- How fun I am.
- I'm so fine that I'm at the Shenyang Ocean.
- Oh, that's okay, it's all. - That's a name they is. - It's a name. - A name. - What's the name of who you from?
- My name is Oprah. (upbeat music)
“- Hello and welcome to your Friday edition”
of The Nerve. I am your host, Maureen Callan. We have a banger to ease you into your weekend. Happy Friday, we are going to start with the Duchess of Despair
and darkness, one Meghan Markle, who's got a new side hustle right away.
Netflix dumpster, she said, "Who needs ya?"
I got another gig, it's a girl's weekend. Because who doesn't think Meghan Markle when you think girls weekend, girls girl, fun, lighthearted, easy, breezy, a great conversationalist in Australia,
Australia, we love you at the Nerve. We have so many troublemakers in Australia and New Zealand, we are sorry. There are problem now, but they're coming your way and we are going to ask that any troublemaker
with means and/or access
“who is so inclined to try to infiltrate this event”
because we think it's another scam. She excels, it scams, just my opinion. It's called her best life retreat.
Because again, who isn't living her best life
is if it isn't Meghan Markle, who's been shit canned by Netflix, by Spotify, by Lemonata, by Penguin Random House, nothing is come to fruition. Nothing is working, guests can spend thousands of dollars. And you know what that gets you?
That gets you in the same mega ballroom as Meghan Markle. As someone who's gone to events in these mega hotel ballrooms, you know, you may as well be on the other side of a national border. The idea that you're going to get close
to somebody like Meghan Markle without paying an arm in a leg and even then, you're maybe going to get a nod and acknowledgement, a photo don't touch me. Joining me to discuss this latest disgrace, my opinion
and the latest on the royals is the one and only. Lady C, Lady Colin Campbell will be joining us in a moment. Then we've got more developing today's show drama and Marlena has made yet another phone call recorded to see what Hota-Copy, who has been mysteriously absent
from studio one a over at 30 rock, and she's supposed to be having her big inaugural joy 101 retreat beginning today Friday the 13th. Marlena's phone call to this venue where this retreat is supposed to be taking place.
It didn't go well. You guys are gonna die, okay? Then we're going to talk briefly, briefly, about the Harvey Weinstein Q&A that the Hollywood Reporter just published with him.
They jail house dim. That's what we call it in journalism. They went and spoke to him. It's a jail house interview at Riker's Island. We've got another whack at the runt of the Kennedy litter
that is saying a lot, not to worry. Also next week we are going to be back with yet another installment of our hate watch of love story, JFK Jr and Carolyn Bessett. But back to today's show, we will then be reading
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Am I right? So we're gonna have a little conversation about the state of films and the movies that are nominated and the performances that are nominated as we get ready for Oscars weekend
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and that the nerve sent you. Joining us now is the one and only lady Colin Campbell better known to all of us as lady C. Royal biographer, New York Times bestselling author,
Alice Insider, someone who has never been afraid
to say exactly what she thinks when it comes to Harry and Meghan. In fact, lady C, literally wrote the book. It's called "Megan and Harry," the real story if you haven't read it yet.
Treat yourself this weekend. Welcome back to the nerve, lady C. Hello, Magia, you're looking great, Baguette. I love that you love pearls as well. Oh, my goodness, I was just about to say the same to you,
lady C, you are looking resplendent in this beauty. It's reading as an orange red on my screen. It's almost a nerve red. Your pearls, your dragonfly broach. I'm wearing a bit of a, is it's kind of a scarab?
There's a little, there's a little keep it on top of it. He means business. So let's talk, lady C, let's get into it. It has been announced that none other than Meghan Markle, fresh off of her dumping by Netflix.
They've made it, they've made no room for error. They're done with her. She is now going to be featured. The billing is actually, it's called Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, her best life retreat.
But as best as I can tell, this girl's weekend like no other, that's one way to put it. If you read the copy carefully, an event that promises a lot of word salad that sounds very Meghan Markle, quote, powerful conversations,
relaxation, laughter and unforgettable experiences, including a quote in person conversation with Meghan. I don't know what that means. That is vague. One can also purchase a VIP experience,
which includes quote seating at a table in front to rows for the gala dinner with Meghan.
Duchess of Sussex never forget.
