The Big Suey: Zaslow Is a Sexist (feat. Roger Bennett)

- Welcome to the Big Suri! - Presented by draft Kings. - Why are you listening to this show? - The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan-Lebittard podcast.

“- Sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that.”

- In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. - I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

- I've done it. - And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. - This episode of the Dan-Lebittard show was presented by draft Kings.

Draft Kings, the crown is yours. - Are you doing coffee again on an empty stomach? I feel like I can hear your stomach again. - It's not mine. - I'm pretty sure that it sounds like what I've heard

in the past coming from your stomach. - Did you have breakfast? - I did not. I looked before the show started. - I'm baking.

- There's no bacon over there, which is always a big luck.

- Okay, but it's always loud when you have a ton of coffee 'cause you're drinking coffee straight from a thermos. You've had how many cups of coffee have you already had today? - This is probably my second thermos.

- Oh my God. - Yeah. - On an empty stomach. - And I'll keep going to like 4 p.m. - I'm not a breakfast guy.

- Well, but I hear it in your stomach. - Thank you.

“- Your stomach is asking you to be a breakfast guy.”

- I need like way more, way more coffee. - This screw goes off. - You screwed up your own line. (laughing) Look at him laughing and screwing up his own line.

- We didn't even notice your pickup there. - I need way more coffee. - Roger Bennett is the founder, the CEO, and the gorgeous face of the men and blazers, media network.

He's got another New York Times bestselling book. It's opening today, by the way, and I know it's gonna be a bestseller, even though he's got previous bestsellers. We are the world, a personal history

of the world's greatest sporting event. We're 100 days out from the World Cup.

Always good seeing you, Roger.

Thank you for making the time for us. Greg was saying that he thinks there's the possibility that the US is gonna play Iran in the World Cup. I don't think Iran's gonna play in the World Cup. I don't know for sure, where are you on this?

And welcome, Roger. Let's greet him with a little bit of war to start the proceedings. - Oh, man, Danny, you baked Danny, that's a lot. We covered a lot of ground.

My book, we are the World Cup. Is the official title, baby? And it is a joy to be back with you. You gracious human being. Where am I on war?

Is that your estimate? Is that the threshold for what we get? - Well Greg Cody thinks that there's a chance that the United States will play against Iran and I don't think that's probably gonna happen.

- You know, the joy of the World Cup, it's why I wrote the bloody book, man, is that when it kicks off, it's like a global eclipse that strikes the entire planet for its duration.

And the memories it makes, which this is a book of memories, are so powerful because the World Cup is a mirror to the society that surrounds it.

I'll be honest, Dan, I've always thought

that was an amazing thing. When two teams take the field and World Cup play, you know, when the Red Sox, you know, play the athletics, that's an amazing game of baseball. It's like chess, we're chewing to back out.

But it is what it is. But when two World Cup teams take the field, their nation's histories, the nation's politics, the nation's cultures take the field alongside them.

“That's what makes the tournament just so much heft,”

so much emotional way in all of that. And that gives us true global connectivity. I'm not gonna lie, we're 100 days away. The run up to the tournament has been chaotic. The, yeah, if it is a mirror to the world,

what we're seeing in the reflection is ugly. But that's kind of where we are. It's like the joy of the thing has always been that reflects our reality. And right now our reality is pretty chaotic.

- It's not global connectivity, right? I mean, where are we headed with this? What do you imagine is going to happen where the messiness from outside of the stadiums ends up inside of the stadiums?

- Yeah, yeah, I have the messiness, the leonal messiness is what we need. But the, I'd say number one, I've come to realize that football soccer, there's a German coach, you can clap who says it's the world's most important,

least important thing. And I will say, to me, it's become ever more important. The feelings we experience from it are all the more powerful because of the heft, because of the weight, because of what it provides to the rest of the world.

And I will say, typically when the whistle goes, when the ball's kicked, like the world it's like the rationale falls away, the emotional kicks over it, cognitive dissonance won, geopolitics, nail.

And every world cut down in the run-up in the modern period, 2010 in South Africa, all of the newspapers around the world were saying, the level of crime there, car jacking, everyone that goes is going to get assaulted

at best, murdered at worst. It was the most joyous world cup of, I've ever been to Nelson Mandela's shadow over the whole thing, the continent of Africa rising up. 2014, I was in riots in Brazil in the run-up

The nation was full of unrest, social, political unrest. They wanted social services and education, not the money to be pumped into the world football.

