Jane Coaston: POTUS's Racism Notches Another Win

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I'm your host Tim Miller. I am delighted, but not as delighted as you the audience is to welcome back to the show host of Cook and Media as what a day podcast, which is now daily.

“Come in for me, but it's shorter, it's shorter, okay?”

You can do both. And she's also, as I mentioned yesterday, the people like her so much, she's the current record holder for most audio downloads of a single podcast, and I think it's just

because people wanted her Milania to take so bad, it's Jane Coast. - Hello, it's good to see you, Tim. - Jane, high bar fee to Claire. - I know, I know.

I regrettably we don't have Milania Trump explaining how we should have just read her book, but no one read her book. I'm so sorry, I still haven't. - I should have pulled a clip just for fun.

We should have just done a flash at the end. D, I had nothing to do with you. (laughing) - How I met my husband, which I detailed in my book. And I'm like, no, we did read it.

- I did not do sex trafficking with Jeffrey Epstein, okay? Anyway, we've got a grab bag of fun, Tim, and Jane topics at the end. We are going to have to talk about Chud Catholic Converge de in the middle.

At the beginning, I had to start with some angry news.

Is that okay, can we do mad, stuff first?

“- I think, yeah, I think that makes sense,”

'cause I mean, there's a lot of angry news before we get into how Ushavance didn't have any issues growing up, and she doesn't really get with JD's. So deal is, but that's not your deal over there.

- We'll get back to it. I feel like I can call it, that we're kind of on that, that's what a nickname level. I'm trying to say which thing I'm more upset about this morning. I think the thing I'm most upset about

is the Supreme Court ruling on the temporary protected status for the Haitians, and we're gonna do legal nerdy next week, but when we get all of the Supreme Court rulings in, and so I don't know that we need to go through the ruling of the fine-tune come,

but in short, what the practical effect is is that over 300,000 Haitians who fled horrific conditions in their country, and are in America under legal status, have now been made illegal by the Supreme Court

because of some Calvin Ball style decision, and now they're subject to Mark Wayne Ball and Stephen Miller and their goons, and I don't know if it's gonna happen. So I've got some rage on this from one of what your reaction is.

- Yeah, I mean, there are a couple of things about this, because it's not just folks from Haiti, it's folks from Syria, it's folks who are here on temporary protected status. And there's a split screen,

which a couple of people have been sharing I did as well, which is Samuel Alito, saying like Trump's comments, you can say anything about someone's country, you can just like dislike people's country,

like whatever, it's fine. Like so it's not racist. And then you have, if I remember correctly, you have in her dissent, Alena Cagan being like, here is all of the things Trump said about Haitians,

and talking about how they're bringing AIDS, how they live in the shithole country, how they're just terrible people, how we should be able to get more people from Norway and Sweden,

and it was interesting how Samuel Alito's whole thing was doesn't look like anything to me. And this is someone who wants to decry the sopranos for promoting anti-attallion racism. So like there's this weird like,

it's interesting because I just keep thinking about how like the Supreme Court, the conservative justice is on the Supreme Court, can see racism if it impacts them directly. Everybody else they're like, oh, what?

Who? Like, it's like if horse blinders work like this, and it's telling because I just keep thinking of moments in which people on the right have decried anti-white racism or what they believe to be anti-white racism, and which really just makes it so clear

that there is a swath of the American right that knows what racism is, but can only identify it if it is happening to them. - Or I think maybe in the case of anti-Semitism, for example, like on Fox, they're like very keyed in

on any signs of anti-Semitism. If it comes from a DSA last year. - Right, right, but again, you go like, you know, anti-Semitism on the right. They're like, who?

- What? - I don't know what you're talking about. I got nothing, and I'm like, yeah, your hands are in front of your face and your eyes are closed, and you've just been going all-all-all-all-all-all-all-off

for the last several years. Or you've been saying like, oh, it's okay.

“Because I'll never forget the, you know,”

conservative commentator Ben Shapiro basically saying,

like, and culture, maybe anti-Semitic, but she likes Israel, so it's cool. Don't worry about it, you know? No need to worry about that. Like, it's totally fine.

Also, you can say whatever you want about a liberal Jew.

No, mmm, not allowed.

- Here's the thing, and like I said,

“we'll get more into the court seven next week,”

but this is what people voted for. And like this is what we're gonna get. When Donald Trump came back in. And it's a heinous, right. - Right.

- Disgusting, un-American, like fundamentally un-American policy. But I mean, it's what they campaigned up. This was not, they did not hide the ball. I mean, they campaigned on these people,

being kicked out of the country, talking, and they made lives about them. They can't send dogs. - They wanted to pay a bounty. You know, Christopher Rouveau offered a bounty

for proof that Haitian immigrants eat cats and/or dogs. This was a thing that actually happened. - Did ever get that? Do you pay out the bounty? - Unclear.

I'm guessing, no. I will also note that there's very specific groups that apparently were very mad about animal cruelty and that group does not include white people who apparently can do animal cruelty all day long.

There's kind of this overarching thing. I have words like, oh, you know, you had on CNN last night, somebody ranting about a Haitian immigrant who hit and killed a child in a truck or something like that,

and basically just, yeah, yeah.

Which, I mean, one, the parents of the child went to a city council meeting,

“if I remember correctly, and begged people”

to not use their child's name as a political cuts. But also, it's so obvious. This idea of like, one person did something, that was terrible and horrible and awful. And that's just a one person did something.

And then it's like, obviously this is, you know, a demic across this entire large community, which is just like such obvious, bog-standard evil racism. That's just, that's just how it is. Like there's a temptation to want to do it for Ted

of just being like, look, like, clearly, we don't care about criminality coming from any other group or any other number of people. But to your point, this is what they campaigned on. This is what they said they would do.

And there really is something about like,

there are people who can say in some ways

that the Trump administration, you know, this isn't what I voted for. I didn't vote to go to war on Iran. I didn't vote for him to be obsessed with the fucking reflecting pool.

I didn't vote for him to be obsessed with, I don't know, arches and ballrooms and be like, you know, like, if, like, whatever the actual stereotype of Marie Antoinette who side note, seems like she was a fine person. It's fine.

We can get into that as an another conversation, but, you know, actual Marie Antoinette, fine. But like this, you knew, you knew the whole time. You wanted it to be the economy of 2019 and you said, this is also fine.

- So it's fine. We're gonna send the, the, the Asian kids that are just trying to live a life in our country as they're going to school. People that are working in the factories

and you have all these, they're all these anecdotes. We shouldn't even have to say them, people that are going to work. - People who have been here for like 16 years at this point since the 2010 earthquake. Like, we'll send them back to light.

- We'll also like, the idea that this is, somehow a good thing for us, like, it doesn't do anything good for us. It doesn't add anything to remove people from this country. It just doesn't, like, like this.

Like, it doesn't, it doesn't add anything. It detracts from us, and it detracts from who we are. Who I want us to be more accurately, because this is actually who we are right now. - I have to give you a counterpoint, Jane.

I'm making Killy, who's usually right around us in the podcast rankings. So people will listen to that show. She had a different take in you on the Haitian... - Of course you did.

