This is the Dunlema Partial with the Stugat Spotcast.
Jessica's going to join us here in a little bit, Jamel Hill, as well.
“We are going to try to not talk BAM with Jessica and Jamel Hill.”
I will put a little bit of a ribbon on some of this with BAM out of bio and how it's being received nationally and in Los Angeles. This is a tweet from Jorge Sedano in June of 2017. Yo, how long has it got to tell you? According to scouting reports, Adabayo is said to project to be a poor man's
Tristan Thompson. And now he is the record, or he's not even the record holder, it's wilt is at a hundred. This isn't an unusual thing.
And second place usually isn't second place by 17 points, isn't usually celebrated this
way, or making people in Los Angeles sad the Lakers last night. There was a fun basketball night last night if you're watching Boston and the spurs. Wemby goes crazy against Boston, Jalen Brown is ejected in a way that you really shouldn't be ejecting him.
“He obviously got pushed, and they called the other way, you went out of bounds, you went nuts,”
the other guy gave him a tech. But it was shocking, though, the Lakers, due to you told us recently that the Lakers stink with a capital H, and they don't actually stink. They're about 10 games over 500 and they're a little bit confusing. They do stink at defense, but they beat Minnesota last night, and during the game, the public
address an answer for the Lakers announced Pam Ottobio's record setting night this way. They rather melancholy, put note, and NBA history occurred by MbB, Washington, 151-29, and they gave MbB forward bath out of IELS for 83 points. Get the hell out of here.
Who is this? That's shocking. That's real?
“A rather melancholy footnote is how bad.”
That's cool. BAM said after the game, that that's the best he's ever felt after a game, and it is a rather melancholy footnote in Los Angeles. That's shocking. Just a quick thing on how this could possibly be melancholy, because Bammatobio was a guy
who, when it can tuck you would stay late after practice in John Colopari, said that he would go up to him and be like, "Why are you still here in the gym?" And what Bamm would do is just turn his phone, where his phone background was the trailer that he and his mom grew up in.
And when he got his first big contract, he bought his mom a house.
She was there last night, Isha Wilson was there last night, a fellow record holder. This was anything but melancholy. What a cool moment for them to shit on. Colby didn't have the record. He was second.
A rather melancholy footnote, Jessica joins us now, and we are going to change the subject matter around here, because we've been talking about this BAM thing for three hours. But before we get into the meat of some sports topics, Zazlo, is out on Quentin Tarantino now? No, not out, but I do a thoughts on it.
Well, I mean, I say you're out because you won't watch Django Unchained. You won't watch it again. That's out. So represented his feelings accurately. So Quentin Tarantino has been getting for years, gets very famously a long time ago,
Spike Lee, like took him to task on his use of the N word in his movies, and he writes the N word into his script many, many times. Says that himself when he puts himself in his movies is very comfortable to white man using that word and has defended it at every turn. I mean, that scene, like his scene in pulp fiction, which is my favorite movie, his scene
in pulp fiction is hilarious and also really over the top with the use of the N word, okay, as are some scenes in a lot of his movies. I will tell you that Django Unchained, which obviously has the N word a lot, and is like, you know, we're dealing with slavery here and has some rough scenes, he's my favorite director, his movies are my favorite, but I will tell you, I've seen Django Unchained,
it's a really good movie, I've never watched it again, like every time that I pass by it
on television, and I'll see it for a few minutes, like, it's always kind of a tough watch, you know, and not just because of the N word, like, it's a little bit rough to watch, so the most recent, I guess, actress to come out and be critical of Quentin Tarantino
Here is Rosanna Arquette, who worked with him in pulp fiction, all right, and...
Arquette, you'll remember, was Eric Stoltz, he was the drug dealer, she was his girlfriend,
all right, and very famously in the scene with the O.D. adrenaline shot with Duma Thurman, Rosanna Arquette, I am a magazine piece about her career, talked about Quentin Tarantino saying, quote, "Personally, I'm over the use of the N word, I hate it, I cannot stand that Tarantino has been given a hall pass, it's not art, it's just racist and creepy." And so obviously Quentin Tarantino is going to respond to that, and he writes, "Dear Rosanna,
I hope the publicity you're getting from 132 different media outlets, writing your name, and printing your picture was worth disrespecting me, and a film, I remember quite clearly, you were thrilled to be a part of, do you feel this way now, very possibly, but after I gave you a job and you took the money to trash it for what I suspect is very cynical
reasons, shows it decided lack of class, no less honor.
