08-07-26 Part Two - Hooked on Music

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And here we are to a Friday. Hey, happy Friday, everybody. Football. What was the Hall of Fame game happening yet? I don't even know.

I don't football is going to be starting here very, very soon. I haven't been paying as much attention, because not that I get to watch a lot of games during the years, Sunday is a work day for us, and it just is becoming possible for me

to watch much football, you know, any more, but normally I pay a lot of attention to see what

goes on at training camps. Yeah, I just haven't. They've just been swamped with a bunch of other stuff, but the real American sport begins now.

“I'm just trying to tick off, so I think there's what is it, maybe that, you know, the person”

that listener who told you one time that I look like a tough guy. Yeah. Yeah, they commented. Yeah. There isn't mean part of me that just wants to, for some reason, because you and I've talked

about it before, to argue what's the best sport or the best music is really an exercise in futility. People like what they like. Right. Right.

You know, it's not like some of the other issues we talked to, but there is a right and a wrong. Yeah. But why do I get so much enjoyment out of getting soccer fans angry by saying things like soccer socks?

We're really doesn't sock, but what is this? What is this need in me to irritate other people when it comes to sports? I don't know.

“My wife asked me that about me the other day, what's this need you have to irritate”

people. What? Huh? Well, it was, I have to tell the story, it was a, I had my, I had a small poo party last week, had my chosen daughter, her husband and her kid over for Swim Party.

Yeah. And she's 30. I think her husband's 30 or 31. Okay. Their kids.

Yes. Their kids. Yeah. That's whole. And I was when I started working here.

And so, of course, when I'm back in my pool deck, tunes are always playing.

Yeah. Yeah. And I said, well, let's turn on something you guys, and you know what they like and they were talking about, which is all the music and, you know, like, a lady Gaga song came, oh, she's just, and I'm like, okay.

And then, then a bunch of other stuff, and I'm like, okay, and I said, well, I said, you know, everybody likes their own kind of music, even though this sucks, and then I'd like, they all laugh. They all, you know. Yeah.

So, well, there's a lot of music that sucks, unless I, you, quite frankly. Well, let's go. You, let's go over the list. Well, you and I, you and I love watching Rick Biotto on YouTube, and he's into that thing.

No, about how much music sucks. No. Well, what he talks about is not just music sucks. Why it sucks? Because of how it's made, you know, what the songs are about and what they, you know,

and the features of a song or the presentation of a song, and he gets into, he's a professor, a teacher of music. Somebody who was studied music, he's got a formal education in music, and then also has experienced years of experience as a producer, as a writer, as a musician, so he knows what he's talking about.

But he makes these solid points, a great follow, Rick Biotto, B-E-A-T-O on YouTube. Yeah. And, but, and he says, he'll say, you'll joke sometimes because I look, I don't want to come off. He's a couple years older than me.

He says, I don't want to come off, you know, as the old guy going, ah, today's music is horrible, and he will go through some songs, he'll say, okay, here's today's, or right now, here's a top Spotify song, but he'll give recognition to, like, and he'll go, no, and that's, that's a good song. Yeah, you will.

You know, it's not the, it's not what it may not be what he listens to, but he does recognize. And there, you know, that's the thing over the years will, you and I, like, Lady Gaga,

pink, the same thing, I mean, she's, you know, she's a far-left liberal, I've actually

“seen her in concert, that took my daughter to see, in sync, she opened and crushed it.”

Her band is amazing, she's an unbelievable, she does performer.

In fact, the, the one guitarist, when, yeah, he went from, did he go from pink to five-finger and that puncher was that guy. I don't know if it was him or the drummer. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

And so, I mean, they, basically, that was the, what the music for, what do they call it, higher hands. Yeah. Yeah. The higher guns.

The ones that, that actually make an artist sound fantastic, and they're the ones

that can't party and get drunk, they're pros. Because if, if they mess up, they're the ones that get, there's the, they're the ones that get fired. Yeah. I'll make a simple thing.

But for me, with music, there's two things. And I think it comes from, you know, my father, as I told you, was absolutely growing up during the '60s, the, the counterculture just drove him crazy, just drove him crazy. Yeah. So, the music, everything else.

So, all we had in our house when we were kids, Bach, Beethoven, Chikowski, Strauss' Waltz's, John Phillips's, his marching bands. That's it. Yeah. That's it.

