Sam Stein: The Ridiculously Unserious President

Hello and welcome to the board podcast, I'm your host Tim Miller.

It is Thursday, March the 12th. I want to bring a little comfort food, a little porridge, a little ice cream. You know, whatever it is, that makes you feel good inside. A little crawfish at buffet and it is my friend and years of managing editor of the bowlwork, Samuel Stein.

How you doing? >> Good, every one of those is great except for porridge. I don't want to, why would porridge come to mind? I don't know, I don't know, where it porridge comes from. >> When's the last time you had porridge, Tim?

>> I can't recall. >> I was last time I had porridge. >> What's your middle name, I was going to do your middle name, it's Ignatius. >> No, it's, do we have to? >> Ignatius would be Catholic.

>> So, it's something Jewish. >> What's an Jewish name? >> My name. >> My middle name for Jewish. >> There's a good story there, it's short, my middle name is Irving.

It's named after my grandfather Irving Fine, who was a famous composer in his day, tragically died at the age of 49. But look him up, good friends with Aaron Copeland, Leonard Bernstein. He wrote some great classical music bits, started the music program at Brandice. >> Well, Stein family history for you.

>> Well, it seems fake, and it seems like as your parents are just big Irving Crystal Aquilites. And we're trying to come up with a different reason you don't want to give Bill the credit. We have lots to talk about, you said you're nervous. >> Yeah.

“>> Do you want to talk about why before we go to the news?”

>> So I listened to the podcast today with Sager, and I feel like, he's like a seven-course meal-type guest, he's talking about that missiles, and he's reading the front pages of the Korean press, and he's got all these analogies to, you know, one more life he's doing. >> He's doing general Westmoreland spits. >> Yeah.

>> And I'm like Dejornos, like you're going to enjoy it, but you're going to, it's not good for you. And so I'm a little bit worried. My intellect is not on level, and yeah, I woke up a little bit early today in sweats thinking about this.

>> Yeah. Here's an important thing, Sam, there's a difference between intellect and wisdom. >> Well, I don't have anything to do with it. >> I think there was a shortage of the latter, but we appreciate it, I'm coming on. >> Now he was great. Let's talk about the news, we're still at war with Iran, we're still climbing the mountain

of conflict, we're still having a, what did Trump call it, excursion, an incursion, I think is what he meant.

“>> Yeah, he means incursion, I think he just doesn't, he doesn't understand the difference”

between the words or no one's bothered to correct him or both, but he definitely means incursion, and he keeps saying excursion. >> Yeah, an excursion is like, like we're taking a short bit of incursion to the buy you. >> With a porridge. >> Yeah.

>> That's a porridge. >> Yeah, it's not, we're doing an incursion. Okay, so here's the latest from the incursion excursion. Yesterday, Iraq and Oman closed oil terminals after two tankers were attacked. And left burning off Iraq's coast.

The IEA set on Thursday that the war is caused the largest supply disruption in the history of the global oil market, 800,000 people were displaced in Lebanon amid continuing Israeli strikes on Hezbollah. Cargo ship was struck by an unknown projectile near Dubai, there's like a style section

piece about rich people that are never going back to Dubai after the trauma they've experienced.

Early assessments by the UN refugee agency find that up to 3.2 million people have been displaced in Iran since the war started. We are continuing our onslaught on to Iran about 1,500 people dead there, aid American soldiers dead. So, that's the state of affairs, Donald Trump says we've already won, basically, it doesn't

feel that way. >> Yeah, why does he keep saying we've won, we obviously haven't won. Although, he does say we won, but we're also still fighting here as this weird way of justifying this.

“I think this is a mess, I mean, it's a mess, right?”

But I suppose I would feel differently abad at all if I understood why we were doing this. And I'm not really sure anyone's given a convincing explanation for why we're doing this. >> Yeah, generally speaking, if you're going to kill somebody, it's a good start to have a reason.

>> Let's say someone said, what's your interpretation of their reason? Why would you say? I would say that Israel feels a real and legitimate security concern with Iran. They've felt that way for a long time. Israel's military has demonstrated, like, really impressive capabilities between the

Pager attack and the first 12-day war with Iran and other, the ability to capitate Iranian

And they convinced Donald Trump to do it with them because Donald Trump enjoys seeing things

go boom. >> I guess, but it would be the reason that I would offer.

“>> You mentioned Israel like four times in that, and I mean, it's just like, but what else?”

>> Obviously, obviously, we would not be here if Israel looked like this. >> Right, okay. >> It's like that's like not, because it's just like, obviously, let's say Israel didn't exist. Let's say that, you know, like that, that it was entirely.

Let me try to paint like the most sort of generous reason for this. This is the most generous interpretation of what we're doing, which is the Iranians posed

a regional threat, but also to a degree of threat to the United States through ballistic

missiles, through their ability to disrupt the oil degree, to what degree? I don't know. >> To some degree. >> The cow made a degrees. Two degrees?

>> It depends. >> Two degrees. >> Okay. >> And you couldn't live in a world where, you know, they were threatening us like this. And I just, even that doesn't really make sense, because we were living in a world.

“And I thought one of the most interesting rationales was when I think it's Tom Cotton,”

like, you know, they've been an imminent threat for 47 years.

It's like, we've lived with this for 47 years, right? Like, we have. >> And Trump was already president once during those four times. >> We live through a world where we live through a Trump. >> I guess, when I look at what's happening in all the sort of disruption and the loss

of life and the tragic killing of these girls in this elementary school and the displaced people and the costs and the trauma and everything that comes along with it, I can't accept it because it's hard to understand what any of it is for. That I think is one of the primary failures of this administration and really Trump honestly, because he seems so much more tuned to try and win some sort of daily PR battle around

the war than he is about actually prosecuting it and explaining it to the American people. >> To find our point on this, both our colleagues, William Crystal and Jonathan last were smeared yesterday on the podcast as warm, ungrowing bloodthirsty neocons, you know, who are to blame for a lot of things. And both of them have newsletters in the last 24 hours about this topic.

