Hour 1: I Hate This Game

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“Dave, you have a-- you have a back in my Dave for us here?”

I do. I do.

Sorry for stepping on the Cody family tells here.

But here we go. This is a movie specific back in my Dave movie tropes used to mean something. You know what I miss? I miss the scene when the two guys are wrestling for the same gun. And then it goes off.

And you don't know who got hit, because they both make that same stun stroke face at each other. And hold it for like seven seconds until finally after like, uh, uh, uh, those seven seconds go by, then somebody finally falls down. But really, it's a wasted seven seconds.

Because we already know it's going to be the bad guy who died. What the-- they're going to kill the good guy. Mama didn't raise no fool. And I miss when zombies were at least nice and slow. At least I could rest easy with the knowledge.

If there ever were a zombie attack, they wouldn't be able to catch me. Because you can't eat where you can't catch. Now though, I feel like I'm living on borrowed time because of the fast zombies.

And I miss when a semi regular cause of death in movies and only in movies has never

ever happened once in man's recorded history. We've talked about this before. But like dying while fighting on top of a moving train. No one's ever actually died that way on the planet Earth. But hundreds, 9,000 of characters lost their fictional lives while throwing hands with an

action hero that death toll among just bond villain henchmen alone has got to be in the four figures. And I miss how the bad guys in a high speed chase were just good enough shots. They could always hit the back windshield. But just inaccurate enough to never actually hit anybody in the car.

That's some seriously bad luck. And I miss when anyone would die in a movie. It would always be what their eyes open. And I don't mean it just like a little bit. But their eyes with it.

When people would die, their eyes would be all the way open.

But then someone would come along and they would take their index finger and their thumb and they would close the eyelids on the dead person. But then movies being informed by older movies, they were like too much with the like specific digits using it. And then it just became like a whole hand.

And they just like will rub their hand and then magically the eyes would be dead. It would be close. And then they're just like, you know what? This whole thing is taken too much time. Let's just throw a sheet over them and move on.

And I know a lot of people with me on missing the days when movies weren't preceded by a half hours worth of commercials. But the one that's plum and explicable. And therefore deeply vexing is the one for the movie theater itself. Come see your movies at blank movie theaters.

Hey movie theater, we're already in you. Let's job job and make them the show, hey. And when the movie ended, it was over. You didn't need to sit through the credits unless you wanted to see the name of a family

“member who was a key grip or something up on the big screen.”

Now I got to sit there for an extra 5-10 minutes watching this scroll in small fun to see if there's some leftovers to share. And I like leftovers, but still. And I miss when fraudulent Hollywood marriages were booed by public displays of assaulting y's acre Oscar hosts.

It's like being a beard and exchange for a list status has lost all meaning. And this one, it's not as bad as it is in con, but still, I miss when the Oscars didn't require 27 standing govacions over the course of the night. I'm not against honoring and during achievements, but come on. Who starts the standing govacion is really honoring himself for being a great guy as much

as the person they're ovationing. So somehow clapping from a seed of position now makes you a jerk if the person in front of you stands. And no one wants that. So now you've got to get up.

And you know what that means for the person behind you. So now we're all standing here clapping like a bunch of jackasses. And potentially wasting valuable seconds could have been used to get a little further away from the fast zombies that are going to be here sooner rather than later.

“That's how it used to be back in my day.”

Wow. Great. That was excellent Greg Cody has challenged your two his throne. We should play that for him tomorrow to see if we could elevate Greg Cody's game at all. David, I did want to talk to you about the Oscars.

It's the funnest day of the year for you. And Mike Ryan, you want a bet, okay. You won the bet when you said Robert Redford would be the last dead person honored by the Academy. And you also won the bet that Barbara Streisand would introduce him and then sing.

You were moved by it. I would imagine Mike Ryan burst out laughing called the whole thing weird and burst out laughing when the moment Barbara Streisand broke into song. It felt like an impersonator doing a Barbara Streisand impression during the whole thing. It was like for like her, her to send it to the orchestra was about her.

Like her whole entire connection point to Robert Redford was the badge nickname.

I don't know, but it felt very self involved. And I was like, that was kind of really self involved. That was more about Barbara Streisand than Robert Redford. And then the orchestra starts up, so I'm like, I guess we're going to get a montage. And then nope, bad starts singing poorly for bad, she and it's just not tuned correctly.