“The only thing allowed to him was classical music.”

realized the classical music has a ton of repetitive hooks, you know, "Den-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en-en and you think it because people talk about and they can people can get snobby about classical music, but it has repetitive hooks all the way through it, yeah, not all classical music does, but the things that most people do have it. There's one thing with pop music is a hook, which is great, but I love great hooks with what I call counter rhythms.

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The U.S. soccer podcast presented by Henkel. And listen on your favorite platform. Yeah, and that's what I love. Some of my favorite artists, and sometimes it's not even a genre that I listen to, but these artists that I respect greatly, you understand that each member of the band has a part, and they nerd from tool, actually was talking about that, that, you know, they each of the members of that band, they have their own parts.

And if you listen to their music and dissect it, even if you don't really care for that kind of music, and dissect it, what each of them are doing, you know, Danny Kerry on drums, he's unreal. And it's all of them, the entire band is incredible.

But if you think about that, the best bands, the best groups always had that, and it wasn't always formulaic.

In fact, quite often it's not formulaic. Yeah, I've always referred to it, since I was like, "Hey, team somebody says, what do you like about music?" And I said, "The counter rhythms."

“Yeah, it's like, I don't, nobody's ever used that term, that's the only thing that came to my mind, where everybody's doing their own entire thing.”

And if you're right, it can cross a ton of different genres, but still a great hook is a great hook. I still love a great hook. Yeah, you know, you go back to the '60s. I love a great hook. Well, you look at, you look at, for example, the, what do you call it, the wrecking crew?

Yeah, the wrecking crew were talented beyond the music that they were doing. No, they, but they knew how to make great hooks. Totally underrated at that time, because they really weren't promoted. They weren't really the artists, but they were the power behind the artists. And I saw an interview with Jim Peterick from Survivor.

No, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he wrote, I, I forgot. He wrote, um, was it, uh, vehicle for I'd Submarge? Ah, really? He was in that band. And he wrote it for his wife, who he's still married to today, by the way. And he talked about, he got this call. This band Survivor that he had started.

Got it. He got a call, and it was on his answering machine, because back then, that's where you, you know, left your messages. You know, there's the slides alone. He wanted to give me a call.

And it was actually, so best just long.

“And he said, I want you to write a song for my movie.”

I'm doing Rocky III. I need a song. And so how they put together I had the tiger. But the hook in the song, I had the tiger. Has been around, I mean, since then, and still, and Peter, mentioned this.

He said, new generations, it just takes off over and over again. Because it just has that hook. Done, done, done. You know, he talked about it. And it was, you know, he said, it was just one of those songs that really had that lasting power.

Jim Peter, it does a great song with one of my favorite female singers of all time from Transuburian Orchestra. Chloe Laurie. Oh, called Prom Knight in Pontiac. Oh, wow. It's a, I mean, it's a pop song.

Yeah, yeah. And you would look at that and you would say, who is this woman?

I mean, she's, because it's much more of a pop tune, but with a rock thing and basically her operatic voice, which is incredible.

But yeah, I just, I, some of the stuff he's done outside a survivor where he brings other artists in is just, is just superb. Well, it's, you know, it's the lone cause.

“The lone cause, and it says, you need to redo, you need to make lightning happen twice.”

A miracle happens twice for the next movie. And we need, we need a survivor song just like I had the tiger because it was so big. You know, it was so catchy, it was so big. It was everywhere. And so they did burning heart.

Now, they had Jamie as the new singer who sounded like the first singer who had vocal issues and had to lead the band. But they, that song also just boom became a huge, huge hit. You know, that's the thing is that these writers be out of sat down with Billy Joel. That's an amazing interview. It's an amazing interview.

It's just talking about the process of all these songs and what was going through his mind. And, you know, and it was like, wow. I, you know, these creative people that do this and then have the talent because he's playing all this classical stuff at the beginning. Playing all this classical piano is like, what? Oh, yeah.

I mean, some of the, some of the, some of the, some of the, some of the obscure stuff. You know, for me, when I got into Ace, adult contemporary radio and hell, we said a play.

She's always a woman to me in 78.

I just got so sick of that song. Especially the lyrics where they said she takes care of herself. And I was like, well, that should be a minimum standard. I think I would think. Right.

“I just, I don't think that's something that you need to bring up in a song.”

I mean, that's, that's a, that's a given. As you said, minimum hygiene should be just a natural basic requirement. I would think so. But yeah, he's, there's so many talented, but the talented musicians out there. I mean, like, for example, with the, the one disappointing thing about Prince,

is I don't think that the world ever got to see, except in short bursts, winning an incredible guitar. Me in concert, they probably did. Yeah. But I mean, in general, the popularity of his records did not show what,

what a great, what an incredible guitarist he was. When they were recording the night, they were recording, we are the world. The Grammys were going on. So they were putting everything together. Quincey Jones and Michael Jackson getting everybody together.

