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Andrew Egger: Trump’s Travels with Natalie

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Thanks to a shrewdly-timed Jon Ossoff campaign event, a lot more people are suddenly learning about young and blonde Trump confidante Natalie Harp AKA ‘the human printer’—and one of only three aides w...

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one working the hardest and most diligently this summer. Now, the rest of us gal event about. So finally, he gets a break. And sitting in for him is our very own White House correspondent

and his co-author on the Morning Shots newsletter. It's Sweet Andrew Eggher. How you doing, Andrew?

I'm great. How are you, Tim? How do I'm pretty good? I'm pretty good. It's good to be back in New Orleans. It's good to be termite less in the home. And, you know, we're just pressing forward. We've got a lot to talk about today. You have some bad takes that I hope we have time to get to the very, yes. Do you have a couple of good, even a couple of things you've been really excited

about and angered about, right, justly, that I've not talked about on the podcast at all. So I do want to get to those as well. But I want to start on the corruption beat a couple

of things that really caught my eye over the weekend and late last week. The first one

is this Trump crypto bank story. This might seem niche, but I just think that it is the most tangible example of the administration's corruption. And I feel like in the year, I don't know, 2034, when we're looking back on this, I feel like this and the internment camps are going to be the things that we look back on. I mean, who knows what horrors are had of us between now and then? But like, from the period of 2024 to 2026, like the internment

camps and this, I'm going to stand out. Does that feel right to you before I get into the details of the story? Like, don't you think there's so much we don't know on the corruption side

of us? Yes, 100%. I think that's right. I mean, you say like the, it seems niche, but like

all businesses are sort of niche, right? I mean, the whole point is that like he is going into these quote unquote niche industries where there's still billions and billions of dollars to be made. And he's getting his beak wet on the powers of the presidency and the access that that is involved with that. So yes, I 100% agree that the broad overarching corruption story is going to be a major major part of the legacy of these years. So here, here it is on the banks of world liberty,

financial, which is the like Trump and we's main crypto venture. They have several side ventures in crypto. They have received preliminary conditional approval from the office of the controller of the currency to become a bank. Now, I'm sure we have, you know, really people of high integrity at the office of the control of the entire of the currency and the Trump administration. A lot of people of deep expertise and no conflicts at all. This, what this means is the

approval means that world liberty will be able to issue redeem and safeguard USD1. They're dollar back stable coin. Jeff Stein, he's through the Washington Post now into notice. We'll translate that for for people who are not, you know, into crypto world. He writes this a Trump appointee is approved. Trump's personal crypto firm to operate as a bank. This means corporations can conduct transactions using the stable coin where the Trump family gets a cut. The public will not have

to be informed. There's no precedent for this to go to this way. It's like the, it's kind of like the Venmo now or whatever. Where, you know, the Venmo company takes whatever 3% of the transaction fee on certain types of transactions. Now people can make transactions with the Trump coin and get a fee and then they, they just get to operate no different than whatever. If you're selling on your, on your city bank account, important to note here, Chinese born scammer and current UAE

citizen, Changpeng's House, CZ, he had purchased half of these stable coins in circulation and got a pardon for the Trump administration. The UAE and Pakistanian officials have also invested

Pakistan's negotiating the MOU, which we'll get to a second.

Yeah. Yeah. To me, this is interesting in part because Trump has already extracted enormous amounts

of value from a lot of people in and connected to the crypto industry with this exact

corporation, with world liberty financial. And this now seems to be a way to just expand the net of somewhat extortionary sort of behavior much more widely. Like the idea here is if you yourself are already like big in the crypto space, you're probably already kind of all tied up with world liberty financial. But now this is just yet another way for unrelated businesses, businesses that are not primarily crypto businesses necessarily. It's just another new place where you can

carry some level of favor with the Trump administration get, you know, for whatever business purpose that you might want. Like you might be a random, you could be any kind of corporation who might have any kind of business before the White House, one really easy way to make Donald Trump look favorably on your business will be to just conduct transactions on this platform. Instead of whatever other banking platform you might have been inclined to use. Obviously,

I'm sure there are, I'm not a financial reporter or financial analyst or anything. I'm sure there are many reasons why you might prefer a longer running, more stable sort of platform with more services on offer, more professionals in the building, all these sorts of things. But this is the, this is the offer that's being made. Is why not come transact over here, let me collect your fees and show that you're, you know, a good patriotic corporation while you're

doing it. I like the word "bribes." Because that's what's happening here. I mean, they're just

bribes happening. I mean, ZZ got a part in an exchange for purchasing these stable coins. We talked on Friday with Sarah about the thing Joe Rogan was surprised to learn that the Trump truth social is taking bribes from financial investors who want early access to Trump's tweets, so they can then bet on, you know, the reaction in the markets, just, you know, a little insider trading up in the open and like what situation that is not corrupt would make you want to bank

with world bribes. And if you just put it that way, the only point of this is like you're looking

for, you know, a vendor with which to exchange, you know, currency. Like there are million options

out there in the world. Like there is absolutely no reason that you would want to go with the company that was run by Devon Nunez that is not stable at all, right? That's, that's, are people that don't have history, you know, safeguarding money. Even if you're going to do it in crypto, even if you're nearby stable coins, like there are other options that are more professional than this, right? Like the only reason to use this is to carry faith with Trump. Yeah, no. I think that's basically

exactly right. And that is a pretty compelling reason for a lot of companies given how much of the economy right now in large part because of tariffs, but also because of different regulatory decisions and all these sorts of things, so much of the current, currently constituted economy relies on this repersonal blessing and say so of the president. So it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a pretty grizzly situation all around. Our colleague Catherine Rampell or another article, this is, this is a

story. I think it's also important to cover the stories where the Trump corruption does not just

extend to his personal wealth. I mean, like most of these stories, he is, as you, as you say, getting as big wet, but he's also looking out for white collar scammers and grifters of all types. And here's one example of it, Catherine Rampell is a university, it's newsletter last week, Treasury announced that it's going to stop the government's, excuse me, not stop, destroy the government's registry of shell company ownership. This was an anti-corruption database that Treasury

was required by law to maintain. It actually was signed in the first Trump administration, this,

this database. It was a bipartisan effort among the people pushing it were the current Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, and they're not just going to stop requiring registry. They're going to destroy all the data that it's collected already, so that no future administration or any local police apartment can use it. Tom Malanowski, former Democratic Congressman from New Jersey who was instrumental on getting this past initially said this is like Trump ordering the deletion of the FBI's entire

fingerprint database. There were some pushback, I saw it to Katherine's article on the kind of the Winnie the Pooh and the Tuxedo, right? The anti-hatchies, the Tritide, come over there, they're like, well, you know, this was, this database was a little burdened someone, some small business owners, but it's kind of like, I mean, I could see that it probably was burdened someone,

small business owners have said like, you're a real estate company and you have a million shell

companies that you're using to purchase various properties everywhere, and I'm sorry that

You have to deal with that, but for like most companies was not burdened some...

