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in the past, haven't thought about him for a couple decades. Yeah? Well, guess what, look over here, I glanced over and I see my boy, my child, that's Roosevelt. Hey, it's me like a bull of lightning from the clear blue sky, no way, no way. No way, my son, who had the tinder age of 10, 11 years old, one day learned what meat production

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my laptop. Four-head resting on the table for two hours trying to recall the past words, locked out. Finally, I take a deep breath, close my eyes, put my hands on the keys, just let my fingers type something on the keyboard, voila, I'm in, hit the search bar, and enter the word Roosevelt, and what comes up is not just a character description, now it's a

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“wrote his history, before he had one, still stocked, now”

(upbeat music) (gentle music) - Mysteries. Mysteries everywhere you turn, Florida. He's just 16 years old.

He lives in Montreal. But this summer, he said it back to Macau. There's been some time with their family done. We connect. I'm let four of take it from here.

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So summer is the best time, but instead I'm in Asia. It's like 100 degrees outside and it's sweaty and humid. And my mom tells me my uncle from Indonesia and his son is coming to visit us for a week.

So you know, I was like, okay, cool. And I'm just at home doing my own thing, watching TV, reading a magazine.

And you know, my uncle is this lovely warm tiny tiny man, like five, four, really short man. He walks in, he smiles, give me a hug

and always a really, really sweet guy.

And then behind him is this little scrawny little kid and he has this bull cut. But he was hunched over. Just imagine like a wilted person.

“I just remember him like, it's almost like he had cement”

in his shoes. He was just dragging his legs. So I just thought that was really strange for seven or eight year old because you have my brother who's not that much older bouncing up and down.

I, you know, I just said hi, how are you? You know, I tried to do small talk and he didn't really want to engage.

So I was like, okay, fine.

But he just followed me around. But he wouldn't really talk to me. And he just kind of followed me in a way that was like he was hiding in my turn around and there he was in like, yeah, it was very strange.

I felt like someone was stalking me my own house and it was like an eight year old boy. We live next to this, just like kids park. All the kids would be playing running back and forth and this kid was just like, nope.

So he's sitting watching TV in the living room and I'm just reading a magazine in the dining room. You know, just doing my thing. And I'm sitting in front of this giant mirror in front of my dining table

and I slowly look up, just with my eyes and I noticed my little cousin just kind of spying and standing behind the sofa. I just felt super uncomfortable. There I stopped reading and I turned around

“and just looked at him and I said, yeah, what do you want?”

And you know, he just came over and he said, what are you reading? Can I see your bra? And I was like, what? What are you talking about?

Go watch TV and he just like, I really wanna see your bra. I'm like, no, don't, just go away and I just kept reading my magazine and moved upstairs. I told my mom and like, why is he speaking like that? And you know, and I said, can you tell me to stop

and my parents are just like, oh, he's just being a kid. Like, you know, he's just being silly, it's harmless. So I was like, okay, he's just a face, boys go through and I just accepted that. Then all through the day, he just kind of followed me around

and he didn't just do it to me. He did it to all the women as well.

“And he like tried to hit my mom, watched by”

and he just like slapped my mom's butt. And my mom said, I, yo, you know, don't do that and walk the way. But you know, they just think of a little kid being silly but I was like, can't have the fuck out of here.

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or the combo kit as a one-time purchase or subscription. (upbeat music) So my auntie and my mom tried to just brush it off as child's play. But I was walking by the room one day

when my aunties and my mommy, was just gossiping and they were just chatting. And I overheard them say, it's not normal. He's so young, why is he staying stuff like that? It's not, it makes me really uncomfortable.

It makes my skin crawl. And they're like, yeah, it's not normal. And I overheard that he has behavioral problem even standing back from Indonesia.

“And that's why his father brought him to Macau”

to bring him to the healer we go to. But even when my mother and my auntie is saying it, I just have this pit in my stomach. What I was experiencing is real. It wasn't just some child's play that I can just brush off

because even my mom and my aunties, they were scared. It never stopped. She just kept saying creepy things all week long. And I didn't totally feel threatened because I could take him, but just a thought of it,

really creeped me out. But it's weird for me to say it because he's a child and he's my family, you know. But it just, there was something that felt unsafe when I was with him.

It just didn't feel comfortable. (upbeat music) So it's super hot. I didn't wanna go outside. It's like a hundred degrees again.

And I'm just sitting by the breakfast note because it's my favorite spot. That's where all this snacks are. And faces the AC, so I get like pure breeze. And you know, I'm just hanging out by myself,

reading a magazine and the kid comes over to me again.

He's been here for a few days, rolling my eyes and just look at him and going, what? And he comes up to me.

“And once again, he does his thing, you're so pretty.”

But can you not sit there? I was like, why? What are you talking about? He's like, you're sitting under that thing. And then I realized next to my breakfast note

is a shelf of all these porcelain. And on top of it, my family's Buddhist. So I'm the top of the shelf is Guanyin, the goddess of mercy. It's a statue that we have there.

