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College football insider Ross Dellenger joins the show after attending the college sports roundtable at the White House and President Trump’s plan to overhaul college athletics. And NFL insider...

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Good morning if you're watching on peacock or NBC Sports Network. Or listening on our radio affiliates around the country, including I heart radio and Fox Sports Radio. You know, the college football, college basketball, the whole conference that they had at the White House on Friday and the president there.

You had 50 esteemed individuals who were there representing different entities. You know, you have former coaches, you have TV executives. I wanted to know why not have a current coach and or current player or players. Because you are talking about them. Ross DeLinger covering a event on Friday on who sports senior college football reporter.

What was your biggest takeaway from this on Friday, Ross?

Dan, I noticed that you you let out an exhaustive sigh. You started talking before you started talking about this event.

I would say that plenty of people in attendance probably had a similar sigh a...

You know, I think the goal of this event Dan was to bring attention to the issue by gathering all these important people,

these dignitaries at the White House and front of the president.

So I think there was a goal of number one bringing attention to the issue number two by way of bringing attention to it.

Maybe you put pressure on congressional lawmakers to push something through a college sports bill through the Congress, which is what the president wants, has said he wants.

And I think actually it accomplished goal one, it certainly got people talking and had the attention brought to it.

Whether we'll get a college sports bill from it, I'm not sure. There's a fight in the Senate over a bill in a fight in the House right now.

And there's a bill that probably could get to the floor of the House to govern college athletics as soon as next week.

But I don't know that it'll pass, there's confidence it'll pass the House, there's not confidence as we learn during the roundtable and Friday at the White House that it will pass the Senate.

So still a lot of hurdles and of course one of the things we found out that was a little bit of a surprise Dan was the president saying he'll issue another executive order to govern college athletics.

I'm not sure what will be in that, but he already issued one back in the summer and it didn't change much about anything, so I'm not sure how this one will. Yeah, and if I'm wrong, tell me, but an executive order can't make a law provide antitrust exemptions or override state laws or policies in the executive order, they can be challenged in court. So I don't know what's going to come out of this if anything. But were there any ideas any initiatives that were actually brought up in this roundtable. Not anything novel or groundbreaking, there was a good amount of time spent discussing the score act, the college sport to build its in the House that has twice failed to get to the floor because they didn't have the votes.

Again, that I think next week or maybe for the following week, we will see that finally move. There's a lot of talk about the score act.

And then there's a lot of talk from the president specifically about the judicial system, which you could tell he has sort of a vendetta against because of rulings that have come against him the last few months or so. He sort of blamed college forces current situation on on judges and on their on their rulings. So no, they give back to your question, not a whole lot of novel concepts that that we learned just college sports folks sitting around with the president complaining about judges in hoping for something to happen in Congress.

Why not a current coach or current players? Yeah, well, I mean, I think a group of small group of media, we got a few questions and had to very in and someone did ask the president why there wasn't a current college athlete on the panel. And he turned a vendetta of being who's the Yankees president who actually put together sort of put together the round table and said that. While there's no current athlete now around this specific round table that in the future if this group continues, there will be athlete voices sort of joining.

And in the parallel, the group will continue maybe not as big, they're going to break off into sort of like a smaller subgroup, I don't know, 35 10 people to continue. Working with the legislature, this is the, that's the thing, Dan, that you, you read all that's accurate about the president in an executive order he can't do a whole lot. There's not a whole lot of power there, you need, you need congressional action. So this small subgroup of the round table will work with lawmakers to try to shape college sports legislation that.

You know, grants conferences in the NCAA, the power to enforce their rules, preempts the state in ILO laws. And teams athletes is not employees, that's sort of the three main things they want to happen now for the casual fan, Dan, part of what they want is an anti trust exemption to enforce their rules around transfers. And the cap, the salary cap that we have now and in college college athletics in the movement, just the movement of people transferring in eligibility standards. So that's how the casual fan might eventually see a bill come to fruition is so much pressure from all these eligibility cases that we've seen and the movement of transfers in college athletics.

What does Nick Saben play?