It sheds a little bit of light on, I think you're your confusion about what we're exactly it is that we're doing there. JBLs yesterday, it was had by dire straits, the Iran war is run by idiots and I don't want to speak for them, but I think that both JBL and Bill and myself would like to be open to to interesting proposals considered on how to help the Iranian people find freedom from a

horrific regime, but like what they're doing is not that, JBL goes in depth to, you know, white papers have been written by experts over the past quarter century talking about like how Iran has prepared for this moment and, you know, some of the obvious things that they would do in reaction and our government seemed to like either not know or not care or not think about that or not bringing the people who did know when they were making the decisions,

Bill writes this warning about how they should rename this epic failure. I mean, I'm going to read Bill's email headline because it's the perfect Bill email. I've already read it. Sing goddess of the fury of Trump, the wartime president is focused on footwear. It's a classic bill piece, there's references to Homer and Elliot and Achilles, all in

all though, the summation of it was like Trump to notice doing like this is all just about Megalomania to that point. And it's like if even people that like hypothetically could possibly have been sympathetic to a admission, are you looking at this and saying, this is madness,

“it's insane, it has done in the most stupid way possible. I think that kind of tells you what you need to”

know. Yeah, and I've seen people say, you know, and I don't want to speak on Bill's behalf, he can do that very much himself. We'll see him on Monday. I've seen people say, well, you know, Bill's just clouded by TDS and anything Trump does. He's going to pose like, how could this guy have all people opposed what's going on in Iran? And I just don't see that. I mean, like Bill is pretty open-minded. I talked them all the time and I've edited the newsletters he's written about

Iran. I think he would be supportive of a war that was based around some principles that he believed in, and this is not that. I think he'd be supportive of a war that was done with proper and professional execution, too, but this is not that either. And just if you kind of narrowly isolate the issue of the Iranian people and this idea that they deserve a government that is more liberal democratic

I mean, what about this war has been pursued to that? We're going to end up with a more autocratic

regime with a younger, more despotic, I had told him. Or maybe they kill him and see what the next person is and it's like dealer's choice. We're kind of just -- Well, we killed the people who we thought were going to be good. Go fish for new I had told us. Right. The Iranian people are seeing their capital city absolutely bomb to smithereens. They've seen school bomb. They're seeing their water supply. They're all supply absolutely decimated. They have oil rain coming down from above.

Like is that really supportive of their rights and their hopes and aspirations? There's nothing that would give you a sense that this is being done for the purpose of helping a beleaguered

“Iranian populace. And I think everything indicates that this is being done to JVL's point by”

people who don't really actually pay attention to the details. I've got JVL's calm spot on.

Yeah. And I think, again, just to look back on the Israel part of that, I do think that if you read the press there, like there's not like a clear end goal, but I think that the people in charger Israel are kind of happy with any out like if it's a weakened Iranian regime with fewer missiles that could they could shoot at Israel, but a similar radicalism, not great, not the best outcome to like still an improvement if it's total chaos and they have internal fighting and

warring. So they're focused on each other, not their neighbors. That's a win. Right? If side to thatically, you get somebody who's more modern and even the best case in it. Right? Like, so I don't think that they have like a plan for the absence of the issue. It's like, I would have failed

nation state in Iran via win for the region. I mean, well, you'll end up happening is no one

who can control anything. It's at least understandable, though, because they're getting rockets

“fired at them all the time. You know, I think the point is that Trump is just along for the right”

with that. Yeah, but I hear you. I need a refugee situation. One thing I didn't get to is Sagar, I wish I'd got to more because it's something that's good on, but we're spending too much time on the stuff he's good on. I want to make sure we had a little time for me to dunk on them is the comparison to Syria. Like, Syria is so much smaller than Iran. Like, it just didn't like the number of humans that live there. And like the Syrian refugee crisis had ripples throughout

the entire world. Yeah, so it's a Syrian refugee crisis explains like why Brexit happened to possible. You know what I mean? Like the whole, yeah, you know, the whole Western world. And obviously the Middle East dealt with the ramifications of that. And so if you end up in that situation that's even like in the ballpark of that, in Iran, given the number of people that live there, I just, it's not imaginable. It's cataclysmic. I mean, we're talking not just about refugees,

“you're talking about famine, disease, you know, the potential for more terrorist attacks,”

guerrilla tactics that JVL ate out. It's it's unfatinable to imagine. And then just the scope of human suffering is really, you know, it obviously goes underappreciated, but like we can't lose sight of that. One more thing is kind of back to we don't know what we're doing. And I don't see anything that we're doing helping support like making the Iranian people feel like we're looking out for their best interests to the bombing of the girl's school. I figured it was yesterday the other

day. I kind of, there had been some discussion about how maybe it was the AI targeting and Claude, it was how that happened. As more reporting comes out and it kind of shut up to the remaining reporters who are on this beat after places like the Washington Post of esterated, they're middle-aged reporting. You still have the Reuters times, a bunch of other places are doing good reporting. What we're learning from them is that it may have actually just been out of date

targeting, like that it was the school's near a military base. And like this was, you know, things have changed in the past seven years or whatever since whatever the target they're using, just deeply tragic. I don't know if you know how much more there is to say about it. And the fact of the President of the United States just continues to lie about it is like, unfathomable. Unclenchable. Unclenchable. Let's just be real about this. Every every bit of evidence

now points to including our own review. The own United States review, Plamar review says, "We fucked up. We did this. We are responsible." Like whether it was cloud or, you know, old-day data is kind of irrelevant. But, and it's a little relevant just in the case of like, you'd be pretty alarming if our new AI, I don't know you're saying we're doing the recent it. Does this make the case for AI? I don't know. Not really. Not really. It's just like it's good to know

that so far like the AI isn't hallucinating and trying to kill young girls. Like that's all, it's just a fact. That hasn't happened yet. We thought it might have happened. So that's the only reason that it's possible. Wow, that is that is quite the silver lining. It's not a silver lining. It's just like we should know whether the defense department's AI is hallucinating targets as girl schools. That's all you do when there's a cloud or like, whew. Yeah. Trump should be,

of this is a tragedy. No matter what, we're looking into it. We're still investigating, but no matter what, it is a tragedy and it's horrifying to imagine what these families and people are going through. This president has not even acknowledged that this exists. He's denying reality. What an affront to like basic humanity that he can't even bring himself to just say, I'm sorry that this happened. Uh, he wouldn't respect someone who couldn't do this in normal life.

Well, exactly. I don't respect him. So that's the excuse. I mean, I said even the cost is not the thing that we have. I ended up in some speculation, et cetera, not who can even trust the fucking Pentagon who knows. But Pentagon, Pentagon tells Congress that the first week of the war

to seven days cost 11.3 billion. So about a billion and a half a day. It's pretty significant.