- immigrants and I'd like to play that for you. - Look, this has been going on for over a dozen years. Go home, get out. We know our country's better than yours. That's because we filled it with our work ethic

and our culture and our values. You being here only delutes it for us, those who built it and live it. And half of you people more than have. You won't assimilate.

We don't want you. We don't care if you're offended. Get out, go home, go back to fucking Haiti, sorry. I'm just, I'm thinking about our friends in Ohio, who've been dealing with these TPS Haitians.

For years now, who are drunk driving all over their towns and killing people, this is the whole cats and dogs thing, like they don't want to live, like Americans live. - You know, how American stand a thwart drunk driving. That is something Americans don't drunk drive.

“That's why there hasn't been a year's long campaign”

to get people to stop drunk driving. And there isn't a little device that sometimes court officers will put in your car that you have to blow into before you can start your car, because Americans don't drunk drive.

and this is kind of a wider thing,

is she is vice-signally. This is like, yeah, fuck you. I hate everybody. I'm a terrible person, and I'm gonna perform that, because, oh, I'm just standing up for our friends in Ohio.

Like, 'cause, you know, Megan Kelly, who is a extraordinarily wealthy woman, who has been an extraordinarily wealthy woman for a very long time, is also, you're just a ground in Springfield, Ohio.

Because I am sure that she is spending a lot of time just with everyday folks in Springfield, Ohio. And I'm sure she's not just getting emails from people who are already mad about it, who are also listeners of the Megan Kelly show.

You know, she's getting, like, real deal contextual information, from a good people of Springfield, Ohio. This is a woman who once complained about a trans woman appearing on Kim Petrus.

Popstar, appearing in sports illustrated swim suit issue,

because she was upset, because what if her sons wanted

“to masturbate to the sports illustrated swim suit issue?”

And they saw Kim Petrus, and they couldn't do it. Wouldn't that be sad, Kim? Wouldn't that be so sad? It would be very sad. - Thank you're kind of nice to Megan Kelly there,

because what Megan Kelly is doing is she's being a rancid bitch. It's what she's doing. I'm sorry, like that is all she's doing. She's like, you can call it viseignaling.

That's just fainted, like the Winnie the Poo in the Tuxedo. Version of what she's doing, but she's being a rancid bitch. And she, there's no shame-- - But it's a performance for a long performance. It's like, this is what, this is what we want.

Like, this is what we want to hear from you. We want to hear from you yelling at Mark Levin about-- - Who's my cropping hat?

- God knows what, and it will benefit you

financially to do this. If it didn't, she wouldn't be doing it. And you were a call. I mean, the thing with Megan Kelly specifically is that we have evidence of all of this,

“because do you remember when she was working for NBC?”

- Yeah, it was a totally different character. - Totally different. - Totally different. - She was like loving trans children. - Very terrible.

- Everyone the show. - Yeah. - She was like the soft morning, mom after school drop off. - Yeah, let's clap.

- I'm talking about, yeah. - Clapings? - Did the wine dancing, but she is perpetrating a lie that is underscoring the tragedy that's happening to these people that are being set back to Haiti,

for no reason, or the being managed by our government, for no reason to the world in the country, working hard, going to church, raising their families. I guess what was happening, but not most of the Haitians in Springfield, Ohio.

And like this idea, I'm going to kind of steal a line from Barack Obama idea that there's this great American culture. And it's like, we built this. So maybe you didn't build shit. Like she has not built any lasting cultural touchdown.

And she's added nothing to the culture. All she's trying to do is rip the country apart, undermine what made America special. At the idea that Haitians haven't contributed anything to American culture, as a New Orleans resident,

I do have to object to this notion, because New Orleans is Alabama without Haitians. That's what New Orleans is. Like the Creole culture is New Orleans.

“And like that, I think, has enriched the country quite a bit.”

It's added a lot of, you know, a lot of spice to the gum, though. You know, there've been a lot of great Haitians. But I've got Blake Griffin, you know, there was the Pierre II son, she might be famous.

She lives in New York. She's pretending to be a Catholic, founder of Catholic Charities. And she's like, this fucking idea that it's like, oh, we did, we didn't, she hasn't done anything. She's sitting on your basement in your,

in your mansion, and you, and you yell at people for money. Yeah, no, there's something, you know, a concept that I find, I mean, you see it across different groups. But it's kind of like a stolen valour thing. And this is stolen white people valour.

Yes, true. Like, you know, my ancestors, I'm like, did they? Maybe they did, I don't know. I don't know. She probably contributed more than Megan Kelly has to the culture.

I don't know. Maybe this with kind of like, you know, like, you get stolen penis valour, where it's like, man or like, oh, we are all, you know, virtually stronger than every woman.

And I'm like, sir, I've watched, you know, I've seen you get vested by a large bag of rice at Costco. So like, let's just, you know, let's simmer down a little bit on this one. But yeah, no, it's awful.

But it's awful, it's garbage, and it's what we're doing right now. And it's what we're performing again to the world. And you know, I mentioned this on my show yesterday that like we have this simultaneous, like, people are here for the world cup,

and everybody's having a great time, and people are like getting along and doing stuff. - And this isn't conservative media, too. For people who don't consume conservative media, like, this is like a bitch dick for them right now.

- That's like, everyone gets along and everybody's show. - To that point, including fans of Hades National Soccer Team,

And you have Haitian Americans who are here supporting their team.

They are, you know, they're celebrating, they, you know, they're having dance offs with Scottish fans. Like, it's great, and it's like, that is, and you have conservative media being like, yeah, everybody loves us, it's so great.

But like, you gotta get the fuck out of here. Like, it's a fascinating duality. - It is. Our mutual friend Larry, Haitian descent, was that one of those games.

“I think he's brought more to the culture than Megan Kelly.”

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So it's sort of like, it's kind of complicated and how you say this.

Like the victims of a story like you're never pure,

you know, you want your victims to be mother-trista. The victims in this story did some things that were wrong, but the way that they're being treated by the government is fucking outrageous and so on. It's also like the way that they are being portrayed

in media, which is again.

“Yeah, it's outrageous and especially because like one,”

it's led to some of the most irritating people on earth and gloating about it. But also the degree to which so what we're talking about. Yeah, let me just give it a break down.

Yeah, we're actually talking about what we're talking about. I'm sorry. Yeah, our fucking dangerous up, okay. Listeners, sometimes our danger gets up before we tell you what we're talking about.

For the July last year, protesters went to the Prairie Land Ice Facility in Texas for protest. It was disruptive. It was not that they were shooting fireworks.

They're doing graffiti. They flashed some tires on the government van. You should not do that. And they're asked to disperse. Many of them did not comply.

A federal agent of life pulled out a gun. One of the protesters who had taken a rifle to the protest,

second amendment, hell, yeah, shot and wounded,

but didn't kill the officer to pull the gun. You should not do that. The government prosecuted them, though, 22 protesters, not just the one. Including people who were not there.

That's something that's important here. People who were not present for this event. Nine of the protesters were prosecuted under this material support for terrorism. Executive order, the Trump signed last year,

which is going after it. Which has got to be very undercovered. The reporter can clip and stay and has been all over this. But yeah, it's gotten very undercovered, but yet. So they're getting hit with these terrorism charges.

