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“Something bad was going to happen in the only way to stop it.”

Was to make everyone forget about me. Because I'm not just Peter Parker. I'm Spider-Man. After a five year hiatus, Tom Holland's Peter Parker is back in Spider-Man brand new day. Movie fans miss their Spidey Josh.

Apparently brand new day had a huge opening weekend at the box office. We've got a review. Plus thoughts on everybody to Ken Mir Street and the Samurai and the prisoner. That more ahead on Film Spotting. Welcome to Film Spotting.

Later in the show, Josh will discuss a new documentary that would fit in nicely with our current dissident Cinema Marathon. Everybody to Ken Mir Street. It's about a collective act of civil disobedience that took place in a Scottish neighborhood back in 2021.

Was this a movie that was being talked about at all while you were in Scotland recently? Oh, hugely. And I intended to go see it. I intended to see it in Glasgow where it's set.

“I think it might have premiered at a festival there.”

But yeah, the time didn't work out.

Finally did catch it here in Chicago.

Okay. We will give that a few minutes. You also caught up with the latest from pulse and cure director. Kioshi Kurosawa. The 16th century Japan set the Samurai and the prisoner is the movie.

I've seen your star rating. So I know you're going to recommend it. In fact, I'm going to steal your thunder a little bit here. Your your blurb is plays like something. Agatha Christie might have written after binge watching a bunch of a Kira Kurosawa.

I'm in. I mean, sounds great, right? And it works. It works. This is a really good movie.

Yeah. I'll get more into that in a bit. Also later in the show. Everybody's favorite segment. Massacre theater.

A reminder that film spotting is available as a video podcast.

Up first, Spider-Man, brand new day. Doctor, better? You found a way to suppress mutating DNA, right? Have you seen one of this off? Run.

Ah!

“So could you get rid of the bad aspects to keep the good?”

How would you decide? My parts will make sure I'll go their back. Well, what's all about that? No, not one of my students, I know. From 2002, Spider-Man, up to brand new day,

We've witnessed ten standalone Spider-Man films and four very different Spider-Man. Yes, to keep things simple, I'm only going to dip a toe into the multiverse. In the same rainy films, Toby McGuire carried a palpable sadness with socially awkward and constantly overwhelmed by responsibility. He was also deeply sincere.

Andrew Garfield was more restless, emotional, and tragically romantic.

There were moments watching the amazing Spider-Man 2 in preparation for

our top five Spider-Man scenes. No, none of those scenes made the cut, in which I was sure Garfield was intentionally channeling James your tearing me apart Dean. Garfield's spidey yearns. He also quips a lot.

Who can forget a god name sparkles? Tom Holland's Peter is the most believable as a teenager. He's insecure and unsure, but also the most determined to prove himself and optimistic. At least until this latest MCU installment, which finds him without his girlfriend

or best friend, and buckling under the pressure of focusing on being Spider-Man full-time. In the animated films, Miles Morales, voiced by Shemik Mor, isn't wrecked with guilt and grief the way his predecessors are, displaying more of an easy-going warmth and confidence as he seeks to fulfill his potential.

Josh, before seeing Brandy a day, I had never forced myself to consider what exactly I wanted

from a Spider-Man movie or a Spider-Man. But my response to the recent entry did prompt an answer. How about you? Last week debating the current film spotting poll, you said that Spider-Man was the definitive Spider-Man movie, even though into the Spider-Verse might be the better Spider-Man movie.

I don't think you're necessarily upside down out on a ledge with that opinion. So is the earnestness, McGuire offers about your ideal web-slinging speed,

“or are there DNA strands of all these spides that would make the perfect Spider-Man?”

And did Holland, director Dustin Daniel Cretten, and Brandy a day, design you something close? There's definitely distinguishing characteristics among all of them, as you laid out. I think that's to their credit, and as much as each of these movies work as well as they do. I'm glad to see you're still recovering from the shock of how bad amazing Spider-Man, too. It's so bad.

It's literally the worst one, right? It's good to follow you for a long, long time. You know, this is a question I sort of asked myself for our top five. Spider-Man scenes list is trying to get a handle on the essence of the character, and what I responded to, what I responded to most about it.

It was interesting at him since then I listened to movie Deathmatch, the film spotting show pairing, Spider-Man II, against into the Spider-Verse. And on that episode, Matt Singer spent a lot of time talking about how Peter Parker is so tortured. He's continually wrestling with his identity and trying to balance the job of being a teenager and the job of being Spider-Man. And how it just makes him one of the most, he was talking about how Sam Ramey's,

the streak of Sadism and Ramey fit this character. You know, because he's one of the most beleaguered Spider-Man characters. And I thought, huh, that makes a lot of sense,

but it's not at all what I really talked about on our list in terms of what I've always responded to,

which was we touched on his friendliness and his youth. You know, that this is one of the superheroes who is for most iterations of teen. And even as a superhero clad in his costume, someone who the neighbor had knows. And feels like they have a relationship with. So I think that's where I lean.

“Now, to get us to brand new day, what does that mean for the iterations we've seen in these movies?”

And I do think, McGuire, I appreciate the friendliness, the earnestness that he has there. What I have always liked about Tom Howellin, though, is that teen aspect that you just touched on. And it goes beyond Howellin as Peter Parker. It's the movies up until now that we're very much teen movies, high school movies. We've touched on this many times.

Spider-Man Homecoming was a high school movie first, a Spider-Man movie second. I think that's to its credit. And we have something different here with brand new day that actually tests my personal appeal

This is the fourth Hotline movie. He can't be a teenager forever.

“The actor has grown up as has the character.”

And I was relieved to see that this Spider-Man handles that well. Do I miss the teenager, the high school Peter Parker, I do. But at least the movie embraced and leaned into the reality that this Peter Parker is now in his 20s.

Facing some of these more angst-ridden questions that Matt Singer talked about and is always liked about the character.

Unique to be in your 20s, changing relationships, uncertain futures. Particularly what this means for his relationship with MJ, Zendaya here. And the two of them get a lot of scenes together working through this. I joked when I wrote about brand new day that it's the eternal sunshine of the Spotless Mind of Spider-Man movies. Right, it begins with their memories erased.

Ned's memory has found, and MJ, their memories erased a Peter Parker as Spider-Man. And so that gives a lot of emotional room once he reconnects for them to play out these questions of what it's like to be in your 20s. Questions of identity, allegiance, independence. And these moments are nicely played by the two actors.

