Hour 2: Work In A Salad

I mean, it's going to join us in a little bit here. We'll get his weekend observations.

“I also want to get his thoughts on the conversation we were just having and play for all of you.”

Mike Wilbond's last appearance with us where he was complaining like an old guy, the way that Barkley and Shack do about today's NBA. I was actually surprised by his response because Mike Wilbond has loved basketball, like very few people I've ever known in my life to see him shower on today's sport. Actually caught me off guard, but before I do that, I wanted to ask David and all of

you if you're watching specifically what's happening at CBS as Stephen Goldcober does. The best show he's ever done. Free us show talking politics at nightly in a way that he's uniquely equipped for and to see Jimmy Kimmel's evolution from the man show to now

“he's regularly tackling politics and the both of them are doing something that's in the”

realm of Bill Mar while the established late night entity of Johnny Carson falls apart

because Jimmy Fallon can't do what Colbert has always done and what Kimmel has grown into

doing. But CBS is bought and paid for what's happened to one of our legacy media items is about to collapse as soon as Colbert leaves and you will see nothing on there ever again that feels anything like what Colbert is presently doing. His shows on fire like if you watch right now, he's honoring what John Stewart did when bringing the daily show up as a credible news outlet that's fighting for democracy and it's a gesture fighting against our

dull and competent corrupt pholonius king. A court jester who's doing his job correctly, but are you watching David? Everything specifically happening at CBS where there is a billionaire corporate takeover that is trying to turn it into something that more resembles Fox News and isn't in any way something that is in any way aspiring to objectivity. Well Fox News is actually not all that in good grace is either with the government and really what the bigger concern is

is whether or not you can threaten to take away the license of a media company for not talking about an issue the way the president wants you to talk about it. That to me is the most concerning issue where you need them to talk about the war and Iran in a certain way or you will threaten them with their lifeblood. It is absolutely should be scary to everyone here no matter your political views if there is a risk of a state run media. I haven't seen I have I have

I have not seen what is presently happening in media in my entire lifetime not adult lifetime even reading about history I'd have to go back to McCarthyism to feel anything like what it is there's presently happening with the government weaponizing all sorts of things in order what about you. I thought that was state run that was part of the problem. But state run media. No but that's talking you're talking about 1959 that's before McCarthyism you're talking about something the last

“thing that I could remember that feels anything like what is presently happening in an”

around the media where the government is actively trying to create fear that changes the way that

all of these free speech enterprises do business it's something I've never seen in my life this is

something that no one listening to this is seen in their life. They're coming after Tucker Carlson too I don't know if you guys saw that accusing him of being some sort of Iranian spy essentially because he was texting back and forth with someone before the strike happened and that part was very surprising to me. Oh it's not right right he's now that's the whole problem with dealing with the authoritarian policy is that you think you're in but then you're out and when you're out you can't get back in

and everybody who's in becomes out and then all of a sudden you're left with one person sitting alone at the top. Trump has lost Alex Jones. So this is the process that happens and so the question is can we hold on long enough? Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones now aren't far right enough. It's not about far right to me anymore it's really not about make America great it's really about who is going to only do what he wants when he wants you to do it the way he wants you to do it it's not

really about far right or far left. Yeah he's lost plenty people on the far right that don't think he's far right enough because of what he ran on like Nick Fuentes is essentially a Nazi he's a

files this guy ran on no wars like those are two central platform issues for many on the far right isolationism you can't be claiming that when you're again yet another Middle Eastern war with no real plan so he's lost a lot of people that are still white nationalists on the right

“for not going overboard one of the things that you have to focus on as we hit the midterms”

and as we go on is what position will Republicans take and is it possible that you can go back to being a Republican because what got lost with Trump 145 and Trump 147 is people who are run to the middle Republicans they there's no room for that many more and if you're seeing the possibility of room again and that room is manifested by voting Democrat that's when you get it

well let's let's talk about the control of the media and let's talk for a second about a post-truth

world because I think we're already there when you talk about the things that my parents warn me about which is you can't trust the propaganda you can't trust the media you cannot trust the way the communism fell in Cuba in the late 50s and early 60s has all of the things in it that were presently talking about minus the artificial intelligence minus the fact that I now and if this is been the case with me for a while but I'm a little stunned to see it happening with the young people