“No, there. I think for, for my perspective, I'll just can we just put on our just to”

cliche hats here. For my perspective, it's somebody who's concerned about the 30 plus trillion dollars that we have in debt seems not great. That once again, we're doing absolutely nothing to care about that. Maybe from you as a former husband, who has lived perspective, you might look at this and say, isn't that about what the Obamacare subsidy is time to cost? If we keep going at this pace for a couple more weeks, I think it's three more weeks. It will be the cost of the

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Can enter code "bore" can check out that's join deletme.com/bore code "bore". Kind of bunch of other stuff to get to. I have a section here titled Louisiana, themed fuckups in the administration. One is related to the Iran War, and then we've owned some politics. Okay. There is something called New Orleans, Yuria. I'm not going to

pretend like I know about this. What is that? It is, Yuria is basically fertilizer. It is

kind of a natural gas and ammonia, nitrogen, and you get fertilizer. I was listening to the odd-lots podcast. My favorite "dork" podcasts are pods. They have the world I usually fall asleep though. Odd-lots, which does like random economic stuff. Joe Wise saw on Tracy Alley. They've been on the show. Derek Thompson show I had him on last week. I can't find a nerd out on stuff. Those are some of my favorites. I was listening to Odd-lots show and I was like, "oh, New Orleans, Yuria. I should

care about this." The Florida New Orleans is the primary hub for importing and storing this fertilizer. It is coming though from the Persian Gulf, shocked. Got to go through the Strait of Formos, 45% of the world's tradeable Yuria comes from the Persian Gulf. China also has some of the remaining 55% but they have an export ban because China cares about their own people and they've banned the exporting of Yuria so they don't ever have a shortage.

So what we're going to see now as we head to the spring harvest is farmers paying more. I made some of them have already their fertilizer but like paying more. Long story short, this is just going to lead to additional costs, not just in gas prices, but in food and grocery prices. Because the trucks are now paying higher and diesel, driving the food around the country and the farmers are paying higher and fertilizer because we have a fertilizer shortage. So there's another

fall out for this. I was talking with Katherine and Pele about this yesterday. We did a little

“thing on the takes feed for those who haven't fogged. You should check out the takes feed.”

The economic ramifications are pretty wild and they're going to get much worse assuming this keeps going because precisely what you said. I mean so much has depend on, not just fertilizer but fuel and Trump himself has been very adamant like, "Well, if you bring good down gas prices, everything gets brought down and he'd talk about like, you know, don't nuts. He had this famous thing where he was like, you know, cost it donuts, depends on gas." And what's been crazy to me

is to watch Republicans in Congress try to rationalize this where they're just like,

freedom isn't free. Where we should play, you should pay them for freedom. I can't use the

George W Bush talking points. If you're not doing the George W Bush war, okay? I'm sorry, like you can't do freedom isn't free for this. And let's we're fighting for the freedom of the Iranian people. In which case, I think people are going to have to be on the ground and Iran.

“Sure. Well that's what we're going to do. You know, free people by bombing them. That doesn't work.”

That's the benign time. But someone else was just like, well, you know, these people are kind of poor and they don't really understand how it's like, they have a big deal of center he used to make great sense to get shared ground where he is just like, you know, the poor people don't really understand how to manage their budgets with the grocery store. I can't believe he said that. The thing is going to start out of control and it's hard to like draw it back. And here's

like the dark irony of all this is like they basically had inflation under control. Like they weren't right. Like obviously price were going down and that was a stupid thing to promise because you don't want prices to go down because they're in a recession. But like inflation in the February was down to like basically the target. It was like a little, you know, you want 2% it was like 2.8 percent or something. It was like how in housing was the reason essentially that it was higher.

“And it almost gotten back to normal. But then they do this war of choice. And it's like not only”

has gas prices just skyrocketed and immediately, but it's going to trickle down to like all

the other shit that regular people pay for 100 percent. On top of that, here's the crisis.

This will be the Tim Cook section because this is a real crisis for me. Tim Cook or Tim Cooks. Me. Okay. Tim Cook. But I sometimes Tim Cooks about Tim Cook. I've had a few of those. We have a crawfish crisis in Louisiana. And this affects me personally. Oh no. Obviously grocery and gas prices affects me personally. But nothing affects me more than this. I want to read this story from Stephen Mark Cantel at the Advocate. It's spring and Charlie

Johnson's crawfish processing plant in Boebridge should be humming. His crawfish peeling and cook room is usually staffed by Mexican migrant workers along with the handful of older locals. On a typical day, they'd rotate between Spanish and country music because they work. Some employees have worked to the plant for 14 years and can process 4,000 pounds of crawfish

“me today, which is important because I'm eating like 5 pounds today myself. The peeled”

tails are shipped to restaurants and grocery stores. But on Friday, nearing peak crawfish season, typically rockous room is silent and empty. That's because crawfish processors across Louisiana say a shortage of temporary workbeats that has left them without the migrant labor. They depend on forcing plants to sit idle during the busiest part of the season. It's not like that they were hiring illegal. It's not even that. They've broken down the entire immigration system. They

don't want new people coming in the country. So we don't have seasonal workers temporary workbeats as that we need it to carry out important services like make sure I can get my fucking crawfish during crawfish season. This is an outrage and it also crawfish inflation. Probably want to affect you Sam, you know, up in the Northeast. But it will affect me. But there are other examples of this. This is just the one that I care about personally, but where we're not getting seasonal workers

for it's going to be more expensive, vegetables are more expensive. And yesterday, it was the

thing that maybe I got the most mad about or second most mad about with Saga, when we were arguing

with this, and he was talking about like, Tim, you're treating these humans like they're eutils, and like the only care about them for your neoliberal goals. It's like, no, actually, I care about them as individual humans and don't think that we should be shipping them to foreign Gulags. And I also simultaneously think that like Americans should be able to have cheap fresh fruit and produce. And if that is supported by, you know, having some temporary migrant labor, then like great.

Like what's the what's the problem with that? Here's the alternative. I can Charlie Johnson's crawfish plan is empty. And once you go for the crawfish, you've gone too far. Yeah, this is not great. And I don't get Saga's point. I mean, this is a win-win, frankly, for the US society. They want the work. We benefit from the work. The American economy, clearly benefits work. Click any statistical breakdown of that. And now, and I don't really

we're seeing what happens when you don't have this. So, this is holistic too. It's like, you know, across the board. It's not just seasonal workers, obviously. You know, everyone from the seasonal workers who pick your fruit to the foreign PhD students who normally come and study here are like, no thanks. Or we can't get in. And then I saw this morning. The one, the one group that we have been letting in the white africaners, did you see there's a guy? Oh, I love this

my favorite story of the week. Thank you for bringing it up. The guy comes in, one of these one guy comes in. He's like, actually, this is too violent. I'm going back to South Africa.

I'm going to go back to South Africa. Yeah, we got the refugees, the white refugees,

that Steve Miller is bringing in. Look, I've been raging about this administration's immigration policies from the start. And I just, I can't imagine anything that could have gotten me more upset about it, but fucking with crawfish season. It's a final straw. Okay. So I'm going to be talking to my Louisiana neighbors about the impeachment at this point. I mean, impeachment or at least, I mean, Bill Cassidy, where are you? Like, Bill Cassidy, if you aren't going to save us from the

meat measles by blocking RFK junior from running health and human services, like at least you could fucking ensure people to work in the crawfish processing plants, so we can have our crawfish.