For example, we're not operating several, several shell companies, you know, it's like a 15-minute paperwork filing. So I just, I don't really see any reason, well, hey, this is illegal and it's passed into law. I kind of know why we think the Treasury Department can just veto it without having Congress veto something that was passed by Congress and signed by the President, but in addition to that,

I think that any explanation for this that is not centered around corruption leaves me a little

wanting. Yeah, and, I mean, this is one of these stories too, where just the raw overarching facts of the open corruption of the administration from top to bottom, I mean, it just, it bleeds through everything and it makes it so impossible to even tease out stories like this where, where I don't know, maybe if it were a different administration that was doing this, you know, lawfully, if they were actually pushing to overturn the law or something like that,

you might be able to put some stock in those sorts of explanations. I, again, I'm, this is not exactly

my area of expertise. I've never drilled down on the second and third order effects of the

functioning of this database, but like, you would have to be so blinkered. You would have to stick your head so deep under the sand to look at a story like this through any other light than the overarching light of the, of the, of the open corruption of the open sympathy, the weird personal sympathy that the president has for, for people accused of white color crime, where he just he just goes out there and he partens them, sort of like out of the goodness of his heart a lot of the

times. This, this, this, this just seems to be so obviously of a piece with all that sort of stuff that that maybe you can cobble together these post-tock justifications. Maybe there are some businesses out there that will be grateful that, that, that, that did, you know, really struggle with these compliance costs. But on the other hand, come on. Like, let's look at what's going to happen to you what time it is. Blinkered coverage of Trump policy from National Reviews of Coiner Andrew,

I never, I would never make that accusation. Um, all right, as referenced today, the Treaty of

Versailles II, Electric Buggaloo was signed. How many days ago now? I went every listener in their head to think about how many days ago they think it was because it is, it's hard to kind of orient yourself in time during the Second Trump administration. Okay, do you have your guess? It was 60 days ago. Today is the 60th day, which is when the MOU is set to expand. Important number, yeah.

Yeah, I believe it lasted 60 hours, maybe. But, uh, it was supposed to last 60 days. The various

elements of the memory of of understanding signed with such great fanfare was, uh, the immediate permanent termination of military operations on all fronts removal, the naval blockade, uh, completely open and, uh, D-mine, straight of four moves, Iran was going to economic reconstruction fund, uh, there'd be a deal on enrichment and nooks. No, no, no, no, nothing, none of, none of it. Yeah, we didn't get any of that. It returns out. It is kind of crazy to look back at, you know,

the, the president's tweets right at that moment. You know, the, the straight of four moves is now open to all, let the oil flow, you know, congratulations to everybody. And like even then, it was a lot of fanfare over what was essentially an agreement to agree on a bunch of things later. And yes, it did blow up on the launch pad very quickly after that. But it is just sort of, I don't know. We've been at this for quite a while now, a long, long, long time, and it just

sort of seems to keep on persisting. I was rewatching the video of my guy at a mothler serving it to Scott Jennings on CNN. This was the video for people who are sick. I was like me and

and just consuming way too much internet politics flop. You'll remember this is the time that Scott Jennings

said get your fucking hand out of my face. I'm trying to see an end. It's going to add a meltdown. And, and he was defending the war and kind of sendingly talking to muckler about how like, oh, you can't handle eight weeks. It's a forever war now because it's been eight weeks. And I just wanted that there's a deliciousness to watch it now, you know, thinking back to the like Trump fluffers spin when this MOU was happening and prior to that, J.D. Vance of Ice President

talking about how only stupid presidents in the past got us into into these wars that didn't have any resolution. And, like, here we are at the end of the MOU period with a war still on dish and nothing to show for it. And, actually, it's worse than nothing to show for it. And, like, negative consequences to our troops to consumers here in America to our alliances. If you ever roll back the tape on the various kind of moments in the early development of this conflict,

just the remarkable level of smugness at every single stage. Like, right at the very beginning,

when we were going over there, when we first launched the war, and we were, you know, we had total

aerial supremacy and domination. We were blowing up all these military targets. And you had all

Of the hawks who were like, yeah, you know, we should have done this decades ...

it's like, USA, USA, and can you believe these sort of naysayers and these wet blankets who are like,

oh gosh, like, what, what were we're with Iran all of a sudden? Was it, were we talking about this?

Well, are we sure we've really thought this one through? And then they closed the Strait of Hormuz. And, and there's all this reporting that they hadn't really thought this through. And, and again, just the smugness of, do you honestly believe that the United States government didn't contemplate the possibility that Iran would retaliate with the Strait of Hormuz? We've known they would do this if we ever did this forever. We've got them right where they, right where we want them. And then,

like, the Forever Wars have again, like we're just like four, five, six weeks into this war. And the same people are basically like, really you're at a juice already, you're at a steam already,

after these amazing victories that we've had and we've got them on the run and, you know,

what are you like some kind of subversive or like, and just over and over and over again, you get to the memorandum of understanding. And it's the same thing where it's JD Vance being like, look, I think we all need to put a little trust in the president right now, President Deals, who has landed the plane on this thing. And like again, and again, again, again, I feel like maybe I'm just looking at different sources now. I feel like a little bit of the smugness has leached away

the last couple weeks, couple weeks, maybe month or two here as it really has just turned into another one of these boom doggles with no real way out. I feel like maybe they're not leaning into it quite as much. But I have not seen a lot of, uh, uh, I don't know. I haven't seen a lot of come to Jesus moments about where, where these people were predicting this conflict was going to be at this point versus the boom doggle that we're in right now. commentary podcast guys,

