag code is about taking an actual flag. Yeah. And wearing it is clothing. Now, many people have a preference that it not be the case. I don't want to have it on paper plates or
“paper gobs or whatever. Quite frankly, I think anything that displays pride in America is okay.”
As long as you're not wearing an actual flag. But that we, yeah, we're just talking about the flag code. What does flag code do? And I said, I'll get it for you. I don't believe anything that I read. How do you come to your opinion then? It was amazing. I could not get them. It was almost as if
there's dots out there. Yeah. But none of them ever connect. Yeah. They never, it's as we said.
Well, the story is never finished. You never go from point A to Z. And everything is connected along the way. Well, the thing is is that they live not only in the bubble of today, but they live on the island of basically. I won't say disinformation, just disinformation, but lack of complete information. It's also lack of full information. Because if you don't know the full story, and we've talked about this, how we'll sit and talk to people away from the microphones. We're talking to people in our
everyday lives and talking about the whole Russian collusion thing. And they're ice-glues. That's exactly what happened. And what they're talking about. Because they buy the headline, they see the headline, they see the New York Times, they see a late night comedian, say it or a group of late night comedians, and that for them forms a consensus. And it's for them becomes their reality because they're in like-minded groups.
Oh, yeah. Well, we all know he colluded with the Russians. Yeah, we all know good. Well, you don't know anything if you don't know the real story. Right. And they didn't seem interested
“to find out. Right. That's the other thing. Yeah. No, no, interesting. Well, what's your name?”
Who said, now that there's bad news about Hillary, my friends, my liberal friends, turn off the TV, pouring down, pouring down, and they shut the door, and they draw the drapes, and no, we're, you know, we close ourselves in. We are right, I radio. Coming up more with Gary McNamara and Eric Carley. It's right, I radio. We are right, I radio. He is early and I'm Gary McNamara and I'm looking
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days that they can drive on the streets of Minnesota. Okay. Unless there is a club activity,
“tour parade exhibition or similar event outside of those situations, owners of collector cars”
would only be allowed to drive their vehicles on Saturdays and Sundays between sunset and
sunrise. So excuse me, sunrise and sunset. Backwards, the nearly introduced bill would overhaul
“how the state handles collector class vehicles. Owners could still take their cars off for test”
drives. This is almost like the water restrictions. Yeah, I got my water restriction notice, which is the same all year. Right. I mean, unless we're in a real drought, it's still the same.
You can only water your lawns, sir. I days the week we've never had one in my neighborhood,
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