The Big Suey: The Eric Gregg Game

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- Draft Kings! - The crown is yours. - Nice. - The world baseball classic last night ended in controversy.

The United States advances.

They beat a Dominican Republic team that hadn't trailed in the tournament was clubbing everybody and is one of the best lineups ever assembled. The last pitch was not a strike.

If they were still using replay, they would have overturned that as a strike. And after the game, Soto's just saying,

“"Well, everyone knows where the better team,”

after they hit lost." And there were a few things from that game that I wanna cover with you guys. First of all, I was listening on the right home

from our Oscar and selection Sunday watch party on the radio. And it was the television broadcast on the radio. And I hear Aaron Judge hit a ball, making the sound that Aaron Judge's bad is made.

I hear, I'm not watching. I hear the crowd make the noise that suggests to me that everyone thinks it's a home run. And the announcer does this, which was perfect. He says,

"Did he get enough of it? He did not." Because the ball is robbed at the fence by J. Rod and then he recovers so well by saying, "And Spider-Man, Rob Superman." But he was stuck in the air right before that.

And Aaron Judge, whenever he hits a ball, I always think, anytime the ball is in the air off that guy's bad, even if it's an infield pop-up that it's going out of the stadium

because he's got these superhuman dimensions that would make him one of the best baseball players ever if Shoha Yotani did not exist to make his time now pale compared to Shoha's. But the game ends in controversy.

Samson, what did you cover on nothing personal as it related to the specifics of? That last pitch was simply not a strike. - I was trying to explain to people like Tony, who is sulking, obviously,

that that's not why the DR loss.

“You have to understand that when you're playing the USA”

in the semi-finals, you best be swinging. You cannot be caught looking because MLB would like the USA to advance.

- It is why they lost at a runner on third.

They would have had a runner on first and third. It would have been a walk. It should have been a walk. It was not a strike. It was a ball to end the game.

- You have to be swinging. You cannot let the umpires decide the game. When Austin Wells has stopped at third base, you've got to have pinch run for him with onel crews and then he scores on that and it's outrageous.

It was mismanaged, hey Albert's new, Albert's new. I'll give him that. But that, the DR loss because of managing not because of an ABS call. - So I didn't see the very end of the game.

I'm old and I'm tired. And I woke up in the morning and like I saw the controversy I heard the conflict, okay, this pitch must have been like not a close. And then I saw the video and I actually

probably got honest with you. It's kind of a close to as a grievous as I thought based on the conversation that I saw online about it, not being a strike. And on top of it, it's two out two strikes,

bottom of the ninth, one run game. You better be swinging at that pitch. - Guys, it wasn't a strike. Like you guys can keep doing this. - That's not how baseball is played.

- I understand. - But you think close to him. - But no, no, not with insta replay anymore. You guys didn't use a 100, no ABS. But you guys didn't use 100 year old rules.

These guys play usually under. I know the strike zone and I can get it right and they will fix it with insta replay. It simply was not a strike. And you guys are real casual about making it this absolute

David, this isn't the reason to loss. This is the reason for the loss. And no, the game would have continued if that was called correctly. It was not called correctly.

- But the hit is instinct on two strikes, protect a plea. - Guys, this is the hardest drawer in the history of throwing baseballs, okay? - This isn't that more of an argument.

- But like I better just swing it close. - It's easy for you guys to sit here and say how easy it is to swing at that pitch if it's close. - It's easy. - This man throws very hard and he throws breaking ball three, two.

It's 105, he throws a breaking ball.

It's out of the strikes zone.

“He shows the plate discipline of not swinging at it”

and you punish him for it by all of you saying you've got a swing in that spot as if he's Carlos Beltran at the end of the met series before instant replay. - If this was reversed and it was the other way around.

- Oh. - The isolationist-- - Pittsburgh. - America first, Samson and Zazlo, would be freaking the f*** out right now.