So these nine people, their Senate's range from 30 to 100 years. 30 to 100, many of the listeners got mad at me for what they considered one of my worst takes besides the decoration of the Oval Office,

which was that I thought that the QAnon Shaman sentence was too harsh. He got like three years. Okay, these people got 32, 100 years for anti-veterism. The government alleged that eight of the convicted

protesters belong to North Texas and Tifa. In the case of one of the couple, the government relied on his evidence, their own day printing press. Story from like the Weather Underground.

Use to print an arcasines. Yes. An arcasines. One of the defendants? This is the guy you mentioned that ought to go.

And one of the defendants, which he just mentioned, Daniel, it goes by death. Sanchez Estrada didn't even attend the protest, as you mentioned, his wife did. She called him from jail after the arrest.

The government recorded the call. Soon after he was stopped by police, he was moving a box of these zines from his home.

They had tattoo flashlights.

“They're entered into the prosecutions, exhibit files.”

And now this guy has been convicted of terrorism for the zines. Again, one, zines. It's an extremely like 1993, which, okay, that's fine. Again, this person was prosecuted for moving a box of anarchist zines.

Now, I can't laugh. You want to laugh though. No, no, no, you want to laugh because of the word zines, because it makes me feel like we're doing like a very special episode of Blossom.

Would watch that episode of Blossom to be clear. But we are talking about someone who was prosecuted for terrorism, for moving a box of zines. And it's been interesting how this case is discussed in conservative media, and in the media more generally,

we're just like, ah, like, you know, they were colluding to do Marxist terrorism, which like one, it is legal to be a Marxist. Just like it is legal in the United States to be a white nationalist, completely legal.

Now, will the FBI spend a lot of time listening to your phone calls and trying to encourage you to move guns across state lines? Yes, so remember, if anyone is excited

about you doing crimes, it's always a fit, every time.

They know one wants to help you do crimes. That's like a really important lesson that I always want everybody to take away. Nobody wants to help you do crimes. But also, it's completely legal.

“It is completely legal to have a politics that I think sucks.”

It's totally legal. And the idea that this is doing anything to foment national security, writ large, is mind-bendingly stupid. Like it just is.

This is all happening also while there still is to be clear, as far as I know, that maga slash fund for Jan six people. Jan six defenders, well, I mean, of course they will. They were all make the point of like,

you know, somebody even didn't even do anything. The cops just let them in and all this other stuff and then they had to deal with like years and years of prison. And there is a version of all of this.

And I'm reminded of how just after January six, you get, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene complaining about like jail conditions and a bunch of like libertarians being like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, wow, you know.

There were some people that got too harsh of sentences that didn't do anything. And Jamie says that just where they are and walking around that was that is true. That happened.

That was not a disaster. That was not a majority of the people there. There were lots of people who were tasting cops. And then, you know, telling the victims of their sexual abuse, of those people that they would be getting money

from the government and they would just pay them off. That's a side note. So you have all of these people who were like, oh, you know, the government went so hard after us after this.

And then you have this happening. And they're like, but that's fine. Do you do? That's all. Have we heard from Julie Kelly?

Have we heard from any of the, any of the, no, like, big activists on behalf of the January six choir. Have we heard from Matt Gates? What about Marjorie?

She's out. Have we even heard from NTG about this? So maybe she might have. I might want to give NTG about it for the doubt. If you have MTG's email or phone number out there,

please ask her about this story. I don't. But like, this is crazy. No, it is insane. It's objectively insane.

When you've got a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And when you believe that you have this thing, Antifa, you know, you have created it into being an overarching terrorist network, the likes of which we have not seen since, you know, al-Qaeda or ISIS.

Well, everything starts to look like Eva Lantifa al-Qaeda ISIS, including someone moving a box of zines out of their house. Now, we can easily do this for any number of groups where, you know, they're moving,

what nationalist literature? You know, there's lots of that. You have some guy moving, like, printed copies of siege or the Turner diaries, or any number of things, like, atom valve and division, any number of these things.

And then I'm sure you would see people arguing many of these same people that, like, you know, it's not a crime to have these

beliefs, you know, they're moving less like the first

amendments under threat. Remember this whole thing, but how my extreme is used. My first use under threat, because Facebook, a private company, deleted my post or canceled by a count.

“Because that's why we have a rid of section 230.”

Because it, you know, life is very hard for me, personally. This is a very commonly expressed view on the right, including by, like, the richest man in the world, talks about this a lot.

There's this great censorship. It's an attack on the first amendment. This is a guy who's been putting jail for 30 to 100 years for leftist disease. Like, where the fuck is he on?

Like, where is that? Where is the outrage about this? It is-- - He's very, very attempting to film at race war

He's got a lot to do over there.

- And so I don't know. I mean, the guy, the shot the cop, the details are of this, and obviously, this was very stupid. And this is not what they should do,

“and you should be punished if it is in the law.”

But it's like, the same people that came to Kyle Rittenhouse was defense when he showed up to protest with a gun, like, that are doing the standard ground nonsense, that are talking about how they're rights or being a bridge by the government.

Like, to now want to throw the book at, I kind of some weird lefty guys that wanted to do, or Ernest's protests outside of the isolation facility. I mean, talking about the fuck, I guess it's stupid. - Yeah, no, I mean, it's a personal libertarianism.

It's like, I should be able to do whatever I want, and you should have to do whatever I want you to. - Say, whatever I said. - Yeah, whatever I said. - No, that's right.

- That's it. - That's really good.

- Okay, well, I want to keep talking about this

because, you know, unfortunately, we're gonna need, I don't know, a geolive fourth Texas choir, probably for these people, so they can get pardoned by President John Ossoff, or whatever, in 2021, I've got a willing, but it's a fucking sick story.

Really quick aside, I just wanted to mention that the story, it's kind of hard to get to get everything happening in the news, but like this is also this pretty shockingly or time story about one of them in a soda protestors,

Paul Johnson, a couple of days ago now. This is according to Johnson, I know he's a net to believe him, plenty of reason not to believe DHS. Johnson says he was, he laid for hours in a hospital bed

in Minneapolis, Wuzzi from pain pills and adult from the headblows that he said he received from federal agents. He was alone, he's unable to communicate with anyone and he was strapped in place by shackles on his leg.

He was there in the hospital for five days, and the story is, it's horrific, it's like monstrous. And like, they're just like examples of this stuff happening everywhere. - It's interesting how you go back

of fourth, I mean, the overarching message I keep having over the last couple of years is that the people are full of shit this whole time. And so the same people who were like, you just can't trust the Biden administration,

you can't believe what the government says to you. That kind of like new world order, Alex Jones thing, where they're all like, well, DHS said that they were all very dangerous and that this is all, this is all 100% true.

- Well, this is the Tim Dylan line, which is like Alex Jones was right. It's just everything he was warning about.

- When he's gonna finally find out.

- He's gonna totally find out. - But yeah, no, it's a... Ah, uncool. - Well, I wanna move on to one quick news item as for that one mentioned all week,

is the housing bill drama. People haven't been following it. Basically, it's like the one bipartisan thing the Congress has done in the year 26. Great job to our friends on the hill.

Woo, we, they've been working hard.

“They got in, they did like, I think a good 42 days”

of work this year in the Senate. I'm making the number up, it's something like that. Now, they got one bill, work together on it. It's for housing and could some good stuff to help. - And a lot of compromises.

