Meghan Markle Gets SNUBBED, Brad Pitt and Jen Aniston Reunite, & Perez Hilton’s Dark Decline

get to. I am coming to you once again from my metaphorical resting place. I am in convalescence

“so but I still wanted to show up with some red lipstick and some good jewelry. Okay, we”

are going to begin with the latest on two major stories that we were not able to address last week because we had pre-taped so that I could get some vocal rest. It turns out I have bronchitis. So that's that. We missed and we're unable to get to the two stories we're going to do today. Press Hilton and Ariana Grande. The plus though is that we're going to go deeper on both of these stories because we had so much more time to really think about

what they're saying. These aren't just as we're going to discuss with Rob, Shooter. These aren't

“just gossip stories. These stories are telling us a lot about where we're at and what's broken”

in the culture and what needs real fixing and like a real real reckoning. We've also got more coming out of Camp Sussex. We've got an update on another former a-list power couple that is rumored to be rekindling in some way. This reporting is from the Daily Mail. It is solid. It is explosive and let's just say that Jim Curtis might want to be looking for some yellow butterflies right about now. Then of course, we have trouble making our art, trouble making

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but nice sub-stack is a must subscribe. I am an avid, happy subscriber. Welcome back Rob. Thank you very much. That's awfully sweet. It's lovely isn't it? We both have sub-stack so it's so much fun each day talking directly to everybody out there. So thank you for that. Thank you. 100%. Now, we were not able due to my summer illness to get to two of the biggest

“stories of last week and Rob. I really think that both of these stories transcend what would”

be dismissed usually in the culture as just gossip. It's just pop culture, minutia. I think these stories tell us a lot about where we're at as a culture, as a society. Number one, Perez Hilton who attempted it seems now that reporting is to in fact take his own life

during a live stream on TikTok and we'll talk about that just that part of it. First responders

this is really, I mean, I've not seen this anywhere, Perez Hilton's mother and sister to seek custody of his three children who we now know were inside the home before the live stream began. Your reporting sources say the children were quickly removed once relatives realized. Perez was experiencing what you could gently call a severe mental health crisis. Another source telling

“naughty but nice what those children experienced was deeply traumatic. What do you know, Rob?”

Yeah, this is heartbreaking. So just this background here. Morey, I'm known him for about 25 years. I knew him when he was a Mario. He was a lowly editor-systems at Star magazine. Really? Full of days, body full of... Yeah, I remember. I know Bonnie a little bit. I had lunch with her at that point and she, but I did not know that Perez had tried to make it in the mainstream of tabloid journalism and it seems as though he went on his own in the digital lane because he got

he couldn't hack it or he got flushed out. He wasn't a very popular guy, he was an odd guy,

he was socially awkward. I was always very kind to him when I bumped into him and we started a

little bit of a friendship. He didn't really have any friends and I think in life, I've noticed this a

“lot including with celebrities. Misfits start their own businesses and thank goodness they do because”

they changed the culture. I've worked in the mainstream for a really long time but I never really figured it in. So it was an odd fella in those very, very boring companies. Bonnie Fuller is a great example. She's an odd duck too, that's part of her genius and so Perez started his first website. His first blog was Page 666 Clever. That's right. And then he had the T-shirts and the New York Post sued him. And those T-shirts became something of a collectible. I wish I

still had one. He actually gave me what, Britney Spears will one, one side of red topics they sued him and then he started Perez Hilton. Now at the time, I was representing Paris Hilton and so we spoke a lot. She got it immediately. She got her flattering, it was, there was no lawsuits. She was really cool that somebody would be out there using her last name, pretending, you know, in a cheeky way to

be a relation. And so I've known him from the beginning when he first started, I still need my

PR days, but I had some pretty big stars I had Jenny for Lopez and Alicia Keys, Jessica Simpson, and so I was working with some big celebrities and I within six months had figured out. When a story broke on Perez, it got more attention than he felt broke anywhere else. Why do you think that was, Rob? Because we would not yet had any social media. So you couldn't go and scroll through TikTok. You couldn't scroll through Instagram and the websites at these magazines. I was the

executive editor of OK with a dumping ground for the stories that weren't good enough to be in the print. So we still was that part of the culture. It's the early 2000s where the magazine, the newspaper, the print, that was the, that was the whole Ancelada. That was the big deal. If we got a great story, we put it in the print and we hoped and prayed. It would last. It would hold for a week until we went to press. Perez blew that up. He just broke news as it happened once again. Do you think

he was like the drugs, the equivalent of drugs? He was like, you're saying it's so true. I remember this was, I'm going to say 2005. So this was when tabloid print media still had a real strangle hole in the library news, right? It was the cover of Us Weekly with Brad and Angie on the beach with a toddler Maddox that, which Angie set up, which broke the story that it was all the rumors were true. They were together. And in the, in the following, in the that any fair profile of Jennifer Aniston to

“follow, she and Courtney Cox both said, that's how they found out with the rest of us through the”

cover of Us Weekly. So that goes to show you just how strong that entertainment industrial complex

was. And alarm comes this rogue actor who first names his website after the devil. And then

does a play on Parrot Selten's name and sort of just blows all that up. And suddenly, God's like we're having a real conversation now. And he's going against the tide, mean to be sure, vulgar to be sure. Absolutely. Did he change everything he did? Yeah, he did. And that's why I took my hat to him. He created the culture that we live in now. He really, really did. That was right. There was a time in the early 2000s where every Wednesday, everybody in New York and L.A.

the time. And on Wednesday, she would set an alarm early in L.A. And there was one place in L.A.

“I think it was on sunset that put out a weekly and in touch and life in style at 5 a.m.”