I don't know what that means. As well as a group photo with the Duchess of Sussex, which I guarantee is going to be a class photo that everyone who spends approximately 200 and $2,300 in the US. Meghan will be in the center.
Everyone else will be a raid. It'll be a one shot deal off you go. That's as close as she is getting to the unwashed masses who are going to pay for this. Lady, see, what do you make of it?
- Well, I think it's extraordinary. You know, I'm pretty sure she's show up for the dinner and she'll swan around.
“But I think she's going to although I speak very,”
very, sort of inaccessible. She might even be Melbourne for a lot of it, where Harry is going to be speaking about, oh, now what is Harry speaking about? Oh, was it taking dope or being a dope?
I can't remember what he's speaking about. - I think he has booked a separate solo event after Meghan. So after Meghan announced this girl's weekend, again, doesn't she seem like the ultimate girl's girl? You know, everything she's done to poor Catherine
princess of Wales, Queen Elizabeth, the late Queen Elizabeth, Harry booked a solo event in which he is going to speak about workplace mental health issues, lady C,
To an audience of quote,
"You could not make this up."
“Industry leaders, policy makers, practitioners,”
and advocates to share practical strategies for building psychologically safe, mentally healthy and high performing workplaces, just like he and Meghan have done. - Well, of course, you need to remember
that Harry and Meghan are the experts on bullying and how to, so he'll be able to tell everybody, but he's not going to say, oh, no, you know, my wife is a terrible bully, and I know what you have to avoid.
He's going to pretend as if it's all new to him and all, but he knows all about avoiding bullying. Well, yeah, he does, because he trails in the wake of a bully. And, you know, I have to tell you, wouldn't it be wonderfully somebody leaked
that Buckingham Palli's report on her behavior? Because I gather, it's incendiary. Do you know, she used to follow people around Buckingham Palli's on the staff and like she'd be stalking them.
The one week everything would be fine. The next week, she would light upon somebody and she'd start stalking them. And she'd literally follow them from place to place and create havoc for them.
“And so I think Harry is certainly actually an expert”
on speaking about safety in the workplace because he knows what the opposite of it is having lived with Meghan. - Lety see, it would strain crudulity to think that Harry had not been made aware
that Meghan was engaging in such harassing and bullying workplace behavior at the palace, would it not? - He saw it. - He saw it. - He hasn't done his scene at the palace.
He's seen it at Montesito. He's seen it everywhere. Meghan doesn't, you know, he thinks he's thrilled to be to the power of this dominatrix. He's a submissive.
You know, he, when she cracks the whip at someone else, he moves back as a boom. (laughing) - I got your kill like me. You're so right. - Finding me that they're first truly royal tour in Australia.
“This is again, I think, another attempt to fain a foe royal tour.”
But that first tour was reportedly when Meghan turned to one of her aides and said, "I cannot believe I'm not getting paid for this." - Oh, she, you'd say that. - She did say that.
- She did say that. And I'm sure she said, "I've been full of the tea "managed to jump out of her cup towards Lady Cosgrove." - So that's story, Lady C,
we have never in America as far as I can tell ever been told
who the alleged, so this is all been alleged, at least here in America, that on that very tour, Meghan also, in a very displeased moment, through a cup of hot tea, very hot tea on an aid. I don't think we've ever heard the name Lady Cosgrove before, though.
- Actually, I might actually be cause, remember, I've been on a lot of drugs recently because of her. - There you go. - So I might not have fused it. But she'd definitely, there was an incident with, oh, yes.
I have confused, there was the tea incident and she actually berated Lady Cosgrove because her quarters were not sufficiently... Well, she didn't have the whole of government house or whatever it's called.
She only had a part of it and she had... - Oh, she wanted the whole house. She wanted the run of the house to herself and to Harry.
- She wanted more, you know, she always won't snore.
But I mean, even when Meghan was a jobbing actress who couldn't get a role, she'd be offered a part and it would be three lines and she'd novel the director, to increase it to 30 lines. She's always been whatever she gets.
She won't snore and she pushes for more. It's sort of a very unsavory attitude I would have said, but she's well known for it. That's why she was such a failure
Until she got that part in suits.