And my dad, you know, give it incense every morning. And I'm like, you mean Guanyin? I ask the kid out, it's like, what do you mean? And he's like, turn her around. I don't wanna look at her.

She's a killer. Turn her around. I'm like, what are you talking about? She's the goddess of mercy. It's the complete opposite of a being a killer.

And God, I won't look at it. And then he walked away. And I noticed, if I ever sit there,

he never comes to bother me.

So guess what?

“I spent a lot of time sitting on that bar stool”

and that breakfast note. And he just wouldn't come. And he's like, why don't you even close to that, turn her around, get rid of it. And I was like, no.

No. And the week, my family, we usually once a week go see this healer. It's kind of funny that joke is, you give Chinese free Canadian health care.

They just go to a doctor. We're just always going to the doctor for no reason. Like, my mom's like, it's preventative. And like, why am I going to the doctor today? There's nothing wrong with me.

They're like, well, when there's something

finally wrong with you, you regret it.

And I was like, this is crazy. So we were going. And my dad said, oh, your uncle wants to come to his back hurts.

“And also, he decided to bring his son to come along,”

because apparently he has really bad tantrum. He has behavioral problems. Maybe the energy session would like calm his nerves. I was like, OK. So it's just another regular summer day.

Blue sky really nice in Macau. And my father, my uncle, my cousin, we all decided to go to the healer. We cross the border into China. And the healer's home, there's just two rooms.

The living room where you wait, and then the healing room. And it's all just connected. And you could see inside. And she leaves the door open. The healer is just this draw-view, lovely,

like, happy tribulating. She just exudes warmth. And she sees me. She gives me a hug. And, you know, my father, she says, hi.

She looks at my cousin. And she just looks at him.

And she's that I'm going to start with him first.

And usually there's an order. And she was like, no, I'm going to start with him first. She spoke in Mandarin. And she's like, voila. See, nah.

Like, means come here, sit down. And lay on the-- she has like those masseuse bed. And my cousin, when walk into the door, he was like, why are we here? I don't want to come in here.

She just said, come in. And he's like, no, I'm not going in. You're not doing that to me. I'm not coming in. And she put him the bed.

There's like little chairs on the side of the wall. And we just sat there and just watched him. In this room, there's nothing. But just this bed, her chair, where she sits by your head. And when you lay down, you look the opposite wall

is a huge poster of the goddess of mercy. And she put him the bed. I just remember her smiling. Really calm. She looks at him, and she goes, who are you?

What's your name? My cousin started sniffing. Going, and his hand just became like claw-like. And he started clawing a little bit, like rapid movement, kind of like a squirrel.

And she, the doctor said, told the father,

Don't let him move.

And then she put her hand on his forehead.

He's like moving his head really rapidly. He looked like an animal trapped. And he was like, his nose, and his mouth just started squishing together, and he was going. My cousins started speaking this dialect, I didn't

understand. But my father also looked a bit confused. And my uncle started translating and saying what he's saying to my father, that's when I realized my dad doesn't know what he's saying either.

And my uncle was kind of shaking his head a little bit.

“And I think he was a bit shock, and he just said,”

he doesn't know this dialect. Because it was not taught.

It's a very old dialect in his region.

But he was not taught that Indonesian dialect in school. It's not something you teach is something you learn, and not no one really speaks it anymore. But my uncle understood it. My uncle was translating the whole time.

And he started sniffing around, and in that dialogue, he said, who is this person? Who is this person? He smells like a killer. Who is this person?

And the doctor was super calm and just kept saying, what is your name? Who are you? Get out of this child.

My cousin's going sniffing the whole time and trying

“to paw the killer asking, who is this person?”

And he's like, get this camera away. The room started to smell like wet animal. And it's got really intense when he started spitting. My cousin's not there anymore. It was an animal, just clawing and just kept saying, get this.

This is a killer. Why are you trying to kill me, Daddy? Why are you trying to kill me? Who is this killer? Get her away from me.

Who are you? What is your name? What is your name? And the healer is like, you don't need to know my name. You just need to get out of the child.

Right now, you don't belong in him. He's like, I'm standing in him. And then he turned to his daddy. Daddy, this person's killing me. And she said, I'm going to ask the goddess of mercy

to come help me. See, she's there. My knees just started buckling as, you know, like you're about to get into really bad trouble. It just the energy just was so heavy, you know,

when people talk about the thickness in the air,

“that's how just you started to feel difficult to breathe.”

And it just smelled like an animal's here. (laughing) He started coughing, coughing. And he's like, please stop killing me. You're killing me.

And he does this daddy. Daddy, help me. Daddy, this person's hurting me. And the doctor's like, no, that's not your dad. Daddy, daddy, he's killing me.