- A lot of compromises. It includes a little bit of slop, popular slop, but that's what you gotta do these days to get things through. - Yeah, that's how you, you add to it.

- On balance, pretty good bill. - And it's funny because on balance, it was so good that you have Elizabeth Warren being like, yeah, and the Trump White House, until, you know, everything changed very quickly.

- Sit, yeah, and then, and then that changed. - And even like some middle-to-middle therapy, like everybody, so the whole, so I think I'm like, well, it's like, yeah, it's like, okay. - Yeah, okay, so this week, Trump is like,

panties are in a bunch, because he's in a couple of kissing matches with random senators, like, they'll cast it in others, and he's mad that the save act isn't passed, he thinks he thinks that the save act

is gonna help him steal the mid-terms. I'm like, scoped to go about that, we should talk about that if you want, but it's a really bad bill, but I don't even know if Trump really understands what's in it,

I'm pretty sure Trump just thinks that this will help me steal the elections bill. - Yes, which he keeps saying that, even though, like, just like, one aside is that, like, part of it is that, you know,

you would need a passport or a birth certificate to register to vote, and I don't know,

“and I think Matthew Glysses has made that point.”

I don't know if Trump knows who in America has passed forward. - That's correct. - Just gonna say that. - I'm interested in that count. I feel like we can only do two compromise bills all year,

the housing bill and passport only voting. Our things that I would be interested in, we'll put that, tell me more. - Tell me more. - Tell me more. I'd like to learn more about your passport only voting idea.

I just see how that turns out. I should give that a test run. Because the save act hasn't been passed. Trump said, "No, fuck it, I'm not gonna sign your housing bill." That his administration said they supported it.

They literally had, like, all these house Republicans want is to get into a picture with Mr. Trump

and be able to show the picture to their friends

and post it on their Instagram, so I can be like, "See daddy, like me, that's all they want in life."

“- Yes, they want to go, and they want something to campaign on.”

They want something to campaign on because everybody's fucking furious. Like, they don't think, they're gonna have to go. I mean, they're probably not gonna do town halls, 'cause they don't wanna get screened at

about how data centers are gonna, I don't know, kill our children or something like that. They don't wanna deal with this. Like, if you live in Utah, you're aware that that Kevin O'Leary data center

has caused everyone to lose their minds completely and it's scrambling everything. You just wanna be like, "Howsing, we did it." You said you were worried about affordability here. Here.

- We did it. - They had this whole event set up. They had this set up, they had the stanchion. People, like, Republicans were showing up. Republicans were, like, speaking at the same time

being like, "We did it, we did it. This is so awesome," or so excited. And then Trump said, "No, no." - Not gonna show up to that.

I'm gonna say back first.

So that went back and forth this week, a little bit where Atlanta is speaker, Johnson,

“showed, maybe, like, the tiniest little bit”

of stood up for himself, the wee little man. And so they ended up just going ahead and without fanfare, passing the bill, Johnson is gonna, he sent it along to the White House, whatever. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't want you to do it

to do that. I was never held guy. I said this yesterday. I'm a little bit out of my dump on parliamentarian. - He said he transmitted it to the White House,

I don't know how Johnson lives in hell. - Do you gotta hand it? - Mike Johnson lives in hell. - So it's been transmitted, I don't know how he's been told me after the podcast, how he,

how he'll transmits to the White House, but it gets transmitted somehow. Transmitted over there to the White House. Now, Trump has 10 days, and he can veto it. He could sign it.

He could do a press conference. He could do nothing, that the automatically becomes like. He could do nothing if the House is not in session, then it becomes a pocket veto.

Who knows, we'll see how this turns out. I think Trump likes it as a cliffhanger for the next episode of the apprentice and that's where we're at on the House and Bill. - Okay.

Let's do some JD talk. - Fun.

- So, where should we go first?

You'd mention the Vice-Signoing, let's make him Kelly. - It was, what you was doing was an example of Vice-Signoing, but maybe not quite as apt of an example as what JD offered yesterday. That's the Vice-President was giving an interview

at the Richard Nixon Foundation, and he has some updated thoughts on Tricky Dick. Let's listen. - I think that his historical legacy is enjoying a bit of a renaissance,

but I think deservedly so. As I joked with Robert backstage, if Watergate happened tomorrow, it would be like a 12 hour news story. Like the idea that it would have taken down

a presidency is crazy. And by the way, if you look at the story of how the deep state took down Richard Nixon, it's not all that different from what the same groups of people, the same institutions tried to do

to Donald Trump in the first Trump administration. There is a paralyzed. (audience applauding) - See, that there he's at the Nixon Foundation. So this was a planned bit.

- Yes. - The plan, it was like, you know what, I'm gonna go to the Nixon Foundation, and I'm gonna talk about how Watergate not a big deal.

Most of our listeners are my ager older. Not at all, we appreciate all the youngs out there.

“And so they either remember learned about”

or lived Watergate. There's some who might not have. So I just want to give a quick refresher, just to one paragraph of refresher on what happened at Watergate.

- Because I don't think JDVans knows. That's the other thing. I don't think he has any idea at Watergate. - Because the deep state did play a role. The deep state did play a role in Watergate.

They just, the opposite of the role that he thinks. So, Mr. Nixon's aides authorized a break-in of the DNC headquarters to install bugging equipment. They were going to bug their opponents. They hired some really motley characters to do this,

and they weren't particularly good at their jobs. So they got caught. - Yes. - Then, the Nixon White House, and listed the CIA to help create a cover story

because like, dudes have just got out and their investigations into it. They didn't want that. Yeah, they don't want the cops looking into it. So the CIA, like guys, don't worry about this.

This was a part of the plan. We're doing some spying on some terrorists. Maybe they're in Tifa, who knows. - Okay. The whole operation was paid for by a slush fund out of the White House.

The Chief of Staff knew about the AG knew about it. They both were convicted when to jail. The president knew about it. You know how we know? There were tapes.

The president was talking about it. So the president was colluding with the deep state to help him cover up his plot to spy on his political flows. That was Watergate. That's what happened at Watergate.

So pretty big story, pretty bad. - I think personally, if Donald Trump colluded with the CIA and the thing isn't the more I say

I'm like, "Yeah, it seems like something he'd do."

- 100%. - Yeah. - Like the, you know, hiring, I mean, based on this whole reflecting pool thing. Yeah, he would hire a motley crew to break into the DNC.

And install, like, all of this 100% checks out. But it also, like, like, the idea that that would just be, like, a 12-hour story. One, I don't really think that there are, like, 12-hour stories anymore.

“Like, I think that Trady Vance desperately wishes that there were,”

but like, you know, we're still talking about Jeffrey Epstein. For example, Jeffrey Epstein is not a 12-hour story. Jeffrey Epstein has been a multi-year saga. And it's Donald Trump's fault. - I mean, I guess Donald Trump keeping his classified

docks in his bathroom was a shorter story than maybe if past presidents had done that, 'cause he's done so many other crimes. So, like, Jamie Vance, I guess, is maybe-- - I mean, it raised a lot of question.

- I mean, it raised a lot of question.