They're supposed to be an esprit de corps between artistic colleagues, but it would appear the objective was accomplished, congratulations, Q. Jessica Smiling because of how you just pronounce spree de corps, you can see it on her face. Dan, that's not fair. It's wrong though, it might not be fair, but it's not wrong.
“What are your thoughts on everything that he said there, Jessica?”
I mean, I think she's entitled to change her opinion over the span of what 30 years since the movie came out, and I think that her criticism, like you mentioned, is something that has been said many, many times about him, and creepy and racist is, yeah, I mean, that's certainly things that people have called him before. Not just creepy and racist, also affiliated with Harvey Weinstein in a way that hasn't
blown back on him the way you think it might, and look, man, his arrogance is earned. He makes great films, but he carries himself as if he knows that he makes great films, and he's untouchable, because he's doing something there that no one else is doing, no one else is comfortable doing that in 2026, no white man is comfortable doing that. There's been a lot of controversy this week regarding the movies, Dan, I know the Oscars
are coming up this weekend, there's been several just bad PR moments, so I would like to take this time to transition to one of my favorite controversies of the week, which was something Timothy Schallamay said in an interview with Matthew McConaughey, have you seen any of the blowback to, to me, Schallamay as comments to Matthew McConaughey?
“I think we might have, to avoid, do we have the clip?”
Yes, we do, and I don't want to be working in ballet or opera, or, you know, things where it's like I keep this thing alive, even though I just lost 14 cents in viewership, but I just took Schallamay to hear what you're saying, yeah, so, so, I tried to save it there with the little operatic note at the end, but this clip went platinum viral on the internet and the opera and ballet communities were so mad because in this clip it appears as though out
of nowhere Timothy Schallamay is taking a shot at ballet and opera for not being relevant in the mainstream, and so he has been just, people are very, very upset at Timothy Schallamay, so I was like, that's interesting, I would consider myself a fan of Timothy Schallamay, I'm going to watch this interview, I would also consider myself a fan of backing McConaughey, and especially the film Interstellar, which is what they spent a lot of this interview talking
about Dan. So I watched this entire hour-long interview with Timothy Schallamay, and man, it's not that I got taken out of context, but it's almost as if like no one who reacted to it, carried at all, why he brought up ballet and opera, and what he was trying to say, what they were talking about was that the younger generation, apparently directors are making films where
there's a shorter first act, and they want more action sequences earlier in the films
to capture people's attention, and he was sort of talking about that, and they were talking back and forth about that, and he was saying that he doesn't, he wants younger people to go to the movies, and he doesn't want the movies to become like ballet and opera, where
“they're not part of the mainstream, and you have to beg people to go see your movies,”
because they're only watching short-form videos and things that capture their attention. So the other, you know, I understand, he's probably shouldn't have used that as an example because it was kind of mean and dismissive, but the other side of that Dan is like, I don't watch the ballet or the opera, so I can't sit here and be like, well, he's an asshole and he's wrong, because I would have to agree, it's not like a mainstream form of art anymore,
like it used to be. But based on what he said there, Timothy Schallamay, like, do we take into consideration
All that opera sucks?
No, it's not the price of all of that. It's not surprising that people who love opera and ballet would be defensive and protective of opera and ballet. The more interesting thing to me is, doesn't Schallamay in these times that we're in where
no one gets to be universally popular and everyone is polarizing, he never has bad
public rights. Right, does he? He's a bit, it almost feels like, overexposed here, right, just where it's like, he's been talking and talking and talking and talking and was eventually bound to put his foot in his mouth.
I mean, he's doing podcast about putting his foot in his mouth about what I was going
“to say, 1837, but you're proving my point, which is that like, if this is the worst thing”
that's been said, if this is the big controversy, you're doing a pretty good job. If when you're going on podcast with LeBron and Steve Nash and breaking down ball or Carmelo and doing that as well, like, he is everywhere right now and this wasn't really intended to be a shot at the art form. It was like, hey, I don't want to have to put the whole team on my back to get everybody
to the movies. We need to be able to create stuff that gets kids to the movies, right, just. I think it's also, it kind of proves his point because I think it's way easier for people
to see the 30 second clip and have a really strong reaction to it because it was mean and
dismissive and he shouldn't have said, like, no one cares about this. I would argue that, like, fewer people care about ballet and opera than, you know, cinema and film and movies and that was kind of what his point was, but it's a lot harder to sit down and watch a full hour-long interview and actually get a sense for what the context
“was, which I really, I think it kind of proves his point that, like, our attention spans”
kind of suck right now. And so, like, people just want to watch short videos and get outraged by them without taking the time to actually read what the conversation was about in the first place. Mike Ryan came in here crush today because Stanford lost to pit in the ACC tournament, which is now begun on both sides, women and men, your thoughts, the most interesting things
you've seen so far, not that there have been that many, as March Madness gets ready to start trembling.