Because there were people in Hollywood. I mean, you check it out. You've got contacts in Hollywood. You're discovered that people didn't,
“you know, somebody would give her a job as a favor”
and she blew it because she was always wanting more.
And let's not forget that her, is his name Howie Mandel? - Is Howie Mandel? - Yes. - Oh, howie Mandel?
- And Mrs. Mandel had to, you know, howie Mandel complained to his wife about the fact that Meghan was full of ideas to extend her position. And Mrs. Mandel quickly realized what was going on
and said, get rid of that girl and he did. - This was while Meghan was a suit case girl on an American game show called Deal or No Deal. And her job was to open a suit case in which either there was money contained within or not.
Meghan auditioned for that job. And then later, once she became royal, said that it was sexist misogynistic and only objectified young women and that they simply weren't interested
in her vast, deep intellect. - Well, and there of course she's right because I mean, we all know we should be sitting down at Meghan's feet and looking up at her as if she suffocates
or socrates and directing in all the wisdom or is it poison that she has to offer. - I think it might be poison. - Lady, see, what do you hear about the palace's reaction to Harry and Meghan deciding next month
to take this trip to Australia which seems like a very, very pointed aggressive move
“as the monarchy is struggling amidst this Andrew crisis?”
- But I think actually in fairness molding that there are two aspects to this. As long as Meghan and Harry are diverting people's attention so we're for more concrete and serious matters. It's a welcome diversion.
- Great point. - So I think there's that going on but also there's no pleasure in the fact that yet, again, Meghan and Harry are presenting themselves as half in half out valid lawyers
on a private visit that, of course, is going to be totally public. And so I think there's two sides to the coin in so far as Buckingham Palace is concerned but they're definitely not pleased
and you know, Meghan and Harry set themselves as a rival court. - Oh, yes. - And nobody likes it.
“And it's fortunate that it's not stepping”
on anybody's tools per se because the king's visit to America is not on to the end of the month. - So I'm sure they will do something to try to provoke the king or to counter his media coverage. I don't know if you happen to see this column
by Rebecca English in the Daily Mail, the headline, "Visa V. Meghan."
She's basically firgy now.
What royal insiders are saying about this $2,000 VIP meat Meghan event, surprising way the Duchess contacted organizers. So yet again, this is a pre-planned event in which she inserted herself and invited herself in yet another pathetic attempt to see moral event
and how much Harry is reportedly set to pocket. I mean, we don't even know a percentage of the holidays to her getting. - Well, I don't think it's gonna be anything what they would like to be getting.
I mean, the income from Meghan's whatever it's called thing is nine-hurt. Yeah, you know that visit to the intercontinental in Sydney, it's nine hundred and seven hundred dollars. But that includes 300 people, full capacity,
then of course they have to be for food, et cetera, et cetera. And the organizers have actually said that they're not paying Meghan, but that doesn't mean they're not kicking back Meghan. And Harry will doubt this,
have been given maybe 20 or 30,000 dollars. I mean, he's gone in a few short years
from a million dollars a pot.
To 30 or 20 or 30 or 40,000 dollars a pot.
I mean, they're rarely not doing very well. You know, if you look at it from that point of view. And also I gathered that she suggested to Marcus Anderson, who is friends with one of the organizers of the podcast
and the whole weekend scene. And that's how it came about. And he, he interceded with her on behalf
“of the woman who's, I can't remember her name.”
It's something like Jackie Henderson or something like that. - She's the Australian radio personality, right? Who goes by Jackie O. - Who's not here thinking of? - Yeah.
- And Marcus Anderson is the so-ho house figure who also accompanied Meghan to that Balenciaga show that the designer told New York Magazine, yes, Meghan invited herself to this. - Well, I'm sure she suggested to Marcus Anderson.
And he's actually not heard the half, you know.
I mean, she's never been shy about suggesting things.
She is the one who contacted the UN. Elizabeth, whatever her name is, I call it, remember now. Oh, and she said she was taking a break from suits and she would be available and she would do anything she would be her girl, Friday.
And once she was there, she wangels
“where she got to make a speech in front of the general assembly.”
You know the famous speech, where she said, "We're the wonderful father she had." And how everybody should have a father like hers. And what a wonderful name he was. This was, of course, because before he became, he could be
a cartoon out of her life. - Yes. And this brings us to our, I was going to ask you this before we have to let you go. Harry and Meghan will be on that side of the world.