they've seen some things that they don't like. I don't know if they've had a come to Jesus exactly. Come to y'all. Yeah, they, uh, I definitely have seen some, well, this didn't turn out like we'd helped guys. And I admire that. Good job, commentary people. I should be on the commentary podcast. I'm the other hand, you don't say. But okay, it's good. It's good. I mean, you know, I'm just saying, if you miss something, those very obvious, give a little less cut of much. But I agree. It's

good to acknowledge. Good to know. I'm sorry. I always, I was letting badge. If you'll get in there

for a second, you know, sometimes you have to, I still have a drag run. You have to church yesterday,

you know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to think about my better angels right now. Good for those people who are the, the few who have admitted that this thing was a total disaster from the start. One thing I've been agitating for is for Democrats to really rub the president's nose in it, you know, about how humiliating this is and how how much of an affront it is to country into the troops that you got into this stupid ass war with nothing to show for it. And, you know, the new

hotness, the man that everybody seems to be getting a thrill up their leg for lately. John Asaf, did exactly that at the campaign rally over the weekend. Let's watch a little bit of it. Something uniquely despicable about lying a nation into war, treating citizens as fools and those who serve as ponds. Abored the USS Abraham Lincoln, they've now been at sea for 240 plus days without a port call. It's a Navy record. And still, and still, and still, and still,

they serve with excellence. And still, they serve with excellence, while he fruitlessly drains our munitions and oil reserves, the president sleeps through his meetings. He gulfs and trade stocks. So he doesn't want to do the job. He wants to build his ballroom and travel with Natalie on their apparently defenseless flying palace, gifted by the Amir of Qatar. Ouch. Ouch. Thoughts. Where did all this Natalie Harp discourse come from all of a

sudden? I thought we had done like the Natalie Harp thing. The regime changed bars ago. It came from the regime change book. It was all of the mass notes. I interviewed Maggie about this. When she came in the show, when I asked her, I said that her book did something,

which I think is important and reporting it changed one of my priors. I had previously thought

that Donald Trump was now impotent because he was so old. And I thought that explained, you know, the fact that we haven't had any sex scandals with Donald Trump, his whole life was sex scandals up until now. And now the reading the book and reading all the love notes that Natalie Harp wrote to Trump started with maybe not, maybe not impotent. Yeah, I'm not. Maybe something's happening. I'm not going to touch that one. I do think there is a, you know,

things change, things change. You get a little older, maybe maybe it's not the physical thing quite so much as it is just liking to be adored by, you know, young attractive women who knows,

Who knows how it all, how it all holds together, but on the other thing, you ...

expertise on that I brought you to talk about whether when you stop wanting to grab women by the pussy against their will, that's something that Andrew doesn't have, you know, it's hard for you to kind of get your head in that brain space. And I appreciate that. So you can move on from that.

But never started it. But just as a start it, wouldn't know. But as a strategic question for us off,

and set up putting it as a question, I'm going to put it as a statement that I want you to react to. This is kind of what Sarah and I are asking for. Like, on Friday, we are talking about how we want, and there are different ways to go about this. There's ways to go about getting attention in the media about Donald Trump's horrors by being extremely outraged about something. There is, like, there is, like, actually going to places to advocate passionately,

Chris Van Hollen, for example, going to, like, meeting with Gilmar Rue, or Sarah, like, there are ways to do it. There are also ways to play this game by saying and doing things. The point out Donald Trump's offenses that titillate people that draw attention, that might get interest from, you know, people who are not, you know, reading the news day today,

but are just kind of scrolling clips on Instagram. They're kind of like, what is this?

Trump has a girl named Natalie's flight around with. It's a tactic. I think it's a smart tactic.

What do you think? Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's interesting, too, that that was such an applause line even in the room because, like, on the, on the one hand, the, all the aesthetics of us off are, are, like, sort of recreating the Obama strategy. All right, what's like these, this soaring oratory and these big rooms and, like, in theory, all of that is geared toward, like, normies and non-political obsessive, obsessive, but in terms of the content,

that it's, it's plainly a lot of people who are track and this stuff online, right? That's right. There's a lot of, like, bullwerp people in that audience are like, oh, the human printer, he went there. You know, that kind of stuff. So it's an interesting combination of things. They had somebody text me the other day, who is Natalie, the human printer. And I was like, you just revealed, you haven't been listening to my podcast.

Hey, it's never too late to learn about the human. I know it's never too late. I'm just saying

that sometimes friends reveal that they're, they're engaging with my content isn't as full sum as, as they might want me to think. Yeah, I'm, I'm grateful to us off in one level. I do not know. I just, like, as a, as a factual matter, I don't know whether this is going to be the sort of message and the sort of strategy and the sort of politician that ends up resonating with democratic primary voters and just the electorate in 2028. I can see an argument. I've seen

a lot of people make the argument that it reads as a little slick. It reads as a little bit over-produced. It's all very somber and solemn. Even the moments that are, like, a little bit of a joke. Like, he himself plays them very straight doesn't crack a smile. I can see those sorts of things doing well. And I can also see them bouncing off in our, in our more irony poison to age.

But I, but I am grateful. I, I think it's good that we have a guy who's plainly, like, pushing

this strategy as far as it can go. Like, he, he is owning it. He is a perfect fit for it. He's, like, a former documentary filmmaker himself. Like, he's, he is very suitable to this strategy and to this role into this lane that he's trying to run in. You don't want to end up in a situation where, like, Republicans were in 2024. Where it's like, oh, you know, somebody is putting together a perhaps interesting and perhaps plausible alternate narrative to Trumpism. And his name is

Ron DeSantis. And he has all these interesting good things going for him. And then it just all falls apart because you are, like, a bag of oatmeal up on the campaign stage, right? Like, it's so, it's good. I, I hope we get a lot of good and interesting sort of, like, successful, possible avenues to fight against each other in the 28 primary. Try a bunch of different things. I will say this. One of my other priors has been updated by this is, like, this is a 2028 speech. I mean, he has

running away with his Senate race. And this is not to say that he's taken as I have the ball on that up because he's been doing this. And more strategy to this for a while now. And it's obviously working. His opponent is an insane person. I did, I'll put in the show notes at a single video on Friday. I'm going to do it. I feel like there's just been so much attention on the songs and the elsaiads

of the world, the media. And I think that, like, the media is kind of bored, like, crazy Republican

story. So nobody even talks about Mike Collins, like, tweeting White Nationals, just in being the nominee for Senate and Georgia, like, not an against-wing state or Andy Biggs being the key in, like, one of the key man of the insurrection being the governor candidate in Arizona. And I saw him doing a little series on them. You could go live through a deep dive on the my college. But to me, this sort of stuff is demonstrating is modeling, like, what a 2028 campaign

could look like. And like, like, you said, whether that is the one that works or the resonates out who knows. But like, it's hard to think about with the value of bringing up Natalie Harp in the Georgia Senate race context. Right. Like, it is good for a for narrative domination,

Attention gathering.

different doing it in different ways, going about it in ways that are authentic to them,

because I think that that is important for breaking through. But it feels very 28 to me.