- It is true that the boss that he works for has done so many crimes that they end up not getting the attention that they might have got it on a past era, and that if they didn't water gate right now, that it would get maybe less attention

than it did for Nixon in part because they're doing so many other crimes and in part because they have a massive propaganda operatists that would have tried to make it seem like it wasn't a big deal. Like, that part is true.

- Right. - So, he is correct about that. I don't know if it's the compliment that he thinks it is, really. - No, no. Also, like, it's just funny because Richard Nixon,

they're just like the right-wing rehabilitation of Richard Nixon, which is been going on for a while. Like, Roger Stone has some giant Nixon tattoos. - But not very well. Also, I don't like to object to that.

- I don't think that there's a Renaissance. - No, there's not a Renaissance or something because you just have to, like, if you're on the far right, you just have to strategically be like, yeah, I'm the creation of the environmental protection agency

and Nixon having his own like, cabinet of African-American advisors and doing a lengthy profile and interview with Ebony Magazine about how much he believes and wants to do more for African-Americans and he thinks

that Republicans have left African-Americans behind. This is entirely true. You can go find that article. - There's just a lot of stuff where you just have to pretend that Richard Nixon is the Richard Nixon of like,

the campaign of 1968 and also not the Richard Nixon of what his presidency did or anything else about him. And also, the Richard Nixon who, again, hired dipshits to break into the DNC. Like, the break-in is not like,

you know, obviously it's very interesting, but like if you'd follow like the TikTok of how all this happened,

“you're like, I think that the quote from all the president's men”

is just, you know, from deep throat is pretty much like, you know, I'm paraphrasing,

but it's basically like these were stupid people

and it just went too far. - They used to know it. - It got out of hand. - It got out of hand. Got a hand.

- Yep. - These weren't very smart people and it got out of hand. That's what I have in my memory. I don't know if that's exactly right,

but it's something like that. I'm sorry to be stuck on this. The vice president of the state's doing a bit where he's like, you know, this crime that had passed president commit it.

Where they tried to spy on their opponents. They tried to break into their opponents headquarters. They tried to use the CIA to cover it up, not a biggie. Like, that is pretty shocking in itself. Like that should be a 12-hour story on its own.

Like the vice president of the state's like, what are you signaling there? Is he's like, you know, we can do crimes. It's not a biggie anymore. We're post crime now.

We're used to be a country where people cared if the president vice president did crimes. We're not that country anymore. Thanks to the greatness of Donald Trump. Thanks to the Trump Vance administration.

- Yeah. - The government can be corrupt and do crimes. - And we're not trying to talk about it. - It's a pro crime. - We can do a history.

- We can do it. Now, people in the streets, if you're protesting with your scenes, you can't do that, but we can do crimes. That's their state of position. - Yeah, we can, we are pro us crimes.

It's pro us crime. It's also striking showing up at the Nixon foundation and then talking about the most controversial worst thing Nixon ever did. It would be like going to like, you know,

the Ronald Reagan Library and being like, "A rom contra rules." It was great. Also, remember how we helped to fund El Salvadorian right wing best squads

that raped and murdered a group of nuns and lay people and then Jean Kirkpatrick lied about them. - That was so cool. - Okay, great, that's turned out.

“Things are going great and I'll sell that over now, right?”

Well, Ron J.D., I've covered this quite a bit, but because, you know, we have the Catholic thing together and people just really loved your roominations on, you know, your favorite epistles and saints, eucharistic rights, last time you were on,

we should also just bring up the book, discussed earlier this week, a key part of his conversion story is that God sent him an emissary from heaven.

that smart people could be religious, that messenger was Peter Teele. God works in mysterious ways, and he learned about Peter Teele, he learned about our nature art,

“started doing some reading, and he's like,”

"You know, maybe." (laughs) Looks like I can be rich and bad and Catholic. (laughs) That's neat.

And so he's gone on the faith journey, simultaneously towards his faith to his faith journey to Trumpism. He's written a book about it. - His wife's husband, timing for a faith journey.

- Yeah, wife not on board. Just wondering if you have any, the bellhooks thing is also kind of weird.

Bellhooks' first book is LG Second Book Communion

that's his side, that this is strange subplot. I just kind of wanted to give a let Jane Cook period in response to J.D. Vance's Communion. - I have obviously many thoughts on this. I will say, I'm not sure if I mentioned this last time,

but the Emperor Constantine's conversion to Christianity was less obvious, less of like seeing the cross in the sky and just being like, yeah, I gotta do this in a related note. It's really, I wish he gave me a miracle.

I wish, I honestly, this is insulting. I wish he gave me at least, just it up a little bit. - Yeah, no, at least like, I mean, it's just like there's a lengthy history

of people converting to Catholicism for political reasons. People have converted to Catholicism in order to gain control of Paris, for example,

because Paris is worth a mass.

But like, this may be one of the stupider ones. Like this, like, oh, yeah, I confirmed Rod Dreyer was there, like I converted to Catholicism and the timing just just happened to line up for when I believed that a cultural Catholicism

would be most politically advantageous. And that's not just me saying this. The Wall Street Journal was like, yeah, the conversion narrative seems a little um, politically incentivized to which I'm like, yeah.

- Yes. - Yeah, perhaps, perhaps it was, perhaps it is a bit. But, again, but I actually, I want to get back to... - Dosh. - I want to get back to Ushia,

because I think Ushia Vance has, in the last couple of days, worked her way up to be,

“I believe a comedy queen unintentionally, I think.”

Maybe.

- Can we play the clip of Ushia

so that you're about to reference where she talks about Ushia is not converted in a recent join interview? - Well, I think in some ways, it has been a very personal journey for him.

I grew up in a household, a Hindu household, a very stable household, and I've not felt the same sense of need to seek something different that he has. So, I think the journey has been more in our relationship,

right, trying to understand where he is the different ways he's thinking about things, how that fits into the life that we have together. Unless we're religious journey of my own. - There you go.

Dead pan. - It's just like, dead pan. - Yeah, my family wasn't fucked up, so I didn't have this whole need to go into, like, you know, have a whole journey.

I'm, we were actually just fine, which one, I love that Ushia obviously knows that her family and her herself are targeted by some of the worst elements of human society, and people on the right for being not white

and not Christian, there are people routinely who were like, "Ah, like invaders bullshit." And I just love that she's like, actually, we were solid and stable and normal. Unlike these fucking weirdos over here.

- Not like the White App Elections. I was like, people, my husband, as I've been saying, that it creates an issue with continuity in the country, having all of that no continuity issues in our house,

our Hindu household, just my parents, is good. We ate Indian food, vegetarians, that are... - I'm very, I'm personal, I'm all that I've been doing. - I've done all the right things. - I didn't need, like, a satanic.

- No, tech demon to be a spiritual guy for me because he has spiritually fulfilled already. - And it has an energy that says, "Let go in on here, that I don't need to know more about, didn't need any of that, I'm all good."

Yeah, which, again, I respect her for just having, like, actually, he's the problem. - Yeah. - Which, you know, I respect that, I will respect that. You know, like, people make choices, and I respect that.

- Have you suffered through any of communion? - No, I have not, I'm good, I'm good.

“- I want to make you, can I give you an assignment?”