Well, I, you know, I think he's, he's got a pretty big voice number one and for whatever reason the president once and to play a very big role.

He was, you know, this commission or this round table that was put together was something glass burning almost a year ago that kind of got out publicly. And the president wanted Nick Saben to chair it and Nick actually didn't really didn't want to be involved. And so somehow you got talked into being involved now at this, at this round table. He certainly got a big voice and the president wants him involved.

And you know, if you listen to Nick Saben, you know, he's, you've got a lot of good ideas.

I think he's, he's got other ideas that some athlete rights folks may disagree with as far as the restrictions imposed on athletes.

And that's the real argument here again. And that's why Congress can't get a bill for who is because you have most Republicans that are leaning toward the NCAA sort of side and more restrictions on athletes and more control for the NCAA.

And a democratic side wants more control and freedom for athletes. But right now that control and freedom is, as the college administrators might say, and have out of control, right?

And so they want some kind of rules of regulation. So you have this fight going on between Republican Democrats that I don't see getting resolved anytime soon.

College football in better shape now or 10 years ago. Since the athletes are getting some kind of conversation right now from the multi-dollar business that is college football, you have to say that in a better situation.

But I think the unregulation and the intense movement that we're seeing among transfers and things like that in the situation with the inconsistent eligibility.

A standard that it's not in a place, it's not in the greatest place that it could be. So there's this balance that has to be struck on how many how much rule and regulation, how much restriction do you put on athletes? Because they, you know, 10 years ago, they had virtually none, right? They had no hardly any freedoms. And now maybe the argument is they had too many freedoms. And so we don't have any rule of regulation. There's got to be sort of a balance there. And usually you get to that balance by what the NFL and all the pro leagues have done.

And which is collective bargaining, but it's not that evening college and it has been a big topic of discussion, but it's not like you can push a button and get there, but many administrators want to try to start taking steps and down it down toward a collective bargaining agreement of some sort with major college football and basketball players. Thank you, Ross. Good to be on Ross Delinger, y'all who sports senior college football reporter. You know, I know there's a lot of legalies in there and, you know, Ross trying to dumb it down a little bit for us.

Just so we can kind of understand what this means now what it means, the upcoming season. Your school, if you're in the SEC Big 10 or your ACC or Big 12 and there's a lot of moving parts here. Nothing's going to be solved anytime soon. You know, once you have both sides of the aisle, not agreeing on this, it doesn't matter. You know, the president can say whatever he wants. It's not going to have an impact, at least not anytime soon. Even if you have another executive order, it's just there's only so much you can do. It sounds grander than what it is.

But it's college football better now is the product better now. I know it's better for the players, but it's the product better because I can look past the other stuff. If I say, hey, when I'm watching is entertaining, it's I don't like that you can transfer multiple times.

I think that there should be a cap on that, but if you want to try to, you know, make these players employees and have unions and, you know,

there's a lot of work to be done. But I think they could have cut this off at the path and they could have, they could have prevented a lot of this, a lot of this. Because I'll go back to when, well, you're getting a free education. Yes, but if you look at the, the schedules of these athletes, it's a work schedule. And I wonder about school, or at least I did. Coach Sabin said, we don't spend enough time talking about education.

I don't know if these kids are going to school to get an education.

I don't think it's the way it was if you're over the age of 50 where you go, you know, get an education. You should be happy. You got a free education.

This is big business. This is billions and billions of dollars.

And they were labeled student athletes. And because of that, it's like, well, you, you got a free education. Yes, you do, but it's so much more than that. And yes, education, you know, that's a rumor. It feels like. And as I've said many, many times, I'm waiting for somebody to be ineligible academically ineligible. I don't even know if we're enforcing that anytime soon. Yes, Paul. It's a really tough question to answer is college football, the product better now or 10 years ago. It felt like we missed the regulation of college football and more control, but if you look at what NL is done, look at Indiana, one of the great stories in sports history, not just college football.