Yeah. And like, look, I've covered a lot of Senate campaigns. This is just not the typical, sort of aesthetics that people reach forward when they're running for Senate. It's just small. It's a smaller ball sort of thing. You want it to seem more kind of personal. You want it to seem more like you're in the room. Like, you're standing on the ground. Maybe at a podium with a bunch of people in chairs or something like that. I mean, this is a specific aesthetic that they

have been chasing. They've been chasing it for months. You know, he keeps doing events like this. They have a constant drip feed of awesoph, you know, like, like, the cheeroscaro lighting. And he's up there on stage. And the cameras, the different camera angles are cut in between the shots.

The heroes, you know, the doring. It's always a wedding night. The campaign events are always

on Friday nights. It's like you can, we can, like, share the videos on the weekend, talk about it on Monday. I cared as, you know, extended narrative.

Every word out of the office is, I don't know what you people are talking about. I'm running for

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terrible powerpoint presentations and godly zoom meetings that you've got to go through. Let me give you the street's advice. The Friday news dump is so wrong now. It is opposite. And John asks us to forget that. You want things to come out on Friday night and the new media environment because then those of us who are who don't put down our phone on the weekends, talk about it and share the stuff up with the audience. Then the Monday news shows have to

talk about it in the morning. They're good. Technically, he knows what he's doing. And just one last thing. It's a clean hit. I saw like Peter Mayer was out there like I'm tired of this in you window campaign, former kind of congressman for Michigan Republican guys on CNN a bunch and you see some of this kind of like Pearl clutching from the right. That's kind of like Trump is focused on golf in the ballroom. And it is weird that he has a human printer around

that writes him notes. And it is weird that when his playing that was a gift from the Amir from Qatar, you know, could not defend itself. He had to be taken out in a catering truck to a different plane. And the people in the truck with him were the human printer in the golf cutting. Like that strange that all that is happening while people are jumping off the USS Lincoln. Yeah, yeah. I did not think that the story of the catering truck could get any funnier with

Donald Trump back there, you know, just sort of like with the chafing dishes. But the presence of Natalie Harp and dance could be, you know, shaperone really, really does kick it up to a new level. I'm glad I'm glad we're getting these sorts of details. You know, there's a lot of narrative meat left on the bone of Trump 2.0. The couple times don't campaign. I feel like I talk about the ones that are going very well like off-off. And we talk about the ones we have concerns about.

There's this kind of doughnut hole, middle campaign, or that it's an importan...

just, and they're doing good enough that I don't talk about it. And I feel like it's on me

because things like the Ohio Senate race, the Ohio Senate race is absolutely critical. The Democrats

are going to take back the Senate. I've been talking about shared brown very little because he's just noticed the grind still and running a more typical Senate campaign like you referenced earlier, you know, more localized campaign. But he's winning in a state that Trump won three times right now. If you look at the polls and there's an interesting ad he put out this weekend going after his

opponent John Houston over tariffs. I've been doing this 25 years and it has never been this hard.

So many of these things are out of my control and they're at the whim of some bad political decisions. John Houston has voted 13 times for the war in Iran and it's had a direct effect on farmers. Diesel fuel has doubled since the last spring, cost fertilizer triple. And John Houston supports the tariffs which have driven the prices down which we can sell our crops. At a certain point it's not just politics anymore when you start taking money out of my pocket it becomes personal.

I'm sure brown and I approve this message. And it was really interesting because shared brown

has been kind of on the pro tariff protection side of the Democratic Party in his career back when he was in the Senate. And I thought that it was very stress savvy strategic move to just go for it.

Right. I do like that kind of politics. And B could there be a better encapsulation of

like how disastrous the Trump tariff policy is that even like the pro tariff Democrats you know it's from the past like the anti-free trade or the protections whatever you want to call them. Like the day feel like one of their opening ads is talking about how disastrous the tariff's have been. Yeah. Yeah. And it did take them a little while we get there. Right. Like all last year it kind of felt like released maybe not all last year. In the early part of last year when

when the tariffs were going on and like it was just insane and the bond market was going crazy. It was like is the United States going to have to economically decouple from China who knows probably doesn't seem like it should but that's the policy on paper right now as at least as of this moment. Like all through that like Democrats were a little slow to go up to the tariff stuff in part because of this because they have liked protectionist policies for at at at some level

for a long time and none more so than you know guys like Sherrod Brown at in sort of post-industrial Rust Bell, Ohio who want to see some sort of resurgence of domestic manufacturing who have had a lot of gigantic part of their political brand being you know the dignity of work, the dignity of blue collar work wanting to wanting to create a world where people can work with their hands and provide for their families. And now we've had you know 18 months of trump tariff topia and it's

just even these guys now see it as a clean hit because it has just not succeeded on its own terms and any of these ways. I mean it's been unbelievably chaotic and it's rolled out. It's been they have slammed new tariffs on and pulled old tariffs off voluntarily. That's been a large part of the strategy but then also you know some of that's happened to them because they have gone way overboard with the with trying to squeeze too many tariffs on to tariff authorities that don't

support them and so the Supreme Court yanked a bunch of the tariffs and they've had to try to slap new ones on. They've had to refund a bunch of collected revenues back to the companies and like it just all has not added up to anything. There's nothing to show for it. Nothing to show for it at all and really they have just turned the page to different economic matters by now. But I mean manufacturing has not been coming back like to the extent that anybody wanted to it's interesting that this

ad was not about manufacturing tariff. It was about the impact on farmers who have been you know her perhaps worse than anybody by by all these tariff. So it's a giant mess and it's a clean hit. The lack of resurgence of rust belt jobs and manufacturing jobs is also like the key data point at this point of the failure. Like there's no progress on the horizon like all the only growth and manufacturing jobs or data smeter jobs that have nothing to do with tariff.

