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Bill Kristol: Trump’s Weak, Sad, and Embarrassing Weekend

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POTUS humiliated himself and our country with a peace “deal” that strengthens Iran’s hand and apparently pays billions to the regime—which it can use to build more weapons and fund its proxy terror gr...

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It's one of those Mondays where you know,

it makes me wish I didn't know. I was a gardener or something. You know, Bill, having to wake up and read about the Hector Mountain Dew Kamacho event

at the White House last night and gather the stamina

to come up with an opinion about it. You know, whatever. There are a lot worse jobs out there in America, but it's a bit of a burden. That's why you get the big bucks, Tim.

You know, I myself just read, you know, watch another hour of Nick celebrations in New York City. I'm kind of tuned out to the, yeah. I think it's hard. My whole day on Nick's win.

Happy for the next. We'll talk about the goodness of America at the end.

But unfortunately, Donald Trump is forcing some other stuff on us.

Just because I can't begin with the White House nonsense. We have to start with the real news, which was well, maybe it's real news. I guess that's something to ponder over. The deal, if you will,

the deal about a deal, the memorandum about a deal, the Donald Trump felt compelled to announce on his birthday yesterday, his 80th birthday. I don't know if you know that he's 80 years old, the Brazilian United States extremely elderly.

And he announced it as birthday party that they have a memorandum of understanding with Iran. We seem to get nothing out of that. They are planning on having a formal signing and Switzerland on Friday.

We'll see if it holds till then. We've got a lot to discuss about the contours of that, but Bill, what are your initial thoughts? Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a, we've acknowledged our defeat.

I mean, Trump will acknowledge it. But every normal person looking at this deal sees that, you know, it's best we've sort of walked away with a tiny bit of face saving from a misguided adventure, a misbegotten war that we've lost that failed, failed to achieve our objectives.

We strengthened Iran and we can do ourselves. I mean, I really do think that's pretty obvious and clear. So there are details. It was a nuclear stuff at all. But the way that's, all of that, as you say,

is murky, Trump's footing is best spent on it. The end of the day, Iran has closed the straight paid no price for it. And really retains the option. I would say of doing so. The future will see exactly what the, what the deal says.

If it says anything exact about, you know, this straight thing open.

That part, I think the media's been the most credulous about.

Like Trump says the straights reopen. No, okay. I guess the worst states, but it's back to where it was before. It's not back to where it was before. It best.

It's temporarily opened again. And Iran, I believe, is not given away. It's the option in the future of closing it or imposing various prices and conditions on transit there. So that's bad. The nuclear stuff's totally unsolved.

They're going to get money out of this. Maybe not directly from us, but from the UAE. The regime is solidly in place. The Iranian people have been betrayed. And we've, you know, antagonized allies all over the world by either ignoring them at the beginning.

Or be rating them afterwards. Especially in the Middle East, the Gulf states are just, you know, they can't say it. But they're in a state. And we'll be looking to accommodate Iran on the one hand, but also get closer to China, perhaps. We're reliable.

Eight in times of trouble. Final point, I mean, they'll be misleading photos and vibes from the G7 meeting. The Trump's group to in France. We're going to analyze again, but the best face on this. They still are in the mode.

And if we've got to kind of buy time here as the US withdraws from the world and from responsibility and try to keep Trump kind of on board for as long as possible. So they'll be a lot of happy talk about how this is kind of an okay outcome. But they don't believe it to your point about the street. There was an accidental truth spoken by the vice president this morning on CNBC.

He's doing the rounds where he said this. Well, our expectation is that the street is going to be opened in a toll free way for the long term.

That's the sort of thing that we're going to figure out in these technical ne...

I thought we had a deal. We're still doing technical negotiations. Wasn't that what you're supposed to do before you made an announcement that there was a deal where the street is opened here with the Donald Trump. Yes, sir.

Here with here. There was a good word. Good Trump. He likes that word. So we just like fake fancy words.

You know, to make it. He does love that. Fake legalistic kind of fancy, which I hadn't seen in the event said that this morning. It's very revealing, as you say, the notion that that's something we heard is discuss whether the streets really open.

That's supposed to be like a core red line of us and of all of our allies, right?

That was that is the status quo on today. It hadn't been closed for 40 years. It was treated as an international waterway. No one thought of it as anything, but we are now going to sort of debate that with Iran, which will have all the leverage that suddenly is where busy getting out of there, right?

They're they're sitting right there. So that's, you know, that's a very good illustration. And I was just saying that this one I could have added. That didn't warning Trump. No.

Yeah. That's a good idea. I keep up with Trump's tweets. That alone, like, dance is going out. Why is there?

You've done this stuff for a living at one time. It was, I did a little bit to, why is Vans going out to you? I guess, is he want to go on TV and salad or is Trump making him do it? Well, I saw him on two. I don't have like one of those TV.

