Local Hour: Dan's Civic Duty

And I thought I wasn't doing the show today.

I was a jury duty, and I ran a jury duty. Why are you making that sound? You don't need to do that. What do you mean I don't need to do that? But there's a jury.

What? Have you been summoned? I don't know. If I have I threw in garbage. What do you do when? What do you normally do when?

It's a civic duty responsibility and honor. But somebody to be a jury of your peers is a symbol of freedom. What are you doing? So I have to go sit on a jury instead of doing things that I want to do. Sounds like a suck-a-move.

Or that, I thought it was a civic duty and you just don't show up and there's been no consequences. I'm right. You live in my life. What are they going to do then? What are they?

Seriously. What are they going to do? You're going to ask this government if you ever got the letter. You could see what they would threaten to do at the very least.

But I don't think it's certified mail, so you can always say, "Never got it."

That's right. It comes down to the character of the man. Put it or woman. Put it on the poll at Lebetard Show. I'm an ally.

Kim. That was really helpful there. And people from Mike, no one knew what he was talking about. So I'm glad we stepped up. Put it on the poll at Lebetard Show.

“Are there any consequences to not going to jury duty?”

Because if there aren't consequences as, aren't nobody would go. Okay, but am I not living proof? Well, I don't know how many times you've gotten something that you're actually thrown in the mail, thrown in the garbage can. I don't know.

The notice looks very official and they do threaten you with a fine. Yeah, but hold on a second. So I just purchased a house and they send you so much crap in the mail that it's like, if you don't pay this, you're going to be a really big trouble. You're going to do rip it up and throw it away because half is an absolute scam.

The other half may be different, but I don't know. Yeah, where does it say that the stuff that comes in my mail box I have to open? And good luck calling me for anything. Every 100% of my calls, they got to be scam.

I'm never answering the phone ever again.

Never. Put it on the poll at Lebetard Show.

“Have you gone weeks lately without answering your phone?”

Because I don't use my phone as a phone anymore. It's a computer. But when you mention mail, you guys will like this update from my leading the local news squatter story. I went by the house yesterday that that had that squatter in it.

Seven packages he had delivered to the front of the house in my life while he's in jail. One of them. Did you open them? A soul of some sort of Jesus, luckily you got him who knows. He was planning on doing a lot of stuff to the house apparently.

He needed to do some work on the house there? Yes, a renovating. There was, there were some under cabinet lights, like there was all sorts of stuff. He was, look man, I avoided a terrible situation. I'm thinking by very little amount of time because once he changes the door knobs and

he's got the keys to the house, I'm talking to the officer and I no longer have the keys to my own house, like that and he had the door knobs already. He was planning a full-scale renovation. Well, I don't know how much I'm allowed to talk about this because there are victims here and I want to be careful of that.

I'm very mindful of that, but also squatter's rights is one of those fotho things. Like I know that they're technically protected by law. I'd test that. I drag somebody out to the lawn and let's see who the law decides. What's what?

Or I just take off the doors and say I'm sorry, I'm making some renovations. Purdue was a number one seed as? Because of the JCPenney. Looks like it's bad Jack, it's bracket tops, oh, make a chart, does Jeff and Gunney look just like the Queen of Heart, does Adam Silver, look like a torpedo man, let's get more sadness back on track, looks like it's back Jack. When the Donuts are in front of you, there's any reason I don't mind if I do.

“Adam Silver looks like a cube to play, or fight a megabondance, when Timmy left, until he has that's how you know that looks like it's bad Jack.”

Let's keep on doing it every here, so Adam versus Mr. Bond will come to catch it, Jeff Fisher, looks like shotgun appears at an escort track, if you say this kid, the best I'll say is a gag, looks like it's bad Jack.

Jim Harba looks like a Casca salesman.

Fairly Dickinson, 16 seed, rep by.

“Might may Daniel look like a college student on a full rise scholarship for Eastburgs, what a run.”

They were down for, they were down 4 points with 52 seconds left. I really fell in love with that basketball team because of how tough that basketball team is for the University of Miami.