- He's so right on this and I like the idea of literal pitchforks. It all works about that pitch, just not a pitchfork, but just tiny little sporks that you just come out on the field with and start stabbing the empire because it was a terrible call.

- I don't want to be associated with like that 'cause that's not at all. I'm extraordinarily fair in my anger and frustration as it relates to Amps and calls and dealing with it. - The guy who doesn't know that you're up in soccer

exists and that there's a different way of keeping the door elsewhere. - Did it deliver elsewhere? Have you been to Annefield? - You didn't just do that to me.

- Have you? - Have you been to Annefield? - He just gave me his resume.

- Oh, I've never meant he's a dick.

- It's being delivered six weeks. - It's what it is that he just did to make. - Cavan Club? - I'm not, I'm not just to find my sports cred by telling you.

- It's not that you see his people. - It's so right about what she's saying. America would be making the opposite argument of this. If this had happened to the Americans. - That's right, of course.

- Of course. - Honestly, I really, no, I really think though,

“if I saw, if it's close, if it's close, you have to swing.”

- There's no replay in this tournament. - You meet with your players before a game to talk to them about the circumstances of the game. The DR players knew that when you're up against the league wanting USA to advance,

you've got to change your approach. - Where was that empire from? - Do you hear what he said? You meet with your players before the game to talk about the circumstances of the game.

The Americans were dealing with a manager who didn't know what the stakes were earlier in this series. - That's true, Dana. - Like, you meet with your players and you tell him, "Hey, look, just in case,

"the guy who throws 105, if he goes three to breaking ball on you, "you've got to swing at the end of the game "even if it's out of the strike zone." - You're so wrong, the players for US knew that they had to beat Mexico to advance.

They knew about the game three and game four. So stop with that. Mark D'Rosa, and I'm not gonna defend Mark D'Rosa at all. - Sounds like you're starting to know. - What he did is a fireable offense

by meeting with the media the way he did and being so wrong about what he did

“that in a regular season, I think about canonum.”

But the players, they know exactly what's going on in a particular game. They just do, so. - I just, I can't let a couple of inches determine whether or not I'm gonna swing in that spot

in such a huge moment with two strikes in the game on the line. I'm telling you, I thought I was gonna wake up and I was gonna watch the replay. I thought I was gonna see Eric Greg back behind the home play.

I really did.

- And it was not that amazing.

- We'll get to that in a second. I want to teach the kids about Eric Greg and the Levant Hernandez Greg Maddick's game. But here is Marrow or friend, the kid Marrow. He is doing a live stream watching the game with his friend.

This is the reason that people do these live streams so that you can have the frustration at the end of the game. Here is a last pitch that is clearly not a strike. Let's see how the kid Marrow and his friends reacted. (upbeat music)

(crowd cheering) - One, two, three. - No! - That's a fucking cool call. That is a fucking terrible goddamn call.

You cannot call that. - You cannot call that. (crowd laughing) - Oh God. - The said flag up.

The said straight back. - Can you not make that call? - No. - And uh. That's a great take.

(crowd cheering) - I thought he was complimenting his take that you can't make that call. But he meant the not swinging was a great take. - How funny is that guy in the back row saying

it's a great take? He's cheering for the US. He was excited and then, and because he and the other guy back there were weren't PR hats.

He was cheering for the US. He was excited about the end. And then to make sure you get in the guys good graces who are cheering for D.R. in front. You gotta let everybody know that's a terrible call.

I saw you. I saw you playing both sides. - I noticed that same thing, Zaz. - What a funny. - I was like, is he cheering?

- Yeah. - Yep. - He's lamenting on audio and cheering in his hands. - I'm glad with the result. But now let me make my friends know

that I'm really on their side. - I want to see the whole thing again. And I want you guys to hear the incredibly sad. It's the saddest I've ever heard of Bongo B. It's just one stray Bongo sound

in the middle of them and their despondents. (upbeat music) - Oh no!

- No! - No! - What? - No! - No!