“I think it diverts from what I've always liked about Spider-Man, but does it well enough that I”

appreciated it at went that way? Does it mean it's a great Spider-Man movie? Well, we'll get into, we'll get into that and cover some of the other many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many things this movie does, maybe in a bit. Okay. We, it sounds like want or like different types of

Spider-Man, but ultimately feel the same about what works here, so I love your flexibility,

Josh. Okay. Even though I also do think based on the many, many, many, many, all the caveats you just provided, I think I like this film more than you did. And I want to mention here that I, even though during our top five, I alluded to a scene and pick to scene that Matt Singer in that movie, Deathmatch had mentioned from Sam Raimi Spider-Man, too. I knew that he talked about that scene, but I actually hadn't heard that episode until we were putting the final

production touches on that episode over this weekend after I had seen brand new day. So listening to Matt talk about Spider-Man and Peter Parker and getting into some of the, the tortured psyche stuff that you were just referencing was incredibly validating for me in terms of my response to brand new day. Going through this whole exercise after, after seeing the film, putting our top five Spider-Man scenes together, looking at my mostly wanting ratings for the three previous Holland movies.

I don't think I'm, I'm with you that, that it's a plus that their high school movies first. Yes,

catching up with my lone blind spot, watching the amazing Spider-Man, too, where I was reminded

of the overly creepy, as I mentioned, comedic sensibility of Garfield Spider-Man. And yes, I, I look back and found this because I remember getting the emails and they're there from people saying, not necessarily all of our listeners who wrote and loved the movie, but they said, oh, you're wrong, Adam, that's, that's Spider-Man. That's true Spider-Man. That's who we is in the comic book. They got that right. Okay. I didn't love it on screen. I can now report, though, after all of this.

I know, I know Cretan directed Shang-Chi, too, but it checks out that the guy who made short-term 12, a pretty heavy movie about counselors at a care unit for at risk teens would make my favorite Spider-Man movie in this series. Apparently, the more the more Bergman-esque my Spider-Man movies are, the happier I am. I, I like my Spider-Man torture. That's the caveat for my review for anybody listening.

“That's how I like, that's how I must prefer my Peter Parker's. More on the sad bastard side”

with Ramie's McGuire and with Tom Holland here. And as we said, that, that is, we can say, I'm going to trust Matt Singer, having written the book about it, written a book about Spider-Man, that that is, that is something that is core to Spider-Man. One of the best exchanges in that death match, if you listen to it, where they're talking about Spider-Man, too, and Spider-Vers, is when Matt said, I think a reason that he resonates in every form with people is getting back

to how frankly miserable he is as a person. Part of that is his loneliness. He's a lonely character.

they read the comic as Matt did. And you, you connect with this character who is lonely and the way Matt framed it was, you feel like nobody understands you, you're a weirdo, you're a nerd, you're a dweeb, you're different. This, this Peter Parker hasn't like others. hasn't just tried to move on, is, is trying and failing to move on from MJ, trying to move on from other people in his life, you know, Aunt May is, is gone here, of course, too, but he's, he's

pressed the nuclear button to ensure that they, they've completely forgotten him, that they, they don't even know he exists. As far, the, the, the, the eternal struggle for Peter Parker and Spider-Man of work life balance, there's, there's no work life balance here. It's, it's all work and it's completely destroying him as he's, he's just focused on saving the world. And I thought, I thought the central metaphor of Peter rather than undergoing puberty, but transforming into adulthood,

this new stage of the spider life cycle. I thought it was really effective and inspired in a way tying together his mental and physical struggle struggles directly with his DNA, his spider, his spider DNA. Now, there, there is one major but here that I have a feeling we're going to get to, which is the water this movie has to carry for the MCU, but beneath the MCU obligations and superhero spectacle lies something surprisingly heartfelt, a spider-man movie about loneliness

and the struggle to be an adult. I need to surprise to say that I, I not only had a really good time watching brand new day, it got a little dusty in the theater a few times. I've said they're thinking, what's going on? I'm watching a spider-man movie and feeling this way. So yeah, I'm, I'm

pro brand new day. I think that's still PTSD from amazing spider-man too. You were just

so really set the bar so low. There was a good new spider-man movie that you just started crying. I need to totally understand. Yeah. So we are looking for different things. But like I said that doesn't mean if a movie does the thing I'm not looking for well, I don't want to recognize that. We've got, it's just like we've got so many brooding tortured superheroes and you know, I think to me, Batman has this corner on lockdown. So a little variation on it. A character who offers something

“completely different. That's why I'm more drawn to the, the teen, little bit light-hearted,”

though still having conflict. Spider-man, here at 'em. Yes, it is, as you say, the water it has to carry for the MCU, which I've made my deal with the devil from, I don't know, maybe the third entry that that's part of this. In some ways, I appreciate that. It's very much like the lived experience

of reading comic books where you're always aware of multiple worlds going on around the one

storyline you're reading. So I don't hold this against these movies across the board. It is a matter of proportion for me. Sure. And honestly, it's a matter of if I am locked into the movie doing something on its own terms with its own narrative, quite well. That MCU better get out of the way, right? Because your movie does not need it. And then it is nothing less than an intrusion.

“And I feel that's what we get here on multiple levels. We're going to have to avoid spoilers.”

We will avoid spoilers. If we decide we want to talk about it near the end of this, maybe I'll say more right now. I will just say that this needs to open up another franchise in the Mega Mall of the MCU and not only do that, but spend probably as last third doing it. I feel it's pretty egregious. I realize they try to make thematic connections between how that works and Peter's story. I recognize the attempt. I just found it to be incredibly ungainly. We're all this sudden.

I didn't feel like I was watching a Spider-Man movie at all for quite a bit of time. A non-spoiler thing we can discuss because I'd like to hear how this character registered for you. Punisher. The Punisher Punisher, depending on the iteration here played by John Bernthal,

has already been in some MCU showed up on MCU TV shows. I just this character. I've never really

“liked. I have seen the 2004 Thomas Jane movie. I think I did give. I might have given a positive”

review to in my memory. But the character, I remember it being sadistic and violent.

of the Punisher character, let's say, by segments in American society in really concerning ways. I do understand having seen that original film and knowing something about the comic book. I understand there's a distinction between how this character was conceived and depicted and how he's used on, I don't know, you know, the really annoying guy that probably just cut you off on the freeway. And someone gave you the middle finger and they've got the Punisher

decal on the back. I understand there's a distinction there. Still, I have become less enthralled with this character over the years. And I think the use here is just brutal. All the sudden this Spider-Man movie, which is about agility, dexterity, swinging on webs comes down to machine guns.