And they end up losing to Purdue, and the reason they lose to Purdue is as is because while they were going one for eight from three at the start of the second half,

Purdue shooting 75% from three from for the second half after losing their three point shooter to an injury, Purdue was ripe to be taken down. They played a very poor game for Purdue. Miami forced them into some of that, but they lost Cox a player that they needed, but they just kept making threes and they crushed Miami.

“The best season in terms of feel good, I think that Miami has ever had even though it didn't go deep as deep as some other seasons have gone because it's the biggest turnaround in division one history.”

The last season was the worst season in program history, and they turned it around, and it's the biggest turnaround to ever, and I really grew to like that basketball team and they just got beat by randomness at the end.

Oh, I don't think it was randomness. I thought Purdue executed at a much higher level, and they were better, which is, you know, there were the number two seed for a reason.

They had a little midseason hiccup and found their form in the tournament that they killed Miami on those high screens. And I thought Jay Lucas did the right thing and haven't sheltered and Henderson tried a guard, the big tens of all time leading a cis leader, and he just ate them up. Miami had no answers for it all game long. It helps that they had a shooting guard that flatly did not miss, but there's no taking away the feel good from this season. That was the single greatest one year turnaround in that sports history, beyond proud and excited for next year with a five star coming in and proof of concept to show the entirety of the transfer portal.

Miami's headed in a great direction. It'll be fun to watch Henderson's growth once he learns to shoot because he is still young and you learn in some of these games that these guys are just learning how to play basketball. The defense of Florida we can give Iowa the credit for a really wonderful play with eight seconds left, but Florida can't allow that to happen that way.

“And then the end of the same John's game. Like that's just it's just people learning how to play basketball that we're treating like a like professionals. Can you guys tell me?”

Did they start this year with the half time interviews of players because we're treating them perfect. We're treating them like professionals and they're all just learning how to play basketball, even though some of them are making $2 million a year. But I have found strange watching players interview during the game. They started doing some of that in college football last year. When did this start happening? Like when when were player interviews part of the media package did it come with the pay?

I reached out to an SID because I had never seen it before. Now granted, I just jumped back in because the last two seasons of Miami hurricanes bats get bald. It's really crushed my passion for this sport. But they've replaced coaching interviews at halftime with player interviews. I'd never seen it before. It's all new access for the NCAA tournament. So when Mike says those ads look, Purdue is better. They're the two seed and their execution was great. But even with what I told you Miami one for eight from three and produce 75% from three in the second have they're still down four with 50 seconds left.

The three points shooting, the free throws as well. Too many fouls. Purdue is on the free throw on a lot. I thought late in the first half. I'm watching, you know, can't do it in this game. You know, they were up latex seven at the time. Just so physical, you know, and then they just couldn't make shots. Miami was more athletic than them, but Purdue undersized on the perimeter still found a way to stay in front of the opposing player. Miami didn't feel comfortable really attacking the basket. It was weird. They're looking for fouls, but they're also looking for contact and terrified to go to the line.

I think we have a photo of him at the concession. So funny. In full uniform here at the con course by all accounts was super nice to anybody that approached him in full uniform waiting for some pizza in the con course. You don't really see that often. Not big time and anyone just waiting is turned. Yeah, he was he was a little timid, which we saw a little bit of that in the first half against Mizzou as well. I think ultimately just ran into a team that's better. And this is your one with J. Lucas building.

It makes it really easy to play basketball when you can shoot threes and the other team can. I felt a little bad to on Friday night. Now granted, you know, the game was in Mizzou race. You know, you're going to have a Mizzou crowd there. But there was no one there all weekend for the canes. Like there were no canes fans there zero. That's why it sucks at it. They put it in St. Louis and the next round would have been in San Jose. You didn't get a break from that from that perspective. But again, they ran into a team that kind of kicked their asses in the second half.

If you wear it and then you get super excited for where this pro is always in the sweet 16 like they're really good every year. They play to really get beat and they get beat by a bad team in sweet 16 that goes on a run or they get beat early. Like that's their m old. They always get this early. This is the the second time in history that everybody in the sweet 16 is represented by a power conference. Oh, really. Yes. And the the previous time was last year Texas and Iowa are your Cinderella's. It's a little bit different. Now you can't call Texas and you can't do it.