Where Thomas Markle is still rehabilitating from having part of his leg amputated being fitted for a prosthetic, having begged his daughter publicly for a visit or a phone call. What possible excuse could these two have
Meghan in particular for not chartering a private plane and going to pay a visit to her father.
“If they are this hell bent on making sure”
that they are the figure heads of charities around the globe, what could possibly be their excuse? - Lack of money. He doesn't have any and they don't have enough to charter a plane unless somebody's going to give
them the tickets they deserve. - Sure, why wouldn't one of their very rich,
powerful friends just loan them a jet?
- Well, exactly, but then she'd have to come up with another excuse. She, you know, I go to, if you know her father, he's a really nice student and in fact, I've been in touch with him recently.
He's doing pretty well. - Oh, that's so wonderful to hear he is doing well. - His attitude is wonderful, you know? He's trying to, he's doing the best he can. Do you remember Ali Trebek?
- I didn't know you were friends with Alex Trebek. - I'm friends with his ex-wife Elaine Trebek carries. - Interesting, okay. - We've been friends for over 50 years and Elaine introduced me to Gigi
and Gigi who was a huge child star. I mean, she was right up there, all of those says famous as Shirley Temple and now she and she taught Megan drama for many years and she,
Thomas Marker's senior is one of the nicest, kindest, most decent people she's ever met.
He was kind and generous, always gave far more than you wanted
she said he was invaluable and in fact, there was an incident where Megan didn't get a role that she wanted and she tried to force her father to not perform for everybody else and you know, because he would light it
and he would do stage et cetera. And he did it and she refused to speak to him for some considerable length of time. Gigi told me he's a really lovely man and I mean, I trust her because she had no reason to light
and all night interactions with him
Have been that he's a really nice man
and if you stopped to think,
Megan just cut him off at the knees
“when he was trying to maintain his dignity”
notwithstanding the fact that Buckingham Palace had offered her to send out our people to take care of him and her mother, she accepted it on behalf of the mother but not on behalf of the father and when he was hounded by the paparazzi
and the press and humiliated Carl Reiner, who is one of Megan's favorite go-to paparazzi, he got in touch with Samantha and said, oh, I can organize for your father to get some good publicity
and not be humiliated the way he's being back, the press
and because I know this from Samantha and Thomas Sr.
and so Thomas Sr. wasn't interested. Samantha talked to me and to be thinking she was doing a great favor for her father and then Carl Reiner spun around and so the story to the meeting on the Sunday
saying that it was a setup, but the whole thing was set up and both father and daughter Billy like Megan set it up to prevent the father going to the, to the, to the, I barely said funeral to the way he, - And, you know, he's in a state tomato, Samada.
(laughing) - Our is wedding, our is funeral, same thing but that all goes to the point
“that I think Megan Markle is banking on the world's media,”
having a very short memory, the new cycle being what it is, having forgotten that her father is still rehabilitating from a very, very serious, serious operation, one that he will, he will have to adapt to living with his, for the rest of his life.
We here at the nerve, you and I, ladies see, we don't forget, we have very long memories and we are pulling for Thomas Markle and I'm so happy to hear that he is doing well. He is probably better off without the dark cloud
that it's his daughter in his life. It sounds terrible to say, but I actually think it may be true and we cannot wait to have you back yet again as these two continue, be fouling the planet. - Thank you for having me.
It's been a separate joy, God bless.
“- Same to you, lady, see, see you soon, be well.”
- No, you don't. - Thank you to the one and only lady see with her
incredible intel, nobody knows this institution,
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(upbeat music) We are back, now, before we get into trouble maker feedback, we must discuss another retreat. The original retreat, promising joy. Once again, Megan Markle,
that alleged reported thief, a plagiarist, what have you we speak of Hoda, copy, who, by the way, not for nothing, has been missing from that share. Next to Craig Melvin, over at the today show, you know, the one she's been practically jumping out of,
since that his mother went missing? Well, she's been absent from the show. Tuesday was her last day co-hosting, it seems.