So choice is my bedroom where I have every channel on. So it's possible. He's another network. But he at least is the NBC and CBS. I assume he did CBS is a favor to their dad.

He Larry Ellison, who we get to more about that.

I always chip on a minute.

But, you know, it's a new favorite network. So you want to give them a little news bite. And then you're on CNBC to kind of make sure to keep people with it on the markets. Who might be kind of jittery good news. The markets this morning markets are, you know, stocks are up low prices are down.

We'll see to the extent to that how that holds. You know, having Vans out there is also interesting. From there is a critique coming from the neocon right on this deal. Mark Levin was extremely upset about it. Lindsey Graham.

I know he surprised to know that these your former comrades who decided that they would go full board for Donald Trump and say that like this is going to be my man. And we're going to hit our wagon to him and that he's really going to be there as we actually achieve what we've wanted to for a long time, which is overthrow the Iranian regime and have a stalwarts.

American military leadership towards that objective so that we can see freedom, flourish in the Middle East. You'll be surprised that that deal didn't really work out for them. As Donald Trump was not the ally that they had expected, BBs learning the same. Here's Lindsey this morning. Lindsey, this was Lindsey yesterday rather before you went to the fight.

Lindsey, I'm somewhat concerned that Iran's UFC agreement seems different than what the American negotiating team is claiming. You don't say under our law any nuclear deal with Iran will be sent to Congress for a view and a vote. Congress has a job now. That's interesting. I look forward to reviewing the final product and I believe it's imperative that the

architect of the deal vice president Vance be part of the process in presenting the final deal to Congress. That caught my eye. The architect of the deal vice president Vance. Is that true, even? It seems telling I think that he is kind of laying the groundwork for this intraparty squabble

and giving himself some cover if you want to criticize the deal.

I'm not criticizing Mr. Trump, of course, who is brilliant this whole way. But he might have put the wrong guy in charge of this deal. Yeah, and I was struck by that too. Lindsey Graham says he's somewhat concerned about something Donald Trump has done. I mean, Lindsey Graham is here on fire.

You know. Attempt.

And things to think is utter and total disaster because somewhat concerned is the most critical

he's likely to be Donald Trump. So yeah, that's it is revealing. Yeah, and they wanted to advance under the bus for this nice pose, but for what? What was the alternative to use ground troops with no congressional authorization, not having prepared for it? And suddenly seize cargile in with that of change in the outcome.

I mean, Trump, in this respect is instinct to just get out of there, was probably right at this point. You know, probably could have gotten a better deal. Honestly, to once ago, but what do you think the odds are that actually something get signed as we're still in Friday? I mean, the Iranians are going to be very tempted to say, well, Israel says they're not

abiding by the deal and leaven on and they somehow have managed to intelligently the Iranians to just shove that into the deal, which was totally out of nowhere. You know, we got a little bit of a clarity about the straight and you can imagine them just continuing to torment Trump, you know. Yeah, and you don't too thought to that.

And I had my notes here. Sure, this holds tough Friday. I'm not. I don't, I mean, we'll see.

I think there's a lot of incentives on both sides for it, too.

Because Donald Trump is sick of this war and bored, and doesn't have any objectives.

And never had any objectives. And thought this was going to be easy.

And, you know, got himself into just this total quagmire. And he's just looking for any way out of it. And then the Iranians keep adding more things and getting more things, you know, to your point.

There's a report yesterday that Trump won the deal so bad for his birthday party

that when Israel found Lebanon yesterday morning, Trump called BB and started cussing at him. And then the Iranians said, oh, I don't know. If we're going to sign the deal now, we need more stuff. And Trump made additional concessions yesterday. Just, you know, in order to make the Iranians happy, because they're upset about BB and Lebanon.

So then one of those concessions is that Lebanon is part of the deal, which is like, Israel's not a party to the deal. So that doesn't even make any sense. But the fact that it's in there. I guess gives Iran some leverage as well to kind of back away or to get more stuff, get more money, whatever. The other thing I think that's telling about how bad the deal is is that we don't actually have it.

I think that's important to say, maybe I should have started with that.

But, you know, we're all basing this on, you know, here's what the American state media at Axios and Fox News are saying is happening.

And that's, here's what the Iranian state media, far as news and Tanzanim were saying. And like, the Pakistanis put out a statement about what they're saying. We don't have the text. And I think that that is a true, you know, tells you that, well, hey, as JDV had said, there may be some more technicalities to still work out. And be they know the administration knows that once people see the text,

there's going to be a lot of anger and outrage about it. And they probably want to kick that as close to Friday as possible. And we'll see, I don't know, maybe we'll be out by the time we post this. But like, if they felt like this was a huge accomplishment where they had, you know, gained something that Donald Trump can wave around, you know,

beyond just the vague notion of he signed a deal, right? Like if there is some tangible thing, some tangible accomplishment, they would have put it out before the fight yesterday. Like the fact that they didn't, I think tells you that there's nothing to brag about. No, that's really a good point.