“At least you could do that. Bill Cassidy, are you completely worthless? Where's your governor?”

He's like too busy with greenland. Yeah, he's yeah. Where are those boats, by the way? There's a

big announcement, Jeff Landry, and Donald Trump made a big announcement. We're going to send some medical boats to Greenland. What happened? Do we have an update on those boats if they made it to new get more following up on these random stories? We should just have a feature in the newsletter. That's exactly how the administration asks them what the status is on the boats that are going to new great idea. I would like to know about that. Okay. I also just like, you know, generally,

what they think in this was a strategic imperative for our safety that we take Greenland. And well, it seems like we've got our eye off the ball now that we're like raining, hellfire down on our on. Thank you, business next. Yeah. This is speaking of immigration policy. We have a new Secretary of Homeland Security. Great news for everybody. If you're getting bored of Sam, stick around at the end. We are going to be giving you our updated cabinet rankings,

which I know is what is the reason why Sam's on the show today. So we can't include Marquane, Mullen, former. Is it really Mark Quain? No. It's been Mark Quain. Mark Quain, Mullen, former Sam I pro MMA fighter. It was three in Hell in his career, one win over Huggie Bayer. And then two wins over another guy, the same guy in a Tulsa, Sam I pro MMA. Yeah. What's your fucking record team? Well, I got into one fight

“on Thomas Circle. I think it was a win back freshman year of college. And there was another”

time when I was trash talking somebody to bar also probably freshman year of college. I was pretty hot as an 18 year old. And it was like it was a bicycle themed bar in Denver. Oh, and I was trash talking to guy. My friend said we should leave the guy followed me out. And then one of my buddies was a golden club box or he smoked him in the face. And then I kind of just ducked. And so that's another win. That's like that point. No. No, that's like happening. Yeah. Anyway, um, they're going to

have to vote. I guess the Donald Trump just wants to like name him. His secretary said how it works. It's a lot to approve them. Presum, he'll get through. But you know, there's been a lot of focus. I think on the scandals around Kristi Nome, her personal life and her spending and her physical appearance and, you know, the stuff films that she's put out like all of that kind of stuff. But like on the actual policy, there's not a ton of evidence of things are going to be very different.

And, uh, Adrian wrote about this earlier this week for us, uh, Mark Wayne Mullin, uh, said Renee Good and Gage and Domestic Terrorism. He called Alex Freddie Durain. She said the Liam Ramos story was false. Said I should remain masked. He's called for the National Guard to go into the cities. He's opposed judicial warrants. He looks like there's a review happening of CBP policies and they're instituting a lot of stuff that the little guy, uh, little Ms. Vivino had, uh, had been

“putting in place now. They've gotten rid of, of him, but, uh, with some of the policies. I think”

they're going to be in the new rulebook. So, you know, there's a little bit of a new boss same as the old boss, just kind of a different face situation here. So, I guess in one sense, the scandals like those sort of like, uh, high profile scandals involving personality and corruption will be gone, right? It's not going to be, you know, there's no jets where there's a bedroom that may or may not be for, you know, hanging out with Cory, but on the actual substance, it's very much the same.

I mean, we don't know. Yeah, we don't know. We don't know what Cory's willing to do to stay inside the

degrees. So this is the second thing. Anything to take, Cory. Yeah. So it's back on cameo.

Is he? He's back on cameo. Yeah. Helping people with their poopies. Okay. Well, yeah, but on the actual substance, they mean, look, this, and I do think this actually matters because, you know, I think my hope and my, my, my, my belief is that a lot of the public a revulsion over Trump's immigration policies and it had to do with how they react to things that

Brady, and then you saw Kristino Monachinston saying, well, these rocks are domestic terrorism,

“and so on and so forth. And people looked in like, what the hell are you talking about? Like,”

this is not, we can see this. You realize there's video footage of this stuff. And if you have someone like Mark Wayne Mullin who is just going to echo exactly that, I don't think it does. It means any sort of fundamental shift in how they're doing this. And we know, let me just say, they, we know that they do want to at least pretend like they are shifting, right? It's not just that they have sack nom and replaced her. It's that there's leaking the stories of, you know,

their political principles going on in the hill and saying, well, like, don't talk about mass deportations, you know, we need to just, you know, sand down the rough edges. So they care

about this stuff, but this guy is just going to do exactly what Stephen Miller says.

The other thing that's like happening simultaneously, he's told us is we still aren't funding DHS. I mean, like the DHS has a ton of funding from the last, right? And the most recent

“budget negotiations, you know, DHS is still an impartial shutdown, just affecting airports,”

affecting FEMA, affecting other types of security. I have seen some reports of, like, pretty gutted other parts of DHS, you know, things that you would think that they should be focused on child trafficking things in that nature. And so the Molyn confirmation will be happening simultaneously to this, like debate over whether to fund DHS. I don't see how any Democrats can vote for it at this point besides Federman, Federman's already said even for it. Yeah. And so, like, how does the

log gym break on that? Like, in a normal world, what you'd happen, if we go back to 2013, what would happen in a situation like this is the incoming secretary would make some concessions to the other party and as part of the confirmation hearing, like they would fund the department and confirm that person and they would make some changes. That's not going to happen this time. Well, in 2013, it would require, believe, 60 votes to get this guy confirmed. They changed rules.

So, now they don't have to make those concessions. And it's not definitely not going to happen, because this administration views any sort of reform as an indictment of something they've done, or as an admission that they did something wrong. So, if you're like, well, we'll vote for Mark Wayne. Mark Wayne, Molyn, if you, you know, let's say just throw something out there, institute a, you know, no mask and policy for ICE agents. This administration would say, no.

No, it's absolutely not. You're going to doxies people. You know, we weren't doing anything wrong. How is the shutdown end? I mean, there's been negotiations happening on the hill. They don't seem to be going anywhere. There's been an offer from Democrats to fund, for instance, the TSA and all the other agencies other than ICE and CBP. And that's not going anywhere, because that would just isolate it even further. So, I don't know. I mean, there was, we reported that

Republicans had been, you know, hinting to Democrats. Hey, if we turn against Christy, no, I mean, we get our out with that unlock these votes for DHS funding and the Democrats I talked to on the hill or like, no, absolutely not. That's nothing. And because of this, because there's no distinction

between Christy and Mark Wayne Molyn other than, you know, the $200 million ad campaign with

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seat opens up. Right. So there's maybe my second favorite story of the like behind the

white South Africans going home because America is too expensive and violent. This is from your old pal's of Politico. Governor Stit, they'll come a government who's been like kind of unexpectedly, just demonstrate a little bit of independence at times from Trump. I think it's not exactly the state where you thought to hear that. But boy, this report is, well, it's discouraging. It's really just reflective of the adiocracy meets corruption of the Trump 2.0 era. Stit, as many a

Trump today, about interval and seat. Why? I don't know who cares what Trump thinks about that CD as now. It's governor of Oklahoma's job, but I guess you got to go kiss the ring.

