A Shocking Lakers Sale. Plus, the 20 Best and Worst Youth Sports for Parents With Cousin Sal.

I had a rewatchables for you on Monday. We did the Italian job, me and Van Lathen and Chris Ryan, super fun pod and in fact we're doing two rewatchables this week. So we have another one coming on Thursday. It's a one for us, but I also think it's in the running for best-round calm of all

time. About last night with Rob Loan to me more, I came out 40 years ago. It's a really important movie and a fun one to talk about. It's on Netflix right now.

“So if you want to watch it before we do it, go check it out, but we're going to do it”

about last night being Chris Ryan and Mallory Ribbon and that's going to be up Thursday night. So to this week and then on Monday, the re-speed, yeah, the re-speed is happening. We did speed.

It was one of the first ones we ever did and now we are doing speed again.

So that is what the schedule is for re-watchables on this podcast that top I want to talk about this crazy lake or sale, I'm just going to solo that part of everything I'm hearing and all my thoughts going to just dump them on you. And then, cousin's house is coming on because this is something I want to do this whole summer and it's finally time.

The youth sport parent rankings from 20 to one. These are my rankings only. But I think the worst to best youth sports all the way through high school are for parents. And it's probably not going to be liked by everyone who listens to this podcast. But that's the thing.

It's an honest conversation and these are all my thoughts and I can't wait to go through them myself.

“So that's what we have in the docket today.”

We're going to take a break, bring a Pearl Jam and then my thoughts on the lakeers. All right, we're recording this part of the podcast around lunchtime Pacific time. I am in California where the lakeers just got sold again for the second time and less than two years in the single-mouse shocking franchise sale in the history of the National Basketball Association, which is almost eight decades old at this point.

Nobody saw this coming. There was no inclination, no inkling. There were no whispers.

I never heard one thing about this, the lakeers and the Dodgers who were both owned by

Walter were being for the last year, morphed together into basically one super franchise. There was a lot of talk about redundancy and people who had the same jobs and it was going to be a zero-sum game that the two organizations were in a mesh in all of these different ways. There was real fear in the NBA that with the bus family who had on the lakeers forever,

we're basically a mom and pop operation presiding over one of the three biggest franchises in the league that we went from the mom and pop side to now these cutthroat analytics tons of money, search for every edge and the lakeers become in the same kind of franchise that the Dodgers became who just won the last two world series and spent crazy amounts of money and have found every single possible edge.

You could find a majorly baseball at the point that we're about to have a long lockout next year because of basically what's happened with the Dodgers and a couple other things. So the thought was that this guy was going to preside over but there was a couple whispers just about what was going on with this guy became a topic this summer in Los Angeles and

“I think and in the rich guy circles too because there was a report that he had had either”

a mile or a legitimate stroke in 2024. He was being investigated by the Department of Justice and there was some possible insurance

for odd that we're always whispers about how did he come up with as much money as he came

up with to buy what I think is 78% of the lakeers. He'd already had a owned a piece and he had to shell out I think close to $5 billion to buy the rest of it and there was always talked that he got Middle East from money for that did the league know that ahead of time where did he get it. This is a bigger question about what's happening in professional sports leagues now, how

people are paying for these giant giant franchises. The craziest thing about this story is what Ramona Schelberg reported that Bob Iger and Josh Kushner, Josh Kushner is the one who bought the team. He has thrived, they have investments everywhere and he's, I think in the younger class of really, really, really rich people, he's one of the richest and he has Bob Iger

That really means that Kushner's paying for almost all of it, Iger's going to run the lakeers have thoughts on that in a second. That they called Mark Walter over the weekend, supposedly on Sunday, and asked if feed to be interested in selling and basically just try to start Godfather offering him and an end up being for $12.5 billion, the sparks were down above and Bloomberg before I started

recording this reported that he had been in talks with investors to raise money to pay down the loans he was being investigated for and there's a bunch of conspiracy theories that come out of this, but I'll go in order of the things that I thought were interesting with this. One was that Iger and Kushner were considered to be the favorites for the biggest team.

And the biggest team, the number I'd always seem to be the league was hoping to get some

$1.5 billion. That was the number that they had said, that's the number they sold the owners on. The owners voted to allow the expansion talks to happen, but they didn't vote on expansion

“and I think the big sale for Adam Silver was, if we do expansion, I will be able to get”

$15 billion from the two teams, which then because they're not to share with the players, every one of the 30 NBA owners would get a piece of that. So everybody gets a check for $500 billion if that becomes the number. What they didn't expect was Vegas became even live layer than that. Good, the Celtics said in the precedent, Chism bought the Celtics for just over $6 billion,

but it was actually more than that because he had to buy all partners, the final number and they're being around maybe $7374 billion somewhere around there. The Celtics are worth less than Vegas, apparently, because a bunch of people want to Vegas.

And then this turns into what I always talk about whenever we talk about rich people

by exports teams, it becomes the eBay auction where two people want the item and they just kind of get crazy. Well, people want to Vegas. For a bunch of different reasons, I don't really personally understand a lot of them. I don't really understand why Vegas even has to have an NBA team or why they wouldn't

move another team there. People want to Vegas and at some point I got a question and were like, well, if we're going to pay, I've heard the numbers over eight and a half and it's between eight and a half and nine hours, what they think they can get for Vegas. Those guys are like, if we're going to pay that much, let's make one more run at the

Lakers. So they get 78% of the Lakers, I think that's the number, it's 77 and 78 somewhere in there because the bus family and so a couple other investors still in small pieces.

“For 9.5 billion basically, that's what they're showing out or maybe they have to buy”

on more people, maybe the bus family is like, you know what, we want to be dragged into this too. Um, how are they going to pay for this? Private equity when you have a sale like this can only cover up to 20%. So 9.5 billion, they can get private equity for, I don't know, almost two.

That means I have to cover 50% of this, which is 7 billion somehow. Iger who made a ton of money at Disney is probably worth, you know, he's probably worth over a billion dollars. It doesn't have that kind of cash, but Custer does and Custer is at Thrive Capital, which has had big investments, all all over the place, they were in on SpaceX and there's something

bigger going on with some of the money that people are throwing around right now that we want to talk about in a second, but Custer is going to be the money guy for this. Custer, Josh Custer, brother of Jared, who is in the news a lot, now you have Trump Thrive's talk about that in a second.

“The Custer Iger combo, this is an incredible coup for Iger, and if you remember, when”

he was still at Disney and he was trying to figure out whether he wanted to leave or not,

he thought he was getting the charges in the mid-2000s and there were always stories about

that he'd misplayed it, that he was little too, let me tell you guys how this could work again, and was a little too full of himself and the NFL owner meetings, and the owners are basically like who the fuck is this guy? And steered the charges away from him and he didn't get it, and he thought he was going to be the figurehead of the second L.A. team, didn't happen, ends up he has a great first

exit from Disney, hands it off to his handpicks successor Bob Chapak can't really figure out what to do, COVID happens, and he starts undermining Chapak, this has been covered ad nausea, all over the place, including on Matt Bell and his ex on podcast, the town, and as some Disney stuff's not going great, he's all done, he's lurking again, there's

about this, and he ends up undermining his own successor and coming back to Disney, triumphantly,

“we think, because it didn't turn out to be that triampent.”

I got two point out, Disney did not go great, and I don't think, you know, it was a little like Jordan on the Wizards to be honest, and then last year the stuff that happened with Kimmel and Kimmel Show and Kimmel almost getting fired, I think I'll just tell you like, for in California it was really bad for anger, it was the first time, it's like your wife is running the school journalism at USC and you're somebody who's famously

stood up for free speech all the stuff, now you're running for the hills on this, and I don't think that was great, he kind of had this pretty flat re-exated out of Disney, I would say unceremonious as a fair word, even though he made a lot of money, and he just was, you know, obviously one of one last act, but what was it going to be, which was going to be the Vegas team, now he's getting the lakers, now he's going to, I assume

he's going to be the one running the lakers, what an incredible next act for him, right?

This is all the teams you can own, NBA NFL baseball, you name it, this is the highest

“profile team you can own if you want to lean into the profile, you're sitting courtside,”

you're charged everything, you're determining where everyone sits, you're now the power broker, the same way Joe Lakeup, who was as rich as a lot of the people that were coming to his wears games during the heyday of the Steph era, was still the guy in this room that had all these, you know, the head of Oracle, the head of Facebook, they, they, anybody, it was still like, well, you're coming into my house and sitting in my seats, it's a, it's a real

thing from an ego standpoint, and now it's going to be Bob Eiger, who was suddenly revived

his career, yet again, incredible careers, but kind of not a bunch of times, and it's

happening, okay, what does this mean for the Dodgers, Lakers, and their organizational alliance, nobody knows, Walter spent the last year integrating the two organizations and trying to turn them into one bigger organization, well, I don't know, Chris, not going to go for that. So, his magic, still going to be involved, magic thought he was going to be involved with the Lakers and Dodgers together, is he involved anymore? Are they going to want him or are they

going to need him? Who knows? What does this mean for the future of the Dodgers? If Walter is basically flipping the Lakers and grabbing the cash, does that mean the Dodgers could be potentially in danger as well? We'll see, what does this mean for Walter's future as a businessman? And somebody who everybody thought had the deepest pocket is possible, but is now flipping franchises because either he thinks he's in trouble or needs the money, not great? A couple bonus things

out of this. And again, I'm taping this, it's lunchtime. So, things might have changed, we'll have to find out more information. What happens to the L.A. Sparks? WMBA, hottest that's ever been, and in some ways, coldest that's ever been with some of the stupid dialogue about the league, but hottest from players, valuations for the franchises, the new media deal, L.A. Sparks

“is not in the sale. So, does that mean Mark Walther is going to hand that over to a magic?”

