#2498 - Brendan Schaub

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[MUSIC PLAYING] Hey, hey, what's up, brother? It's me, man. Good to see you, man. This is a good time for you to come in, man.

Right after this weekend, forget your time, brother. Bro, I mean, everybody's talking about the Sean Strickland homes off fight and the debate, but before we even talk about that, bro, how fucking good is Joshua Van? And he's only been fighting about five years.

Cool, that's what's scary. Cool, raise five years. Crazy guy. And he has some holes for sure that certain guys aren't exposed.

But five-- think out-- is he not the best on the ground? He's also a 24, he's also a 24. Yeah, crazy athlete. But his fucking boxing.

It might be the best in the UFC. It's up there. It's up. Summer, Ilya. Yeah, wow, Ilya.

The thing about Ilya is Ilya's one punch night night. That's the difference. It's stuff at flyway to be a knockout artist. Well, then also Josh-- Yeah, but Dave's on Figuero.

True. True. It was starch and people. He was. But with Josh, too, again, he's 24.

But in Tutsi or Tira, he also just was blocking punches with his face. Well, that's the other thing. Like his defense was so bad. I think he was the Joshua Vans offense was so good.

And I think it's combo of bolt. Yeah, it's combo. Yeah, for sure. Because Tira is primarily a grappler. I mean, he's obviously a mixed martial arts fighter.

And he did strike.

“I mean, that's why he didn't completely get”

blown out of the water. He did strike pretty well. It's just that counters came so clean, so sharp. Like I rewatch some of it today. And I was like, could or that's pretty.

So good. He looks so good, and again, 20, 24, and you know, it took all the stink off of the way he won the title. Yeah, but not me, I'm sure not you. But there's a lot of questions that haven't been answered.

Oh, for sure. I guess Pantosia's a mother fucker. Potosia, I think it was a straight life lesson. OK. How would he do against Pantosia?

Hey, man. But again, his stock went up after this fight. I'll tell you that.

Look, it was always up, right?

But Tira was a real threat. Tira got him on the ground, wasn't able to submit him. Joshua Vange paced him up on the feet, man. But again, at 24, so let's say they do the Pantosia brimatch, whatever, Q4.

And let's say Pantosia gets that win. All good. He's 24. Right. He's going to be your champ for a very long time.

And how long, how old is Alejandra Pantosia? There's more and not young. In flyweight years, he's 67. Yes, flyweight's job 36. Oh, that's tough.

Yeah. That's tough. If he was a middleweight, he'd be like, hmm, that's the beginning of the slide. Right?

That's the beginning of the slide. Yeah. For Walterweight, you're like, oh, yeah. But it flyweight. Oh, bro.

It's crazy. Yeah. You have a weight.

It's like always in his prime.

Oh, we're cooking it. Look at Francis. Yeah. Francis is like 38 or something? Yeah.

Yeah. Francis is in his fucking prime. Well, I wait. Nobody looks at Francis who goes, ah, he's over there. Oh, never.

Not at all. No. There's some old cat that have a weight doing the damn thing. Especially now, heavy events. How old Volkhov?

59. [LAUGHTER]

“Honestly, he's just trying with Volkhov's old back in the day.”

Right. He was a beltour champion, M1 champion. He was a beltour champion in the early days of Bellator. Yeah. And remember he had in Bellator.

And the way he first got to UFC, he had that Moana tattoo on his back. Yeah. Yeah. That's the same. And he changed into that Japanese mask.

Yeah. I like this. They got the one that looks dope. I think I'm the one that kind of bullied him into doing that. Because it's all I ever talked about for like six years, really thought.

And he comes out just as dope as Sam, right? That's what I'm like, yeah. Well, sometimes you realize, like, this ain't making it. I got to fix this. Yes, especially that.

People like, bro, what do you have a fucking stingray on your back? Bro, speaking to tattoos. How many tattoos is Sean Brady have? So that's not the fucker's feet or tattooed, bro. Like his entire body's tattooed.

How good did he look for nominal? This thing, you know, I'm nominal.

I always get stressed out because everyone's asking for batting pics before the fight.

And I am amazed, tough dude. I'm amazed, tough the fucking pic. Yeah. So with the walking buckly fight, the reason I, I told my brother my, literally put your mortgage on Sean Brady.

Because walking buckly did an interview, like a week before, I was like, I'm not even working on a grappling. I'm not wrestling or grappling. I'm just going to keep this thing standing knock this motherfucking out. I was like, all right, buddy.

No way. Yeah, you can find it out there. But that could have been just a bullshit tactic to try to get Sean Brady because Sean Brady probably saw that interview, too. Yeah, it was like cool, say less than just I know.

But I mean, 10, 7 rounds, three of them? I know, it was nuts. But I mean, you could say that I get, I hear you.

But maybe he actually did that.

And it appeared so.

“It, well, hard to say, because that's how good Sean Brady is.”

Oh, great. It's just tough when you lose like that. Well, you go back to the, you go back to locker and we're like, fuck, we're not even in the same ballpark. No, like, I'm, what am I going to do?

You look at your coaches. I figured, what are we going to do? I thought I was a top five guy. Right. I just got to be 10, 6, 3, 3 rounds a row.

OK, I was going to bring this up. So I have some insight to this. So there was a very strange bedding behavior. It says it turns out to be meaningless. Bed online, cited abnormal bedding patterns as buckly moved

from plus 150 underdog to minus 220 favorite before the fight. So this is what happened. There's money that moved very quickly before the fight. And the UFC, obviously, because they've been through this shit with the guys fixing fights and the FBI

invested in it, they got concerned. And so I believe what happened is they minimized the amount that you could bet online, so you couldn't bet big money anymore. I don't know what the, let's find out what the cap they put on it was. But then you, they were going to go ahead with the fight,

but they wanted to make sure that Sean Brady wasn't injured. So this was the fear. The fear was that some inside camp word got out. Sean Brady's got an injury and then all the money jumps up. Because a lot of times that's what happened.

But they did it right because I, before they were just cancel the fight. Like, we don't know what's going to happen with Shane Kansfight. No, just take the fight off the bedding sites. Well, they only did that one time. They did that one time with the Alexander Hernandez.

I don't remember who he's fighting. I don't remember who Alexander Hernandez was fighting. But they did that with that fight. And I thought that was really crazy. Great. They asked Alexander, like, are you okay?

He's like, I'm fine. Like, I am planning on winning this fight. But for some reason, he became an underdog. Like, nothing came out from it either. Like, I wish they'd be a little more transparent.

Like, they really came to it. It's our bat, this, you know, but they just cancel the fight and so everyone, now we just assume something happened. Somebody's been dirty. Yeah, but then Hernandez fought again and lost his next fight.

Um, fuck, who did he fight? He fought someone on a fight night. It was a very good fight. Very close fight. The dude was very good.

But I'm glad they're not just pulling the fight. Oh, Michael, he was my, he was supposed to be Michael Johnson. Yep. But they didn't have that fight and then who did he fight next instead? So let's just go over this real quick before he figured out who he fought.

It made suspicious betting movement. So what, but what is suspicious betting movement? Like, what if you and your boys all go fuck it, I'm going all in and you just decide to bet $100,000 on buckly. Well, that changed it that dramatically.

I don't think we're talking about. I think we're talking more into that. So I think it's a, that they had certain, they have, I think they have certain accounts that they knew. Oh, we're shady.

Yep. Not shady, but I mean, they might be particular whales or whatever that are certain

better is that always we're betting, you know, $200,000 a fight or whatever and maybe

one or two of them changed to the judge's score that fight. Try to see it. Yeah, 25. Now I'm a betting pattern from highly monitored accounts. Interesting.

Highly monitored accounts is interesting for you better get a new account. They're figuring that out. They're on to you, bitch. But they just said that they called Sean Brady to hear at the bottom I was going to point out.

Says someone called him to let him know and he's like, well, I'm fine. I love it. He goes, I'm going to beat the shit out of this guy. What are you talking about? Now, get your good to go.

“I think that's what Alexander Hernandez said too.”

That's a bummer. Yeah. It is a bummer. We can also understand, you can also understand from the UFC standpoint, because when it happened especially then, they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Oh, yeah. No, they're in a bad spot right now with that because until that gets resolved, the, look,

the fight game has always been connected to fucking shady people.

That's a Marlon Brando movie on the waterfront. I could have been a contender. Yep. Yeah. That's what we lost too.

Oh, that's right. Half a Garcia. Very good fight. Very good fight. Half a phenomenal job.

But I think too back to the bedding. I think that's also a reason why now more than ever fighters get so much hate. Because if you, you know, you have a nine to five and you make a thousand dollars a week and you put 500 on say, "Hombsot." Yeah.

Is that 500? That's why it's so toxic now because, yeah, you're guys losing, but now it's costing you money.

“So I think that's why fighters get so much more hate these days than they did.”

Even when I was fighting, betting was the same thing. Oh, yeah. No, I think you're absolutely right. I think it's Rafa Garcia. Is it Rafa or Hafa?

Why am I saying it wrong? I feel like it's Rafa. I think so too. I think I want Brazilian on me. I get it from another.

Yeah, that you may have real good point about the bedding because that's why people are getting so upset because they are betting money on it. It's a big problem with some people.

And now it's like a polymarket and all these different things, you could bet on, you know,

you fucking anything. Anything. Anything.

“Do you know how about that fucking soldier that got busted?”

It moved. He bet that Maduro was going to get kidnapped, dude. But my thing is, it's like the Pete Rose thing. Least Pete Rose is betting on his team to win. Right.

Don't discipline him. If you don't think Trump's given him a part in your goddamn mind, well, that's awesome. That's a weird one. That's a weird one.

But I mean, why is that bad? But the insider trading in Congress goes unchecked. Oh, my God. Like that. That's crazy.

Like if you get mad at that people, what a hypocrite. You're also doing that. You're mad at that guy? Bousrole forces guy who, it's not like they're compensated that. Right.

Right. But the house that we fucking get this idiot. Right. And by the way, he's betting on himself because it didn't have to happen. That's what I meant.

That's what I meant. It's like Pete Rose too. It's like keep him in a hall of fame. I think they're going to let him in now that he died. But oh, great.

Yeah, cool. That helped. Thank you.

“But it's also like he never bet against this team.”

It's pretty gangster. I don't know if that's true. I'm pretty sure. I don't know. I read something online.

Really? He might have been this team. But at least at one on one game. I don't know if that's true though. I'm room for Pete Rose.

But I just read something. I mean, they might have been a Pete Rose hater. That's what I thought. That's what that's all right. It may give you the only better for his team.

I feel like that should be legal. That's what I'm saying. That's like this forces guy. What are you trying to win harder? You trying to win harder because you want money?

Yeah. That would be good. That's much force guy. Dude, you're really into this. Yeah.

Fuck yeah, dude.

I got a million bucks right on this.

No confirmed evidence has ever been produced. That Pete Rose bet against his own team. There you go. The Cincinnati Reds though, there's some speculation. All official speculation.

I must have read speculation. I mean, with the say, personably Pete Rose probably bet against the reds at some point. John Dowd said, but even he has acknowledged that his investigation did not produce conclusive proof of such bets.

“So if I feel like you should be able to bet on yourself as a fighter.”

Why not? We're just betting to win. Now, betting the lose. Different story. Different story.

But bet. So if you just say, is that because you can't tell them how to bet? Like, if you're going to let him bet, they have to be able to bet on whatever they want. Like, man, I don't know if I'm win this one. Man, I'm not going to try.

But I'm going to try. But I think I might lose. So let me just see if I can make a little extra money. Just in case I lose. Say, like, try my hardest.

I lost, but still make some money. Yeah, that's good. That's good. It just opens. I can't know when you don't want to deal with the problem.

Nobody's bet. Right. Because then it would if you want. You're like, I won. Yeah.

But I lost money. Because I fucking bet against myself. Yeah. You mean, don't money. It's like.

You don't have to be a fucking psycho. Like, to try to win. Knowing this could have cost your money. Like, your whole camp, paying your fucking traders, your manager, everything. Fuck it.

What's like the, the hams that streetland fight. You and I right when that fight got announced. We take these children. I went good fight. Good fight.

I know everyone's going, you know, hams that's a big favorite. But we both went, I don't know, man. I can see it. I was, I was not riding for Strickland the whole time. I was like, that guy is the fucking captain of the deep water.

He knows how to go into deep water, man. And he knows how to survive. He can survive. And the thing about hams that is, if he takes you down, he wants to hold you down. And just beat on you and not expand a lot of energy.

Like you did with Drecus. That's an issue. You can't do that with Sean. Sean is not going to sit still. He's very hard to hold down.

He's got super underrated grappling, super underrated. You know, we saw he almost threw hams out. Like later in the fight, you know, and he did wind up on top multiple times. Like it's, he ain't easy for anybody far from it.

And he had a blown out shoulder. Boom. That's the other thing. You know, hams out was compromised because the weight cut. It's like, well, hold on.

Sean had one fucking arm.

And when he did throw that right hand in that second round, he wobbled hams up.

No one was talking about that. The most significant punch was in the second round. Yeah. He flashed knocks out hams and hams. And he probably fucking jolted his shoulder with pain.

And still defend the day. Notice he was doing this at the beginning of the fight. Before the fight started, he was doing this with his arm. So he's warming up, he's doing this. But he kept doing this with his right arm.

And like, ooh, that's what I do. If my shoulders hurt to see how hurt it is. Yep. How does it feel the range? Yeah.

How does it feel? And he was only going to hear. He was only going to hear. He kept doing it. But dead pan killer look on his face.

That motherfucker still won. Yeah. He was my thing about it. Still fought. Well, a lot of guys would have pulled out.

A lot of guys would have said, I can't use my arm.

Especially for that magnitude of a fight. I think was strict with two now that he won. People are like, go see a Hall of Famer. My thing was strictly in two. It's like, he's going to be a bigger start now.

More than ever. I think that fight is the one that put him even bigger. The thing about shiclin is he's the guy that's not supposed to be here. Like, everyone, when we talk about, you know, Chetch Nins or Dagestans, wherever these war tone countries are from.

“And they're like, this is the only way they made it out.”

Dude, stricken with, grew up a poor white kid in America. Disenfranchised. Dude had a good idea. In America, disenfranchised. Dude had a abusive father. The odds are so against stricken.

So against stricken. And this motherfucker beat, arguably the best strike in the weight division of all time. When is he ought to sign it? Beat him at striking.

At struck in strike in in Australia. And then they give him, arguably the best grapple of all time in the weight division. And he beats him. So he, we're all of you listening.

All you guys are closer to Sean Strickland than you are to LeBron James or Patrick Holmes. He's just a tough white kid who trains his ass off. He's a blue collar guy. He doesn't run a 40 and a 44. He doesn't have a 40 and it's vertical. He's got one bad leg from a motorcycle accident. He's almost ruined his whole career. I get chills talking about. Dude, he's the guy. He's that blue collar guy through hard fucking work is a Hall of Famer,

and beat two of the greatest aminoates of all time. And in all sites, he's an underdog.

Fluffy, underdog. DDP, underdog. Granted, he lost when I thought he won that first bite.

“Homs on, under massive underdog. Is he massive underdog?”

Second fight with with DDP. He fucked the shoulder up, too. Driving a dirt bike. Like a fucking psychopath. Crazy. Cratch the dirt bike. Fuck the shoulder up and they told me you had a fight. So you had to take the fight. So you had to take the fight with the fucked up shoulder. And if one of the things you noticed about when he's throwing right hands in particular in this fight, I noticed it was there were awkward sometimes.

Yes. Sometimes they just looked weird. Like he was trying not to use his shoulder or something. He was compromised. Yes, 100%. And I saw some of that in the second strickling, the second DDP fight, you know, where it looked like he was kind of throwing his punches weird. You know, which sometimes he does any way because he goes around the guard. It's awkward. It's tricky. Yeah. He's throwing shit. You're not going to block correctly,

and then he's going to land clean charts. But when you see him when there's nothing wrong with him, like he had this giant break. Because he punched somebody in some fucking low-level promotion. No, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He came to wow. Yeah. He's a wow boy. So they gave him like a, a month's suspension, something like that. Six months suspension, whatever it was. So you see him against her and

Nanda is when he's perfect, and he looks fucking phenomenal. That's her. His striking look phenomenal. Everything looked phenomenal. And I'm like, oh, God. He looks like a better version of the guy who beat

“easy. He looked better. That's what he better said. And then he beats homes. I was one shoulder.”

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a 60-day money-back guarantee. Go ahead and take your shot. And so if you count them out based on that fight where you owe gold homes or a wound, a lot of people did. Look, it's a lot of people that know fighting thought homes out one. There's a lot that I think it's split among journalists. I think I was reading something. I think I was reading something. I don't really read anything, but I really read the headlines and then move on. You have to be careful with journalists.

I'll listen to former fighters and the horror people I've been around to give them a long, long time. If you have homes out winning, yeah, okay. Nobody was robbed. But I can be a pretty good argument licerica on when that fight, you know? I can be a damn good argument. I was talking to him inside the lockdown before the fight said what do you think?

And I said it was really close. It was really close. Because you really never know what judging.