And I think that directly happened because of the openness of college football now compared to seven eight years ago. Well, you're bringing in schools that weren't in contention before. And I think that's a good thing. Instead of it being top heavy, where it's the same five to seven schools,

you get a school like Indiana to win the national championship. Never in my lifetime would I have thought that that was possible.

And at times I still don't believe it, but you, you need to have those stories. All sports needs to have those stories, where it's not predictable.

That's the beauty. And, you know, even this year's Super Bowl is Seattle and New England. I don't think many people had either one of those teams going that far. But the possibility is there. You always want that with your leagues. Hey, the spurs, they might be the team to beat in the West. It's a great story. Not the, well, it's going to be the same teams, same schools. And I think that's something that is very promising in sports. All right. Let me take a break. We'll talk about the NFL news here. My tan and bomb from the mother ship will stop by. We'll take a break. We're back after this. Dan Patrick show.

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And Mike Tanambam at the center of all of it. He works for the mothership NFL front office in cider. You can see him on get up sports center NFL live Mike. Thanks for joining us. Why not if you're the dolphins.

Keep to a on the roster if you're paying him. Great question. I think Dan they're resetting things. It's year one. Let's take the cap charges.

Let's eat a lot of the money this year. Some of it's going to go to next year and start fresh.

I think it's sending a message about culture and more about the future.

And then, hey, if we went six or seven games or eight games this year, that doesn't matter. So I understand why they were doing year one with new head coach year one with new GM. Are the dolphins going to be tanking? I don't know if they're going to be tanking, but I think it's going to be really interesting. Dan, if you and I are having this conversation October and November, they'll be a number of teams that are

more interested in fishing closer to the top of the draft than to make it in the playoffs. And I don't know if they're going to have a tanking problem the way the NBA does. But without question next year's draft is loaded with quarterbacks. And there's going to be a number of teams that may be out of it in the middle of the season. It'll be interesting to see how they can port themselves when we get there.

But to a, if he signs with the team, he still gets his money from Miami. That's correct. There's three, there's three corebacks right now. Kyla Murray, Gino Smith and Tua, that are all have massive guarantees from their previous team.

All three of those corebacks will sign for about $1.3 million this year.

So it's not necessarily comparing apples to apples when you talk about Daniel Jones or Kirk Cousins or Malik Wallace with those other three because a team is going to see one of those three players as tremendous value.

If you ran the Dolphins, what are you going to do at quarterback position?

I'm probably looking for a bridge quarterback. And then looking at next year's draft because it could be historically great. Look, the season hasn't been played yet. We'll see how it goes. But, you know, there's a chance for it to be really good. So not just necessarily Miami Dan, but if I felt like I was a year away or just trying to establish myself,

there's over 10 new head coaches. I'm sure a lot of teams are going to have a very similar mindset. Max Crosby, Raiders getting two first round picks from the Ravens. Let me start with the Ravens because I wondered about this last week. Why aren't more teams taking the approach the Rams take? Like Buffalo getting DJ more.

I mean, I got to be all in because we know that window of opportunity doesn't stay open very long. And the Rams, it feels like for the last decade, have been all in. We don't need our draft picks. We're going to get people who can help us win, or at least compete for another Super Bowl. The Ravens went all in with Max Crosby, Buffalo with DJ more.

The Rams, you know, getting McDuffing, why don't more teams follow that blueprint?

Yeah, I think it's very sound and in particular, you're asking about Crosby.

You know, there's a couple really interesting things. First of all, he's only 29.

He's incredibly productive and he's exactly what you want for your locker room. He's a force multiplier. He's going to make everybody in that program better. The interesting thing then that no one's really talked about is just the mentor,

One from this nice young ascending coach that will have a reasonable break in...

to like there is no funny mood. Like the expectations for a rookie head coach have never been higher.

If Lamar's healthy, he's a two-time MVP. You have one of the two or three best pass rosers in the league. You have Derek Henry, work on Smith, Kyle Hamilton, amongst others. Like this guy is funny moves about 10 minutes. If you ran the Raiders, what do you do? You got more cap space than anybody.

You got two first round picks. We know what you're doing with one of them.