Have you heard Trump talk about this where he will he will like explicitly make this point where he's like, you know, we've seen you know construction and manufacturing come back like we've

never seen when you look at factories and also take this. He connects them on the trail.

Yeah, very different thing. You offered a little light media criticism this morning. This is the egg or mad and right section of the podcast because our friends over political had this headline.

Taco no more how Trump won on tariffs. You laid out I think the weakness of the argument

of the idea that Trump could have won on tariffs there just by highlighting all of the failures. The fact that even Shared Brown is campaigning against it like the media you know the meta criticism of this is just like the the degree to which Trump gets curve graded like the fact that like

This is continuing 10 years in or maybe even worse maybe it's it might even b...

than it's ever been the curve grading. Yeah, I just I just kind of thought we were all collectively

past being sort of wowed by this gimmick that Trump does where he he proposes something that

is ultra insane like so insane that no human being has ever contemplated it before like you know 40 to 80 to 110% tariffs on like 60 different nations all at once last April including China in you know massive new tariffs on China and like everybody freaks out because that would be insane and then he says well you know I've decided to pull back you know the the six worst most damaging most insane parts of this and everybody sort of breathes a sigh of relief and all his boosters are

like art of the deal you know you he gotcha again but like he didn't do anything he didn't actually get a win there's been nothing worse. Yeah it's worse than baseline and and the the entire

framing of this article is that Trump won on tariffs by not crashing global economy with tariffs

as some people expected that he would and that now when he you know continues this you know 10% ish on most countries higher some places than others tariff regime and the markets sort

of tolerate it that that is like a big victory but it's not a big victory unless you're actually

getting some from those tariffs like you're sacrificing a certain number of jobs you're sacrificing a certain amount of economic growth like what's the payoff the payoff can't just be didn't crash the economy again today but like that's the frame of the article and I just kind of couldn't believe it. It's the way people get slave to narrative on all this and Trump and his boosters play into this excellently and like far too and he would just go along with it where it's like well

you know the doomsdayers wrong again you know like think about all those people with their hair on fire the people at the Trump arrangement syndrome that said that this was going to crash the economy well the stock markets up so you got to hand it to him got to give it to Trump and it's like well like but no he was the one with agency he was the one that instituted the policy and said that it was going to bring about a golden age and it made things worse on balance yeah yeah the stock

market is way up by the way off of the the back of a gigantic AI buildout which may or may not

pan out first of all like back to the end up popping still I think that the odds of that have

come down a lot because these these technologies just truly are astounding and do actually have a lot of applications so I think that they they will create a lot of value but in terms of the

the present leverage of the market we could have a bubble pop still on AI but the other amazing

thing about that is that the AI sector far in a way more than any other part of the economy has been exempted from the president's tariff regulations I mean we have brought hundreds of billions of dollars of chips into the country the kind of exact stuff that that you know these tariff policies are supposed to help us encourage encourage people to build here that's all point of them is like that you would put tariffs on these gigantic industries in order to force these companies

to build these things in the United States of America and instead you know we have been allowing the economy to pop off of free trade when it comes to GPUs and other chips that these that these data centers need to function and that is it's just so weird like that we well you know the tariffs must not be doing too much damage because look at that stock market well the stock market is going bananas off of the one part of this that is least affected by the tariffs so

it's just I mean it's just also stupid the tariff damage offset by the corruption growth right yeah like that's the working part the working part of the tariffs is the corrupt part where Trump gives a carve out to the richest people in the country who supported his campaign and are paying for the ballroom part of it we're paying for a lot of it and have sucked up to him particularly so there you go you've heard me talk about our friends at Seoul because I love those

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Minute hate on the topic of there's a story going out in right wing media abo...

Fauci diaries he had said that he was keeping an eye on whether the job had any impact on miscarriages

and this story just totally just explodes in right wing media Republican senators pushing it

Megan McCain I saw for one example sent a tweet about how she was blaming her miscarriage on this job based on this one story I mean this was everywhere Joe Rogan says he personally knew five women who miscarried after getting the shot yeah yeah so you were hot of the color on this and so well you just give us a two minute ram man this is crazy this is like a greatest hits of like all of the stories that have spiked my blood pressure in the last like 70 years. It's

trying to do 96 hours I hope I make it to our editorial call this morning yeah I mean it's it's bogus right it's it's made up it's invented it it is it what they did was these guys have have had a bone to pick with Fauci forever you know it kind of seemed for a while like he was pretty low down the target list but you know you work through all the other ones and eventually it's ran Paul and Ron Johnson's turn to put some you know resistance figure in the barrel to take

pot shots at they've been they released his diary a few weeks ago they all kind of pointed

and laughed at him about how he was glad he was on shows this is a bigger thing even than that they they released some of his text messages they grabbed one text messages from January 2021 where he you know before the vaccines had really been rolled out at all and before there was a lot of data on on how pregnant women would respond he he raised the hypothetical possibility of a theoretical pathway that if these vaccines are giving high fevers and creating side of kind

storms after after you take them that couldn't theory be linked to miscarriage so it's a thing they need to watch out for in the data is essentially what he was saying this gets immediately blown up and distorted taken out of all proportion and and turned into a claim that Anthony Fauci knew that the vaccines were causing and would cause miscarriages that he covered that fact up and that then he had a bunch of pregnant women get it you know without knowing the risks

and it's just it's just a complete lie and and exaggeration of of what it was actually happening

on the ground it gets coupled with a piece of bunk science that came out later which which Paul and Johnson also turfed up that that they claimed that the vaccine would go on to cause

a miscarriage rate of more than 80 percent in women who got it in the first trimester

which is completely incorrect it just never happened to be millions and millions and millions of these women got the vaccine under these circumstances it was never linked to miscarriage because it just never resulted in that and also the CDC was not recommending that pregnant women get the shot at first for exactly these reasons because they didn't know yet they didn't have a full picture of the risk profile so they they didn't recommend it they waited for some to go out and

get it they surveilled them they waited for some more to go out and get it they surveilled them they got a better and better picture of what the the miscarriage risk and other side effects risk was which thank thank God was extraordinarily low the vaccines worked it was great we all went back to normal like the the we landed the plane we landed the pandemic plane and and five years down the road we've just hallucinated and constructed from from lies and misunderstandings a complete

revisionist narrative that that slanders people slanders Anthony Fauci on on ridiculous grounds