You know, we've both seen fights where we were sure that one guy won and the other guy gets from the judge. So you don't know. So, you know, in my opinion, I would have to go over and watch it

tough. It's weird. Because like what you're trying to do is make some entertainment out of moments and put some weight to it and express to maybe the people that don't know exactly what's going on us then to your other partners in the book. Right. Well, DC's great at that. DC's the best at explaining shit to people that don't know what's going on when it comes to like wrestling in particular because he's such a elite wrestler. And there was a lot of wrestling moments in that.

“So like, that's what you're doing. So you're not really judging the fight. If you're judging,”

you'd be silent. Like Eddie Bravo used to judge fights unofficially for the UFC in the early days. And what Eddie would do is he would write, he would have a peace paper and draw a line down the middle for each guy. And then he would have categories. Strikes, kicks landed, punches landed, take down submission attempts. He would mark all these different things. Like every time something would happen, he would mark it down. And then he would also go by who landed the most

damage. And he was really good at it. Like he was very accurate in terms of like I never

disagreed with him. I was like that makes sense. But if your intention is to score the fight, like you don't have to be entertaining and do the entertaining, I can do that. It's like I do come take for a game bread. And there's a fight fight of the night. And Jimmy Smith is going, who do you think won? I said, dude, this isn't the time to ask because I was entertained by the

“fight. We're doing our thing. Right. Right. Right. I go home and watch all that you know exactly who”

won. Right. It's such a close fight. I don't know, dude, especially wars, especially a crazy war. It's so hard to figure out who won. Some wars like like, let's you know, think of like what if Tyra and Joshua Van had made it to the end? That's tough one. As a tough one. I mean, Joshua Van definitely did more damage. 100% which is number one thing they are supposed to write. Judge it. So I would judge that in favor. Like we had a conversation about the

Gomez fight. Who was Gomez fighting? Pat Sabotini. So Pat Sabotini was fighting Gomez. And all Pat Sabotini did was clinch him and try to take him down. Took him down a couple of times. But when they were standing up, Gomez pat landed a few strikes, definitely. It wasn't like he was completely outclassing the feet, but Gomez landed more. So I'm like, okay, I know Pat spent the majority of the fight in control. The majority of like clinching the majority of fight working towards

“to take down. But it was unsuccessful for the most part. Gomez bounced back to up to his feet every”

time. Never took any damage on the ground. Never got close to being submitted. And then when they

stood up, Gomez was the one who was going after him, landing strikes. I don't know if it was enough to win though because it's like there wasn't a lot of damage. It wasn't like he hit pat and pat got rocked and pat went down and there was none of that. But Gomez was doing better in the stand-up, which when it comes to damage, that was the only damage of the fight. But the other thing you had to take considerations, like I love DCs, one of my favorites. But DC has an extensive

wrestling background. So he's usually going to, not that he means to, but because he has such an extensive wrestling background, if you listen to Kama Rausman, Henry Suhudo, most of them will score that fight for Hamza. Because of the wrestling involved, but if you talk to someone else who doesn't have a wrestling background or it's more of a striking background, most of them score it

for Strickland. So he always got a, I take it with a little bit of grain of salt. When those

guys have he wrestlers, if they're wrestling, but they're, they're, they're successful, like Taitan's were successful, they're like, that's a take down like, but he didn't do shit with it, though. There's also the Strickland factor. There's a lot of people that he rubbed the wrong way, and they don't want him to win because the wild shit that he says offstage. Listen, sometimes he goes too far, he said he went too far. He apologized for going too far.

But God damn, did he sell some tickets? I like what you said. They said, don't apologize. You're selling a fight. Yeah. That's my thing too. It's like, whoa, don't know, don't apologize. Don't apologize for any of that. Because on Monday, I was so excited again studio. I was so excited. I felt like, for first time in a long time, the UFC's back. I felt back, man. It's like really think the UFC's gone away. No, no, no. I'm not saying that. I'm saying as far

as, like, Connor Kabib, bad blood, big time. Couldn't wait. Like, I, dude, I was tech, they before I'm tech, dude, I can't fucking wait. It was like, I was so hyped for this fucking fight, dude. Yeah. It just felt like, you know, there's, there's Connor day Kabib days, those are over. But this one, the magnitude of it, and I usually can tell when a fight's going to be really big, because I'm always at baseball fields and football fields. And dad's will come, like, dude,

you think Strickland has a chance. I'm like, you watch fighting? I'm like, oh, shit. I was like, this can be huge, dude. This can be fucking big, dude. It was huge. And it was huge because of the way Sean sold it. 100%. Not just that Sean has a ton of fans for sure, you know, but it was the way

I love it, too. I love it. Sean, he makes things fun. It makes things fun. And then people get so mad, you know, some stuff he says, but it's like, course, there's a lane for that. Hate to tell you,

“there's a lane for that. And I, I think Strickland, you've been around Strickland. He's a good person.”

Y'all see how some crazy thoughts and stuff like that, which is fine. But remember, too, people go, you see, don't have stars. And then you get a kid like Strickland who's building his

name, so maybe the most watch fight, one of them, third most watch wanes of all time. So he's trying

to be a star. So you guys can play in there's no stars. And then when he's doing the damn thing, he has a hate not him. You know, so it's like, pick, pick your poison. Well, they're hate and buy the way he's doing it, right? That he's making things super personal. And, but this is what Connor did. I mean, this would kind of do it to be. Connor crossed the line many times. It could be. Buddy, lines here. Yeah, Connor was all the way over there. And there was no more energizing after that.

I mean, that was the brawl afterwards where it could be, you know, jumped in the crowd and fucked up till that end. That was my favorite. That's my favorite picture of all time. I need it frame of my fucking suit when it becomes literally flying off the fucking cage about the fucking, but remember before that fight in the fight, could be was all professional. He was all good. As soon as that motherfucker in, he's like, now it's time to get to work. Yeah, that is a crazy world world champion. Just got

done stopping Connor McGregor and he's leaping into the fucking crowd, just like his nickname. And super, he's the eagle. Yeah, the eagle. His talons are fucking out. I mean, you couldn't come up with a better nickname for that dude. You know how Dan Henderson has that flying punch that he landed on business. Yeah, like his logo, that should be kebabs logo. Hunter percent, with like rings on it, like a flying like a fucking animal. Dude, that was guy. I love him. Oh, you know, we appreciate him

while he's here, but maybe not enough. But with with, with Homsot too, I also think a couple of factors that went against him on Saturday night. He's been in big fights, but he hasn't been in this big of a fight defending the middleweight title. You have this wild boy talking so much shit. So I just, I don't think he's dealt with that kind of pressure at that level. And then also,

Homsot's always kind of had a cardio issue. Because remember, when I went to his camp, I called you.

My bro, I've never seen someone so fucking to, I'm talking vicious fucking, everybody up, destroying him. I was like, oh my god. So there's an issue with him, and I don't know what it is, where that's not translating inside the octaves. Well, I can tell you right now. First of all, first part of the issue is the weight cut. You guess I got 100% dude, he cut 22 kilos. Listen to me, he got 40 something pounds. They were making it so that he was going to fight

Eorye Brachat 205. Right. So he starts barking up and he's eating like a fucking animal and he's

“deadlifting and doing all kinds of crazy things too. 30 I think. He was above that. Yeah. He was”

somewhere north of 230. And so then he's 230, whatever. And so then he's got to drop down 85,

which is bananas. That's so hard to do. He never got fat. So what happens? Well, you're muscle

gets eaten away. Your body deteriorates. You can't recover. And he had a bad breakdown in the middle of the weight cut. I heard his horror was here as brother today. It was like, yes, we thought his body was going to shut down. Yeah. So they took an hour off weight cutting and then they went back. And he only had like 1.2 kilos to lose at that point. Which is what is that? Was that like five pounds? No. No, I mean two pounds. Two and a half pounds. Right. Two and a half.

What is it? It's two point two. Okay. So. So he was 230. A lot, though. If you're ready, dying. You got to lose two pounds of water. That's an nightmare. Two 16 ounce bottles of water. But when he was, let's say 230 or maybe 235, how many weeks out was that? Do we know? I don't know. Because when Strickland beat fluffy, they were like, hey, forget this year. You fight. You're fine at 85. It's a few months. It's a few months, but you know, when you have muscle and not fat,

it is a problem. It's a real problem. It's not the same problem. So if you get big like Strickland gets in between fights, like Strickland, there's a lot of videos of him training where he's got almost like a belly. He's heavy and he makes fun of himself. Yeah. That's a different fat. That's different to lose. You can lose that. You can lose that. That's not a problem to lose. When you're bulked up, your body has decided that now you're 230 pounds and you're still working out all the

time. So your body's using those muscles all the time. So if you want those muscles to shrink,

“they literally have to eat themselves. Yeah. So you have to fucking starve yourself. Or you do a”

radical dehydration, which brings you to the brink of death. That's what it seems like that's what he did.

but it's not like in the DVP fight and these other fights, not like he's going in their tenacious finishing guys. What did he do the win fight was just him in control. It was just him grappling him in control and no attack to finish. That's my issue with him. True. He just wanted

“to secure the win. I think it's here. What could be? It could be. And that also plays a factor when”

you deal with a guy like Sean who's so durable and has such great cardio and can take the fighting

to deep deep waters and always does. Yeah. He always, he's always going after you in the final round.

Like the final round with Izzy, when he's got his hands down, he's screaming at Izzy. Come on. He looks, but he gets better as that fight goes on. Yeah. And Izzy had noticeably faded by that final round. Part of that because of the beating that he took in the first. Right. I mean, he got dropped. Super close to stopped. Probably can cost in the first. You know, I mean, that fucking straight punch that he landed where he spun Izzy's head around and then hit

him with how many fucking left hands on a row? Yeah. 15, 20 left hands on a row. I mean, let's count them. Yeah. Let's watch that in count them because it's crazy. He just bang bang bang bang. If you think you're going to go and just fight normal after that, you're going to compromise. Probably you have a concussion. Yes. Just by the way, he went down his head spun around. It was a, it was a right hand, right? Was it a right hand? It was a right hand? It was a right hand. It's a right hand.

Hit your perfect right hand. Picked your perfect straight right. I mean, it was picked your perfect and you don't get a clean or better right hand. And then blast him with all those punches

“in the clinch. You're gone after that. You're, you're a shell of yourself. You're got, I think my”

thing with homes I do is after again, you could chalk it up to the wake up. That second round when

he doesn't land that taken on falls to his back. I'm like, oh, he's cooked. Dude, I think six months and he was fucking fighting. Your clothes fought body was shutting down and he realized that he went real hard in the first round, but doesn't have the gas tank. It said, let me coast. I could survive on the bottom here. But I need to catch my breath if I'm going to try to finish this guy. Might have been a strategy. And he got better that third, fourth, fifth round. Right, because the

strategy might have been listen. If I'm on my back, no big, like he tries for it, take down. Can't get it. He realized, like, oh, Jesus, I'm not going to be able to fight standing up like this for five minutes after that first round, because his body almost shut down 24 hours ago. 24 hours ago, it is the dumbest fucking thing we do in the sport where we allow these people to pretend that they weigh a certain way. You pretend you, you, you, oh, it's a 185 pound fight. The

fuck it is. He is one of those guys. A hundred percent. And Strickland is actually a bigger guy than him. Strickland's a big boy. Strickland and that neither in the cage is a bigger dude. Well, he definitely looked healthier. Right. And I think part of that, you could attribute it to the fact that Homsod is killing himself. Well, what Homsod say to Dana, as soon as John by the cage goes, I'm done fighting.

I'm going to do a fly. But apparently now, always talking about his rematch on. Yeah, let's back on.

So my, you know, so what he's got to do. Love to his. He has got to limit his calorie intake. And he's got to literally burn the muscle off. He can't just keep dehydrating himself like that. So you would have to talk to someone who's in expert at that. But my friend Cam Haines, when he runs these ultra marathons, what he does is he gets himself down like 160 pounds. And the way he does it is he just limits his fucking calories and keeps working out the exact same way.

And he looks terrible when he does that. Yeah. He looks so tired all the time. But it's just sheer willpower. Get some down to that weight. But that is slow running for days. Correct. That's a different thing. We can't do that. Right. What he's doing is exploding and moving quickly. And my personal opinion

“is you have to be biologically healthy to do that. You have to be a healthy person. You can't just”

be big. Right. And you're not healthy if you almost died a day ago. Correct. Because that's really what's going on. And we think these, oh, these guys can recover. But how much they recover? Well, they fucking for sure don't recover 100%. Not 100%. Not 100%. That's why I make side format 205. Like a lot of people like, oh, I don't like them. Like, if it's the weight is an issue at 205. If he's a 100% hams, you might be a little undersized, but 100% hams could be a lot better than

the 70% that's great. Strickly they're going to do it. He's going to do it. He ain't fucking make the way the first time. Oh, 100%. He's going to talk mad shit. It'll be fun. He's a fucking coward. I beat him with one arm. It's going to get crazy. You got to fight him at midaway, but he's got to go to some expert in losing weight. Oh, no. I'm not saying Strickland hams at 205. That's, no, no. Strickland. No, Strickland is going to, no, no. Strickland is going to stay at

355 in dominant. No, hams, he's going to do that rematch, and then that's it. He's a 205er. Well,

perform. But he has to figure that out. He's got to stop lifting weights, right? So whatever he was

“doing that got him up to 230 pounds, whatever he was, we're guessing, right? That's why I'd heard”

that he was north of 230. Whatever he was doing, he's got to not do that, and he's got to do mad cardio, just just cardio, like working out, like wrestling, hitting the bag, hitting pads, and cardio. I'm a big proponent of, do, do your sport, get your cardio from your sport. Like I see to across the board, like I get a little, a little hesitant when I saw all these videos of hams out, you know, hitting the tie with the hammer and doing all these runs, like yeah, but I'd

rather you get your cardio from actually wrestling against top level guys and fucking get after it dude. Because what's stricling, dude? Do you see stricling doing all this heart rate monitor? No, why is this cardio so good? Because he fucking spars like a madman all the time. So the stricling you see in that training camp is the exact same motherfucker you see in the octagon. There's no issues. Meanwhile, you get these guys, you know, run their hill sprints and do it. I'd rather you get your cardio

in your actual sport. I see that the lower level too, with kids, I coach football baseball, these dads, like I don't get it, man. I'm doing the foot ladder drill in my son five days a week. Can't catch football, like because because they're, we're not trying to see you as the best foot ladder, fucking who can do it the fastest. We're catching football. Do you think how

“it's football? If you want to get better football, a hundred percent. But do you think that some”

of that stuff has a purpose? Yes, but not close to the fight. Interesting. Because usually we would do is out, like, let's say you do have a week camp. Before the camp starts, we're doing a lot of that stuff. And then once we get a camp, the focus was the cardio was getting it in your training. You know, who agrees with you, Al Jermaine Sterling. Al Jermaine talked about this. Pretty good. Pretty fucking good. How good did he look against the law? Do best back control in the game.

So, and I don't, why is he so underrated? I don't get it. Why doesn't he get his dues? Pure yarn. It's fucking crazy. It's the wick. The victory where he had an injury from an illegal shot. Yeah, people hated on him from then on out. Think they'll get his against evil. I know,

he's amazing. That was a fucking split decision. Some people thought he won? Yeah. Yeah, he could have

easily won. That motherfucker so good. Yeah, Al Jermaine's the man. Yeah. Um, but he said that Marab does the same thing. Now, who the fuck has better cardio than Marab? I would say nobody, nobody alive ever in any sport I've ever seen. Maybe like guy that broke the fucking whatever's four minute miles. Um, but as far as what? Yeah, but he didn't get it taken down. Exactly. Punching the face. You know, should just go to Marab's camp. Like what are you doing? He said,

wrestling. I'm fucking wrestling. He does run. He does run. He does lift some weights every now and then, but he don't do any of that crazy garage stuff. And one of the guys that spoke out against the garage stuff was Cub Swanson. I shouldn't say spoke out against it. But what he did say was that when he did that, because he did some of the training lab stuff, he said he was too broken down. He said he was overtrained. And he said he was just too tired when he was going into, like,

fight camp. Yeah. Like, he's, he's doing all the other stuff, too. You're, you're still boxing. You're still boxing. You're still boxing. You're still wrestling. And he said he did badly in those fights, which is interesting, because, you know, the Marab and Renovitch approach was very different with B. J. Penn. And that was the best B. J. Penn ever. The best B. J. Penn ever, but they literally did no fight training. What they did is all plyometrics. And it's different from

the stuff the training lab stuff is doing. Because the training lab stuff, he's doing bicycle work,

“and I was different because that's what Sam Calvita came from. Came from cycling background.”

What Marab was having him do was all plyometrics stuff and just build this fucking insane machine. He's like, B. J. You already know how to fight. Fact, you're not going to get better at fighting in eight weeks, right? Fact. But what we can do is give you an unstoppable gas tank. And one of

things that always fucked B. J. up earlier in his career is that he wasn't, when he was training

himself or when he had, you know, wasn't Kim and his brother. Yeah, wasn't the most different things. Yeah. He was phenomenally talented and freak freak. And one of the things, one of the world, the Mundiales, at three years in to jujitsu. That's what he does that. That's like he's almost that bad example. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yeah. Right. But what he, the problem with really talented people, and I'm sure you'd probably agree with me, they tend to not work as hard.