It's magic and a buy from him. They're trying to tank and get the number one pick because people think if they get it, you do walk-ins is going to come out after her U.S. C season. So, what happens in the Sparks, which I would say is one of the four best teams telling in the WBA, that's one. Two, you saw Jeff Schwartz, who's one of the most successful agents of this century,

came out right after with a statement saying, quote, incredible, the L.A. yourself are 12 billion,

now it's 12.5, yet teams won't spend on older vets because the current CBA rules. Thank you, Union. So, all this is going to do is exacerbate all of this post CBA remorse that basically, everybody has except for the owners, because it turned out awesome for them. All it did was supercharge franchise values, it cut down their costs, they can't, they kind of protected themselves from themselves and meanwhile, you have Anthony Simon's making six million a year in the sixers

when he's a $50 million dollar pair. So, that's going to start the bubble up, too. Why do we have a second apron, but franchise valuations are going on the highest I've ever been, that's going to be down like, then the third thing, I was surprised how many threads I was on today that somebody mentioned this to me, Bob Iger, big Chris Paul guy, big Chris Paul guy. When I was at ESPN, the two guys that he loved were Chris Paul and Johnson Billups, I don't think Johnson is going to

be involved with this like yourself, that's one of my big predictions. You can pencil pencil him out. Chris Paul, who just retired, trying to figure out what to do next, I just feel like he's

before LeBron James or we're going to see, what does this mean for Rob Pelinka? Are they going to push him out? You think Bob Iger wants to do with Rob Pelinka? Could you see him put his own people there, including Chris Paul? Keep it on Chris Paul. Okay, conspiracy bill, we're going to bring him in it for this. Best Mark Walter conspiracy theory is that heard. I can't vouch for any of these. I'm just

“telling you what's going around. Health wasn't great. I had to get out. I think that's a fair one”

considering we know he had medical issues about to get completely fucked in the insurance fraud case, somebody texted me. Maybe. Had a ton of Middle East money in the deal? I think that's true. In the Middle East investors, one of the money back is a conspiracy. I don't know if I believe that, but I like it. That sounds like a movie. The other part of that conspiracy could be. He had more Middle East money in the deal than Adam Silver realized. Adam Silver wasn't happy about it.

This is why we bring conspiracy bill. He's laying out the landscape for you. And then the biggest conspiracy going around right now that Mark Walter sold to this Christian Rager group because Christian's brother has major Trump ties and Trump controls the DOJ in the

“Kushner connection that will get them to call the FBI dogs off. That is even too hot for conspiracy”

bill. Who knows? It might be pieces of all of those things. It might just be, this guy's might be as simple as I'm really worried about my net worth. I just need to flip this asset and make money. And I got a godfather offer from these guys that really wanted a team. Last piece is the most interesting. You've heard variations of everything I just talked about. If you're looking at the NBA teams that just got sold in the last 12 years.

2014, Steve Bommar, Quippers, 2 billion. Didn't own their own arena.

2015 Hawks, 850 million. Seemed high at the time. The Atlanta Hawks really? The net's 2019, 2.35 million. That included the arena and the liberty. Also kind of same time. But the size didn't care. He's got a ton of money. Now we're getting into the bargain area during like right before during and after COVID, the jazz 1.66 million with the arena, 80% stake. So basically valued at two. Ryan Smith just figured it out. Got the hockey team. Now he's

got a whole arsenal there. Timberwolves. 1.5 billion paid entranches almost like when you bought a lawnmower from somebody and you want to pay them once a month for the next three months or something.

1.5 billion total for the timberwolves, including the arena, Glen Taylor to the bitter end,

just making the worst deals possible. Really, one of the worst basketball owners of all time. He couldn't even sell his team properly because less than two years later, the Hornet. So for three billion dollars, what's the difference between the Hornets and the timberwolves to small markets? Like the Sun's in 23, 4 billion. Notice how we're going up. We were in the ones. Now I'm at four with the Sun's. That included the arena to Ishpia. Mavericks, 2024. 3.5 billion for the majority.

That includes the arena, Cuban kept the stake. Celtics. 6.1. And then when you've figured in all the

buyout people that they had, it's closer to the low sevens. Lakers last year, 10 billion value.

The actual amount of money wasn't that. And then 26 to 12. Did I ever think we would have a $12 billion MBA team? In basically the 2020s or 2030s? No. Especially the only one I would have said was the next because of MSG and the Rangers and you could have told me, you put all those assets together,

“could don't have gotten eight figures. I think he could have. Well, now he's looking at this going”

holy shit. We're talking in this price range now. A bigger question. Why are these franchise valuations skyrocketing like they are? Because we just saw Liverpool, which the Fenway Sports Group is unraveling a sale for, they just announced like Bayzos isn't it? There's some reasons. I asked around on this and I think this is a pretty good list of reasons for this. There's more money for huge ass purchases like this than ever before. And that happened for a bunch of reasons.

AI, supercharges stock market, Trump administration relaxed a bunch of the rich guy rules.

private equity out there than ever before. People are just getting better and better at the private

“equity thing. This has been a 40 year run here of where you had only a couple players a while ago.”

And now pretty much everybody's trying to do this and put together pieces of stuff and things that make sense together. Like you look at what our Emmanuel and those guys are doing, like the stuff that they invest in. It's a lot about live event experience and things that tying together was some sort of like fan event venue and how all that stuff intersects with meteorites seems to be the thing that they care about. They just announced a huge thing where they bought a bunch of

stuff involved in Broadway. But that's like their angle. And a lot of these people that are coming into this space seem to have certain angles. And one of those angles with the money that's out

there is like guess what never goes down ever. Professional sports teams guess what nobody has ever

read and ever buying one of the signature best trophy professional sports teams. So look at this stuff that's sold recently. The commanders who used to be the Washington Redskins. Now they're the commanders. But NFL in Washington, you're buying from Daniel Snider. They went over six billion

“belakers, the Celtics, Liverpool. I think this keeps happening and at some point there's probably a”

bubble for it. And maybe it'll be after Trump's term is over. Maybe it'll happen sooner. Maybe there'll be some Black Swan event we don't know about. But everyone is buying in at the highest highest, highest possible version of this bubble because they have money to spend. You know, like SpaceX, a lot of people made a shitload of money from that, including Josh Kushner. And they want to park that money. They want to put it somewhere. What better place to park it

than a sports team, especially in iconic sports team, where you have fixed costs. You get the ego from it. People are asking your life, "What do you invest in?" I said this. Oh, and I bought the lakers. You bought the lakers? Oh my god. I didn't realize you were the lakers owner. At some point this is a bubble. And I don't know when it is. But these prices are so high that I'm thinking about like what's next? The Chicago Bulls is there a number now that Ryan's North would think,

"All right, I got a, what am I doing? I got to get out of this." I could get 10 billion for the

“Bulls. I should do this. Chicago Bears, I think, is another one. I think the New York Jets,”

Dolan's conglomerate. And then I wouldn't want to let the Warriors just from the standpoint of, we took the Steph Curry run as far as we could possibly go. We built the arena. We make the most revenue of any team in the league. Maybe it's time to sell high. Could this be what happens? Here's where we should all be scared as fans. People are moving into these leagues with the signature teams that are doing it solely because of the financial piece and not for any other reason.

Bob Ager is a next fan who has clippers isn't tickets. He's not a laker fan. I don't know what team question routes for, but that's whatever it is. That's not why they bought it. They bought it because the Los Angeles lakers were seeing this over and over again now with the wealthiest of the wealthy buying sports teams as assets and thinking about them like assets. Now you have a commissioner

Adam Silver, who I've been somewhat critical of the last, I don't know, two years or so because I

feel like the league is so revenue driven and so franchise price driven that they're kind of not seeing the forest through the trees anymore. You could see with the WMBA. All the ways they handle this WMBA asset, which is the league owns a piece of. I just disagree with a lot of it. I didn't like that they overexpanded. They've added three expansion teams, reasons they're men unclear. They did this media deal where it's on seven different channels and it's a pain in the

asked figure out who's who. They don't have a real commissioner in place that can solve some of the issues that seem to be repeatedly popping up with this league. Like you know what the league needed. I'm starting on a WMBA tangent, but the league more than anything else needed somebody and a adult to say stop with all the discourse. All this stuff that has nothing to do with the basketball players we have in the product we're putting on the floor. Let's talk about our stars. Let's talk

about our team, our best teams and all the positives that have happened over the last few years with this league and said all the dumb shit. Anybody who's trying to die on the dumb shit for clicks, for attention, for social video, whatever, don't have good intentions and those people should not be spearheading and pushing the dialogue about our league. Well nobody did that and it's just going to continue to happen and meanwhile you have a game like last night where the fever looked

herself and a press conference. Everyone in the WMBA has to defend themselves. Why? The league's the best

“it's ever been. The scoring's up and I look at the NBA and I wonder like with the second apron”

and the players in and the revenue stuff and all the stuff they have to care about with the new media deal, I still maybe it's a pipe dream at this point. You still want to think that the people running the best teams actually care about those teams. Like regardless, the chism who bought

the Celtics so I really like and I will never understand why they traded Jayland Brown

but at least I know it wasn't a financial decision, right? The money thing wasn't different. There was something else going on there with Jayland and Jason and them feeling like they had maybe Brown made a trade who knows what happened. But he at least has my trust that I do think he cares about the team that he grew up watching and caring about that he's not going to want to do wrong by that franchise and by the fan base. You start letting these big money people in here

that only care about the investment and only care about what they're getting over the players what the economics of the league are. Everything is seen through the prism of finance and this is just listen. In the 1950s and 60s, if you go back and read about the history of the league, you had teams that owned a BA teams that owned bowling alloys, right? Teams that their entire business rose or fell with how they did with like the Boston Celtics, like Walter Brown around

the Celtics and the Bruins and in the 70s and 80s the NBA started teams would get flipped over and over again. The Celtics had six seven owners in the 70s and 80s and at one point John White Brown who owned the Celtics in the earth level and who owned Buffalo just flipped teams and they just

“changed owners. Like it was just crazy background shit that would never happen now. And I think”

the Maverick's when they were an expansion team in 1980 or anyone it was like 12 million and there's been levels of when the numbers went up and the numbers were realistic until about three four years ago. And now they're not realistic. I don't think the Lakers are worth 12 billion dollars when they don't even own their own stadium. Somebody thought they were at that because they paid it and they're going to figure out how to turn that into an asset and advantage but that's a

crazy price. And I guess this is just where we're going to be with with pro sports with these bigger things. Like you just these teams are going to get bought and in the old days you would be worried that you had some drunk owner, you know, or some or a bad guy or somebody who leveraged himself

and then didn't have enough money to run the team or somebody this was the fourth most important

thing they did and they didn't care or they got left the team and they don't care about it. We had that with the Celtics with Paul Gaston, Don Gaston son. But now we're moving to this whole

“other era where these things are just giant hedge fund plays. And is it going to be good for the league?”