“I think in any administration, the present would probably want to have a little bit of say, right?”

I guess. I mean, we do have a, we do live at a federalist country. Like we don't have a king. I am just saying. Look, I guess you're still stuck in 18 year old Tim. Yeah, bye. Yeah, I am. I have a question right here. I grabbed, I had, I brought back up. Is that where you brought to the fight when your buddy had punched like that? Do you love the pocket concentration of the fighting? My fighting happened like right after my pocket constitution face. I think I was like,

I might have just did a white lie there to kind of preserve my ego. I do, I think 18 year old was pocket constitution, Tim. I think probably 20 year old was fighting. I was a little embarrassing to say 21. I can't find it. I got my pocket constitution around here somewhere, but we are still a federalist society. Anyway, Kevin Stit is considering two people from all on seat.

His own senior advisor, who I've never heard of, or oil, magnate, and Trump ally,

Harold Ham. Oh, yeah. One of the largest donors to Trump super PACs going back all the way to 20, 16, huge supporter as dumps tens of millions of dollars into Trump and his PACs. The idea that this guy gets a Senate seat would be, I mean, third world banana republic shit. Quite literally buying the Senate seat. It's incredible. And Trump probably would love an and demand the next change that he put more oil out onto the market. If Kevin Stit doesn't do it,

do you think like Trump takes FEMA contracts away? I mean, we're talking. The range of possibilities for retribution and grift is incredible. And this one, love it. We'll keep an eye on it.

“So I will tell you honestly, think about corruption and lack of seriousness and et cetera. We've got”

John Cornin down in Texas. You go across the red river to what's happening there. So the

Republican Senate primary went to run off. Tell Rico won in the first round of the Democratic

side, uh, PACs to and Cornin. According to one very narrowly, it was a three person race, certain hadn't won. But Cornin had the most votes very narrowly over PACs. And Trump kind of throws out this trial balloon, basically. It says, hey, I'm thinking about endorsing Cornin. And I think that whoever I endorse whoever I don't endorse should just drop out for the sake of the party, PACs didn't. Doesn't like that none too much. PACs didn't says, I'll drop out of Cornin

and the Senate passes the save act, um, which they can't do without breaking the filibuster. The save act is this kind of preposterous federal crackdown on voting rules in various states. My Calsky said she was against the yesterday. So make you disenfranchised so many alaskins. And so like that's kind of where things stand. In the meantime, ton of opo dropping like my magazine is just all Cornin opo, just about how he's a rhino cock or whatever. And polling is

coming out showing the Trump endorsement might not even really matter. That much in this case because the magazine people want to impact. And so it's an interesting evolving dynamic. John Cornin is trying to navigate that and get the Trump endorsement and survive. Have his political career survive. And he's also a little grumpy about that. It seems like we're kind of getting to him. And here was John Cornin walking through the halls of Congress, yesterday.

Obviously said that you can fulfill about sure would be taking a wrecking ball to Senate rules. Is that no longer true? Um, I said I'd be open to reforms. What would you say to those who say you just change your mind to win the president's endorsement? Say, uh, that's not true. You also said that it's not true. I think I think we're through. Go away. Think we're through. Go away. Hand in the face of the reporter.

Didn't want any follow-ups on that. Uh, because obviously that's exactly what he did.

“Yeah, it would be amazing if he was like, yeah, that's why I did it. I mean, I needed to win”

Trump's endorsement. I love it. I fucking love it. I love it. Get rid of the filibuster. None of these

like three of them that are unwilling to change their opinion when it comes down to their own

“career. But two of them are gone. Manchin and cinema. I guess McConnell still likes this stuff.”

But like his career is done anyway. Just get rid of it. Okay, because cinema condemned Coran in yet. Have you seen? She's a new columnist, right? She got in your columnist gig. I forgot it was for some weird. Alonitar or something. I don't know. Yeah. That's like the capital. The Washington reporter or something. Yeah. Yeah. Why should I run their column about this? Yeah. I don't know. What do you make of it? Well, you probably like the filibuster, right? I do like the filibuster.

I did like in general. I mean, I always was, I was for the talking. The way that the filibuster

has been used is ridiculous. It's like preposterous. It's like, okay, wait, now it's a sexy vote threshold for everything. Like that. I'd silly and not what it was meant for. All right. I, you know, that's somebody who likes drama and speechifying and politics. And, you know, if somebody feels so passionately about something, you know, that they're going to go and and try to block it. Okay. Like great. Like, let's, let's, let's, that's fine. Let's do that. The, the current system is bad.

I'm starting to even evolve. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Where's that pocket book constitution? Where's the pocket Councillor? I guess I said, I'm maybe just down here. Can you find the page up? Find the page that points to the filibuster in there. Okay, buddy.

Is this not in there? No, they never imagined this shit. Come on. Thank you,

note from Pete Buttigieg, right there. I can't find. Oh, wow. I got, I got Tyler's. Thank you, cards from when he worked in the, look at that. Yeah, but all the space. Thank you, note from Barack Obama station. I got some stationery. Yeah, okay. It's in here somewhere. Anyway, yeah, at this, at this point, we don't even have a Congress. So, like, you're getting rid of the filibuster. Like, Mike's Congress actually do worked. And I guess I'd be for that. Trump was back out in the streets.

Yesterday, he's been in his bubble. And he decided to go back out, do a rally. You know, the jerk-off dance was happening. I grew it as we were soldiers dying. In the Middle East, he was golfing this weekend. Yesterday, he was doing the jerk-off dance to YMCA. And he went to

“Kentucky for the very important purpose of retribution against Tom Massive, because Tom Massie”

embarrassed one of the Epstein files. And so, Trump is there trying to support Tom Massie's opponent in that primary, which will be watching Jake Paul, the MMA founder, was there with, like, very sweaty armpits, like sweating through his suit, and he went on stage and Trump endorsed him for a future office. Am I reacting to that? Are we playing a clip? Yeah, I don't know, but that's just, no, we're just, we don't play Trump's voice on all possible. This gets back

that to the, the first part of our discussion that he runs. Like, take me from Jake Paul back to

Iran. I'm going to get you back there, which is, it's very evident that Trump, you know, all he cares about, I mean, it's none of the revelatory observation here, but like, it's all, it's all about just, he has very little tensions, Ben, he just cares about the the news headlines. And he's just, he's doing things that do not in any way single that he is seriously worried about what's going on in Iran. Let alone paying attention to him. He's playing

golf, the weird, you know, rally, Jake Paul. I looked at his true social feed prior to coming on here at, you know, a lot of it's about oil, but some of it's about like Gavin Newsome. I don't know, he had some riff, and I think we're going to play it about Obama and like the stairs on Air Force