Yeah. Right. Like Sean, although he's a world champion, he's not a guy where you see like, oh my god, he is so talented. Like what he does is like no one can move that way. No one can do what he does. Like, you know, there's certain guys that are like nice stuff is hard work. Hard work. So the guys that are super talented, it comes a little easier for them. And sometimes they have

to getting pressed. So when they have to do this drill where you're rotating in new sparring partners

“over and you're exhausted. And when you're doing that hell, they don't like that. No. So some”

guys avoid that shit. They just want to be tuning guys up. Yeah. And so those guys, when they're fighting a George St. Pierre or someone of a commensurate skill level, they might fade. Yep. Because that guy got there through a different path. I mean, George, all of these phenomenal athlete, one of the best wrestlers in MMA ever, and didn't even come from a wrestling background. I mean, George is one of the all-time greats. There's not like one thing that George would do that would

make you think like that guy's a freak athlete. There's never been anybody like him like that.

No, but far from it to your point far, because I train with George forever. And when we did, they would have to do some stuff like I did in the NFL like sprints and vertical and the agility drills like nothing. Nothing crazy. No, but BJ was BJ was crazy. BJ could do stuff where you're like, how the fuck can you do that? BJ could jump out of a pool and land easy. You know, BJ can he has insane flexibility. Like the way Moses likes his balance is nuts.

There's a video of someone trying to take him down and they have a single and they are driving across the game. And he's on one hopping with zero fear of being taken down. Like, but to your point, like the BJ's that talented, John's another one. Yep. Where it's like. Right, exact, exact. Perfect. Serve fucking talented. So fucking talented. And then the difference being like,

John always figured out a way to win. And John, if you had a bad camp for one fight,

he would come back in the next fight and really fucking put it to somebody. Right. Like the gust of some fight. First fight, so we gust of sin. He doesn't train at all. I talked to Craig Jackson. He's like, he barely showed up at all. Barely showed up in the gym. And then has that fight. And pulls it out in the final two rounds. Crazy. It gets taken down for the first time. We see him get taken down by gust of sin. Like, oh, my God, gust of sin might be the man

and John pulls it out. So the second fight comes around and John trains hard and John fucks him up. I mean, fucks him up in a way. Like, this is what would have happened if I tried. Yeah. If I prepared the way you prepared, this is what you're going to do. You get a fucking

“beating. You know? And this is the dance of who's the greatest of all time. And that's why”

the argument in most people's eyes is that John is the greatest of all time. Because John was all those things. Super talented. And when push came to shove and he had to get back into work and get here. He would do it. And he would pull it off against DC. He would pull it off. The steep A fight was, I think that was not steep A. That was, no, that's when you were like, when you talk about his resume. Like, all right, you know, steep A is the steep A that, you know,

ran through the heavyweight division. The steep A that knocked out Alster over him, the beat for Breeze over doing for the title, beat Francis, when Francis was just crushing everybody. And I think that took a lot out of his chin that Francis fight. I really wanted to change them forever. Because DC knocks him out right after that. And, you know, wasn't the biggest punch in the world. No, it was a big punch. But it, I mean, he had taken bombs from Francis. Yeah, back to John being

the greatest of all time. It's like, when you look at his resume, it's just like, it's phenomenal. Wow, phenomenal. It's the youngest ever UFC champion. Crazy. But as far as like,

“I didn't Josh Barnett, the Josh Barnett winner earlier. No, I think John's the youngest.”

John's the youngest. And Josh Barnett was the youngest. And Josh Devans second now. Right. So Josh, Josh Barnett won the heavyweight title of what 24. Yeah. And those boys were, well, it didn't strip him for steroids when everyone was doing steroids. That is cool. It's like, he doesn't be, you guys get busted, you're like, oh, come on. Like, pitch you a test of everybody. You just don't like Josh, the way to get him out. I love Josh. The way to get him out. But back to John, it's like,

you look at his resume. Grace never do it. Yeah. Be the very best in murderers. Oh,

murderers. Oh, yeah. Now, you know, it's not, not him comparable to today's light heavyweight heavyweight. But then you don't think so. No. Well, let's close. When Alex was the light heavyweight champion, it's certainly comparable. Alex is light heavyweight champion. The Alex that beat Magomedov. The Alex that knocked out Yuri Prowasca. The Alex that starches everybody that fucked up Jamal Hill, like that Alex Pereira and John Jones and his prime would have been insane.

That would have been insane. Oh, man. Tough to beat the wrestling of John. Like John's wrestling was on a totally different level. She's IQ is IQ. He's IQ. He's tough around. We're going to do this

got all of his neck and like, I'll take that. But do, if you, if you, if you go back and look at

John, it is, my fighting years, too. You look at that light heavyweight division. One through fucking 15. Good luck. That's especially heavyweight. True. But fucking luck. But it light heavyweight. Okay. So not a lot of those guys are ranked in top 10. How do you think Yuri, well, what's think of Alex? How do you think Alex would have done against Gustavson? Very tough, I for him. You think so? Gustavson in his prime? Yeah. You think so? Yeah. And do you think that based on the

“to share a fight? Because he pieced up glory. Remember that fight? Yeah. Well, that was a video game”

combination. Really knocked out. Alex is one of those guys. Similar to DC, when John just rained as champ, it's like if if Alex was just born at a different time, maybe five years before five years after, he's our John Jones. He was so fucking talented. Huge. 6, 6, 6, 7, great wrestling. Great, but world class boxing. Good at everything. Great. Just hard in the division with the go. You're fucked. Yeah, you got fucked. Your mom and dad just have us decide to have sex.

Same time, John and his parents did. Look at what happened with Ilya Tuporia. Think about the guys that he's fighting. Think about Max Holloway. Think about Charles Olivera. Think about

Alexander Volkudowski. And he is blast all of them into orbit. All three of them. First guy

ever to stop Max. It's like, if you're in that guy's division, what are you going to do? Especially 45. I don't know what it's going to be like at 55. Obviously the Olivera fight was a one punch knockout, but that was such a bad knockout. Crazy knockout. But when you see him and Justin next to each other like, whoa Justin is quite a bit bigger. He's quite a bit bigger. That's a tough fight. It's a different fight than Olivera. It's different. But fuck, then you see what Olivera was

able to do to Max. You're like, good Lord. Like Olivera is a fucking beast. He's a phenomenal.

“And it couldn't do none of that to Ilya. Yeah. The only thing with all that is like the 55 division,”

everyone's no one's in the front. Like Charles is in his prime when going to beat him. Justin's

definitely not in his prime. Max is in his prime. They're all good. They're fucking good. But not

prime prime. Right. And the issue is his Ilya's just getting to his prime. Get you just getting to the prime. And already one of the greatest of all time. It's a fucking problem. Yeah. He's so smart and so disciplined and so like completely focused and kind of then graded everything. Graded everything. And the crazy thing is didn't even start as a striker. Crazy. Started as a grappler. Now at this toughest matchup is armoured through again. That's the motherfucking fight. 100%. But that's what

that's what's going to say with with homicide. He's not active. I know I'm jumping around a bit. But with homicide, I think one of his issues with whatever's going on inside that knock on weight cut 100%. Clearly, there seems to be a mental block when it comes to finishing fights because we're about gasing out R-R-A-F, take the game paid out of fucking throughkins book. Just wrestle all throughkin. I think he's wrestled like eight times as fucking. I know just fucking dudes up

making all the money. It makes six fingers every time he fucks somebody up. But he's active. He's staying active, staying cheating. Computing. And the O-C's going, yeah, go ahead and do it. So for homicide dude, because he fights once a fucking year, which is not good dude. So it's like stay active over there, stay active like like armistrookins doing. Keep your weight down. Yeah, I don't know if he's interested in doing that. I signed with him. Yeah, but what was the fight that they signed that

“he was going to wrestle somebody? Who was it? Do you remember? I think they want to toss some”

like an Olympian, which is, that's where it gets nicey. Yeah, here's my fear. There was a recent event that was a very weird event. I don't know who did it, but it was kicks to the leg, punches to the body and jujitsu. Have you seen that? No, get the fucking of my face. It was weird. Yeah, so Glyce and T-Bow was fighting. I apologize, I don't remember who he was fighting. And he takes this guy down and the guy catches, you know, is trying to avoid the take down. He catches his knee in a weird way and it blows out.

So that could happen to fucking anybody. Wrestling is a little safer though. I don't know about that. This was in the wrestling exchange that he took him down. Yeah, but those guys aren't exactly like high level wrestlers. True. You know, like you're like the RAF has it's top tears. Oh, yeah, no doubt. So good. No doubt. It's so good. wrestlers blow their knees out all the time. True. It's just a part of the craziness of explosive movement and a guy is coming after you.

It's kind of what you sign up for. So for some side, it's like, do we can't fight fucking once a year and they have weight issues. And clearly there seems we have mental block and you get finishes because your cardio. Let's do RAF. Let's get this rolling, keep your weight down, keep you active. Also, keep you in the limelight. Like if the arm end has blown the fuck up,

translates to. It's a great general public. That's great. Dorks like us. Dorks like us. And point. We are some rotten is nuts. He beat Georgia's wife. He's a good point. Lance Palmer, the wrestling that he tech followed, which is nuts, nuts, your eye favor. Yeah, through over the fucking crazy. Why do you do that? What if he both got hurt? What if you hurt? You're a bit of a main head. What is a psychopath? Yeah. He's a full on psychopath. I mean,

he's rich. Do he's rich? Literally wealthy. Do you see him on that stream? They go, so like if you

want to buy a car like 500,000 car, what do you do? I just call my dad. Yeah, it's like a billion

air. He's got tons of money, but he's not lazy at all. No, he's like he flies in the face of this longstanding belief that we all had that if you come from rich family, you can't be a great fighter. He's Batman. He doesn't matter if he can you come from the ghetto. He's going to fuck you up. He does not give a fuck. Like you, you some fucking dudes like I'm from the favelas. You know, I do. Like good luck, cool man. Good luck with that fucking Armenian psychopath. Yeah, he's pulling up in a

Maybach. Yeah, he can be happy off. He pulls into LA. I watch his YouTube videos. He shows him training and all the different stuff he does. He, he, when he lands in LA, he goes to meet it to a exotic rental

car place and rents a Lamborghini and drives it to the training lap. Please, not the way it's

wants to work, but he rolls it off. Bro, good luck with that guy. Good luck with that guy. Go ahead, make fun of him for real. Like a Greek god. Yeah. Can wrestle like a fucking elite top to your wrestler. And he can strike. And he can submit you. Good luck. And he's angry because he, he's denied a shot of the title because he heard his back when he was getting ready to fight. Which is the best thing to ever happen to you? You think so? Yeah, because look how much because he, we were fucking

darts and we knew who he was, but the general, like you're such an online, no one, his profile's so big now.

“I think it's just with dorks. I mean, I think, but the dorks, the equal sponsorship money. Well,”

here's the deal. There's only one compelling fight. Look at the fucking build on this cat. That is not a guy that grew up with a billionaire dad who could just go buy a fucking Lamborghini with his credit card if he wants to. He's Bruce Wayne, but his pants are still alive. It's none. There's no reason to be upset. Well, tell you what, our minions. Look at the fuck shut the fuck up, man. Just shut up. Great body. That's ridiculous. Great body. That makes me want to just

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freedom 250. And for an Donald Trump he's the only American that gets the belt. It's bigger, it's beyond just MMA you'll see. Yeah, it mericalenize fuck off. This is... Imagine the headlines do. Yes. And he beats that guy and his prime who's knocking everyone to the shadow realm says to Charles Olavera I'm sorry it has to be you. It has a celebration party the night before the fight had a party. Had a party. Was drinking wine and shit? No, he wasn't. Was he? Yeah,

“pretty sure he's drinking wine. No, I think it was wine. No, I'm pretty sure he's drinking wine. Imagine”

that fucking psycho band. You get starch and he's got that beautiful fucking Spanish accent. Yeah,

rooting for Justin. I love both of them. But just for the share of fact, again, I like chaos

and that in front of the weird elites watching the fight, you don't know what the fuck's going on. It's gonna be great if Justin pulls it off. Yeah, if Justin pulls it off it would be one of the greatest upsets of all time. One of the greatest victories of all time. And if he does just retire, to pour you a plan to celebrate before the gagey clash at the White House. Of course, you're gonna celebrate whatever he's doing. That's his move. Whatever he does doing it again. Massive

celebration dinner the night before his lightweight belt. We're gonna celebrate before the fight. Actually, we have everything organized. My team has already taken care of that. That's a mine fucking a half. When you're in your hotel room, you know, and you just fucking scrolling on

Instagram, thinking about 24 hours from now, you're gonna be fighting. What's this asshole doing?

“Oh, he's fucking standing on top of a table dance. That's how sure he's gonna be the fuck out of you.”

He's eating spaghetti and fucking doing a salsa dance. What the fuck are you talking about, man? Yeah, and did you see when all the fighters at the White House? Trump's like, I thought you liked this guy. Yeah, you're like, oh, fuck. Why would you give your friend as toughest test? Yeah. Yeah. Well, for Gate G, that's the last fight. I mean, if this is really going to be his last fight, that is the last fight. And it's smart. It's smart. Because that that patty fight is, you know,

entertaining fight for the casuals. As far as technical-wise, it was so sloppy, man. It was just so sloppy. But Justin told me that that's what he wanted to do. What he should do. He just wanted to just go fuck you and just come at him and just throw caution to the win and just almost fight like he did like back in the PFL days. World Series of fighting. That's what it was. Right. Yeah, that's right. That's exactly what he should be doing. And that's exactly what he should have done and then

for patty. It was a sloppy fight, but he got the job done. But you can tell like, and it's all good. This isn't a knock on Justin. All the gears, all the wars. One of the greatest careers we've ever seen, it catches up with you. 100% it has to. And now's here's Elliott Tuporia. But again, I bet Justin wouldn't have it any other way. You have an opportunity to pull off one of the biggest. It's not the biggest ups that we've ever seen. And Trevor Whitman,

“fucking White House. Justin has an awesome series of the art of violence, I think it's called.”

It's on YouTube. And it's all talking about him preparing. It's all videos of him training and Trevor Whitman's in it. And Trevor was saying, we love being the underdog. We love it. And he talked about being the underdog with Rose Nama Unis when she beat. You want to know Jay Jack, sure, when she beat young wailee, same thing. Like that they love being the underdog. No situations. Like stopping wailee was nuts. Crazy. You know that she was the underdog head kickcer.

Yep. Crazy. And that's the little different. But I hear it. It is different. But it is, it's similar in ways. The young wailee is. Because generally we just fucking everybody's Gary. There's no one like her. The physicality of her at straw weight. She was a fucking monster. Like her training was bananas. I'd watch her training go good Lord. Who's going to be it? She's like shoulders and shit. But the way she trained, she trains like a dude. Like an angry dude.

You know what I mean? Like women haircut to show. This is not a knock on the way women train. I'm not saying that. I'm saying like the ferocity was like she's filled with testosterone.

“I hear it. I hear it. I hear it. I hear it. I hear it. Like she's trying to kill somebody. How about you?”

She might be. It might be natural. It might have slipped up into our noodles. Do you see that one fighter who got busted? And she goes, oh man. Yeah. I took my husband's vitamins and just have these steroids. Yeah. My husband. She threw her husband into the bus for taking steroids. She fucked up. Is he an active fighter? I don't, I don't think so. Is he, no, he's probably just some meat and he's like, yeah, I guess it's the whole person. Yeah,

me too. Because if he's an active fighter, he'd be like, what the fuck? Now we're both fucked. Yeah. Yeah. Say somebody gave you the wrong thing. Yeah. But he's back to Wally and Rose. The difference with that is Rose was still pretty in a prime there. Yeah. 100%. That's that's a good point. That's a good point. Real good point. Justin's not in his prime, but damn he didn't look like he lost a step in the patty. Pimplified. He looked like he just was just being an animal. And

Pimplified's fucking good man. You see what Pimplified did to Bobby Green and granted Bobby Green's not quite at the same level. Although he looked fucking sensational. He looked good. It gets Jeremy Steve's keeps doing the damn thing. But also that style is so fun. So I can shit point in that human man. So fun. So fun. How about at the end of the fight when I'm interviewing him? He's like,

come walk with me and he takes me over to Danny's job day. Yeah. Like that bonus. They've never

come on this. He's just talking about he's one of the most exciting fighters. He's never done it. He's done it. I'm like, everybody knows that. He's like, why didn't get my fucking bonus? Yeah. But I'm kind of with Dana on the bonus. Dana goes, well, we do it. Also, your strength of

What's up with him? That was fine. He should've got a ball for that one. That's what he was talking about. Well, but for this last fight, for his last fight, you know, he's fought Jeremy Steven's

“great fighter, but you know, compared to like the other guys on the card. Yeah. That's why”

Dana's like, well, well, he was complaining about not getting a bonus in his last fight. That's why he wanted a bonus in this fight. He was saying this is because I even asked him, I go, you didn't get a bonus for his Zero Hoover fight. He got 25k, right? Because I didn't think he finished him. If you get a finish no matter what, but he wanted the big boy. The big boy boasts. Yeah, I hate all of it. I hate people that have to ask for bonuses. It's, you know, look,

the money is there, right? We know the money's there. Look, this is a $7 billion deal. I'm not a

businessman. I'll say that right now, if I was running the UFC, the stockholders, they would fucking kick me out. Yeah, shareholders. We don't have to be fired. Yeah. I wouldn't, you know, you don't like a fiction. Yeah, you don't want me running. No, the UFC, because I treated like I was a communist. I'm also, yeah, me too. I'm also a little more careful when I talk about two, because I don't know their books. I don't know how to run a giant company like that.