She's killing me. She smells like a killer. Why are you killing me? I'm not getting out. I'm not getting out.

Daddy. The healer just kept saying, no, you're hurting this child. Please come out, get out now. You're not the son.

And she's still smiling, really calm as if laying out. You know, you would think that she's going to be like, you want to cookie next, but she was like, no, she was super get out of the kid, get out of him. Please get out of him.

He does not belong to you. And he's our coughing. But it's white, like clear mucuses. And at this point, it was too much for me to handle. So I just walked out of the room.

But the actual whole apartment is just two rooms. I have perfectly good view of what is happening. I'm just not in the actual room. And it was just my uncle, the healer,

But we can all see exactly what's happening.

And my uncle's wiping mucus is coughing into just a piece of, you know, tissue. So he will come out, show us, like, you know, when the tissue gets already, he'll come out. But he said, it is the most putrid, disgusting smell.

It just smells like dead carcasses. That's been left at your house for like days coming out of his son. When he's wiping the mucus, when it's full, he went to the bathroom to just flush it.

“And I thought you have to burn it or something,”

but the healer is saying, no, I'm just just flush it. And my uncle just kept wiping these mucus off of him. And he's coughing and coughing and coughing. He's like a little bit more, get out of him, get out. You don't belong here.

And then she finally say, holy, go.

Holy, true lie. Holy is fox and two lies come out. I just want to shut down and close my eyes and fall asleep in the corner, 'cause I was really scared.

So I was looking out the window. And it was blue sky. But all of a sudden, I noticed. Out of the blue, there was no cloud in the sky. The sky was blue.

“I couldn't believe it was even happening.”

The sky came black. And it just started pouring, thunder pouring.

Super heart, my torrential rainstorm.

And I was looking around wondering, what is happening? The forecast said it was clear sky all day. So it's thundering and in the back of me, I just can just hear the healer saying a Buddhist prayer

and asking Guanyin to come and help cast this spirit away. And my cousin, she's coughing and crying and saying, no, don't kill me. Please stop, please don't kill me. He kept saying that the healer spoke in Mandarin.

And she just said, you just need to get out of the kid. I have to get you out of the kid. I'm asking Guanyin to come help and we're not killing you, but you don't belong in here. This is not where you're supposed to live.

So I understood kind of what's happening. And you know, I got more violent, the coughing. And then boom, it stopped and cleared. It just felt like the last of it came out and washed everything away and then blue sky came.

And the whole air just lifted. It almost like everything exploded and released itself. And then a different kid came out of the room. It was insane. A kid came out of the room.

His back was straight, it was open. And he's bouncing up and down, he's smiling. He's talking. The energy was complete. He bounced.

He skipped. He was skipping, like, you know. He came out and talked to me like a normal kid. He was like, hey, I feel better. And I do feel better and he's like, yeah.

So the kid was fine and I just remember going out to them some after my mom joined us and my brother and we were all just like, look at him. He's playing with the other children. I remember him playing cars and like the trucks

and stuff they had, he was playing with other kids laughing, jumping up and down and like, if just that brightness that children have even when they're being like

“the biggest asshole, like, am I allowed to say that?”

They, there's just that lightness of like the beauty of being a child, like that, you know, that grown up or too dead in the sight to replicate. But, you know, that life. And then I started to think about, oh, the legend

of the, of course, they were letting the fox folklore. But, you know, I didn't think it would take over a child. But, apparently, his house was in Indonesia was built on the fox, quote, air, quote, foxhole. And that's why the spirit entered him

because he's the weakest of the family. Because he's a child, he's the only kid in the neighborhood.

my cousin was saying it was so sexualized that, you know,

I just equated to him a creepy old man, you know.

“But, I think if anything, the spirit is trying to corrupt”

my cousin by being creepy, he's distancing him from other good energy that could protect him. Because, like, if we all have, like, good-cheat and good, my father's at magnetatism, we can help protect the child, but if you don't want to be around the kid,

then he's easier to be prey. So, after this all happened, you know, they were about to leave. And, once again, I'm just, you know, hanging out by my favorite spot in the house of breakfast,

no, you know, reading a magazine and having a cup of coffee. I noticed my cousin, you know, who's a different being completely, since his visit to the healer. He, like, skips. Came over to the breakfast, nook.

“Underneath the breakfast, nooks is a cupboard.”

We're all that, like, good snacks are. And, like, the chips and everything, and he just came over, and grabbed himself a snack and climbed up on the lease, like, bar stool and just sat next to me and asked me what I was doing. And, guanying the statues right there, he didn't care.

He just, as if he didn't even notice. So, I, that was definitely, like, whoa. And, there's almost, like, an amnesia about anything before the healer about him. So, it was just amazing.

It was, I kind of, indescrib it. Like, it was, like, a different person was at the house. A child was back. [MUSIC] Big thanks to Flora, for sharing her story with the Spookt.

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