One of the other great teams in Miami history, the Tim James team also lost to Purdue, Jean Katie. I was not aware that Matt Painter, the Purdue coach has coached the 21 years since Katie. I did. I was not aware that Katie was gone for 21 years and they just simply replace him. It's a little hard to replace the legend correct. But he's just stayed there for 21 years. You guys have seen this Calvin Samson sound right Purdue doesn't have any pre ordained right to be as good as they are in Calvin Samson was giving some sound for Houston where he's explaining that they're good despite what is in today's day and age. The biggest handcuffs you can have in college sports.

We have a very poor athletic department. We're poor. You know, we're poor when I got here and we're still poor. We probably have the lowest budget of anybody in power for you know and you know the way our recruiting is going we have to stop at some point because we don't have enough money to keep bringing in really good players. And that's not easy for us to do people ask about recruiting.

“You know, teams that have the best recruiting classes usually have the most money as the way it is today.”

That's simplified. In case you heard the loud thudding sound about 90 seconds ago that was a mean trying to sneak into the show quietly and dropping his computer on the floor.

So I mean first contribution to our work week is failing to sneak in quiet.

And he's in the worst seat possible.

“I can't even see him all I see is the camera that's in front of me. So I simply can't see a mean that the camera that's in front of me.”

You know, it's not just an obstructed view. It makes it look like the camera in front of me has a human body and is wearing a sweatshirt, but the cameras right where it means faces and it knocks out the entirety of his face.

So I can't tell while I make fun of when he how he walked in. I can't even tell if he's laughing or if he's bothered by this, but he is indeed in the worst seat.

It's just a spaceship from 2001 to Space Odyssey. Hello Dan. You're having a wonderful show today.

“You just made it better. Thank you for being here. I want to update our tournament some because I got to get rid of a whole bunch of teams.”

But I don't want to just skip past what this University of Miami season was just because they lost at the end. We don't get many opportunities to sell this would have been in the last five years.

They're third appearance to the sweet 16 if the last 50 seconds had been a little bit different and sandwiched in there is the worst season in program history.

And you don't get a lot of opportunities to have someone knocked out a little earlier than you'd like and still do the craps role thing of good season, good role, good season, hell of a run because what they did was really impressive to watch and I really just found myself enjoying the way they played basketball because they played so hard. They were they were clearly trying all the time. Let me ask you this question before we get to our tournament. Are you like me? I had to learn to like this style because obviously I'd prefer making free throws nothing makes a bat a sports fan rip their hair out more than a team that just can't make free throws.

Or they practiced a fruit of the way to make your free throws. I could not shoot the game is involved to a point that people shoot from the outside, but this is another reason why I've kind of gravitated to college basketball and that these teams have identities.

We're in the pros, everyone kind of plays the same style. That's one of the things I'm really enjoying about the tournament too.

“They'll take mid-range jumpers, they're using the floor, you know?”

Yeah, I don't have the delusions of grandger, right? I know what my team is. I had to get used to it. I'm like, all right. Well, Jay says we're going to throw it at the shot clock and go get it and try to be more athletic and rebound these. That's who we are. Let's get a shift and get after these guys. And this team made me adapt. I underestimated their talent and man. Thank God for them. Injected this program that felt a little lost after Jim Leronega knew that the time was right to step away.

I'm so excited for the future. I hope we can keep our coach, but this team was really, really fun.

And honestly, it's so ring in them. This was one of the best regular seasons ever. And I mean, it's not a joke of a basketball program, Dan. They, especially in the 21st century, they have some bonus feed days. They went to an early day. They went to a final four. They've won this conference. They haven't won an in football. They've won an in basketball. There's something about college hoops this time of year where you tell yourself, you're just going to casually watch one game. And suddenly, your entire night is gone. That happened to me the other night. I was planning to say home and keep a game on in the background.

Maybe pretend I wasn't checking scores every five minutes. Then a text comes in. We've got multiple screens set up.

“That's how they get you. So I said, yeah, I grabbed the pack of Miller light on the way a little while later. Nobody's casually watching anything.”