It was like it was kind of like sad and funny and awkward. She's not young anymore.

So let's give her a small break, recognize the fact that she's basically morning in the

loss of someone on her level, realizing that she's like next.

“That's what happens when you're that age.”

I wasn't viewing it through that way. I was also upset there was no James Vanderbite tribute. That's what I said last night, but then the counter was that he hasn't been in enough movies. He's a good guy. Why was more upset about buck or they have publicists get honored in that?

I don't want your life. The idea that my crying would say that Babs is self involved when she's like the original diva. I know. I know.

Have you ever heard her do what with Donna Summer? They're legit fighting throughout the entire song. More thoughts in general about last night beyond the awkwardness of we honored the dead for a full 30 minutes. It wasn't 30, but it was not necessary.

There were a lot of dead people.

I thought there were going to be several deaths during the length of that.

Now, the show itself, I thought, moved well. I didn't 10. 30 was over, right? Yeah, 10. 10.

32, 10. 33 in the time to watch the eighth and nine. Because I caught up, Brody.

“No, I think it was I think it moved fine.”

And I did you watch the end. I don't know if Dave did. There was a Conan sketch at the end of the house for life. Sean Pan happened to win, and it was a forgetting that his name is character Throjack. Blowjack.

Thundercall. Lockjaw. Thank you. Throjack. Blowjack.

Blowjack is a totally different character. He's actually Bob Nutting. Throjack. Blowjack. Lockjaw.

Okay. Right there. I'm sorry. Bill Nutting. So Conan is the host for life, which he'd love to be, but now he's dead.

They killed him at the end. I think had me for like 30 seconds. I'm like, are they just announcing that he's host and then the bit came in? See, that's so worth. Did you defeat Adnan in your annual rivalry of who will get more of the selections

correct? Yes. You only had one difference in your selections, your ended up coming in? Yeah. I did documentary correct.

It was Mr. Nobody against Putin where everybody was picking the perfect neighbor. But Mr. Nobody against Putin was a better documentary. Aaron Porton allowed for there to be a political discourse, which is what I told you what happened. And out came the star of the show in Russian talking about what needs to happen, what the

issues are. Meanwhile, Sean Penn's public says, "Hey, it's not that I can't vape here. It's not that I'm too cool for you, but I'm going to go to Ukraine, which would be in theory more important than going to the Oscars." So there was a lot going on.

So I was able to be to Adnan and he texted me after that he wanted an immediate rematch. And I said, "You've got to get off your couch for me, actually." Well, you can't have an immediate rematch until next year. Well, you want to see get you, basically, this is about you. It was, can you agree to an approvish show earlier than 10 days out?

Next year, we will do it with both you and Adnan in the same place.

“If you want to check out what we did last night, we enjoyed ourselves.”

It's on YouTube, and you can relive any of that with us if you'd like at your convenience. But what were the standout things from last night, because we actually before a lot of stuff was decided, we finished the evening. Yeah, there really no surprises. Everyone had the four major categories.

You had one battle after another as best picture and winning the most Oscars. How was Amy Madigan's speech? So it was perfect. She's 75 years old.

She had never won, and this was her opportunity to get up there, but she had, people were

curious whether she'd win, because it had gone back and forth. Like, yes, it's she never even been nominated, right? I don't know that. I don't want to be like Sid Thrift. No surprises, though, Sid Thrift, for those of you who do not know, he's decided to mention

a 1980s general manager for the Pittsburgh Pirates for some reason, thinking that anybody would know that. You wear a pirate hat almost every show. No idea who that is. Oh, my hot.

What bothers me is that why do you wear a pirate hat for skins? Like the P. He's even wearing it because the pirates correct outrageous. There is a very famous story of a GM who commented on a player who is not a real player, and I learned early in my media career with you, Mr. Levittard, do not say that you know

something when you don't know it because it's not right. I don't know the answer whether Amy Madigan has been nominated, so I'm not going to fashion it. Okay, fashion it. Quick break to tell you about a special Miller time I had with my good buddy Mochetta.