And it's, if you're from the, you know, that era, it's, it's, it's, it's, that's, you heard that song far too often. But it's this big deal to get all these artists in one room. The Whale and Jennings, it took too long because it took them all night. They did it after the Grammys.

And all went the studio and did it in one night. And they had called Prince, because he was in town. And they said, you know, we want you to be on the, on the record. Because, okay, great, but I want to play guitar. And they were like, well, no, this is a, you know, it's, it's, we know,

we need your vocals because no, I want to play guitar. Because I'll do vocals, but I want to play guitar. I want to have a guitar part in it. And they were like, that's not what the song is. And, okay.

And so he said, nope, turned it down. Wow, I saw him, the other day a clip came up on YouTube. He was 19 when he first appeared on American bandstand. 19. 19.

Oh, yeah, I've seen, I've seen the big, man, he just, he's so shy.

Now, I never saw Prince, but I will get to see, again,

his intellectual property lawyer. Oh, yeah, who's lead singer and writer of the, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of the ocean blue, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who was also, yeah. He's got, he's got a full time. That's a full time gig just doing that. Yeah. And he still, he still makes new albums.

Tribute bands, yeah. You can do a cover song.

But you can't be a full time Prince Tribute artist.

David David shuts all the ocean blue. Yeah. His intellectual property lawyer. Yeah. Which is interesting if you talk to him.

He doesn't really want to, doesn't get into long conversations about both professions. Right. But they still produce new albums and everything else. They got a loyal cult audience.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm one of them. Yeah. We are right.

Oh, and the whole point is, though. So you're in a cult? Yeah, exactly. The whole, the whole point is, you can't, even though I did miss the Scientology Grand Opening

of their new thing in Clearwater the other day. Ah, the, yeah. But the, the point is, you really can judge sports and music. But football is so much better than soccer.

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You know, we had played the audio cut earlier where Bernie Sanders said, "I don't know anyone who was against to fund the police." Yeah, right, Bernie. What is he taking? Yeah, and I asked that question because remember 2020.

Oh, yeah. And everything that has happened since then. Oh, yeah. He doesn't know anyone.

“Now, is Bernie Sanders telling the truth or do communist lie?”

I'm going to take the second one for $500.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's one of the things. And I'll just say this. His pants are on fire.

But, but, you know, granted, we've been doing this for a very long time. But don't you think the first rule of politics should be? Don't say anything that is contradictory to what everyone knows is the truth. Yeah. That is self-evident.

Exactly. That is self-evident. Do not take the opposite opinion. If you know that they know the truth, right, why would you try and lie to somebody? If you know, right, they know the truth.

Right.

Because when it's self-evident, it means they know absolutely what the truth is.

Yeah. And so in Bernie Sanders comes on says, "I don't know anybody who's against to funding the police." My God, the entire Democratic Party was just a few years ago, including Bernie Sanders. Like, here's an example in my personal life. But I'm walking through the kitchen, my wife will say, "Who ate all the Oreos?"

And I don't know. But if she comes to me directly and says, "Did you eat all the Oreos?" I already know she knows the answer. Exactly. I can't lie to her.

Right. You can't lie.

“But wouldn't you think, and Bernie Sanders, I believe, is older than I am?”

That's older than everybody, I think. Or do you just not care, do you actually, but the only way you would do that is you know it's a lie. You know that some people know it's a lie, but you think the people your base are such idiots, where they'll buy anything. It has to be.

There can be no other reason for that. Yep.

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So, no. But when I was talking about Bernie Sanders, you know, stating that he doesn't know anyone who is against defunding the police, where basically it's a main, has been a main stream opinion of the Democratic Party since really 2020, so that's six years.

Since the summer of 2020, that's been the narrative. Defund the police to fund the police.

Remember the whole thing of, well, what we need are social workers on the street.

And then it has evolved into now with police and prisons. Well, when we get rid of poverty, there will be no need for police, there will be no need for prisons because there will be no crime. Well, we all know that's ridiculous. That's another argument that they're making that nobody buys into.

You got to do what US House nominee Chris Rabs said on Hannity the other night. And Jonathan Turley caught it. He said on Hannity last night, what you do is you bring up, you bring up an argument like this. The people might have to research a little bit of it,

which of course, Turley does constantly and just blows the guy away. But here it is.