Somebody's yelling because their bracket is already cooked. Somebody else suddenly cares deeply about a school.

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“Stugats. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do Lincoln who you out in the other day don't make this a really joint. This is the Danelebatard show with a stugats.”

You mentioned you're hoping that they can keep their coach. I mean, we'll probably learn something today or tomorrow about Hubert Davis and UNC. I think they're going to get rid of him. You're not worried that Jay Lucas. He's been a head coach not just in Miami in a power force. Well, no, but I mean, he's been a head coach one year in his life like UNC can't hire that.

Bloodline coach at UNC bloodlines. What son of John Lucas man. He's got he's been coaching his in his buddies when a coach is whole life. They're going to see all those things. Do you think it stops him at all that he went to Duke and wouldn't want a coach at North Carolina that he was a Duke guy.

“I understand it's a great job. I understand that and one of the reasons by the way, Mike, that I bring up the randomness of some of what happened because the hurricanes had three halves where they shot three as well.”

And then didn't, but Miami went leading at the half was 18 and two and Purdue had only one two games all season when they trailed at the half.

That was the third one all season that they won after they had trailed. But what do you think, I mean, or the camera that seems to indicate that a mean is here.

You think that Jay Lucas would force sake Duke. I mean, that is the job that you would do it for, but it's also the job that would test that allegiance the most because of how much Duke and North Carolina had each other like if you're going to betray Duke. But he's not a Duke alum. No, he was just an assistant. It's loyalty is not to that. And let's just for the sake of argument, let's just assume he wasn't Duke alum. There's only a handful of these jobs that are on that level, right? It's North Carolina. It's Kansas. It's UCLA.

Kentucky. Kentucky got through Duke in there. So yes, absolutely, forgetting about the fact that Miami is a smaller program compared to just regular powerhouse basketball programs. But then when you talk about among the powerhouse basketball programs, this is the elite of the elite of the elite, the blue blood. This is the thing that, you know, money aside, just recruits all name alone.

You could never pass up that job if you're at Miami or any other kind of smaller program like that.

Unless you thought that the Duke job would it could be available, but it doesn't seem that way with the job that John Shire has been going. Jeremy, would you do me the favor of looking up the origins of blue bloods and why royalty is known as blue bloodline because we use that phrase all the time. And I'm not actually sure where it comes from or what it's origin to are when I mention that the hurricanes play really hard and are a tough basketball team Eric Spolstra. Says of his present for game losing streak. We're going through a little bit of pain. It's going to make us better.

Is it like I feel the heater kind of topped out on pain and achieving and when I think of tough and playing hard, this isn't a problem of playing hard. Like this is like how much better is this team actually going to be through anything that he can do or any effort that can be applied. Like when when he says, I generally agree with that statement going through pain will allow certain people willing to embrace it to grow and certain teams to grow. But what's how's this going to make them any better losing on a tip shot there on the day that Kevin Durand passes Michael Jordan on the all-time scoring list.

“It's a classic spoism is really what it is. Doesn't mean it's not true, but it's it's a classic thing that I think it's not true though.”

I'm saying it's not true, like I'm saying in this instance, they've suffered all the suffering that they're going to suffer. You're right because as a result of the current four game losing streak, it's looking pretty likely they're going to finish in the nine ten in the play and which course means the best you could do is finish eighth if you wind up winning in the play and no one's going to say, Hey, remember when we lost all seven of those games, because they're going to all seven of those games and that stretch after the seven game winchering against good teams, it helped us like we're better all for it.

Well, no, you just lost in the play and like your scene's over there, like they're not going to be better for. Well, but one of the stats though that let you know that their effort is sort of maxed out as is their achievement is the quote that he says are defense for the season is top four top five. But against playoff teams, it drops out of the top 15 because they're doing the most they can with the people that they have and this is maxed out and it's going to lose to the better teams on the. Isn't that how all stats work though, you beat up on the bad teams and you.

No, the good teams are good against the good teams too, but I would bet even they are better against the bad teams and just do fine against the good teams. Right, I'd like the heat to do fine against the good teams. They've beat the best team in each conference for what it's worth. Okay, but like like Spau just said there, their defense is completely average 15th when they're playing the good teams. Like yeah, they got some good wins. That's not bad. Like that's that's the point. Like if you say they're elite against the bad ones.