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Ta-tas, stugats. Ta-tas. This is the da-leba-tar show with the stugats. [MUSIC PLAYING]

“Can you imagine who has loved me in 1996 for a best-sequiting catcher for twice in a lifetime?”

You just saw, though, David's general discomfort with publicly acknowledging he doesn't know something. You saw it. You just saw it play out in real time. He had a movie question for him, and you felt and saw David's shame in not knowing the answer

to every single movie question that is asked by anyone anywhere in the world. I don't know. I don't trust that. Pretty much just that I don't know. I'm not throwing you a life line.

No, I really was hoping. This was the moment. This was going to be our moment right here. You started the day today by saying she looked like she was wearing P.J.'s. You're not going to recover from that ever.

That's an hour.

That's a first impression.

No. That was not our first impression. That's the first time you guys have been around each other where you've insulted her. I mean, Trista, saying a girl looks like she's wearing P.J.'s. I like conveys like sloppiness, right?

Yes, lovin'ly behavior.

“Have you not seen beautiful P.J.'s before, like sexy, beautiful P.J.'s what you're saying?”

That's what you were saying. That's what you were saying. That's what you were saying. That's what you were saying. That's what you meant.

No. I'm done here. A 90? A 90 is like for old people. A Teddy?

A Teddy. Teddy's better than 90. I told them back here. I said, I think David's been making a lot of eye contact with me. I think he's trying to form some sort of rapport and I'm not given it to him.

I'm not doing it. I can't do it. He's going for rapport and repair. I'm also going for trying to be good with Dan because he, this is part of me getting better at what I'm doing.

He's engaging with everyone in the room and looking around, now I'm being Chris. Well, it's where you started. I mean, that's an amateur mistake by you. I don't understand how you don't understand that that's not something you could do upon seeing the way that a person is dressed.

I saw her last night.

That was the first time we met.

And I introduced myself to the dog named Ali. Good. Good save. Good save. Good save.

That's the wrong thing. No, we saw it. We saw it. We saw you thinking. All of us.

Why did you not? Because that's not love. I was hoping that you would drown in it, wait a minute, who said anything around here was about love. God knows.

It's not. You better have some fixed cases. This teaches you all the executives and sports. Speaking of which, okay, I want to play something for you here because one of the criticisms of basketball announcing and one of the reasons I believe Jeff Van Gundy now works for

Adam Silver felt like Jeff Van Gundy didn't do a good enough job of accentuating all of

“the positive that is sales in basketball.”

All of the things worth celebrating. And I've noticed over the last few years, in fact, since Shack got there inside the NBA, the single best studio sports show there has ever been, inside the NBA has Shack telling everyone that they should play the game he played down low and telling everyone that the

way they play now isn't the right way, telling big men to be like him and just basically

complaining about things. I've noticed this with Willbot and Cornheiser as they've gotten older. You age, you get more conservative. You start complaining about more things and it's a little startling to see ends inside the NBA be the old person's show where generations now plural of athletes.

I've heard this in a number of times, man, bleep Charles Charles is from another time bleep Charles. I'm done. I'm not going to genuflect before Charles. Those are old guys who are just spending all their time complaining about the game.

So let's listen to this sound here.

“Zaz, do we have some context here that you'd want to put on this particular sound?”

Yes, so I'm I'm actually on my way home on Saturday night from the heat game, all right, heat and magic and I'm listening on the radio to the end of Lakers and Nuggets, which was a great finish, all right, incredible finish to regulate. They got a call wrong at the end of that game as well. The NBA has announced that they got a call wrong and all they do is announce that it doesn't

change the result at all. It doesn't make everyone feel better when they do that. I thought it makes me feel better. So Austin Reeves misses a free throw on purpose, gets the rebound lays it in. They go to overtime.

That shit never works and it worked, okay.

And then in overtime, Luka Donchitch had a shot right before the buzzer and the Lakers win. I mean, sounded like the most fun regular season game they've had this year. And so here is inside the NBA because the game I'm listening on radio, but here is the game ESPN on ABC and here is Barkley, who has made his stance clear really for the

last several years when it comes to the Lakers. Not a championship team doesn't want to hear about them being a contender. So here, this is immediate reaction after the game from Barkley. My worst nightmare is the Lakers win in tonight and I have to listen to all the crap on Monday on all the talks here with how the Lakers are contenders.