What would you be leaning towards if you were running the team?

Three things, offensive line, offensive line, offensive line. I am, damn, I am drafting Mendoza, but I am not playing. I would have kept Geno Smith. And here's why, if you go back last year that they gave up more stats than any team, you could look at it from a few different metrics. Don't ruin for an animal Mendoza before he's ready.

I think he has a chance on the upside down to be Matt Ryan. A taller guy, a good arm, a good athlete, not a great athlete. He's going to need a firm pocket. That's something that the Raiders have really struggled with. So why are we in a rush to play him?

I would go out and get somebody else to start at least half the year and make sure that your offensive line is settled before you do anything with Mendoza. If you don't want to ruin his career before they have a chance to be good. Yeah, I'm right there with you. I've been using the Andrew Luck analogy that you had this future Hall of Fame quarterback.

You just didn't have a very good offensive line. And it eventually caught up to both the cold and Andrew Luck. Can you quietly shop to the number one pick if you're the Raiders? Yeah, I'm not so sure they have it. You know, like just from teams being at Arizona or the jets,

could just say, hey, run into them at the combat and say, look, we're not negotiating. Tell me what the bill is. Tell me what the price is. Is it three runs? Is it four runs? Chances are teams are going to do that because I'm sure they're looking at it

at a multi-year sort of view of what we had talked about. We can think about Dante more next year, Archmany and Lenore sellers. Like, aren't on and on though, private.

I think five or six first round quarterbacks.

If they play, you know, reasonably well this year. So I think part of what's going to hurt the Raiders from a leverage standpoint is teams are going to look at next year and say, we'll pay a premium, but we're not going to be unreasonable. Who had a better week or ten days?

Bill's Ravens Rams. I go with the Rams. If you and I were wearing the chiefs and we were just drafting the players on the chiefs. Clearly Patrick Mahomes is the best player. I'm not so sure that Trent McDuffie isn't two or three of their best players. He can blitz. He can tackle. He could play man.

He could play zone. He could play slot. He could play outside. He's very competitive. There's nothing he doesn't do exceptionally well. And if we look at the Rams and say, like, what was outcome determinative, I would tell you, like, they're a lack of play at corner.

You know, various Williams or manual forms. They didn't get the high level play. And we're going to have to at some point cover Jackson Smith and Jedba. Man to man. You know, we're going to have to be able to get off the field on third down. They could do that today. They can do that a week ago.

And I was surprised. Well, if I know, we've seen Kansas say trade, the Jerry's name. We see him trade, Tyre Kille. I put McDuffie in a different category. I think he's a great young player. And I was surprised that they traded him.

He's my 10 in bomb, ESPN NFL front office insider. What do you expect the rest of this week? I think the quarterbacks are going to be fascinating. Because I think you put that bucket of three in one group. Again, that's to a Kyler Murray and genosmith.

Those are guys are all one year deals at a million three.

So like, that's one bucket. I don't think anybody goes after Daniel Jones because of the durability issue. But let's face it, Dan. Like, the colds are a little bit exposed. They took a six million dollar risk. The transition tag was six million less than the franchise tag.

Understandably. But now, let's see what happens with him. And then the other one's going to be Malik Willis. Malik Willis was somebody that hasn't played a lot. But got a lot better with Green Day.

And it's going to be fascinating to see where he signs. What about the colds going after Kyler Murray? You know, that's interesting, Dan. They like Riley Liner. They still have Anthony Richardson.

I would say they like Daniel Jones. That's why they transition him.

Look, if you and I were running a team, I would say for 1.3 million dollars. Let's go hit Kyler Murray. His ceiling is really high. He's only 29 years old. He's played good football. Not consistently. But he's put it on tape.

And I'm always for in a cap to a constrained system.

When you could take calculated risks and get a player that has a ability. For incredibly on a $300 million cap, you're essentially paying him nothing at 1.3 million. There's very, very little downside. Aaron Rodgers only going to have the stealers as a potential landing spot.

Yeah, I think so.

I mean, that's the only other team, but you know, let's face it, Dan.