blames him for a Holocaust of you know first trimester babies that never happened you can see in

the day that there was no surge in miscarriages that was ever linked to the COVID vaccine or that happened at all during this time there was not even like some unexplained surge in miscarriages at this time so it's just yeah it's just a remarkable testament to the power of the right wing infotainment machine to just jinn up anything on anything about anybody and sort of throw it out there as chum for for the piggy's and it was it was really appalling to see for snapping now snap

strange reggaard you did another tweet I liked what was moving forward that was good as all I wanted I went on a Twitter bender like I haven't in years the day all this went down I was like I was like reading tweets and getting mad about them and tweeting myself like deep into the night which is like you know I associate that behavior with like 26 year old me I love so then yeah now Rachel reading rage tweeting from bed you know as a concerning sign and something I try to

reflect upon when I do it notice another thing I've stopped doing it right I try to use it as a side that maybe I should you know read a book the other tweet you said that was good what we're just complimenting you that I just picked my interest I was like you're gonna have one the pod and I want to hear you and you're tell the story I wanted more it left me wanting there's this discourse you know about whether you know there's people in the right who are saying there's no actual

equivalent to welcome the right wing else he said welcome was crazy there's no equivalent to this of something that you know whether right got all wrapped up in something that caused harms

This is obviously absurd the entire trump cult is something like that would f...

times a million and God willing sometime in the future there'll be a Republican who's in Congress

right now who is on a Sunday show that says Trump too was crazy and hopefully that happens in the future but anyway you pointed out that you know the delusions around the you know 2020 election for odd did actually have tangible consequences for people some people who got wrapped up in them and you're at this I vivid memories of talking to women whose husbands boyfriends had told them in early January 2021 they'd be back in a couple days ended up going instrument the capital and then

God themselves multi your sentences I just wanted to hear more about that yeah I can tell this yeah

this was in in Iowa and I can't remember at what point in the primary it was but it was it was you know

pre Iowa caucuses in summer of 2023 I would guess maybe fall of 2023 and I went to what was supposed to be a trump rally in Des Moines which ended up getting rained out and I don't remember exactly with thunderstorms in the area or whatever but it was canceled at the very last minute so I was there and there were a whole bunch of people just kind of milling around who had intended to go there and I was just talking to a bunch of them because I had to write some story and I just happened to

start talking to this group of women who were it turned out we're all there and had kind of found one another over this insane shared experience of their spouses or boyfriends there there husbands and boyfriends having been Jay Sixers and I just talked to them about the the very strange surreal lived experience of of these people who were not necessarily that political themselves probably pretty conservative on in sort of an unconcinered way but were not like obsessives or

chunkies and and just the way that their their people had this is not really the way they put it because they were still more sympathetic but had really just fallen into an internet rabbit hole on this stuff and felt like they were you know had this calling to go out east and help trump you know exposed the fraud and and the country and and then had gotten pulled into the mob I mean these were not like proud proud boys these were not like people who went out there

in intending to do harm at first but who did end up doing harm I mean they had them on real

charges real charges of doing damage and violence you know they could prove in court and that they did prove in court and these guys are serving long print prison sentences well we're we're serving well that time serving and that that was why they were there you know they were like you know trump gives us some hope that if he gets back in there he may uh he may let our guys back out which you know I guess good for these women that is what ended up happened I would have maybe moved on

if I was that I don't know I know you're in there as a reporter role but I think that you know

there might have been a goodwill hunting situation here with you know you might have wanted to do the robin Williamson hugged them like it's okay there are other men in the sea you know it was a very strange interaction I mean because because they they they had they had become more militant right wingers themselves after maybe understandably we're like first of all they're like hey we feel like our guys kind of got a raw shake for this they were just caught up in the moment you know

that kind of stuff and then also you know anytime they themselves had tried to like poke their heads up online or anything like that they had been demonized as sort of the you know the spouses of these January six years and so you could you could sort of see their own sort of unfortunate path to a certain unusual kind of radicalization I mean I don't know there's just so many different kinds of broken people in the trump coalition I'm sure they had that same empathy for the people

that got caught up in the moment to the Kenosha riots etc I'm sure that they had the same

this same same empathy but this I'm always like some of the left sometimes get mad like the

prime example this was Rob Portman when he comes out for gay marriage after his son comes out

and you know you see on the left I think a valid point is made that's like why do the

Republicans always only find empathy for these people when it affects their personal lives why are some of those kind of like well at least he found the empathy for other people I don't know like that yeah you do worse it turns out it turns out you could do worse than unevenly applied empathy and it's being a total sociopath yeah everybody off that's good oh no no evenly applied empathy why yeah once you fit once you experience it then projecting that out that's

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I have one news item and we've done your good takes of your bad take on the only end with unfortunately I guess you call this a news item some people only get their news from this show so when things happen it's like I guess I should just tell them that this happened Donald Trump sent a tweet about how much he loves Kim Jong-un we're having military exercises in

South Korea today that they're ongoing as I think as we're taping right now and Trump said this

I am not happy with the fact that the United States is gonna go agree to participate in these joint military exercises with South Korea they send a sign that is totally inappropriate and hostile to a country that as long as Donald J. Trump is in prison has been unthreatening and respectful

so South Korea inappropriate and hostile North Korea unthreatening and respectful

therefore based on the fact that it's too late to cancel and structured heat heat headsets to substantially reduce the exercises and then he goes while somewhat unrelated question mark I recently asked the residents of South Korea if they could join us in the nuclearization of the Islamic Republic of Iran and they said no thanks so I guess we're gonna punish South Korea because they're not getting involved in the stupid war that we started without informing them

that it's causing real economic damage to their people and instead we're gonna cause you up to

the dictator running a prison state I think that I mean there's a lot that you could unpack

in this statement I think my personal favorite bit about it is that it's too late to cancel

you know it's like this has been in the works for who knows how long but the president is only

just getting around to being like oh wait let's not do that one and it's like actually it's a little late for that and so well I don't know make it smaller make it I've been busy if your kid gets like it's a report card that's really bad on a Friday but you had a birthday party plan for them on Saturday and it's like you're in trouble Mr but it's too late to cancel yeah but he cut up before I mean like once he's been his summer doing right if he's been