If they get a home corner of the world and make them a contender, no, if they get to three seats, are you telling me they wouldn't be a contender and they're in a four C right now. So look, I love inside the NBA. We all love inside the NBA, but I think for the first time, I am a little bit concerned that it's a little too negative toward the game because what I'm talking about is like,

okay, not everything has to be big picture or are the Lakers aren't a championship contender, but that was a really fun game. We just watched. This was a fun regular season game. This so fun.

Not everything needs to be about the the destination. This doesn't matter tonight because this is not a championship team. I'll tell you, if that was the heat, if the heat won that regular season game, we all know that he did not a championship contender and then just the entire conversation after it was about how who cares about this, they're not going to win a championship.

Like, I don't know, I think it's a little bit too negative. Let's play some secondary sound from this broadcast as well because I do want to get into this conversation.

“And if you have to rely on the heavy diet of that, you're not going to win and you're”

not going to be a contender. I'm used to playing for coaches that wouldn't be happy with again. Here we won a game, but when you're up 15 early in the game, Chuck and Kenny knows this, that's when you got to put teams away, especially if you're with them, not just though. If you did that against the wizard, you're up 15 at home, you've got to beat them

by 15 at home. Don't let them come back and win. But on the other side of that, those shack. That's not the league anymore. Like who cares that you're up by 15, that feels like, and I know this is a trope about

that show these days that they don't want, they don't actually watch, but that really does feel like shack doesn't watch. That's the league now, everybody comes from behind in a double-diffage deficit.

That's not always been the league.

It's actually, like, let's the league now, because there's just crazy blowouts happening in the league right now. That's just basketball. I don't know what era that he's speaking on. Well, but Chuck specifically, okay, has told you as recently as last year, I can't name

any of the pistons who are now the one seed. There's all sorts of stuff these guys are missing, and shack and barclier there to just

That's their job.

“And let me explain to you how hard it is to get these people to do these shows.”

I heard all week and Robert Orie, not making any sense on the broadcasts that he was doing,

because they had him doing like 70 big, 10 games, because it's hard to get someone of even Robert Orie's stature to do the work for what these networks are now paying for this stuff. Like there is a universal philosophy across sports media these days in sports media. Some of the cheapest media you will see televised in broadcast anywhere.

Maybe the Eagles starve the turkeys. It's it. I hear it all the time and so a few guys get paid, but Robert Orie's got to do like 20 basketball games over the course of the weekend because of the few amount of jobs that there are. And when you look at this particular broadcast, shack and barclier are either approaching

60 or over 60 years old. So entertain me on the conversation of what is their job, David, because Jeff and Gundy doesn't have one right now, even though he was excellent, because the commissioner of

the league thought that he was too negative.

And before recently, the only person I had ever heard talk about a sport dynamic like this is your beloved Scott Boris when he used to talk about baseball during times that everyone was fighting over money and collective bargaining and he said baseball is the only sport in our business world that spends all its time kicking the can down the aisle of grocery food, kicking the can, kicking the can, kicking the can and then putting it back up on the

shelf and telling the customer to please buy it. This is super negative. What they have been doing for a while as they've aged has been negative. It's not a celebration of sports. They have fun, but they don't love what they're watching the way that they used to.

They sound a little bit like Wilbon when they're complaining about the 53's a game. It's specifically two of the experts you have loved playing in the post. They were better playing in the post than most human beings are in the post. So they're watching a distorted version of basketball. They don't like what they're watching.

It's not what made them great. It's why their days are coming to an end because life goes on. That Riley's watching a game basketball.

It's not like the days of red holes, men in the old days, it's done and you're never going

back.

“And when you cannot adjust to the new game, the new people, the young people, that's what”

being a dinosaurs. That's been going on forever. You age out of the role. That's what that's what Barclay and Shack have done. I'm a little confused and I'll have it with a sound on for the post season.

But wasn't it just like six months ago where the entire NBA world couldn't live without this show? Oh my god, they did it. And our all-star game last year was a tribute to inside the NBA. That was the whole show.