Yes, that's what makes it a lead.

“That every every season long stat is built on the corpses of all the bad teams you beat up, right?”

And so if we were to create the ultimate strength of schedule where the heat only play the best teams all the time and never play the bad teams.

Well, then that's pretty good. I mean, I don't I'll ask this out loud. I don't know the answer to it. The heater playing the spurs tonight's on national TV. So I'll use the spurs and exit as an example.

“Do you think all the spurs numbers are just averaging against the good teams in the league?”

No, but probably significantly better.

There's a reason why the spurs have like the third best right in the league.

I don't think anyone is saying this is one of the best teams in the league. We're just saying that hey, being 15th against all the elite teams. Not bad when that 15th comes in the context of everyone else's rating includes playing bad teams. And so, you know, the idea here is you guys are like, oh, they're going to end up nine ten. They're a game and I have behind five.

I know, but in this stretch here, they have three more games tonight's in Antonio back to back against Cleveland. They're going to lose seven in a row. Minnesota went to Boston yesterday and without Anthony Edwards and they won the I was like, there's no chance. There's no chance. They went on the win that game.

Like, there's no foregone conclusions about two weeks ago, we're making jokes about that. Land of Hawks have been 500 for the last five years. And now they're on like a 12 game winning streak. A week ago, we were talking about the best records post all start break. The heat and the magic were on that list.

But then a foregame losing streak, it changes it, but the stands are so deep. Yeah, we're in the background that he's sitting in ninth in the eastern conference. Like, you're making some great points about the heat. They're ninth. Yep.

They're ninth. The take of like, don't play any of the bad teams. Just play the good teams. Well, that that take didn't make any sense. The things that are plaguing this franchise at present are something that's

standing and gunned the always used to point out and people would ignore.

He's like, why do we ignore the upcoming schedule? Why with these winning streaks do we ignore who they've played during the winning

“streak when they're beating Brooklyn twice in the wizards?”

And now they, this, this last one, I'm, I'm trying to think, okay? You go to Houston and you lose on a tip in buzzer beater. You are a team that has blown 33 double digit leads since last season. More than any other team in the sport and yet that one felt worse to me than anything that I could remember outside of that Utah loss at home this season.

Because when you lose at the buzzer and you're reeling and you've got tough games coming up, I'm trying to think this season regular season. Give me one than hurt the way that one did where you're playing on team. You know is good you're trying to get right. You're trying to get better in the middle of a losing streak.

And you, you, you make the stop against the guy who's now fifth passing Michael Jordan on the all-time scoring list, but a tip in beater. But also, you got to leave out the, the worst part of it is the possession right before it was a miracle. They heat up no timeouts and they stole the in-bounce pass and scored with five seconds up to take the lead.

That shit never happens.

And then you get the final play where he has ban incredible defense on Durant.

And he still get the tip at the moment. In his 30 20 game. That shit never happens. They stole the in-bounce. Give me one that felt worse than that one this season for your Jeremy.

Give me one as someone who cares and wants to be right about because Mike's Mike's saying a lot with that smirk. There's a lot being said with that smirk back there on. Mike's saying absolutely quiet. I know, but that, but that's, that smirk speaks volumes there. Your silence is, you're, you're enjoying that silence in a way you normally don't enjoy silence.

That's right. They missed a three that could have won a game in Boston on a Friday night where they lost by two and they had mucked things up with Boston.

“But this, this one's more deflating because now you just see where the standings are, right?”

Like, if you get that win, you want to get to Houston. You snap the losing streak. Even if you lose tonight, it's not five in a row. It's okay, a loss against the spurs. You could feel differently.

And that one game may make the difference and you could see it play out that way. When, really, the games that make the difference are the losses against the jazz or the kings earlier in the year. Those are the ones that hurt. Yeah.

By losing at the buzzer to the rockets, it sucks. But it's like, hey, it was a coin flip. Losing to, uh, was it the magic a few nights ago? That, like, all right, close enough game. Losing to the lake is even, even though that wasn't a coin flip game.