He's going to be 43 in December. He's in all time great. One of the best I ever played, but it's close to the end. And what you're worried about there, and I've been around test the verdict at the end. Far back at the end. I work with Dan Moreno, like talk at him.

It's not their arm, Dan. It's their legs, and they're inability to protect themselves. And, you know, he's going to be 43. Father times undefeated. And if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I got to take a long, honest,

and sober view of, do I really need to do this one more year?

Yeah, I just wonder about landing spots. Even Kirk Cousins does he look at TV, and maybe commit to CBS, but with the caveat or the asterisk of if somebody calls, I might be leaving, although I don't know if CBS would do that. I think he had a pretty good debut as an analyst here,

but if you're going to replace Matt Ryan, you kind of want to know that that guy's going to be there on Sunday when you're doing your broadcast.

Yeah, I thought Kirk Cousins, like, I got to be close to the end as well.

Like, you know, he's a great dad by all accounts, you know, CBS seems like a pretty kid opportunity. You know, we'll see, you know, sometimes these guys are so competitive though, it's hard for them to leave. And by the way, a quarterback is going to look at Minnesota and say,

I can be coached by Kevin O'Connell. I have Justin Jefferson, arguably the best receiver in the game. Jordan asked, and TJ Hawkins, and that's a pretty good place to be. How did Minnesota miss on JJ McCarthy? Like, it feels like we haven't said the quiet thing out loud yet,

but it certainly feels like they realize they made a mistake. Yeah, I'm not ready to go there yet. You started 10 games. I think we got to give him a creative and complete. He's incredibly young.

I saw him practice probably six times at Michigan. He has attributes. You can't see. He's a natural leader. He has poise about him.

And I think there's too much upside to give up on him now.

What that said, if we could go get Kyle and Murray or Kurt Cousins, I'm going to have a competition. But we've seen too many guys from Donald, Gino Smith, Baker, Mayfield, go to their 1314 until quote unquote the light went on. And to me, we got to remember this.

Worst case scenario is not JJ McCarthy. Not working out. It's him working out someplace else. Yeah. Yeah.

That's true. But it feels like you're either good, really good with your team, or you know that you're going to get. You're going to be a backup quarterback. And then you're going to get your chance again.

It feels like there's two buckets of quarterbacks. It's that guy's going to bounce around and these sand Arnold or Baker, Mayfield or Gino Smith. Or you are going to get that quarterback. Who is going to be with your franchise from start to finish?

Yeah. How about this?

Like I just tweeted this a couple of months ago.

This is a remarkable statistic.

Kyla Murray is the seventh consecutive quarterback drafted first overall.

That wasn't on the team that drafted by the age of 30. The last quarterback to be drafted first overall. And still be us team at 30 was Matt Stafford. And he was drafted going back to 2009. So it's really remarkable how hard it is to develop a quarterback.

Now Andrew luck retired. But yes, seven quarterbacks in a row didn't make it to age of 30. You ever get in a shouting match with an agent? Yeah. More times than I would care to admit.

Can you give me one? You don't have to give names. But you don't allow me to get it. Oh, it got loud. There was one.

It was so bad that I actually not only did I call him to apologize. He was hiring a son as an intern. They felt so bad. We'll be watching. Thank you, Mike.

Great to talk to you again. All right. Appreciate it. Thanks, Dan. Mike Tannenbaum.

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A couple of phone calls in here. Mark and sink cloud. Welcome back, Mark. Hey, Dan. How you doing?

Good sir. Good. I got a couple of bests in a worse worst. I feel bad for the kids at Navy. But I'm sure free to see that the Navy announcer was really excited with Boston.

You hit that shot to take him out of the tournament. I'm sure he illustrated that. Well, best of the weekend. Your Johnny's a state judge at the University and your Bennings of the college. I was just saying that it both make it in the division three hockey NCAA tournament.

And I have a rule speaking of the division one NCAA tournament. I'd like you to consider what you think of this. If you don't finish above 500 in your conference unless you win the conference tournament, you can't get a comment on it.

Or you know, an at large birthday, they should say.