And I like to think a moment with an errand bullet is meant to be self-critical in a

dry way that's trying to comment on gun violence. I don't think it is, but it made me realize what I have long disliked about the Punisher. And I think it's just a really brutal element that drags down this movie, quite a bit. The house, Frank, you just hit me with a band. What's your one point? Valveline. Instant oil change presents wisdom from the road. Summer means wide open spaces in a

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“of Ben Stillard. The definition of what is a movie is kind of changed. And it ran too, right?”

What do you think it is now? It's images and words being spoken captured by some sort of technology. Danny McBride who owns the album. Oh, that's fantastic. Can you make it on, you make your own. That's great. I call him Terrow Read. It's a good name. They're all

named after task members of American Pie. Yeah, I call. I don't. I never looked up if she was

but I just haven't looked it up. Yeah. She's prominent in the whole time. Yeah. Then Mary steam virgin. Why are you guys tied to me? I'm worried. I'm worried. I don't understand the movie. So down to me that you think I don't understand your little play play play play play play play. I just really, I'm trying to set you up for success here. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the I Heart Radio Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. I have no feelings about the

Punisher in terms of baggage. I'm bringing to the film. Okay. Which is a great position to be in.

“It similarly is how I feel about honestly the MCU overall and the characters. I'll get into this”

in a second. When I talk about how I responded to the water, the movie was caring for the MCU.

I'm only responding to how the Punisher functions within this film. Okay. And I would largely agree with you. I give them credit for providing some balance here and what I mean is I know enough about the Punisher understand that the character, at least this current iteration that Bernthal has given us in the various whatever series he's done. I know enough to understand that he puts the mature in four mature audiences and that they had to be monitoring the number of swear words

they could put in his mouth to still get a PG-13 rating that they got here. So where I give them credit is that they inserted him into this world without feeling like he makes absolutely no sense at all. Like they had to completely sand down his rough edges. I said Peter is a bit of a sad bastard here but it's nothing like the pain even here that that Bernthal infuses Punisher with even when you just look at him. So with that said something is just off when Punisher, when Punisher's one

“of your key comedic figures in the movie. When Punisher and Peter Part, when Spider-Man's”

banter, when they're their oddball odd couple relationship is giving you some of the the more comedic parts of the movie. And beyond that, I did necessarily think that any of the action scenes that they were in together were highlights of the movie. I was just shooting guns. It's the most unimaginative action you can have. So yeah, I'm with you on that now. As far as the other characters, we agree on the MCU part. But we don't necessarily, I don't know if we see eye to eye on a certain

on a certain element of it. And to go back to what you said, of course, I wouldn't complain about the MCU sprawl unless the MCU sprawl was a distraction from the narrative, especially when the narrative is otherwise for me functioning pretty well. And here again, I'm not invested in the MCU. I'm not anticipating any characters who may or may not appear. I don't know what movies might be coming. So I'm just, I'm just watching this narrative unfold and taking what it gives

me. And through the first, I don't know what it is, 20 or so minutes of the movie. I'm fully engaged.

This is going great. And then Peter says something like, or Spider-Man says something like, "I need some information. And I think I know who can help me." And that's not the line, but I wish it was a significantly better line. And the next thing you know, he's in a bathhouse talking to Florence Pius Black Widow. I don't know if you found this scene offensive. I wouldn't say it was offensive, Josh. But I will. There's a reason why I'm bringing it up. I can't say

“it serves no purpose for the plot. He finally, I think if I remember it right, as he leaves,”

he gets a word from her that ends up being important, even though he doesn't do anything with it.

So how important is it? But this scene ultimately is there to be kind of a comedic distraction.

Spider-Man has to take his clothes off and get in a bath with his mask on. And she has a little clip at the end of it. I didn't find it very amusing. And it really is. I assume otherwise to let us all let let the MCU make sure that we get Black Widow into this movie because she's going to be important to some other MCU movie down the line. It's set up. And she shows up later in the movie via a laptop. And it's another joke, which again doesn't really land. And the last one that I'll give you

is another example, of course, is Peter going. Let me just jump in there with floor. Okay, go real quick. Yeah. You cried. I laughed. Okay. I thought there was funny. Him getting in the

character. You know, he deals in what does she say? Small baby potato stuff. Yeah. I don't mind that line.

This is, see, this is a cameo like this from another MCU character. If the material is good and takes up 45 seconds to a minute and a half, I'm okay with. So that's longer than that. But I'll give you an example of one that could work. That one doesn't work for me. One that can work is when Peter goes to see Dr. Professor Bruce Banner because narratively, the information that he gets from him, is hugely important to the story. And I was engaged enough at this point that I thought now this,

this is nice. This makes sense. This is nice to see Mark Ruffalo in this movie. And of course,

“he would of course he would seek out Bruce Banner to get this information. Who else would know this?”

This isn't shoe horning in anything. But then what is this setting up? We know what is setting up. A whole lot of chaos in destruction. Some well shot chaos in destruction. But a whole lot of chaos in destruction and probably some other things that are going to come down the road. It could have worked. It could have function nicely. And then the kind of effective cameo that I think it could

have been. But that's, but the first example for me of Black Widow is an example of a distraction.

And then the second one that I'm just describing is then actually gobbling up narrative by putting the Hulk in the movie. And we Hulk cinematic technology still has not arrived. I'm sorry. Like when when we get those action scenes, I don't think they're bad, but they still are not as convincing even of other digital characters and effects we get. There's something particularly difficult about Hulk as a character, as a visual character that I keep hoping though crack. Someday they

probably will. Maybe not. Maybe this is just too strange of a visual to ever convincingly depict on screen. But we do end up getting a fair amount of Hulk here too. And yeah, I just don't think the visuals are there yet. Okay. Last little part on the MCU. Okay. The last clip is a bit

“because here again, we're, we see it the same way. I think we just disagree slightly slightly on how”

effective it is. And we won't, we won't get into spoilers because apparently this is a very protected thing. But it's not protected or it's very well known that Sadie Sink is in this movie. And there is where all this MCU stuff leaves us. Is it leaves us with at some point or to some extent a compromised movie that's trying to do justice to Peter's arc, but also do Marvel business. And even though after this big fight scene happens and there's some resolution, even though it doesn't

feel over by any means, you can't help but think I'm speaking for myself, but I have to imagine a lot of people were feeling similarly. Wait, if this is where we're going, we still have a lot of story left to get to. And and sure enough, where we're getting is a lot, there's a lot to resolve, but also is very clearly setting up more MCU storylines and and more around a very key character. But you spoke to this, you said that I see how it's connecting two Peter and his story.