- Stop! - Stop! - No! - Oh, that is a f***ing terrible goddamn call. You cannot call that.

- You cannot call that. - I cannot make that call. - Yeah! - Can I? - That's a great take.

- I hope the kid watched that back and realized this was actually, I'm fond of that guy afterwards. That's a baseball fan there. - He knew he had his rooting interest. - Guys, a dude found a way to make a Bongo sound sad.

That is impressive.

- I forgive me because I'm gonna play this eight-third time.

The reason I'm gonna do this at third time, though, is I want you to see and see if you can freeze it

“on the secret hand shake between the two guys in the back”

because it wasn't just that he was happy about it. It's the two of them were happy about it and they gave a secret in the middle of all of their friends misery. - Yup.

- They tried to hide a secret hand shake because they were happy. - Oh no! (screaming) - No!

- There was, you saw it. - Yup. - You saw it. - Hide it behind that guy. Carl Anthony Towns is also Dominican.

He is famously Dominican. They love him in Washington Heights as a next player and he also had a reaction while he is festooned in the Dominican colors and he's not happy about the call either. - The ball?

- The ball? - The ball, that's what we watch now. - Hell, yeah, it was a ball, man. - Some bulls. (laughing) - The R should hide it.

- Yeah, man, no tattoos. Junior coming up, bro. Come on, man. - That was a ball, I don't know. - That was a strike.

- No, hey, I was born. - You say that, it's an American. (laughing) - That's a ball, it's hell.

“- So that's what it comes down to though”

that the umptus from Denver. - I did just look it up, unfortunately. - Unfortunately, some Denver. - Yeah. - So that means that by definition, a US empire

is going to purposely call a ball, a ball, a ball. - If I'm hitting in that situation, that's more of the argument for you. You gotta swing anything close there. We got Denver, Colorado, behind the plate.

- You know the umpires, you know the situation.

You don't stop well as a third.

First of all, you pinch run for 'em. - Also, they made a third out at third. - Tettis. - There were some base running misapps. - It takes a great throw.

I love making them make a play. - But what would you say? - Which one makes that play? - Pinching in defense wins. And the US bullpen, shut 'em down for five plus innings.

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and I pull out the miller light. - Miller light made that casual hang. - A memorable, good miller time with my good friend Mocha. - Because Miller light brought us together.

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Punch away this segment with what is your strike three calls.

Strike one would be strike! And then you stand up and you give a good point to the right. Stugots! That's same for strike two. But strike three, you get down low.

You got your hands behind the catcher. All right. The right arm goes up into the air. Yeah! And then you finish it with the punch.

Yeah. The right arm flings way up into the air. Yeah! Yeah! And you finish it.

I wish I could see that. It's there. You already know the ground. This is the Dane Lebatard Show with his Stugots.

Can I just stop you guys for a second though on what I'm about to say because I feel like

from our couches behind the microphones we underestimate a handful of things. There is a picture throwing a ball. Fastballs harder than anyone has ever thrown a baseball. Up until the last I'm going to say eight years maybe nine that picture on a three-two count. There is no circumstance under which he's throwing a breaking ball.

I'm going to say that's something that's happened maybe the last seven years. Somebody who throws 104 miles an hour with the T-s on deck does not throw a breaking ball on a three-two pitch. You guys sitting here saying you've got to swing the bat.

“When a human being is throwing a baseball harder than anyone ever does and you have to sit”

fastball on that picture. If you do not you're going to watch what you're going to have happen is he's going to throw it right down. If you're sitting breaking ball there saying you just got to swing it everything. He's going to swing a month late if he's sitting on breaking ball because you can't expect to break him ball there.

Do you guys realize how much easier it is to be the critic in this spot to be the guy who actually swings the bat at a pitch that wasn't close? He said afterward I knew it was a ball. It is a ball. It's a ball forever. It's a ball. I know it's a ball. That wasn't a strike. I just think you're almost making our point. Like the better the picture, the better stuff

from a picture, the more I'm just protecting the plate. This guy's so unheadable. That's how it is. Anything close I got to swing. Yep. So it's just like to be able to be like oh that was an inch low.