There was a line of celebrities just lining up with the limos to get there was there's a magazine. This is, I think, also such a tad bit just to stop for a moment. There's a misconception because

this is the way it's always fun. The gossip at this stuff is like just to keep us peons like

seated and happy and distracted from real stuff. No, no, no, no, no. The celebrities and their machines, you know, who else was an avid reader of every tabloid that was published the inquiry. Jackie O. Jackie worked in book publishing every week. She read those tabloids. She would open it up in her housekeeper said Jackie would say of herself, let's see what she's doing this week. I used to work for Kate Spade, who is kind of a classy act, make sure resting piece. I was

traveling with Kate once and we're at the airport and she went into the Hudson news stand and she bought herself a copy of Vogue and then on the plane she was giggling. I was sitting next to her and I could hear a giggling. I thought, what is so funny in Vogue? She had a national inquire, a slipped in between and she didn't want anybody to see her read it the choir, but she giggled, a thoroughly enjoyed it, the whole flight. It was like a guilty pleasure. It was almost

like a college newspaper. This was before Facebook, this was before Instagram and so Perez blew that up to the point where a sweetly tried to buy Perez Hilton. They tried to... I didn't know that. Try to buy that website. They said when our media still went immediately. So young winners, media empire rolling stone and set her a try to buy Perez. What went down with that? Why did that happen? He had so much belief in himself. He said no. What he also did to that I thought was

extraordinary is the work ethic and you and me a big at this because we both work our tails off. So many people won a run a hip website. So many people want to have a hip podcast. They don't want to do the work. He did the work. If you text it him, a tip, he'd get back to you in 10 minutes. If you sent him a source, he photographed. You saw he would post it within 15 minutes. He worked constantly. I don't think he ever slept and he did all this at a coffee shop. He had no

overheads. He sat in a coffee shop in Los Angeles for 12 hours a day just churning out this content

that was mean, that was vulgar, that was nasty, that was correct. He always broke the story.

“There's some examples too. I think he said Castro had died and everybody jumped on that.”

We all make mistakes. As reporters, we all get bad tips. We all... It's part of being a human being. He doesn't make you a bad reporter. But he changed the business. He literally turned it upside down and then he didn't evolve. We had to evolve on TikTok. You were doing videos. We're doing YouTube. You've got to evolve. He stopped and that's when things started to go. Not well for him. For a minute, he was the king of the world. He was enjoying it. He loved being famous. We had the same

trade or even. We used to work out at the same gym and he lost a lot of weight. He started to try and look good. He had plugs put in. He had hair transplant, which he spoke about and he started to become

a celebrity in his own right and his sister and his family then basically ran the block.

And when she took him out of the mix, he didn't sell it to a big corporation like y'all mwena, but he withdrew to be his own star. And when she went and this is the tookover, terrific, which is not him. It just changed. I think, yeah, I want to talk a little bit about this because I think this is a larger story too about the way we consume information. You and I talk a lot about the death of celebrity culture and the ways in which we know this culture no longer

says, oh, if you're really rich in famous, Ola, Oprah, Winfrey, we trust you. You're a great person. In fact, we look a little bit deeper and say, who would you sell out to get there? What

“did you have to do to get there? With Perez, you know, the culture really did change. I think”

two things are key. He went from being an outsider wanting to be on the inside. He did. It's what killed the Howard Stern down. He went from being the outsider to wanting to be friends with all the alisters and on vacation in Mexico, Jennifer Aniston and the like Perez wanted to become one of the beautiful people. He was no longer on the outside number two. He his rise was concurrent with Gocker and Gocker stalker and Gocker was mean. Gocker was mean. Perez was mean. And now there's

certain like Hulk Hogan and Peter Teele killed Gocker and you know what, most people were ready for it to go. Yeah. It had outlived its usefulness. Nobody liked it anymore. And the same with Perez, it got stuck.

had it had a lot of potential, but it was run by juveniles. It had a juvenile mentality. I think that

“came from the top down. I think it came from that guy Nick Dintin. Yes, who was like one of the most”

powerful people in your media for a minute. Now he's gone. He's washed out with the tides just like

Shane Smith advice, you know, all these people. They're like gone. What do you think, Rob? If you could pinpoint a moment, what do you think killed all that stuff? Like what shifted in us? We killed it. And let me tell you the moment that I knew everything was changing. Your example with Gorker is genius. Your example with Perez is spot on. The one that changed the most quickly for me, the one that I noticed was American Idol. Simon Cow used to make fun of people that were clearly

disabled, but thought they were great singers. And we all laughed along. Well, I'm hung. Remember. And everybody in America was voting him in to keep him in another week to laugh at him. Yeah. Obviously something was happening for ten minutes. I was doing some publicity for him and he was on the today's show and he recorded that rickly Martin single that was all for but people booked him because it was just so I took him to people magazine to an editorial meeting.

He was clearly a person that that struggled and we were all laughing at him and it became too much

and we changed. The public change. It's never the outlet that changes the public. It's never the

media. You change us. We listen to people and what they want. And so American Idol, once they didn't fire Simon, but they just took it back as step. It was a brilliant business move of Paris never did that. Oh, can I just pick up on that thread the American Idol, which I also think is brilliant and did not occur to me. You're so right. Okay. After William hung comes Susan Boyle. A middle aged. She does not look like your typical showbiz Shantus. Okay. She's, you know,

there was something off about her too, right? She lived with like 80 cat something weird. They package her performance, whether it was America's Got Talent or whatever, Britain's Got Talent, watching Simon Cow nearly cropped. You know, it's Barnum and Bailey all over again. It's like PT Barnum, Simon Cow. But now we're in the field good business, right? We're in the field and I will

“also pause it. This is one of the other moments. I think things changed. Really changed. Brittany's”

meltdown when she shaved her head and started pounding the paparazzi car with her own umbrella. Like that wasn't funny. It wasn't rubber-necking time. It was like this woman is in crisis. And then when the cops were called to her house where she would see it locked herself in the bathroom,

at least one of the children. And it has never, ever been confirmed or even put down in writing.

But the common belief has been just my interpretation of what went on there that it was so dire. She was in such crisis that she was threatening to kill herself in one of those things. And I also think that's when people were like, this isn't funny. It's so far. It's so funny. I'm at this as like adults. Yeah, what we're doing. And we can be scrappy. And we can be cheeky. And we can points out hypocrisy we must. But we don't have to be mean. Perez was mean. He's a mean chap.