But it was a joke because that was part of the business transaction that happened with Warner Bros. Because remember, they had signed these guys to these contracts. And once the NBA writes when away, they forgot to put in the deals with Shack and Barclay smart move.

forgot to put in by the way, if we lose the NBA, sorry, we can get rid of your deal. Oh, Christy's, what do we do? We don't have any games. No one's going to watch a pre-repost game show without the actual game. We got to get someone to pay their salary.

Who's paying it? Who's paying it? Yes, PM is, right? Yes, Disney. That's who's paying their salary.

So that's how that works.

“Well, I think the whole thing has become a bit reductionist where they just wanted to still”

everything down. And I think that's basketball sports media in general, which does not happen with the NFL where it's like, if this team is a contender, we talk about them. And like if you're not a contender, it's kind of like an answer to that. It's a very high-level theory type of thing that you see with Mike and the heat.

Where it's like, we can't be excited about any games about the heat, because I know this team's not going to do shit when it matters. And like I've already, and Yankee fans are this way as well. You just go down this spiral of negativity because everything is championship or nothing. It's just ring chasing.

And it kind of takes a lot of the fun out of the 82 game season. There's a generational difference here, though, on how this infection permeates the rest of the league. When I talk about the example of Scott Bora saying that once upon a time, baseball was taking a can of food, kicking it throughout the off season when we're talking about money.

And then when the season starts putting it back on the show, the way these guys are talking about even a great regular season game is absolutely infected by the fact that nobody seems to care about the regular season anymore. So there's nothing that can happen in a regular season game unless it's controversial. That's going to get anybody talking about the single result because we all know now more

than ever that any single result doesn't matter. It doesn't.

Well, as someone that is trying to correct my relationship with the NBA, because I default

“on that all the time, I was watching this game.”

It was a big game in the standing. It's great. It matters. It gives the lakers now the three seed. You had all the stars playing.

You had everybody carrying.

You had to finish that you never see.

It does feel odd to me and something that I would say in years previous, when I'm back one before I try to reshape my opinions on this thing, it seems toxic to the sport. It doesn't seem like you're helping. And look, I can understand that maybe in TNT, but you're with a new partner. He saved your show, you're doing it out of the same studio in Atlanta.

You're working with all the people that you love. Maybe just maybe throw a bone to the NBA in New York.

“You say this, Mike, but I'll remind you that we started the show today with Zaz, who's younger”

than Shack, saying he'd seen it all and he's old and tires. Zaz is saying, I've seen it all. I'm old and tired. Shack. Shack's played in some important games.

He's sitting here watching a regular season game saying, "Oh, the Lakers are the three seed congratulations, Lakers. My standard is we are winning the championship every year. That's my standard." Well, but I guess the difference is one of us, it's their job and the other one is just,

I can make a choice whether or not I want to watch this or not. Zaz, a weird standard to have when you're covering the league as a whole, not everybody has that standard. I can understand a jaded fan, like a spurs fan of 20 years being like, man, this really sucks is a throwaway season, it's the NBA, like your covering teams are absolutely

shooting for a championship. Those are two of them. Don Lebatart.

I've never stepped foot on that campus.

If you told me right now, you'd like the pens on it, go to Santa Fe University and just just take a picture. Two gods. I would die, I don't know where it is. You see, it's not Lebatart show with this two gods.

Yeah, they're trying to be kidding when they're trying to react to what's happening around them, which is people not caring, so they're leaning into that, but now what you're saying is you lean into it so much that now you become the focus of the not care, but don't forget that ESPN and Disney, they're really all about as they should be the playoffs. They're about when people are really focused and shacking, Barclay are focused when it comes

playoff time, but what's happened to the infection, as all do, is they spread. So now you see some first round matchups, where all of a sudden, they're not as engaged. They're the blogs you talked about with Miami Cleveland, so now you're seeing regular season

“bleed a little bit into first round of playoffs and before you know it, that's how you”

look. Let me talk about something here, though, that I see happening in whatever is the new media of all the smoke and drama and green and Pat McAfee and younger-ish former players who have the complaint about what ESPN specifically has been over the last 20 years is why do these people who did not play the game get to have the same standing as I do when they're not as expert as I am on this. One of the complaints that I've heard