I assume with $7.7 billion, I'm like, man, I feel like we could give some over here. But then if you talk to somebody in the other, like, oh, do you? Well, look at this motherfucker. I'm like, oh, my bad. Okay, now this is not a knock on Oreo manual, but it was reported that

he made $67 million last year. It worked very hard. I'm sure he did. But that was from the UFC

for TKO, right? That was his payout. And he, he's got a bunch of other things going on. He's a very

“successful guy. And you see the reason they sold for $7.7 billion. He's a big part, right?”

One hundred percent. And the big, and also, he took the big chance in purchasing it for $2 billion, which was a big deal. You know, the whole thing is like, this is why you're in business. I think fighting is different than any other business. And the reason why I say this, and you could speak to this more than anybody, you are putting your health on the line in a way that is not required in any other business other than maybe football and boxing and kickboxing. If you're putting

your health on the line in a way that's different than any other business, you are the only thing that people are tuning in for. Without the fighters, there is no UFC. It doesn't exist. It is the entire product. The, the thing you're selling is entirely fighters. And it's fighters that operate for a short window of their prime. They have 10 years or whatever they have. And, and when they get out, you know, we've all talked about guys that are mumbling now. You can't understand what

the fuck they say. You see, like, ticks that they have. And guys who have neurological problems, memory problems, it's real. So I don't think we should think of it like any other business. Because the entire business model is these guys bodies and the consequence is their health and it's for the rest of their life. And so if you're doing something that is generating a

“significant amount of money for a very short amount of time, I think you should get a lot of”

money for that. If you're one of those people, the amount of money that is left over for the other people, the people that are making the money that put the money in, they should still get a lot of money, which is why they did it in the first place. But I don't think the balance is correct. Now, I'm biased, right? Because again, I'm not a business man, but I have a deep empathy for people who put themselves in front of harm and try to chase that glory for our entertainment,

for the sport that we love. And I think there should be compensated more. Yeah, I don't think you're, I mean, obviously we're biased because we love fighters and I was a fire. It's not even about being biased. It's just fairness. It's fairness in the market place. And well, the thing is it's such a dicey thing. I know people hate when I bring up fighter talk, and I get sick of it too because I don't know what you can really do. Because I, I simple.

Well, I go, is it though? Because here's a thing. People will go, okay, they've made 7.7 billion,

here's, here's their overhead. We don't know what's going on. But it's like, if the UFC's the only, the only sports or combat sports promotion to ever make money, ever, right? Nobody else has ever done it better or made profit. So my thing is like, is this, is this what it, is this just what it is? I know some people like you're such an idiot. They have this leftover money. I hear ya. But I'm saying is there's PFL, Bellator, Affliction, World Series, we can go through the list.

One championship. None of them are around, someone, like, they're last, like, no one's ever be able to sustain it. So alms, and I'm not saying we don't deserve more fucking money. All I'm saying

people are young right now. You're a fucking idiot. I'm just saying it's fighting different where, hey, man, that's just, it's not the NFL. It's not the NBA. It's not MLB. In order for us to continue this rise, this is what it is. It's 18% to the fighters. I, I don't know Joe.

“Okay. Well, that's what I'm saying. I don't, good points. First of all, let's just give the UFC”

its flowers because without, I love the kids say that these days. Give flowers. Yeah. Good, good saying. Have you dark started using buns yet? Oh, yeah, they use that. Yeah, I just found, my, my, my, my, my, my, my bad. Buns is bad. Yeah, I didn't know, I got to try my sons. I

think he's a bunch. I'm like, is that good? What's that? Yeah, no, but buns are always like, cute buns. Yeah,

no, but later, he got that. Yeah, we're young Jamie. Yeah, you want Jamie. But what were you saying? The UFC is the greatest organization in combat sports history period. There's nothing even close. The product is so much better than any boxing promotion. And my friends that I brought to the UFC that are boxing fans, like my friend Josh Dubin, he was like the fucking productions incredible. He goes it's so much more exciting than any boxing event. It's so much better.

That is 100% true. They've also been a consolidated organization forever, right? I mean,

“it was a different owner. It was Bob Miro, it's back in the day in 97 when I worked for them. But from”

20, 21 on. So for the last 25 fucking years, it's been Zufa, right? They sold Zufa, now Zufa, sold Zufa. Sorry, manual on TKO. But the same people were running it, right? It's still Dana White. It's still all these people behind the scenes. It's another conversation. Yeah, it's still Annec. It's still me and DC and Michael Bisping and all the other people that are doing commentary, and you know, Dominic Cruz and Paul Felder and Laura Sanco, it's still the teams the same.

The team behind the scenes is the same. It's so polished. There's never a problem. When I show up at the UFC,

everything's so smooth. You go and say hi to everybody. I show my badge to the fucking security people. I say hi. We sit down. Everything is smooth. We've got a hit in five minutes. Okay, great. Everybody's there. The sound guys on point. Well, everything is on point. It's so easy. Even close. And it's like the production and the truck is so fucking good. They always have the right angle. Giro Donald's always on the case when it comes to getting the right angle for a

submission or getting the right angle for replays. If I ask for something, I got it right away. Like I'll push the button. You know, let me hear his corner. Yeah. It's boom. They're right on it. It's they're the best. High level. They're the best. And you notice that when you see other promotions. It's like other promotions. The camera works on it's good. It's like the machine

is so good. And it's become like the NFL. Like I know the XFL exists. I've never even

heard of a game. I've never even heard of a game. Anyone playing. No one's ever brought up a game that's going to happen. Never. I know what's the thing. Never. And the problem with casuals, that's the same with the PFL. Even though the PFL's fucking got really good fighters. There's really good fighters in the PFL. Far cry from the OCP. Some of them are really good, man. That cat that just knocked out Henna Ferrar, the guy who's the the heavyweight that is Fedor's protege.

Oh, yeah. The Russian cat. Bro. He's good. Bro. He's good. And the UFC's fucking shallow ass heavyweight division. We could use that. We could use him. I'd like to show up. But that dude's hotel room and a fucking briefcase for him. Like, let's go, dog. But yeah, my thing with the UFC. And when you talk about the staff and you got to give them their flowers. The only one that's figured it out, they're the best. By the first organization by far. And they deserved to be rich because of that.

They've made it incredible product. But so are the fighters, though. I think your product is entirely dependent on the fighters. Now, this is my position with my comedy club. So my comedy club pays different than every comedy club. The fighter, the fighters. The comedians make most of the money

“when it comes to the door. That's how it should. But let me ask you this, Joe. And if it's too much,”

like, dude, get the fucking it. But is your is the mothership compared to the comedy store, the improv, are you guys crashing them? It's doing really well. I mean, the comedy store is always going to be one of the great clubs on earth. It's a legendary club. It's dependent upon who's there. The difference between the way the comedy store does it and the way we do it is that we bring in national headlines for the weekend. Like, the weekend, it might be David Tell. Yeah. This week is Tony Rock.

Is there another club that does that? Is there, because you've got some little difference, you have your regulars. Is there another club that does that? Sure. Most clubs do that for the weekends, but the thing is, they don't have the same lineup for the weekdays. Yeah. So the weekdays we've got Shane Gillis, Ron White, Tony Hingecliffe, Kill Tony's there every Monday. It's a different stuff. Does anybody doing that? Because the comics have to be, well, my whole point is what

have you run your business? It's like, is the model where you're doing it, where the comics are

Rogan out of it and you, in some dude one started club and did the same thing, is that going to be

“profitable? No. You have to have the talent, but that's the difference. It's like the thing with”

the PFL versus the UFC. You have to have the talent, right? And the reason why our club works is because everything, it's pure luck. It's pure luck. Everything had a lineup. We had to hit every green light. It had a COVID that had to happen. The comedy store had to get shut down. All the employees from the comedy store had to get fired. We had to not be able to do stand up and LA. I had to be worried about my family and the crime and the riots. And then the COVID shit, where everyone

is wearing a mask, I was like, this has been an anus and then moving to Texas or just visiting Texas. Would you like to give yourself credit? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were also the guy that had the idea to do it. But the trigger, you didn't have to do that. That is true. But it's all a lot of luck because it had to happen at the right time. It had to happen at a time in my career where I had a lot of money. So it happened to happen when the Spotify deal took place. So I had all this money.

“Yeah. And then it all had a lineup where I was already the number one podcast in the world. So”

I could easily get people become of YouTube. I understand, but they had a lot of humble. No, no, it's on beaches being honest. Like, it had a line up. So I couldn't have done it on my own. I had to come here and Ron White was already here. So Ron White's a big reason. One of the clubs. I mean, he was one of the main reasons why I moved. No, I know. Because I was like, yeah,

even if I never do comedy again and I was really wondering if we're ever going to do comedy again,

bronze here. I'll hang out with Ron. We'll have laughs. Yeah. So when I moved here and then all sudden Tony moved here and then Tom Segar moved here and Brian Simpson moved here and the song moved here and brought and Derek posted moved here and it was like, Oh, shit. We got something cooking and then Tim Dylan came here and then it was like, Oh, my god. And then Dr. Trustle moved here. I was like, holy shit. So they're moving because you're here. I understand, but they had the mother ship.

Right. But they had to do it before the mother ship even opened. Take it, right? They all moved before the mother ship opened. Shane moved after the mother ship opened. But they all came in early and trusted me. Yes. And so I was like, OK, these guys, I owe them what they took a chance with their future. I have to throw everything into this and all together we'll do it. Yeah. So it's our club. It's really our club. But it had to happen in a way where I had this disposable money.

I had disposable income where I could do it and wouldn't hurt me. Yeah. And then I could set it up in a way where the comics make so much money. So that way, you encourage people to stay. So there's so many people that are there all week long during the week. They don't have to go do shows or other places. They can make money at their home club. You're doing it right. I guess my example, like, you know, UFC do that because because my example for you, it's like, can these other

comic clubs do that and sustain and grow and have money? They couldn't New York and they might be able to do it in LA. So I don't think you could do it in LA right now because the store has

opened and the store is always going to be the premier club in the world. It's always legendary.

Yeah. So it's on Sunset's trip. Even though LA is falling apart, it's still the legendary destination for stand-up comedy. It's one of the main reasons why I was excited to move to LA. It was Mecca. It was when I was a beginner and an open micro in 1988. They would talk about the store like it was Mecca. Like you had to go to the store. They still do though. I don't think I've ever gone away. Of course, it's, you know, the store comes in and goes in cycles. Like it always does.

It always goes in cycles depending on who's in town, who's there. It's a very, it's all comedy clubs are dependent upon what talent is in town during the weekdays. And if you don't bring in town on the weekends, that's the difference. Like the store doesn't bring in headliners for the weekend, like the way our club does. I told Scott, Scott Shore. I was like, I think, no, that was Peter.

“Sorry. I told Peter Shore. I was like, I think you, you guys should do that. I think you should like,”

but do they have a game? Because you can still go on a Saturday night and you'll see, you know, yes, big name. He will. Big names. But you could have those people there still as well. Like they could also do shows with that person. And you have two other rooms. And that's what you guys have the OR and you have the belly room. You have three rooms in one location. Like you could still have the OR filled with top talent. Because they don't give a fuck where they're performing in the big stage of

little stage. And in fact, most of us prefer the little stage. The OR is an amazing room. But the thing is it's like, you have to have enough talent in town. And a lot of people moved out of LA. A lot of people turned out. Joey Diaz moved out of LA. Like a lot of people moved out of it. Theo moved out a lot of

people moved out. So the problem is you would have to have enough talent there. And then you would

have to have talent that was there all the time. Like us. Like we're at the club all the time. I think and going back to if the UFC could do this. Like they're profiting so much now,

idea though? You want to hear my idea? Yeah. And you might be like, you're out of your fucking mind. Okay. And it's, and again, I'm not, I can't tie you up nothing. You cut my fucking wrist right now. Bubble Riley spills out. I fucking bleed. That's a made my entire career. Yeah. When that paramount deal was announced. And you know, I'm a wild boy. When that paramount deal was announced.

What I would have done is in this of the issue, why things will never change. I would have

talked to all the managers, all the fighters and said, we're not fighting another fight. They decided a huge deal. Some points have a million. If you guys want to get your equal share, nobody's agreeing to a fight bout to a fight card. Unless we get, I don't know, someone's going to figure out 30%. So it's 18%. Now, if we go up 30%, which they're still going to have profit, if, if they agree to that, then we'll fight. But they, there's no deal if we don't fight.

Right. Those days are over now. So you missed the mark. Now, you're going to say, yeah, but they can get other guys to do that. And I'm saying across the board, we all agree, as fighters, we're not going to fucking move. Oh, inch. If you can get the fighters to agree to that,

it would work. That's the problem. It'll never happen. Not an a million years. That was my

idea. And then, here's the other thought that they, you know, Dana White has this thought about fighters that when they get paid too much and they get rich, their careers end earlier. But that's the other. He's right. Yeah. And he's right. Well, there's arm and Bruce Wayne. But for the most part, he's right. Go through anybody's career. Right. He's kind of right. But it doesn't cut it. That's common. That's on them. Yeah, agree. That's on them. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. I mean, he's right, but you

can't protect them for unless you have a bonus that you're going to pay them out when they retire. And they're not going to do that. But the other thing I think Sean Shelby said this might be to make, man, you're one of them. Was like the other shoe we have is when guys get paid a lot. And then we offer him fights. We're not getting the fights we want to make. Once they have that goose, I'm not fighting that fucking guy. Yeah. I know. But again, we can't base it off of that,

because I'm sure there's some guys who will do it. Yeah. You fuck with them. But it's not reason not to pay him. Listen, it's all this is hippie talk. But I feel like if I would, if I was on, if I on the UFC, I would not feel good if people didn't feel compensated correctly. This is just

“my feeling. And I'm not a good businessman. If you want to be a good businessman, you got to make”

the most money. I don't know the show. You've done pretty fucking well, Baba. Lot of luck. Lot of luck. You got to say luck, you're driving me nuts. No, but if that's not, if you were harder than anybody else. Well, I work hard when I listen. I stick with things and I have a good work ethic. That is true. But that's half the battle. Yeah, but I'm not like a business man in the sense of like if I was running a business like that, I wouldn't treat it the same way.

I wouldn't say I'm trying to make the most money possible. I would say I got money. And let's just make this motherfucker the greatest thing of all time and make everybody feel good about it. Yeah, but again, I don't know that in and out. I don't know if you can run an organization like that and be a profit. I don't know. Well, it would be profitable, but it wouldn't be as profitable. Yeah, that's the thing when you have shareholders. So when you have shareholders, you have an obligation

to your shareholders to maximize your profits. And this is the only knock on the you see I have

“in order to get that $7.7 billion deal. You have to put on whatever it is, 45 fight cards a year.”

Right. So like those fight nights. So now you don't really have the talent or the stars to fulfill those cards. But because you made this deal with paramount, now you're getting just, you know, you're signing these contenders series kids who have three fights, four fights, where ten years ago, those boys ain't sniffing the UFC. It was so hard to get in. But now because we have to fulfill those cards, you get in a lower level of talent. Yeah, well, here's

this interesting. So one of the players in the purchasing of the UFC, of the rights of the UFC, was Netflix. They're one of the players. They're one of the people that we're thinking about doing it.

So there was negotiations with them. There's negotiations with ESPN and ultimately paramount

was like this wild dark horse that came around with the big money. And I like paramount. That's great. That was huge. Yeah. Look, I love ads are weird, but whatever, I love mobland. I love land. Yeah, mobland is fucking great. Everyone's that fuck. Yeah, great. It's the Audi. Yeah, six and that's a dope right. So bad. Me too. I'm going to whack it as much. No, it's a great show. Yeah. But paramount has awesome shows. So it makes sense. I already had it great. Perfect. I love the fact there's

“no paper view. But what's interesting about Netflix not doing it. Because I think Netflix didn't want”

though. I might be talking about a school, but I'll just say it. I believe what I heard take this. Here's the caveat. Is that Netflix did not want the small fights. They did not want fight night.

fight nights are fucking awesome. We like them. Yeah. Yeah, but public like who the fuck are these guys? Apex, no one there. Yeah. I love Netflix. What take? I love the Apex fights. I love the planning on going to an Apex fight card. I'm trying to find the right one just to go and watch. I'll go on for you. What fucking girl? I would love that. I just want to go to watch because they'll let you in if you come with me. Yeah. I feel like I don't know me any here. I kind of stood

“by the fact they didn't want the volume. That's it. That's how that's it. Which we understood from the”

get go. Ted Cerando, who I love. Bella Bajaria. I don't know. We're very upfront with that. We're looking for big events. So the fact that you could give us one paper view, which is just we were just going to put on the platform for free as long as you're a subscriber, as long as you just give us that, we're in, we'll pay premium for it. But we don't want to carry the other 30 fight nights.