First of all, the ACC tournament is so funny down because only three teams don't make
the ACC tournament because the ACC is too big for every team to make it now and, yes, Notre Dame was one of those teams. I don't know how pit made it, well, I do know because they beat Notre Dame like two weeks ago and pit is a terrible basketball team, but good for them got to win, but the most interesting thing happened during the game, which was that some random fan was loudly
and obnoxiously singing the Google Dolls during the game. Yeah, I regret not having the sound on for that game, as I was dying, I was dying, I was out then who had just standing up to a second TV because let's say when needs to be said, Google Dolls, Iris, Bangor, that's great, more of that, more people randomly singing at the 12 o'clock tip-off games of conference tournaments, it's a great guitar riff, you know,
the bridge. And Zaz, thank you for your bravery, somebody with the guts to say the ballet and opera, not their thing, oldies, oldies, that's definitely an oldie, yes, and even oldies, ancient, Google Dulse. You guys are putting all these. Google Dulse. Jay-Z. You're putting them in the Frank Sonatra
“Cruner's class. Yes, the big band class. If those are oldies, what are songs from the 1950s?”
Hold the end of your song. Hold the end of your song. Yes. Hold the end of your song. Jessica, what were your thoughts on the NBA turning around and canceling Magic City? Because of the public pressure, and I'm going to say it's just the sponsors, because of the sponsor pressure. First of all, did you guys see what Asia Wilson's boyfriend did last night? Yeah, we're not talking about thank you very much. Yeah, I've done. I guess not surprised
that they canceled Magic City night, but maybe a little bit surprised. And I read a really good interview with a woman who works for a worker's rights group for strippers and dancers and entertainers. And she was like basically saying I wish I had remembered what outlet it was and but it was a good interview and people should people should read it if they couldn't find it. But they're not going to be able to find it based on the way to the school. We must work
for strippers. I'll try to see how that goes for you. I'll find it. I've bookmarked it. Anyways, she was like, you know, pushing dancers and entertainers and strippers into the margins is not actually looking out for us. Luke Korn, I'm paraphrasing there. And I thought that that was very well set because there's been a lot of conversation about this whole promotion. And most of it has
Just been from the perspective of, you know, basketball players and media peo...
and not from the actual woman who worked at Magic City who thought that this was kind of a bummer.
“Check out her weekly Notre Dame podcast. The echoes with Michael Lick Jr. Yes.”
This is not an echo chamber. The echoes with Michael Lick Jr. Jessica, thank you. Good seeing you appreciate the time. Bye. Not enough Bam out of Bio talk with her. There will be none. I'm nearly enough Bam out of Bio talk on this show today, Dan. They're not nearly in there. There will be none of that with Jamal Hill. Maybe there will be some of it with Juju Gotti. But I am making this a Bam out of Bio free zone with Jamal Hill next.
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city night trying to frame it as this is about chicken wings and cultural identity, an iconic establishment in Atlanta Luke Cornet objects to it and a soon after sponsors object to it and then the NBA ends up canceling the night. What did you find interesting there? What I found interesting and I will be totally honest. I say this as somebody who has thrown many of
“money up in magic city. In fact the last time I went I think me and my husband when it was New Year's Eve”
we went to magic city and had a blast. What was most interesting to me? Notice most of the objections weren't from women. They were from men and this really surprised me and I think a lot of it is the
Fact that we don't put magic city culturally or even from just a pure strip c...
Spain category as other strip clubs. I mean you all have something pretty similar and I think a
diamond even though I was thinking a diamond is not necessarily the same cultural fixture that magic city is in Atlanta. Now I'm probably pretty biased because last summer in Miami I hosted a panel that was about magic city the docu series that's on stars which is very good and really takes you inside how this club became such a cultural fixture in the city. Could every city get away with what with a magic city night something after a famous strip club? No,
“but I think Atlanta could uphold it off but it was really interesting to me that most of the”
objections were coming from men and not from women. I'm going to make you feel even older. King of
diamonds is now a Cadillac dealership. I know you lie it. What? What is happening to my youth? It was a short run though. It was really in retrospect a star streaking across the sky. It does not have the kind of legacy that Tutsis would say. She this is this is all around the pressing conversation thanks Dan. The other thing I don't I will say just really quickly about magic city is you know people raise their eyebrows when I say this but it's true. The reason women in joy strip clubs
is it's the safest place for a woman to be. You can get good food. You can get great music. You
can see women who are very athletic dance and have conversations with them and the men leave
you alone because you're not the naked ones. So it's like the best place. You get all the things that you want to enjoy about a nightclub experience without being hassled by men on night.