McAfee and others have is that the Pablo Torres of the World or the Meas of the World

that we don't care about sports, the way that we need to care about sports. I'm always more

fascinated by the sociology of sports than I am by sports, but when you get to the age of shock and barclay, do you know how hard it is for basketball to move them at this point? Like anything meaningful to happen at any point in basketball given the amount that they've seen and they've done. Never mind in their playing careers, just in their broadcasting careers. But that finish wasn't one of them? No, not a regular, there is no finish I can give them

in a regular season game that they're not going to yawn at given the way the business of all of this has infected everything. How much do you think they actually love the sport the way it's presently being played? Well that's the question. Like how much do you actually think they love this version of the sport? They obviously long for the time what their game was. But I remind you that on an airplane, when you go through turbulence, pilots are fine, they've done it and

people in the back of the plan are freaking out. These guys have seen it. They've seen every finish, they've experienced it. It is March. You say it's a big thing for sitting right now. It's not. But turbulence is enjoyable. Turbulence is never in July, pilots that. Basketball is supposed to be in joy. I don't want to take it to the top line issue that's been facing this league for years. But like the stars are miserable. No one seems to be enjoying the regular season.

That plays a part. Like and we can't be that surprised when the analyst covering the sport follow the lead of the people guiding the right car loves town. You have there are too many games

There's a good point. I think we need to get rid of these former player analysts. Like I just

think we have way too many of them. I think we've gone completely the wrong direction. We're spending a lot of money and David, I'd love to get your thoughts on this. But like the ROI, outside of Chuck and and shack and this crew. Like the ROI on a former athlete analyst cannot be that high based on

“how much you have to pay them and you're not bringing any enthusiasm or knowledge or preparation”

to the goddamn sport. You're bringing knowledge, but not preparation. John Skipper on the sporting class with Pablo. He will say he will talk to us about. I don't know who that was moving. That was as keep it moving. You got, you know what, how did it feel?

Mine are penalty two minutes to lay a show. It's a shame. I was really interested in that. I was too,

but you can't mean it. It's in the bit once. No, it's the marbles. Mine are penalty two minutes for explaining the show. He didn't actually let me show them. He thought about explaining the show and that is an intent that he had and so he's out of here on the intent. I need to break him up this habit because he's behaving poorly when it comes to minor cameras. It's my crying. Yeah, it's beginning to be a theme. I should not open my mouth

on the NBA. Every time I'm penalized, whenever I give an opinion on this sport. It wasn't the opinion on the sport that got you banned. It was the desire to explain that Zaz has an inside joke bit that David doesn't understand. So we're going to stop and explain the show today. So he can play along with the others because he's behaving like an outsider by stopping the show and it's tracks to ask a question about an inside joke that we keep it moving on. If Adam Silver and the NBA's goal

is to get more people to watch at all facets of the season, regular season, play in tournament, in season tournament, then you need more people excited about the sport. You need more people to inject enthusiasm and life into like this moment was awesome. Like this, this intentional

misfreethal from Austin Reeves never works. And then this step back from Luca, like he had it

going, he felt the stakes. He felt something about the standings. Like I don't care whether it means that the lakers are a real contender or not. Like that moment was awesome. And these executives need to hire people who at least pair with these miserable f*ck to make them happy and excited as well. I'm honest, cynical is anyone these days about the NBA. I used to love the NBA. I'm very cynical about these things. But like I said, coming home Saturday night, listens to that game. Like this

can be pretty awesome. Well, the thing that I want to discuss as it relates to what Trista was saying is that given the present position of shock and Barclay specifically, never mind the stature of that show. They're not going to fake enthusiasm for anybody. And at their age, they're not going to be enthusiastic about very much given what their resumes are. Listen, put me in that dress. I was in last night with the nipple covers. I knew as just you

angling for a job. This is what they're doing. And get me excited, not me specifically. No, no,

“you can tell a rook there. You can put down the money. All you have to do is to add this. All you show.com, DLS. Hoops,”

YouTube right after the show. You and Juju give positivity and enthusiasm about what you're watching. But the old people are still in charge. And these are the game's biggest power brokers. This is an untouchable show with guaranteed money with people on it who have been doing it a long time, watching for a long time. And this is how all this stuff ages. Like, not everyone's Dicky V. Like, Dicky V is not faking that in his 80s. Not everyone's lead course so. But Dicky V and lead

course so were failures as coaches, as they became media personalities, because they were grateful to be able to become media personalities. Shotken Barkley have taken a demotion on what they used to be. And they've been doing what they're presently doing, marching to an office to talk about games that they're not that interested in. And they're not going to fake the enthusiasm for you.