They said we don't want the bullshit. Yeah. Here's the thing. But then where would those 30 fight

nights go? That's the question. But then that feels like a fell delitor or you fight past. Yeah, fight past. We could do that. But to again, the business side of it, the Zufa or TKO's going, well, hold on. The reason we get such a big nut, some points of billing, can we offer so much content? Right. You guys are trying to do our game plan was 15 years ago, which are just one big fight every, every, once a month, which for the fans is fucking awesome. It makes sense for Zufa

and it makes, it makes sense for Netflix. I get it. And all that makes us, it just wasn't a fit. But what I was getting at is now, it's interesting because Netflix has got a lot of money. Netflix throws some money around, right? And Netflix has a tremendous amount of subscribers. And now, Netflix is in the MMA game. I'm glad you brought that out. So, have you guys, this is where you get to talk about it? Keep going. So, us, you guys, like you and me, keep going. No, no one in

the real world was talking about it to me. But that's okay. The point is, they're going to do it, and just because it's on Netflix, I guarantee you millions of people will watch it. I bet they'll have a hard time selling live tickets. Let's see if it's sold out. It's definitely not, and the tickets are $88. But this is where it gets tricky because the, the more places, fighters have to go, the better. Because you see us, no competition. Right. It's a monopoly. All good, which NFL is

MBA is, I've no issues with that. Right. So, if fighters, big name fighters have a place to go and can you pay it? I'm all for it. Right. The issue of this Netflix and getting MMA, it's like, my thing would be, well, what's the plan here? You know, so Rhonda and Gino fight this week, getting at two four-year-olds fighting the main event. It's going to get good numbers. But again, and you know this, you've been in business with Netflix, they're not going to give you the real

numbers. Right. When you negotiate, they don't give you the real numbers. No, they don't tell you shit. They don't tell you, you did great. They don't tell you. But then all of a sudden, Jake Paul did

400 million people, I'm like, really? Did he? So, they're going to say, well, Jake Paul can say that,

right? Did Netflix say that? Netflix? No, Netflix. I mean, like, we're 100 million people. Watch it like that. How many people have Netflix? I don't think they have that many. I made a but crazy number, but it's a ton of people. I'll just be articles said that they have over 300 million subscribers. So, 100 million people were, so let's say 100 million. Yeah. So let's say, how to, but so, and right now, you know, and I get Rhonda's being a promoter, she learned from

Dana. She's like, we're going to destroy the White House. I disagree. I don't think it does,

“but Netflix will tell you they did. Well, here's the thing. Even if it gets really good numbers,”

Jake Paul versus Anthony Josh would draw 33 million viewers on Netflix. That's really good. That's really good. Um, I don't know what the Sean Strickland, um, Homsak Chmai have numbers

were. They might not have been 33 million. Maybe they were. I don't know. The thing about it being

paramount, paramount does not have the number of subscribers in Netflix has. How many subscribers? I'm guessing. I might be wrong. I think they have like 60 million. How many subscribers does paramount pass out? But this is what you're not taking consideration. Paramount and the UFC, it's only in America. So is in Canada and, like, the paramount in Europe, there's, there's, there's not a thing. Right. So what are those views now? Right. You know, like, when we're adding, they get paramount in

other countries, I don't think the paramounts in Europe and shit like that. They're watch on like sky sports. I think out there. They have a different deal. Oh, and then Australia, I think still has

“paper view. Interesting. Yeah. I think you're right. I think you're right. Okay. 79 million paid subscribers.”

So that's a big difference between, it says globally. Yeah. Half of the number of the U.S. 35 million are in the U.S. Um, are there any countries where paramount is not in? Let's, let's put that into. Yeah, but I still think that that UFC deal is just for the U.S. Yeah, it's just for you. Just for U.S. Okay. Because you came to that. So that means there's only 35 million people

the Anthony Joshua five. That's an accurate number. 33 million. They're never going to get to that.

But remember, the White House is also on CBS. That's different. How many people just CBS? How many

“people are watching regular TV? That's why maybe they might 30 more views. Oh, my dad's crunched my”

dad's crunched. That's just on Channel 4 and Denver Colorado. He's your rabbit ears. We're gonna have this type of regular TV man. Regular TV is crazy. Crazy. Like some people have to fucking move the antenna. The signals come in bad crazy. People, there's a people out there with regular TV. Yeah, that's wild. Where they only have the four channels. That's crazy. And they're just getting their news from like, like, you know, robots. Fox. They don't even get

Fox. Fox is cable. That's right. Yeah. Regular TV. You ain't getting jack shit. They can swear on Fox. Can they? I believe so. Because it's it's fun cable. I think you're a lot of swear. I don't know. I think so. Yeah, but I don't think Fox. Well, there's a broadcast version of Fox though. Right, but is it regulated? If it's broadcast, it is. That's the whole. The Fox still right. But broadcast and cable. So what do you mean, but there's a broadcast version. So there's a version

“with over the air. What's what's what's available through the air? Right. That's what that”

is. So the broadcast version, meaning that you could just get it with the regular antenna. Yeah, it's like a local Fox. Okay. Okay. You're right. You're right. You're right. Okay. Can we later? That's right. I'm so old. I remember when Fox was just cable. It's show 31. I remember we wanted to show the Simpsons and maybe with children. Yeah. Simpsons too. Maybe it was broadcast back then. Maybe I'm wrong. I think I am hard to get. It wasn't the strongest

of signals the most place. Okay. But it was always broadcast. Okay. My have fucking times changed

now because there's like, we talked about mob land. There's so many dope shows. There's so many good shows out there. But it's like hot for like a week and then something else comes too. There's too much. Like I don't like there'd never be like game of thrones or sopranos where it's like the entire world shuts down. Right. We all guess kind of binge it when we want true and there's new show here. It's not good, man. True. That's fact. That's fact. Try selling a show right now. Like that.

I was talking about my gear heads gone wild on 2B. 2B has fucking I think 300 million subscribers. They're big. But trying to sell a show. These 300 million subscribers on 2B. 2B's fucking massive. I didn't know either. I don't know either. That's first got the offer. I'm like weird. But again, trying to sell a show is fucking tough. A car show? I don't do. I didn't know 2B had that many subscribers. Look that up to make sure. I've been so exaggerating this up in the past 100 million

monthly active users. How many subscribers do they have? Total. I know the number is a more scribber thing or is it like a YouTube thing? We could just like, if you imagine it's tiered to have if it says a free ad supported streaming service. Yeah, then subscription based model. It's free, but they have subscribed and then you can get the non ad paid where you pay, I think. Oh, okay. So you can just get it for free. Yeah, like YouTube. YouTube bread and whatnot.

YouTube is probably the biggest. Well, like they probably have the most active viewers worldwide. And I'm in close. Yeah. But don't remember. They tried doing like shows and it just ate shit.

“Like YouTube bread. Like YouTube bread. They're like making offers. I remember YouTube bread. I think it's crazy.”

It's interesting because just a regular show on YouTube can do really well, like Mr. Beast. Yeah. But I think YouTube bread was like kind of a little before that, right? And they're like, right. But your show's on here and like, they jump the gun. Yeah. They jump the gun. Mr. Beast, like, or I'll just put my shit out in everybody in the world. Yeah. The thing about if you put your shit on YouTube, there's literally an infinite number of options and channels. That's the thing.

And it's completely dependent on what you see, like the recommended for you. It's completely what you're interested in. Well, now everything's niche now. It's like, like, there's people out there.

We don't even know it. And like, my kids, like, that is 60 million subscribers. Like, what the, I never

know is fucking fine. I know. You know what your money is like? Yeah. It's all niche. On niche. There's that. But then there's also astro-terfing. There's a lot of these astro-terfing is when you have fake downloads, fake views, you have, like, companies that you can hire, and they will get you views. But, and so, but here's the thing. That's going to fuck you. It'll fuck you. But at the point is, people still do it. And they do it because it's, you can do it right now,

right? And so what that means is, like, say, if you have, like, millions and millions of subscribers, and then you look at the views, the views are hundreds of thousands of views. Then you look at the comments, like, fuck in the five comments. Six comments like that. It's going on here. But it's a weird thing to

off your show, right, you're like, and to make money, but it'll get bigger because of the number.

“So here's the thing. Like, so if you go to, like, Brendan Chob, if you did that, if you have”

Brendan Chob's YouTube channel, and I looked at it, I'm like, damn, he's got 25 million subscribers.

Why should fucking subscribe? People do that. Look, they'll click on it. And they'll click on your views or your videos, because if you're like, missing out, like, cool this guy do it. Of course. It definitely, I don't, I'm not saying that's responsible for all the views that you'll get because of that, but it has an impact on how people see you. You look more legitimate. And if you're trying to develop sponsor deals or some sort of a brand endorsement deal, like, well, I've got 20 million

subscribers on YouTube. Like, oh, this guy's big. Yeah, it definitely does. But then they're like, what, there's three comments. Well, there was, there was scammers that were doing weird stuff in the early days of podcast, where they would rig things to exaggerate downloads back in the early days of audio home money. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that's only came and regulated it. Exactly. But it's not like we're all in on it. No. Like, it was someone who was running, because we're all kind of using the same audio

thing. And I, I'm going to tell him, Brian, I'm like, do we have 30 million fucking audio?

30 mil do this month. And then Tom's like, yeah, I got 60. I'm like, do we're crushing it? And then someone came in. It was like, actually. Yeah. But it was doing was like, every time someone clicked on it, it would count. So that like, I'm talking completely, if they started to stop that, right? It could count it over and over as multiple listens. That's right. And I think they do

“that with other things, too. Like, so you have to figure out like who the actual number of people.”

But people have been accused of making, like, you can, you could pay to get Instagram accounts. You can get followers. There's companies that will get you followers. I don't know if it's legit or legal, but I know for a fact that some people don't know the background doesn't. YouTube, don't they try to shut that shit down? They definitely do millions of bots over the weekend. 100%. And I notice it sometimes. I'll notice it while lose like 100,000. Yeah. I lost 100,000.

Yeah. But yeah. There are bots. 100%. And there's a ton of them. And they catch some of them. But some of them are more sophisticated in their approach. And then they adjust. So once they realize what gets them caught, you could run an AI program. Yeah. So if you run an AI program and you have a, like, if you're in fucking Singapore, wherever you're at doing this, you could run an AI program that controls a bunch of different cell phones that has a bunch of different accounts. And you

could have them even commenting on things. And you'll notice this sometimes. And they'll be programmed to comment positive or negative. Or they look, and it seems like a fucking person man. But you'll see that there's like a bunch of numbers after a couple of letters or a name like Bob 567254. And then you see like, God, I don't think Bob's a person. And then you go to Bob's account. And you're like, there's almost no chance that Bob's a person. But they mean my Bob's posting

all the time and making comments on things all the time. And most likely what this is is it's paid engagement. So it's not just paid views. But because of AI and because of programs you could run, there's the potential for paid engagement. I'll log back to this. We've talked about before you guys here is some, I don't know that you're aware of this show. The streamers paying for clip. Next level of what you're describing. So it's not AI doing it. If you're out of

clippers, they're paying for their thousands of people that are just sitting around at home making a shitload of money, a ton of money. And they're posting, because you'll think certain people are bigger than they are. Like, man, I see him everywhere. It's like that's all by design. And you can pay for that too. So that's probably legal, right? So no, I mean, why would it should it be? Right. I mean, it all depends on what are you, what are you doing? Are you getting

money from it? Are you getting advertising revenue from it? To your point, it's a false sense of fame. Because to your point with arm, it's like, yeah, we know him and he's getting views online.

“But does that equal actual fans? I think it reinforces the fans that already love him. Yes.”

And a few people are going to hop on board. But as far as like your general casual that will they're not tuning in for UFC fight card? No. Not necessarily. But as it's also a younger demo, right? Like, have you watched the stream? No. You're older than me? No. No. No. No, watch the stream. Now, I had to talk with a streaming company that I'm like, do what? Wait, wait, wait, you want me to seven days a week turn on the camera and hear my, just like,

breakfast and shit, like hanging out with my family? Well, the streaming thing is nuts,

where people just live online. First of all, how bad is that for your back? And you're

just ranting and raving and talking online all day? Can't be good. But then like, you know, we love rampage. rampage does it make in stupid money? Yeah, but, you know, it's a good move for rampage. You know, he's not fighting anymore. Yeah. It's a good move. Makes sense. And he's got the

He's crashing out there. And he's also got a great personality. He's perfect. He's perfect for that.

“But some people, you know, anything shouldn't be doing that. But streaming is like the biggest”

thing, yeah, Jamie? Yeah. I get me so old. It's fucked back. We're old. Yeah. Also, it's live. You know, it's also, it's like, what do you do with your life? Like, I got things to do. I get said for the Gamma for five hours a day. I don't understand how anybody does it. But also, is it data, taming? Like my life's not fucking lit. They talk about shit on camera and then they watch a bunch of things and react to things. There's a lot of that. Like for a lot of them, like for our channel,

there was a lot of people that were making a living, just going on Twitch and these other channels, these other streaming things. Streaming my show and commenting on it. Like reaction videos. Yeah, get mad about things we said. But they were doing that. Through the, they were play the whole show out. Oh, yeah. It's illegal. Well, it was very shady. It was very weird because they were commenting on it. But it was like your entire content was based on my content and your reaction to my content. But,

you know, it's weird. You know, you're dunking on me or you're pumping me up or whatever you're doing. There was a lot of that going on. And so then there's a lot of people that are watching, whether it's Mr. Beach Show and commenting on that or other shows are commenting on that. So they're watching stuff online. Someone will send them a video of a guy getting a street fight, the comment on that. Yeah. And then they're acting videos. And they're interacting with all these people

that are in the, in the, in the company. Yeah. And they're talking to these people that are in the comments.

It's like, first of all, if you think that social media is bad for your mental health, oh my god.

Dude, yesterday I was driving down, I dropped my kids off. And I was going somewhere. I was going this, this car shop. I trucks in the shop. And I was driving my father-in-law's car. And I see a high school bus. Like Travis High School. I live right by Lake Travis. I see a Lake Travis High School, but it's pull up. I just look over every single kid, stare at their phone. Yep. Not talk to me each other.

“Not saying it, it bummed me out so fucking bad. I know. Do you know the fun we used to have on that bus?”

And no one's talking to each other. I know. The bus is silent. I'm like, God, you guys are doing it wrong. Well, it's not what you're doing wrong. Listen, I know the old dude. You guys are fucking up right now. Well, you're right, but it is also where human beings are headed. We're headed into this weird world

of the digital world. And this is the first steps. These are the first steps we're taking by staring into

a phone all day. But we know it's not good. Oh, yeah. No, so we're just going to continue around this shit road. You don't think there's anything we can do. No, people are addicted. They're 100% addicted to their phone. I don't see anything changing. I think if anything, it's going to get more invasive. And then it's probably, I mean, who knows just guessing what the next technology is going to be. But as this technology moves forward,

it's going to get more invasive. It's going to get more, you're going to interact with more people through whatever the fuck it is. However, they're going to do it, whether it's going to be some new tech that lets you communicate with people, with a headset, and you're reading each other's minds, or whether you're hanging out together in augmented reality. And you're all trying to be like, man, we're head damage. They're not going to. No one's going to. They're going to keep doing

too much money. No, it's just everyone's addicted. And everyone uses it for too many things. It's also primary source of news and information. I get all my ideas about how the world is working from social media. Not social media commentary, but social media stories. Well, some of the posts like this is going on in Ron. This is going on here. I get it off social media.

“I get it off X. And be you have to pick and choose in what you pay attention to, right? Yes,”

dicey. And you've got to find people that are not full shit and not click engagement. Because there's a lot of click, a lot of just click-bait bullshit. Yeah, there's a lot of that. But you also find breaking news. And you also find things that you wouldn't know about, you know, certain stories and certain things that are happening in the news and certain, certain, really crazy stories. They're like, how am I not hearing about this? This should be fucking huge. But you don't think

it's going to be like, and I know we have to use it. You don't think it's going to be kind of like cigarettes. Like in the '60s where everyone was doing it. And then eventually, the parents of those kids, I'm sorry, the children of those parents go, what the fuck, this is so bad for you. If it was a substance,

I would agree. But the problem, it is addictive. But the problem is it's all facets of your life.

It is your calendar. It is your email. It is how you take pictures and all your memories. It is how you interact with a lot of people. There's a lot of people. I don't even have their phone numbers. I just DM me and I have friendships with people that are just DM. So there's that.

really were. We were lying on it. Yeah, there was a bunch of people who didn't smoke. Even when

people smoke cigarettes, like let's look this up. Throw this into Proplexy. Young Jamie, please. During the height of smoking in the United States, what percentage of adult smoke? Let's guess. Back in the day, whenever it was the nuttyest, like in the 50s or whatever,

“I think it was 50%, that'd be high, crazy high. 30 crazy. I was thinking like 33.”

But it might be higher because those old days, man, everybody had a cigarette in their hand. Johnny Carson Show, everyone. Yeah, people walk in a street, smoke on planes, smoke on buses, smoke on trains, everybody's walking down the street, smoke, but what percentage of those people were doing it? Okay. 40 to 45. Wow. In the mid-1960, the height of cigarette used in the

US, roughly 40 to 45% of adult smoke, which works out to the order of 80 to 90 million adults.