I mean just to, just for people who weren't around when he was, he would call Jennifer Aniston, Terrible names make another for her looks, Jennifer Aniston. He would drop henesses on the faces of female celebrities, like a penis with like balls. Like it was very juvenile. And it was but he was getting tons of clicks and likes, you know. And the, and the notary was the more he was rewarded. He became very wealthy. He became very, very powerful. I was representing

Ashley Simpson at the time who had just bombed on SNL. It's in. Oh, she got an assistant. And she was,

“he was. I was worried for her. I remember being with her and she was crying because of something”

Perez had done. He called her Ashley, AWS, Ellie. Yeah, I was listening. And just when I put, but bully, I mean, she messed up. We all made fun of her. She messed up. She made fun of herself. Put every day. He kept going. Asked for her. I called him and I was like, please stop. She could do something really awful. She's in a really bad place. Well, you'd just, what was his response? Didn't care less. Left. What did he laugh? Left. Didn't care less. He's not a good person,

but he changed the business. And then the power went to his head. And then the money went to his head. And then what turned for him is that the traffic started to drop. And when the traffic drops, the money drops. And when the money drops, the power drops. And you said a minute ago, he would now thought of himself as an insider. He wanted to hang out with celebrities. He wanted to be

help them. And what's the actual longer transactional? They dumped him. Lady Gaga. I heard of Lady Gaga because of Perez Hilton. The first time I heard of Katy Perry was because of Perez Hilton. He knew he had a finger on the pulse. He knew what was going to pop. He made a lot of it. I kind of cultivate him. I thought they're two of their friends. They hung out together. She was struggling. She first figured out, I don't need to delve on the tonight tonight. Show and sing a song.

I need to get on Perez. And she would leak him her videos. She broke her music videos. Not on MTV.

On Perez. And millions and millions and people would watch it. But they never were your friends.

“And I think I've got to say this so many times to people that work in this business. They are not”

your friends. The reason celebrities are, I don't have any celebrity friends. I know a lot of celebrities. I can text them when I do events or I want them to turn up at a book party. They come and I'm grateful for that. But they're not my real friends. They want me to talk about them. They want me to write nice things about them, to say nice things about them. And Perez got sucked into that. And then they dumped him. The minute his power, the minute his money disappeared. So did Perez.

And I think that's through my reporting. It is what really caused this breakdown, this meltdown. I think we can call it a suicide now because his family is going to suicide attempt. And so I think we can say it's an attempted suicide. But this is a guy who had everything and wanted more and didn't adapt. And the business went and all he had was the business. I'd love to say more in, that it had those three children. But he really didn't. His mother has raised them. His sister

has raised them. He's a difficult person. This is not the first time something like this has

happened. It's the most dramatic. Really serious. Really. He's been unstable. He's had mental health issues for a really long time. He recently found God. And now he's reading Bibles. He's looking for something. He's got demons. And anybody with demons, it's hard to be the child of somebody with those demons. I feel for the kids. Yeah. I do too. Another story that broke last week that I've been very interested to speak with you about your exclusive Ariana Grande's inner circle,

“quietly planning post tour help as health concerns grow now. I think this is a very important”

story. We discussed it on the nerve yesterday. Um, you know, this notion, well, should we be talking

about Ariana Grande's weight? Yeah, we should. This girl, this young woman, excuse me, looks like

she is near death. Now, you're reporting. I see this, I find not you're reporting alarming, but what these people in her camp are saying, you're your report, quote, they're looking at what comes next. The priority isn't another album, another movie or another show. It's Ariana. Everyone agrees. She needs time away from the spotlight. This is convenient timing because the culture exploded when that video dropped for pedal. And we saw she looks like a skeleton with skin just attached.

That's it. And you know, suddenly the team agrees that she should not be in the spotlight. Oh, and you know what we're going to do. We're going to wait till after the torch, which I say ask how Karen Carpenter turned out to be his Karen Carpenter 2.0. Rob, your thoughts. Yeah, it's heartbreaking. Anybody that has seen Ariana Grande recently. And I want to say recently, I mean in the last six months, I saw her at the wicked premiere. I was invited to see wicked,

and she was there. I gasped. Everybody can see and nobody is saying it. Everybody must know. It really means making money. She's a fucking money maker. She's making lots and lots of money for a lot

“of a lot of people. Yeah. But herself for a lot of money. That's what everybody around her”

makes more money, pays their mortgages when she's working. When she's not working the cash cow, it stops with every careful here because I think it's got to the point where they could literally kill the cash cow. They need to now to get her well, and I want to believe. I do want to believe that they're doing it all for the right reasons. I think it's a little bit late. I want to believe that they love her, that they will protect her, that they will care about her because that's what

she needs right now. She doesn't need somebody else trying to make 10-20% of her. She doesn't need another movie. She has a movie coming out in November. She can take a long time on. We saw it on the wicked to her. She works extraordinary hard. She has a number one album at the moment. It's all just too much and to step away from the spotlight. I'm glad it's happening. Once again, I think

is that in the nick of time we're finally talking about this, and I wanted to go and find

find that piece. My report is very careful because I don't say it's a rehab. I don't say it's an eating facility. I hear it's a place. All sources would tell me, is that it's a place for her to finally find some some piece, some happiness. It's long overdue. It might feel like a spa or a retreat,

“but it's not that. I'm told it's a serious place that they're talking to. I think, I think”

they've caught this in the nick of time, Karen. I hope this girl has a doctor traveling with her on this tour. I hope to God. She has a nutritionist. I hope to God. They're at least getting her nutrition through IV bags. This kind of underweight. I speak as someone who had an eating disorder in my

early 20s. This stuff, this gives you heart attacks. This causes people to drop dead. There's no

way she's maintaining the energy level needed to perform. Even Harry Styles is struggling on tour. That guy's in his 30s and a marathon runner. He's struggling on tour. You're telling me an underfed girl who is clearly suffering from an eating disorder. I'm sorry. She is. Has the energy to get on stage night after night without the use of drugs? Are you kidding me? Just my opinion. It's heartbreaking. I'm sorry to hear about your eating disorder tomorrow, but a lot of people

have suffered. I've had family members. It's not common for people to talk about it. So I tip

“my hat to you for doing that. It's out there. That's my biggest fear about Ariana. I think”

she's going to be okay. I think she has the money and the power and the access to great professionals.

I think that's going to happen. My fear is the hundreds of millions of young people that follow her online. The hundreds of thousands of people that are going to see her on stage. What she looks like is alarming. If it looks bad in photographs, let me tell you because I've seen it. It is worse. Yes. The camera does out 10 pounds. The camera adds 10 pounds, which is why I look fabulous in person. No, I look fine. No, you are. You look great in both. I can't pass. I don't know.