I would say beyond that Josh, the emotional beats, the actual scenes and the way it connects and the performance that that that actress gives and how she interacts with Tom Holland,

“I think it's very effective. And I think for all of its sprawl, I think that I think the”

screenplay is at least quite coherent, and it does all connect even if ultimately it's compromised.

Yeah, I think she's quite good. I'm going to be delicate here. I think she's quite good in those scenes you're describing. I think the movie earlier asks her to do something and carry a presence that she's not quite as equipped to do. And so it's a performance of two sides for me that gets better or the screenplay gets better, perhaps is a different way of looking at it. I'll say that about that character. And I just wish maybe the movie hadn't been given over quite so much

to that character in certain sentences because as we both said now, thematically, it does connect interestingly. So Sadie Sink, yes, from Stranger Things. This movie does give a lot of really good supporting TV actors. Some some juicy supporting roles here, Tremel Tillman from Severance,

like enough of a presence to it that you know what you're getting the whole time. See, that's my

“like how he gave it to us. I won't. That's the thing. I won't dance around it or I won't. I'm sorry.”

I will dance around it, but I will simply say that I don't think the movie is trying to fool you at the same time if everybody's sitting in the theater immediately knows what we know about that character. How doesn't Peter Parker/Spiderman know? Sure. It's a whole in the movie for me. And I can't help but think then that it's slightly a weakness in Tillman's performance, too. It's also a bit of typecasting because on Severance, let's say he's a kindly duplicitous character.

So it's kind of being carried in. Now, what's not being carried in anything, I don't think,

from the bear, which you know, I finally finished up recently, but Liza Cologne's AS plays Tina

and the bear. One of the best characters on that series and here she's the police commissioner early detective and has some nice back and forth with Peter and speaks directly to this work

“a haulic element of the film. I like that they include, I think in each of her scenes we see her,”

she's also with her kids, either eating with them or writing the subway with them, which is just speaking to this dynamic of work-life, family work balance that Peter is struggling and that she's kind of demonstrating. So yeah, it's just interesting that you've got three well-known TV actors popping up here. And the other thing I want to say to this movie is Crette. You mentioned Crette in the director who did do Shumqi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, which I really love.

Happened to think it's one of the best MCU films, probably because it's self-contained, like Spider-Man Homecoming largely was. Here, the action, you know, I've said what I said about Punisher Hulk, mileage is going to vary. There is an excellent, and it is also like Shumqi, largely martial arts based, showdown with the hand, this group of, you know, villains adversaries for Spider-Man, basically ninja types and these red robes and they use swords. And the way that's

staged within, it's like a cage match because it's in this atrium where the levels have fencing all along them. I thought that was quite thrilling, inventively staged and also makes use of that Spider-Man DNA changing element. So ties into some of the themes as well. I know people

“have become, and they are right to feel this way. We read by MCU action. I think that sequence is one of”

the standout action films in the series. I was going to say we're completely aligned down to not surprisingly because it's a pretty common word. The use of the word thrilling and our notes. There is a fight sequence and it's that one that's near the end of the film that has to be one of the most thrilling and most memorably shot and edited in all of the MCU. It's that it is that good. And if we're talking about performances, I do have other things I want to praise about this

movie. If we're talking about performances, I think this is maybe Holland at his best because he brings, he still does get to bring the elements that we associate with him from the other films, but he does get to stretch out a little bit and he doesn't play what he does well here. The smart choice he makes is that he doesn't play Peter is somebody all of a sudden with an edge.

That's never the sense I got. He really plays him as someone who's just struggling as someone who

who seems to really have depression and I felt that from from him. I also think, Zendaya, Josh, I'm going to, at some point, I'm going to stop beating the dead horse. But here, one of the trailers may be the last trailer before brand new day was Dune 3 of course. And there's only one shot of her in the entire trailer and it's, it's her making the Zendaya face that filmmakers insist on having her make and it couldn't have gotten me less excited to see Dune 3. And so then we go into brand new

day and we watch her opposite Holland and she is effortlessly charming. She's funny. She has great chemistry with him and in a scene where she gets to do some, I suppose, small level, capital A acting

and show her darker side. She, she absolutely delivers. I'm always amazed that she's really good

when she actually actually gets to play people. It's crazy. It's a chance. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

but you're right about how some filmmakers choose to use her. I can imagine a game of haven't seen Dune 3 obviously, but based on the other films, shot from the Odyssey or shot from Dune and it's his face and the costume they also put her in, right? It's a lot to decide which is which.

I think it would be harder than you might guess. I think she's great here. She's always given, I mean,

that same sort of unpredictability and spark and attitude, but also enough vulnerability that she had in something like challengers. She's bringing here appropriately and makes the use of quite a few scenes. Good use of quite a few scenes that she and Helen get together. Helen, I agree with everything

“you said about him and I would add that he's also still funny and I think that is key. I think you're”

right. This is not spider-man, you know, goes dark and brooding. It doesn't quite go to that Batman territory. It is distinct in that way and in addition to the bathhouse scene, I like the recurring bit where, you know, this is a Peter Parker who's kind of grossed out by spiders and I think that, you know, the you and the Tom Hollensells, sells those well and the fact that, you know, this part of the lore being played with here is part of his changes is now

the web spinnerets become organic for him, rather than mechanical. And the fact that his reaction is to be like utterly grossed out. Like he's suddenly discovered a bizarre growth on his body. I just think it's, you know, he plays that sort of comedy really well and brings that element to the

film as well, which I think is a crucial component of. I agree. I agree. He is still, he is still funny

and the movie also still takes advantage of the the element he brings that none of the other ones do, which is his physical agility. There's a lot of physical comedy in this. Yeah, yeah, this one without it out. So a couple of the things. During the death match, Matt said something that one other thing that was so in sync with something I loved in this film and I wonder if you had a similar reaction. There's a there's a part in that exchange in death match where he's talking

about the video game, the Spider-Man 2 video game. Now I know nothing about any of the Spider-Man video games but Matt says something like it was the first time the game was an open world game where you could swing around as much as you want and you had objectives and places to go but also part of the fun of the game was you could just swing around Manhattan and it looked as best as they could make it at the time and it gave you that feeling of freedom and excitement and fluidity and movement

and kinetic energy that the movies have, which you could never get and even the greatest Spider-Man

comic by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko and John Rubita and whoever else as beautiful as the artwork is, it is inherently a series of static panels. So I think we touch on this a little bit during our top five, what attracted us to Spider-Man in the first place as a superhero. He doesn't surprise me at all to learn that part of the attraction for many to this video game was yes it's a game and there things you got to get to at some point things do accomplish and achieve but you also just get to