Second, that kicked off, it was a bullying.

2022 is another example in a different way, Qatar. I mean, a chaos and darkness in the run-up. And again, for good and for bad that cognitive dissonance kicks in. So I do think by the time that ball drops, the US take the field, England take the field.

You know, Kazakhstan take the field that we're going to be America loves a circus, the world loves a circus, and everybody will kick in. And then there will be that global connectivity because we bloody need it.

Roger, are you sure, though? Because those other examples you're talking about, those are countries and continents that care about soccer. The United States, I don't know that it can be accused of carrying that way.

- What are you talking about, Dan? What's the decade we in? Is it 1960? Are you like Jack Kempt taking to the floor of Congress

“in the '80s when we were awarded the '94 World Cup?”

And you're like, soccer? He said, he said, I wrote about him a book. Jack Kempt, the great quarterback, kind of great doing a lot of heavy lifting there. He said, we need to teach America's youth

to football is where you rush and run and throw and use your hands and not where you kick it. He said, one is American capitalism. The other is European socialism.

Dan, soccer was just the economist. Just revealed soccer is the third biggest sport in America. I was just on, what, A-Rod's show. And A-Rod kept saying, when's-- he said he asked me 10 questions the same one.

It was like, when's his soccer thing going to take off? I said, A-Rod, it's just be out baseball. It's like baseball's the fourth most popular sport. Soccer's third. He was like, go on.

I was like, I felt like I was saying that. I feel like to you and your listeners. I feel like I'm like, guys, I know you think the earth is flat. Stay with me here. It's round man.

Football is already massive here, Dan. You know it is. It's, it's Roger number three.

“You need the United States to be good at soccer.”

We're never good at soccer.

With our women, kick ass, take names, baby. We are so good, gold medal, when the winners, we perpetual. They're not last World Cup, but everyone before that. We are gorgeous. Yeah, on men, we invented the Corona.

We put a man on the moon. We've won one knockout game in our entire nation's history, going all the way back to George Washington, bit embarrassing. But God, football and sport is about eternal hope, Dan. Get behind the lads.

All right, that's one part that I've spent for it. I don't think this is DDA drug, but exactly staff in a civil war with the game of football. But I really appreciate your hopefulness here. Well, Roger, kick some Kenny Powers energy behind this team.

You know what I mean? You seem to rock out, go deep into the semi-final last time. Iceland, 220,000 people went deep in the Euro race before that. I do look at it and I'm wonder, why never Russ? Why never Russ?

I mean, you don't have to be good at football to give deep in this tournament. You just need a little bit of magic. So, let the hell, please make it. I'd just don't, I'd like to see the U.S.

When the World Cup wants on the men's side in my lifetime, Dan. Well, the home nation generally gets a little bit of bump as you know. Will that affect the U.S. hopes?

Like, what do you think the ceiling is for how well the U.S. team might do? What there is, the greatest individual set of footballers, we've ever had pound for pound in terms of the teams they play on. The caliber of European team, they play on collectively.

It's an unknown because we're hosting. They didn't have to qualify. They've not really been tested in the crucible of, it's like they played essentially NFL preseason games for the past year and a half, two years.

If you want me to be really honest for a second, I love this U.S. team. I wrote about it in the book, how 94 when the men's World Cup was last here, I've just moved to America.

I'd never seen an American kick as soccer ball before.

They took the field in stone wash denim. They had mullets, they were chewing gum, they had swagger. And they kicked ass and I fell in love with them immediately. I know I sound like I'm from England, but I cheer for this U.S. team with all of my heart.

And the one thing that I do fair is we were dialings of football in the World Cup 2014 in Brazil. The world really loved the team and they loved the fans.

“I don't know if you remember a Clint Dempsey,”

who has a show with us now, but that guy's spirit, just a gunslinger, who've always fancy distances, the candy, spirit. And the fans were, I mean, just everywhere in Brazil. And the world loved us.

The thing I do worry about is that mirror up to the world and who we are. And last year, 2024, if we played back to back games against Panama, their locker room talks about, the canal, and they beat us.