up working on the reflecting pool and putting his name back on the Kennedy Center and like all this stuff and it's like he didn't get around to ever telling Pete Hegg said hey cool it with those South Korea you know military exercises but now that they're happening he can't just be like well you know what we'll get him next time next year we won't do it he has to make a big weird diplomatic incident out of it so so that's not good actually I don't know why I don't

laughing yeah well no I mean part of the rationale here is I'm I don't you know he needs he's in the market for some friends and some wins in the foreign policy space and there's a moment or something what all the wars he ended and now it's like well the Russia Ukraine war is smiling out of control the Iran war you've got sailors that are like jumping off ships and we like to have no plan M.L.U. expired and we've achieved nothing and so I don't

maybe date out with North Korea can maybe him and Kim Jong-un can he can buy them over the new ballroom maybe Kim Jong-un can be the one to Chris in the new ballroom that's something to look forward to did you see that he threatened to bomb Oman today for yesterday yeah yeah yeah well I mean it's like okay so I mean he's been he's been threatening to end Iran over and I the the day I came back from vacation the big news of that weekend was the Trump was like I'm giving

you one more chance before I really we did the big one bigger than anything since World War Two and here we are today and it's like well maybe not maybe not bigger than anything since World War Two in Iran but maybe I just you know throw a little bomb an Oman that might happen yeah in the hooties and ever expanding what would be another word for that kind of an ever expanding war in the Middle East you don't know how to stop if it goes on long enough it becomes a forever

war it's like a baby forever right now right and pre-pea doesn't forever war you're bad take which I need to share because some people are mad at me who are listeners and this and you will give them the comfort food that they're looking for there is this geographic engagement bait that goes around just all of us are susceptible to we're all weak I love maps we're map people I

Don't know we're all and I'm weak I know it's engagement bait but I can't hel...

you know they they'll divide up a country you'll see this online and it's like you know they'll be

a pie or various circles and you'll say where would you want to stay if you had to stay the rest of your life okay here's one of them there are what it looks like nine circles in America

and you have to stay within one of the circles for the rest of your life one of the circles new

England the other one's the Mid-Atlantic New York City there's the Confederacy Southeast my people you get New Orleans you get Charleston Florida there's Texas in Mexico there is Arizona California Alaska and Hawaii weirdly you've got Washington Oregon and Northern California that's an appeal like one you've got the Plains States with Denver and there at least you tend to get the mountains you get the weird one which is E in the middle which is just like Jefferson City and Little Rock

I don't know why it breaks and if you really love Branson and then there is F Minnesota Wisconsin Eastern Iowa Illinois Indiana this was chosen by Andrew Aguer as the easiest choice of your life on social media last week I made fun of Minnesota said that there's no good places to vacation in Minnesota we had at least one person unsubscribe over that show I'm just I'm just having fun people okay you know it's not for me different things of a different people vacationing in Minnesota not

for me some people like it that's good that's that's part of the beautiful society it's part of the

bounty that God's given us and a pluralistic society in America people like to do different things you never

really like to do the same thing to be a very boring country even still of all of the places to be

stuck in America for the rest of your life to be a few Minneapolis Wisconsin and Michigan I think

was a poor choice to defend yourself I don't know if you've ever spent any time at the Great Lakes the Great Lakes are perhaps America's most underrated region for a billion different reasons I could take the easy way out and tell you that this is a very easy circle for me personally because it happens to loop in basically my entire extended family St. Louis just barely makes it into F Eastern Iowa Southern Iowa all in Circle F I didn't even see the Minnesota was in there I'm sure Minnesota's fine

you know that little toe of Minnesota this there I'd had I'd had there but the crown jewel here is is Michigan it's the Great Lakes it's Northern Ohio I don't actually want more people to start vacationing at the Great Lakes because that would you know make it a little bit more crowded and a little bit less pastoral and and idyllic but but people sleep on that region in appropriately in my view hmm okay well obviously the only possible answers are BD and G

which goes across the south your desire for winter and you're going to be stuck there where are you going to be where are you going to be in February okay you're going to be sure to ride it out in St. Louis I'm spent very my winter February it's at Louis it fucking sucks it's different for you you're from I mean like worry I'm probably gonna say it was more than St. Louis I grew up a Denver yeah but you have self-selected you have self-selected for the sound you're just a different kind of

person it's a big country a lot of different climates a lot of different regions everybody can win you know we're not all crowding into one circle that's not the point of this exercise thank god that's true then we'll don't be some people who've decided to go to the great legs you're going to ride it out in the great legs that's Andrew Edgar I appreciate you wonderful job substituting for built crystal I have a little rant that I need to deal with at the end was just me so I'm going to let

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the Democratic primary talk now it's when I came back from vacation I gave this big monologue up a start that was like can we keep our eye on the fucking ball people like I was so annoyed with the the politicians the commentators even some of you lovely commenters who are you know so focused on the fight between the moderates and the DSA and the Democratic party that they've like lost sight of what's happening in the broader war and the real threat

that we have in front of us and so I offered that critique of those factualists and then over the ensuing couple weeks I've engaged in that and and critique to democrats and catalytic democrats who are on various sides of that depending on the situation and I've had some feedback it's like Tim I thought you said we need to keep our eye on the ball we shouldn't

be you know criticizing democrats and and I think that I thought that's fair feedback and I just

I just want to be a little bit more specific about what I meant and what I'm trying to do on the show my critique was of people who have decided that their foe within our coalition is the proximate foe they should be focused on like if you if you are a politician or a commentator and you're spending 75 plus percent of your time attacking other people within the tent

or in the case of thirdway spending 15 million dollars going after somebody else within the tent

and like that is your main focus I reject that I think that that is a really stupid focus and and I do think that you've lost sight on the true foe I think simultaneously to that we all went away and I don't think like putting your head in the dirt and saying oh everything the democrats do is great I don't think that helps either in the mission of trying to figure out how to counter this authoritarian movement right like sometimes people on our side screw up

and like obviously the prime example this was Biden and I think that there's a lot of people within the pro Biden kind of group that we're telling those like Bill Crystal and James Carville and others who are saying he's too old he shouldn't run again they're like shut up and that was an helpful right so you know like there's balance in all things right so my favorite say it's like okay um I think we should keep our eye on the ball keep the focus I