There was Nary mentioned, as far as we could tell,
as to it being Hoda's last day for a while,
what a great honor it's been to fill in for her dear BFF Savannah, last scene of voiding her hugs and studio one A is the paparazzi made sure to get there. Clear shots right inside a notionel that lump in,
mold of a replica of a human being with a barely working intellectual channel has been warming that seat. And my theory, my humble theory, I submit to you is your cultural criminal prosecutor
is that Savannah either heard the nerve, watch the nerve, or somebody to hold her about the nerve episode that aired earlier this week. There were two of them in which I reported my sourcing from deep within the today show that Savannah's colleagues
basically all said that her mother's abduction
was karma for Savannah being a bitch.
“And I think the head, the first head to roll was Hoda's.”
I think the, I don't know what's saying Hoda said that by any means, I have no knowledge of any such thing. I'm not accusing her of that, but I am saying I think that Hoda's eagerness and barely concealed glee at being in that chair.
Again, we've got first responders trying to revive Hoda's joy 101 retreat 'cause we're getting into that. Now, I think Savannah, condition number one of her return is gonna be blockbuster ratings. Hoda, blacklisted from Studio 1A, just my supposition.
I've been doing this long enough, but Hoda has toggled over to Arizona, the irony.
You know, she began hooking this joy 101 retreat
for spring. We're not technically in spring yet. That's March 20th, I believe. So she, you know, again, if you're a conspiracy theorist, Hoda sets her retreat in Arizona.
Savannah's from Arizona, Nancy Guthrie, lives in Inau. Anyway, we tried to get in and Marlene was discovered.
“It's a longer story, but that's what we believe.”
Anyway, so Hoda's joy 101 retreat is starting today. Friday, the 13th. Dark minds, dark hearts, dark souls. Now, this was build marketed nay as a luxury respite for the weary woman of the Western world.
It's being held at a JW Marriott. Now, no, there's no shame in saying at a JW Marriott, Marriott's are great. They are great hotels, but I'm saying, Hoda is aspiring to the woman whose idea of a vacation
is Canyon Ranch, who is laying out 10 to 15 grand for six days to be starved, like beaten in a boot camp, and leave like five pounds lighter. But in a luxury setting, or whose idea of a luxury vacation is they're staying in a five star suite at the Ritz in Paris.
It's not at a JW Marriott in Camelbach. In a tum, there was like either Marriott, tum, will either Marriott, Camelbach.
“Anyway, you know, we at the nerve are very suspicious”
that that thing is even really happening, because when Marlene tried to sign up to get notified when tickets were going to be on sale, the next day Hoda's website announced that the whole thing was sold out.
So we went from, we will shoot you an email when tickets are available for purchase to within less than 24 hours. Guess what, everybody? It's sold out. So guess what?
Marlene called the Marriott to see if it was still happening. And if it is happening, which, you know, if it's happening, could they direct her to like exactly where to go, because it's kind of a big resort, and we're a little bit lost.
She recorded it because she is a genius, and we're all going to listen together here. We go. - This is the JW Marriott in Scottsdale, yes? - Yes, it is.
- Hi, I am, I am really confused. I was supposed to go to a retreat. I was at like, for Hoda's, Joy 101. It's a was in the ballroom. I don't know, I'm kind of like a loss.
Where did I go? - What is the group name? - Joy 101. It's Hoda copies, where's the retreat? They told me he was in the ballroom.
(upbeat music)
(laughing)
- Right to the, the weight music.
- Okay, Barley and I just laughed in my ear. - What's the name of the retreat? - It's the spring retreat for Joy 101 with Hoda. - Joy 101, I do not have Joy 101 at our property. - Oh, oh, really wait, no, I'm sorry,
unless they named it something else, but I don't think so. - There's no retreat there at all. - I mean, I have groups that are here, but nothing under that name.
- Can I ask a question, I'm here with my friend. Do you have nothing under, you know, Hoda caught me of the today show?
“Saying, there's nothing there under her or inundation or group?”
- There's nothing there under her or inundation or group. - Thank you. - Thank you. (laughing) (laughing)
- I think they have like a, this is your code word. - It's really, they're really confused over there. You would think this would be like a top level event that every employee at the front desk would know exactly who this is and where to go.
But no, but no, it's a lengthy, it's a lengthy wait time too. - Are you here to set up or anything for the, - No, I have a ticket for it. - We both need to start until tomorrow. And that would be in the garden area.