I kind of want to make you. - Oh, okay, you can give me an assignment, but adult and convergent sectors. - I will read two chapters. If you provide me with a copy of this book

without me having to purchase it via using currency because adult man-- - I agree, that producer answered you read it and created a document for me. - Okay, so we're going to send you some slides.

I love adult man converts to cathalses,

and you'll never guess why.

- To be continued on that. Do we want to do politics stuff?

“We have the Tim Jain, we're going to end with the Tim Jain”

and we're going to help her. Do you have any deep takes, I have here on the DSA, wins in New York and DAC, Chivaldi A, or due to takes, and I've wanted to get to the Roy Cooper at a week where Roy Cooper is just like,

"There's all this discourse out there "about how the Democrat party's becoming socialist "and going off the deep end and weird, but I'm Roy Cooper." And I'm just a good ol' boy from North Carolina, and you know what I think?

I think criminals should go to jail. - This is Roy Cooper, and I have to move this message, and it's like, he's winning by numbers not seen in North Carolina in decades. - For one thing, I think, like,

others have made this point, I think that like,

New York, I know, holds a massive place

in the American cultural and global cultural imagination, and it's been interesting to see how these elections have for either, if you're supportive of them, or if you're like terrified of them, you're like, "This is the future of the Democratic Party."

Meanwhile, you've got lots of other people running and lots of other places where they're just like, we're doing something very different, and that's fine.

“I think that it is important for Democrats to be like,”

"We run where we are, and we work towards what we need." And so, like, something that, you know, to DAC, there was some reporting talking about how there were, a couple of people who mentioned that they voted for her after a moment in which during a debate

with her primary opponent, they asked like, "Oh, you know, how often do you go to the Dominican Republic "and choose you? "I've been in a couple of years, you know, I'm here." And her opponent was like, "Oh, I go all the time."

- Right. - And, you know, people were like,

"Why would you go all the time?" And it kind of gets, like, do you remember during mom Donnie's debate? - Great, this is the summer of the debate, where everybody's like, "When are you gonna go to Israel?"

- Yeah, and it was like, "I will be mayor of New York." That's like, "That's my job, that's the New York. "That's the thing." I mean, I'm not Jewish. That is a experience. - Covered down.

- Yeah, but the degree to which people, you know, Jewish Democrats voting for Brad Lander, who is a Jewish Democrat and people are like, "Yeah, he's a copo." He would be like, "What was the quote from the Republican

or the Cuban editorial candidate that, like, he would be running a concentration camp?" And it's just like, it's interesting. - Actually, somebody has been running a concentration camp. - And like, you know, like, we sent people there.

That's just a fact. I don't think it was Brad Lander was protesting it, actually, it's what happened. - Yeah, and it gets that, like, you know, I made this comparison that like, you know,

the right gets very mad about like, how sometimes people Democrats talk about black conservatives, they've gone, I'm hate this term, 'cause it's repulsive, but like, oh, it got off the plantation or something like that.

And there is a degree to which you see this kind of like, "Hey, why are you making decisions I don't like?" And like, it's a weird dynamic, but there's something, I mean, to the point with the Roy Cooper ad,

where it's just like North Carolina is not New York. Now, I think that you saw in New York and what you're seeing a lot of places is that Democrats are like, "Hey, steps really expensive. We should do stuff about that." - Yeah, and we're sick of the old,

we're seeing this Colorado right now, stuff's really expensive, and they're just sick of old potters that don't feel like you're doing anything. - Yeah, I mean, that's something like, like, we're about to come back to Colorado right now

and he's getting the Janet Mills treatment here, like you're in this gubernatorial right, and it's like... - I think that an understated thing about the Platinum Janet Mills thing is that Janet Mills is 80. - Yeah, right.

- Like, people, I mean, it's been talked about, but maybe not enough, like, the Janet talkercy thing is real.

“- Yeah, I know, I mean, here's the thing.”

- It makes for a good discourse. There's legitimate concerns about the views, a particular that Chivalya has, and I think that there's legitimate concerns about rising a decent amount as a week over that a lot.

- Oh, yeah, two people are also de... Like, the whole thing of like, like, like, the interracial merit, like being against interracial merit, and like, leftist sleep, I'm like, they're all like...

- And just as a general thing, also, this is kind of an under-preciated part of what the campus protests. So like, she was there, and she's in the... I was like, "You're as she's 30."

I mean, okay, like, you're allowed to go to school for 12 years if you want, get a doctorate. I have nothing against anybody who wants to do that, but if you guys a little bit against the spirit of the campus protests to be a 30-year-old,

as a key campus protestor, one main's opinion. Anyway, closing the loop on Roy Cooper, I just want to offer, 'cause we have a lot of discussion. You guys do it crooked. What should the Democrats do in the future?

And I know that, like, what we want to be true

is that people want to be inspired that we need a new path forward and some creative ideas that will make life better for people and we can aspire to a better politics, and I hear all that.

But like, maybe it's a 350 electoral vote win, just to be like, "I'm Roy, Cooper."

“And I think you should, we should love our neighbors”

as we love ourselves, and I think we should put criminals in prison, and I approve this message. And I was, maybe that's good enough. Seems like it's doing pretty well in North Carolina. Democrats haven't won, it's going in a while.

Roy, Cooper, just wants to follow the golden rule and make sure bad guys are behind bars. Don't hate it. All right, here's the Popeye. We're not going to get to everything.

Podcasts has already been long. - Okay. - We've created eight topics that are in the Tim Jane Habbihorse. And we'll go back and forth until the podcast is over. We won't get to all of them.

We want to leave people, leave people a little bit. Something to want to come back for the next time. - Okay. - Topic one is Caitlyn Clark discourse. Topic two is Jane coast in the thought nostalgia theory

is evidenced by vanilla ice. Topic three is the anthropic economist talking about the log utility of human beings. Topic four is Congressman Abe Hamede, Republican from Arizona's interesting living arrangement.

Topic five is Haral Bob, famous gambler, and podcaster and sports team owner. He wants to repeal the 19th Amendment. Topic six is a Jane favorite about how we're hoping it's going to start prosecuting women who have

abortions. Topic seven is Brandon Sorsby's gambling scandal and Topic A is Diana Racinease. Love the Ferris Mike Vrable. Eight great topics.

- We're not going to get to all of them. - You want to start? - No, you start. You're the guest.

You picked the first of the eight.

- Okay, so, coast in nostalgia theory, I will start there. - Take care. - Coast in nostalgia theory and it has proven time tested, which is a funny way to refer to it.

“Do you miss this time or were you young and/or hot at the time?”

So vanilla ice, you remember like the-- - Can I read the quote, do you have it in front of me? - Yes, I do not have it in front of me. - I can read the quote of vanilla ice and I believe it was in the Atlantic

or in the girlfriends of the Atlantic that it's so important reporting on this. And vanilla ice is one of the like two people that said that they would go to Donald Trump stupid fare. And he said this, "I am complete American through and through."

All my bones to every TV show, to blockbuster videos, to ripping our back seats out and putting in subwoofers, to having Zee, Kawarishi pants, to even having a bolo, you remember what a bolo was. - Yes, so the article makes it clear

that vanilla ice believes that the early 1990s over the zenith of human civilization. Now, could it be-- - What's great time? - Good time.

- Pretty good? - I was six, so, and I was not good at being six. I think just a preface this, I am the kind of person who like, I was born to be between the ages of like 35 and 38.