Is it going to be good for professional sports? My instinct is no, but I'm a glass half of the optimistic person. I think this is watching somebody flip the Lakers over year and a half like he's flipping a mansion in Bel Air or something is fucking bonkers. This is the crown jewel of the league. The Lakers in the next are the two most important teams in the league. I'm a Celtic fan even how to myth that Celtics have the tradition, the titles, the fan base, all that stuff. But if you're just talking

about the two most important teams in the league from cities, ratings, money they make, it's the

Lakers and it's the next and one of them just got flipped like a house. So what's it going to mean? I guess we will find out. We're going to take a break. Come back talk about you sport power ranking for parents. Yeah, we're going from the Lakers to you sports right after this. This episode is brought to you by chat GPT. Imagine you're running a professional sports team. Nice. That would be a dream, man. Imagine the player contract report is due today. Not so nice.

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a ton of time until football season. We're in football prep mode. You've been on the

“ring or wise guys we're calling it now, which is our oral gambling show, which is on Twitch and YouTube”

and Spotify breaking down divisions. But you just came back from Cooper's town. Yes. Let's do it. Let's just do the football. Cooper's town is fine. But let's just do the what are we ready? We're ready. I'm ready. We're recording the football on August 27th of Thursday and we're doing a two-partner. I couldn't be more excited because we were now 15 days away from that. But this was the perfect time. My daughter's last college soccer season coming up.

You just went to Cooper's town. Your son's team finished six out of like 102 teams. You just live this whole week long. You think you're in a sports movie. And one of the questions that I get the most because people know from the podcast from other stuff that I've been a soccer dad for a long time. When you meet these people who have younger kids and are like, "What would you give me some advice? What do you think my kids should play?"

What sport would you recommend? I always find, so I'm finally like, "Fuck it. We're just going

to do this." But before we do that, so you've done one of your son's played football. You're a son that did wrestling. And then your youngest son is in a whole bunch of stuff, but probably like, "Space ball the most." So what's your favorite out of all those? I can speak to football, wrestling, baseball, basketball, and rugby, actually. Now, Tommy, as the five that I've competed in or my kids have, I have to pick a favorite right off the bat. No, you don't. Save it. Save it.

Save it. We'll save it for the rest. All right. We're going to hate this. We're going to go from from 20 to 1. We're a sport for your kid to play from a parent experience. We are not talking about the kids. This is just, this is all selfish. This is just for the parents telling me, parent only rankings from 20 to 1. And we're just going to try to give you some some wisdom. I have

some some guidelines here. I have seven questions. The first one is, "How does the sport actually

append your life?" Which is an underrated part of being a use sports parent. Does it regularly affect

“the time you wake up? Do you have to spend a lot of time driving to far tournaments? Are your”

weekends just destroyed? Is there food diet stuff that has to dread? Like you wrestled in high school, like, you know, there's there's a too much stretch where you're not allowed to basically anything. How upset will your kid be if you miss one of the events and how upset will you be? And then if your weekends are going to be ruined for years or at least having fun or somewhat fun. So from a parent standpoint, I think that's number one. Baseball, you've been in a lot of. It's a lot

of driving. Yeah, well, first of all, we should clarify a little because like what are the what time period? Right? Because literally baseball when they're six is delightful. I mean, what's better than staring at them in the cute uniform? So he eaten hit the ball and he immediately ran the third base. How cute. But if Ethan does that when he's 12, you're looking to fight his father.

“Right? So, you know, I, I guess we'll put it at, what range we put it in?”

A post, it's, this is a whole run. Yeah. We're assuming that your kid is going to at least be confident enough to play from, let's say age six all the way through around high school age if it goes well. Okay. Okay. Second, second question. You just were in the middle of this. What's the parent culture around the sport? What type of other parents are you consistently hanging out with? How much do you actually have to hang out with them? Are there outs? Can you wander off? Can you like

baseball? You can be like, oh, I'm going to go watch some of this from left field, but you're really trying to get away from agro dad. How crazy are the parents on a scale of one to ten? Just day to day regularly, a practice is how competitive are they with the other kids and parents on the team for scholarships, stuff, whatever. And just can you move in and out of this?

So wrestling, you go and you're in the stands, you never know. You're, you're watching

everybody else and then your kids up and everybody's kind of pulling for everybody else and wrestling, right? Absolutely. Yep. I would say wrestling, you're stuck in a smelly gymnasium for a tournament. I would say like a meat on the Tuesday or Thursday is a little more manageable. You know when your kid is wrestling, you can invite relatives out for a tournament, weigh ins could be 3/3 in the morning. Yeah. The tournament starts at 9 and here she could wrestle at 10 and then 2 depending

on the way class. So that part of it is miserable, I would say. And not to spoil my rankings,

event times, yes, is so much more important and crucial to this than people seem to realize,

where it's like, my son has a track and field meet today. Well, what is it going to be? I have no idea. It could be 9/30. It could be 2. There could be a race here. We might have 7 hours to go. Now I'm meeting a hot dog from the concession stand or chips or stuff out of a bending machine. Oh, do we have time to drive 10 minutes to go to like jack in the box? The, the more uncertain you have around the schedule, the less fun it is. So you have that. The next question is how expensive

is the sport to become good at? So that includes special travel teams, club teams, special expensive equipment. You know, like, I think like lacrosse, hockey, some of these ones where you, oh, I or even baseball gloves, like, oh, my kid grew. I have to get more stuff. Oh, it's another

year, although lacrosse Dick is too short from now. I got to get that again. Oh, I got to get another,

you know, helmet for whatever I got to get new gloves, the whole thing of that. It's hard to explain the reaction you have when you buy an expensive bat for your kid for Christmas. And then he's using the best hit or on the teams bat by the MLK tournament. Right. And you're like, I just, this is our big Christmas gift. He would fall out later. It's too small. And then private training and private coaches, because there's some of these where, you know, call privates. But like, in baseball, if you

want your kid to actually play in college, you're going to start doing privates. If your kids

“of figure skater, like, that's a whole that now you have to hire a coach. Like, that's going nuts.”

Versus, like, some of these other sports, you know, basketball, you could have, you could definitely have privates. You could also just be a really good athlete who could just lay some some sneakers and go out there and play for a club team. Yeah. I think this is for me, because my kids a tweener, right? He's not terrible, but he's not going to play pro or anything close. And all of his friends are in that category. So what do you do with the private lessons? You

do don't want him to embarrass himself. But I feel like this isn't the, the e-bike cell phone category.

Like, they never need it until a couple of their friends take it. And then you're screwed. So you

really have to rally the parents to resist as much as you can. I would say for soccer, it is important. Yeah. That's, that's when we go through all the, I'll talk about the different ones. But for some of them, like, just like technique sports with technique, if you're a baseball pitcher at some point, you're going to have some sort of private coach who helps you with your throwing motion on that stuff. All right. So that's expensive is another category. So that's

three. So we have, does this sport append your life? What's the parent culture? How expensive it is? The fourth one is physical mental health risk for your kid. I would argue this is the most important. We're talking about concussion potential. We're talking

“about dieting and all the crazy shit you have to do to compete in certain sports.”

Injury of potential is your body going to be the same when you're 30 years old because you played this sport. Also, are you solo? Is all the pressure on you or are you part of a team? I would argue it's better to be part of a team and have that dynamic and learn how to compete with other people. And the solo thing can can get weird, but also, like, it's easier to succeed in. Does the sport get you in better shape? There's certain sports where, like, if you play soccer,

you're just in good shape. Right. You can play baseball and potentially not be in great shape. But physical mental health risk. So you're a wrestler. You, you have all the dieting stuff, all the crazy. You're running up and down the stairs. It's 110 degrees. You have the pressure of these matches of letting the team down. I would say that's like a nine out of 10 pressure toll on your body sport, right? Yeah. I think it's like you're sending your kid to the

off to the to the service, like to to the ons forces. And without doing that, you know, without getting in a fight with your wife about doing it. But, but that's like, you would do it again. It's the best in the worst. I put it at the top in the very bottom because it's like the mental torture takes,

“the physical torture it takes, but later in life, if you have to lose weight, whatever you got that,”

you're you are rooting for your team, but it isn't individual sport. I would say from a parents perspective, if you like to blame people, you're not going to be able to do it. Like, I know we all love to blame people. We're all in the Twitter universe, right? We like the blame or what a politics. Well, it's, oh, it's got to be someone else's fault. Once in a while, a referee will call, I'll take down out of bounds. It didn't happen. But for the most part,

it's your kid f and up or your kid doing great. So the heiser as high as they can be in the losers, low as it can be. Yeah. Anything when it's just you cross countries like this,

destiny, there's no other people to blame. You can't say all the coaches kid was playing

“the wrong position or he, my, my kid should have been there. And instead, they played him with it.”

Like, you have no excuses. You're just looking at in the mirror. Um, and then, you know, there's some, you're talking about the more physical sports, there's a real toll that happens. Like, my son in the high school played as a freshman in sophomore played football in the cross. And he's still, he didn't want to play. I mean, his body is still banged up. Like, he has hip stuff already. He had like two minor precautions. And, um, and then looking back, you're like,

man, should we have let him play football at all? And you have the, the parent goat. Parent goat is almost its own category in this. Um, yeah. He's good to say for that. They're just

real quick. Like, you know, uh, football as far as like a spectator sport. This is all subjective.

You could like soccer better, but Friday night, under the lights, nothing better. That's about it. TV shows about it. Movies about it. But same time, you talk about like skipping a game.

“Like, the, one of the parents kind of has to be there. Just in case that all got awful”

thing that we'd read about happens, you know, the head injury or whatever, which the ambulance has taken kids off the field. It's not as much a concern with, you know, golf or, you know, the field hockey, but it is football, for sure. Yeah. And in having been in the stands a couple times when that happens. It's the single worst feeling of like somebody got hurt. Somebody's down. They stopped the game. Like, it's, and he was like, oh, Friday night, football. It's so much fun.