“swing around the city as Spider-Man. Sure and just have fun that's what we all want to do and so”

here again about Holland. He's always brought this physical dexterity, this balletic ability that neither McGuire nor Garfield had and you combine that with with some genuine grace that the filmmakers here depict with some of the flying scenes like when Spider-Man is is swinging not flying with swinging with MJ. Think about when he's bringing her back and forth there is a distinct rhythm to the whip and just wings where it it truly feels like they're sharing a dance

together and he's not only trying to take things slow because he's trying to keep her safe and not scare her maybe but maybe he's also trying to savor every second of this because he doesn't know how many more chances he's going to get to hold her or even you know spend any time with her. I love those moments. Well they're nicely handled too because their relationship is different again won't spoil it but the first couple swing let's say that they do has a different

possibility where the second one there's a different reality now for the relationship and it's speaking to your observation about rhythms it those are paced differently. They are their perform

“differently and I think that is a nice little bit of nuance. I absolutely thought of during those”

sequences you know the lowest lane and superman fly from 78 superman. It works along the same lines which is kind of a nice callbacks. Speaking of callbacks did you notice you know doing our Spider-Man

in each other since the beginning but very early on they do grab that upside-down shot we both picked

for of course across the spiderverse and they have hallowed sitting upside down with this you know yeah and they even riff on the upside-down kiss from 2002 Spider-Man where she's and

“day it gives him MJ gives him a half mask yes pulls up the mask to give him a kiss so I think”

you know again those ohmages let's call them let's call them nice ohmages. Well I think it's it's emblematic of something else to the movies doing well though that I give Cretan in his team a lot of credit for is that I was really struck by including the effects but just the overall visual aesthetic aesthetic is that it looks as good as any of the live action films do if not better but they also seem to me Josh in some instances subtly to find a way to integrate some of

the look and feel of the animated movies in select sequences to give it a heightened realism in a way

that for me never really broke the spell like they they they they incorporated some of that beauty

that all of us go crazy for in the animated films in a way the the live action movies haven't been able to do there's that montage early on of him when we're starting to learn what a workaholic he is and we see him and showdowns with various villains including my hand we get a little teaser of the hand and yeah those are very much framed as you know slow motion or almost freeze frame moving into slow motion that have an animated aesthetic to them yeah and

there are shots that you would expect in a good comic book movie like at damage control just before the battle really begins where it's it's in a puddle in the hallway but you see you see spider man in it is he's arriving shots matter in this movie in a way that I haven't felt as often in in some of the other films there's an intention behind them there's an intention behind moments like at the beginning the the senior describing where he he leaps from that skyscraper the decision

“and they're more their more instances like this but putting us inside his mask do you remember”

that where he's just falling and they put his eyes on my ball yeah so it's it's not just sometimes they do that only when it's it's iron man or spider man or something when he's targeting something and it's and it's just about showing off the technology that's not what it's about here it's about like we're hearing his breathing it's it's it's showing him as as a person behind

the mask and and that seems important to what this movie is ultimately trying to do yeah I wondered

if that had been done before where it is putting us right again right next to his eye it's related to the his eyes change as the Iraqndian DNA is changing so it kind of sets the stage for us to watch his eyes yeah but there's an intimacy there to your point that I don't remember a shot like that in a private screen movie it's like a baby and also and and related to that surely other iterations have had live action iterations have had when in mask the eyes narrow I can't imagine

this is the first time they've done it it might be more that they do it more frequently here than

“they have before but I did stand out to me and I think again speaks to this merging the idea of”

merging the man behind the mask and the mask it's not just a rigid mask you know there is a personality and it's Peter Parker's who is expressively responding by narrowing his eyes and the mask shows us that as well that's a nice touch last point and this speaks to the benefits of engaging in activities like doing a top five spider-man scenes before you see a movie like this where we talked quite a bit about spider-man's relationship to the people of New York City and so then

I found it so fascinating when there's a scene as he he he falls from his apartment and he goes on the sidewalk in a citizen just someone walking by it seems says something to him and then says something a little sinister to him not a spoiler we realize that this is really the the villain in this film because the villains a telepath who can you can get into people's heads and it's it's just a guy walking a guy walking by and there's an extended scene whoever that

actor is is very good that's a real good and then then that that voice jumps from New Yorker to New Yorker and and there is something so sinister about weaponizing the people of New York not just

the people of New York against spider-man yeah especially in the context of a spider-man story yep yeah really like that spider-man brand new day is currently playing in wide release if you see it or if you have seen it and agree or disagree with our takes we would love to hear your thoughts you can email us feedback at filmspotting.net you can also send us a voicemail send us a clip send us a video clip we'll put it on our YouTube email that to feedback at filmspotting.net

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curtains in the morning I started getting these takes messages right on camo street can be we'll get there now the new documentary everybody to kenmier street just left the gencisco film center in chicago but it's coming to i was city's film scene it's playing in limited release in other theaters around the country it's directed by Felipe Gusto Sierra it premiered earlier this year at the Sundance film festival the movie is about a 2021 collective act of civil disobedience

in a diverse neighborhood on the south side of Glasgow residents in the area attempted to protect their neighbors from being deported we did both catch up with this one Josh you suggested you

sought first and said hey this might be worthy of a golden brick nomination I want you to tell us why

but I also just want to say first that one of the things we learned early on in this film that this attempt by the UK home office effectively ice to deport to seek men upon the occasion the holiday of of eat at dawn in the early morning hours is is really thwarted by a man who decides who has the brilliant idea that comes to him to lodge himself under the vehicle and attach himself to one of the axles or something under the vehicle and make it so that the

“vehicle simply cannot move and that's what allows all of these people to assemble so tell us”

about this film and your response to it yeah without that act none of this would have taken place yeah the golden brick question you know the director here has been working for a while so not necessarily an emerging filmmaker Felipe Gusto Sierra I think has one featured documentary he made before this as well as a number of shorts it's to me it was a formal question the vision thing we look for in golden brick awards a unique formal vision an inspired filmmaking choice

and this is a documentary that has a lot of stuff you would expect it has a mobile phone footage from the day it has a wide range of interviews for protesters who are there but it has this inspired

conceit to have actors play a few of the crucial figures and we know this because there will

all of a sudden be a shot that's clearly not mobile phone footage it appears to be sort of within the context of but it looks a little more staged and the person will turn to the camera and say this isn't my face but these are my words and it gets crucial because it means they're working