“around here I just don't know what's real anymore when I'm watching just about anything and my wife”

who's younger than me can spot all of this stuff better than me when I'm watching an ad and she's like that's not a human being talking that's a fake mouth on that person and I'm like I don't see what you're seeing here but it's happening now all over the place in a way that's more confusing than it's ever been and it's only gonna get worse imagine when the propaganda was just you can't believe what you're reading in a newspaper because they can fake that now my eyes are consistently

lying to me no we're beyond cooked and I don't know if we ever get back from because AI is only gonna get better but the started really in the 2010s with Facebook targeted messages that essentially helps weigh that election and now here we are where you're counting fingers and and looking at how

much coffee might be spilling out that's always my go to I gotta look at the fingers it's insane

and the conservative oligarchies assault on truth has been a wild success sometimes it looks like hey the verified account doesn't have a blue check anymore have fun that's because you get to decide your own truth which means we get to manipulate you and we get to devise our own truth too we don't actually have to be accountable if we're beholden to journalistic principles we're gonna consolidate all the true journalism companies and they're gonna be owned by oligarchs too

I don't think there's any coming back from it because I don't know if we're gonna have that

“brand reshaping here in this country you need to have a set standard at least federally here in the”

United States that if something is AI it needs to be tagged I don't know if we're gonna get there

it certainly won't be this administration and by then by the time you have an administration change

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boobs two guts so good out this is the done live at our show with this two guts a meme is here and I want to get him in on the conversation we were having before this from a mean as was wondering whether inside the NBA has gotten too negative as a studio show let's play this sound of Michael will bond again Michael will bond obviously a voice from my youth on loving basketball more than all of the other sports by leaps and bounds and I was really

surprised when this was his answer to my question recently the sport today and it's evolved form where players are getting heard all over the place they're playing a different style 53's a game everything that's happening in the sport do you love it the same way that you did I hate it I hated this week more than ever I wanted to come and sit down and watch a real game between Oklahoma city and set Antonio the other night and then I find out half the people aren't playing which is the

norm it's the norm for half the people you paid to see whether you paid to see in person or at home I wanted a nine streaming just surfaces that makes it so you don't even know where the games are you even know where they are is it on primes of a ESPN it's an NBC NBA TV where the hell's the game I can't find it how's the Charles Barkley one night and Arizona recently we're having dinner and we were like hey we gotta go watch that game and Charles and I both look each other go where's the game

where is it two people who are employed to talk about basketball on national television don't know where the damn game yeah but that's just old guys that's just you know it's not old guys no it is it actually isn't I asked my son about it he's 17 he plays high school basketball I don't like all start a weekend talk about lightweight and talk about the the NBA's had years to address and fix the officer again and apparently is afraid to who do they not want to cross they don't want to cross

LeBron they don't want to cross who is they don't want to offend that I doubt I doubted those two guys but who are they who's the league of a friend to offend you want to put a game out there international players versus U.S. you have interest in that the moment the Superbowls over you that fascination with that scared to do it and they come up with three teams this is just lazy you know what it is I know I'm not going to curse and say what I want to say you know what it is

starts to be at an S. We're going to bring in a mean here who I want to commend because I'm trying to change my relationship with the NBA because of a means valid criticisms of my opinions because I subscribe to all these tropes let me re-engage with the sport and let me see if it's actually entertaining again so I'm doing that right now a mean we've played these opinions from Mike Willbonshack and Charles Barkley and how they sound crotchety and an old and disgusted with

old and crotchety the only thing that's different is that they're actually old right now I mean Shack was complaining about the NBA when you had traditional bigs Dwight Howard wasn't good enough of a traditional big man for Shack so I'm sure he's not going to like some guy that doesn't come