And then it's like, holy shit. What are we doing? That kids 15 is getting carted up. Um, three more categories is their actual realistic college scholarship potential. Could this weirdly all pay off all the time you're spending, um, doing whatever private, anything? Could you, could this be a shortcut to not having to pay for college, which can be like half a million dollars and five, six years? Um, and then which sports

are the sneaky best bets to get a scholarship? I factored that in the ranking, too. Oh, I thought you said, which can you bet on, which is also, no, we could also, which sports are better. Yeah. Uh, but like, water polo is the sport you and I would have been like, yeah, been skating in a water polo or yeah, Harrison's a big water polo guy down. You're like, what? Right. Water polo. And then you watch like, my son's school had all these kids just going

from the water polo team tall. These, you know, pretty prestigious colleges, because it's not a sport that everybody has. So if you're lucky enough to live in an area that has something like that,

you know, is a water polo college athlete? Who's that? You'll never guess this. I don't think

you know the answer to this. Joe has, really. Joe has was a big high school water polo and basketball, but then in college did water polo for a couple years until I think we'll shame him and made fun of him to get him to stop. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. Joe, how did he stop? He could not throw. Probably didn't want to just be treading water in a pool. Okay, in the Patriot League. Uh, all right, two more categories. Parent and entertainment value.

So this is a positive category. Yeah. How much fun is it to attend the games? Are the schedules consistent? Are you outdoors or indoors? How easy? This is a big one for you. How easy it for you to sneak away and do a work call or some sort of other call during the event? Do you

“flexibility or you have to be locked in scared the entire time? Are there brave places? I have”

a bed on the undercard and the UFC and Saudi Arabia at 2 p.m. And I have to get away and watch that match. And uh, you know, we'll see what little Nathan does afterwards. Right. Well, and then can you watch? Can you watch stuff during the event? I mean, and we would do Sunday pods where Zoe had a soccer tournament. And I would have Sunday ticket on my phone while she's playing games trying to keep track of everything and taking notes and soccer is a little easier, but

there's some other sports that would not be as easy. And you're guilty either way, you feel guilty because you're missing a kid a little bit or you're missing the Sunday slate. And I have to how am I going to go on Sunday night and make it like I've watched everything. But the only other piece for parent entertainment value is is the actual sport. Relatively easy to understand. Is it fun for the parent? Do you feel like you could have some sort of opinion slash respectable thoughts about

what you're watching? Or are you just like what going there going? I don't know what the folks going on. Where this goes wrong is baseball, where everybody thinks they're the biggest expert in the world. So that this is uh, pros and cons, the easier the sport is to understand the more people are weighing in with some of the worst takes of all time. You're in the middle of

Yeah, there's people aggressively like screaming. Buck, buck, every pit, you know, it's like that's not a

“buck. You stepped off, cut it out. There's that part of it. And then there's your wife or husband”

who doesn't know the game after, you know, nine years of this is just like so wait, they have to tag him at first but don't have to tag him on a ground ball. Right. No, no, no. But I will say this like there was something comforting when my son Archie my oldest decided to play rugby uh sophomore year and aside from like worried that he'll get need in the face. But you know, well, it could say where those, those goofy kind of protective helmets, but not the nothing really on the face.

There was something nice about not knowing the rules and just like kind of watching along. And you know, I didn't get loud about anything because I didn't know the rules. So, you know, when they're throwing it in and one kid standing on the other shoulders and there's a throwing like it was fine to me. So I don't know. It's a, it could go either way. I had this with the cross.

The cross is a sport I'd never followed in any capacity. Never watched, never cared about.

And then my son got pulled on to the lacrosse team and all of a sudden was playing when he was a ninth grader. And I didn't know what was going on. And I, I, I had became like, it was almost like I was a foreigner sitting on the sidelines being like, so you, so that guy can't go past midfield and these people can run off and they're back on and wait, why didn't that go account? That was just confused for two months. I couldn't understand anything. The goals were fast. These fouls. Then it would be like,

there would be like this delayed power play. We were, if you had the ball and then the guy's running off, but you still have it. And it's like, well, is you got for 30 seconds or two minutes? And I don't know. It was a lot. As long as it eventually makes sense. It eventually makes sense. But it's like VAR. Yeah. For all of this whole summer when we went. Right. All right. Last question bonus question. This is a really important one.

When you talk to grownups, your age are a little younger, but adults about the sport that they devoted their youth to. What do they say in retrospect? Are they happy? They did it. Would they run it back? Would they do it over again? This is the number one gymnastics is the number one for this. I'm still waiting to meet the first person who did gymnastics all the way through high school of college. And I was like, that was great. I would definitely 100% do that again.

The person does that exist. Even people like who went on Olympic gold better. It's like, yeah,

“I don't know. If I run that one back. And football is another one where I think if you talk to”

people who played football and high school in college afterwards, yeah, football was great. Would I do it again? No. So it's an interesting one. Whereas other ones like soccer, unless you had some terrible injury or something for the most part, or volleyball, nobody's like,

oh, yeah, I would never play volleyball again. You know, yeah, I mean, first of all, when you ask

them the question, you're hoping they haven't sustained enough injuries, whether they're not able to verbalize anything. So they're taking the answer. But I do have a personal story with this, I'll bring up Tony Romo here. It's not exactly play out, but you said, but I wanted my kid. I wanted Archie to play football, starting in seventh grade, like tackle football. And like we knew the Romos and we went out with them, started a name drop, whatever. And I asked, uh,

I was like, I'll get Tony to convince Melissa and his wife will agree. And that'll be nice. It's like Tony Archie could play tackle in seventh grade, right? Right? And he's like, yeah, they could wait till tenths. And I was like, what? You're just rolling for me. You just took three years of my life, right? Even though you might have added three to his, but that's not the answer. I want that to hear. So yeah, you will get, you will get negative bonus feedback for whatever

reason from these athletes. Yeah, I wish I wish we had held Ben out until tenth grade because he was ninth grade. He was starting playing, you know, against 18 year olds. I look back at that. I'm like, this is fucking crazy. But he was doing well. And it seemed like a good idea. Now, I really regret that. So the questions are, do they acknowledge now as bad for their bodies? Were they more

“less likely to have a positive or negative experience with a coach depending on the sport?”

You have some sports where if you have the wrong coach, you never want to play that sport again.

You could have other sports. Or it's like, oh, man, that guy changed the course of my life. Or that lady. If I hadn't met that person, I'd probably wouldn't be doing this for a living. Another good question is which sport do you actually wish you would play it? And then, uh, then the big one. Can you keep playing the sport after high school or college?

Which I think it's lost in this whole thing where it's like, if you play football, you're done playing football either in high school or college. You never play it again, right? There's other sports. Like, if you get in a golf when you're six,

play a team with them somewhere. I never ends. Tennis is another one. Like, if I'm good at tennis,

and I have the mechanics of a serve and I can play serve and volley, I'm playing until I'm 75.

“You know, and that's it. It's just those two right. Pickleball, I guess if you want to count it now.”

I don't know how there's some beat that I don't have. Yeah, pickleball did not make our list for top of running. But beach volleyball is another one. You could probably play until your 20s or 30s. My daughter's talking about this now because she's, she's really competitive. And she's like, I'm not playing. This is my last soccer year. I'm done. I'm one of my good to do after. And I think she's going to start playing tennis and I really try to get good at it.

Because she's like, I can play tennis. Like, by double as you play singles. Right. Like, my wife plays five days a week. And, you know, she's close to our edge. So, so those are the big ones. So this seven are, I'm going to call life grenade. How much does this blow up your life when your kid plays the sport? Parent culture around it. Fine answers. How expensive it is. Physical mental health risks.

College scholarship potential. Parent entertainment value. For us personally, do we have a good time watching it? And then post playing career regrets for the people we know. Those are the seven caccos. The other thing. Maybe, maybe, maybe this isn't a separate question because it's all encompassing, but what percentage of the games you're rooting against your kid's team for

“whatever reason? Oh, to have the weekend and early. Because you have to get back. Because you have to”

do something else. Because they're going to get killed by the next team anyway. But there's a baseball number one for that. Where it's like, oh, man, two more and it's a mercy role when we can get out of here. It is. It's number one. It's definitely number one. One thing I didn't have on here. Just so people know is flag football, which I think 10 years from now. I think flag football will

basically be football for everyone under 16. And flag football's great. I had so much fun when my

one, my son played for his school, the willows that won the eighth grade title, which was like one of my great sports moments as a parent. But super fun and not, you don't have to worry about like a major injury for the most part. You might have like, once the kids get better, you might have the collision over the middle. Where somebody's gone for an interception and maybe they hit heads. You see some kids win a cabs. But for the most part, really safe. And I think that's

going to keep taking off. And I think you would put football number one for entertainment value and everything else in camaraderie and parents and be able to get away. And all those things you talk about, if not for the injury risk and that flag football could be just as exciting on a Friday night. If you have a competitive game, my kids been in it for like six years now. So it's great. Oh, and jury. All right. We're going to take a break when we're going to come back and we're going

to unleash the top 20. All right. Top 20 best youth sports for parents from 20 to one, 20 being the worst. Very important. These are not South's rankings. These are my rankings. Yeah. South's my conciliary slash sounding board. I'm happy to move stuff around coming in last number 20 figure skating. I think it's the perfect sport storm. I think it checks every negative box incredibly expensive horrific ice rink times. Right. You're getting, oh, I got to get a joey's got

figure skating. But for 15 tomorrow morning, it's the only time we get the ice rink. Lonely. You're relying on coaches that could be terrible or great. And the upside is I don't know. They don't have really a figure skating scholarship, right? So the upside is my kid might be able to go pro and make money in the odds of that. Your competing against literally

“everybody else in the planet. And you have to buy skates every year. And you can't really do it”

then when you're older except for if you're doing like a Christmas stroll skate. This is my number one worst. And I don't think it's arguable. What do you think? Pretty good. I would say the only good thing is you don't have, you know, you're not freezing outside. The rain, the weather doesn't affect because it's indoors. That's the only good thing. You're right about the morning times.

But the rinks are cold though. The rinks are kind of cold. Yeah. And this could always be

some lunatic who hit your knee with a lead pipe and who the hell knows. It goes on and off for on soft for decades. Yeah. Yeah. I would put that to, by the way, this is going to be ready for this because you're going to get more backlash from your list no matter what. I haven't even heard it. Yeah. Then any other podcast you've ever done. I'm fine. I'm going to take it. This is just my wrecking zone. And if it's an opinion, opinions are like assholes. Everybody has

one. Everyone's going to have a hundred. Yeah. Figure skating. Also, when it kind of goes up and

got to pay coaches. Like if you're doing this, you better know from age four, your kid is an absolute prodigy. I don't, I don't see it. And the weight thing is a problem too, right? Like keeping the weight down. Yeah. There's a whole bunch of, yeah. There's a whole bunch of eating stuff that could happen to. All right. I guess the benefit is if you're, if you're pairs, very tight relationship with your pairs partner. So you're not, you're not alone.