And then we played Canada a couple of days later, the 51st State Bruthorer. And Canada wanted to wipe the floor with us. And so we were the dialings. We're definitely going to be a team that many, many, many,

many, many, thank god Greenland qualified for the World Cup. Is I guess what I'm saying? - Roger, you hosted American Fiasco about the 98 World Cup experience. It was one of the best long-form podcast series I'd ever heard.

And I do think there are some comparisons with the promise of a couple of years ago, and a golden generation,

and then this team never really found its form.

Now I know it's settled in a little bit more, but are you afraid of a couple of years from now having to do a sequel to American Fiasco?

“- Look, in football, you need to know what you don't need.”

And for that, I mean, also the American owners, you've got to remember what down when you say about whether America cares about football. The Premier League, the best league in the world is now the majority of teams are owned

for better or for worse by Americans. And the ones that thrive, you're watching Liverpool, reborn under the Red Sox ownership, Tom Warner, and John Henry. When you speak to those guys, they know what they don't know about the anarchical world of football.

And in that '98 World Cup, the World Cup is bloody hard to win. Only eight teams have ever won it, and it's existence. To go all the way through the tournament with Supreme Focus, a culture of belief, and that element of luck.

But in the US had not qualified since 1950, they qualified in 1990, with a team, essentially of college kids hilarious. They were like tourists, we'd good tickets. They got a really close-up view of the football

as they got their ass kicked, and then '94. No, they did find, we mystify them and say they were unbelievable. They came third in their group, got into the next round July, fourth, played against Brazil, and lost valiantly, so left with their heads held high.

And in '98, this is an amazing American POV, and I love it.

I admire it, it's what drew me to this nation, interviewing the players about that time. One of them said the following to me.

“Remember, World Cup, bloody hard to win.”

Everybody knows how hard it is apart from the Americans. One of them said to me, '90, we showed the world we could qualify. '94, we showed the world we belonged, '98. We were gonna go there and win it.

And of course, they got, came rock bottom, they were humiliated, they actually got beaten by a round one of the, I wrote about it in my book. I mean, a loss that set the game back, probably by about 20 years in this nation.

And that's the sad thing for me, as someone that loves the rise of this game, in this nation, I mean, it's been the story of my life, the biography of my life, America, when I came here in '94 was like space to Captain Kirk,

the final frontier for the game. We are now a true football designation, but the men's national team, we love a dream team. In the United States, and it remains a dream on team,

“and please God, it will change in my lifetime.”

- The book he has is out now, we are the World Cup, a personal history of the world's greatest sporting event. What are you expecting in terms of nations with drawing boy cards, all of the fun that politics will bring?

- You know, we gotta get Jake Tapper on the show, get me Tapper, get Blitzer on, get Katelyn Collins on, and we'll go on the geopolitical tip. The right now, the Iran question,

the answer is nobody knows.

Iran have qualified for this World Cup. It was incredible 36 hours after the weekend's news, the head of the Iranian Football Association was already putting out a statement, and it's everything that was going on, saying we don't know if we'll be able to play in this World Cup.

It's an unprecedented situation. Teams have pulled out of World Cup before India 1950, because they didn't have the money to travel to the tournament. Austria, for even darker reasons in the 30s, because they'd been annexed by Germany,

and so the Austrian's played on the German team, I crap you not, again, a mirror to the world that surrounds it. So the Iran situation is unprecedented. FIFA are trying to catch up. They're FIFA, the organizing committee for the World Cup,

are trying to play catch up with these fast-moving realities. There's rumors that if they are not able to play, Iraq would play instead, or the United Arab Emirates. So I have to say, but in terms of the rest, there's been no conversation, no talk.

A couple of footballers have ruminated publicly, but again, once you get closer to this World Cup, it is crazy. We saw it with Qatar. There was a lot of ruminating in the run-up to that World Cup,

once the Lionel Messi walks onto the field,

“the world is mesmerized, the world is connected,”

and the footballers, they dream of playing this tournament. For that whole life, and say once that goes, the tournament kicks off, and it's just, I mean, it is actually the global eclipse in that moment. - Who do you expect among the host countries

to go the furthest from Mexico, Canada, the US? You're expecting the most from whom? - I'd love the US, come on. I mean, God, we need to... - Not at all.