“out to the perimeter I think the only difference here is these guys have just gotten older but their”

opinions are the same yeah I mean Shack for sure I told the story on this program a million times

but I saw Shack the year the Warriors won their first championship this was in January February of that year so they saw him won anything and I saw him out and he said hey how's it going down it I would say who do you think's going to win I said who do you think's going to win big fella and he said nobody's beating them like skin boys from going to the state this is someone who absolutely understands the modern game showed me video soon after of his high school son who's six nine or

six ten and how is nothing but perimeter based he said this is the way the game is played and they do it better than anyone else so Shack's not like oh I can't believe they shot so many

that's not at all his real opinion the problem is when you're dealing with Shack you're dealing

with someone who constantly feels like I got to play a character I got to be on now sometimes the character services his own legacy meaning I played this way so if I speak ill of playing that way we'll basically what have I done to my own legacy I've run it so sometimes he speaks in service of that sometimes he speaks in service of just being antagonistic and we've seen it all the time even within the context of the show against Barkley tell him you're opinion doesn't matter because

you've never won a championship this is all someone who is playing a role on TV and a role that's rewarded him quite handsomely when it comes to will bond I this is where I see him getting old because he's complaining about not knowing where the game is instead of saying wow the game is now on in more places for people who don't have to get a league pass subscription instead of doing that he's he's complaining about in the first year of a new TV rights deal having to find some

new stations that's all it is five years from now well we still hear these complaints probably well what do you make in general of the negativity of the coverage you still love the sport you get

mad at Mike when he's that critical of it your passion shows all the time you're enthusiasm

has not wane jet fam Gandhi was let go at least in part because he was criticizing officials too much your enthusiasm for the game is infectious what do you make of old people railing against the

“game I don't think Javan going to got let go because he's critical I think Javan going to”

got let go because ESPN does weird things sometimes when they let people go who are more than qualified to do their job that's that's I truly believe that only because let me just wait if the NBA was pressuring ESPN about coverage there'd be a lot of people who got let go there'd be a lot of people who got let go immediately you can believe what you want here I have slightly more information than you do here on why it is and how it is Jeff and Gandhi was let go and it's not quite as random

as one bozo executive making dumb decisions like they had a problem I do happen to have an unknown you know Jeff they happen to happen to know they have a problem they had a problem with how negative he was on the house of them as the the kind of the whether vein of which way or bell that they go of which way you know these things are going but overall then

“negativity sells across the board and everything it seems like and I think people went 10 toes in”

on just this negative coverage and it's funny I heard you earlier mentioned all players don't like Berkeley man like I've been listening to somebody's player shows they don't sound enthusiastic or positive either it's just they don't like when someone else does it right when when they complain about who are these guys that are held you know who haven't played how dare they have opinions like because some of your opinions are all about hey when I did it when I it's all about again servicing your legacy and your

resume rather than just seeing it how it is and as I thought you were absolutely right and that's I mean I guess everyone go play some bits tonight because Zaz got something right like the idea of like hey man we it's okay to say Saturday night was a fun game and we don't have to look at it in the big picture this is me they're gonna win a title no we can just talk about Saturday night to the teams in the western conference jocky and proposition and we got a great game and we can just talk about that

this conversation started is that they did not they weren't wowed by the greatness of what should

have been important the the larger point as it relates to that specific game is what regular season game is going to get you excited if that one between the makers and the nuggets with all the stars playing with a controversial ending isn't the one that gets you excited but then at the same time I feel like everybody sports journey includes a rearing by the people who brought you that sport

“so for me I think of people like walk-on-clad Fraser I think of Bill Walton I think of the”

Collins I think of Isaiah Thomas I think about all those guys who in my formative years of watching basketball these are you be brown people who are breaking down what's happening in the game and why should do things this way why should do things that way and overall being fairly positive about the game you're right then I love this game was the slogan of the NBA I think the thing they should bring it back because you got to make it flip that switch a positivity and love over

eternal negativity by everything now positivity doesn't mean we never criticize positivity doesn't mean

everyone's always awesome I got a weekend observation note about Doug Christie talking about oh we never tank in Sacramento like you know like that doesn't mean I got to be a way to go