That's true. You're fine to find a partner. Also, when you think about scariest moment as a parent, like let's say your kid's getting good at figure skating and is in subternament, but then does the trick. Oh, here comes the triple axel and then falls. Is there, would be more devastating other than like if your kid's a kicker and football in college? And your kid misses the kick and there's 75,000 people there and your kid just blew everybody the game. penalty kicks, maybe.

Baseball that you're just, your kid's never playing football is probably the biggest

amount of football. Yeah. Thanks. So interest picks six or something. Something like that. But yeah, it does the individualize as much as anything else. Figure skating last. Second of last gymnastics, easily could have been number 20. In actual body ruiner, there's, there is a really good book

“that somebody wrote like 30 years ago. I think it's called Little Girls and Pretty Boxes about like”

especially gymnastics like it has real, real effects on its stunts growth like knee back stuff. One of my wife's best friends did gymnastics and is like an advocate now. For please, don't ever, don't have your kids do this. Yeah, it's just, there's, you have back stuff, you have spine stuff, you have leg stuff, you can have foot stuff, you're constantly like, oh, I'm a little sore, but we have a meat tomorrow. I gotta play like, I'm, I'm out on gymnastics.

A lot of people like it. Well, everyone loves it. The summer for the summer Olympics isn't it the most watch? I mean, it's like, it's the best of the best. So one thing the whole family will get together and watch, I feel like, yeah, but those are like the best 50 ever. Like what about all the other ones who who went through college? See, this is where people are going to get mad. Well, they should do it. That's where you, the Simone Biles of the World. Okay, this isn't for everybody. In fact,

“it's just for the like seven of us, and that's it. I try. I think dance is more interesting for”

gyms because we had some some little girls like we had Zoe did gymnastics for, I don't know, like the first year and they were like, you got to get her coming five days a week. She could

be amazing and we were like, Zoe's going to be like five nine, but we're just going to be a gymnast.

But I think there's, there's, I would push toward dance would be my parent advice. That's saying I'm right around. But if you want a little girl to be limber and do stuff, like, like, go the dance route because you're going to get great balance from it and everything else. I have my, my buddy Tony, I wasn't sure if you're going to include dance, not our mutual friend Tony, but I did, he did say insert dance in there. And he's like, from a parent's

perspective, it's awful because you're seeing them do the same five-minute routine over and over and over and over again. Yeah, it was not dance to that make the cut. Right. Number 18 swimming. Yeah. So, bunch of stuff going on here. The all-day meets we talked about with wrestling,

especially if your kids doing multiple things, you might, the first one might be at seven,

30, and then the next one's at two and then the last ones at five. Our buddy Gus had a kid. It was a swimmer and it was the meets. It really, it's an all-day or with the added bonus, you can barely tell which kid is yours if you're in like the bigger things. It's like, is that seen lean five, lean four, and then then you're going and there's a lot of chlorine exposure. Yeah. And at the benefits are you get in six shape. Yep. And there's scholarship

“potential, but I don't know. I'm just, right? Where do you find the image issues for sure?”

Right. I mean, six great on. You're in a, you're in a one-piece. Yeah, that's it or boy or girl. So, it is tough. Yeah, that chlorine killed me. My kid trained for junior guards out here to be a lifeguard and it wasn't swim meets, but it was a lot of intensive, and the coaches can be crazy too. That's an underrated, like, like, you know, iron shaft type coaches in the background. See, you're just a Zaclo who's dad was a famous high school coach in Greenwich for swimming,

and he's going to be furious. That swimming came 18. Look, there's no losers. These are just the rankings. I include diving and swimming. This is all anything with a pool. Also, pool times hard,

anyways, swimming's 18. Wrestling 17 for a lot of the stuff we mentioned, and I say this knowing

“that you loved wrestling, but when you think, when your kid wins a match and pin somebody,”

about as exciting as it's going to get for a parent and better. And then I would say every other piece of it's terrible. A lot of it's terrible. Yeah. The disciplines great for later in life, like I said, the body thing, like if you're 100 and 12 pounds trying to get down to 106, now you're talking about like, you know, 8% of your body weight, and that's something growth, and those 12 pounders are, or it'd be tougher than to get to 135, 140 in their later years.

The times, like I said, all over the place scattered. Don't know when invite people to watch your kid for a tournament. Yeah, I mean, I'm in my car for four hours watching EPL on my phone

because the time between the weighants 7 a.m. and his first match is 11, and I don't even know if

that's, that's going to be, you know, that's another thing. If you're, if you're school or whatever,

“there's a whole other story. We didn't have buses, so we had to each drive our kid for the weighants”

an hour and a half. Yeah, you get the weighants too. It's rough. Yeah. One other benefit other than when your kid wins, I mean, and then when your kid loses, it's devastating. But you can use this later in life. Like you're like a sneaky, I would trust you in a dark alley as my sidekick if we had to fight people. Like you do have moves and, I don't know, you learn some stuff that you're, you're cagey. Yeah, there's no, you're just a team in high school, right? So this is it. If you want

to be able to handle yourself and a fight, like a lot of these fights end up on the ground. So but no, I don't, I don't use it for offense. Bill, you know that. I'm a defense officer. You're like Mr. Miyagi. Miyagi all the way. Yeah, you know, you're that's fussed upon somebody unless you're challenged. All right. So number 17. I'm sorry. Number 16 and 15. I put together cycling and cross-country. Cross-country is interesting. No, a couple cross-country parents. The kids buy themselves

just doing stuff. They're on a team and it's fun, but it's really just them. But the real problem is

there's when you actually have like a meet, there's nowhere to go. You basically have to pick a spot.

It's like, oh, my son runs 10k. It's like, oh, he's going to run. All right. I'm going to pick this, we'll go meet him at the halfway there in the trail and then you wait, and then he runs by and then he's not listening because they're locked in the cross-country. Right. So fun, but also not fun at all. At least you get to be outdoors. The benefit is you get to do this after you, you know, your whole life. If you run, you run your whole life. So that's learning, yeah. Learning good stuff. I asked

for some input here at my from my friend Megan who was a long distance Olympic hopeful actually for 2020. So she's nice. The meets are typically further away at some random park or in the middle of the woods or sometimes on a golf course. But again, it's a 20 minute race so you can realistically be back home by noon. And then she said, this is what really got me said, you would love being across country dad though because the night before you get to have pasta parties so you could eat

all the carbs, which is right up your alley. She's right. Yes. It is a, oh, that sounds amazing.

Yeah. So it's across country too. Should I put it higher? I guess we'll say, I don't know. We'll say, oh, see what we're putting everything else. Next one's rowing number 14. It's so douchey. It's so East Coast Prep douchey. You didn't need to put this in, but God. Listen, it's first of all, college scholarships available. You get to be an awesome shape. You don't necessarily have to be super coordinated or a great athlete. You just kind of have to be strong and have discipline, right?

So if you're like one of those, like you've a strong body, but you're, you know, if you're playing

“basketball, you're a mess, but rowing maybe, you know, the downside you have to get up crazy early.”

I think this might be the earliest other than figure skating. The kids who wrote and caught, we had a rowing team in early cross. We'd not have us understood it. It's like, why are you doing this to yourself? This is the worst thing ever. I can't go out on Saturday night because I have a meat on Sunday, and the meat is seven in the morning hours. It really ruins your life. It is kind of a fun parent sport, though. If your kid gets good, you get to go to these, you know, you can see it in like

Oxford Blues or some of these movies that they made with the crew. You get to go to your spot, kind of hang out, like head of the chart. This is a big thing in Boston, but the morning schedule just sounds like a fucking nightmare. Well, I think you put it too high. You're going to hear from the Winkle-Vost Winds here. Good luck. I'm all here for both of them. Number 13 track and field, which is the, I think the hardest one to figure out on the whole list because you had the scholarship

especially it's a bigger stadium. You don't even know where to go and what you're looking at.

And it really depends on the event. Like, I think if your kid's a pollvoltaer, pretty cool. Right. You can kind of get near the pollvoltaer, but the running steps a little harder, but but it's the same thing we talked about earlier with the meats and just not knowing when the times were for things. My buddy, you know, on the part like kid coaches now, girls track after decades of coaching, real sports, like football, baseball, and wrestling. But he's like,

it's easy to coach. But I will say, he's like, from a parent's perspective, there's a lot of warming up. You'll see these kids warm up. And whatever event it is, they will be like 80% of warm-ups before they get to the act race. And then you can't like even the lineage, which is, which is which. So that's a negative, I would say. Right. If you

“have like a 9 AM race, you're there in an hour and a half further, because you have to hold”

warm-up thing. Check if it feels fun, because there's a lot of different aspects and places to push your kid. And it is a good college scholarship sport potentially. So there's some benefit there.

We're getting, now we're in the top 12. I've hockey 12. So basically, all the same physical

fears that you would have with football. You know, hockey has so much concussions and people getting hurt. And I honestly, it's just body's colliding. The ice ranked times are truly horrific unless you're living in like a cold place. If you're in a cold place, maybe better. If you're in Canada, obviously. If you're in Minnesota, if you're in, I don't know, Wisconsin. There's a reason all of the best squares are all coming from the same

few states. Parent culture is insane. Yeah. I don't know if this is a craziest parent sport,

“but it's gotta be top three, right? This is the one like this is the most likely if you're on”

the Twitter for you or Instagram to see like parents fighting, probably like just people just

punch each other for no reason at a hockey thing. And I'm going through the glass. Yeah, there's some crazy crazy clips on there about parents fighting. You, it's the ranks are bended hockey for two years and he was too late because this is another problem with hockey. You have to start skating about the time you're like four. To actually be good at, he started probably, but he, he would have then get it hockey. And it was fun to go there, but the ranks are freezing. Like they're just

like, and they're not big ranks either. So you're wearing like winter coats and, you know, isn't that what out here? The ranks are freezing. The ranks are freezing. Yeah, hockey ranks are freezing. It is really fun to watch. I think it's like a king's game or thought because it's, they're smaller ranks. They're not like, okay. You know, the games themselves are super fun. So that's why I, I have it ahead of football. I'm sorry. I have it below football. I have football,

I had a football because I, what you mentioned about Friday and a football. I think is the differentiator,

“but for the most part, I think these things are pretty even. Equipment, um, pricey, right?”