That's a tough spot to take there and you don't get to say good eye. And hundreds of years that we've been playing baseball you know that's a fastball in that situation. He knew that was going to be a fastball in that situation. And so I go off the plate. It wasn't a fastball. It was a curved ball.

He was sitting for like if he said you've got to sit fastball there the guy throws 105 miles an hour. Right.

“You'll have to sit fastball. What do you mean right?”

Right. We knew it was going to be a fastball. He just sat on the curve. Minor penalty two minutes. Don't disturb juice take. Wow. I want to show all of you for those of you who have not seen it. I want to relive the Levant Hernandez Greg Matt.

Oh, my God. The late Eric Greg early in this game, Eric Greg was calling strikes that were in the opposite batters box. Levant Hernandez struck out 15 batters in this game. At least in part because the strike zone was the most ridiculous thing that there has ever been so beautiful in the history of playoff baseball.

So we're going to just show you all 15 strike out here. Oh, it's the other batters box. Well, they all are except for a couple. There's a couple, but I love the last one. The last one we're at Fred McGriff.

It's a backdoor curve ball. The ball is two feet outside. Never even close. Oh, Fred McGriff just look here it is. Oh my God.

It's incredible. I'm telling you, if you are there, you're a Miami fan, you're a Miami sportsman, whatever. And you're like, oh, of course, I remember Levant Hernandez. I remember the Eric Greg game. If you have not watched it recently, it's even worse than you remember it being.

The calls are so egregious. That's right that I was waking up to this morning.

“Well, this is the only baseball game I have ever seen, right?”

Never because players are fairly consistent when they say, I don't mind an

umpire who is calling a very lenient strike zone. I just want to know that he's going to consistently do that over the course of a game. Eric Greg gave the same strike zone to Levant Hernandez that he did to Greg Maddox. But resourceful Levant Hernandez who came from Cuba realized in the first inning. Wait a minute, he's going to give me a strike in the opposite batters box every time.

And he just started throwing all of his pitches in the opposite batters box and Eric Greg, you would say this is the worst umpired game that you've ever seen. Correct David? Like that there's never, there's never been worse series. No, it wasn't the world series.

It was against the Atlanta Braves. But it was in the playoffs to get to the world series. I mean, I've watched CB Bockinger and Angel Hernandez and we've seen some bad ones.

if it's consistent. But now with ABS, there's going to be, there literally will be a consistent strike zone. But Eric Greg is not thought of as a terrible umpired the way CB is. Just had bad day was. It was just, it was, yeah. No, but Eric Greg is forever associated with that poorly umpired game. Not with it. I'm saying not with the baseball. That's all.

Okay, Angel Hernandez was worse as an umpired career, lifetime body of work, Angel Hernandez could graduate well, it does matter and that Angel Hernandez is forever

known as a bad umpired. But I've never seen a worse umpired than the one in this game.

A worse moment. The, the, the, the moment it was, it was a moment. It was, it was a moment. It was nine in and it was nine in and it was nine in and it was nine in and it was a moment. It was 15 strikeouts. Those are 15 moments at the very least. To your point though, from last night's game, that a erud set after the game, that that is that guy's hot zone and that umpired. He calls that down pitch a lot. So that is the information that they

would have. That's more for the argument of you got to swing. By the way, he did it all again. Yeah, I wonder other other moments in the game were called that a strike? Yes. Yes. But Dan, that, that doesn't go for Dan, because that doesn't help me. Oh no, it's about Mason Miller throwing a hundred and eight. I mean, what you just, you guys, you guys just do this thing, though, where you make it sound very easy to do the thing that you're saying is if you don't understand what you're

watching. Like, it's, it's a, it's a hard thing to be in that situation against that pitcher who was struck out, 19 of the last 20 guys he's faced. It ain't hard. All of whom were swinging hard on the last pitch trying to protect the strike zone. I don't David and Zazzac, like they could just do it, right? Like they. No. No, that's not true. We're just saying swing. That's not true.