I mean, there's nothing to add to. I mean, I just think that this, what is there one most tangible concrete achievement field? You usually have a deal, there are things on both sides. And so the U.S. would stress the two of you things. They got, Iran would stress the two of you things.

They got, and okay, fine, that's what deals look like, right?

I mean, literally, what did we get? Nothing. I mean, we got an excuse for Trump to bring the troops home and say, the war's over, but I mean, they don't even have to turn to how things were before the war may be, but worse. The war's just been open for the war.

We weren't negotiating over the nuclear before the war. And they're going to say it's the nuclear. But the whole point of the MOU is that there's now a 60 day period to negotiate over the war issue. Right. And we were doing what we were doing before the war.

So we spent $100 billion last 14 service men,

American women, antagonized allies, did a million other things that were bad. They killed children, killed children. Yeah, not trivial things, right? And the very best account they can give, which is not in fact true, is that we're back to where we were in February, 27th.

And we're not even back in nearly as good shape. So I don't know. I was talking to a friend yesterday. It was worried it would Trump succeed spinning this Fox News. You know, this is something he's not crazy to be concerned about that, given the last 10 years in Iraq and politics.

But I kind of think this one is just hard to, what do they have?

It was a war. I mean, this, they were literally negotiating with Iran. It's what the nuclear thing. We hadn't sold out the Iranian people yet on February 27th. The strike was open and unquestionably open.

There was no talk about giving the money. There was not much talk about relieving sanctions. Which in cell is the other thing. Do we believe, I don't believe these sanctions are going to still be odd or odd in 30, 60 days.

And Trump's going to, you know, laugh, that'll be one of the first things he's going to say.

So we will give it up. What was, whatever one thinks of the Obama deal, when they did keep a lot of the sanctions, there was that snap back. They were endless disputes.

I can't even remember the many more of that exactly which sanctions were strong enough for all this. But they were, like, the actions were sanctions. You know, I think it's, we're, we're going to deal that, honestly, if any, if Biden or Obama just had to please say this, but if Biden or Obama done this, the entire Republican party would be denouncing

it as much worse than the double-chample interview to kill. Oh, yeah. No, humiliating week. It's Carter. I know it would have been Carter with the hostage deal.

You know, I just, I, this idea of just utter weakness. I, in this, with the, the Republicans are resigning. Like, that, that he couldn't even back up his own bluster. Said it was going to be unconditional surrender. Ended up begging the Iranians to let him get out of a flagmire.

Like, the whole thing is just totally humiliating. And, and, like, if you go back to the pre-war, it, it is too kind of them to say we've gotten to the pre-war status quo, because I, in a, the straight-to-formers will not be at the pre-war status quo. And, or, or on, we'll have more control over and some kind of economic benefit from it.

That they didn't have before, but even setting the straight aside. I, one of the rationales that you heard from the misguided, but reasonable supporters of the war at the beginning, was that this could be the moment to topple the regime. Because they were so weak.

Right, I, there, there were protests in the streets. The Iranian economy was in tatters.

The, I told us was a hundred years old.

And, you know, there was a, some type of regime change coming soon.

Anyway, because he was going to die, you know, their proxies have been weakened by a lot of actions that Israel had been taken. The regime was in rough shape, before we bombed them, and before we defeated them. And now you come out of this on the back end,

and you have a more hard line regime that has more control over the country. And they're going to have more money. Right, because they're going to have a huge influx of cash. Like, what is that money going to go to? And do you think the money is going to go to the Iranian people?

Or do you think it's going to go to get more missiles and replenish the drones and support their terrorist proxies, other places?

That's what I think the money is going to go to.

And if you're greedy, which surviving a war, pretty all out assault by us after all, which as Pete XS said, over and over, well, great. It's huge, you know, devastating, debilitating assault on every Iranian asset,

blah, blah, blah, blah. They survived it. They did more than survive it.

They held their own, ultimately in a way.

And now they're coming out of it better. I mean, what does that do? It's strengthens around a lot. But a weak, weakens us really a lot. I mean, whatever one thinks of other aspects of our diplomacy over the decades,

over the years and the decades, and our, you know, soft power at all, the one thing who's supposed to be pretty strong, right? And it turns out we weren't strong. Even bilaterally, we couldn't, you know, we get an Apache helicopter shot down.

That's a week ago, right? Yeah, Friday.

I think 10 days are going on, 10 days ago.

It's by a drone. Two days after Trump is said, oh, man, if they mess around with our troops, if they put everyone at danger, that's really a red line. And the audience just to show, you know, they could do it,

shut down in Apache, and we did one or two days of token bombing, and then went back to begging for a deal. So I think the degree to which we look weak is really, it can't be overstated, actually. And just last week, also just on the way, it's worth mentioning.

Well, you said that he takes out those bragging about all of the bombing that we did, that they not only survived, it came out the other side in stronger negotiating position. It was just Trump, the president last week, said the US military dropped 250 million worth of bombs on Iran and one night.