You can't get an at large birthday.

If you don't finish over 500 in your conference. So Auburn out. Saturday, Minneapolis, the leader in money spent on only France. Atlanta's number one nationally, but Minneapolis in the top five. Well, congratulations, Minneapolis.

It is cold there. You look at some of these teams that are bubble teams. You got Auburn there. 16 and 15 in the end of 18 and 13. Stanford, 2011, Boise State, 2011.

And they're probably they're waiting for Miami of Ohio to get bounced. Yes, Marvin. Auburn's a bubble at one game of above 500. If you're like 19 and 12, aren't you? Well, you can't be 17 and 16.

They're a bubble team. They did beat Florida at Florida. I don't know what their resume is.

And you got Bruce Pearl talking about his son who's the head coach at Auburn.

No conflict. Yeah. Yes, Marvin. But what about those 16 games they lost? I'm sure there's a couple of teams that they shouldn't have lost.

I agree. I agree. Babe. But, you know, if Miami of Ohio played in the SEC, they'd be lucky to be 16 and 50. Get ready for these arguments here.

And now Bruce Pearl, I think he's rooting for Akron to get in as well.

Maybe to beat Miami of Ohio to win that Mac conference tournament. But Miami of Ohio would still get in with just one loss. If Miami of Ohio was in undefeated, people would watch their game or games. They would. They would.

They would be. I don't know who these guys are, but they're undefeated. And that, you know, this is once again, it's a TV show. I bring it up every year. Even when you get matchups and it's like, oh, Bob, night's at Texas Tech.

And if he wins his game, then he gets to play Indiana. Oh, what are the odds of that? Yes. They manipulate it. Yes, Marvin.

I remember vividly, this had to be maybe 2007. It was O.J. males U.S.C. team against Michael Beesley's Kansas State team. Oh, what are the odds that they're going to put these to? How five graphics want to see him? Same game.

Hey, Todd. Would a neutral fan be wanting to tune in to see Mario Highl continue staying undefeated

or to see them finally lose again?

Well, you tell me. I want to skew negative.

But I think more people would tune in to see them lose their first game than to stay undefeated.

I hope I'm wrong about that. They would be rooting. No, they would root for them. It's an underdog. It's Cinderella.

Isn't that why we watch? Until eventually you want those teams to lose. Oh, I guess. Yes, but Miami, Ohio would be a great story. You know, Paul. Yeah, I think Todd's an island on this one because you root for the story and the run to keep going.

You don't want to story to end prematurely. I think it's a great story. Yes, more. The one part that hurts Miami, Ohio is that they don't have a Steph Curry or Wally Zerbieg. A guy that's going 25 and night.

They have eight guys that score 10 points in it. Yes. That damn team effort. We want to start. Boo, Sharon Ball.

Boo balance basketball. Boo bounce fast back door cuts. Yes, Todd.

And when is Indiana basketball going to make it come back?

The year and the year was a national title. We're talking about the Indiana who just has a bubble. It's to rub it in the whole football basketball that kind of you know. How about we take a break? More phone calls, read you.

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He had 23, 12 and 11 as the Kings beat the bulls. He now is 208 career triple doubles and NBA record. He had a ton of the, oh, okay. Stad on the day brought to you by Penini America, the official trading card to the program. He had kind of a tense back and forth with the reporter about you don't know this team.

You don't know me and kind of went back and forth there. So still fighting the men's college basketball title odds. Draft King's just sent those to me.

It's Duke with a slight edge over Michigan.

Then my Arizona Wildcats Florida, Houston, Illinois. Best in worst of the weekend. Todd, I'm going to start with you. Best in worst. My best of the weekend.

How about some luck or Tennessee state? They win the Ohio Valley Conference which gives them an automatic bid to the tournament. They haven't been there since 1994 as far as March Madness dominating more head state 93 to 67. Worst. I'm giving it to Great Britain.

Sorry, Great Britain in the World baseball class against Team USA.

After hitting a home one after week's school, on the first pitch of the game.