- I hope, not what are you hoping, Roger? Can you, you can surely, you can separate your emotion from your analysis. - Without emotion, I have nothing down. I'm just a broken husk of a human being.

I am, you remember I'm dead inside. The only reason I watch football 'cause I feel emotions that you feel everyday down like happiness, pain, sadness, triumph. I'm without football, I am genuinely dead inside.

I tell you what is a fascinating storyline, and I can't wait to watch it.

“Is Canada led by Jesse Marsh, this child of Wisconsin.”

You know, a US stalwart as a player.

And the amazing human being, I'm super fond of him.

You know, quite outspoken, quite, you know, he wanted to be the US coach. He believed he was gonna be the next US coach. He was not the next US coach, and then he just boom, became the Canadian coach.

And he's built this incredible collective, they young. They are multicultural, they're a reflection of a very beautiful dynamic Canada. You know, they are a, when the, when he lights the taper, they are a firework of a team.

Sometimes they're a damped squib, but watching them in this world cup on home turf, they've got their own narrative of Canada becoming a deep football loving nation, just like us, you know, their prime minister is a massive football

fan, Mark Korn, an enormous Premier League fan. Huge evidence and fan, which is the team I support. They're essentially like the Metz, they're just paid an agony, they're a pleasure that hurts. And so watching Canada, I think,

be fair, try win over their nation.

“Parallel to us will be, will be dynamic, beautiful.”

He's an empty husk who's dead inside, and he's written another book. We are the World Cup, a personal history of the World's greatest sporting event.

It's always nice talking to you,

always nice to have your insight, Roger. Thank you. - Dan Labato to better date ahead, baby. That's what I will say. Thanks for having me on and courage.

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Don Lebatard, this is the quickest it goes. Hey, this is the quickest it goes. Two guts. Everybody, this is the quickest it goes. Yeah.

This is the Don Lebatard show with this two guts. Do you guys have any opinions on Inter Miami? Not no parade, right? There's a championship, there was a championship, and we don't get to celebrate it with Messi,

and Inter Miami, but the White House, that there's going to be a White House visit, but not a parade, they're doing this wrong. It seems weird, right?

You're going to have a parade first,

and the parade should have been a month after the season ended. They blew it, and now they're going to the White House. I just hope that they've learned, you know, Miami has learned this lesson from USA Men's hockey, to not get too chummy, and do anything that's going to blow up in their face.

I want to be too hopeful there, the parade point is a good one, because, you know, the sports fan answered to a team

is, well, it's tradition. So is having a championship parade,

“and they went to an Indian tour instead,”

like Messi toured India, there wasn't, like so we are beholden to this championship celebration tradition, but not the more traditional one. This story actually made me look up, like how often did this happen, because I remembered the Golden State Warriors,

and it was a big deal, because they were the first team

to kind of break that tradition, but then it became fairly commonplace. Now, I know there was a pandemic in the middle of that, but the Eagles in 2018 decided not to go, I'd forgotten entirely that the Georgia Bulldogs

had no thanks Joe Biden, we won't be attending. And in this world, where there is a headline that'll blow you out of the newspapers every 12 hours, I don't see this being such a huge blowback, and look, this is an international team,

so it is a little bit different. This is not, even though it's an American champion, and they have proud Cuban American owners, which I do think matters in terms of this decision, they're not totally beholden to this.

I'm curious to see how this falls on David Beckham, 'cause I actually think he stands to lose the most here, given how one popular, look, Trump is super on popular in this country, he's even more on popular in his country, and David Beckham bringing his class and credibility

into that White House, being seen in a photo walk

“in this time in history, I think it's going to be”

most difficult for him to navigate. Messy has had all sorts of endorsement deals with different countries, he's like, we're all done. No one projects morality on to Messy. He's almost bigger than anything,

like he's been shaken everybody's hand. That's been a world leader over the last 20 years, but I am curious to see how this plays out for Beckham. I am a little disappointed, everyone knows my feelings on the matter, I understand why they're doing it.

I would say it's a little bit different, but I'm really interested in seeing what happens with Beckham.

Isn't the reason why I feel like the reason why they never did

a parade was they didn't think it'd be well attended, and I think they'd probably even write it. I think it was the Indian tour. If you say Messy is going to be celebrating a championship, Messy is such a star that I do think it would be well attended,

because everybody would want a glimpse of Messy, even though he plays him for Lauderdale, depending on where they have that. You imagine a championship celebration in Doral. I think that people would have turned up for it.