It's great. And one night. So I don't know. Like, was he lying? And the president's just making shit up about what we're doing?

That doesn't seem good, or is he trying to truth? And we spent a quarter billion dollars of our money on bombs, you know, on bombing Iran last week to no end, to no purpose. Like, or to the purpose of, you know, getting us to a deal that's worse than where we were before the bombing started. And the whole thing's terrible.

I'll let Tom Neckle sum it up for it. Everybody to basket you there. Nice job. The Atlantic this morning.

The reality is that the world closed with the regime in Iran intact.

And in the grip of the IRGC, the straight informers were made under the threat of Iranian attacks. Iran will continue to possess significant drone and missile stocks. The regime will maintain the capability to be a state sponsor of terror. And many sanctions will be lifted and billions of dollars in unfurls and assets will flow to Iran. In other words, the Iranians have achieved our key strategic aims,

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All right.

American 250 celebration last night at the White House.

I want to start with this. The Iran situation is like a tangible disaster. And people's lives, we heard. Some people are dead as we mentioned. Children are dead. Everybody's paying more because of this.

Our position is weaker in the world. Like these are all like the negative fallout from bad and incompetent leadership and clownish leadership, like we're all experiencing from the Iran War. The cage fight on the White House is like more just about what we feel America should be, right?

It's more about these kind of esoteric questions. No children died last night. There were a couple fat people that got into a fist fight last night in the White House London were arrested because that's country that we have right now. But besides that guy going to jail, nobody actually suffered any consequences last night.

It was simply bad propaganda theater.

But it was really bad. I mean, it was propaganda theater that was really bad and harmful and outside of the spirit of what is good about the country. So we might as we'll talk about it. Before I play some of my favorite audio clips of the evening,

do you have anything in particular that struck you?

I didn't watch it. Is this a say? I think it's too depressing. Well, none of us could watch it because it was on Paramount Plus. Yeah, that's another thing, right?

It was like the whole thing is so appalling on eight different levels. It's commercial of it. I guess one point that I struck Mark Ritley had an excellent piece of the public this morning on this, the use of abuse of the military to provide the trappings of

a state occasion, a solemn state occasion for this ghastly event, is particularly appalling.

Well, they did this gimmick. Where every fighter that walked into the ring was paired with, what is it, a metal of honor recipient? Yeah, and so then when they walked into the ring, the military that we forced to be there was saluting them in uniform

because they could not tell, you know, whatever soldier says, I was there meant to salute wrestlers, but they do salute, you know, matter of honor recipients. So it was kind of a clever, and I don't mean that in a good way, but like a clever, like Fox, like way of Dean of White and Trump,

to kind of force the, you know, soldiers to stand there at attention while the wrestlers went to the ring. And then the honor guards and the whole thing. If I found that, I guess, the most off-putting the commercialization, a little bit kind of creepy too, you know, all the signs everywhere,

and Trump personally benefited from it, of course. And I don't know, the violence, I mean, it's a lot of things. I don't know, it starts even know which part is most offensive to do. Do you want to tell me what you're talking about? I did, yeah, I did.

Let's take one at a time. I was just really good on the hurtly. Thanks. I'm still good, and I'll put the ring in the show notes for people if they haven't read the article.

His column reflected on a speech that Tom Wolf had given. Yeah. She's the army.

When he was, I think a young recruit, he says,

it was in the mid 80s sometimes. I think he was back as a kind of a captain, you know, working teaching a little bit of West Point. So this is 87. I think Tom Wolf, the novelist and essayist and died a few years ago.

Yes, it was a guest speaker there, and partly quotes it. It's really amazing. Yeah. Yeah. And the speech is a meditation on FTRs for freedoms,

which is another speech worth going to read. If you haven't, in a minute, it's good to reflect on. But he picked on one particular element, where Wolf is talking about how, you know, as fewer and fewer people join the military,

you know, more and more. It'll be kind of a select group of people in the military that will be used by the broader society to, to their ends. And it's something to guard against any of this line in particular. Those in the military will become set nulls at the back and all,

and armed monks at the Orgy. Quite apt 39 years before what that was exactly what they were doing last night. They were literally the sent nulls at the back and all on the White House lawn. And it was a, it was a, a backing all that was also not really, at the word times joy, but it also,

there was a lot of partisan rancor and, and grotesqueries. You know, and we had to go through this period of like, oh, the singers are backing out and the Trump people and the back of people are like, whoa, they don't love America. And why do the liberals like we would,

if Obama was president to a conservative singer would go and sing, because he loves America.

Why aren't these liberal singers coming to sing in our event?

So it's because you've turned this into, you know, a disgusting display of Trump worship, an Orgy, if you will, a Trump worship. And there's one man in particular, I'm not going to learn the MMA fighters names. I'm sorry, so whatever. It was a guy who's there, and he won his fight.