Like that's what I was meant to do that I was meant to like read the New York Times and complain about it.

“Like that's what I was meant to do that.”

It's just that people don't like it when you do that when you're seven. They get very annoyed by it. Anyway, so, vanilla ice reached his personal zenith in the early 1990s.

Most fame, he was dating Madonna. He was like in the-- - Like Basia? - Two Madonna. - Two people, David Madonna mentioned in the show.

It's interesting. - He was in a teenage mutant ninja turtle's movie. I mean, that's that's, you know? - That's good. - Go ninja, go ninja, go like, he had a great time.

And then he stopped having such a good time as the article details. And it makes total sense to me that he would find the time at which he was young, hot, and really famous to be incidentally

the greatest time in American history. And he is not alone in thinking that. And like, I love, and you can tell this because when the greatest time in a human history has slowly moved forward as people get over

and talk on the internet. So if you read the comments on different centrist, right-leaning, left-leaning websites, the commenters all tend to be in general of what I've seen. Like from like national review to the free press

or even like left-leaning sites, the commenters who comment a lot all tend to be in like early 70s. Which means that they were in their 20s in the 70s, like, you know, just about. - Right.

- You will never guess when they think

the greatest time to be alive was Tim.

was like 1977. I consider myself to be an amateur cultural historian. I happen to be aware that in actual life, in 1977 it was not a great time in America. A lot of problems.

We had to lack out to be at the son of Sam. - Stagflation. - Stagflation, a lot of stagflation, a lot of issues. What my favorite example of movies that if you didn't really know what they were about,

you'd think were super happy, but they aren't like Saturday night fever is actually an incredibly depressing movie, banging soundtrack, but like it is telling when people talk about, you know,

you see this with comments, like there's a lot of internet slopp about like, remember how great things were. Nikki Haley did this. Like, do you remember being a child and how free and awesome things were?

We're just gonna get that back, and I'm like, well, you can't, because people can't be 10. There's a user on BlueSky who talks a lot about like, everyone is 12 theory of just people attempting to get back to like being 12 or as I'd argue,

when they were young and hot. And it's like everything is centered around when people were young and hot. The cultural norms, like, oh, you know, when I was 22, I was young and hot

and dating all these people, I don't understand why Gen Z isn't just doing that. And I'm like, well, you are not 22. And your memory is being 22, might be a little loft.

So, co-stained nostalgia theory never fails.

It's always correct. - I love co-stained nostalgia theory, and it isn't. There's the exception, the producer role, and it's a handful of people, such as myself, who have Peter Pan syndrome.

And here's the, and this gives this allows us the, we get a thick skin against, you know, having to deal with the consequences of co-stained nostalgia theory. It has its own percent of problems and some of the commentures

on this very podcast have mentioned, that they noticed some of the negative side effects of Peter Pan that nobody gets out of this world to have some issues. But I was listening to Joe Rogan yesterday

first time in a while. And he has, it was just a classic co-stained nostalgia theory. He just become grumpy old rich guy now. There's no joy of heave, there's no love of life, there's no joy in the podcast.

It's just him bitchin' about how LA isn't as cool as it used to be. And it's like, you know?

- And you'll never guess when LA was at a class.

- When he was hot, you know! And it's like, you know, here's the way to avoid that.

“If you want to do the Steve who's shaming,”

how do you do fellow kids meme? It might look embarrassing, but it makes you stay current. Because for me to acknowledge that the Panthers was better with being that I'm not having a good time now and it's important to me to pretend as if I'm having

a better time now than I was having when I was 22. And in order to do that, I have to look at the positive things that are happening in society. And there are many, because in any culture, there are going to be some good things

and bad things happening at the same time. And so that is how I combat coast and nostalgia theory. I think I'll appear to look into it. - It's very important too, which one should I choose? I'm going to choose Abe Hama Day.

It's ever seen so many texts about this. He's a congressman from Arizona. - The errands shock of our time. - He is a secretary. If people do not know congressman Hama Day,

I'll just recommend the just Google Home really quick. This just important is get a visual of who we're talking about. I've got to meet Abe several times. I was kind of the de facto circus correspondent for the state of Arizona during,

God, I don't know, times of life. So I talked about what would have been the 22 campaign. And so I was in Arizona a lot. Was covering Arizona, he's been a figure.

It's always been, I've always had some questions,

but I don't, I'm not an outer.

“I think everybody should live their truth.”

So it's interesting to see the story came today, or yesterday or other. And I just want to read a little bit from it. First term here is on a Republican Abe Hama Day. It'd been living with a senior male advisor

at his Capitol Hill residence. He'll describe the relationship as closer than a typical member staffer dynamic. The staffer had been a real editor previously. On May 5, 2020, founder of Hama Day

missed floor votes while on vacation in California. What the staffer? I'm sure he posted about on his private Instagram. So people are asking me, what do I know? I don't know anything besides what is in the story,

and besides what I can see with my eyes, and what you can see with your eyes, if you Google it. And so up until the moment where Abe Hama Day sends me a dick pick in DMs, I'm going to assume that he is straight and have a really weird relationship

with the former real editor, it is a senior staffer in his office. And I'm taking no further questions at this time. Jane, do you have anything to add? I would just say that at no point is living with having a close relationship

“with senior staffer good, I think that that goes across all orientations.”

I think we can all agree. Like, there's a version of the story in which the senior staffer in question is a woman, and it's still be like, well, that's screwed up. Don't do that, none of it. Also, like, again, part of the reason why I make the Aaron Schock comparison

And also because the Aaron Schock story, maybe one of my absolute favorites,

“it is a congressman, brought low, brought a thunder by an interior decorator”

who, so this is like 11 years ago. So Aaron Schock representative, he has redecorated his office. And watching to post reporter is there to do something. And the interior decorator is also there. And she's like, hey, do you want a tour?

And, look, and that resulted-- And it was it down to Nabby theme. It was it down to Nabby theme, which, again, not casting dispersions, should have been a tell. You might be starting to know that Aaron Schock came out like several years later.

He came out, and now he's like an instigate with Gassels. And he got into a weird, there's a weird Venezuelan scandal with him. He's trying to get in under the Venezuelan cash. Of course. Much a lot of the people of Venezuela, by the horrific earthquakes.

Absolutely. But yeah, the interior decorator brought his entire political life down, which is funny. All right.

We're over, but I don't-- I want to don't want to deny people six of the topics.

We'll go rapid fire on the final two. Each could depict one short, we're going to have to just try to contain ourselves. And we'll leave the other four for a future date, WNBA, AI Utils, 19th Amendment, prosecuting women, Brandon Soar's Bay, Diana Racini, Jane Custon, pledge your final choice. WNBA needs to do a better job of cutting down on fouls.

They've been trying to, but not really. Also, it's telling whenever people talk about Caitlyn Clark.

“It's always people for whom I'm like, can you name other white heterosexual WNBA players?”

Or maybe WNBA player. The Caitlyn Clark discourse pisses me off so much because it's like, hey, maybe it is true. I try to watch the WNBA. I've my complete WNBA is like, the season timing is weird. I'm a prime possible audience member, and it's-- it do make it kind of challenging for me to get into it.