- Oh, my God, okay, thank you. Marlena speaks for joy 101 attendees everywhere. Oh my God, oh my God, it's in the garden area. So it's not even in the ballroom.
“Now it's in the garden area of a Marriott”
and it's going to the palcho would never.
Okay, you know, I don't have much greater hope for Megan Markle's event either. But I'm sure we'll be hearing from inside. That little event, okay, so moving on, I wanted to touch briefly on a huge interview
that the Hollywood Reporter just published with none other than Harvey Weinstein. They conducted a jailhouse interview with him on March, was published on March 10th. And two days later, you know, they had bannered this interview
on the website and then they very quickly buried it, which says to me that they got a lot of pushback that was very negative. Full disclosure, I know the reporter who conducted the interview, it's Mara Rashon,
who was actually also the editor-in-chief
of the Hollywood Reporter.
“I worked with Mara, way, way back when I was a baby reporter”
at New York Magazine. He's a great guy, very smart, really good editor. I have my own Harvey Weinstein story. I don't know if I've shared this with you guys, but I was talking about it with Emily Jishinsky
on her show on Wednesday. When Harvey was on trial here in New York, on multiple counts of rape, he was twing with the idea of giving an exclusive interview to the New York Post.
And so he called the New York Post where he was very good friends with the then overseer of the New York Post. And then the editor-in-chief there at the time, I had worked with very closely for a long time
and Harvey was dealing with him. And that editor said to Harvey, you can have it, but it's going to be boring or it's going to be no one. And Harvey said, OK, I went to meet Harvey. Uh, the meeting was off the record.
And so what happened there remains off the record. But I can tell you that when I read this interview in which, and Harvey was also lying at the time, you know, like I got there and I was quickly informed that Harvey had had dinner the night before with an on-air
personality at Good Morning America. And I was like, what the fuck? You guys said that we were going to have the exclusive, what am I auditioning now? I came to call it my audition.
Because Harvey and his mind is forever producer. And he was auditioning people. This was how he amused himself while he was on trial. But when I read this interview in the Hollywood Reporter, it's really not worth your time.
He exhibits and expresses zero remorse. It's everybody else's misunderstanding. He's the one who's wrong to hear. He is the victim. And that's exactly the Harvey Weinstein I met way back when.
So, you know, there you have it.
It's not worth your time.
And then finally, before we get into trouble,
“make our email, we have Jack Schlossberg,”
who is polling, he is leading the polls in New York right now for an open congressional seat, an open US congressional seat. And he is successfully with the help of the mainstream media scrubbed a lot of his social media,
which, if I'm to be kind, the rantings of a deeply unhinged 33 year old man, who reports also were just published that,
indeed, he has never had a real job in his entire life.
He lives off of four family trusts. And is getting an assist from a Kennedy besauded mainstream media, but, but the algorithm knows me well, and into my Instagram on the evening of Wednesday, March 11th, came this post by Jack Schlossberg,
which we are going to show largely unedited so that the voters of New York and every hack in the mainstream media, who's licking this guy's ass, because he's related to JFK and Caroline Kennedy and John of Kennedy Jr, be ashamed of yourselves.
Okay, be deeply unshamed, ashamed, here we go. Hey guys, so my computer won't, someone's wrong with my computer, it wasn't charging.
So I took it to the Apple store and I said,
hey, I don't know what's going on, my computer won't work, it won't charge, it won't charge, I keep trying to charge it. Can you help, can you fix the computer? There's gotta be something wrong with the software, maybe I got a virus, maybe the, I don't know,
they said, yes sure, come back in an hour,
“came back in an hour, he said, yes, so, Jack, right?”
I said, yeah, he said, so I found the problem, there's a bunch of chocolate in the charger port. Yeah, there's a bunch of melted chocolate in the charger port, like I cleaned it out and it works now. That's a grown-up you aren't legislating for you, is it not?