“Doug Chris you're doing a great job but it does mean that when something good happens like”

damn out of bioscoding 83 points let's not sit around and nitpicking till this reasons why this 83 point doesn't matter because this time the other way and we know you go through history all these big scoring events have the same element in it and that's my biggest thing when it comes to NBA

criticism it's when things are being done that have always been done but we're gonna pretend like

it's brand new right now we're gonna get to I mean's weekend observations in a second but let's here Reggie Miller here defending the 83 point performance of Bamm out of bio I don't care Virginia local church league you get a chance to go for history you go for it and I'm so tired of all these podcasts and all these guys that never played the game talking about all the same today and they ruined basketball I do not care 83 is 83 and more comfortable struck ever banned to be getting

a lot of hate from this your hate is misdirected because it should be towards the Washington Generals I know there was a way they were playing they look like the Washington General okay

“but that's what your hate should be I mean your thoughts there so number one I agree 100 percent”

with Reggie number two Reggie's a guy who's an old guy who's drafted in 1987 who played much of his career in an era where the game didn't look like was it does now and Reggie for the most part is a positive voice when he talks about games now people hate Reggie Miller for other reasons I can't speak that but like but again the other thing that we're victims of is we focus in on the negative voices when there are a lot of people on broadcast not on podcasts not on these weird you have to

dig to find it on the national broadcast who speak about the game in a glowing and positive manner but what I want to do is not to be the champion of the studio master by tag leaptor bücher soft behind the internet as a master's realtor ah say you can say that to Rekouin you're my friend of a steuer but you don't know egal zauber word for lust for trag make the ganz einfach mit wiso steuer and when they then are working he says catchin save wiso steuer

hold it then get to ruck now scosten us out for being done laboratory there's a matter anywhere we could do it in Buffalo or Baltimore even you say you could do it anywhere oh whoa oh that's crazy that's crazy that's crazy murder murder tell them stugots i had no idea of me not that in his locker that might be his death that's crazy killer it's too America's dead you don't get it this is the unlabattar show with a stugots you mentioned bill 1 here is a photo from years ago

of the late bill 1 we forget how tall these human beings are and how regular things in life don't apply to them they can't shower in normal showers in hotel rooms they cannot sleep in normal beds and their legs are so long that they have to sit on three banquet hall chairs you had a bad

well he needed so it's for his knees it's for his legs it's why the players on the NBA bench

“they sit on that huge cushion Phil Jackson when that started go back and watch Phil Jackson with the”

bulls that was in regard to the pain he's right but the players who said on it today it's because of their knees what they've what do you discuss what are you doing what are you doing you try to prove a point by finding something to feel well no no because i disagree you're probably doing it or a show now I mean we can observations in this time for a mean to share his game notes no one in the media will tell you what happened better than my

boy I mean we can observations brought to you by Miller late legendary moments start with the

light otherwise I could see David's legs on his way out he should hold the only see me from the waist up thing is we should put a bunch of chairs in there for him to sit in for his long legs not enough chairs then last night at the Oscars there were a lot of rooting interests some people wanted Michael B. Jordan the win best actor and he did some people wanted PTA to win best director and he did if it's him to want to mister nobody versus putting the win best documentary

and it did I want to train dreams to get shut out of every possible category and buy God it did just like that make no mistake and anonymity for that piece of shit movie is back the gone boring dribble oh I had to listen this all weekend lovely little train for him to solve beautiful boring nothing happens in it train dreams it's like picking all the boring parts of red dead redemption too and making a movie out of it oh you want to just pick certain herbs

and flowers and then write around for 20 hours or across American West yeah that's it congrats to team USA wait ago on the road in a hostile environment and get a win it's got a hurt for the public right I get team USA at losses literally dozens of other sports that we turn our attention to like okay cool what's next let's do that one this is literally the only thing that the R has no no what they say okay look at poppy i'll propose is there manager

working a salad whoa what we you and me camping making that joke need to be said the work in a salad