“from an interview that has been done but now it's in a reenactment and I think this happens”

three times mostly with two people a lot of the time it's done with two people and my question

under the van and grabbing onto the axle did you realize who played van man in the moment because

I did not until I know that the credits immediately really oh no maybe maybe it's because Sarah and I not too long ago watched the Emma Thompson series on Apple TV and so not only she she an actress I like quite a bit but she she's very immediately recognizable to me with that white hair that she's kind of spiky yeah that sure that's interesting like a woman with white hair interesting choice to put a bandman but it wasn't till the credits I was like oh of course Emma

Thompson my man this isn't my face but these are my words it's a bold choice you recognize

right away that okay they're using they they announced it to you as you said but you know that

it's a it's a formal technique to say we're not going to be able to use the actual for whatever reasons including potentially legal reasons we're not going to be able to use the actual some of the actual people in the scenario and there's three total it's an it's an activist who is played by an actress named Kira Luchese and then there's the nurse who's tending to van man played by a very prominent Scottish actress Kate Dickie and yeah I recognize right away from the witch

“actually of course from my vision and and game of thrones I think potentially to sort of stuff yeah and”

then and then Emma Thompson who's van man so I I did recognize Kate Dickie and I definitely recognize Emma Thompson you you know that they're employing this technique and you understand why it is one of those cases where immediately you're you're thrown by it if you recognize her you understand later she's a producer on the film and I have to think if I'm a documentary filmmaker and I need an actress to portray someone why wouldn't I use Emma Thompson if I had her at my disposal

when she's one of the greatest actresses on the planet but in the moment it it it did throw me

it it took me out for a second just I have to admit I'm still I'm still thinking about

the effectiveness of having someone portray someone recognizable portray that person at the same time

“I think having someone who is it recognizable portray them that that may have the opposite effect”

where you're then very much assuming that there's something very similar to it and that is van man and and that may not work either can I try to talk you into it of course and and I didn't you know I haven't really thought about this a little bit more until now I should have what does this choice do I love the inspired nature of it but the big question is okay is it effective and if so how obviously I found it effective so now I got to figure out how in terms of casting

Thompson what I think it does and again in retrospect for me because I didn't recognize it in the moment but it is an echo of the larger idea of continuing concentric circles of care that I think this documentary depicts it starts with van man and then the next circle are the couple of neighbors who are you can tell they were on their morning commute they were going to work

“or I think one of the interviews says school they've got backpacks they've got bikes they all sit”

down put their bikes around the van that's another circle then you have more neighbors come out and form the circle on the sidewalk then you have a circle people looking out the windows of their flats on this street making signs hanging from the windows and I do think casting I'm a Thompson why didn't that circle because now you say we have one of the most prominent respected actors UK actors getting behind this joining the circle by deciding that I'm going to

give not only my producer time to this but I'm going to give my acting time and I'm going to give my face time that's a real face causes that's exactly and so I think to me maybe that sort of a meta or a a deeper level why the conceit works in concert with what the movie is trying to do I think what I appreciated the most is the way this is an immersive documentary using glass goes long history struggle yeah with a spontaneous act of collective resistance you

get that opening montage the music is is by a Scottish musician named Barry Burns the song is called your sweet love and it's six minutes long and it is this montage using using a lot of historical footage and another you know some of it is more recent camera footage TV news type

of slave grown tobacco being imported to the response to George Floyd and black lives matter and it it immediately grounds us in history it gives us a sense of the larger these circles how how how why it is the larger glass we gin community and it reminds us that this will remain a continuous struggle that regardless of how much we know about what happened here at Ken Mir Street or what we're going to see play out that the struggle's not over because

because one battle was one and yeah later in the movie then using incorporating some of this footage we get a 10 minute sequence yeah it digs into that history starting with the origin of the name Ken Mir Street and I I really thought I thought this was such a bold stroke because it's not it's not like the movie needs it you could make the case that the movie could just stay on Ken Mir Street and it would be more than sufficient but I thought this context was not only really

interesting but but crucial to understanding the subtext of this particular scene in in pollack

“shields understanding the potential for this to be a real powder keg and I think what's great”

about it too Josh is that it it makes it makes it poignant because one of the neighbors at the end talks about the story of the day like it's a fairy tale even though it's real like it's a fairy tale their kids they have a painting on the wall and their kids say tell us the story at bedtime about the day the baddies came and and this is what what happened and what we learn about going back into the past is that those are stories that still echo today that they still talk about

those are narratives that the people today who lived through it and even the ones who didn't they talked to the people from the past they know all those stories and they're passed along and some of those protests ended well and some of them didn't and and and they draw on them

“for strength and and resilience and for knowledge and I think what's what's scary for those in power”

is that a new tale like this gives gives people hope that that it's not a fairy tale that it really that it really happened and that it's it's being told and it and it cast an alternate vision I guess is the true power of this documentary is is not only looking back on this day but how this day shows an alternate way forward than the one that way too many governments in the world right now are taking us I want to come back to that but to the historical footage point

I think what I did like about it is that we have those two sections you know we because initially that opening one that is very long the opening montage with all the historical footage I found a little sprawling and contextless except for giving me the vague notion of you know Glasgow is a city that has a history of and and you know and be there and knowing its reputation is this of not putting up with shit right and especially authority coming down and so a lot of the historical

footage is documenting that it's the city's reputation that's all well and good but I did wonder not only wanting to know a little bit more about all this footage we're seeing but I did wonder are we setting ourselves up for a self-congregulatory you know we're a city where these things don't

happen story which would have been felt a little more one-sided but you do get that second historical

section that takes us away from the street as you said as you said could potentially disrupt the rhythm because it's very much a movie about putting us in this honest street in this day for these hours

“but it's crucial in the context of the opening montage because it shows us the flip side of Glasgow”

where there has been a history of exploitation by the residents of the city and the wealth drawn at the expense of people and other regions of the world so it kind of balanced that out for me if you see it I'm saying it was a little more realistic like yes we have this history of defiance and this is a city that is perhaps unique in that way but we're not perfect and it speaks to

your point about you know the net this is not going to be the final battle so I basically I agree

that the historical footage is in there and ultimately it's it's well used on this idea of another vision and why I did also find this this documentary so inspiring is as you mentioned this is happening on Eid and on this day there was a celebration planned at the local mosque and so they

the mosque is being interviewed and describes the decision to just move the festival out onto the street to be part of the protest to bring the food and the quote he says we thought let's make a

Wee Eid celebration of this and just to see this guy who first of all does not look like or dress like

what we probably think of as someone who lives in Glasgow right just to hear him use the word we is beautiful and this choice to picture a community that could be very different in many ways but