But it, you were there. You were competitive up until the end. It's, we lost to the jazz when they were actively trying to lose. Right. That's the one that keeps following up at night.

Dan, I had the dumbest experience watching this heat rockets game. So Saturday night, I'm watching Villanova in Nebraska instead of watching the heat game.

That Vanderbilt in the brass game was as good a college basketball game I have ever seen.

“That game put the cassette in to record it.”

What'd you do there?

That game was incredible.

So I'm recording the heat game and I'm really tired after the college basketball. So like, I'm just going to watch the heat in the morning. All right. Not knowing who won, of course. Why would I want it spoiled for me, right?

I wake up in the morning. I don't know what happened in the heat game. You all know at this point that he lost the buzzer. I wake up in the morning. I put on the heat game.

I put the cassette in the VCR. I press the play button. And I'm watching the heat game. Okay. And it gets down to the end.

The heat, make that steel. They scored. I'm excited. I jumped off the couch. I called to my son Jordan.

Come down. Come check this out. And he comes in. He comes in the room and I show him the replay. Hit the rewind button.

And I show him the replay of the heat score.

I go, look. They saw the bounce pass. And he goes to set the end together. No, no, no. The games can end right now.

Five seconds left. The rockets have the ball. And then the rocket score.

“And he just laughs and walks out the room.”

Don't live a tard. Because it mad anywhere. We could do it in Buffalo or Baltimore. Eva. He said you could do it.

Anyway. Oh, whoa. Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.

That's crazy. You can do it anyway. That's crazy. Murder. Murder.

Tell them. Stugots. I had no idea. I mean, I had that in his locker. That might be his bed.

That's crazy. I'm not kidding. That's crazy, killer. It's too America's dead. You don't get it.

This is the 11th show with this. With their stugots. I just realized at the end of the story. You've taped games without the knowledge of what happened in the game. You taped games and get the knowledge and then watch it?

Yes. No. I like the the the the results of secondary. I want to see what happened. No.

I want to see what happened and watch it with the same suspense that I would. The previous night, which makes the experience even dumber. Because I was spent my whole morning leading up to the heat losing at the buzzer. Yeah. Void the news and avoid everyone.

Yeah. Oh, for everyone in my house. Oh, I got people coming in now. You son of your son, maybe say dad. I was a crazy game last night.

They know. They know not to say anything. I thought it was a social media. No. I stayed away from it.

I thought it was going to tell you how they lost anyway. And then before it actually happened and that crush is you.

“That's what I thought was going to happen.”

Why would I record a game? No, what happens and then watch it. Especially if my team lost at the buzzer to find out how I got there. No. I mean, I'm assuming watches games the way a scout would watch some games.

Like if a meme's taping something and rewatching it, I'm assuming that that's the way he's doing. And especially if he insists on being armed with the result before he starts. I watch heat and panther games hours later all the time.

Never knowing the results.

Like living living in a bubble where you have your immune from reality. Yeah. I told you Hank is area does that in order to exercise. He avoids all social media for often days trying to make sure that a next game. He can watch it two days later without knowing.

I mean, that's just a big much. I mean, days later. Yeah. As you watch it, Nick's wizard some last night like next week. Like, come on, guys.

I have a couple of questions though for you. I mean, before I update our tournament real quick. You mentioned that Celtics lost Jeremy. Two of those. Again, I'm going to say it again.

They heat have blown since last season 33 double digit leads. It's more than any team in the sport. Two of them are against the Celtics who can erase leads quickly because of how they make and take threes. Twenty two point lead against the Celtics.

Nineteen point lead against the Celtics. What do you make of that? I mean, like, what is that? Is there something telling about that? Well, I mean, you could argue.

You got to be good enough to get those double digit leads. That's a good point. You were a bad team. You wouldn't be good enough to be up double digits in order to blow the double digit lead. Now, I mean, look, this is the part where Mike being smuggled.

I'm like, I don't, I don't get what your point is. They should have a better roster. No shit. We all know they should have a better roster. But again, my point has been consistent against Mike for the last couple of years.