I think I'm doing that on the show I always take feedback if you guys think I'm falling down on

that and in addition to that like we have to also like look inside the tent and see what we're making mistakes and try to improve and try to be strategic and try to be smart about how to move forward and and in my view I try to make suggestions based on strategy that are not always in line with what my priors are on policies like like I don't my policy views are not the most popular things like I think if a democratic senate candidate was taking my views in some of these states

they would probably lose that's why I'm not running for senate and the least you know the

lot of reasons but like I wouldn't win so I think I think it's important to kind of be strategic assess you know ways that the pro-democracy movement can improve broadly and to talk about that and like that's the other ethos of the show which is like radical candor right which is like we know who the bad guys are but I'm also going to be candid about what's happening and trying to strike

that balance not always getting to know 100 and I appreciate feedback on it any time and here's

one strategic example I want to talk about and it is a primary happening tomorrow in Florida Jared Moskowitz sitting congressman it's up for reelection but he's had to move to a new district and there's a DSA challenger who is primary in it and I think that this primary is very unstrategic and misguided and I've seen a lot of people on the left like really promoting this primary against Jared Moskowitz and really smearing him and you know spending a lot of effort

on this and I think that you know frankly if it's successful probably cost a Democrats to see and let me tell you why so I just want to back this up if you are a single issue anti Israel voter like you're going to be going for all the luck in the DSA candidate against Jared Moskowitz and that's fine and you can probably just move on from this and we'll see on tomorrow's show like I don't actually agree with Jared Moskowitz on his Israel position I've expressed my dissatisfaction

with some of his comments on the Iran War both publicly and privately and so I disagree with them on that and I think that the cause of my disagreement with him on that I think that is a big part of why I

Want to explain to people like why I think that it's important that he went i...

he is running in a district that Trump won by nine and a half percent. Jared was Jerry Mandard out of his seat by Ron DeSantis, someone of left like the smear him is like a just pro DeSantis guy or whatever just DeSantis had hired him to do emergency management in the state and he did a good job at it and that's an important job in states and we go south so that's a to me that's a qualification not a demerit but Ron DeSantis, Jerry Mandard amount

he could have stayed in a more bully seat his seat was like D+2 I believe previously in South Florida

but instead he did not do a primary with another Democratic member he went to a new district that you know had a bunch of people that he had not represented before that was you know a

Mara Lago district basically it's Trump plus nine and a half it's going to be a tough district to win

with anybody okay it's going to be a really challenging district and Jared Moscow it's was a team player changing to go into this district this harder district because he thought as a moderate he could win it and his DSA opponent followed him to this district and I got to tell you I just makes no sense to me there are two other Democratic Congress people low as Franco and DWS before also Provis real who are in Democratic districts the Democrats gonna win no matter what and so if you wanted to pick

somebody to fight and you wanted to be strategic about it and you were on the left or you were part of the whatever uncommitted movement or whatever is unhappy about how Provis real the Democratic

Party is like those are two options that are kind of clean right where they could have

tried married them and then to DSA candidate one they would have like we won and you know I know they're other examples of this like I didn't really engage in the show even though I'm from Denver that much on that Denver congressional district that the Milock Heroes won against Diana to the Gax is like it's a it's a Democratic seat Diana to kids been there forever I understand while younger people in Denver might want a Congress person that more represents their views

I think not actually been pretty thoughtful on a lot of stuff again we're not gonna agree on everything issue wise but like I think that people might underrate her and she ends up putting that seat against Diana to get and like that's a no harm no file I think that that's interesting that the people Denver will now have you know candidate it's more in the left and like we'll see how that shakes out of she ends up being a bad rep somebody can primary her from

the center that's how democracy works this like is not that like this is a kind of cozy primary

this is an effort to take out Jared Moscow it's because people don't like his position on Israel and they would be happy to have a Republican in the seat instead because the influencer that's running against him is like back in a win that seat I could see the Trump won by 10 points up with a lot of Jewish people in the district because it should be real Jared Moscow it's could win that seat it's gonna be tough on him I think I said he took one from the team to run there

and by the way if you just go outside of the issue of Israel I Jared Moscow it is brings a lot to the table for Democrats in the one hand and he's not as anti-left as some of the left people want him to think I mean he was on the Medicare for all bill Jared Moscow is on the Medicare for all bill for real a giant Paul's Medicare for all pack endorsed him when he

first ran and he's still for it still for Medicare for all and then in addition to that

if you go to the hearings Jared Moscow it's has been doing exactly what we want Democrats to do it's not he's not like you know a John Larson or a Daniel to get these kind of older Democrats who aren't like up for the moment for what is needed in you know pushing back on the right for a messaging standpoint Jared's been awesome on this I picked up just few of my favorites of the highlight reels of him in congressional hearings and doing media and I just want to

play that for you really quick. Well obviously Janine Piro's hitting the box wine again you've called Cori Lundowski a special government employee I understand what government means I understand what employee means okay but I don't know what makes them special. I've had conservative women I would you say that we're either stupid I haven't said it. We keep referring to Christy Nome's dog as a dog but actually it was a puppy it was 14 months old and so and that puppy had a name

say it's name cricket okay that puppy had a name trump's name appears more times in the Epstein files than God's name appears in the book about God okay by the way this is the Trump Bible moving over King James now that the national divorce is happening with with Elon Musk and I'm a child of divorce okay I mean who's gonna get big balls I'm worried about him in the

divorce the children always get caught in the middle I appreciate the the kind words the chairman said

about me on newsmax the other day calling me the court jester so thank you my leash

Madam return general I've like 25 seconds left so because I'm curious and I j...

see flip to the Jared Musk wood section of the binder I'm interested to see what staff provided

on the on the opo on me and because we're in the Olympics I'm gonna give it a great I just want to

see how good it is so give me your best one so there it is I mean he went to war with James

Colmer over the fake Biden impeachment nonsense he went to war with Kristi known was probably

the best democratic congressman and taking on Kristi known and her accesses at DHS he was

the point person for trying to strip the 700 million that was going to ice bonuses out of the

budget I went after Pam Bondy judge Janine as I just played like this legit dude he's been fighting

and he's gonna have to fight to win a really tough district in Florida that election is tomorrow

and you know we got listeners in south Florida happen to be in that district my argument is from a strategic perspective and from a perspective hey supporting somebody who's been a team player and who's been legit in doing his job in congress I like Jared Muskwood's in that race that's my opinion all right I appreciate everybody very much thanks for checking in thanks to Andrew Eger for sub end what and he great we back to my other edition of the show we'll see all that

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