Depending on what you want to do with the hockey kind of thing. This is among the most expensive. Yes, sticks, um, privates. It's a, it's a commitment. This is, if your kid plays hockey, probably not on, probably not doing two other sports, right? Right. This is year-round. You're doing this all the time. If you get good at it, you're, you're away every weekend. There is some major, not skate for four months. Yeah. You have to kind of keep it going. Whereas football is like three

months. It's more contained. You do have like the long preseason in football. So that would be them. But I have football 11. I have hockey 12. All right. 11. I have football 11. Yeah. Wow. So many pluses and minuses sell. This is sad for me. I love football. But I think football would flag football could move up the ranks as we do the movement to more of a hybrid model. But I would say parent culture. Pretty bad. Is there a position for every kind of kid with a body

type? 100%. If you're like the big giant kid, you can be our left guard or, you know, if you're slow, but you're a good athlete. Hey, you could be the center or you could be the, the, the defense event. Um, but the physical toll of football is, it's a hard one. I'm just looking at all these sports you're going to put ahead of football. It makes me sad. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'm about this for a positive for the most part, a no cut sport. Everybody makes it. Yeah.

When do you think tackle football should actually start for kids? Because the, I've heard every sort of analysis of this. Because you could argue it should be like fourth fifth grade

because you learn how to tackle, you lose, you learn like, you know, basically the technique

in your body learns how to, it gets conditioned to the collisions. Whereas if you do it a little when you're older, it doesn't. But then you have 10 year olds just ramming into each other.

“I think you could bump it up to 9th, 10th grade. It's the great Tony Romo. It's going to be hard”

by the ring or soon. Uh, said to me, I think it could be. I think 9th or 10th grade is fine. I don't know. Because I do think like, you know, they, they talk about CT and all this stuff. Most of it happens in these practices. It really does. I remember getting my bell wrong a bunch of times between 10th and 10th grade. And then if you're in college, you know, whatever. It's only hit in the pros actually where you're not going home at the

home, but in practice at least. So you definitely want to keep a, what they call them in wrestling bumps. Yeah. You want to keep that bump to hold down under a thousand. You can tell me 10th grade is the cutoff. If we had a sports R, the sports R probably say you can't play football to your 16. Right. Tackle football. All right. Number 10, skiing slash snowboarding.

Now super expensive. I'm not sure about the team dynamic. Um, and you basically have to

live near a mountain or close to something. Something where you can do it or you can't do it. So I'm just assuming that's for all of those people. But it does seem pretty great. I have uh, one of my cousins has a daughter as a big snowboarder and they have to, they're in the wingle and they have to, you know, drive two, three hours sometimes to go to these things. But they they do love it. Um, injury potential. Yeah. You could wipe out every once in a while.

The big thing with skiing and snowboarding. This is something you can literally do your entire life. Right. Right. Um, and there's like tournaments and, you know, there's could, could they, they keep adding Olympic sports like who knows. Um, there's some college stuff with their team dynamics little weird. But I think for the most part, this is pretty solid. Harrison's friends with a kid who is excels at skiing, snowboarding, surfing and okay at

other sports. But that's it. And so now he's got Instagram clubs of himself like take, you know, riding a pipeline and everything and just not enough and to answer your question like earlier, like which ones do you wish you would have done? God, it would be great to just be a world-class skier. Right. It's just been doing it since you were five. Yeah, for sure. I mean, the boxing is not on the list. That's, that's, that's probably my pick. Weekends and vacations constantly.

Yeah. So skiing, snowboarding, I guess surfing would be in this too. These are all like the

“individual where you need some sort of either a wave or a mountain you need to”

put all of us together. Okay. No, something. Yeah. Number nine. I was surprised to rank this side. Waterpuller. Um, college scholarship potential galore. Kind of, your kids, everybody who's doing it is an awesome shape. Kind of underrated as a sport to watch in person. It's weird that it has no traction at all TV, although with ESPN the way they've been adding weird sports to ESPN one and two. Maybe waterpuller will have a moment.

The biggest, I think parent-demared is there's a lot going on that you just don't know when you're watching. Like they're stuff going underwater. There's people punching each other. It's sometimes it's hard to see if somebody's scored and there's no juice at all with waterpuller. Waterpuller almost needs like better PR. Well, and it's weird because it's, it's a lot. It's a lively gym, right? Yeah. They go to the parents or go nuts after everything.

Even if it's just a passing ball around the perimeter. But yeah, you're right. It needs a better PR team. Because it's fun and Olympics. It's one of my favorites to watch. Yeah, at Ben's school, sometimes like picking them up, they would have a game and the parents are going fucking crazy. And it's packed. You know, his goal had a good waterpuller team. But I can't believe this house thing.

This is amazing. Joe House, waterpuller. By the way, anybody who can produce video footage of Joe

House playing waterpuller at any point in his life, there's a bounty for you. Okay. Number eight.

“Did he eat while he played? Maybe that was a problem. I think that's why he had to”

quit because he kept taking pizza up to the pool. He didn't say he was good, chlorinated. Yeah. All right. Number eight. Baseball slash softball. Okay. Destroy as your weekends. This is a week and destroyer. I would say a pretty unarguably bad parent culture. Because it's really one of the

And Oda also inappropriate comments with with the kids. How does he not bump there?

You know, it's like that kid's eight. Like shut the fuck up. The mercy rule stuff and the blowouts, like going to a tournament and just being like we're going to lose every game by 15 runs

“is awful. And I think the highest level of parents talking to other asses. If you're good,”

there's a whole bunch of privates gets expensive. It can carry over to adult softball. Right. If you're good at, let's say you played at a high level softball baseball in high school maybe in the college. You now become a ringer in the office softball for like 20 years. You could also play in adult leagues when you're older. So you can kind of keep going. But I think this is

around the right level. Number eight. Would you agree with this? Yeah. I mean, there's just so many

pros and cons. It's what type of what you want to land on it. But I will say the parent thing is so important because you're going to have to eat with these people. And I'm lucky enough to be part of a group that we all like each other. So it's good because you're going to have a 12 o'clock game and then a four o'clock game. And then so from two to three, you're going to have to eat and watch games with these people at the local sports bar. So that's important. But parents in general,

baseball parents, it's funny. You talk to coaches and like, yeah, I only got into coaching. So I could be away from the parents. There's a reason there behind the cage. Right animals. And I think it's gotten worse. And this is probably true for every sport. But I feel like with baseball, every ten coach of a ten-year team could start the season saying, hey, you know what?

“No kid from wherever you're from has ever made it to become a pro. So that's why we're just”

going to go out there and have fun. We're not going to worry about being serious. But now days, you can't say that because there's NIL money. And everybody thinks like this is what coaching and teaching is different. Like it used to be in the same sphere. But no one thinks their kid is going to grow up to be an astrophysicist. But everyone thinks their kid can make 100 grand playing a sport, somehow if they if they play their cards right. And that's why it's gotten worse. It's a great plan.

You know what I'll say? It's the worst sport for this. Oh Bobby's up. And all the sudden you got mom or dad be, you know, right behind, right behind the the big cage in front of home plate or behind two in the fence. Yeah, a little ginger. So they're right in there. Or the kids pitching. And now the kids pitching in there is his mom, like with the with the phone like this. And it has the most phone damage potential.

“The softball. I think would have been higher in the list before they had to put all this”

protective like having these crazy helmets and stuff. And even like the third baseman and the

mass. And that is much fun as it was 20 years ago. Yeah, our buddy got some some college softball when he was at Rollins. Did he really? Yeah. Yeah. Back in the old day before they had all the stuff on. But yeah, I think it's baseball softball. Fun part is everyone can play. You can hide even the worst kids for a couple of things and put them in a couple of positions. Everybody can be part of the team. There's some fun. I don't know what you're going to end on here. This is

interesting to me that there's seven. Yeah, better than baseball football and all these. Okay. Number seven tennis. Okay. There's wins everywhere, especially you get to do it your whole life. You get to do it with your kid. You can just go and be like, hey, let's go hit some balls and go do it. You can play it anywhere. I think as long as it's not winter and some of the East Coast or the Midwest, you can put it's a 12 month in California. It's a 12 month years sport. You don't necessarily

have to belong to tennis club. You can play in public parks. The rackets are expensive. You got to keep changing those incredibly fun to watch as a parent. Scholarship potential and pro potential and NIO potential and the downsides would be the privates, which you're going to have to do if the kid's going to be good and then a little lonely. It was why with with our daughter, like I kept wondering whether we should get her involved in tennis when she was like eight nine because she

would have been good at it. But it's just kind of by yourself a lot, right? You're not really part of the team and it's a lot of like pressure on yourself at all times and some kids can handle it some camp. But for the most part, you get to be outdoors, play it anywhere. You can play it until you're 75. Right. And the pressure on the parents thing is the what we talked about. You can't play anyone else at their looser, right? No, that's a double. In the doubles match, that's where you can

play the partner. And by the way, doubles is another great one. You play mixed doubles, play same

one. That's one of the, that's the first one that I would really strongly recommend. Do you think

are you going to lump tennis with pickleball like you did? No, like you do football with flag football. No, just in that we don't acknowledge pickleball or pedell, tennis isn't going away, but pickleball is very, very big. So you think there's going to be like high school pickleball something. Thanks so. I might move. That might be for me to move too. I don't know. We've somewhere else with to Italy. Italy, live it too. No, that don't move from there. Yeah, hey.

Number six, field hockey. I don't know shit about this. All right. Yeah, this is why it's number six. Under the radar, it's really females only in credible scholarship potential and super fun to watch. And okay, some, some states are bigger than others, but man, if you're good at field hockey, the world is your oyster with some of this stuff, you get to run around.

“It's very similar to soccer, soccer, soccer, soccer, these big sticks. You have to be a”

little aggro. When I was at the Olympics, I actually went to a couple of field hockey games that

him was like incredibly fun, really high level. And always kind of slips under the radar.