It happens when two for 28, 17 strikeouts. No walks. Good. Good. Yeah, that pitch that.

The Toreak School pulled through. I mean, it was meatball city. It was like, I'm going to get that first pitch over. You know, just getting started and all of a sudden, it is kind of build high and he built it. It.

Seaton. Best in worst of the weekend. My best is the Raiders. Actually, they got kind of a hall for Max Crosby. Maybe the people thought that their price they were asking was a little too steep.

But they found somebody to step up for it. And it seems like they're doing the right things. A lot of pressure now to do the right thing with those draft picks. But that that was a good move by them. And my worst Joe Burrow now in division has to face Max Crosby T.J. Watt and Miles Garrett.

If he was looking forward to next season, he should not be. Yes, Todd. But Joe Burrow was also seen recently with Jessica Alba at a casino table, which is something worth noting. I know, I didn't see that. I know.

In a. In a. I doubled down. Oh. Marvin Best in worst.

That's the weekend. Bigger one of the young man in the spurs coming back to get to LA Clippers in Wemby getting emotional. I mean, he was that dude is different. And he saved the all star game. I mean, he took the Americans to the limit in the Olympics.

I mean, he's just on a tear right now. Worst of the weekend.

My UConn Husky's losing to 11 in 19 market.

They shot three for 24 for three point range to end the regular season. And your coach gets fine $25,000. Bumping in official. He kept his cool. Yeah.

I wonder if they suspended.

I know that they immediately came out and said $25,000 fine.

And then he's afterwards goes, I don't think I bumped in. But if I did, they said I did. Then I guess I did. No, you did. Yes, Paul.

It felt like more of a grazing than a bumping. I don't know if there's any difference in price. But and I'm objective about this. I'm not a UConn fan. It felt like a grazing.

But but definitely contact. Okay. Best and worst. Too best. Nebraska cornhouseers basketball.

I watched them. That's been a good program for a while now. They're 26 and 5. We talked about football schools becoming basketball schools. And then Missouri Valley Conference Northern Iowa.

Four games, four wins, four days. To get the ticket to the big dances they call it. Yeah. They get to punch their ticket as they'd like to say. Good program.

You get to punch your ticket. Brian and Sacramento. Hi, Brian. Best and worst of the weekend. Hi, Dan.

Thanks for taking my call. First time. Long time. 5, 11, 205. Thank you.

Awesome. That's the weekend.

My nephew, freshman pitcher for Sac State.

Going on the road to LSU. And recording not one but two saves. Saturday and Sunday last night. So that was very, very cool. Worst of the weekend.

Learning that college baseball still has a 10 run skunk rule. Friday night LSU smoking Sac State. Not getting to see my nephew pitch. All right. Thank you, Brian.

Matt Nohaio. Hi, Matt. Morning, guys. How are you? I was spectacular.

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Well, anybody who's going to go to the Niners

to kind of have a pit stop a reset will benefit. If you're there with Kyle Shanahan, you will benefit as a quarterback. Mac Jones, Sam Darnell,

just to name a few. But, you know, to a can end up in Atlanta. I mean, if you have, you build your offense for

left-handed quarterback. Now you have two of them. And the in Buffalo. Hi, Andy. What's on your mind?

Hey, Dan. Thanks for taking my call. Best of the weekend. I know it's the start of the NFL New Year. But here in Buffalo,

everyone's ecstatic about the sabers. They, uh, their victory last night over the lightning. They're now installed possession

of first place in Atlantic division.

Looking a lot like they are going to and their 14 year playoff drought. And last night's game had everything you want in a hockey game. Four flights in the first period.

87 final score. And I do have to mention, uh, my five day old daughter, Reagan Mary. She has only seen the sabers win.

7 and 0 since the, uh, Olympic break. So thanks for taking my call. Go sabers. All right, Andy. That was wild.

Just see in the highlights. But there should be an app that says, Hey, tune in to the sabers lightning game. It is chaos.

Poly toyed with that idea of coming up with an app where it kind of alerts you to. Here's where to find it.

Or work it on it.

Or work shopping, man.

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