“also ultimately all caring for each other which again the concentric circles of care that's what we're”

seeing here and so to bring this festival out onto these streets combine and Eid celebration with this history of Glasgow protest using a Scottish phrase like we very naturally it's just this beautiful picture of pluralism and the world right now is being directed by fear mongers who

if they were to see something like this they'd never will but an interview like that would absolutely

just crumble their brains because they are not only can they not imagine this but if they did it would just make them tremble for what reason I don't know I mean to me it's beautiful and it shows something hopeful but what we're seeing in the world is that just thinking about something like that scares people to their very core and Ken Mir Street this documentary is just casting a possible real world it has happened in in this time that we're living in this sort of pluralism

“can be beautiful and healthy and I think that's you know that's what the documentary ultimately”

leaves us with in addition to the record of this day along those lines and I may be describing too much meaning to this choice but that's what we're here for. I thought it was interesting that none of the interviews and there are a lot of them way more than you would normally get in a documentary that features talking hits there are a lot of people lot of faces and there are a lot of people that only appear once for maybe one one line or a couple lines and we don't get

any of them to my recollection Josh ever I did they're in the credits but there's no on-screen

identifier it doesn't say their name it doesn't say their occupation it never says what they do

for you know what neighborhood they're from anything anything like that there's no but not always no I I scan through the movie again I I didn't see a name for people so you know maybe I maybe I miss something but there there is something that is on point about that for this movie because it's always a bit of a challenge anyway for from a practical standpoint for documentary filmmakers because sometimes they just clutter up the screen aesthetically sometimes you

you only have someone on screen for a brief snippet and there's no time for an ID without it feeling jumpy and are you going to ID everyone or only some people and when you return to people how often are you going to re-ID them is it every time or only after so much time is passed and you think the viewers confused here it actually felt to me like not only a pragmatic choice due to the sheer number of people they interview as the roster keeps expanding because this was such a huge gathering

but also as they want to feature this panoply of faces and voices that are let's face it largely anonymous right they they talk about each other as neighbors and some are actual neighbors and some recognize each other but for the most part that's not the case at all they they the way they talk about each other as neighbors has a completely different meaning I I feel like the anonymity of the characters here characters in this context actually makes complete sense for this

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one of the people interviewed was asked you know why did they respond this way and they just just shrugged and said these are our neighbors like it was just like it's matter of fact it's practical it's it's obvious it's a question that doesn't need to be need to be asked and even you know this was a little aside we don't get a lot from the men who were detained and i'm trying to recall exactly when this interview takes place i don't think we see his face either but i could

be recalling that incorrectly at any rate the point is one of the police at the time he recalls

being asked by one of the police why is the community coming out for you this way yeah basically

who are you right and the man's response i'm nobody i'm normal yeah again like it's it's a self-evident truth that this is what is going on is not how a neighborhood should be should be operated or or even immigration yeah or even immigration policy should be enforced right there's just like it's self evident to these people that something is deeply a miss in handling things this way and yeah so there's just a couple a couple of you know you get in documentaries

practical wisdom right and and just hearing them say something that self evident like that it's not the words that are maybe the most necessarily eloquent but they still retain this truthful power to them and there's a lot of that in in this documentary and everybody to can be your street is currently playing in limited release we will add the film to our golden brick page also in limited release the samurai and the prisoner sounds exciting Josh just from the

title it's from director kiyoshi kurosawa the director is best known here in the states anyway for a pair of horror thrillers that came out in the late 90s slash early 2000s and 1997s cure in 2001's pulse he got back on our radar a couple of years ago with cloud which showed up on a couple of

“best of the year list I believe Alison Wilmore may have had it there on our show I know our friend”

over letterboxed Mitchell Bo pray picked it in sense of voicemail about it we have actually discussed perhaps doing our blind spotting bonus show for film spotting family members giving them a choice between some kiyoshi kurosawa films because I have seen none of them but you have now seen the samurai and the prisoner it is said in 16th century Japan kind of a who done it it does seem based on your description tell us why it's good yeah I have no kiyoshi kurosawa context to bring

to this as as you said to my shame my first film of his I only know that you know psychological

thrillers slash horror is where cure and pulse are placed and this is not that so I gather from the way it's been described this is a bit of a departure for him on its own terms it is intensely compelling as a who done it it definitely works that way the historical setting is just fascinating from the pomp and circumstance given to each of the conversations and this is mostly a series

“of conversations this movie and the castle exterior and interior I think they filmed in temples”

and castles around Kyoto are part of the movie's grandeur and appeal but really there's also a fascinating central core to this where the lead the main character Lord Marashigayaraki played

I Masahiro Matoki has had a crisis of conscience we learn where he his first instinct is not to kill

it's no longer to kill as a matter of honor really as a samurai and so he's going against the samurai code by imprisoning the man in the title rather than killing him and there are a couple of other instances in the film where he chooses away other than death and this puts him at odds with tradition it puts him at odds with the warlord who's you know laying siege to his castle and it does add this interesting moral dimension to the decisions that Lord Marashigayar has to

make as he's managing this outside threat and then the interior deceit that he encounters when

some of these crimes start occurring so it's a bit of a character study as well Matoki is incredible

here wouldn't be surprised if he lands on best performances of the year lists at the end of the year and yeah and the mystery is compelling too there are a couple of things speaking of end of the year in this movie that I won't go into now including a sequence because it might end up

“as a contender for our rap party categories the movie overall I think works even though it might”

tend to get a little talkie here and there because as I said these are a bunch of interrogations really to figure out what's going on in the castle all the sudden Kurosawa will come at you with an intensely inventively staged sequence that kind of snaps you back into attention so yeah this one really delivered obviously makes me curious and eager to watch more of his titles even if they might be you know of a very different thing

also to what I did in the world Samurai and the prisoner is out in limited release including in Chicago at the Gene Cisco Film Center I can't wait to get a chance to see it and hopefully catch up with more Kurosawa films time now for massacre theater this is where Adam and I perform a scene and you get a chance to win a film spotting prize last time we massacred this scene all the data yeah there's no sacrifice no I tried to do my duty group but I knew the day that I arrived

them but then somebody would come and save me yeah that was Matt Damon and Matthew McConaughey