“one. Yeah, we're not going to play it, but I'll read it for you. Trump, the only thing I admired”

about Barack Hussein Obama, which was nothing, actually, but the only thing is the way he was bobbing down the stairs, you talk about unpresidential, he would bob, and I couldn't believe that he made it without at least a noticeable major fall. What, like, what, what, where does that even come from? Why did he even bring that up? I think it's very self-conscious about his own ability to walk up and down the stairs. Sure. I get it. You don't need to talk about that out loud. And then

but it's not even just Trump, too. It's like, you know, Pete Hague Seth, the story yesterday that he kicked out a photographer from the pool because he knew it was sexy enough in the pictures or something like that. He didn't like his recess side profile. Yeah. Yeah. The jaw line wasn't strong. These guys, you won't even smash. You want to shake them and just be like, yo, there's serious stuff happening now. Please get a grip. Focus on things. They're still there. They're 12. They're 12. I'm like,

literally. I'm Trump. Like, met his favorite WWE personality reality star and he was very excited to meet him. He is making bombs go boom. And like, that is it. Like, this, it's like, this is like, we're having like an effort. He's like excited about an F1 race around Washington, D.C. in Kashmir, has like, and then a fighter is training the FBI. And it's like, yo, it just,

I just want you to take it seriously. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know if they're capable. So, I don't know. Do you have any hot takes on the math? Do you think Massey can survive? It's a Trump primer. It's actually, it's a pretty interesting inflection point. Yeah. Because Massey has done the thing. He's done it. Yeah. Which nobody else, this is true. Is it nobody else? How would you, how would you say Liz Cheney did it? No, no, she did it.

Okay, I'll not explain the thing. I'm talking about, which is they're going to oppose Trump on a matter of principle. They are going to not waver on it. They're going to campaign on it.

“And they are not going to go fullbowl work then. Because people always say, like, that's what”

you're demanding people. It's not what I'm demanding people. They're not going to be Tim Miller and just shit posting what they're like, they're not going to, I kind of give up and basically soft for tired. That's what Liz Cheney did. I like we love Liz, but like Liz didn't take that with that Wyoming primary seriously at all. Like she, like, she wanted to stay in the race because she didn't want to give up, which was admirable, but like, shouldn't campaign to win that race.

She campaigned as kind of this valedictory message sending type campaign that he, like, a noble loss. It was like a noble loss type campaign. Thomas Rassy is trying to win. You want to stay in

Congress. He's a libertarian. He's not a resist lib. Like he is against Trump on the war. He's always

been against you war. He cares about the obscene files. He's always cared about them. He's fiscal hawk and he's such conservative on other issues. I'm like, he's that's him. He's just going to do it.

“If it works, if it works, and that's why I wanted MTG to do it in Georgia. And if either of them”

would have worked, I think it's a real signal that it's kind of like, like, you can see the end. Like it's not, we're not anywhere near the end, but you can start to see an exit path off of Trump because he doesn't have that effect over people. Yeah. I agree with you 100%. The flip side of that is if it doesn't work. Yeah. The message that sends pretty, pretty dark for sure. Very interesting

primary to keep watching. Okay. We are going to get to the cabinet rankings. But first, there are two

members of the cabinet. I promised the audience that I will only spend 15 minutes per week maximum on 20, 28 hot stove. Now, my exception to that is if I have a 20, 28 potential candidate on, okay, but like we're not going to do. I think it's too early. No, it's too early. Lots going to happen. No sense doing it. But it's a little fun. So we allow ourselves like a little, a little more so every now and then. Trump has been pulling Marolago attendees about JD and Marca. The

reply, which I don't think should be surprised at given that like it's Florida and these are the rich people. And they're probably a lot of folks that hate the Cuban calmies down there. But overwhelming feedback pro Marca at Marolago at the country club as the rightful air. Not JD. And that is

not nothing. It's not nothing to me for two reasons. One, I always like when Trump's asking this

because number one, I like it when he creates drama in his own side. And number two, it means that he's not thinking about how he can stay at power. So like those are small, very light silver linings, very narrow linings. You can almost it's hard to see them almost, but they're there. What do you make of the polling? The Marolago. Hi, so my general theory of this is that Trump will ultimately annoy someone because he wants to be kingmaker. And so there's not going to

actually be like a primary, is my sense of it, right? It's like everyone's just going to basically say, well, who's Trump going to annoy and that person's just going to run and they'll win. So in a weird way, these Marolago sessions where he's asking his buddies like Huda, who they like, really do matter. Like they really do matter. And then the other component here is that yes, it does signal that Trump's not going to run again. But, you know, is he going to like not

to borrow some sort of anti-Semitic imagery, pop it master these people. He's not doing the Putin thing or you run with me or you run with me or you're having a picture of you. Yeah, he's not doing junior. Yeah, he's the majority. And I guess the other thing and I know this is not going to happen,

“but it is worth. I don't think I think since you're Jewish, I can do it. And Trump is a Gentile.”

Yeah, I don't think that there's any anti-Semitic subtext. I feel fine. I feel fine with this. It's just one second. The other thing is, I don't want it there to be any, so I just want to vet it. What about Don Junior? I know it's not going to happen, but where is Don Junior and all this? Two stupid. And I think that the idea was that JD was the John Junior vessel, right? Because JD, so I've asked people, like reporters, etc, I've ever japer about it. Love, I've ever japer,

that people should read. If they're interested in that. It wasn't iawasca. It's a different thing. I can't remember the name of it. Anyway, he is still, for a profile writer standpoint, it rounds the ball in that world. Because he wrote about MTG and he wrote it with them. And I just was like, I refused to believe that JD vans and Don Junior are real friends, because Don Junior is so fucking stupid. And this is JD as a sociopath that will pretend to be friends

with anybody in order to gain power. And I've been assured that they are genuine friends.

“I kind of don't believe it. I think the JD is such a convincing sociopath. He can even”

face people out who are discerning. That said, I think that JD was like the Don Junior stand

it because of their, their friendship. Interesting. Yeah. We never talk about Eric Trump either.

You know, poor Eric. He seems to be running the business. Yeah. It's making money. He's all he's all. Whatever. I mean, he's robbing people with the way scriptocurrency. So that's, that's pretty good. I mean, maybe he's the true error, honestly. Okay, we'll keep monitoring it. I think that the Marco thing is interesting. And I guess lastly, we'll get the cabinet ranking speaking of Marco. The shoes picked the shoe going around. Yeah, what do you make of that? That's crazy, right?