After the fight, this is what he had to say.

And lastly, Michelle Obama is a man and my right America. It's Joe Rogan there interviewing him with a shitty and grand on his face. It's just like, I don't want to do the pearl clutching thing. It's like, this is fucking sick. I mean, this is sick.

It's loser behavior. You know, you're at the White House. It's supposed to be a celebration of the country. But wasn't that the whole point of this originally? It was the America to 50 celebration.

So it's the celebration of, you know, the history of the country and our principles.

And if you want to have a fight to market, not my cup of tea exactly.

But okay, you know, but have the guys then go up there and be like,

the first black, first lady actually has a dick.

And like, have everybody cheer and have the cabinets sit there and applaud. And it's, it's just pickable. Totally. I didn't see that much. I just seen a couple of clips.

Yeah, they don't seem to be very happy. It's not a celebration of America. I believe some of the money that the cup was appropriated for taxpayer money for celebrating the children of the anniversary. You went to this event and as it's going to all of Trump's ridiculous other events too. But they're unhappy about America.

And it's impossible to imagine like counterfactuals like somebody like the death. The death Democrats all event Saudi being like, like, Melania was a male order bride or, you know, on the White House line. Look, you don't even like this stuff is. But you know, what's good to him is that. I mean, Lindsey Graham, who you were called 2015 and 2016, did that.

It was quoted on video actually, praising Joe Biden this very decent human being. I think it was after Bob Biden died and Lindsey was it Spets would talk to him to vice president. It's been really like French. Conroy actually vice president. Yes, vice president.

But people like Lindsey who were there, they've denounced this. I mean, they've said this is inappropriate. And they're kind of embarrassed. This, you know, was. Or blemish on our feathers.

Because they respect President Obama. This is Obama for there.

For having been president in the first lady.

And they think this kind of thing is inappropriate. I haven't a lot of other Republicans who are there. The cabinet members. Your friend percent hasn't. Best of whatever his name is.

Hasn't he? Hasn't he spoken up and Lindsey Graham. John Thun was there.

I believe Mark Zuckerberg, distinguished corporate.

Tighten head of Facebook. Doesn't believe in that kind of thing, you know. But a single person that we funded actually try to go ask the law. Of course, say anything I suppose. Maybe Lindsey would be slightly concerned, you know.

And this point I don't want them to. I don't even want this. This is that. They wanted this, right? They want this.

Let them. They have their chance. And the moment. To say, like, no, this is not appropriate. Like, we're at the fucking White House.

We're celebrating the country.

Like, why are you making trans jokes about the former first lady?

Like, it's fucking insane. I'm talking insane. I'm going to say something. And I'm the founder of Yaui. A few years ago, the official work and the specialised object of the company.

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to be able to find out who's in the sport. Start now on Shopee-Fi.com. All right. So here's this dish tonight before they had a weigh in at the ellipse. And they also had a press conference at Lincoln Memorial the day before the fight.

It's worth just not even a quick set out in front of the Lincoln Memorial. There was just a ton of trash. And Trump's been talking about how he beautified the reflecting pool. And how great it looks. Well, the reflecting pool was like green the next morning.

And I don't know. These guys were probably testing in there. They're dumping their bud light in it or something, but anyway. I don't know if that vomit was real or whatever. But there's this guy spitting up on himself, talking about how scary black man

are the night before he goes into the White House. And starts making trans jokes about Michelle Obama on what should be a celebration of the country. The whole thing is so just gross and yucky. Throwing up on himself.

So let me be all was drinking life now. He's about who won it. Who wouldn't be. I have a giant black man that wants to knock me out. It's the most knockout in UFC history. He's still a judge.

We're going to look for him.

Oh God, I hadn't seen that.

I was kidding me. The show, the show is full of it.

I'm here. I have you. Here's part of the reason you haven't seen that.

Part of the reason you haven't seen that was because of the corruption of this deal.

So when they first said that this is going to happen, again,

it was initially exposed to be a national celebration on R250. Trump gets Dana White on board. He's at the UFC. Dana White says, hey, that sounds great. It will be non-political. We'll put it on CBS. So everybody can see it. We have partnership with them.

Instead, what they did was put it behind their paywall on Paramount Plus. So in addition to having, you know, it just be a total abomination. Everybody had to get a little taste too. So you want to make sure that for any of the UFC fans who are not Paramount Plus subscribers, like they'd pay Larry Ellison to watch this.

So Larry Ellison gets a handout from the event that happens on the White House lawn that we all pay for. This text pairs. So that's nice, I guess. For him. And Trump gets a handout, right? Where's his response?

Well, Trump's paying a little bit.

That's a little bit of a ghost-bolted ways.

The Trump crypto was a sponsor. Can we just, let's just play that. This was in the middle of the event last night. I mean, this is even real. Here's the fucking advertisement in the middle of the event last night.