“I just, I think it's really close. You have less than a split second to decide how close it is if”

it's a ball or strike. And in that spot, two out, two strike, bottom nine, one run game in that split

second. I got to swing if it's close. And he chose not to. And he got burned. I mean, the

Empire was wrong, but he got burned. I don't want to get burned. Swain either. What other takes David, did you have regarding the World Baseball Classic as the United States ends up advancing and beating the team that has looked the best in this tournament, but the United States was favored last night at least in part because schemes was starting for them. Scenes gave, as we talked about, he did seven, do you notice? Zazz, 71 pitches and done.

You're allowed to go 90, but the Pirates said no, thank you. So it's only the, it's only the U.S. team that has those types of, no, every starter that has a majorly contract, the majorly team dictates to the World Baseball Classic team, the amount of pitches. Can you walk me through some of this though, because if I were a majorly team, the United States didn't use to have these kinds of stars playing in this game, and I don't know that I'd want my stars playing in this

game, even if it's good for the sport, because I wouldn't want anybody getting hurt. Anybody as valuable as schemes who is almost single-handedly responsible for the Pirates improved playoff chances, I would not want that person getting hurt off of my employment watch. Yeah, there was a nice agreement with Bill Nudden. Bob Nudden, excuse me, you know he gets a lot of real name, Bob Nudden. Bob Nudden is good for him. I don't know why I said Bill, but it's Bob.

Well, but that's not the part of the name I was noticed.

The Nudden part. Never heard the word Nudden.

Yes, right, so yes, so that they don't want their players out question.

“But when you have revenue sharing, we've done these notifications, that's why I can talk about it.”

Where you say to you, hey, we want Stanton or we want Yallets, or we want whatever, you know, the answer is well, well, if you don't give them, let's talk about your revenue sharing. Let's talk about some grievances that are against you. Let's talk about other points of pressure that can be applied to teams like the Pirates. And then you see schemes on the team. That's number one.

And then you can hide it with the Air Force stuff and hide it with I love America stuff. But the negotiation was with Nudden. They milk the whole lot out of schemes. Three of his uncles were in the armed services. They made him a six six fighter pilot. I expected him to take the mound just to land on the mound in a military chopper and a black hawk.

You're making me, I don't want to be not patriotic but give me a break, which you, you know, we're playing harder because of my relationship with the Air Force. No. But the pitch count consideration, that's pre-negotiating.

“Is it exactly what he would have pitched in spring training anyway?”

He actually would be more because you're about 10 days away from his first start, which will be March 26th. And so he pitched on March 15th. So he's got one more start and then he starts opening days. So this was his data pitch, which is why it was pre-determined that he'd pitched the semi-finals. All of it was pre-done, including the number of pitches.

The negotiation is can we let him go 80? Can we let him go 90? And the pirates say no, no, 70. They pulled them at 71. So one extra pitch.

Your thoughts on Juan Soto saying after the game, yeah,

everyone knows where the better team who cares, silly. And this is why we play. I don't want to sound like a broke, you know, like a dope is what we play to games. You know, but it's literally why they play. Sometimes the team that's not better wins. Yeah, but he's saying that that was decided by the Empire at the end on a call that wasn't correct. And so the game shouldn't have ended on.

But then he's assuming that if it was called correctly, we're still going to win the game because they're the better team and that's just wrong. If you're not wrong, it's unknown. Yes. No, it is wrong. There's actually no way to say,

we judge it on rings. We judge it on gold medals. When it doesn't matter who's heard,

didn't the heat went a title. And there was somebody who didn't play. I'm totally blank. And I know the next loss to title when you didn't play. It has calves. One, or no, warriors won because Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love were both out. Okay. And the warriors are, that's part of their dynasty. No one talks. It doesn't much matter.