I think he had contractual obligations, hopped on a bird and did this Indian tour, and that was that. I don't know, you say that, but everyone would show up to see Messy. It wasn't like tickets were super hot this past season

to show up and see Messy play soccer. I feel like it was all over the United States. It wasn't for Lauderdale, where they were gouging you. I don't know about the gouging. To get to warrant that expense of this past season,

it was pretty affordable to go to these games. And I feel like the excitement, it kind of wore off.

“I think part of it is because Intermami does a horrendous job”

when it comes to promotion. I am interested to see what happens with this new stadium. The get in price for the new stadium kickoff game. First game is a lot.

It's a lot, but the second game.

Yeah, after that, it's not so affordable, yeah. Also with a parade, that gives opportunity from people from California and Nevada to come to the parade and gather versus going to the game before Lauderdale.

So people like free stuff, man. Free celebrations are things that are attended. Winners get, they get crowds. I don't think, I don't think the parade would have drawn hundreds of thousands of people.

I think it might have drawn 10,000, but that's enough. You have to have a parade, you know, bestow a parade upon your, your most loyal fans. They expect it, they deserve it. I think you're right that it would have drawn something

like 10,000, and that's an extremely Porsche. I mean, we didn't really care about, I mean, maybe Mike did. But like, we didn't mention the parade until this. Now that they're going to the White Hat, I mean, I feel like we're kind of...

Well, I was waiting for the parade and then it just didn't come and I was confused by the absence of a parade. Yeah, I was waiting for a tour and I went to India. You can't tell me, you guys think, look, I know South Florida has this reputation.

You guys think a champion Messi is going to be going through free streets, our streets here, that are this Hispanic and people wouldn't be going to a parade. That thing a little, like, free, and he got there. I promise you.

It may not have been like your traditional parade, but they could have had, like, hey, come celebrate with this team and like, I don't know, downtown D'Oreal. Like, they could have had a championship celebration. Yeah, the big three team had a championship celebration.

Really underestimating how Latin people like to get out there with their pots and pans to celebrate. Anything that's for free? Are you guys bad sports, City? I feel me and Juju went to unrival the other night,

which is, you know, women's three on three that just sold out Barclays Center over 18,000 people. They only had less than 10 days in order to buy those tickets and sell out. We didn't know that the semi finals were even going to be there

until just last week. And we go to the soundstage, and me and Juju

And I thought to myself, is this a Miami thing?

Ah, Trista, go tell all enrivaled. How about you, low of the price a little bit? I checked the prices for that, and for those games down here. Free stuff is way too expensive, low of the price low. Unrivaled, low of the price.

So unrivaled, too expensive, inner Miami, not gouging. I just want to get, I want to make sure I have this straight from Zazlo where he thinks there's an affordable, messy ticket in town.

“I think he is less willing to pay for women's sports than he gets.”

Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! What an accusation.

That is an accusation. Unrivaled is thriving. Unrivaled, did you see these numbers on unrivaled? And in their business, now David Samson has told us, he believes the WNBA is going to have a work stopage.

Not to throw you more into the bus, but I did offer you to talk to Kristen and get your free credential and you said, "We'll see." Okay, hold on, I was working. You went on Saturday night. And I also offered Wednesday.

I know, and I'm busy. See? Sexist. You're stuck. You're stuck.

You're stories old. I hate to be that girl. I'd seem like you enjoyed being that girl, and it seemed like you really trapped them. You cornered him with an assurment of options, and now it's just I'm busy that Wednesday.

Without us going on with a WBA in the CBA, here's how unrivaled revenue breakdown this season was.

In merchandise, they made $4 million, which is a 100% increase from last year.

The ticket, and they made $5 million, the total revenue was $45 million, a 66% increase. I mean, I think they're thriving. They found an avenue. They do have a bit of a campus near the airport, which is not something that you ever see down here in South Florida.

They build a city for these women to have a concentrated area where they have, it's a city. It's just a campus where they can play, and really challenge the WNBA. You've got to think, even though they're different seasons in timing, you've got to think that unrivaled would be possibly rooting for a work stoppage in the WNBA to get stronger as a lead.