You act like it's a choice. No, no. This is good enough. Well, most of the time, it's not. It's you're trying to actively improve your roster with other

trade partners who are not willing to go along with what you want to do. No, I'm not saying ever that they they chose this. So one thing that they are making an active decision against is, you know, packing it totally and we got no shot. Let's tank.

That's not what this organization does. I have to, as a heat fan, I have to understand that. No, they're, they're not that good because they failed in the pursuits of upgrade in the roster. Yeah.

And feel like his smuggness is at Jeremy because Jeremy thinks they're good enough. I'm not smugged. The, the season's playing out the way that we all thought it would. Well, most of us thought it would after the trade deadline where they kind of

I don't know. Maybe we can get excited depending on the matchup in the first round. But I mean, five games ago, Jeremy was demanding an apology. And well, that was also because BAM scored 83 points. No, but like I, but I also knew the schedule.

Like that's a real tough schedule against teams that are better than them. And that's played out and now they have Wemby. I'm not going to demand an apology. This doesn't make me happy. You know, we'll go into the office using try to upgrade and play for the things that

this franchise typically plays for. What do you do a mean with the fact that Norman Powell is now coming off the bench. He's got a totally redundant skill set and stats as Tyler hero. And he's saying, look, I'm a starter in this league. I'll do what they want me to do.

But in terms of making them better, he's not making them better. If all you're doing is the redundancy of hero will get the numbers. Or Powell will get the numbers and they're going to be similar numbers. Yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, that's a tough part when you have redundancy. It's like, is it the role or is it the person?

And the reality is suppose always been a tinker.

He's not a guy who's married to this is the lineup, and that's it. So this is part for the course that he's guys moving in out of the lineup. It's part for the course, but that's an all star that's on your bench. Sure, I mean, but it's not on your bench.

“He's just not starting, which is where like these are the semantics of a basketball, right?”

Very rarely the starting ever have anything to do with them more than just the honor that I got to hear my name called. Everyone's the one you get there players that I remember we had this with Grant Hill when I was in Phoenix. Grant Hill is second season with us. We're going to bring them up the bench and let Matt Barnes start. And what Grant Hill discovered is like, I'm 100 years old.

I warm up before a game and then you tell me to sit on the bench. I lock up. And so now when I get back in the game, like my body's completely cold, and I couldn't do it. I had nothing to do with the ego of it is just that he physically could not go through the process of warming up, cooling down, and then go out there and be effective.

But for the most part, what Norman Powell is talking about is the pride of being a man. I'm going to start in this league. How can I come up the bench?

And the reality is, hey, man, we're trying to make things work.

We're trying to figure out something that works here. And other than hurting your feelings, like Jeremy said, you're playing big minutes. It's not like you're playing 22 minutes a night. You're closing a lot of the times. So what are we talking about?

Just you didn't hear your name called. But moving forward like into next year because Norman Powell is obviously going to be a free agent. You can't pay Tyler here and whatever Norman Powell is going to cost moving forward. Even if you're good. Even if you're the same guy.

Even if you could. Even if like, no, no, we have to. I mean, I don't know. I mean, you could. You don't want to. Well, yeah, it just, it doesn't make sense. Right. That's right.

So you can either do one or two things. You can either engage Norman Powell in the sign and trade deal and see what happens out there. Or you say, Tyler hero under contract with a, now a very decent looking number. When he signed everyone lost their mind, now it's like, oh, this is actually a really good deal. You go out there and you see what you can get for him.

Absolutely. That's, that's a prudent thing to do. But it's, it's kind of foolish to see here and say, well, I'm going with this guy or that guy. You got to see what the options are. Actually, the thing that they should have done. Like, they should have had the foresight and it would have been a ball's move.

“But they should have had the foresight to say, you know what?”

We could sell really high on Norman Powell at this trade deadline. Like, that's if they, like, they would have been a ball's move. But that's really what they should have done. It's a ball's move, but you know what? And they're doing it sends a message that like, we are not all in on competing this year.

And so and like, my, that goes by to what Mike said. This organizationally did the careers. We don't tank. We don't, we don't circle the wagons. We continue to fight and no matter wherever it lands, we take our chances, as long as we've got to shot in the postseason. People felt the same way about Andrew Wiggins at the deadline, right?