I'm glad she's getting this help and I hope afterwards she talks about it because I think that could be part of her legacy. If she actually talks about this, instead of selling girls perfume and albums and tour tickets, all of which are fantastic. Nobody's her albums are great. I love

“it. Very talented young woman. Very talented talent would be taking this on. I think her biggest”

talent is after she's out of the words after she's doing after she's got through this. I hope she talks about it. I do too. And you know what else I hope Rob? I hope she just doesn't talk about it as a personal experience. I hope she talks about what the machinery does to people like her. A woman who has been a child star and has been in the machine and has doubtlessly been supporting everybody in her life. And you know, is probably being told, you can't take time off.

Because you're on top of the world right now. And you know what happens when you take time off? Somebody else comes in. You know who did it at the height, at the height, at the height of her star. And she does the fucking fine. Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts. He disappeared. There were lots of rumors as to why she was on top of the fucking world. She disappeared for a good two years. Yeah, the Wizard of Oz also referenced his obviously strong care. But mindset is saying she's

at generations Judy Garland. She works and works. She's a child, child actress. And she's we don't know what she's doing to put on those shows. But I would imagine pills are involved like they were with Judy. Let me remind everybody the end of the Judy Garland life movie is not a good ending. She didn't fly back over the rainbow. She died at an early age. Ariana needs to get help now. And I'm glad she is. A lot of skin care brands promise you the impossible. One skin takes a

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Martha Stewart enters the chat. Okay. First, before we get to that, I got to show you this,

I don't know if this was in your feed over the weekend. It was sure in mind, the algorithm knows, Meghan Markle publicly snubbed by David Foster. Let's look at this. David Foster, who Harry has said is a father for him. David Foster's event, and he walked. He just dices her. He blanks her. Harry, let's it happen. I mean, this thing is slowed down like the Zapruder film, the violence here is on a magical and then Harry and David shot a little bit literally behind the backs of their

wives. So I love it, Rob, just give us your take on that. First of all, that video I've watched a thousand times. It's conscious they know what they do, they're on the red carpet. Hollywood, let me cut the chase. The sick of her. Hollywood is sick of Meghan Markle. They still have some funness to Harry. He's still his princess Diana's son. There's a cheekiness to about Harry. He does have quite a great sense of humor when he was in prison. You love him, Rob. I don't

“hate it. You can't, you don't deny it. I think the troublemakers are like, what's going on?”

It's Rob, I'm sorry. I love the Harry that we don't get anymore, but he was my favorite royal ten years ago. Are you as many people's favorite royal? Well, you know, when it falls by the princess of London, it was just some sloppy. It was like Princess Margaret. Oh, it was a mess.

And I used to always get a good chuckle. Louise, my favorite. Now, just that naughty little boy,

Louie, I love him. So Harry still has some affection towards him. Hollywood Meghan does not. They don't like her. They tolerated her. They pretended to tolerate her in the beginning and now she's intolerable. They just don't want her. And to think that of all the people, but she's decided now to pick a fight with its Martha Stewart, who Hollywood does like. They think Martha's ridiculous, but she's it on the joke. I interviewed Martha. I knew

somebody very high at Martha's company who asked me if I'd come in and be the head of Martha's communication team. And so I had to interview with Martha. I didn't ultimately take the job. I'm not even sure if I was offered it. But it was one of the most funniest hours of my life. What was it like? She was ridiculous, but she was funny. She was camping. She was wings. She used the word disgusting. When she didn't like anybody or she didn't like anything that was happening disgusting was her

word. She was, she was grand-dumb. She was anti-mayan. That's who she's anti-mayan. Now I understand she don't have to like Martha Stewart. A lot of people don't, but she's not a liar. And she's certainly is not confused. And for Meghan's people to to bounce back. So just to set this up, Martha claimed on the cover of People magazine, which makes me chuckle too because there's a people angle here. Yes, but there's on the cover of People magazine. She's their cover girl.

She recreates a photograph she did 40 years ago, where she's holding a chicken. Only Martha would think that's funny. It is funny. And so Martha's on the cover of People magazine with a favorite chicken. And she had to do it interview if you do a cover shoot from People. They also want an interview. So they do an interview. They don't ask Martha about Meghan because it's a very soft magazine. They don't. And People is kept. Sussexes, preferred swap box. So they're very, very careful.

They don't bother talking about it. Like if I had to be at Martha or Gwen Earth or anybody who had their own lifestyle brand, I'd ask about Meghan. Of course I would. They didn't ask Martha brought up Meghan. And so I didn't believe in the interview. Martha said I said it in the party. In

California and Meghan Markle was there. And Martha basically said she was gossiping about her recent

“visit. Yes, the king said that. Yes, and this is also why I believe Martha. First of all,”

I do think she's a truth teller. Number two, she said. She made a point to say, listen, it's all like I would see to next her. I saw like we even like talk to each other that much.

enough about it. Or everybody was like, can you believe this trick over here's talking about the

“one thing? The family said he quiet about it. And then I just want to also look at this distillation”

Martha Stewart distilled this down to its essence. And this is why she's genius. This is why she inhabits all of the space is making the screens of inhabiting from domestic guru, whatever lifestyle branding to entertainment. There she is. She understands how the machine works. Here's Martha on why Meghan isn't working in the culture. Here we go. If you're an actress, it's hard to then transition to a princess. And then from a princess into a whole making guru on a television show,

it doesn't sort of follow. So go from there. She just so so so so so Rob. She just she made it so clear.

Okay, like, here's the line. We're starting out as an actress on a basic cable show. We're down here.

Then we zoom up to British royalty. We're a Duchess. We're royal. Now we want to zoom down

“to try to struggle our way through decanting pretzels on Netflix. It doesn't none of it adds up, right?”

Martha's thinking about the old thinking. And she put it in such a good size way. It's absolutely wizardry. It's a mauve as some of this up. Now, the marco people were horrified by this story. And said they went running to their mouth peacefully. I've let that really sort of works for them. Give them privacy. But people sometimes be a dial. We're talking right away. They ran to people by the sea. And the people had a dilemma. Because mauve as they cover girls.