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The ultimate fighting championship also announced that it will pay bonuses to the fighters in the form of a cryptocurrency issued by the Trump family business. World Liberty Financial, so the Trump shit coin was part of the prize purse last night at the America 250 celebration. I feel like it's this event, I don't know, Argentina or the Philippines, not to pick on these countries.

Let's say a third world country that has had dictatorships in our lives.

And huge amount of grift and graft and Russia to take another country. I feel like someone would have said if they'd gone to this, each of these things have been ticked off. Someone would have said, "We can't go that far." I mean, even we know what this is too much. It's like, I have some fucking dignity. I have some self-respect.

I'm going to steal these people money on the back end. We're not going to put on the television screen. This is sponsored by Putin coin. We're not going to have a little bit of a logo on the mat that's like, "By Putin, stable, and Putin or X, Putin.com." It's embarrassing.

It is humiliating. You're right, but some Putin would do, save your Russia.com. It's a glory of Russia coin, right? That's the more traditional way. And then of course you take the cut on the back end.

That is striking about Trump, right? It's so insecure, I suppose. Maybe he thinks it's better that it works better this way, the grift.

Or is it just insecurity that his name has to be on anything?

I don't know. Yeah, I think it's definitely insecurity, Fred, didn't love him. I think it's pretty much what it is. It's just preposterous. In 2014, SNL had done a segment.

In 2015, there was a campaign. And it was like, "If Trump wins, this is what it would look like." And it was just a video of last night. Everybody, you know, all the conservatives sort of defend like these liberals, like don't understand real America.

It's like it's so unfair, it's so biased. It's like Trump's, you know, just total depraved disgusting, grotesque clownish behavior is like so far beyond what Hollywood could have even imagined in parodying. Republicans, that's that parody is now impossible. Like how could you even parody from here?

But it's Andrew pointed out, it's Andrew pointed out. And more than just this morning, if you actually criticize what happened last night, you're out of touching real America. You lead us. You don't like this fight, this ultimate fighting championship.

You want them to be playing croquet on the way to Islam. You know, real America likes this stuff. Actually, it's to be fair to real America. There's not much evidence that like this stuff. There was some poll that showed, you know, like 16% of people like this.

I don't know what the ratings are and that paramount plus thing. I don't think you know how you do that even with pay for view or whatever. I don't know. A lot of America was watching the World Cup yesterday. It was watching that Stanley Cup finals.

I feel like a lot of rappers watching the World Cup. I'm willing to bet a lot of a higher percentage of radical watching the next Saturday night. They're watching that crap last night, right?

The real America, yes, is to, I mean, it's not even the real America.

That's what's so annoying, right?

And then Mark Teeson inside the beltway here in Northern Virginia, right?

If the Washington Post about, yeah, you will lead us. You don't like this kind of thing. Maybe we just decent people. It don't like this kind of thing. And it's so embarrassing for our country.

And it does sort of tie in with your on thing, not to overthink this.

But I mean, the decline in power is not unrelated to the decline in self-respect and dignity.

And you know, the decadence. Let's put it that way. That's true. Though it's mostly Trump's fault.

I mean, like, honestly, real America existed for 200, 35 years, 240 years.

But we're Trump. I though are conservative.

It's like Ronald Reagan would have never thought to have an event at the White House.

Totally. Where? Not right. making fun of Tipo Neale's wife's looks like that would have never been okay, Kennedy. You know what I mean? Like Kennedy would never have, you know, gone and said, hey, maybe Eisenhower's a lesbian. Like this is like just not the kind of things that, like, so what are you talking about that like real America demands? So Trump is Trump is as hijacked or Trump is hijacked the term and it's unfair to the real America. Yeah. I'm also a president of the United States and I'm the president of Yawi. A few years ago, the government's government and the anti-war social media are being specialized.

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Like that's literally it was. We were made it seem like they put a trans person on their can, not that that would have been a problem, but they just I got a sponsorship for a single influencers Instagram reel. And we had to do Bud Light protests. People are pouring out Bud Light way to pretend like we care like this was a real story. Politicians talked about it. I went to, I was doing the circus during all this. Like Ted Cruz, they would talk about this on stages about how horrible it is that Bud Light did this.

Bud Light was their sponsoring last night when the shirtless man was shouting about how Michelle Obama's a man. I don't, I don't know if we'll have any statements from Bud Light today. We'll keep an eye out for that Dodge ram was sponsoring it. Crypto.com, which is just a Walmart of scams was sponsoring it. Polymark it. The one that was really come of either was re-odd season, which is the Saudis big tourism play that they've got coming up that they sponsored it.

And I think because of all of the disgustingness of last night, like there will be little focus on this.

And so I just wanted to take a moment for it. So at least here we can express correct outrage about the fact that we needed the Saudis to underwrite our national celebration. Like why? Why? Trump has turned us into such a brok Dick country where we are like a fucking, you know, QVC telephone of a country that now like Middle Eastern, Sharia law dictators have to underwrite our national celebrations. They have to underwrite our presidential plane. Like it's sick. Like why? How? Why?