“And this is where you have to assume the people that you are talking to are complete idiots.”

Don't do any research. Believe anything that you say and you can sell them anything. House nominee Chris Rabs insisted that the founding fathers, the framers had no eye to excuse me. The founding non-justating parents had no idea of what policing was.

And thus abolishing prisons is just part of the involving meaning of that term. So the founding fathers, excuse me, the founding non-justating parents, had no idea what policing was. There was no concept of policing. Is that true?

As Jonathan Turley said, absolutely absurd. In the 1600s colonies organized the nightwatch forces that were the precursors to formal police departments. The British governor also enforced criminal laws through their own forces.

Constables were prevalent. The ultimate example is John Morton who served as a local county sheriff and justice of the peace from 1757 to 1774. He signed the Declaration of Independence. So they come up with a scenario that, you know, in history beginning of this country.

There was no concept of police forces. So really it's something that we created that we need to get rid of because we're using the founding fathers argument that hopefully will be able to convince Hannity's audience that if the founding fathers didn't have police or didn't consider police, well then we shouldn't have it now.

Except it's completely and totally inaccurate. False. Yes. Now I don't know if I can call it a lie because Chris Rab may be completely just an ignorant stupid human being.

I mean, yeah, to make, you know, to try to make that case. The other thing that I saw truly wrote though that was also great yesterday.

Let me see, I'll find it here in a second because this is another thing

that she'll hear from Democrats now. We've been talking about how Democrats are going to form. We talked about how Republicans are forming their arguments. Also talking about how the Democrats are forming their arguments for November. It goes, seeing an Abby Phillips corrected a guest said,

I will say, El Said did not and does not support defunding the police. When she was confronted by CNN's own reporting that he called for defunding the police, this was her response.

“Well, I think that the question that I'm fundamentally asking is,”

By dredging up the sort of wedge issues of 2020,

And Terly says, Well, the point is he called for defunding the police. It may be a wedge issue when a candidate wants to return to the state of nature. This is the same reporter who dredged up an attack line against Bernie Sanders in the presidential debates that.

“And so the entire, so that's what they're doing now.”

They'll make, she'll make something. Oh, he, he doesn't support defunding the police. We said it in 2020. Oh, so now you're dredging up something. He's said in 2020.

Yeah. As if because he said it in a particular year. Right.

And abstract year that Democrats first brought it up.

That it is no bearing on today when she said he does not support defunding the police. It's dredging up. You're dredging. You're dredging. So why don't you go into the past.

Right. Yeah. You said it recently. Yeah. That's the past.

Unreal. But that's what they do though. Well, you know, they did it. Who was it? Was it?

“Was it J.A.P. listening to parents whose children were killed by illegal immigrants?”

Oh. This is the fourth time we've done this. Oh, my God.

Can we basically, can we move on?

Yeah. And then on the Fauci thing. I forget the ranking member that said it. He said. Listen, we want to focus on the future, not the things for the past.

And I'm screaming in my mind. I actually set it to the television as I'm watching it. I said, um, if you can't learn for the past, you're going to repeat the mistakes of the past in the future. That's what this is all about.

Making sure this doesn't happen again. Getting to the truth. You learn. And this is what they, but this is their tactic. Oh, so you want to dredge things up.

Oh, so you want to go back to the past. Things are in the past. Really? Okay. I got two words.

January 6th. Ready? Go.

And this is, you know, this is exactly how they operate.

It really is. No, you know what it is. This is like a really failed attempt by a teenager. Yeah. Sun.

Hello, I'm your father. And I noticed that you came in real late last night. Like Julia. Dad, are we going to just sit and focus on the past? Listen, I noticed yesterday.

You know, they were, I saw you drive out of here. You were speeding yesterday. Oh, so we're just going to keep focusing on the past. I guess the question in politics would it work with your parents. Should be.

Yeah. The key thing. Say it out loud to your parents. Right. We shouldn't bring up anything.

By the way, everything is in the past. Who did? Was it Mitch Headbert or somebody? I don't, I forget who it was. Said, oh, this is a picture of me when I was younger.

Well, technically every picture of you is a picture of you when you were younger. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, I mean, it's. But yeah, if you say it, just picture a teenager saying the same thing to their parents. That's the argument right there.

“I mean, that's how you settle the argument.”