They couldn't call their cover girl a liar. And say that they're reporting. But they did want to

upset the Sussexes because that's who they have decided they're going to hitch their bread to. So the internal politics that people, like I said, that weekend must have been delicious. But now my report is that Martha worked back to her and Martha said, I said, what I said? No. There's not going to be no. Oh, maybe I got it wrong. Maybe she doesn't like the word confused because there's a little bit of ageism in that too. That was so shady. I shouldn't. Martha must have been

confused. You know, she did all hope to have as much on the fall at 85 years old. Exactly. That's Martha's daughter. Martha's shop. Martha's shop for the day. Last time I saw her at the event in New York. We're chatting for 30 seconds. She's with it. She is sharp. And she's funny. And she can be a little bit scared. I love it. I'd team Martha all the way. Megan's picked the wrong person. People don't. There's some people out there who don't

like Martha, but not one person I know. Thanks, Martha's a liar. Martha's testing it as it is. Martha went to jail. Martha's got Fred. My Martha's driver is gangster. Megan, you are messing with the wrong person. She should have said, Martha was right. I was at the dinner party and I didn't mention. I just returned from London. I know in any little chat. But to pretend that she didn't do this, now we have a credibility debate and let me remind everybody. Megan has a long history

of saying stuff that just wasn't true. Remember when she said that the royal took her passport, they didn't. She remember when she said that Harry and she were secretly married before the big wedding in the backyard in the audition. That's a lie. I see it so much trouble if I did that. Oh, and of course the royals of racist. Oh, and I was right. And I gave birth to at least one of

“those kids. Her lady's see. Okay. So, now the judge is so much for I was told to, which I think is”

such good scoop. But when Gwyneth had upset Megan, Megan called Gwyneth, and do you remember they made a video together? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, nothing was said. They didn't speak a word. She looks in the camera. Gwyneth, I remember and says, oh, there's some room at that. I don't like, Megan, Markle, and then she just zooms to the left and they can sit next to her having a cup of tea. She does make and does this really exaggerated like, yes, she does a very much.

She's such a terrible actress. She can't even like bring it down. I think she would love to do something like that with Martha. Martha is not having it. She will not play. She's not doing this. She's not back and down. And Martha's moved on to day. She started her pig. She's moved on. Love it. Now, you've another exclusive Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, considering issuing a public apology to King Charles. You've got multiple sources on this and that it's looking likely because

they really need to get back in. Your source, this isn't about Harry and Megan admitting they were

enormous pain. That's very passive language. In my opinion, the debate now is over what an apology should say and just as importantly what it shouldn't. And Rob, I have to say, I find this timing highly,

highly suspect. The money is dry. Harry has lost a $63 million lawsuit against the publisher

of the Daily Mail. He's in for even more damages when he is ruled what he has to pay in legal fees for the defense. I just find this all too well timed. You're right. There's no coincidence here. They, if they, if their businesses had succeeded, if a podcast had succeeded if a TV show a Netflix deal, they would not be even considering this. They're desperate. And she has realized

“Harry has realized that the only thing that makes them interesting is their association to the royal”

family. And the only way they can get that back is by saying sorry is by doing something, turning up in Britain for the Invictus Games and having tea with your dad is one thing, it ain't a sorry. And so they, they figured out that the only chance they have. And I do believe there is a chance. If they really mean it and we believe they really mean it. You think they really don't think they do. I don't think they do. But if they, if they convince us that they need it.

And there's that, that I'm to convince everybody. But if they can convince my mom, who is a royalist, who loves the royal family, if they can convince my cousins, then that's the type of people that I think they have to start to win over. And so they're going to, they're going to do this. It's multiple sources. It's not if this is going to happen. It's when it's going to happen. But once it's not going to be a real part of this, I want to ask you, do you think part of this has to

do with the front page of the, the cover of the inquire this week is Megan's vulgar act at Diana's grave. And the reporting within has not just William outraged, but the king outraged by what Megan pulled in photographing the children, what in what looked like on their way to visit the grave. And that to me also, the timing of this announcement that there might be an apology coming,

“that's what this feels like. It's like, she realizes, oh, now I've really gone too far. I did a lot,”

but this, this is too far. Yeah, nobody puts the pieces together like you. You're like sure, like homes of this. You really pop them together. Well, by one, that cover of the inquire is genius.

And I always go to the inquire when I want to get the truth. It is so true that the person

that they upset here was the king. And he said, "Big is supporter." He's the one that's the biggest softly around them, not William. The king really wants to believe the best out of them, even though they keep biting him, even though they keep betraying him. Thank you, Master Stuart. Even though they keep pushing back, he wants to believe them. I know this from all my sources. In the palace, in fact, I'm told Camilla is currently on vacation. He's up in Belmoral. They don't

often vacation together. I think she's in Greece with some of her friends. Palace Insiders think this is the week that they might make a move because he's very vulnerable because the queen's not there to stop it. Very smart. And so that there's an extra layer around the king,

not because of physical protection. There's always that around him. But because this is the

week with the queen away, if the cats are away, the mouse and the mouse here is Harry. He will play. They think that they will be able to appeal. I don't want to say it was ego because that's not true. They'll appeal to his better angels. The king wants peace. And if they say we made a mistake, they're never going to apologize for calling them racist. They're never going to apologize for some of the awful accusations that we saw happen in the book on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

But they will apologize for where we are, where we are. I think the apology will be like,

“we're sorry if you misinterpret it. That's what it's going to be. It's going to be the real”

housewives apology. Sorry, you're so thick that you misunderstood what we said. If I heard anybody's feelings, that that wasn't my intention to hurt anybody's feelings. It's not apology. It's not apology. It's not apology. It's not apology. It's not okay. I want to move on because this story I love love love another complicated couple, Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston, a daily male plus. Who said Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt secretly, quote, talking again, intimate

details of weekly trailer, quote, lunch dates private visits to her home, and who made the first move published August 10th by Emma Powell, Russ Weekland and Terry Zeller. They did more since 2005, very acrimonious. He fucking humiliated her with Angelina Jolie, humiliated her then spread the Pitt's camp. I remember this. I was at the New York Post. His camp was spreading yet no choice,

She is later said she tried to get pregnant. It was reported. She or rumored rather that she had

had at least one miscarriage while married to Pitt. So I really, I always thought that was really

shitty of him. Then they reunited during the saga words of 2020, which I always found cynical on Brad's part as well, because he was really, he was really pounding that fucking pavement. He wanted that one. He wanted that one. He wanted time. He needed Jen. He was well loved and Hollywood to give him her blessing to get that fucking Oscar. And now the reporting that the Daily Mail has is that he's showing up once a week on the set of her terrible show on Apple,

the morning show. And they're having lunch in her trailer once a week. And he's visiting her. I don't like, what's going on with you? And what would Jim Curtis be? Is Jim Curtis just looking

for yellow butterflies to make Brad disappear? What's going on? Something's going on with Brad.