Wow, the shit. That's incredible. That's incredible. American Lung Association's summary notes that adults smoke and it's fallen to around, from around 40 to 43% in 1965 to about 11 to 12% in 2022. I think it's back. I think people are smoking. Really? I feel like it's lower. I think people are smoking. I see it a lot now. That's outlawed in San Francisco. Outside. That's hilarious. That's San Francisco. That makes sense. San Francisco tree. Well, you hear what they're doing in the UK?

If you were born before or after a certain date, you can't buy cigarettes when you turn 21. Just to stop people from. Exactly. So people that were born in like fucking whatever year, whatever year they set it at, when they turn 21, they will not be able to buy cigarettes.

Just trying to eliminate. But you will be able to buy cigarettes because you're born a different

time. They say, "Oh, you're retarded. You don't know any better." Thank you. You can buy cigarettes. It's so stupid. It's communism. It's socialism. They just run out the fucking, where the Prime Minister or the fucking King still there. I thought they ran them out. They're bringing somebody else down. They probably want to. But the point is, it's like that kind of woke socialism. It's like, it's the government telling you what to do. When I say communism,

I don't mean like they take all your money because they'll definitely do that eventually, too. But what they do is they tell you what you can say. Correct. They tell you what you can do. They tell you what medications you have to take. It's all socialized medicine. They tell you what to do and what to say and how to think. And they're going to protect you. Protecting someone from cigarettes while you're selling them alcohol is fucking banana soda. It's bananas. It's dumb.

But the England's lost their way. They've lost their way. They've lost their way. They've lost their way. They're fucking shit shit. Well, they're arresting people like crazy for posting on social media about the immigration crisis. Primarily, also other things, but criticizing the government. And now they throw away jury trials for those things. So now it's a judge. And so you don't need to get people like you, your peers to sit there and go, "No, this fucking guy shouldn't go

to jail." His daughter got attacked by some immigrants and he said some wild shit about immigrants.

“And no, he shouldn't be in jail for that. But I think if you like, what's the agenda? Just a ruin?”

We're just ruin the fucking control. So shrink you down to 15 minute cities. They're implementing that in part of U.K. The other thing is a digital credit system, right? So a digital credit school, a social score, and some sort of centralized digital currency, which I think we're probably, they're probably going to try to move us all into eventually. But if they can attach your social credit score with this digital currency, then you have what they have in China. So in China,

if you fuck up and you do something stupid, guess what fuck face you can't buy a plane ticket. That's wild. Yeah, you can't get alone. You can't get this for a house. And it keeps people in line. And then the government can do its job without protests. Do you can I pass real quick? That's just too fucking. I got to pass energy. Just go, we'll be right back, folks.

“So much better. I know it's hard to concentrate when you have to pass. Well, you're talking.”

This my pants. What were we talking about? What's talking about you, show? So what's the guard brother? Yeah. Dude, last time I smoke it, I smoked it backwards. I got roasted so hard online. I know. I didn't notice. I didn't notice, but maybe I just smoke him backwards from now on. Switch it up. It is funny though. But it's really the same. It's just where the label is. Yeah, man. What are these? I'm a rebel. Smoke it backwards. You are a rebel.

There you go. Thanks, brother. Here's the clipper. You know how this works. Make sure you clip the right spot. That one. There you go. Yeah. On this, this cigar is different

because both hands were a pointy. Do you know how to do that? Yeah. Do you need help? No, I got a

big gun. No, no, no, no, I'm dead. You know what I mean? The guard's that's not only in here. Oh, light it. That's right. So your show. So your show is on two B. Two B. Hey, so light this part, right? Well, no, but this part. Which? Yeah, like this one. It's fucking dude. It's tricky, right? No. No. Just retarded. Yeah. Light the part that you didn't cut. What is it called? What's your show called? Your head's gone wild. Oh, that's right. It's just

“like girls gone wild. Same tax and everything. Is that a problem? No, hell no, I think I think”

in fucking on the lamb and Mexico. I think we're good. Is he really? Is he hiding? Yeah, I think so. Either way, we're good. Didn't he get like kidnapped and they fucking hit some dice and shit? Yeah, yeah, they turned out pretty sad for him. Yeah, it's a cart. I mean, it's shipped with where we would be doing anyways, you know, and then they want to make a TV show out of it. So like I went to Calvo, Calvo Viper's, he's got a shit out of me. Calvo Viper's own to the

biggest Porsche collection in Austin. I'm obsessed with Safari Porsche, man. Oh, you like those? God, those are off road ones. You know, I think Russell makes them the Russell. I forget that exact name, but the Russell doesn't like I don't know what that fuck it is when it's an off road, like that that just that vibe. I don't know what it is, dude. I fucking love a man. Why do you love all road ones? I don't know. Is there a dirt track where you could take a Porsche off road car,

too? Oh, I'm sure. Where? I bet it's especially in California, like Johnson Valley and all that. Oh, yeah, yeah. But out here, there's there's place out here. People have been hit me up about right, but when you take when you go off-roading generally, you're going off-roading with a truck where you can bounce over rocks and shit, you can't really do that in an off-road Porsche. That's like more for those crazy mountain roads that are in the dirt. Yeah, that's a jerk car. Russell built fab. Ooh, that's dope, look.

Dude, some dad had one at the base of the 993. Yeah. Oh, wow. So they took a 993 and and ooh, that's pretty. It's my favorite thing in the world. Why? Well, look at the wheel wheels. That's crazy. Wow. Perfect daily driver too. I have to be honest. You know what? I have a fucking problem with those extra front headlights. They stick on the hood. I do not like them.

“I think it fucks up the lines of the car. Oh, great. You could, because you could put those on that”

front there. Oh, just take them on the body. Drop, take them out in the dark, shut the fuck up, battery. You ain't really off-road. I mean, you're off-roading, but you're not in the woods. Oh, don't get twist at night time. Like all my tricks. I have that ramped way about A.V.

I think it's never seen the dirt. Right. But that's different. That looks truck. That looks fine.

Yeah. The extra lights on it. Yeah, but still. I agree. I think it's like, whenever I see those old 9/11s, like the 1972s and they have those extra headlights on the hood, I'm like, ew. Yeah. What are you doing? Yeah. You're ruining the lines of one of those beautiful creations that get bats out of fake tits. Like, what are you doing? No, it's like extra fake tits. It's like you've got two things written on your fucking. Yeah. Yeah. You get some fucking

collarbone tits. Like, get those out of there. They don't belong there. More is not always better. And the shape of a porcelain, especially those long nose porches. Oh, it's so beautiful. And when you have dumbass fucking headlights on the hood, like, it's just not meant to be. Yeah. Get out of here. I like different shit. I don't like I agree those that those headlights do fuck up the lines. But like the thing, I'm just in a different shit. Like, I like when they swap

the L. S's in the porches, too. Oh, yeah. That's dope. Yeah. Just the set. Oh, yeah. That chop. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's shit like that, man. I like those. A lot of people think that's

“heretics. That's like, oh, my God. You should be going to jail for that. Oh, dude. I brought”

her cool L. S engine in a porcelain. Oh, this guy's like, he's the head guy for porcelain driving and he's driving around. And I go, man, you ever driven one of those L. S porches? And he was like, what the fuck do you all say? And I'm like, you don't get down with, he's like, fuck, no, I'm like, yeah, those are gay, those are so gay. No, they're awesome. Yeah. I just like different shit, man. Yeah. Rutledge Wood had one of those. He had one of those. What's the fucking Japanese cat that

does the Y bodies? Oh, I know you're talking about. I saw WB. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. He had one of those with an L. S in it. That's pretty sick. And there's there's companies that do that. Yeah. They're sick.

And it sounds incredible. Sounds like an American muscle car, but yet it's in a car that's like

2,000 pounds. Dude, and all I do is search Facebook Marketplace for RS SWAT porches. God, you can get

air cooled because the air cooled has that raspy. Wow. They are the best. It's a boy. It's great.

“It's a wild sound. That air cooled sound is a wild sound. As I'm getting older too, it's like,”

you know, I've had trucks with 1400 horsepower. I've had cars with 1100 horsepower. And then if you just get an old school Porsche air cooled with 250 horsepower manual on, it's all you need. They're so fun. As you get older, like, why am I chasing this fucking horsepower? Yeah. Because it's just about driving enjoyment. It's not about, you're not racing it. No. You know, you're not on a track. Dude, I knew I had issues when I was driving my kid to his fucking baseball game. And my car

was running hot. My T-Rx, the 1400 horsepower was running hot. I converted to twin turbo. Hellcat engine. It's like 1400. It's run on E85 fuel. There's no E85 out there. I'm the middle fucking like dripping springs. I had to pull around the side of the road because the engine was smoking. I just went, like, what the fuck am I doing, man? Who am I doing this for? It's not like I'm taking it to the track. Yeah. Who am I doing this for? Well, a henna see has a thousand and you can drive it everywhere.

“Yeah, that's probably the way to do it. Hennesse T-Rx. Yeah, they're a henna see Raptor. I almost bought”

one of those. And then I got that AV ram and I linked up with diesel R. And we're doing a Randy transmission. I get a freaking stealth bigger turbo on their fast fuel system. That'll grow. Let me get my pants off. Yeah, I don't know if you're in that stuff. But I'm picking it up today. It's

finally done. That sounds fun. Oh, I did. I can't fucking wait. That sounds fun. Yeah. So the idea is you

just driving around going to different places, having people do different things with cars. Yeah, and like check out what people are doing, different mods are doing. Yeah, and it's like that old school, like car shows that we grew up on. Like it'll throw up facts about Porsche's and about the car. It's just pop up with that stuff. And that's like our boys, like Gordon Ryan was on the with his TRX. It's like 120,000 miles on it. That's really? Dude, that thing's so busted up,

but he just drives it. Every day he off-roads it. He just, we're going to this car. I'm like, dude, I said, no, Gordon, I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell everybody when I get in the car with them. I know this for TV. I don't need to show off. Nobody's trying to get hurt. He's like, I got your man and was just fucking rip in this thing. Dude, I'm like, I flip when these things man. It ain't fun, dude. It ain't fun. But it's, uh, yeah, just shit, we like. You know? And this

was like, you want to do a TV show with them? Like, let's ride, man. It's interesting how much that's a male thing. There are women that are into cars, but I don't know any women. I mean, I'm sure they're out there. But I don't know any women that are into cars that we're in the cars. No. No. Some of them, some of them like cars, they're into some, they're like, for me, it's like,

that is one of the one things about having some money that is worth it. Like, I always tell people,

how it a nice house is great. It is great. There's definitely nothing wrong with how it a nice house. But after a while, it just becomes your house. Yes. And if you're in a humble house that has a nice kitchen and a big TV and a couch and a nice bed to sleep on, you're set. You're kind of set? Yeah. Like, the difference in the way you feel when you're home versus a nice, nice house is not much different. Okay. The difference in driving a nice car is like you are taking

a ride to work. You are at Disneyland. Yes. You would wait in line to get in that car and you're boom, boom, when you're fucking shifting your own gears and boom. Wow. Woo. It's fun and the shit. It's exciting. I live through you because, you know, obviously we're in different tax brackets. You know, I got to do my thing on Facebook Marketplace and shit. I picked up the tires the other day and he goes, "Holy shit, run and chop by tires of Facebook Marketplace."

“So you have to, who doesn't want to fucking deal, man? Put those in the back for me, dude.”

But, yeah, you got one of those poor. I think you're done through a Porsche? Yes. And you took a picture and you're like, dude, I'll just sit in my garage and stare at it. I'm like,

dude, I've never... I do. I stare at it sometimes. I sit in the garage and look at it.

Oh, it's a fucking piece of art, man. Yeah, all carbon fiber. Yeah, dude. When I see that type of Porsche, like, the Gunther work, or I'll see a certain car. I'm just like, I can't even describe that it's like, fuck, dude. That is so sick. Yeah, do you see the Gunther works made a twin turbo slant nose? I sent it to you. Peter Nams sent it to me too. Oh, owner of the company sent it to me? Oh, you know? Yeah. Well, I bought it off him. I bought one off him. Not that. Not the slant nose.

I didn't like for doing with like customer service. No, I do a Peter. He's awesome, but that's it. That car is insane. And they've reached that one against a GT3 RS and it burried it. Buried the GT3 RS. Buried it. Yeah. They did some rolling race, like from 30 miles an hour. And literally it just shot ahead like the other car was power. 167 horsepower. It's nothing.

Because they're carbon fiber. 100%. They're carbon fiber. 2000 something. Yeah. Yeah, I bet it's about 2,400 pounds. 2700. 2700. 2700. 2700. So it's close. But believe the engine's probably super heavy. Why don't I have it super heavy? But there's a lot of jazz in there.

“But what is it? I think it's a leader twin turbo flat six. Yeah, and it's air cooled.”

Which is so nuts. A thousand horsepower, flat six air cooled engine is crazy. And people, everyone, like you talked to anyone, like I don't want a thousand horsepower. You think you want a thousand horsepower. Now it's not like your CRX, CR1X. It's not like that. Like if you buy it or like at my demon one 70, if you get it a fact from the factory, you're good. When you have a TRX or your Corvette, or you know, I've had other trucks about my Ford light.

And if you're reaching a thousand horsepower, buddy, you think you want those problems. You do not. Right. It's a fucking nightmare. And then every week, I was in the shop, call and buddy doing something. I'm like, this is exhaust. Well, this won't be like that.

Like the Gunther work ones are reliable. I'm never going to try. No, those are great.

But the question is does that have any traction control? Hopefully not.

“Like, Jamie, do you please look up whether or not these new Gunther works portions have traction control?”

It's got to know how they can do that now. I know how they can do it. There's like a computer thing that you could buy. It's Gunther's in California. Where they at? I believe so. Yeah. 99% sure of that. Dude, if we're gonna shake it up with him, because I'd love to do an episode with him. A wooden shift knob, pays tribute to the Porsche's Motorsport Heritage, modern electronics like Motorsports, grade, ABS, and traction control. Oh, okay. Well, that's good. It's nice that it has ABS, too. That's dope.

That's, you're going to need it. You're going. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to need it. But see if you can find the race between the GT3 RS and the Slant Nose. Bro, it is holiday and the sound it makes is orgasmic. I can't imagine how much that thing is. Wonderful. Oh, it's got to be a million dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Here's my problem with Porsche.

“Is even 20 years ago when I, but very first car I bought when I had money. I got it from podcast.”

My says 15 years ago. I bought just your base 9/11. Went to the Porsche dealer, bought a base 9/11. I could afford it. It was, I don't know, 80 grand. Now Porsche has become, it's almost like what Ferrari was 10 years ago, where just the base Porsche is so expensive, man. It's pricing out their

markets. So now it's become, and we've been on Porsche for how long? Like we've always talked

forever forever. Let's start shit. Watch this. Oh, my God. It's top gear. Oh, it's top gear. Yeah. Great. Great channel. Yes. So these guys that they do a rolling start, I guess they did a rolling start because they didn't want to dump the clutch on this million dollar car. We safe watch this. Watch this when they get to 30. Look that interior dude. Watch this go. It's like the fucking clothes. It's not even clothes. It's not even clothes. That's insane.

And the GDPRS is a fast, fast, more the fucking car. But this was not his car. Obviously this is, you know, someone else's car that they're letting him test. And so whoever bought that car

and spent a million dollars or how much did they cost? 1.2. 1.2 million dollars.

Yeah. Again, that's my only issue with Porsche. Because if you want a GT3 RS, they're so expensive, man. It's like, well, people flip them. Oh, yeah. People flip them because they're really hard to get to. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a lot of demand for them. Yeah, it's tough. We're back in the day. If even if you're a Porsche, you could start somewhere and you'd be okay. And now it's almost like Ferrari. It's on attainable for a lot of people. Well, you know what a lot of people are doing? What's $400,000 more? It's $1.6 million.

That car is? Yeah. One more. It's just crazy. Worth every penny. If you got that loot, if you got that loot, please buy it. One of the things that people are doing is taking that lighter weight, Porsche 911 T, you know the T. Yep. And they're taking that and juicing it up to like 700 plus horsepower and, you know, putting some mods on it. Now you're talking my language. Yeah, because you can do that for way less than it would cost you to buy a twin turbo. Yeah. And you're

getting the same kind of speed, but you're also getting rear wheel drive. Yep. And you can get them for pretty pretty, I don't want to say cheap, but cheaper. cheaper. Like it's so tough man to get some those like the GT3 RS is, you gotta be allocated or it's like 150 over markup, like it's tough these days in the Porsche business. They're crushing it. It's good for them. Right. But again, for like my kids, hopefully they're fortunate for them making good money. But it's gonna be really tough to get an

date wasn't that. It wasn't. No. You know, it used to be much more affordable. It was the more affordable

supercar, a daily driving supercar. But you know, the market and it's also things change, right? 'cause now everything is twin turbo. They're all twin turbo. Yep. Unless you buy a GT3, they're twin turbo. Yep. Yeah. I think two, one of the reasons I went away from the exotic, because I mean, you know, I even modded my GT2 RS, like my native, but it loses value in it. So when you mod them,

“when you mod them, you fuck them up and I just can't leave anything alone. So that's why I went so”

heavy in American shit because, you know, the C6 is all all the American stuff. You can mod the fuck out of and there's a market there and not losing your ass. And they're cheaper to mod. Like

when I would mod a Ferrari, buddy, exhaust, whatever the fuck turbos, if you want to do a tune,

it's a fucking nightmare man. Night now. Well, it's all. To me, it's all about enjoyment, right? And so like, what do you, what do you, what are you getting out of it? If you're not like racing it and trying to go around corners, sideways, and fucking old correcting, and you're not really doing that with most cars, you're just enjoying it when you're driving it. And for me, I love the feel of a V8. Like, I have one of those Shelby super snakes. Yeah. It's a six-speed. Did you get this

super snake car? It hasn't got it yet. That's on the way. We. I fucking love that car, because it's

“a modern muscle car. Driving it is like driving an old school muscle car, but it's all modern.”