So Trump's been giving them a, all a certain type of shoe. And it's been described as like a light-hearted loyalty test, which is a little flashy for me. Like it's like making people wear costumes and uniforms for you. It's like, it's a little, it's like it's not all the way there.

They're not military uniforms yet, but it feels like a step in that direction. But to me,

“the funniest part about it is like, I think Trump just like guesses what their shoe size is.”

Apparently. Because if you look at the picture, it's like some of the, like, Marco shoes are way too big for him. Maybe Marco lied to Trump about his shoe size. Maybe this is probably it. Marco lied probably about his shoe size. Yeah. He's like, he's probably like a seven, but he's like, yeah, give me a nod. He's gonna make fun of. You know, he knew if he told Trump he was a seven, the Trumpy lock around all the time. There's been like, you know what that means? Mr. Seven over here.

So he lied. So he's in these huge shoes. He's like in these clown shoes. And then there are other guys, I think I forget who it was, who's like, they're, they're fairly stuff's into the shoe. Right. And it's confusing. I, for starters, why wouldn't they just buy them themselves? It costs like 150 bucks. Just get the right size yourself and don't tell Trump. Or otherwise, like, the psychological, this was an Android, but this was funny. Like the psychological torment,

“like imagine the place you have to get in. Like you're walking around every day and clown shoes”

to make your boss happy. Like there's something submissive about like that. Deeply submissive. I mean, so much, there's so much to impact. One is, if it were me, and Trump was saying, you know, I'm gonna get you these shoes, what size are you? And I know that he equates shoe size with dick size. I'd be like 14, sir. Size 14, Mr. Trump, by now. Just comes and you grow by your own regular,

correct size shoes. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly. When you give the 14s to me, since that's my bad, that's exactly the size. Two is, um, if you've ever worn shoes that are too big for you, and it has happened occasionally by a pair of shoes, you wear them like you wear them once you are shit. This is too big. It's awful. I mean, it's awful. Like the wall and off, you're like scrape in the bottom of your trippin' over shit. Like, these are, okay, our secretary's state is

doing this on a regular regular basis where he's got to go through life. And these oversized shoes, I can't imagine doing that. It's awful. And then third and so embarrassing, too, because it's like,

do they have to wear these every day? Like, I don't want to wear this. I never wear the same

shoes every day. But I guess apparently these guys just show up and like, oh, fuck, I got to wear the Trump shoes again today. Like, do they do they change their suits? I guess they have to match the whole thing so stupid. But it's very fitting for the Trump era. I hadn't thought about that, just how awful it was to slide around the shoes. Personally, yeah, is this true, you know, how, as you get old, that you stop growing for your years, get

bigger, and like, it's especially true from Marco, because like, like, Marco's Pinotio curse. It's like every time he lies, his ears get even bigger. But for me, I feel like, is it possible my feet are getting bigger, because it's not been too big shoes for me lately. It's been too small. Every show I buy, I've been the same shoe size my whole life. I could feel like, and now they're a little tight. And I'm wondering, is it possible, could your feet grow after 40?

I'd like, I think it's the doctor's way on that for me, but I think it's possible that your feet actually go wider. I don't, I don't know, I think you're widening. Comment on what your foot do. I wonder like me in your size 14. You don't know. Hard to find shoes. All right, let's close with the counter rank, because me and Sam have been doing this since the start just kind of an

administration. It's also interesting exercise that shows our differences, but when we're coming

“from, for most of last year, Sam had RFK ranked as the worst cabinet secretary. I was”

vacillating back and forth between Nome and Bessant for most of the year. At the end of the year, Sam realized I was correct, and we united, unknowing the worst, and we were both ended up in

right, as she's the first one out. The rest of the rankings, Sam had RFK to Higgs F-3

Russel vote for. We're going to take Russ out for this one. We're just talking about cabinet. We're just talking about secretaries now. It gets too confusing for Lumpen in the trade rep in the element. Sure. I had Nome Rubio Bessant vote. So Sam had Nome RFK Higgs F, I had Nome Rubio Bessant as the worst three. I want to go through, I'm just going to list everybody really quick. How did we do this last time? Did we give great days or did we last time? Because if people want to go

onto the whole 30 minutes, we're already an hour into this pod. So we're not going to we're going to do an abbreviated version, but you can go look at our year end. We'll put the link in the show. And she's going to look at our year end. And we went through a year of everybody agreed. But we're not going to do this time. But I'm going to read all the cabinet. And what I'm asking for you is to give me the largest small person. We're not going to

impune any little people. But the person who stands out among the little potions, we're going to go through them. I'm going to tell you how about we do it this way. I'm going to give you my five worst. You give me your five worst and then we'll rank them. But I also want from you, if there's a sleeper out there that doesn't make the talk about sleepers. Here's the list. I'm just going to under the rule of the cookbook of Marco Rubio, Scott Basant, Pete Heggseth, Pam Bondi, Doug Bergham,

Brooke Rollins, Secretary of Agriculture, Howard Nutlick, Commerce, Lori Chavez, Doremer, Secretary of Labor, RFK Jr, Scott Turner at HUD, Sean Duffy at Transportation, Chris Wright at Energy, Linda McMan at Education, Doug Collins, Veterans Affairs. And then I'm also going to actually lump in their the intelligence agencies, Tulsi, Gabbard and John Ratcliffe at

“CIA. So we'll start with, like, who is the standout performer for you?”

Stanna performer's got to be, it's, well, geez. I'm so tough. Speaking today in this very moment, it's got to be Heggseth, right? It's got to be Heggseth. I know, this is your worst. The worst of the worst, is that we say, okay, sorry, I thought I'm at Stanna performer. Let's start with the compliment. Yeah, yeah, sorry, then we'll, you know, I still feel pretty good about my guy, Doug. Doug. Yeah, I agree with him, Terrier. He is making people like do errands for him.

I'm not doing it a different one. Doug, I think I think there are only two possible choices for the best of the worst. And Doug Bergham is one possible choice. And the other one is one I'm not going to go with, which is John Ratcliffe. Why? And I'm just grading him, because I'm rating him purely on. You don't know. I think he knows. He's demonstrated no skills. I mean, we, we don't know. We successfully kidnapped the leader of Venezuela with no casualties.

Well, that's pretty good. I mean, give that to Pete. Give that to the CIA. They found, come in, come in, they found him. Okay. So I'm giving it to Ratcliffe. We can, we can agree to it's great. Okay. Now we'll go to our, to our five works. You want to go one to five? Let's go, we just, I'm going to, let me, this, this is the pool, I have. This is the pool I have. And I have to narrow down to five. But in this pool, I got, um, obviously, my man Pete Heggseth. Okay.