He's on the cover of Esquire Magazine. Yes. Well, he talks about drinking again. Yes. He's now drinking again. It's a very revealing interview. It's an interview that Brad would

“not have given 10 years ago. I think Brad is getting sick of the BS. And now I think we're going to”

find a lot more information about Brad. And I'm for it. That reporting in the Daily Mail, it's my favorite favorite story of the week so far. I devoured it. And I encourage everybody listening to do the same. It's extraordinary. I believe every word of it. I hope it's not cynical because Jen loves Brad Pitt. Jen is all I'm not convinced she's ever got over. I agree with you. He's moved on.

And it feels a little bit like he's playing with her. I hope he's not. I hope he's not. I hope he's not.

I don't know. I don't get yet. But the pieces are coming together. You know like when we put together a jixel puzzle and we can't see the picture. But we can start to see little corners. I've got a corner down here. I've got a corner up there. I've got a few pieces in the middle. I don't see the full picture. I think he wants to. I know for a fact that he was really angry with the stories about him being about dad. I know that every single kid is dropping his picture. Every single kid.

Very popular. That to him. It is tough. I know when Jen famously said he had a sense of

“energy chip missing that. That hurt too. I think it's struck a nerve with him. It hurts if it's”

ever true. It doesn't take somebody say something. He's not true. So I think and I'd like to believe. I don't have any reporting on this, but I'd like to believe. There's a lot of guilt. What he did to her. We're allowed to fall out of love. We are. We're allowed to end relationships. The way he went about it, what he did. An angelina is part of this story too and she's not innocent here. But you can't just keep playing the women. He was part of this. He was the connection between

this and this. You're a point. This was again at the height of us weekly. There were photos of them taken on vacation. So we know they were set up. Brad and Jen were on a beach vacation with Courtney Cox and her then has been David Arquette. And the photos from that vacation were Brad and Jen strolling on the beach. His arm around her. He was wearing a shirt that said trash on it. Everybody thought he was saying the tabloids are trash and all the rumors that my marriage to

Jen is in trouble are a lie. Look at us here. We later learned he flew off by himself after that vacation and went to Angie and Jen was that that was their breakup. That was their breakup vacation. I was the publicist for a weekly at the time that those pictures broke. You're like the zealig of American pop culture. So as in the office. Jadda's been mostly editor-in-chief. Love Jadda. What is genius? Genius. I can absolutely confirm

those pictures were staged. Those pictures were not beating war pictures. They were us weekly.

“So a weekly had a photographer on assignment at this very, very deserted place. I believe in Africa.”

It was not. Oh, wait, you're talking about Angie and Brad on the beach with Maddox. Oh, yes, go on go on. Those pictures were so staged. They were not caught by a paparazzi and then sold to the highest bidder. They would have gone for millions back then. And people magazine probably would have at bid everybody and bought them. This was a staged shoot. And staged so that outlet us weekly gives them a sympathetic right up. That's right. It was a nice glowing story because

they didn't need even a story. They just, you know, I remember saying to Janice, these pictures you don't even even any headlines that picture alone. It was one of the highest selling magazines in the history of us weekly. And the way that Brad handled all this. And he was with her kid. Maddox.

And on that cover, they're playing happy families. Oh, it is a bourbon backyard tableau. And

she's on a recliner, Brad's knelt down with like five little blonde children. And it's basically

“saying, look, man, I just want a family. That's what it's like. America's favorite friend won't”

give it to me. So what choice do I have? And it worked. So some degrees, it worked. And now it doesn't. And so maybe he's going back to fix that. I hope so. I hope he's not going to go back and play with her emotions because I really believe that Jen would dump Jim Curtis in a second and run back with Brad. I hope that sensitivity chip that she exposed. Good for you, Jen. I hope that is healed. I hope it's been fixed. I hope he went to the genius bar at the Apple Store and got that

fixed immediately because it's certainly something that we've seen. The insensitivity, once again, couple fall out. It's not that the laughter. It was the way in which he did it. He did it. He took it to cut and to slice and to just demean her in the public square. And you know, Angie's the fucking most beautiful movie star of the moment on the planet. And Jen's just like cute little, you know what I mean? He did, he did all of it to her. I don't get it. And I wonder to

before we wrap up, this has been such a meaty, meaty, meaty segment with Europe. I wonder about the admission, the, the unprompted I think in this Esquire thing because these celebrities set their rules before this ever happens. Why is he telling us he's drinking again? Because I remember when he did

this with Esquire, when he first, after the plane incident, I think before the details came out,

nobody knew what went down on that plane. So it was a mystery. Angie, it just like, it was like, I'm sure you remember where you were when the, when the TMZ report came up on your phone, Angelina Jolie files for divorce. I mean, in newsrooms across America, it was like, get the fucking hear man, you know. But so he went to Esquire and he did like a whole like Mayo Culpa and he said, you know, I'm an alcoholic. And I've been pounding vodka and I wasn't

“present and I've gone to rehab and all of this stuff and I'll never forget. I sat next to page six”

and I asked one of the lead reporters on page six, what's going on with this? What's your theory as to why Brad Pitt is doing this? And he was kind of like, I don't know, maybe he's getting in front of something. And and Brad's image to that point had been like Mr. All-American good guy, right? Just a guy from Missouri who got lucky guy. He uncomplicated, you know, they'll do it, but nice guy. But now we know there are many layers complicated guy, very complicated guy and I'm wondering if here to

he's trying to get ahead of something. Why admit that you're drinking again? It's a great question Mike's experience in PR tells me you're absolutely right. This is not a coincidence. If we caught Brad having a drink at the Four Seasons hotel, then that is breaking new as he told Esquire. Yes. This was set up. He had a bottle of wine. He poured the reporter a glass of wine.

“Wow. That's how drinking came up. It was Brad's action. So it just wasn't the same thing.”

Continuous. So he's drinking him up. I mean, you know, what else he says in that piece is like now I've had some moments where and he used the same word he used in his confession to be in alcohol. In his original confession to Esquire, he said I became a professional at drinking vodka. That's the code. That's the code. In this confession, he says to the reporter, I have to be more professional about the way I drink because I've had a few instances since coming off the wagon where I overdid it.