And perfect starts every time. Interior is great. And it's just the fun of just driving normal speed, just normal speed, just driving the work, not speeding. Just boom. You feel like you're doing something fun. And do you get that same excitement in your CR1X? No. No, it's something the same. The CR1X is on another planet. It's a spaceship. I mean, it's the most capable car I've ever driven by far. Like when I took the CR1 around the racetrack, we drove it around Coda. I was like,

this thing is crazy. Crazy. It's so fast, and it handles so well, and it gives you so much confidence. But it's different when you're not shifting your own gear. If you're not using the clutch, it's all about that. The driving experience is about engagement. And if you're not using a manual, you're missing, you're going to have fun. Don't let me wrong. You get a Corvette. You're going to have

a lot of fun. Great car. But shifting your own, you know, they finally started making a gear

a manual transmission for the C8. Really? Yeah. So it's not the grand sport coming in a manual. I don't think it's going to be offered by Corvette. I don't know if there are. You can view it. But you can buy one now. So see what the company is that does that. But it's a famous transmission company. Yeah, that's making a C8 manual transmission. And everybody saw that. Because that's the only knock I've heard on like actual car guys with CR1X. I go fast as

fuck. It's great. But it's kind of doing it for you. Like the drives different. Like it's so it's a spaceship. It's a spaceship. It's your Luke Skywalker. Yes. It does not offer a manual transmission. It's a Tremek. Okay. Tremek has developed a six-speed manual that fits the C8. GM considers it not real for production. What does that mean? But Tremek makes it. But they make it.

“Yeah, Tremek selling it? Is Tremek not selling it? Or did they make it just for funsies?”

Because Tremek made the transmission on my super-tremek. They make the best transitions. Tremek's new six-speed manual transactional opens the door from manual swap vets and other creations. So you can do it. This is what I would do. What I would do is get a Z06 and put a fucking manual in it. Now we're gonna let's go fucking go. Now you have literally the ultimate Corvette. I get that Z06 in that. There's no word yet on price timeline or who's gonna cook up the software to tell the

Corvette to cooperate with three-petal transmission. That is the problem. Because you're gonna have to. And the ECU. Yeah. It's a big problem. Yeah. The biggest problem I've had is with the ECU. People don't realize, you know, the guys who do all the mods they do. But it's like I got a 2024 ram. And right away I'm like, right, what mods am I gonna do? I'm talking to Randy's transmission, bang. I'm talking about my boys at Diesel R. And they're like, you got a 2024. I'm like, yeah, what's up? Low miles, man.

I'm like, I fucked up. Like, why? Like, because 2024 and up, there's no way to unlock that ECU. Like, you have, we have to find an ECU from a 2022 or earlier. And I'm like, okay, those can't be expensive. Oh, they're blood diamonds. Because everybody wants that. You're looking at seven grand for unlock the ECU. Wow. And that's just to ECU. That's not at any power. That's just to get it.

I'm like, no fucking way. Well, how about this new law that they just passed? Where your car is gonna monitor you? And then they're gonna have a kill switch in your car. So to keep people from drinking and driving, or if maybe they don't like what Brendan Shaw posted on Twitter,

“they're just fucking shut your car down. I think that's even more reason to buy old shit.”

Yeah, a lot of reason to buy old shit. Um, put that, please into Proplexity and ask them when this law is being passed. And what the law entails, because I've been hearing a lot of different versions of it. I want to know what's going to happen in California first. What's past nationwide? And Thomas Massey voted against it. And I think Federman might have voted against it too. I'm not sure. Real federal mandate tied to 2027 model your cars. It's about impaired driving

detection. Yeah, but this is how it starts. The problem is, if it has a kill switch, ask if it

has a kill switch. If that's part of it, I mean, it probably is going to be in here. Right. Okay. Why people call it a kill switch? Because the system may be able to prevent the engine from starting or shut down performance if it decides you're impaired. So that's a kill switch. So that is great if you're preventing someone from drinking and driving. Correct. That is not great. If you are Nick Fuentez and you're in your car and you're, you know, but that's the Trojan horse. Like they

get you in with that. It's for safety. That's the thing. It may as a key word in there. Maybe,

“but well, the thing about that is I think they already have that with the Corvette.”

I think with on-star if someone steals your car, you can shut it down. Right. So that's a security. If you have a Corvette and Brendan Chob is running from the law and you're trying to get to Canada. But can't they do that with your Tesla's? That's a problem. I mean, it's a computer. Of course, they probably can do that. I'm really bummed out the Tesla's canceled the Model S. Jamie, now we're just talking about it for the show. They can all go away and I won't give too much.

I know your boy, but I just don't care. I literally do your thing. I drive it all the time. I love it. With all the cars you have. I love it. It's the one thing I'm in love it. Listen, I love the eights. Look, I drove my Raptor here. You know, Raptor's badass. Well, fanboy would say that it's just going to be replaced by that roadster that they haven't shown yet. So yeah, but the roadster's a two-seater. My car is a four-seater, four-door car that goes zero to 60 and under two seconds.

But why would they get rid of that? I've never had four. Because they're my car. You never

had four people in my car. Jamie, you know, you haven't, but like, so like the other day, I had to pick up my daughter because she was, she was being driven and the car they were driving got a flat and I was on my way home with the exact same time and I picked her up in her friends. Yeah, so I had three friends in the backseat, one in the front. Yeah, I got everybody in my car, no problem. I like having a four-door. I have a family. I know you're a single guy.

I like, for you, a roadster would be fun. That's just a, just a, you know. I'm not for you. It's a small little car anyway. I'd like the X is pretty dope too. They would, they also canceled the X. I don't know. The X is dope. X is dope. X is dope. X is dope. X is dope. Tiffany Hattish one had one and she showed me that he danced. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The parking lot has seen that, but like this is crazy. That's your crazy. I only do, I don't have anything too

to any more because kiddos. Like, I just try to create the most badass dad away by can.

Yeah. It has to have four doors. Well, I mean, I, I have two door cars, but I always have to have

a sedan. I like a sedan. Your kids are older than two. Yeah. If I didn't have a Tesla and I have a sedan, what I would get is the Cadillac. The CT5 black wing. Let's go. And you can get a manual. You can get the new one. The F1 is only in manuals. The highest horsepower 608 F5. I don't know why I couldn't say that word. Six hundred and eighty five doors. I know you do. It's not from Marvel Mountain. Six hundred and eighty five horsepower and it's only manual.

“But take my fucking mind. I want an automatic. I think so. If that. Yeah, manual sounds fun. But if”

you're driving it all the time, especially if you live it in their way. Yeah, depending on where you live it. Yeah. Jamie, that could be you, but like we were just a new jersey. Bro, that's you, James. I'm not saying it's a bad car. I'm just like it's I. I'm going to drive it 10 miles a day. He does. Yeah, it's a awesome 10 miles. So it's not the feeling in that car with the torque and the sound of the engine. Hey, go anywhere on the third floor. Listen to the traffic. Give me some

fucking volume and let's be here. Let's drive in one in this car. Yeah, well, Jamie's not really a car. Well, very, very drive it to the golf course. But like yeah, once a week. Yeah, much better playing the sound like that. Oh, we're all carbon around it. Me, drive, drive, drive. So it's drive. Let's go. How did you answer that in the video? Oh, why, why would they do this to me? What

Could just just just click that though. That's the black. Oh, there we go. Oh, my

dick. Just gone hauled. And we can spice that up, Jamie. You sent it to me for a day, Baba. That's fine. The way it comes from the factory's fine. I get this just lovely. There's something. I know. You didn't get it really loud. But the thing is just that alone. There we go. Come on, dog. All right. I mean, some out. Yeah, he's in. Yes. Do you don't understand? Oh,

“can't go baby. I feel all that's a can up one. That one's nuts. That's what you want. Oh,”

there's a lot of mods. Dude's jack those up above $1,000. Oh, that's going to get robbed out here. Then no, Baba. Oh, come on. Where's our car? Where's our car? You want to be gathered by crowd on driving anywhere. Where's he going? Come on. He's behind that. You live in a nice place. Are you buying cracks? She got covered parking. You don't need it, but it's fun. I just think it gone in 60 seconds. When you've got a dope car, people know you've got a dope car and you're

seeing driving a dope car. They're going to follow you and that dope with our friend. You got followed. What's wrong with you, Joel? Joel. Yeah, it's just going to happen. He's in Dallas. I'm fucking dope Tesla. He's in Dallas, by the tacos at three in the morning, million Tesla's all over the country. Bro, I drive. He's got him for Rory. I drive for Rory. I drive for Rory. He's shipping in a

catalog. I've never had these. Have you ever had these? Have you ever seen these issues?

No, it's what you out here. You can catch an issue every now and then, but the thing about Texas is everybody's armed. Like you, you can't just roll up on someone and try to take their car. You're risking your fucking life. It happened on fifth street, a block away from the club brought too long ago. Yeah, on right in front of any of these people get carjacked in every city. That's fact. That's not how I haven't talked. Now where I live. Come on, come on over to the burbs, dude. So you

think if you have like, when I'm cyber truck, so supposedly cyber truck is coming out with an SUV. Maybe, yeah, I don't know. Allegedly, it'd be cool. Elon won't tell me. He won't tell me shit. You know what I'm telling you? I got big fucking business. Not always online people have showed things, but like, you know, really know. What are they? What are they showed? Potential, like, it looks a little bit like the mix between an X and a cyber truck. See, that would be a smart move

for them to make a cyber truck that's an SUV. It's a smart move because you already have the shape just instead of having to pick up truck parts where no one's using X and the seats. Yeah, have the seats back more and you could even shorten the wheelbase a little bit and make it, like, you know, like when the smaller Cadillac SUVs, you could or just say fuck all that noise and get a Hellcat Durango because the Atlantis does all the Hellcats back, baby. Hellcat Durango,

“Godfather the Hellcat Tim is back running fucking Dodge. Yes. That's why I think fucking God.”

Yeah, they got crushed in it. They got silly with that electric fan. I get some French guy running it. Is that what it was? He killed Yeah, and killed America. That's what it was, boom. We wanted to destroy America. It was like the most iconic American like V8 power cars were Dodge, Dodge Viper. Well, that's a V10 Dodge Viper. You had, but just big engines, right? You had, you know, gasoline engines. You had, of course, the Challenger Challenger Hellcat Hellcat Red Eye crushed it.

Crushed it. Are they going to discontinue the Challenger? No, they're coming out with a gas Challenger. So, they fucked up and came out with a Challenger in all electric and in a charger. Was a Challenger? And it's a Challenger, too. I think they're both, right? You can't chain it. They're coming out with a charger that's gas power. Yeah, the charge is dope. I've seen some reviews. It's pretty dope. It's dope. And it's fast. Fast as fuck.

Now we're talking Jamie. What are you doing here? That's not this. Okay. 20 more of an issue. Here we go. That's a straight. Look at that. Jamie. Here you go.

“Let's fit in there. Yeah. Now we're talking. The Durango kept Dodge off engine. That's what you need.”

Jamie, you need a goddamn V8. Like a fucking hellcat. You're going to come in here with a fucking hairy chest. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you need. That's it. Forget the Cadillac. We're on to this now. We're on to this. We're on to this. That's what I wasn't at. This is also people of these. This is a robbery card. The track hog. That's why I'm off of that track hogs are great, too. When you need a steel. It's not that many of me on people, right? Okay. How about you get a

Hennessy. Tell him to leave the badges off. Hennessy's a sofa up Hennessy doing leave the badges off. Oh, did you just look like a regular one a sleeper? I just be worried the whole time. Oh my god. What were you

living in? Do you see Hennessy did a super duty? Hennessy finally got a super duty? Yeah. I love.

Hennessy does dope shit. They do dope Mustangs. They do dope Cadillacs. They take the black wing and fucking see that. That's why with with Tubi, it was like let's see how these four episodes go.

want to do a show with him. I want to go to Gunther. Yeah. But John, great. He's up the fucking

“run. He's great. I can get at you with him. He's good dude. He's a friend of mine. Me and him had a”

combo because when I was building my rap to get to 1400 horseback called him. Well, I'll hook you up with Gunther too. Yeah. They're great. He's Peter's very cool too. And then go smokes is track hog. Yeah, dude. Oh, the the derangue with the hell cat. Yeah. That's probably not a Hennessy one. Well, those, it doesn't matter. I mean, they put a hell cat in one of those fucking things you're dealing with insane horse power. It's so much horse power. They're awesome, Jamie. And it's the red

interior. It's fucking awesome. Or we're salespeople. We're selling dodge. Oh, it's actually might have been the track cock on the right. Okay. Whichever one at one. Either way, pick your person. It was in this fucking get one. I would 100% drive one of those. 100. But yeah, you are my I might get one too if you get one. Shit. Well, he gets really hard. That's good. Charge. How dare you. You son of a bitch. You know what, man, he's not wrong though with the

weight gas prices are. I talked to Tim Dylan today. He was I was on the phone with him when I came to student. He told me that gas is $7.90 a gallon in LA right now. And that's down from what

it was a I was out there a month. She was commercial and it was up to $8.40. Here's what I don't

understand. Are we getting oil for me, Ron? No, that's. Oh, maybe three or four percent. So they just fucking us. Yes. They just know. Oh, Americans know if we go to war, we can increase the gas price. So we're going to go along with it. Is that real or is it global prices went up because some of the gas can't get to where it needs to go. And so they need to make that money. So they just fuck you. Isn't it funny like they're like, we're going to make money no matter what.

Yeah, the American people are going to lose money. So we make the same amount of money. And also fuck you. You need oil. Well, my whole thing is even like when, you know, when we go to war

“people like, yeah, they're just doing it for money. It's like how much fucking money do they need?”

They don't all rich anyway. American gas prices are rising mainly because crude oil has become

more expensive due to the war with Iran and disruptions in global oil supply plus normal seasons and cost factors and refining distribution and taxes. Biggest driver crude oil in the Iran war. But what if we got all our oil from America? What you can do? Well, if we did that, why would oil go up? Because like, there goes a price as our type why low price market. But that's the start selling it. That's stupid. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, but they're a bunch of crooks. They we should

have a national oil company in New Orleans sell in America. In house, no matter what right there, foul shit we do outside the world still sell wherever they want. Yeah, even though US is the world's largest oil producer companies can sell oil on the global market to whoever pays the highest price. And it affects us. High world prices still translate into high domestic gas prices. Hey, Mr. President, please fix that. I don't know if he can do that. They'll kill him.

They try to kill him three times already. You try to use you try to fuck with that oil money. Oh, but also I'm President JD is crying on TV. I'm going to miss it. I'm going to miss Donald. He was a great mentor to me and I didn't know he's agree with everything he said. And I wish he didn't post that picture of him as Jesus. I do do do it. Hey, you know it's crazy to me. Is there's been like free legit assassination attempts? And it's in the news two, three days and we're

just like, yeah, it's crazy. And we move on. Well, there was another one that barely made the news.

“We're a guy showed up and tried to attack JD. You remember that guy? No. Yes, he. I know.”

This guy from a showed up. I think he was at the White House. I think some guy showed up at the White. He sees guy. He just got killed or got shot in Cambridge. So this guy, he had a shootout with the cops three years ago. Went to jail for three years. It's got out and was walking on the street in Cambridge. Just unloading his gun. I'm sorry. I just shoot and random people on the street. This guy had gotten a shootout with

the cops and only did three years. That's insane, dude. He shoot out with the cops. I think 20 bullets were exchanged. And he only did three years. Bro, the here's the other problem is I saw they took a again, whoever's doing these polls. You have an idiot to get stopped on the street and look at this guy. This is wild. He's just walking on street shooting at cars. Bro, by the way, I'm running that guy over a thousand, especially for my my Toyota. My

land cruiser where I know it's not going to mess up my car. That's insane. Meanwhile, if I in Cambridge though, I probably go to jail for life. 100% you're fucked. Yeah, for defending the public. But I saw survey said one in four Americans think the assassination attempts on the

Yeah, the people that thought that the Butler Pennsylvania one was staged don't know anything about guns.