Yep. You sound like a teenager making a weak excuse. I mean, they've done it with everything. Spending. Uh, the, you know, to raise the debt ceiling.

Well, just because we raised the debt ceiling another. Hundred trillion dollars of dollars. Yeah, doesn't mean we're going to actually use it. Dad, just because you give me a credit card with a $10,000 limit on it. Doesn't mean I'm going to spend $10,000.

Come on, dad. Look, not that not that politicians have instead of certain things before it. But really to me, Obama's image was, was the tribalism was so great. I mean, I really believe that's where the modern tribalist movement started. Was it a problem?

You know what? That's a great point. I, I really think that's where it's, I'm sorry. I'm not saying that there is in tribalism and hasn't been towards Trump.

The tribalism for Obama is not where it was. You know, back then. But the, I do believe that's where it started.

“And I believe that he thought he could just say any stupid thing.”

Because I do believe that tribalism depends on the politician believing that the people

that support him are complete ignorant idiots who have no critical thinking skills at all.

Because who would say that? Right. When he said that just because we're raising the debt ceiling, doesn't necessarily mean you're going to spend it. For example, if you have a credit card and the bank increases, you're, you know, the amount that you can, the, what do you call your limit?

You're, you're, you're credit limit does not necessarily mean you're going to spend it. Well, that's apples and oranges. Yeah. I don't have the obligation. Many people don't have the obligations that the federal government has.

We knew, we know every, and how do we know it based on experience? Every single time they reach the, they, they've, they've come to raise a debt limit. We've reached the debt limit every single time. Yes. That's every thing, not not okay, 98% of the time, but 2% of the time we don't.

Every single time. Yep.

But that again depends on you believing that you can say it's like when he said,

when Obama said that the, the reason there are no jobs are because of the ATMs. Remember that. Oh, genius. Wow. That genius statement.

“Let's say that like on GMA or, or the today's show like on the, I think I,”

I don't know why I seem to think that he said it on a, unlike a national broadcast morning show. But you, when I just picked that apart, you know? But, but it's the same thing that, and, and I know, I saw our, our, our buddy Richard, who sent me some, he, Richard is sending me something that has almond flour in it. I think he sent me low carb baked goods.

Oh, yes. He heard us talking about, you know, talking about my type 2 diabetes. Yeah. It's supposed to come today. I can't wait to get it.

Well, nice. I hope it's not. You can still have almond flour though, and it still have a lot of carbs though. But we'll see. Well, I'll just make it and whatever it is, it's probably going to be a baked good.

I'm hoping so you didn't vary, you know, small amounts. But he said it, you know, when, when it showed that, you know, they're not seeing the job layoffs. They would thought they would see with a eye that these companies are still hiring. And he is, he said the exact same thing that we have said. History is shown that every time there's even been a massive increase in productivity.

For God's sake, so I mean, going from agriculture to an industrial economy.

“You moved, remember, you had, as they call it, in capitalism, the creative destruction of probably what?”

95% of jobs over my 60 or 70 year period. Yeah. That doesn't because we were 98% farming. Right. And it's like 3%.

Right. And maybe it wasn't that great over that time. Maybe it was 130 years where you had that change. Because now what is it? For our means what?

2%, maybe 1%, used to be 98. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, you had massive job destruction in there. But then massive job, way more massive job creation.

And we saw, for example, post World War II. When you think about the job creation after World War II that brought all women into the, well, more women into the workforce. There's more women I think of the workforce now than men, I believe. Yeah.

There's more women than men. Right. Right now. And the baby boom that's not going to happen again. No.

No. No. And we've got a very low birth rate. Right.

And so all that brought in, you know, still handled the incredible growth.

But the futures were saying the same thing. All jobs are going to be destroyed. We're saying the same thing now. What is, and we're saying, well, because of the incredible productivity. And they're talking 10 to 20% over a, you know, a couple of decade period.

Right. It will change a lot of things. But why is he assumption that it's going to destroy all the jobs when massive increases in productivity have not in the past? We are Red I Radio.

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The deputies discovered 12 fake IDs. Why do you have 12 fake IDs?

“I read that and went, are you just trying to stay in the country illegally?”

Or is there something else going on here? It was in Hillsboro County. July 29, body cam. Show the deputy stop in a vehicle in Tampa because it's tail lights and tag lights. We're not working.

She identified herself as a different name than who she is.

And as we told the driver or the deputies. She had a driver's license, but did not have it with her. In a driver's license, nothing but 12 different fake IDs.

“But 11 of them were New York City library cards.”

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