I don't really care when people are injured and you win because of that. The Raptors won because of Durant and Clay Thompson were hurt, but I still don't know what you were doing with the heat. Maybe you're thinking about 97 with the Brawl and Ewing and Oakley and Start. We're all there for them. Because that next team was better. And guess what? The heat won.

They came back 3-1. And guess what? We lost. Yeah. So that's it. Right. Final penalty. Two minutes to lay a show. And one of the things that you were doing, and then we just got stuck in the quicksand because you offered nothing. In fact, minor penalty. Two minutes for adding nothing. A double minute? Yeah, double minute for minutes for Samson. So he can walk out of here with his

flip flops and his cargo shorts and his ridiculous long sleep shirt. And then he can say,

“to Trista, that she looks like she's dressed and appropriately. You should be ashamed of yourself.”

I tried to clean it up and it, it got worse, honestly. I know you tried to help him and it just we kept sinking deeper and deeper. What game in the last 30 years are you thinking of when a important player was out? And then we just started guessing. Is deingarten start club for the infreeling? A action game, quality and declines the price hand in hand.

To buy a game for mini-cettin'-segan, only 24, 18 or 18 games only have one, 22 and 80. In the case, all games are produced in our infreeling and in the action app, action, little price, big joy. Let's get to the top five games to watch in this tournament from Trista because we have not talked enough about the actual tournament that begins really on Thursday. I know we've got

playing games before that because you've got to get your gambling and but on Thursday, we really don't need this many teams. There are not enough good teams to be in this tournament. And this tournament's top heavy. Like maybe we'll get some upsets, but it seems to me like the one seeds are a good deal better than everyone else. Even though Michigan lost to Purdue, even though Florida lost a Vanderbilt, what I've watched from Arizona and Michigan and Florida

and specifically Duke all season suggests to me that they're a good deal better than everyone else even if you like your Iowa states and your Texas techs. But this tournament is fun because

“there's a lot of randomness. Do you have any OLI here, Trista? Do you just have a top five?”

I just learned what OLI is. So no, no, OLI for me. This is just in the first round. So not in

the full tournament. First, first game to watch in the first round of the tournament, Yukon versus Furman. This is just a very spicy matchup. Dan Hurley feels like this is not a championship quality team this year. I don't know if that's mine games or whether they're going to get exploited by Furman, listen like. Oh, yeah, like that drop. I mean, this is a Furman team that was injured all year now. They're finally healthy. They're monsters. They have

two six eleven players to watch. I think they could bully Yukon. This is upset. I'll work for me. Whoa, she's putting the town on it. Number four. Number four Wisconsin versus high point. I really like high point. They're 30 and four. Nobody knows who they are. They force turnovers better than anyone in the country right now or almost Wisconsin's biggest defensive weakness

“is defending the exact style that high point plays. I think that this is not just a mid-major”

team hoping for a miracle. I think Wisconsin's very trendy. Maybe even more trendy than high point.

give people the update on this. It's the West region. It's the Thursday game. It's 150 pm. Number five Wisconsin is represented by Jonathan Zaslow looks like you're big toe after hitting the corner

“of the bed. That's so good. We don't want to lose that. That's why it's seated so high. But high”

point makes a lot of threes. They've got a fun offense. Number 12 high point is represented by Scott Van Pelt looks like Adam Silver on steroids. Nine on of its steroids, but it's like a human growth hormone, a healing cream of some sort, not for muscles for illness. Cryogenic chamber. Just cortisol. Or hydro cortisol. Number three. Number three. TCU versus Ohio State.

Man, you got to watch this one. I think this is one of the more spicy matchups in the first round.

I think TCU has some of the best wins so far this year. And I think that they beat Ohio's Iowa State. They beat Texas tech down the stretch. Defenses top 25 in the country. If they get past Ohio State, they then draw an injured duke team that's missing two important players. This game itself is a coin flip. The reason that you watch is because of the chaos it sets up of TCU wins. This is the East region and our looks like tournament. This is the 12 15 p.m. Thursday game.