“work in a salad I do is why is it meal is he looking big this is that's what he's saying yeah”

who made it a salad why is that damn why is it life people can make life people jokes but fat people can't make fat people dope yeah right like if you guys made a black person joke I'd be offended but if I make a fat person joke you're offended but if you make a fat person joke now it's taboo it's called hypocrisy I mean uh thank you thank you bro you're welcome victim and yama hippo there's the other day that the inflammation and swelling is down

all over his body except for in one place hey when we leave the cheeky humor to ant man your job is to be the NBA saint nobody comes to a Jerry side felt Joe expecting Richard prior material if you're looking for an independent sports and entertainment podcast network with great content like pack your knives basketball illuminati here's the science and synafol check out count the dogs i mean things out the ding count the dogs is a totally

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called a callback folks in comedy to things that happen in yesterday's show speaking of synafol synafol episode 303 the long-awaited much requested everyone's been dying for this one Tommy boy this movie set the standard for comedy for a generation of white people including my co-host and my freshman year college roommate at Georgia Tech for black people not so much synafol where we get pockets you got like Tommy boy let me ask that's you love Tommy boy right

love it never seen it absolutely I wasn't even going for that joke says they never seen it

your racial line your convenient racial tropes yeah Roy you're not being an ally right now I'm sorry

but it's a foul you keep a six packus a beat soda in here I'm with your mean swag Roy the Ravens Roy disagrees but what about Roy what about Roy's opinion here you're yet Roy side swiped you he is saying that he is a black person who liked Tommy boy Roy watch me being ally then we are not a monolith

“there you go that's how you do that good job Bobby while winning you said it's white people movie you made white”

people a monolith you did that I didn't do that you did that damn you do you like Tommy boy I do now Ravens now where are we on what are we doing with Tommy boy Tommy boy is not funny we all wanted to say it's not funny crazy and for for years I had to hear people say something in something baby boys with a whiny and he and think that's like that yeah in a little

little shirt see I beat you to it it's not funny that's just a fact I little co you any paint chips as a kid did you Chris Farley's not funny you could take a bull and put it up your ass but but I'll take your word for a butcher I mean that's what he put you put you put it on the pole at my car show was Chris Farley funny go ahead of me I give Chris Farley a lot of credit for

“being an incredible physical comedian he was not afraid to put his body on the line he was”

incredibly nimble despite being a bigger guy doing cartwheels and stuff not for me not for me

where did he get the energy to do all of that never been couchypping before what you do you put

your shoulders into it and you push you are proving a means point you specifically it's a good impression but the fact that he can resign every single every single line from that movie is if he's been studying the script at home it's herbie handcuff when it's that old when the movie stand home he has proven that every point a means point bo Derek Roblo was ineffectual in that movie he wasn't even in good shape that was a 90's for you the ravens

void in the max cross be deal that would have sent Vegas two for from picks that they sign train Hendrickson to a deal thus losing zero first round picks oh I know you're not here

“but put that in the something the ponder file hey march madness five's me of last year”

getting in a heated spirited debate in the office with Florida Lump Ethan Badozki I have the gators had no shot to make it to the final four debatdling to a stalemate I walked away and mentioned a microphone to us I haven't watched the single second of Florida basketball since Nick colletis that time of year gym or say it's a state sale

netted 93 million dollars including Muhammad Ali's fight role from Ali list in two

from his first public appearance after changing his name the cat from cashes clay to Muhammad Ali that sold for four hundred and forty four thousand dollars McJackie Robertson bat from the 1953 season sold for four hundred and six thousand dollars and a meet spiral notebook containing 28 pages of silvester still owns original rocky script sold for five hundred and eight thousand dollars

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crayons scribbles in the back of a utility bill wherever you get podcasts WM made commissioner Kathy Engelberg setting an artificial deadline of today for a deal to get done to avoid disruption of the season textbook create a sense of urgency negotiation tactic I learned this yesterday Shalame is older than SGA

and about a year younger than Janice think about how y'all talk about these people and then put in the perspective that dude is older by three years than SGA

ridiculous and be a board of governors meeting this week to export two new expansion locations

“Vegas and Seattle arc my words if the Vegas expansion team is not also”

gaming licensed operator in the state of Nevada it will work David I'm interested in your opinion on that they're not going to allow them to have an independent source of revenue that the other teams don't get they're not going to get it licensed as their own team is part of expansion I don't think that no I'm saying if they're not already licensed so if it's not

someone who already owned a gaming operation in Nevada it will never work

it's the most saturated market in the world in terms of venues per capita there can have gambling inside the arena if you're referring to that where you can have slot machines and games eventing David how do you make money at your building on non-game