And so now I really like, you know, it means he got trashed. He got trashed. That's the code. Yeah, shit face blackout water. He's done it in public. The pictures are somewhere. He did something inappropriate, perhaps. Well, drunk, has he cheated on the girlfriend? Right. You know, the otherwise mute girlfriend opposite. And Esquire piece is not attached to a project. I don't think Brad that's right. He's not in the Odyssey. He's not in he did Troy, but he's not, you know,

why is he doing this? Why is he didn't I remember? He did the interview in the photo shoot three months ago. So start looking what happened three months ago. Right. It's a long lead publication. Long lead people forget that. Don't they? It's not two weeks away. That's a long lead. In today's world, the pace that he made. Yeah, 24 hours is a long time. Three months. What do he do? Three months

ago that made then decide to go. And that guy has his crisis managers are non-prail. I'll never

forget. I went down to New Orleans when he, when he was getting sued, make it right was getting

those houses and interviewed those people and went into their homes. And first of all, I mean,

“these houses look like you're like, this is a house, like, Brad, the architect, you know,”

and they're literally falling apart and Brad Pitt, like, cut and ran. You know, you can walk by the office space they abandoned. It's like, I'm seeing everybody fled in the dead of night. You can still see the Starbucks cups that have been abandoned. And so I obviously we called Brad to get comment. And his publicist called me in the middle. He was like, I got a next game in the middle of the night. You know, and he was like, really trying to contain and drive what I was

writing. You know, and I was like, can you just give me a straight answer? Yeah. But so these people, like, this is, this is, this is by committee, right? Brad doesn't just decide to do this on his own.

“He's done by committee. Yes. Protect brand, Pitt. Exactly right. And we will find that sooner than”

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“which I think is going to have a very long tail, and we will probably be revisiting this topic.”

A trouble maker sent this new idea, the Australian magazine, published a piece on the gruesome toism, and credited the nerve. Our beloved Australia and Australian media has credited the nerve published August 3rd things have gone from bad to worse for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex who have been rocked by hurtful cheating allegations. I don't know that hurtful is necessary there, new idea, but I-I-q-u-e-q-u-e-q-u. Lady Colin Campbell made the bombshell claims on the nerve

on July 23rd. Lady C has a long history of causing problems for the pair. I love it.

She's, Lady C, you know, amazing. And Megan, new idea reports is ready to fight back.

"From an insider, as a royal, Harry refuses to engage in this type of low-level gossip. Yes, Harry has classed." But this insider continues, it's just stressing for Megan, who wanted to shut down this woman's outrageous claims years ago, the timing the insider continues couldn't be worse. This story exploded right when they're trying to ingratiate themselves with the king. Things were already tense between Harry and Megan. After she posted those photos at all

forp, Harry's frustrations at her inability to understand how royal's work have reached, have reached, excuse me, fever, pitch. Nope, what's not in here. A denial. Far as we can tell, I mean, if there's further reporting in this piece that, like, we have not been exposed to in which a denial is issued, I would love to see it. Love to see it. Moving on to trouble maker feedback. This subject line, my Higgins, Deer Moring, and Mornalina.

Mornalina, I don't know that I would call her a dog lover. She's laughing out loud, but

I wanted to share a picture of my beloved Higgins. He sadly died on August 3rd, as he was accidentally hit by a car. I am so sorry. This is trouble maker, Libby. So, so sorry. It was a smart, happy one-and-a-half your old cockapoo that had a very charmed short life. He will be forever loved and missed. And, you know, I hope, Libby, that you can take solace in knowing what a good, happy life you gave him in the short time that he was on this earth. She says that the nerve has cheered her up

during this sad time. So, thank you. And, Libby, as you know, we're going to show Higgins here.

She sent a photo and what a beautiful boy. Beautiful, beautiful boy. Happy looking boy.

That is the highest praise we could ever receive at the nerve. We hear it from people who are going through difficult times that the nerve is a distraction and makes you laugh and that is just the best, the best. Dear marine and team nerve, I am sure you're already aware of this, but Amanda Knox has decided to go ahead with an appearance at the Edinburgh festival fringe here in the UK. This is the same quote, "comedy routine," which the nerve covered in which Amanda

makes light of and even Knox, I agree with this interpretation of Amanda's routine,

“the brutal murder of Amanda's roommate, Meredith Karcher. The worst thing this troublemaker”

from London writes, I'll call you troublemaker D, is that Meredith's family have spoken out

publicly through Meredith's sister and asked Amanda not to do this. Amanda has not only doubled down on it, but she's still asking to meet with Meredith's family when they've made it clear they do not want to meet him. She is a goal. Amanda Knox is a fucking goal. I've said it before, there was a petition that was circulating to have Amanda show pulled. Listen, I am like a free speech absolutist, I really am. I also listen, a petition's free speech as well. Amanda will not take the

note. Amanda loves being famous and if she had to get famous because a girl was savagely sexually assaulted

“and stabbed to death, I think at least 21 times so be it. You know, and if her family is begging”

her through public channels to please stop using their sister and their daughters violent death as fodder for her fucking stand-up, her lame fucking stand-up. Amanda Knox does not have a decent phone in her body. I'm not saying she had anything to do with that crime. Although I've heard from many of you travel makers in Europe who say that the media coverage in Europe was vastly different from the media coverage in America and that many people in Europe still regard Amanda

with suspicion. And hey, that's your right. That's your opinion. That's your interpretation of what went down. But you know, when when you see somebody behave this way with absolute reptilian cold bloodiness, it does make one wonder. It makes me wonder. Just my opinion, just my opinion. TUN TUN a feedback to the Oprah Mini about Oprah's decision to close her leadership academy for girls and people magazine, squawk boxing for her that, you know, it's just time and Oprah can reach

many more girls by just cutting some checks for scholarships. Okay. I recall reading years ago about Oprah founding this academy in 2007, subsequent stories of possible abuse of some girls.

“I think it's I think it's clear that there was abuse there. Travel maker S in Selena's California”

writes Oprah had to have known what was happening. I agree. I agree. This travel maker continues if she didn't know. And I think that's a generous, generous supposition. Then she doesn't care about girls. She just wanted a project ding ding ding ding ding ding and/or and/or, you know, as she said in that AP interview, Oprah said, I'm in the valley building business, which implies currency, which implies money. And one of you troublemakers pointed out when we showed the real of Oprah

flanked by girls on both sides in green uniforms. And I said green is the color of life and rebirth

and all of that. And one of you said it's also money. And I was so pissed that I didn't make that observation in real time. You're so right, travel maker. It's also money. Do you know what I'm getting at? You know, a woman who's best friends who's very close, compatrails, were the likes of

“Harvey Weinstein and Sean Diddy Combs? Would you let your daughter near her?”