The 8 cd Ohio State is represented by. Mina Times looks like the therapist who starts to listen to your story gets caught up in a daydream. Then simply says, and how does that make you feel while having no idea what you actually said? This one's really good, though. I want TCU to go deep and that I love this one, because I want I thought this should have been seated higher.

Dreyman Green looks like he has to sneeze. Always. Always because he's doing his mouth so

is open, like whether he's on his podcast. Well, that one hit me. I just like, no, he always looks like he's about to sneeze. It's not he's not in a rest to state. He's in a state where moments from now. He's not going to be able to keep that sneeze down. And how about your number one

“game to watch here, Trista? It's number two first. I think we have to get to two first. Oh, I skipped over.”

Yeah, Vanderbilt versus McNeese. Vanderbilt just be Florida by 17 says they may be one of the hottest teams in the country right now. This sets up another matchup between these two teams, Florida. They need to watch out. Do we want to do this? I don't want to use too much of our tournament yet. So let's go. Let's go to the next one here. And then finally number one for the folks in Miami. It is Miami versus Missouri in Missouri. Unfair, unfair game. You can't put that game in Missouri.

You can't punish the higher seed. No, you can't. And I think obviously Miami is the much more talented

team on paper, but they're playing a Missouri's backyard. That always matters in the tournament setting.

Their coach hasn't been in the tournament as I had coached before. Virginia just gave the blueprint to everyone. Make this Miami team. Make threes. And let's see what happens. So I'm really, really excited about this game to watch as well. We've got breaking news here in the NBA. NBA is holding a vote board of governors, March 24th and 25th to explore adding expansion teams in Vegas and Seattle. I assume that's done. Right. So and they say exploring and they say meeting to talk

about I'm assuming and we're assuming teams will be in Las Vegas and Seattle in short order, correct? Because there's more money for the owners in expanding. And so of course they're going to do that even though they've already got 10 teams in the league that are actively trying to lose. That's the prop. That's the first thing that comes to my mind. I mean, the regular season kind of stinks in the NBA. And now we're going to add more teams. It's, I don't know. Yeah, it's obvious that it's going to be

Vegas and Seattle, but it's not very exciting to me. It would probably reshape the way that the conferences are organized. Shams has alluded to the Grizzlies and Timberwolves moving to the eastern conference because you are adding. Well Grizzlies or Timberwolves. Well you are adding two teams on the West Coast in Las Vegas and Seattle. There's going to need to be some reshaping. Hopefully down the line when Europe gets into the equation. They just do away with conferences entirely

“because they're really dumb especially in that sport. Is Europe going to get into the conversation?”

I don't know if these European teams are going to allow that really to happen. I mean, they have had deep conversations with existing clubs over in Europe and a couple of new franchises that pop up there. I think that that's the next piece. It's probably a couple years away, David, but I think five core teams in Europe sounds good with potentially. Hopefully they get the right idea. Do away with conferences. Every team in the league just plays twice.

you call it exploring relocation is that you don't have ownership groups yet. Don't forget there's a fight going on behind the scenes. Who's going to get the Vegas team? It's not a

done deal at all. I know LeBron once. Well, Rich Paul said he and LeBron have never ever talked about

“owning a team. So I'm sure it's never that's what we said. That's what Rich Paul said. It would never”

occur to LeBron at age 40 to think about what's next. That's not how he rolls. So figuring out who's going to own the team because Shaq had an interest as well. Money may weather told me he was getting it. Who did money may weather? That's three different parts. He'd be part of he'd never get approved by himself. I can join one of some sort of you don't think you don't think. You don't think an ownership group would just say, sure, Floyd, come on in just by yourself. We trust that

you gamble away all your money. He's well, it's not Bruno, but I would say that exploring

then ownership group. We haven't seen yet exactly the Seattle plan and I remind cities.