“That's a fact. I don't know anybody who knows anything about guns. It thinks that the president”

would let some guy nick his ear with a bullet. Sodom. That is in the guy behind him, the firefighter who lost his life. That guy got shot by a bullet that was intended for Trump. And then there's a photo of a bullet whizzing by his face. Anybody that thinks that that staged is out of their fucking mind or the guy that the course wants dinner who rushed in? Yeah, they think that's fake. And it's like, all in. So you think this guy who's a teacher educated clearly kind of

has shit together through his life? Well, Timbersheat, who I had on the podcast, Congressman. Yeah, he thinks that guy was like some sort of an MK Ultra type deal. And he says he thinks they still

do that. You think someone's still doing that? I've always thought that. I'm not trying to steal

it. I'm sure he has way better points than me. But if they did MK Ultra all those years ago, when you go through the list of Charles Mans in the Unibounder, you think it stopped. Right. And you don't think they've gotten better with it? Exactly. So you just think they're like, okay, the public knows we're going to shut this down. No, do. Yeah, they just they expand. It gets better and better and better. For sure, they're still doing that. And that could have been

Thomas Crooks, too. The guy who tried to shoot Trump and Butler Pennsylvania. Yep. That one was weird as fuck. That one's so weird because that guy's house was professionally scrubbed. He didn't even have silverware there. He had no online activity. He had no social media. Blackrock

“ties. Have you heard anything about him? Nope. Gone. How weird is that, dude?”

Vanish, like, kind of stuff. What about the Charlie Kirk guy? What about the guy who killed Charlie? Right. We haven't heard nothing. One interview with them. That's not weird. It's super weird.

Nearly one third of Americans, 30 percent believe that at least 30 percent. At least one of

the three attempts on Donald President's life over the last two years were staged. Wow. I have an 50 percent attempt to assassination a majority of Americans said either that it was staged or that they were not sure. 54 percent said they either thought it was staged or not sure. And that's the problem. Only 38 percent of Americans believe all three assassination attempts were authentic. This is TikTok. That's the price. That's the fucking problem. Rotten their fucking

brains out from inside their heads. I know. It's not good. Maybe while you go on Chinese TikTok, it's all like traditional dance and martial arts abilities. Science projects. Yeah. It shuts down for kids after 10 p.m. Yeah. And like Americans have fun. Yeah. They're about your brain. They're doing such a great job. And then they sold it. Right. So they sold it to that American company. And they're just going to continue doing what the Chinese did and make the most amount of money

which is rotten people's brains out. Don't give a fuck. I want to be dope if this American company that bought it said, Hey, there's clearly a problem with how things are emphasized and what your algorithm shows you. And what we're going to do is promote like exceptional people doing exceptional things. Don't you think they would get more users? Because as a dad, I'd be like, okay, you guys can have TikTok. They, they, there's some rules there. They, they're, it's an educational thing.

Now, not a fucking chance to. No, it wouldn't get more. It would, uh, everyone would go right over to Instagram. But it's like Instagram's all. What if they did across the board? You would have to have no one cross that picket line and they all would because people were addicted to watching fucked up street fights and crazy things now. Like my algorithm is all like people fighting in parking lots and there's so much of that. Hey, my mind's just

trucks cars and fucking fights on Instagram. Yeah. So my problem is me and Cigura every day said

“each other the worst thing we find on the line. I don't want to start my day like that. And I don't”

either. I don't either would it's too late. But that's the only time I'm going to Instagram now. The only time. And then I'll check my, you've got to get it right. Yeah, it's just so much better. It feels so much better. I go in occasionally and check Twitter to see what the news is. Like what's trending, what's what you're not like reading. No, no, no, no, no. And then I don't even go into the news feed because I used to go into the news here with everyone. I find things about

me all the time. Like, I want to hear what a douchebag I am. That's what I'm like. Come on. I'm not here for that. I know. So I can't avoid people getting mad at me or even saying nice things about me. I don't want to read that. No. I think what's better is I go to the trending stuff and find out what the news is. So then I'll click on like what the fuck is going on? And I'll check that out. Like that's how I found out about this guy with the gun. And you feel

so much better way better. But I also more often than not now not going there for my news and I've kind of curated my Google news feed smart to be much more interested. Like I get more stories and it'll show me stories from X. Yeah. So then I can decide whether or not I want to actually

I'll back. How about how back are you? Not back crazy. But I'll have a couple of drinks every

“now. I haven't gotten drunk since I've been back. Do you know what I'm talking about over two years?”

No, that's not. Almost three. Feel good. Feel great. Never been in better shape. Yeah,

it's a feel fucking. Definitely better for you. But I do like a glass of wine or two with dinner. I do like a drink or two with the boys when we're at the club every now and then. But I just I was doing it too much. Me too. And then I recognized and so I stopped. Yeah, just it wasn't benefiting me. And then also, you know, I've addictive personality. Like if I do something, I get to be all in. Like on cars, like literally one day I woke up and like I don't need 11 cars. And half of them are

trucks and they're all the same. You know, it's just like when I get into something, I get so into it. But I'm getting bad as I'm getting older, I'm getting better checking myself. Good. It's good. Getting better at that is very important to managing your life. It's really important. It's growing out. Well, it's also just realizing that there's some addictions that are just not beneficial at all. And then other ones that are really beneficial. So just get addicted doing things that are good for you.

Yeah, thanks. You know, but that's the problem is that a lot of people can't regulate their

addictions. Well, they're just not good at it. And so they just get caught up and, you know, it could be anything. Oh, you know, to do preach. That's me. Yeah, but it's also that same thing is what causes people to get good at stuff. Correct. Which is weird. You know, like if you show me a dude who can't get addicted to anything, like it's not there's not one thing that is taking up too much of your time. I'm probably kidding. Correct. And it's not good. Yeah, not good. Yeah, because that same

obsession is what led me got me to the UFC or football exactly. Exactly. Like being all in on something, I think, is where that's where obsession can lead. The scary one for me, I think, not for me personally, but when I see it is gambling. Oh, because I see people that are really rich, not just Dana, but other people that I know that are really rich, that gamble big numbers. And it freaks me out, like big poker games and crazy amounts of money that gamble on stuff. And

I was like, I don't like that. Like, but you get your rocks off in other ways. I think for those like super rich people, like that's kind of like they can buy any car, they can buy any house,

“they're going into. In order to get their rocks off, that's how they do it. Yeah, but it has to be”

a big number for them to feel it. But the juice has to be so high. If they've had a hundred bucks on something, they don't even vote. That doesn't mean they might not even cash that ticket. Like they don't feel it. You know how you and I are similar with obsession. Do you, do your kiddos have that? Do you see anything? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Positive. Super driven. But it's very positive. Kids are going to take the atmosphere that they grow up in. And if your parents have a hard

work ethic and they're disciplined and they're kind, generally speaking, that's how your kids come out. Yeah, I think that's one of the shitty kids. Yeah, I generally genuinely think that it's at least part of it, it's from the parents. Dude, I coach my son's baseball football teams, the crazy parents I deal with, buddy, dude. And I try to talk to the dads, because most of them respect me, so I'll go, can I give you some advice, man? You got it back off, dude. But they can't. They can't.

It's that they can't, and they have to change who they are. And I tell them, I'm like, I'm trying to help you out here. You're, you love baseball, whatever, you love football. Your son has told me he wants to quit. Now, the reason why it's a quit is because you've made it not fun. Right. He used to love this game. When I first got there, he, the, nothing he loved more than football. Now, he wants to quit because you've made it a job for him. You fucked up, dude. And who's it

going to affect? Hey, it's going to suck for him because he likes football. You're, you're not going to be able to watch a kid play football, dude. Could you decide to make it not fuck up? You're going to fuck up your relationship with your kids. I don't, try, I don't force my kids and do it other than they have to go to school. I don't force my kids and do it anything they don't want to do. And if they're not interested in it, you don't have to do it. But find something you are interested

in. That's my thing. Whatever you're into, that's right. I don't get fuck what is. Just so happens, it's baseball football. Cool, that's right, man. Yeah, but if you do it, you do personality for that, and that you're very encouraging your kids. But you're not, it's not, it's not you thinking that like your self worth is not tied up to your kids performance. You just want your

kids to have fun. Yeah. The problem is with some people, their kid is almost like their racehorse or

something. You know what I mean? Like it's like their, it's their whole personality gets wrapped around their kid being in a lead athlete. Brother, and now it's worse because social based, right? It's like, it's, it's a business out. It's over a billion dollar business. So now it's like,

“there's these travel ball when I was a kid, you have to be really fucking good. Well now every”

parent wants to say their kids travel ball. So there's the majors and there's two teams of the majors. There's three triple A, three double A, three single A. I just want mice. I don't need the best

a fuck. It's majors, triple A, wreck, wordplane, wherever. Have fun. Have fun and get and get and apply yourself to something and apply yourself. And I don't give a fuck. Whether what level we're at, we'll play it all. And some of the parents all come back from the tournament. They're like, oh, you play double A. I'm like, yes, base vomit. You think you can only play majors. So what I can sit around the coop with a water cooler and brag to you guys. I don't want to make crazy people

like talk down about a kid who's not playing as good as other kids. Oh, it's like, what do you, um, but, you know, that's the, it's like stage moms, you know, there's a thing like that with actors to your point. Yeah. And he's tied up in, but they, what they don't realize that they're fucking it all out. Oh, yeah. It's all going to get fucked. I've seen that with a lot of young actors where their parents were like super involved in their career. And then the kid just did not

want to do it anymore. And generally, like, I've seen it a few times. And one of them that I know really well were the parents stole money from the kid. Fuck dude. Yes, they stole like six

million dollars. He's got to tell you who it is after the show. That's terrible. Oh, it's awful.

“It's awful. It's like devastated. I'm to find out. But it's like that's what they're doing. They're”

using the kid as a piggy bank. They quit working. They relied entirely on the kid and the kids acting. Let's push on the kid 10. Oh, I got to afford all this so we can fucking live. And I'm nine. Not only that, but then, you know, the kid starts feeling like, hey, this is my fucking money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't absolutely fucking show. He's the boss. Yeah, I mean, he had problems with it, too. They all have problems with it. And then on top of that, it's just super unhealthy for

you kid to get famous when they're 10 horrible. And also for pretending horrible. Famous for pretending. That's, but how's that going to happen? It's just a personality. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of parents out there, man. They just, um, but I don't understand, you're, you're developing a human being. And one of the reasons they don't understand is they're not developed well. Correct. They're fucking nuts.

Or the biggest problem is usually the parents who never played. Right. And they're like, man,

they'll see just a, a glimpse that their son has some talent. And then it's, they're the worst. Did you kid into cars? You big time. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, time. You got to teach him how to drive.

“So they don't have to do stupid when they get old. That's why I tell them all the time. All the”

fucking time. Oh, no, they're going to learn how to drive a manual. It's an easiest way to do car. Jamie, you want to make sure your car doesn't get stolen by a manual. The criminals these days, they don't even drive the driving. Do you want to drive one? Do you want to drive one? Sure. Oh, I was going to burn that clutch. Look at them. I haven't done it a long time. I can figure it out. Don't have a bladder right now. Yeah, especially if you only drive in 10 miles a day. Perfect

candidates. I just don't want to. It's just a morning. Yeah, no, like, my kids know that shit. Like that. I mean, there's no, there's so many other cars in the world. What do you like? I don't get it. So I don't. I don't. I don't. I'm not driving anywhere. I'm not driving on a race track. Okay, okay, okay, but let's just put all that aside. What would cars do you look at you? What I like that? Or do you look at a car that you like and go? That's a target.

“No, it's a, if it's one I like, it ends up honestly being like, uh, like an X6 somewhere in that range.”

X5, X6, A, M, W, G, L. Okay. Now we're talking. Yeah, the somewhere in there. Those are, I'll tell you what. Look, whoever made the new grills on the BMW should be Dick Slap into the hospital, like, like, what the fuck did you do to one of the most iconic grills in the, like, the M4's, like, below. Yeah. What did you do? They just, they're, they're just trying to switch it up. You know, and they miss. But they feel like that goes through. Bring that agreement? That. The only one that looks good or looks

decent is the seven series. There's something about the proportions of the seven series with that big grill. It doesn't bother me. That M2's fucking tasty, too, though. Okay, that's dope. Those things look up. They didn't get a goofy with the grills. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck on with that. They sort of fixed it as times gone by, but it's still got a big gap. Like, that's, yeah, I don't like it. The earlier ones were the grossest ones. But look at that right there, which the lower ones, I'm sorry. That one's good,

but the left one, the white one, the white one. Yeah, that's it. Look at that's perfect. That's perfect. That's perfect. Do you still have the M5? No, but I do have the E46 M3. Oh, yeah, that was a cool. The 2005. That was an awesome. That one's fucking great. That was literally a perfect car. That's a great car. Like, like, that one, that one's gross. That grill, the lower right one, the bronze color one. Black. Yeah, my brother has that new M2 manual and I think fucking

M2s are amazing. Those are amazing. The BMW to their credit is still making manual transmissions

which look a little better. Do they make a manual in the M5? They don't, right? I don't think so.

ratio. Yeah, the signal is not the first thing coming up. Yeah, I don't think they make it a manual transmission anymore. See if it says manual transmission. I think they make the M4 manual. Yeah. Oh, six-speed. But that's the E60 V10. That's a old one. Those are the V10's

agree. V10 sound amazing. Yeah, they sound amazing. My E46 is not that fast. There it is. That's old.

Yeah. So the last one, that does those the last ones they made in the manual. But my E46 is small.

“That's what you want to buy. It handles really good. It's got hydraulic steering, manual transmission.”

And you know, it's a dinan, so it has a supercharger on it. So it's a little faster. So it's like 400 something horsepower. But monster. Dude, it's just fun. It's just you feel it while you're driving it. And they look fun. I don't know where to know. I was trying to track that said that they got two of them that were, unless there's only two vehicles here. Was this thing? Might be not an American thing that's happening? No, those are old. No, no, I'll tell you what I saw.

Oh, that they did. So put in 2026 BMW M5 manual. I just saw that. We got two versions of the

BMW M5 with a manual that the rest of the world messed out on. That's what I saw. Let's click on.

When does that, though? If you click on it, I think 25. Right. But I think they're talking about old cars. I think they're doing a history. The BMW still has two versions. They're talking about older cars. BMW still has great interiors too. Oh, yeah. Some manufacturers still fucking do it right. BMW doesn't right. They're really good. It's a solid car. The new M5, even if it isn't a manual, it was a fucking screamer or car. They're monsters. Yeah. But they have to make them hybrids now.

I know. It's because of all the fucking, all the environments. You jump got rid of the engines, the engines start, you know how when you start. Oh, yeah. He got rid of that. That's good. Yeah. That's, I don't like that. And I don't like that. And some cars, I have to press the don't do that. And every red light, don't do that. Don't do that. Hey, it's fucking stupid. You're not saving anything. All you're doing is cooking my starter. Yeah. Because the starter's got to start. How crazy. It trumpets like

“I'm getting rid of that. I'm so annoying. Parking next to one of these. Ooh. Danger. Is that a Mazurani?”

Those are cool in person. They're really nice. Ooh. Those are good. That's a beautiful car. Once you get one, I'm Jamie. Well, what's up? I don't know. I'm just worried about the attention. I just had a tire problem for letting go that far. The model S tires just fell apart after 10,000 miles. I know. That was weird. The way your tires fell apart was weird. I didn't make any sense because he said he had a flat tire and then he got to look at it and it was like,

there's the wires around. He'd worn down the the tread at 10,000 miles. Well, that's the problem with electric cars. So they're so heavy. So you're going through tires faster. But I didn't think it would be that fast. I mean, you might be driving like a maniac. I bet he is. Yeah. It's going so wide. You know, ratchet. You got to be to wear down to the wire. I think it's the weight. Yes. Because we looked it up and it was like 15,000 miles. So he's just a little bit

more lead for a little more lead for Jamie. That's a sign to get out of them. As he gets older, we'll stop our own lead foot Jamie. These are dope. Austin Martin's are dope.

“Wow. Yeah. That's how we're talking. Come on, Jamie. I don't know. I mean, you know some good”

shit. I just don't like black. Okay. Okay. You don't like Cadillac. Okay. That's a Martin's fun again. Awesome. Okay. It's fine. Everybody else. Different taste. That's fine. So as you like that, you're like something. Dude, I'll go on Facebook Marketplace for you. We'll get you a track Cox. We'll get you asked to Martin get something. We got to get him something fun. Let's know the budget to see if it seems a little hesitant. Yeah, but he does seem open to it. Yeah.

Well, you drove race cars before. We're on the track. That's fun. That's, I do that all the time. But you could buy a car that you can drive. We're going to have a studio at the track. We're not driving your own race car. That's true. It's not where you're going to fucking out. That's a good point. So your show's on to be show to be Gearhead's gun wild. There's four episodes. And you release a new one's can binge watch all four of them right now. And then if the

four do well, they're going to order a bunch more. And that's where I do Hennessey gun words. I got some and how long are each show? I think they're like 28 minutes each. Yeah. Okay. Cool. And it's Gearhead's gun wild. Yes, they're on to be. To be. Yep. Because when I do the first time I ever go to two be. I've

never been a two be. Please do. I don't want to hurt about it like a year ago. I just found out about

it three months ago. I just can't believe it is that many fucking when they're like we got a buyer and a two be. I'm like, okay. That's what I can do. They've been awesome. That's great.

But it sounds awesome. Dude. That's why I'm glad you're doing something. You enjoy.

“Yeah, I love it. Yeah, of course. It's our shit. All right, brother. You'll love it, man.”

Thanks for doing this. I love you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Goodbye, everybody. See you.

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