“All they're going to bring you is will be Shacken Barkley. That's what you get for your paycheck.”

It ain't going to also be, and I'm going to sell your sport the way you want me to. How, do you think you can tell Charles Barkley anything about how to do this? Certainly not. But I think Ernie, at least it's, the onus is on him to at least steer the conversation to, wasn't that kind of fun to watch though, like, as we're watching a bunch of games. And maybe he did. I mean, those were only dead. No, he did. He did. He did do some of that. And he knows, like he's, but he's also

sports to say the gatekeepers have always been the older people who have all the longevity in

“lifetime jobs. And now you're seeing the democratization of it as people develop their own”

audiences on YouTube and elsewhere, where the enthusiasm is carrying the day for other young people who have grown tired of it. But I'm going to tell you again, I've heard a number of complaints from people, man, bleep Charles. His time is past. Like, I don't think that. I don't think the grand majority of audience thinks that. But they are tired for a long time of him being a critic in a way that feels to them, like, filled with more old man than the average critic. And you

mentioned the democratization of content in media. And it's really the people who have these independent

voices that are the groundswell. I mean, you want to talk about, oh, maybe my besmirching isn't great for the league. But at least when you have enthusiasm on the lower end, you're lifting the tied the Charles Barkley and this all the traditional media is bringing down as an anchor. But yet, the league, even though they want enthusiasm, they want to keep these people who have free voices out. I don't think it's very easy. The task in front of Adam Silver, because you can fire Jeff

Van Gundy if you don't like it. But you can't really do anything with the chief voices on this sport are old. Like, just help me with, give me who it is that are the biggest voices in young enthusiasm on basketball. The ones with the largest audiences, not the shams who is just an information of opinion voices. But just note enthusiasm voices. Like, I love this game. Like, you remember that was that that's, that was the slogan throughout the 90s. The slogan on all the nostalgia

around NBA on NBC is, I love this game. I forgot that. No, now the slogan should be, I hate this game. I'm not kidding you. It should be among the gatekeeper, old voices. Why would they have any enthusiasm for how it's being played? Why would Shacken Barkley like to see 53 pointers again? There show me how many threes Shack took in his life. Tell me statistically career, shots Roy, look up for me. Please. How it is. How many let's take a guess on how many made threes

“there were in Shack's career? What are you going to get? Oh, I think he's made one. One in his career?”

Yeah, and I actually said three. I actually can remember in my head. It was over. I think it's one. It has to be more than one. It's a big career. Over under three and a half. Under. How many do you think he took in his career? 10. 10 in his entire life? He has no for them. You guys were for a young skinny Shack. He was shot clock running down, running down the core. Everyone won for 10. One for 10 for career. Yep. I'm one for 22. Wow. It's pretty good.

So you remember the one you remember the one you read the Shack made? They did it. It looked like his free throws. It's like one hand did, you know. Shock put it. He really has seen everything. It was the 1995, '96 season in all-in. Yeah, of course. Yeah. He stopped it. I don't get credit yet. I just got everything right. I don't get credit yet. He's a good guy. Yeah. Name the team. No doubt I don't know. But I remember where it was on the court.

Part of the three-point line? Well, yes. It was on the left wing. I can't with you. I remember watching that Shack here alone, Neil, and it's literally unlike anything I had ever seen to that point. Watching someone that size. He was skinnier.

“But watching him go coast to coast dribbling. The basketball was like, what the hell was that?”

That was the first game against the heat. Yeah. It was crazy. It was crazy. It was crazy to watch someone

that side. Go coast to coat. That size goes coast to coast. And now he hates basketball. And why wouldn't he? Where'd you say it was? Left wing. I'm watching. Like I assume if he only has one. I'm seeing a three-point rate. It's like a buzzer beater. Yeah, it's not the left wing. It wasn't on the left angle. He's at the elbow. Just passes half court. And he's approaching the three-point line on the right side of the court.