Hear me out, you're paying more to get your team back than you would have to have kept your team from moving to OKC. You made a mistake. Yeah, but times have changed. I mean, it was 20 years ago. A little less than 20. That's not very long at all. My honest part. You're speaking to the city of Seattle as if they're listening right now. They don't know something and they're listening to you right now. You want Seattle to know that they could have kept their team before by just what are

you trying to talk about the future cities where you are being threatened to give money or your team will move. Listen to those threats because your team will move and then you'll be screwed and

trying to get it back. It always costs more to get a new customer than to keep your old customer.

“Well, and that's why I don't know if you guys saw this, but Adam Silver was in Portland just a”

couple of days ago announcing that the city and a bipartisan way has essentially going to be paying for this motor center renovation that keeps Portland having the blazers, which was kind of like a piece of uncertainty up until just a couple of days ago. You were part of nothing personal today. Oh, really? Because I found out you're from Portland, which I didn't know and I discussed that very topic this morning because what Adam Silver was doing was making sure that everyone understood

that there was public money going into the renovation and you're going to feel good about it. He said to the staffers in Portland and the politicians and the people, you're going to get other events, all the things that you've been missing, all the else of Portland will disappear by giving money. And so what made me smile about Adam Silver is he had a schlepte Portland to do this and my guess is Wally's there. What are you doing? You go to Portland. You do a quick little stuff.

Well, I don't know that's something to that. My guess is he did a quick stop and see what you're

“swing by Nike if you're in Portland. Uh, you have to tell me. And Casa Diablo, he gets Nike for free.”

No, I don't. I mean, they're an important lead partner and they're an important epicenter to business in Portland in general. Speaking of business, the WNBA has another extended deadline today. You're the only one that I have heard say very strongly in the sports media that you believe that the WNBA might disappear period, not just for a while, but period. Where are you right now on where those negotiations are? They've been a bunch of deadlines and there was one on March 10th. They blew through it.

Now, it's March 17th, 16th. And they're saying today's the new deadline. Kathy Engelbert, today's the day. So we're going to find out maybe today's the day. But if the women believe they're going to get up to their number of revenue sharing to 30, they're down at 26. Will it be 15 or 18? The relevant part of this is not housing. The relevant part is what will the lead look like going forward? And yes, there was a possibility where the owners would say you guys are way too greedy,

but they came off their initial positions and they'll get a deal done. It can it cannot be 15 or 18. It has to be over in the high in the low 20s at least. And it can't be this net revenue number that the lead keeps saying like you're playing these word games. Revenue is gross by nature. Net revenue changes the entire meaning of the word. UFC is the worst at this and they do 17%. The WNBA players cannot with this kind of leverage take less than UFC labor is taking.

What is their leverage? That they're incredibly popular right now and they don't have to be what the UFC is in terms of paying its employees worse than anybody in sports pays its employees. Then go fight somewhere else. That's what Dana would say and he's not wrong. Go fight somewhere else. And these women go play somewhere else. I say to the baseball players too, this is not about men versus women. If you have, if you can play in career Tokyo and make as much

the margins during every CBA negotiation and we're going to make sure that we hold out long

“enough to get what we want. Spoken like the man. No, but that's just the reality. I don't want to”

be that trust. I don't want to be that to you. That was the reason we were referring.

Whenever you say we, you sound like management, you say he as man. I meant they. Any time you

“should have said that, yeah, pronoun and David pronouns. Terrible pronouns. Not so much. You also”

had Adam Silver going to a small Nike store in Portland. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry by the

outlet. I'm getting the Brandon Roy swing man. What I wanted to do was not the

“chemical management of the studio. The master by tag lab Tobicher soft behind the internet.”

I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. You can say that you can do the back. You're a player now, right? But you don't have to do that. You're not. You're a player. You're a player. You're a player. And when you then work, you're a catcher. That's right. Save. You're a player. Hold your money back. Now it costs just out for me.