“I'm serious when I ask this question in Atlanta what is a bigger cultural fixture as you say?”
Magic City or the Atlanta Hawks themselves? Magic City. I don't know if I have the right to say that as somebody who's not from Atlanta but while they're certainly the Hawks have had their moments obviously the Dominique Wilkins error is a pretty big one in Atlanta Hawks lore but I'll put it this way. If one of those institutions left which one would people be more heartbroken about and I would argue it might be magic city. You and Ryan Clark spoke to writer Ellen Briggs recently
about this extremely dangerous trend. You both have faced and countless others in sports media faced of having fake quotes attributed to you and then going viral. How often are you experiencing this and how bad is it? It's pretty bad and I would say and I'm probably being conservative
“by saying it recently and I just don't I understand how people are able to get away with it because”
once most of the social media platforms if not pretty much all of them dropped any kind of safeguards around false information and getting that out and not that what they had in place was perfect but at least it was something but what they decided to drop all all kind of these safeguards and and guardrails about you know profiting off of false information it has led to not just me and Ryan Clark but I'll just say people that they know will create a reaction and especially
if it involves rates or gender. Like the number of fake quotes I see supposedly coming from Angel Reese is astonishing and that's because for she's polarizing you know through in many ways you know no thought of her own so we know based off research that the people most abused on social media are women we also know black women are are right there you know maybe even higher than just women overall just black women in general and so if you could take somebody
like me who often speaks about racial and social issues that you could throw my face on a pretty looking postcard and a pretty looking graphic and have a quote that's totally made up the engagement goes through the roof and I have had to encounter this at least five times and I don't know even what else is circulating but I just know that when the vitriol shows off in my shows up in my inbox something somewhere has contributed to that and probably like
maybe one of the worst cases is when you know speaking of Angel Reese they found the way to put us you know together like combining their polarizing full trons to give maximum engagement and there was a fake quote that was circulating and that said the Angel Reese is the Michael
Jordan of the WNPA something I've never come close to remotely saying and the...
that that generated I mean I honestly hadn't been caught the inward that many times since I said
“what I said about Donald Trump like that's how bad it was and I'm just like it really blew my mind”
because let's just say in some crazy universe I did say that it's still a basketball opinion certainly nothing worthy of me receiving that kind of very dangerous and horrible feedback and so it's been a real problem I've been threatened many times because of these fake quotes and I just wonder what illegal recourse is for myself or others who have had to endure this because it's not right and then they're able to profit off of it and I don't know if it's bot farms I think according
to the article you know a lot of these sort of mechanisms are operating overseas and they're just
doing it for clickbait and engagement and monetization and it's it's really really horrible. when they're done are edited, he says catching save visa store. He'll get it. Yes, because those are also for being done laboratory are the stakes that
“high that if Angelace loses the Kaling Park you need to start over again as a race. Too guts.”
I don't know that we have to necessarily start over but it might have to be it will be a black people's meeting and important one that will be called the next day well we might have to put some things on the agenda and get it on the table. This is the time limit our show with us two guts. You and I have talked on South Creek sessions in elsewhere about you being in the office of John Skipper after our controversy that now seems quaint instead of poisonous the idea that
not that long ago you were calling Donald Trump a white supremacist and now all of a sudden we see everything that's happening you were crying and skippers off as if I had showed up next to you at that moment and said here's where we're going to be in America in 2026 and it looks like
“it presently looks right now. Would you have believed that things would have gotten this crazy?”
No and I often have said to people that it's the one it's a time where I wish I would have been proven wrong where I wish you know a year later or three years later or five years later people would have looked back at what I said or said hey remember when you said this and he's totally not that way this is completely different and I just would have had to wear a little egg on my face and as opposed to us being in this very dangerous moment being led by somebody who is a danger to
a lot of people's existence and frankly to this country and so I never wanted to be more wrong
about somebody than I was about Donald Trump but even even in my wildest imagination I didn't imagine this and the only reason I didn't imagine it getting to this level is because despite who he has surrounded himself with and we saw this in the first term is that while I had similar thoughts about the people he surrounded himself with these are people who sort of grew up in government and believed in the functioning of government the people around him now don't believe in that they want
not just chaos but they want to break government they want to completely break people's faith in the institutions and what it has exposed is that for a long period of time maybe throughout our entire history we have operated as if these institutions that we review and learn about in our history books were simply going to be able to stand for themselves with democracy is only worth it if the people actually defended the Supreme Court only means something if somebody is actually
willing to defend it the three branches of government only means something if someone is actually willing to enforce it and so what we have seen is not just his behavior showcasing our weakest and most vulnerable points as a nation we've also seen that the political cowardice really runs a month throughout our government to where even the people that say they want to protect these institutions actually really don't and so it just really teaches you how much people will lean
Into the most grossest things in order to have comfort you mentioned Angel Re...