I got Tulsi. I got RFK. I'll never, never drop them for my five ever, even though he'll go up and

down. I got Bondi. I kind of have Rubio. But, you know, that's my Pete, just because we're in the middle of war. And, uh, I got lot Nick, because we're still in the Epstein saga. And then my sleeper is Chavez Deremer. Yeah. Okay. So I was like, did you mention Beth's in there? No, I didn't even mention, I did not mention it. Okay. So you at RFK, like, this is pretty great, actually, about how many

“bad ones are. I'm happy we did it like this because I think that now that, that means that there are”

ten possible people for the worst five slots because I'm going to add, oh my, I think we've got a throw-in-bescent as a potential nominee. Okay. And I'm going to add also Chris Wright. Oh, it's Secretary of Energy. I don't think, I think he should not go without a mention. And I don't know that

Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins should go without a mention. Yeah, she's always going to

point out five, but yeah, she's always been a nice person. She's been terrible and she keeps getting worse. I mean, the foreign country is getting absolutely annihilated and all she, and she's like, grow your own chickens. What? Like, honestly, she did it through that one situation. She would be

Yeah, she did that three dollars. Yeah, all right. All right. Here's my second question. There's

ten categories. No, I'm just going to read them one more time. So they can make their own in the head. Rubio. Yep. Ascent. Hegseth. Bondi. Rollins. Not like Deremer. Kennedy June. Chris Wright. Tulsi Gabbard. This is a ten nominees for the top five worst members of the administration. This is tough. This is tough. Okay. Here it is. My five. You already have it. You're at it. Because I'm still working somewhere. Oh, I'll go through this and you work while I go through this.

Oh, there's one that I kind of want to swap. Oh, boy. Okay, this swap. Okay, coming in at number five is Latinic. I just can't. I can't. I can't. It's the same. Yeah, it's just a great. No, I did not make either of our lists in the fall. In the part because it was like he's kind of silly. Like my rationalization of putting blessing on over, not like excuse me, not in the fall at the end of the year rankings was was that I expected more out of best. I was like back in the fall. He was a nightmare.

And I like I was grading him a little bit on a curve. Yeah. Yeah. But now with the, with the abstumized, I do agree. You got to take a second look at that last. He's my five. My number four is Tulsi. What's she doing in Fulton County? Come on. Come on, girl. What are you doing? Okay. Fair. Number three, Mr. Measles are okay. And that is a demotion because he was been my one and two.

“He's down to three now. He's down to three. It's down to three. I think he's been”

tamed a little bit. I want to say. So I'm feeling a little bit better about that. Number two is bondy. Okay, just because the D.I.J. is a fucking mess. And she doesn't give a shit. And the number one is Pete. And like I said, Shave is the dreamer. She is, she, she's sneaking up on on five.

And she, what she's done is truly incredible. She's like, but it's like almost like I appreciate

the game in a way. Like she's boozing. Like, you know, sort of birthday parties for herself. Now her husband is harassing sexually apparently some aids there. I don't respect that. But um, some of the other stuff is there. Honestly, like the reason why she can't make my top five is because I, you could do what's the show? There's an apple that has John Hamm, where he's like a rich friend of neighbors. Yeah, friends of neighbors. Like we could do a, like that type of dark comedy about the

department of labor. We talked about the secretary and her husband are both having affairs with

“different people. What's happening at the Department of Labor? Yeah, what do they do when they go home?”

What do you think they do when they go home and they're talking about work? I don't know.

Really incredible stuff. Yeah. Okay. This is challenging. Of the 10, I had to cut

Tulsi because like, I don't see how she makes my top five. I mean, she's not doing anything in the work. She's been sideline. She's in Fulzing County. No, that's okay. To me, it doesn't seem like she's doing anything. She's doing yoga. She's loving the spirit of Aloha. She's not my list. Okay. And at the beginning of last year, she was in my top three. I was very worried about her. Chris Wright, I had to cut, but Reasonsy bias. I got Tulsa to men. I wanted to put a man. Yeah,

Reasonsy, but he lied about the straight of her moves being. Just long enough for some traders to benefit. Yeah. Lori Chavez Deremmer is out as mentioned. So now that means that I, I sub seven to

“choose from and I still have to cut and I think I have to cut Brooke Rollins. Unfortunately,”

I really want to get her in there. She's been a nightmare, but I got her. I don't know. What to do about my top six here. So I'm going to do it live. Number one. I'm going to go the opposite way. If you number one is obviously. Yeah. It's just like unbelievably bad. Number two is Rubio. Yeah. So he didn't even make your list. Yeah. I mean, like we're only doing this stupid stupid wars because of Rubio on us. Actually, I'm flipping it for the same reason. I'm best

into not like from the end of the year. You expect Joe is the worst now for me. And tag Seth too. Number three. Think, I think you got to go with who's getting that rose. I'm looking at not like in Bondi. I think you got to go with Bondi at three still. She's so she's failed. Part of me doesn't want to do it. Oh my god. I failed at successfully getting anybody. But like the the the minister not to get serious for a second. Like, and try and investigate Renee Goods

White. Like all that kind of stuff. Totally unacceptable. She's on three on pause for a second. I see where this is going. And I don't like this. I know exactly where this is going. I don't think you do because I don't know who my fifth spot is. We'll talk about it. I'm going to be mad. Okay. Fourth is not like, okay. You can't put that look over Bondi because Bondi's covering up the

Higgs at Bondi. Let neck. And the fifth spot is a competition between best sense and RFK. I know where

“this is going. How do you pick? Like, best sense is overseeing just a totally voluntary collapse of the”

economy. And he's being so obnoxious about it. RFK is brought back measles. The economy is affecting

everybody. The measles are only affecting people in small areas of South Carolina. Don't do it. Don't do it.

“Don't do it. RFK not bascent. It's got to be RFK. Come on. Okay. We'll put RFK at five. I wish I could”

do a tie. We'll put RFK at five. So one more time where we're our differences. I had rubio.

I had rubio on you had Gabbert. So you had rubio. I did not have rubio. I'd gathered. Yeah. That was the

“main one in terms of who we had versus who we did not have. And then the rankings I had Higgs”

at one. You had Rubio one. I had Bondi two and you had Higgs at two. I had RFK three. You had RFK five. I had Tulsi four. You did not have Tulsi. You had Lutnik four and I had Lutnik five. Hmm. There it is. What a show. Thank you Sam Stein. That was the porridge that everyone needed. After a saga. We'll be seeing you on the take speed. Already subscribed to board. Takes as well. We appreciate you. Everything you're doing over there. Managing the board.

So I don't have to. Tomorrow we have one of our faves. So we'll see you all then. [Music] The board podcast is produced by Katie Cooper with audio engineering and editing by Jason Brown.