“and 2014's interstellar written by Jonathan and Christopher Nolan directed of course by Nolan”

that massacre was part of our best of the year so far show so why that scene from interstellar years Matthew Aflito in Brooklyn New York the senior masquerred was from interstellar I could tell partly from the breathlessness that Josh sold through acting although it did sound a little like gallum especially with the elongated acid the head of one of the yeses have we done that have we heard your gallum before a little a little precious in there we had we have to have

done got you would think if not we need to pull that out the connections included this being a Nolan movie like the Odyssey also featuring Matt Damon and both as a man so far from home

that it seems he will never make it back interstellar is also connected to best of the year so far

movie project Hail Mary as a guy who travels through space to save humankind from nature things all right you are on it Matthew here's Scott Lens from San Luis Obispo California for other connections listener pull winner project Hail Mary has been getting lots of interstellar cops this year at least in its visuals and my personal favorite link atoms number one movie of of twenty twenty five so far Nirvana the band the show the movie prominently features a poster

for the dark night to show that Matt and Jay have traveled back to 2008 well now okay yeah good catch Dave Allen and Bonnie Lake Washington says hey guys I might have only known this was interstellar because I just rewatched it for the recent movie death match episode good job ofoking two out of breath middle age dudes let me tell you method acting I have to say however with all the love in my heart that on the word resisted Josh's Matt Damon seemed to slip into

curly from the three stages which is worse yeah golem or curly maybe maybe I decided to throw

a little curly in their Dave will okay I'll never tell you Maxwell Fletcher has another comment for

us he's from New York City your portrayals of out of breath Damon and McConnell hey we're so

“ridiculous in the best way I'll never be able to watch that scene again without chuckling to myself”

that's what that's what theater is here for yes it is music so ruined scenes that it impacts your future viewing of the movie yeah I think it was Ron the tally who wrote in and said that I didn't though really throw in any McConnell hey like accent I mean that's hard but I didn't really give it any of that Texas twin you could of you could have really leaned in and we might have more entries might have had more entries there wasn't there wasn't a ton Josh but we do have a

winner and you are now going to share that with us reach into the film spotting hat our winner is David Cole from Whitesboro, New York congratulations David email feedback at filmspotting.net and we will set you up with your very own filmspotting t-shirt tote bag or trial membership to the filmspotting family with the t-toy system would the t-toy system would the t-toy system would the t-toy system so same my damn why do you say that why do you say t-toy well you say like I said we move on now

to this week's edition of massacre theater and I'm going to be totally honest Josh before

“you suggested we do this scene I was only vaguely aware this movie existed I think I had heard”

about it at some point but I have definitely never seen it and based on the scene we're about to

perform which don't get me wrong it's going to be fun based on the scene I don't think I'm ever going to watch it yeah I could have told you that based on the scene I'm perplexed that I think I not only saw this and reviewed it but might have done so positively I am also perplexed I want to meet it have to check the archives on that one here's a clue for folks because this could be a bit of a challenge but it's appropriate spoiler we're going to spoil our massacre theater

scene that I'm tortured in this scene by this character yes it makes sense in the context of it's it's a connection to this show of course among among other connections to this episode yes that existed in this scene okay and the other clues we can give this to help us block that I don't need to I don't think so okay you are going to start it out so I I'm sorry I have to

helpful and action what's the torch for 2000 degrees mech enough to turn steel into butter

it won't hurt at first uh it's too hot you see the flame seers the nerve ending shut

killing them you go into shock and all you'll feel is cold isn't science fun Mickey ah ah I don't shit you'll smell burning meat and then then it'll hurt I swear I'm telling the truth and scene wow very frightening very intimidating my question is how does he how does he know all that is he speaking for personal experience did he just do science research science he

“is a science teacher in another life I think I don't think that's when that character's”

lore but well you've seen the movie it's possible if you know what film we just massacre email the movie's title your name and location he wasn't a cheery teacher the other teachers didn't like him in the lounge much email the movie's title your name and location to feed back at film spotting that net the deadline is Monday August 17th we will select the winner randomly from all the correct entries and announce it in a couple of weeks but if you've seen this movie and you know the

scene you're not a winner sorry or maybe you are maybe you are according according to me okay that's the show Josh mercifully that is the show if you want to connect with us on social media you can find adamant film spotting at instagram facebook letterbox youtube and blue sky at film spotting I am at those places as Larsson on film we're independently produced and listener supported please support us by joining the film spotting family at filmspottingfamily.com you can

listen early and add free also get monthly bonus episodes a weekly newsletter and access to the entire show archive for show t-shirts and other merch go to filmspotting.net/shop in limited release this week and you can see the movie Josh recommended the samurai and the prisoner out wide Eli Roth's ice cream man and one night only two strangers calum turner monica barbaro they meet on the one night a year

“that single people are allowed to have sex I think that's how it works suit my way first three”

have you have you like me seen that trailer about six thousand times I haven't actually okay well then you're not going to be able to help me because despite all those viewings I have no idea what the context is here is this a social construct is this are we in this video it doesn't seem

to stone it seems very like okay never mind just look at it we'll move on super troopers three

is out Josh we go from 2001 to 2018 to this weekend you can see the third be a complete as Josh and seeing all of the super troopers and we saw the first one really maybe maybe we should do a series that should be our blind spotting there you go next week in the film spotting feed we we just got an abundance of riches coming to you right film spotting feed Sunday you'll get

“the final film in our dissident cinema marathon we're talking about jafar panahi's third movie”

the circle from 2000 Monday the movie racket is back we're coming off a week of movie death match

the first Monday of every month we're back with Michael in the movie racket guess who he's having

on everybody loves sleets Dana Stevens and they're weighing in on a famous Harry cone axiom he was the co-founder of Columbia Pictures and I won't say the quote I don't have it off top my head but basically he had a famous physical tell when he knew a movie wasn't working for him Josh so they're going to get into and maybe you can share on a future show next week Josh do you have something that that kind of gives you an insight into whether or not a movie is working

for you your eye gets twitchy or something that's so like icy so like an an actual bodily actual bodily function that tells you the movie's not working oh I mean as if I wasn't going to listen to the movie racket all right that song I know it's going to be a good thing Tuesday Matt Singer and Jordan Hoffman will be back on film spotting SVU talking brand new day in the state of Spider-Man and Matt Singer he wrote the book on Spider-Man so you want to hear from him

Thursday the next picture show an inspired pairing the Anthony Bourdain biopic Tony

new the new Jane Shonebrun film teenage sex and death at camp miasma and the new Cold War drama

“the brink of war is out as well film spotting is produced by Golden Joe Desso and Sam Van”

Hogren without Sam and Golden Joe this show wouldn't go our production assistant is Sophie Campinar special thanks to everyone at WBEZ Chicago more information is available at WBEZ.org for film spotting I'm Josh Larson and I met him Campinar thanks for listening this conversation

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