“Well, remember, that was a theory when a piece of collar got up there with her whole speech”

about Kathy Anglberg, she's the worst leader in the history of the world, and part of the theory there was, well, you know, she and her husband, there's like an ownership state. They have, in this other league, if the WNBA has a work stoppage. That was a theory. How can unrivaled continue to be a success when they play in front of, what is it, 800?

Well, it's a tele, it's for television, it's made for television, they don't, you don't sports in general, Greg, don't need fans to attend the games anymore, it just needs to be a tele, actually it's a sound stage is what it is. But it's sad, though, right? I would say you're both right, yes, it is sad to attend something where I feel that there

are maybe fans that aren't real sports fans that are in high levels of attendance, that are not passionate about all sports, but number two, they went to Philly, they sold out that arena, they went to New York, they sold out that arena. It's not a problem. It is kind of a problem, it's a sound stage problem, it's a pricing problem, but you could

take this thing on the road, baby, go to all different NBA arenas all season long, say we get a work stoppage on rival that said, hey, we can, we could blow this thing out to five on five, we could blow this thing out to more teams, we could just keep going, we're set up for that.

“I think the thing that Jews you pointed out, though, that is really important that I don't”

know if David Samson has any information to share with us on his lesson, we got some

revenue numbers in the second year, I don't see any transparency with the numbers for

the WMBA, which actually is a violation of the National Labor Relations Act. Exactly, WMBA going into tricking themselves out the streets, because as they're growing up with the unrivalid, which it is, 18,000 fans last night showed up in Brooklyn, the blueprint has been put out by the big three, they show you this thing and work, ice cube salute, it was coincide, bro, this thing can work and I think that the unrivalid is putting so

much more pressure on them CBA meetings than they would have actually been without them. So I think that unrival might be, I didn't talk to anybody, I don't know anything, but if you got stocked to buy, if you got some free money, I would invest in the unrivalid, you know about that tricking yourself off the street then, you know about that National Labor Relations Act, you know about that West side Greg, West side, absolutely, I've been

there, you've been there, just got back with Vegas, that's not really what it's talking through to Western, I know, the unrivalid, Billy, somebody is written in here, I need way more.

It sounded like you were speaking aloud, my bad, it's really unrivalid, 100% on me.

Two gods, but like I was without saying that it couldn't have one out. He said he didn't Why Greg yeah Greg you apologize then Greg sincerely this is done live at our show with their two gods What NBC and peacock are doing tonight we are on peacock we're on NBC sports now every day 12 to 3 PM Eastern and they're doing a throwback and I wonder when they do John Tesh And they do some of the nostalgia that they're doing with basketball that's tailored to my demo and

Greg Cody's demo when they have Hannah Storm and Mike Fratello and Bob Costa's and just a different time in basketball coverage

When NASCAR's champion Michael Jordan was ruling all of sports

“I want to play a clip for you of Pat Riley. I wonder how many people know or remember that when Pat Riley was out of coaching for a while”

He went and did television with Bob Costa's and he did it really poorly Pat Riley talks about how Bob Costa's had to coach your mob how starched he was he was not good at television But he was very presidential he was very he he was very slick obviously. Let's play a clip as peacock and NBC celebrate the old times tonight Here's Bob Costa's and Pat Riley

Okay, the Chicago Bulls trying to get even before we head back to Los Angeles with the lead of 48 43 at halftime Well, ladies and gentlemen, this I guess is what some of you have been waiting for and I must say that I am

“tremendously disappointed this is what I labored all season for”

Apparently this gunk has been so trained in your head that even when you blow dry all we get is this I mean We ought to really I have something to say right at the end of this analysis and then if we get into the analysis, then we'll see what it really looks You got a brush in your pocket or what I got one right here Robert America demands to see it right now right at the end of the analysis. We're going to get a good time job We got to this commercial break. You want to get a one more drive oops it really doesn't move it really doesn't

I'm doing the very best I can oh I'm sure for the audio audience the chemistry was just off the charts too

“Really awkward how about that score 48 43 at the halftime”

I don't make him like that anymore Sad's low. How do you feel about going into the nostalgia bucket for this stuff love it look at that their smarts Who does it love nostalgia? You're watching that brought I love young people well Okay, but there's also a major demographic that has money that loves nostalgia and I loved everything about that clip Bob Cossus was so young there. I loved seeing Riley the music the crap. They're going full on with those graphics tonight and BA on MBC