Some people don't have them soccer, lacrosse and soccer next, but you can't lift your stick, right, basically. And I guess polo. You've been to over a little bit. You got to like, God, stand up, demonstrate. Yes. So I feel like he's six. Now we're in the top five. Basketball five. Basketball can play your whole life. Basketball, if it's a tournament, it passes the parent test of I can sneak out. Oh, his next game's not until an hour from now.

You're there all day, but it's actually fun to watch basketball. There's different types of players. Your kid can be, you know, a three-point shooter. Being an athlete, shot blocker, like pick whatever. Good team culture. The AAU, if your kid's really good, that gets a little weird.

The club team start really early. The club team start at like, third, fourth grade, and that

gets a little expensive. But for the most part, the only expenses are a basketball and sneakers. Sure. And that's it. Very exciting. You know, when your kid's playing for the most part, right? The game, the one thing we didn't mention, somebody's baseball games can go four hours, right? If they're in a tournament, they have to go extra innings and stuff. Basketball, I know, can go over time, but for the most part, it's going to be short and it's going to be by the

standards of the clock. So I have that for our final three. It's a huge piece to know the actual schedule and have a sense for beginning middle and end of an event versus baseball, where you could tell me like Harrison at a four hour game, we went into the 12th inning. We had to call the game because it was dark. And then they lost. Right. What's interesting, though, about basketball is if you look at videos of parents fighting by a mile, basketball has more, right? Like basketball

“broad. Why is they just getting more basketball? That's why we have more of this. Maybe those that,”

oh, there's baseball has a lot of parents, like a misbehaving, but maybe it's not parents. Maybe it's just like rival schools in the crowd that I'm seeing. But basketball from a parent standpoint, you get to play with your kids basically from age seven on the black horse with them. You play 21. You get a shooting contest with them. Then when you get older, you can actually like really play them. You can they can go down a park, play with their friends, play five on five,

play pick up. There's some injury stuff with basketball, mostly knees and lower half of the body. The club teams, you can, so if you're good at basketball on high school, you can be at a club team, but then you also get to play for your high school. And I would say that's one of the most high, high profile high school sports to play, right? So that's a win. So I think it's so come here. There's five starting spots though. That's that's true problem, right? So that's it. You can,

“and you need to be relatively tall, right? That's another piece. What's the acceptable age? Your”

kid could beat you one in one, one on one in basketball. Oh man. 10 to 11, one by two. 14, 15, probably is when it comes. Yeah, I think that's good. Yeah, stuff like you can bully. All right. It's 11 and a half wasn't good for me. I got you. Coming in at number four, golf. One downside and one downside only insanely expensive. I mean, probably the most expensive of all these sports. There's literally no other downside. If you play

and this becomes your thing. Your kid will eventually be good at it. By the way, a lot of college scholarship potential who knows what other kind of potential, but then they're doing it for the

rest of their lives. And it's something that's helpful. You know, it's why I always think about

that I should start playing. I was getting invited to play, but I'm always, I'm one of those. I either have to play a lot or I don't want to play it all. And there's so many fun social aspects that

“come from golf, there's work stuff. And it's the only downside is the expensive. You need to be outdoors,”

to play all these different courses, get to go when you're older, you get to go on college trips with your buddies or whatever. It's like it's wins everywhere except for the expenses. Yep. And it's bucket list type destinations, right? I want to play Pebble Beach. I want to play this when I'm older and all that stuff. I'll say this, we came back from Cooper's Town, and I think like kid,

we had a good time, and I'll get into that that's story. But when you see the teams that make the

finals, I think it was an eye opener, and he's like, oh, I got a couple of years left of me in baseball, and that's it. He played 18 holes the last three days, three at the last four days of golf. He's like now switching the golf a little bit because he and his buddies like love it. That's great. It's also the perfect age to start playing. You got to be like 11, 12, 13. Yeah. And then you can kind of figure out a semblance of a swing and golf balls are expensive. Not crazy expensive, but that's

“a price. Clubs, if you have a kid, you start playing them when they're sex. You have to buy”

clubs basically every year and a half, two years. So there's it's insanely expensive compared to some of these other ones, but no other downside, no injury stuff at all, except for maybe a back. Right, back, maybe hips. It's a bad end. Right. Lightning strikes. Yeah, every other time. I mean, our age in James, baby doll, Dixon, who's now 64. Yeah, smokes two packs a day and can still play

seven days a week. Yeah, but he always has his elbows hanging off his arm or something, right?

Yeah, true. He does. I hope like a rotator cuff. I guess that would be interesting. Good one for phone calls. If you're following a kid, like if your kids in internment, you just get to walk the course with them. You're outside. You can pop away for a phone call, go behind a tree, places to go for the bathroom all over the place, golf, some huge win and not for everybody because it's really expensive. Coming in third. So this is an interesting one. I've looked cross at three.

“I think if it was men's lacrosse only, I would have been in the 10 to 12 range with football”

hockey because of of all the physical toll and the concussions. This is like the most underrated concussion sport of all the sports. Girls lacrosse might be number one if we were just doing a boys versus girls thing. No contact really at all. Same as soccer, less people playing it. There's an easier path for college scholarships. Now it's on ESPN where they have women's lacrosse on ESPN. And it's weird because with girls, you just not allowed to touch each other all the way

through high school. You don't allowed to collide anything. And I remember we took Zoe once because I thought Zoe would be good at lacrosse and she would have been. But you go and it's just no, people are just running around. It's like, now this person is a ball and nobody can do anything. And they're just kind of trying to whack at the stick. So it's a little odd. There's also like some places just don't have it. Like California has a really weak lacrosse scene. Yeah definitely.

Whereas like beer in the East Coast where you grew up like it's fucking everywhere. If you're in DC, Philly, Jersey, New York. But I think girls lacrosse is, I would highly recommend that. Really a lot of places. That's a flag football version of football. Yeah. Yeah. I would say flag football for boys and some girls played football too, but girls lacrosse will be the other one. Right. Um, I don't know anybody who's daughter played the cross is like that

sucked. Right. Don't do it. Yeah. Okay. And then the final two, I'll do an alphabetical order, soccer and volleyball, I have to gather. And incredibly fun to watch. Everyone can understand time-controlled games. Um, lots of scholarships available because the teams are long so you have that possibility. You have the NIO possibility. Um, soccer is outdoors, volleyball is indoors. volleyball less injury potential. You'll get some shoulder stuff. Um, maybe somebody will have like,

uh, you know, planter for shyness. Soccer is like, if you're, oh, high-end woman soccer player, it's 40 to 50% chance you're hurting your knee or some other stuff. I think I would give volleyball

Harrel, the mid 90s, volleyball is my favorite one of all the sports. You could follow it. You know,

it's, it resets, you know, every set. Um, you always know what's going on. You can't be like a

know at all with volleyball. I'm like, oh, I can't believe the center. Like, nobody, nobody knows what's going on. You're just they're cheering. And uh, and you can play it after as an adult or you can

“play beach volleyball. So I think volleyball is one in soccer too. Beach volleyball, by the way,”

for a parent might be the best experience actually to just hang up on the beach and watch a kid. I know, it's like a niche thing, but uh, niche thing, but it's out out. Yeah, out here, out west, volleyball is a prestigious, if you have a position on the high school team, that's a prestigious way to go. Yeah, obviously all the Olympians are from out here. So yeah, it's good. And so you wouldn't put soccer interesting. And I think volleyball because of if you include the beach volleyball in the rate of

concussion thing for soccer, right? So that's, it's not underrated. I think at this point, people now, like, you know, especially when you're talking about collisions with uh, goalies and strikers or two people going for a head and they bang heads, like it's uh, you know, it's been my biggest fear ever since like probably age 11. Once people start going airborne, you're just scared about it. The other underrated one is you can just get kicked by the ball. Like somebody can be clearing

out the ball and kick it, you know, realize and it just hits the back of your head. I've seen a few

“of those. It's definitely concussions. That's that's another thing volleyball versus soccer. I think”

volleyball, I guess you can get a concussion if you just got took a spike in the head. Yeah. But other than that, no. Um, and then volleyball, all different types of body types too, because you can have the setters or smaller. The other ones are, you know, the, the people at the net are taller. Yeah. Everybody's tall. The set. There's small people and volleyball. Yeah. Small, yeah. The setters, right? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But they could take

the setters out. The soccer, um, the hell was I going to say. Yeah. It's interesting with the soccer with the, because I think if you go, we're mostly talking here at 13 to 18 or whatever. But if you go,

it's the first sport they all play, right? So soccer. From four to ten, four to ten, it's number one,

no matter what. It's got to be. I hate to say that as a baseball jump. But it just is because your kid gets to play your kids involved running around. Kids aren't making sand castles and left field, you know. So I think there's a, there's something to add as a positive. You just see your great shape from soccer. The tournaments, even though it's a long, whatever, and you go to these, and I've been a bunch of them. You're at these locations where there's 30 fields. You got to figure

out where the field is. But for the most part, pretty easy to navigate. You're going to have two games a day. They're usually not staggered where it's like one games at nine and the other ones at six. They're usually within like four or five hours of each other. So you have time to kind of relax, but you also fun to just watch other soccer games that are happening, which I think volleyball is the same thing. If it's in one of those places with a lot of games, you can kind of jump around

and watch. But I think that concussion piece is outweighs the fact that your outdoors was soccer.

“But I think these are the best, too. You might be right. The one, the, where you, you have to drive”

past 50 soccer fields to get to your tournament. Right. I was away. You have to drive past 50 baseball time and it's like, oh, we could have played this team, nor walk 20 minutes away. But by the way, that should be your number one concern for someone who doesn't wear a seat belt should be how close the venue is. Now, I'm wearing a seat belt in there. Everybody's shaming. One of the reasons something I forgot about. I remember like 20 years ago, and I just completely forgot. I thought

you came to your senses. You know, you, you, you have to wear it. One of the reasons I wanted to talk about it with wilds is because I know I'd be publicly shamed for nothing. I see book I, and I needed to, I needed to really have the shame. That's what I heard from so many people. Well, most of the time, I'm just driving around LA on 25 miles an hour. I get it. And I know you're confident

and how I'm going to drive a U. I'm an amazing driver. Everyone else has become a terrible driver.