Get that shit away from the White House lawn. The Saudis should not be part of an American celebration. I mean, for starters, they were involved at some level at 9/11. So they're involved in a tack on us 25 years ago during that 250. And they share none of the American traditions and values that we're of liberalism and pluralism and rule of law. And things enshrined in the Constitution and the Declaration. None of that is a value that the Saudis hold.

So why should the Saudis be able to advertise on our White House lawn? Because they have a lot of money and Trump wants their money and they actually want to make sure Trump, they're in good with Trump. Because they get things out of it to I suppose. And so it's a wonderful commercial relationship, I guess. We don't need to beg for their oil money. And now it's disgusting. It's beyond disgusting.

I couldn't, America first really is the greatest fraud in a way of the law.

You know, right? I mean, he couldn't care less about America, right? It turns out.

So it's, except for when it's a celebration of him. I want to close this section with this. I want to pull a bell.

I was doing some Googling last night. So I get into trouble when I do some history reading. And I was reading about the Persepolis birthday bash. You know anything about that? No, you're ahead of it in 1971. So you're around. Okay. The Persepolis birthday bash.

Yeah, I wasn't paying attention to the versepolis birthday bash. Is that the Greek content or something? I'm guessing now. No. This is the 2500 year anniversary of the Persian Empire.

Oh, that's right. Yeah, this is a Cyrus the Great.

It was a lavish star shaped oasis of 50 luxury air condition tents. So it's constructed on 160 acres site. There's an 18-hole golf course. There's a beauty parlor flown in from Paris. Military parade, during the time of the shot. And it was intended to showcase Iran's rich heritage and the show's power. But the excess amidst local poverty created a backlash.

The divide deep in public dissent and it's widely cited as one of the catalysts for the 1979 Islamic revolution. And so I was just, I was, I don't know. I was looking at that last night and I was like, Hey, here's the way from revolution. I don't know. We can speed things up a little bit more in the modern era. Now, you mentioned I remember like when the revolution was happening in 79 when the shot fell. This was cited as kind of like, you know, both the cause of it and also, I don't know what's right.

We're like a irony of history thing, right? The moment they celebrate the most grandiose celebration is usually happens just before everything falls apart.

So let's hope, yeah, but let's make it more like eight months, not eight years, okay?

Because we haven't gone, you know, someone else pointed out that Nixon, because it's something Nixon did in 73 that by the year before being a chemo was now before he was driven out of office. So I'm, I'm more in the, when you're, time horizon and the eight year time horizon here, but it's a good, it's a good comparison. Pride comes before the fall kind of pride goes with the stroke, right?

Anything else on that? No, can we quit? Can we never talk about that again?

Well, until I think you talked about it again when resistance revolution happens, then we can side it. And we only have, I guess, I don't think, what do we have now? Three weeks till a little less than three weeks till July 4th, right? It's a Friday. So yeah, and I kind of was thinking until until this conversation actually until last night, we sort of made this through without as much unpleasant as such, I expect that of Trump's hijacking of the 250. And I actually think it's sort of, it's been a flop. That is he, he wanted to make it a big thing all about him.

And I think most people have just ignored most of his attempts to do stuff, or they haven't quite paned out the dollar bill, they turned 50 dollar bill. And the other stuff hasn't happened yet, at least the arch, that's really worth fighting and stopping. So I was reassuring myself that, and I still have sort of reassured the public isn't really unbored as hijacking. And it doesn't seem to be changing anyone's mind about anything, and we would all forget about it pretty quickly. But this was so, I'm still hoping to forget about last night, pretty quickly.

This is a part that worries me, and it's why I do kind of want to move on from it, not to this, because like, he is good at this, manipulating the public dial. Like I don't think I'm going to be watched at last night. I'm not saying that this is deep well of love for, you know, a guy fucking shouting about much old mom of being trans, but like, the people that he was able to engage, like people that don't pay that close to attention to all this,

and probably what if you've noticed that America 250 was happening to be honest in another world?

What do they receive? They get trickled down stuff. They'll get, like, a meme that somebody sends them of, like, the planes flying over the White House. Like, this looks cool, you know? Or, like, they'll get a video of somebody crying about, you know, what was happening, and, you know, with someone else being like, these guys are what's is, you know what I mean? And, like, this is the culture war at, at base, right, like, this notion that

they're these, like, fancy boys and girls who, like, care about decorum, and then there's us, you know, who just care about fighting, fucking bitches and making fun of people, you know? Like, that's, like, they framed that up. And, and I worry about that, that that is, like, that that's a little bit of a losing fight for people on our side. I feel like making fun of them, and, you know, mocking them and talking about how pathetic and embarrassing, and sad, this is, is better path, but, um, I don't know.