I'm doing-- I think that the market-- there could be ways that they could improve on the marketing side of things that's a fair critique. I know, well, also say, like, their games are blowing up like the, you know, viewership is off. Everything's up.

They're doing great. They do have all these lines. They do have all these lines. They're like, hey, I don't watch the WNBA, but they seem mean to Caitlyn Clark. Boomersize, and did a rant is our girl, Caitlyn Clark should go to Europe because WNBAs

to meet girls. Do you know any other WNBA players, boomersize, and-- Also, this idea of like, no, oh, like, Caitlyn Clark should go starter-owned league. Does Caitlyn Clark want to do that? No, she does not.

She does not care about any of that. But the WNBA needs to do a better job of fouling, because it's not just a Caitlyn Clark issue. Like, there was like an angel respirtony grant, or wrap up a couple of months ago, like, or a couple of weeks ago, that was like, the fouling issue was a problem. They have either been calling no fouls, and then things go really hard, or the calling too many

fouls, and the game's good slow. It's not great. But also, there's lots of interesting and great play going on, shout out to the Washington. Mystics. I have one more thing on Caitlyn.

Okay. Caitlyn Clark. My daughter's Caitlyn Clark Jersey. Watched her out in college. I'm more into college women's--whoops, I kind of only know the players if they were famous

in college. And I googled this, because I try not to. And this podcast that I'm Twitter make race, rage-bading comments about things that I don't know anything about, which is like the entire kick on Clark discourse. You'll know nothing about the league that like have decided that people are reverse races

against her. I googled it.

She's currently the second leading score on her team, they're in third place in the

conference. It's like, okay, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. It's fine. It's good.

And she's just--she's kind of like the Jamal Murray right now of the down on the UNDA. It's like--and that's okay. And on the actual numbers. And so we'll see how it turns out. And I feel like if the Indiana fever win the championship and she is a Jalen Brunson run,

she's going to get lots of love. The whole thing is crazy. Don't this idea that people are so-- It's absolutely ridiculous. And it also like the degree--like I am bound to say this, the Lesbaphobia just jumps out.

Where it's just like all these evil lesbians who are just common at or like, you know, a straight girl. Yeah, like this quote--yeah, because there's no other straight women and also that--it's just--it is indicative where it's like, you know, there's a permission to let people write themselves to be Lesbaphobia because it's like, no, no, no, no, I'm doing it because I'm defending--some

women--some women. Yeah. Defending women. Hm-hm. Many such cases.

I do also want to jump speaking of defending women and defending just like normalcy. And there's like two are gambling, mavericks on her repeal the 19th guy, who actually--he then shared that he lives in a principality with an actual prince who doesn't care about democracy anyway. There's been this kind of boom-lit, not just him, of people talking about repealing the 19th

amendment. A thing that will not happen. Can I just pull up his tweet? And if we're going to do it, we should at least pull up pics.

“It's important for you to--me and her all about gotten to a couple fights associated”

with me. He used to be on the bill. 7th podcast. He's now on just like-- Yeah, he's now on public tour, sure.

Yeah, he's now on the soccer team and you're out of you as a map.

So he's a figure for people who are--come in. They tend to not want to. All right. He was replying to somebody talking about how terrorist sympathizers are taking over the Democratic Party. Because this is a direct result of the 19th amendment.

It permanently altered the electorate and powered the politics of emotion over order.

“Because that's what I think of my think of Trump.”

Accelerated the march towards open borders, welfare status of the erosion of every tradition on substitution that once made the country governable. Democracy went wrong when it made the lonely individual the basic political unit. The family should be the unit of representation. One vote per household and of the household raising children.

You will be surprised to learn that her all-bob has not found a mate. You will see him frequently sitting court-side at NBA games with young-looking women, which is great. Good for him, young women, but he is not found a mate. And I don't know.

I think that's just an interesting fact to mention in connection to his opinion about the 19th amendment. It's interesting that people are deciding that it's been a hundred and six years since the passage of the 19th amendment. And then they're like, "This is the issue. This is the problem here." So I'm like, "So we need to conclude that every election from 1920."

Like things really Herbert Hoover, okay, no, they're best president. But like every election since then. The greatest generation. Like the every midterm election. Like the election of 1948.

Or the election of 1952, like off only women hadn't voted then. I want to meet the people also who are want to repeal the 19th amendment when something they do like happens. Like it really is just the most like fuck this. I'm taking my ball and going home argument.

Like one, it will not never happen.

It's like tankyism, but somehow stupider. Like this idea of like this politics that is so pure that and so perfect that it will just simply never happen. But also it's telling that like, "Could I convince women of my political views?" Because lots of women vote for Republicans. A lot of women are on the right.

Fewer than they used to be. I wonder why. But it is telling that the idea of like, "Oh, you know, we cannot, you know, women are just too emotional to understand how important it is that we vote for extremely emotional Republicans. Like Republicans who just rant and rave all day emotionally on the internet.

Like we just do it. Like it's like a failure of imagination. Like there's just no way we could convince these people to vote for us. I mean, that's, it's loser talk. It's like we can't, we can't win, so we just won't.

We just won't do it. And it's, you know, I will point out there's a national review piece from a couple like from after Mom Donny one that actually made the point that like Democrats are trying to reach out to young men.

“It might not be working in a lot of ways, but you know, I think they're getting better at it.”

They're working on it. There's a whole thing.

Republicans have basically decided like, we just really don't like women.

Like we just don't like them. I would prefer they don't vote. And then they basically want, they basically just want to nag women into voting for them. Just being like, oh, you know, you, you, like, we don't like women. Except for like the specific women who all talk about how terrible women are.

I mean, it kind of goes with the like we're going to punish women who have abortion saying, which you could everybody in their dog could have seen. Like you could see this in the conversation about like even in conservative writing. So the reason why they don't support in prisoning women for having abortions is isn't because that would be evil and wrong.

But because the polling is bad. Like, you know, if it were evil and wrong. Like, then that was like, you know, the whole house of parents were full down. But it's like, no, no, no, we can't say we can't do that. The polling is bad.

And so now you have for these people in the right for like, well, you know, it just makes sense. And I'm like, you know, I wrote about this in 2022.

“Like, how will we punish the women who have abortions?”

Like, you know, if that was when the leaked ups decision came out. And there was actually a national review piece that was like, responding to that question.

And the answer was like, well, that's never happened.

So it just won't. We just don't even have to think about it. It's just so far away. We don't even have to think about it. And now the only answer you get from the right on this issue is it would be unpopular to do so.

Not that it would be wrong, but that it would be unpopular. Once again, these people are ridiculous. This is all very stupid and women are cool. All right. So well, I agree with all that.

I will leave you a test. If we want to any text, because I'm just going to leave it with the quotes, I think it speaks for itself on the AIU tells topic. If you're concerned about any of the topics, me and Jane have been discussing today, I've got something to ease your mind for the weekend. The new economist at Anthropic did a paper a couple years ago.

That included this summation. In other words, with the log utility, it is optimal to take a one in three chance of ending human existence.

So great. Great, guys. Two thirds chance.

Everything's going to be wonderful.

Milk and honey, unlimited bounty.

One third chance, we're all dead.

We'll see you all next week.

Thank you to Jane Kostin.

Appreciate you so much.

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