Everyone else is looking at their phone. Doesn't that scare you that they're okay? I'm not wearing a seat belt and everyone's staring at their phone while they're trying to pass me. That's true. Yeah, I'm going to start wearing it. I needed, I had my whole process. I needed to say that to wilds. I know that people get mad. All right. We took 55 years. All right. I'm going to count count down backwards. 21. 20 figure skating. Sorry to all the skaters out there.

19 gymnastics, swimming, wrestling, cycling, cross country together, rowing, track and field, hockey, football, skiing, snowboarding, surfing, all at number 10. Water, polo, baseball,

volleyball, first. What's going to be the most controversial? Again, this is for parents.

“Yeah, I think like you're going to hear from like figure skating. The older ones you put”

2019, they're going to get mad at you. I personally would have moved football up a little bit just because I feel like the juice behind the Friday night stuff is just, it takes it to a different level. And this is going to sound ridiculous coming from me because I use everyone to be in an NBA hole. But I think basketball is one or two. Really? Yeah. I do. If you could start over right now in Harrison and only have them play one sport from age five, which sport would you pick?

I think it would be golf. If the solo sport it would be golf at this point because he's already upset with himself that he's behind his friend who's excellent hits the green off off of every

day on a part three, I would have done lacrosse for Zoe. He would have done lacrosse. Yeah.

Yeah. But the soccer was great. Yeah. But the cross lacrosse, I think lacrosse was for girls like you removing some of the injury rest that makes soccer a little, a little

“iffy. Anyway, I hope that help. Listen, again, that was good. Just my opinion only. It doesn't”

mean I'm right. You could disagree. I don't these aren't authoritative rankings. People could disagree with. Yeah. People can absolutely disagree with these. Before we go do a pair of corner for us. Well, let me tell you a little bit about Cooper Sound. We just got back. I thought it was the greatest. I mean, I can't say enough about it. It was like the culmination of like eight years of little league. Yeah. And then you get to Cooper Sound. It's beautifully manicured

fields. The amount of like Americana thrown at you is like perfect. They have the opening ceremonies with a team's march out and they had like a kid who an actual little league or was participating and they hadn't seen his father who was deployed overseas and then the father shows up. So very emotional. They had that knocked out. And the kids bunk together and you don't see them except for 20 minutes before and after every game. And then you have a few hours to hit the

“museum, which is fantastic. And you can hate it because of who's in and who's not. But”

there's plenty of Pete Rose. There's plenty of Barry Bond stuff. Giant exhibits. Just no plaque. So I'm sure promise it was enjoyable. But for my parent corner story, so Harrison's team goes up there and he only wants to hit a home run. That's his whole summer goal because the fence is a Cooper Sound or 200. And he's used to like 225, 230. Yeah. They like having home run Derby's heinous friends on the local fields and everything.

And so we get to playing and we're blood. We have five pool games and we're blowing teams out. And three days we have five pool games and we mercy rule four of the five teams. But as we're beating these teams, he's not hitting home runs. And his buddies are all hitting home runs. Now it's like one of four kids who haven't hit home run. And you know, he's coming back after we greet their kids after they come out after like a 15 to two win. He's like choking back

tears because the other boys are posing with their home runs. And the father's chase the home run balls. And so that everybody can pose. And I'm like, hey, get it together. Like he's getting singles, he's pitching. Wow. He's making plays in the field. I'm like, come on, what are you doing? So you're winning player. Your war is good. Exactly. But the only negatives are hitting the home run becomes a priority. And also these collectible pins. So they trade these pins with

other teams. Everybody has a pin represented for their teams. And they trade with everybody else's teams and the barracks. And the Jalen Bronson pin, he's one of the few he has no negotiating skills. So no New York aggression in the kids. So he ironically can't get a hold of this Jalen Bronson pin. So no Jalen Bronson pin hasn't hit a home run. So fast forward, we win all five full games. We're ranked six out of 102 teams. I'm like, oh man, we could really make a run here.

Wow. We win the round of 32 game by 10 runs. Round the 16, we're up five one in the last inning. We'd make four errors over three days. We'd make five errors in the last inning. And they tie it up. And Harrison's one of the worst one. He boots like a hard hit ball to third just to start the rally. And everyone's devastated. Like I want to go freaking hide

behind the P. We re-s exhibit and never come out. So I don't. So it's the bottom of the inning.

There's two out and a kid gets a single. And they pinch run Harrison. He's one of the faster kids on the team. I'm like, okay, this could be he could inadvertently score the winning run. This could be nice. Whatever. We'll put a smile on his face maybe after this whole thing. First pitch comes in. He takes off. And I see he doesn't have like a great jump. And I'm just watching him like, oh shit, this could be close. He gets the second.

He beats the throw by six feet. He doesn't overslide the base. The jump calls him out.

what the what? What are you kidding? I'm like, what are you looking at? What are you doing? I'm like, I'm mad at my coach because he's not arguing. And Harrison's got his arms in the air. And everyone's like, oh my god, what happened? And I'm like screaming. I don't even know what I was like in a different dimension. I didn't even know what I was screaming. Yeah. Yeah. And that was it. And then like after like good 20 Mississippi of worth of screaming, one of the father's elbows

me is like, take their column batters and interference. And I look at the batter because I hadn't watched. I was just watching the run. But little dean is in the catchers lap. So somehow he's

“like over swung and ended up in the catcher. And that's why the throat didn't get them like, oh no.”

And meanwhile, you've mean, you've said, yeah, 17 horrible things to show showed my hand. Like, like, I should be they should just put me in a white jacket and sit me up. Like, that's ridiculous. Like, so that was, you're the baseball parents. We were talking about earlier. It's you. It's me the whole time. And then we lose by like eight runs and extra innings. And that was that.

Some some poor second base up from Utica who's making $10 a game. Just didn't break it because the

South nothing is like an army vent who's doing it for free. Oh, God. So that's it. So he didn't get this deal. You guys lost in Harrison. Didn't get his home around over the J. L. Brunsipin. No home run. No J. L. Brunsipin. And that's it. So otherwise fantastic experience. Wow. Did he come close to a home run? Uh, no, not really. I mean, it's so funny because you end up playing different kind of baseball. It's not like a move to run or over and do this. Like, everyone's just jacking

“it for the fence. But he got like five singles and whatever. But it was good. Sounds like majorly baseball.”

That's right. All right. Well, I'm sorry. Didn't get a home run. Thanks for thanks for doing the use sport rankings with me. This is fun. You can't. I can't. I want to hear. I got to hear the feedback. I really. I can't wait. I'm ready for it. Look, man. Sometimes you got to go out and live with content and not everybody's going to like it. We're going to be back together

August 27th Thursday. We're going to do and we can do NFC first or AFC first. Whatever you want,

man. We usually do we do awards too. And then do we do a thing? We're going to save the awards futures to the because we're doing it in a week early this year so we can save stuff for the Sunday before. We usually do the conference that had the Super Bowl champ. So I guess we do which one was that? I wasn't paying attention. Oh, that was the NFC. But I've appreciated you doing the divisions with Raheem and DeBundo and House and not really tipping your hand this year,

which is something I'm doing as well. Just sitting at the table for them. They're doing a great job. Listen to that. We did the AFC. He's preview. We did the AFC north on Monday and we'll be doing the south on Friday. Yeah, last year I felt like I did all these pods and August laying out all my opinions for the year. And then when we did our AFC NFC, everyone kind of knew who listens to the pod. He's talked about Denver four times. He loves Denver. Yeah. So I'm really trying to keep

everything under wraps this year because I have some hard opinions and a couple things. But I mean, I do too. It's like down the lines. I mean, not because people are such that. I mean, even our ringer wise guys, like really want to talk week one lines. But guys, I can't do it. I mean, we're four weeks away now. Should we mail each other lines and then have like a point and a half leeway with the line or something?

Maybe we should. I mean, I told you I already saw this. Yeah. I don't know England unfortunately. So I know what that is. Yeah. Patrons getting 10, right? Yeah. Well, 10, 10. Well, it's weird that it's the exact same line as the Super Bowl, which I was not expecting because usually there's a bump for the home team, but yeah, we might have to have maybe this weekend. We have to mail each other. The Hall of Fame game seven plus million people watch. I know. And it was the most bet on game

more than like any baseball WNBA. I can't believe that. I lost. I had a teaser. And I lost. The teaser and you lost it. There's 32 points. I bet the under on the teaser. Of course,

“you have to bet the under. What are they going to show? And there was like 32 points in the second”

quarter. I've been watching enough to be able to have actual opinions on when we get to the playoffs. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I've been watching. I've actually been getting into the leagues. The best entertainment wise that's ever been. I'm not talking about this. I'm going to make it

to the playoffs. But I never walk out before the playoffs. It's like the fever beat the shit

out of New York last night. And Anna, I texted Ruko and he actually said it on the air because Ruko was doing the thing. I was like, this is like watching Nash's sons. Like Indiana's like they're just balls to the wall. Like every time they get a rebound, even off makes, they're just going and they have these two great guards. And they're like, really good. I don't, I think you can make a

anybody else. But houses, mystics are getting a little frisky. Yeah. I'm running on the links. I

seemed to bet them every night when they're favored by 12 on the money line, partly with the budget. Yeah. If you like the links at home, just do the over with the links. But they're playing

“really well, though. I think it's going to be a fun playoff. That will, of course, be screwed up”

schedule wise as they try to go against football for some reason. And then I'll end up watching

all this and then missing the key game of the finals because I'm watching fucking Cincinnati against Dallas. Love it. That was a ball as your number five on that level. By the way, speaking of Dallas, yeah, some cowboys buzz. Like, I think they're going to be some smart people who are going

to pick them to win NSC. Yeah, some dumb people too, probably. But yeah, knockstar, they're training

with the rams. And then at the end, they're doing wind sprints. And they're like, come on, let's do them with us. And the rams like, nah, we're good. We're better than you. We don't need to do this. I kind of lie. I like the vibe a little bit. They have some blue chippers.

“Seems pretty good to be amazing. I mean, where's the support? It's an LA this year, right?”

Yeah, it's here. One of the leaders will sell it to the podcast from there. We're going to have to do the last one from there. You know, we talked about, I think we might actually do our Super Bowl podcast from from so far. I think they offered it to us. Yeah, we got to do that. Good times. I don't mean it. All right, so great to see you. Thanks for doing this with me. I'll let you know

“what the feedback is, or if I get threatened by any gymnastics parents or anything. Pleasure is always”

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