I'm into that broadcast tonight. I am too and I'm surprised With everybody so hungry for content now. I'm surprised they don't do the nostalgia thing more often for example I would listen to and at least part of an NFL game with with Howard Cosselle and Don Meredith

You know what I'm saying that would be amazing giving that they're both dead right a miracle right

But but I mean a replay of of them back and I don't think you're going to watch this I don't think you can find this. I don't think that you know how to find peacock on your television. Isn't it NBC It's peacock, but NBC is NBC that is six. I don't know. I asked my wife channel Sign up and so that it that's where it'll end and then you begin the garage having beer not watching No, I'll bring my beer into the house lucky this time, but I'm just a minute of it

Watch two minutes of it. You'll walk by I will wax nostalgic. There is a news item because when I saw the the list of people there

Oh, I know you're talking about no more. I know you're talking about that as you know about that every

Everybody hates him though everybody hates him Dan, you know by that peer Vesie. Yeah, everyone dislikes Peter Vesie Right and I know that so just let's put that lightning rod in the middle of it because he is so cranky He has it like was when in his heyday when he was a huge part of that show I would love to throw him in there didn't Michael Jordan say terrible things about him in his speech

“Yes, exactly. Do you realize how hate it you have to be for somebody in the Hall of Fame”

Speaks to point you out and talk shit about you. Yeah, but when that person's Michael Jordan you kind of understand He seems pretty petty with it. Michael Jordan's was among the angriest hall of fame See speeches I've ever heard thinking it wasn't even celebrating it. It was just sort of taking out all of his doubters and Peter Vesie When it comes to what's happening in basketball at present Last night trade young gets ejected from a game before he's actually played for the wizards

What are you shaking your head about this hilarious? It's it's so trey young

It's like wait it wait to introduce yourself. How is it so trey young to be ejected before you've played your first wizard game?

One of the bad boys. That's one of the reasons he's no longer in Atlanta is that they got tired of his act His act was not playing B. Yeah, other and a bad hairline other than that. I know what I know Well, exactly like run our tests. What do you know? What do you even know the details of what he did to get ejected? He was Are you a call right one of his like two of his guys got like cheap shot it and he was like arguing like defending his players like to the refs

Like why are you not calling that? Okay, and then and then he got thrown right classic trey young He was defending his teammates though. Okay He's not even in the game. You don't do that in the bench. Well, I'd say actually I would say that if you're going to punish trey young in that situation you make him stay there and watch the wizard's play

“Well, he didn't do it for an event. You ran out into the court. That's why he got to check the four going on to the court”

He's actually expected to make his wizard state. You finally this week. Right. I think his true crime was letting the spittle

Stick in his beer while he was all you ain't get out of here. I'm ejecting you. I don't care Do you guys think it's actually bad if you're trey young to be sent away From there early and you don't have to spend any more time watching the game. You could just I don't think you have to stay around after that If you get it if you get ejected from the bench capital one worst arena in all of the NBA buy far It is a best buy at best very blaring best by a haulage in lamps

Terrible crowd. I would want to be out of there if I was trey young as well It does make me laugh when I hear heat fans complain about the present state of the heat and I look at an organization like that Playing in a warehouse where you can hear all of the speaker and the DJ because there's no bodies for it to bounce off the care about anything I imagine the history of the wizards is so profoundly bad that I really don't think it's a penalty to send him away early from that game

“I think if my dad saw the clip of what cuz like one of the his teammates got like run over and they just weren't calling anything”

I feel like if you saw the plays leading up to it You would be like I see why he's arguing there. Those he knows he doesn't need more information not just about this in life He's done Greg Cody is done accumulating information He knows what he knows and that information either supports his belief or is to be rejected Bulletin in the NBA if you're on the bench And you run under the court yet tend to be punished for it

I don't know if trey young didn't know that but if I if I'm a wizard fan all excited about getting trey young and this is how we introduce Are we still doing bulletin like pull it I do You're just announced bulletin I'm but put it on the poll. I'm a touch show. Do you know what a bulletin is? Nostalgia night on peacock. He won't be watching. He can't find it

You've been doing this for the whole time, and then you've got it. No, not at all. This is my safe space. Do you have anything to say?

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