Which was, you have a guy with a player option at 30 million going in the next year.

And he, well, he has a play for the last four games. He's been their second best player this season. He's had a career year. And it's been really, really good. And without him over these games, you've, you've missed him as a wing defender and another offensive threat. Also, blue blood. It stems from Spanish nobility.

So for the folks who did not have to go out and work their skin was lighter. And you could see their blue veins in turn, blue blood. I, that's interesting. I have a question for Dan Jeremy and Zad. In that order, collectively, you can answer it. Like, again, I don't want to be a tanking franchise.

I don't.

“I think that there is a difference in one isolated year to know that, all right, we don't have it this year.”

Let's kind of pack it in, reassess. You can couch up by saying, let's develop some guys. I don't think that's tanking. If they looked at this year, said, we're not really going anywhere that we want to go. Let's try to build up some assets.

I think that's a midseason evaluation that you make. And for the better of your franchise, you try to develop these other pieces. I don't think that makes you a tanking franchise. I really don't. I don't think that's counter culture.

I just look at the success that they've had with the guys that they've drafted where they've drafted them.

Every draft is like, oh, you can get this guy here.

You can get this guy here.

“If you're drafting it 11/12 because you decided to tank after the deadline.”

I don't know the difference that that's making for the heat in particular. From, say, drafting 15th, you know, that's where they've acquired all of these guys who have over-achieved or are really talented young players. Colorware is very, very talented. Casper Shaka Jonas has looked really good for a 19 year old point guard. So I don't know the difference between those two things.

And personally, whether it's from, you know, someone who covers a team, but really even just from the fan perspective. Like, I'd rather watch the rest of the season knowing my team can win on any given night. That gave him a chance to censor Tina. Doesn't matter what the fans want. The person who runs your franchise is 82 years old and over his dead body.

Like, he's not, he's not going to tank. Like, he's not going to spend this portion of his life trying to build something for five years from now.

Like, he wants to see if they could do what they did against Jonas in the first round again.

And, and he's going to be wrong.

“But this, this, you got to blow out Pat Riley if you want to lose on purpose.”

Or if you're not going to try. Right, but I guess the disconnect for me is I'm not suggesting something that's in a front to your franchise's DNA. I'm just rather than do this for three years. I'm saying, let's do this for a couple of months and put yourself in position. Where you can be more aggressive this off season and take into consideration the fact that you are 82.

You're on a treadmill right now. Let's hop off. I think that's a quicker way to get to where everybody wants to go. I do wonder how much did the experience they have tanked before. Okay, they did in 2008. And I wonder how much the experience of it that resulted in Michael Beesley,

which flat out did not work.

Like, I wonder how much that changed their MO that they're never going to do.

I'd say it's something else. I would say that greatness usually doesn't have very much self-awareness about decline. Greatness is overcome so many odds that it always thinks that it can overcome the next ones. Like, I don't generally think that there's a lot of self-awareness where Pat Riley is saying, No, I can't do this.

I don't have a chance because he's always had a chance. And when he was a player, and when he was in college, when every role he's ever had, he's thought he's had a chance.

“Why would he be someone who would have self-awareness about my team?”

Isn't a team that couldn't win when they won as an ATC against a one when it was Jonas? Isn't blue bloods the show that's Dan Van Gandhi watches like every Tuesday night as well? That's the CSI's and the... I'm with him, he's definitely a fan of that. Donnie Walberg.

Tom Sellik. I think that's all JB on it. J.L. and Brad was on an episode. Yeah, I think so. By the way, I think we need to give Stan Van Gandhi a shout out here,

because we all rolled our eyes last week when he told us the best shooter in the league is Luke anard and Luke anard drilled that three of the buzzer against the magic on Saturday night. I said, Tony a video of Luke anard hitting the side of the backboard earlier in that game with a shot for the corner. He also said the Bamada Bio was like the 13th best center in the game. He did not say that.

It was attributed to him by somebody here who betrayed you. You. Him? No, I didn't do that. It was somebody...

Do it. Sure. I said, you said that because you guys lied to scallobrini and said that, Stan had said that.