a lot of work stoppages in your time as a journalist what do you think is going to happen with the
WNBA negotiations I always believe that a deal will get done 11 59 59 I don't know what the
back and forth is like at this point and I know for a lot of people they are you know thinking this
“will be a doom day scenario because the players are pretty dug in but I think a deal still will”
be done and I think the season will start on time it will be rushed a lot of it will be thrown together it'll be kind of chaotic but I think both parties realize even though the players they have a you know they they went through I think it was a few months ago where they you know they pre-authorized the strike which over 90% of the players were in favor of if it got to a point where they didn't get some of the things that they they want to get and I know some of that
is changed a little bit because they're sort of concerned and there's anxiety there and it's anxiety that I believe that the league purposely created I mean we had Neko Gomake who's the president of the Players Association on on Flavor and at Funny and you know they gave the league a proposal a counter proposal and the league sat on it for six weeks and I think they did that I agree with that to that they did that on purpose so that the players would then start to second
guess what they were standing for I mean everything I've seen has played out in so many labor negotiations in the past where the goal of the league is to break the union and by break the union meaning create enough anxiety so that the things that they need to stand and hold firm on so they'll back off those things and just basically creating division and friction and so hopefully the players don't go for it because this CBA could really set the table for the future
generations of the WMBA we see the money coming in it's 2.2 million dollar media rights deal they have multiple franchises now that are valued at over 300 million dollars I mean the the valkyries they just started two years ago and that franchises already value at 500 million the New York Liberty value at over 400 million dollars the players see this okay
and so they know if they don't stand firm on certain things they'll never get them in the future
it'll always be wait and I think as the money is coming in as they're building the business they deserve to to reap the rewards of building that business especially when you consider how many else they've taken to get to this point of having some kind of leverage in the negotiation you're a biased Homer on behalf of Michigan State certainly you cannot defend Jeremy Fears out here kicking people in the junk I can't defend it I watched the game I was watching
the game live then I will say live it didn't look like that and sometimes slow mo can sort of cast a different perspective on things like Jeremy Fears you are different you're different I am not affecting it I'm not hitting it I'm just saying that it didn't look that way live
“on the slow mo I understand but here's the thing Jeremy Fears is a hard competitor and”
I know that people are probably looking the fact that Draymond also went to Michigan State and tried to draw some kind of correlation and say oh is this the kind of player that Michigan State produces I will say this as an unabashed Homer of my university you talk to Eddie Coach they were much rather have to tell you to take the edge off then have to teach you how to have edge because they feel like they can't teach you how to have edge and play with a certain type of grip
I do think that the complaints from Michigan are rival now that they had from the previous matchup that was any slanting where overblown and a little whiny and now that that put a target on Jeremy's back to some degree and I thought that was wholly unfair but I understand why people have a problem with it had no problem with the call that was made I think Jeremy is a really excellent player he's got a competitive edge and he's he's got a nasty streak and he's just got to learn
“as he matures how to get a better hand along that stop kicking people in the jump that's what”
he's got to learn because he's a serial offender if you if you watched it live you would have never
thought that you would have never thought this not his first time doing it I mean it kind of looked
like one of those old school Rick flare ones where just like he's facing the referee and then like it wasn't the first time he's done he knew that he has created a lack of doubt I understand this
That people look at the reputation they say of course that's exactly what he ...
doing I I don't know if he did but I know that his reputation isn't going to do him any papers
“hold on to some degree that's undeserved all right hold on a second we've got a list here a top five”
list top five Jeremy fears are you ready go ahead number five my top five Jeremy we got it
number five hi number five I already said that number four a baseball lockout number three
“my wife realizing she's so much better than me number two Dan number we being removed from”
streaming services you could watch new episodes of playground and funny with Jamel and her
long time friend Terry champion as I mentioned and it's Jamel Hill on YouTube politics on her
“YouTube channel the YouTube channel is it's Jamel Hill always nice seeing you Jamel thank you”
all right good to see you guys