“b-night no you have to have other events you have to have this fear is struggling for”

this reason it cost way too much and the ability to get events every night in a building makes it too hard because your boss has helped a lot it's not it's not that it's not the just the ability to act it's the ability to get acts in the most saturated per capita than you market you're not just in New York you're competing barclays and MSG in Vegas there's no shortage of 16 to 20,000 seed venues and they all have casinos attached

to them you know which one doesn't the sphere that's why they're struggling they totally connected to the Venetian what do you what do you do exactly who owns the sphere David do it who owns the Venetian not Dolan you're talking about the sphere making money as a standalone entity it's because the suspense of turning on the lights is way more than T-Mobile Arena every time they do an event there I'm talking about when you own a gaming

operation next door it doesn't matter you can take an L on the event because you're funneling them to your slot machines that's why by the way the Cleveland Cavaliers make money hand over fist because they have a gaming operation literally attached via skyway to their arena so you're assuming the mets with their casino now where the chop shops are they're in good shape they're gonna they're about to be in a lot better shape than they've ever been leave it to the kings

to even be bad at being bad winners of two straight five and five in their last ten

head coach Doug Christie defiantly announced the kings will never hang I said oh so you

guys are 18 and 51 by trying your best there's a Marco Bellonelli documentary coming out no we're a long way from the last dance folks no hell we doing yeah hell art trials those are the weekend observation that one Bellonelli summary though he had to be there

“a me you remember that one I was there man it was the gold estate warriors or all trying to break”

their own wreck the assembly square record it was between Bellonelli Anthony Moro and Anthony Randolph and all three of them you couldn't have told me on that day that those guys weren't going to run the league in like three years they were amazing the New York Jets have traded just in fields to the Kansas City chiefs that just happened according to the athletic I am found I found that I'm surrounded by complete indifference about this and everything that I look at in the room I mean

your thoughts last night on the Oscars oh you know it was our I've again I was just rooting for a one eventuality and that was for train dreams to get blocked on everything that make it sucks oh no I'm gonna be negative on this David because I posted my rankings of the best movies I watched from the Oscar nominees I said number one was begonia I thought that was the best move not that it was gonna win I'm just saying that was the best movie I saw I thought

sentimental value was incredible I actually thought it would win because it was about a film maker

in part and I thought that would get to your academy really invested did win not it was I thought it would win best picture is is what I thought but yeah it's sentimental value I thought was just an incredible movie you thought the best movie of the year was begonia it was the most creative story most entertaining and incredible performances by Emma Stone and by my man of Jesse Feminis Jesse I just didn't like the ending I liked it all the way up until the last like 15 minutes

I don't know how I don't know how they were supposed to land that plane but you know I just

because without spoiling it I I found myself because the movie is about how people will believe

“whatever they want to believe and they're gonna believe it to a crazy extent right and it's kind of”

a real commentary of the world that is that we live in today and then the ending kind of subverts

that a little bit but but I thought it was an incredible movie sentimental value was incredible too

but I know that people don't like reading subtitles so there's that David I want to know

what you think of this list this is from a mean on the movies of the year he's got at number 10

train dreams and then there's a canyon sized gap and then number 9 F1 number 8 ham net number 7 there's a big gap between Hamnet and number 7 Frankenstein there's a big gap between

“number 6 Marty Supreme number 5 centers number 4 one battle number 3 secret agent number 2”

sentimental value and as he says number 1 for going on what was the big gap I don't know you could do a big gap at a top 10 that is brand new for me well I put the gaps in their David to indicate to people that there is like so for instance between two and three there's a massive

“massive leap to me the sentimental value and secret agent they're like tears yeah like tears yeah”

I just want to make it clear that it's not like the same separation between one and two as there's from two and three and definitely not the same separation between two and three as a risk from nine and ten ten was I'm glad we made all that clear I'm glad the Oscars made it clear