Sexual trafficking and abusive children is a warrant wherever it occurs, says travel maker S, mainstream media won't cover the closing of the school. Glad you were keeping it on the nerves monitor. Oh, you got it. It's not, we're not going to let go of this. Not going to let go of this.

Sorry, Jeff. Oprah Winfrey had her travel maker K. I've always been concerned about that school.

The recent shutting down of Oprah's most prized creation is nonetheless alarming. While it's most likely nothing, this is worth noting, I think, if I'm saying this correctly, varninging, varninging airport is approximately 10.5 kilometers away from the Oprah Winfrey leadership academy for girls. The driving distance comes out to roughly a 15 to 20 minute drive

“from the airport to the academy. This is a small airfield primarily used for light general aviation”

and private charter flights, and you know what you can get away with on private charter flights. I mean, just ask anyone who flew with Jeffrey Epstein. Oprah Winfrey Winfrey Winfrey Winfrey said she was in the quote value building business. The noticeable pause before she added quote for the girls said everything. She thought that school was going to bring her even more acclaimed and help her build her brand.

It's clear she didn't give a shit about those girls. Just as trouble makers opinion. In the AP interview, excuse me, it was obvious her mind was whirling as she was trying to describe the purpose of the quote institution. I agree. She was saying a lot of gobble the guck, a lot of nothing. Trouble maker continues. I can't believe a girl was able to walk around that 20 plus building campus nine months pregnant and nobody noticed or cared. Same

trouble maker, same. That was nine months of opportunity to tell Oprah that something was very, very wrong. This is an assumption trouble maker because I am going to push back on this observation a bit. There was clearly no process in place to keep her abreast of violations of her duty of care. Now, there also could have been a policy of blackout, like don't let the boss know what's going on because if she knows then she's in a complex after the fact or it could have been

that Oprah did know and really just didn't give a shit. I mean, again, as we discussed on the many within months of that school opening by October of that year, there were nine students who lodged complaints of sexual assault or abuse that's almost one for every month the school had been open. Here in New Zealand, we have a sad cult called Gloria Vale that has a history of this kind of

abuse. I hate how these quote safe environments always seem to be set up from the start to be havens

for abusers to do unspeakable things to innocent girls and by the way, more than one of you troublemakers reminded me of this and I forgot it, but there were reports throughout the years that once the girls were admitted to the academy, parents were told you can't have contact with them. That's not how this academy works. You can maybe visit or have contact once a month. Why? Why? If you're doing such great fucking work and changing the world and saving lives,

“wouldn't you want family members coming and going at will so they could go spread the good word?”

Travelmaker Mike continues, "Oper's power and influence is waning in the culture." Indeed, it is. She cannot control New Media, so I believe the truth will come out. The nerve is proof of that. You got it, my friend. You got it. Morine. The mini this week about Oprah was great. Thank you. But what really made it supply was the appearance of Jeff in the chat, who totally wasn't

defensive about everything. I doubt it was an underling because then she would have had to let it

“hasn't know how thin her skin really is. That's such a great theory of the case. It sounds like”

you struck a nerve. Please call me cute. You got it. Mo bro. Hey, listen, the other thing that occurred to us was that Jeff was so active in the live chat, top chat live chat as Andy Keywee loves to differentiate that we figured that they are Oprah Gale, what have you? They're watching the nerve, assiduously, and they're probably reading our sub-stack and subscribing to it because we teased that we were covering an a-list celebrity involved in what we believe is a major scandal

that is being completely ignored by the mainstream media. And if you think that targets on your back,

you know, you're getting in there right away. You know, it was before the nerve even went live! Anything happens to me. Oprah. Oprah. Dear Moring, Oprah is shutting her own so called Academy because the magnifying glass is on her and others like her. She does not want the truth getting out. This is just this Mo bro trouble maker's opinion he writes. Her school is a front for child trafficking. Is Interpol going to look into this? I mean it. I really do mean it.

Why all the mysteries surrounding this school? I thought Oprah was all about transparency.

“I thought Oprah was all about authenticity. Why is there such mysteries surrounding the school?”

Why is nobody allowed on this fucking grounds? Why? Moring, watching your mini this morning,

I was reminded of Oprah's days in Chicago, whereas you know her big show began in Chicago's West Loop sympathies to the beautiful city of Chicago. At the time, I worked for a program that raised funds for Catholic schools in the inner city. Bless you, trouble maker. Although most of the African-American students and Catholic schools were not Catholic themselves, the church kept them open because they were literally life-changing for any families, often single black moms who often

work two jobs to afford it. And as a product of 12 years of Catholic school, but most crucially,

“my four years of high school at a Catholic Academy that was so academically rigorous that you”

graduated truly without really needing to go to college. The college was just thinking you had to check off. We had several students and this is the thing I have a lot of issues with Catholic schools, but the thing I will say that I really admire about the Catholic school system is they are happy to have any student who just wants to learn and you do not have to be an adherent to the Catholic faith. They will not try to convert you. There's absolutely no pressure. Come as you are.

That is true, true, true, true. Continuing from the Chicago troublemakers email, the Archbishop at the time, Colonel Bernadin invited Oprah to his residence for dinner, again, just this troublemakers account, sounds legit to me, just saying, to speak to her about the possibility of Oprah making a contribution or helping in some other way. There were a lot of big donors who were not Catholic, but who were successful business people and relied on Catholic school

graduates in part because mismanaged public schools were not turning out educated people. Oprah declined to make a contribution. One person there told me she got, quote, oddly competitive with the cardal. During the conversation, again, all of her donation would have been earmarked for schools in the inner city, for scholarships and special programs. I know it is her money, and she can do what she pleases with it. But after all Chicago gave her,

I was shocked. She didn't make a small token gift to help black girls on Chicago south side, get an education. Hey, that's Oprah for you. Hi, Marine. I thank you to me and to Rob, a fan of Rob's book, it started with a whisper, not in Frank from Australia. I thought I'd send you a little photo of Frank who was clearly very invested in the nerve to Frank. I can tell you a good boy. Good boy with, I think, good taste. Frank wanted me to mention that if needed, he has got skills to help

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