I worry about it as a propaganda device. You're right to give in the history of other authoritarian regimes, and maybe people like me, kidding, myself, kidding ourselves, that, you know, on the other hand, look at the authentic

Celebrations of the next, look at the World Cup around the country, that seem...

and that's really where the real America is, but they can get moved by some of that

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Now, let's start our new test on "Shoppy-Fi.com". On the failed propaganda front, the Trump name did get taken down from the Kennedy Center we think. They're still hiding it. They're still hiding, and they're still wallowing their shame and hiding it.

They're still hiding it, and they're still hiding it. What would you call it? Like a tariff for something. Yeah, curtain. And front of the words or on the outside of the Kennedy Center,

where it literally said that John F. Kennedy Center and then the Donald Trump. And they took down the Donald Trump's name from it. We have some images of photographers taking pictures through the side of the tariff, where you can see the D coming down.

But there's not video of it. At the time we're taping at this morning 11 a.m. that tariff blocking it is still up. But that's pretty weak. I don't know, it's resad that this happened.

I don't know, do you, you're more of a Kennedy Center, man. Did you have any thoughts? The guy who's running at the Kennedy Center is a Trump appointee. So I read some of he talks to Trump a lot. I wonder, you know, he just, Trump,

after insisting on this ridiculous appeal that they lost at the last minute. I said, "Well, I don't want anyone to see this in my name coming down." Does that really, some point people will see this name's not on there. So I think so. That would be good.

You know, the one point I think it's kind of a little lost is people say, "Well, you lost the lawsuit."

That's great, you know. Representative Vady Joyce Vady of Ohio, a 75 year old woman, black woman from Ohio. He was an ex officio member of the Kennedy Center Board. He wasn't allowed to speak at the meeting where they made this decision. The Trump appointed members of the board to honor Trump.

She fought the lawsuit. And I was talking to someone who was very involved in this. I mean, she didn't have that much support at the beginning. It wasn't like everyone was running to say, "Do this." You know, the other members, the other other people on the board,

who were ex officio including Democrats, were like, "Come on. Let's not pick this fight here. You get a lot of trouble." She had to go to a meeting in the White House alone.

They wouldn't let it ring a staff, never.

When the entire rest of the board was like 30, you know, Trump appointees, cabinet officials, and big shot rich people. And she had to go alone and object. So she would have standing then to challenge the illegality of what happened. So she deserves a real shout out.

I would say real credit. And it's not like she's, you know, she's not like a, I don't think a real arts, you know, famous person. And you know, who loves the arts, that's it. She was put on this because that's her position.

You know, she had a position in Congress that she got she became ex officio on the board. And to someone asked her, I think that was our colleague,

Brendan Arnold doing the live stream at 2am.

She was there and said, "Why did you do this?" She said, "It was the right thing to do. What Trump was doing." So I'm missing. I didn't like it to watch the whole line stream.

She had a Brendan for being down there. It's out of the Kennedy Center, but she was there. That's good. Yeah. Yeah.

Good for her. That should be up to. She's actually like from Ohio. She's not a, at least her West Coast leaders. I could put out.

Pride of Central State University and will be forced to allow. That's real America, too, by the way. Totally. Good for her. Joyce, baby.

All right. Anything else? Good night in your gears. On this Monday morning. Are we going to chat about the next triumph?

Of course. I could do that for two or three hours. But you've cleverly run out of the clock here and not let me. No. You don't know.

If it were, if it were your guys. If it were your guys. Okay. It would be you.

The whole first 35 minutes would have been on that.

No. I'm not complaining. It's okay. The first 4th and 6th grade has come back. And NBA Finals history all in one series.

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Huge numbers of people that will hold different skin colors and races and ethnic backgrounds and ages and health and politics and well, you know, and staff. Unfortunately, I just shouted at George Conway and tried to ruin the moment.

There's always a whole lot there for the month.

Then watch, I played a little soccer as a kid. I'm not a huge woke-up fan or soccer fan. I watched the Netherlands Japan game yesterday, which was an excellent game. It was really, it was sort of touching. I mean, there they are playing in Texas.

I think in Arlington and the Cowboy Stadium.

And first half of score all is then back and forth in the second half and up to two to pan rally twice to catch up with Netherlands, which I think would be the favorite team there. Both teams played with sportsmanship. Their fans were, you know, crazily enthusiastic for their own team. And also totally, sometimes, well, could tell friendly to the other fans and sort of shared some, you know,

like, photos together and like seem to, you know, some food and so forth. And in the parking lot and the Japanese, the Japanese fans cleaned up their section. After the event. They have a different custom. They fit in Japan in the US.

That was maybe interesting. Yeah, that we didn't have that circles as back to the Lincoln Memorial. The magazines did not clean up the after themselves.

In front of the front of the Lincoln Memorial.

But I've been having my support. And in one of the shots, the world cups, it is kind of nice. I got to say on this, I think I give them credit. They scattered it all over the country. People seem to be very well-versy.

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