Now, on to our troublemaker email, and we are going to begin fitting land off from one Irish person to another Jack, he's half Irish, fuck off, okay, this comes from troublemaker Heather, a frequent writer, and she, in advance of St. Patrick's Day,
has dressed me in, I'm gonna call this Irish Warrior Finery. If I could only do this justice, oh and the last image of me, others too, okay, my father would be proud. One is I am holding a pot of gold, which I love what this auger's for the nerve, Heather,
and then here is almost like an immemorial. It's almost like this is my funeral,
“and here's a photo of me next to on top of a wooden cake”
is a big, big mug of frothing green beer. Heather, I'm dying, it's so funny, okay, from troublemaker Craig and Hollywood, dear morning,
the answer is yes, Craig.
Have you ever considered the possibility that JFK Jr. did the world a gigantic favor by diverting his murderous suicidal tendencies? It was only a matter of time before he killed more people. I mean, he took innocence with him.
Carolyn Besett, complicated woman, troubled woman, did not deserve to die that way. Her sister Lauren Besett, a complete innocentness. JFK Jr., I theorized and asked not with a lot of legitimacy behind me.
I don't just pull it out of nowhere that JFK Jr. was on a murderous suicide mission that night. And once you see it, you can't unsee it. Craig continues, imagine had Jr. been elected president and used those very same devil-made care.
Craig goes ha-ha-ha, attitude against Russia. Much like daddy did. The Cold War act to may have had a much more chilling ending. Love the show. Thanks, Craig.
Love your feedback. Very insightful. From trouble maker. [BEEPING] I wanted to send a quick email.
He writes, to say, I'm really glad you called out that particular sex scene in Marty Supreme between Gwyneth Paltrow and Timate, not the new Marlon Brando Shyamalam and Ding Dong, Timate, like Oscar Voting's close. Now he's just like, it's just like the id is all out there.
And now he's comparing himself to Marlon Brando and some other legendary actor whose name escapes me.
Don't worry.
We're not done with Timate, not by a long shot. And as I've discussed, the nerve our Oscar's live stream.
“We have a guest that we have wanted to have in studio”
since the nerve began. And that guest is going to be here. Bells on you guys are going to die. You're going to die. Anyway, who is written to us before continues,
I don't think I've mentioned this in my previous emails to the nerve. But I work as a solicitor, meaning lawyer in the UK. And I also volunteer for a victim's advocacy charity here. We have noticed over the last few years.
The sex scene, by the way, in case he missed that episode of the nerve, has Timate behind Gwyneth in a shower, having sex. And he's got his hand around her throat and he's choking her out. And Gwyneth is acting as if she is an ecstasy.
And in some substance, I said the scene was disgusting. Gwyneth should be ashamed of herself
“for not pushing back and saying there's no fucking way”
I'm doing a scene like that. And that this is the direct result of far too many young men growing up on porn and thinking that that is hot and that violence against women is hot. And that's something women want.
And if women don't want it, we should be conditioned to want it.
Fuck, no, it's dangerous, as I said, never, ever, ever let a man
put his hands around your neck for any reason. Never let a man put any kind of implement or material around your neck for any reason. Tinnies. So he says, we have noticed over the last few years, a really
disturbing trend in the cases we've dealt with, where we support young women who have been victims of domestic abuse. And their abuser either started with or engaged in this type of behavior. This is what's called conditioning, grooming that moves into
escalation too many times, right?
“We've heard victims tell us that their abuser would say, oh,”
this is normal, babe. Do you think Oprah says that to Gail ever? You know they call each other, babe. Don't you want to make me happy? And I promise I'll stop if you tell me to.
Hollywood should not be portraying this type of behavior as consensual and normal, because in the majority of cases, I have encountered in real life. It is not. It is abuse, plain, and simple.
Timmate will never have to sit in a room.
This is just what I'm writing with a mother and father who will never see their daughter again. Because she was either coerced or pressured into engaging in this activity with a partner who did not stop. Two more emails, these are so good.
Hello, again, more in. I will keep your name confidential as asked trouble maker. I lived both in New York and on the cape and I've had direct experience with the untrained, unruly and sadly neglected Kennedy dogs regarding Ryan Murphy and the Kennedy series.
You mentioned JFK Junior's dogs, roses in Edward Kennedy's. Oh, sorry, Edward Kennedy's excuse me, Portuguese water dogs. I have friends that who live in centerville, which is next to hiatus, I know that I know that well. One of the surviving family members of a victim who I wrote
about in Ask Not. They live, she and her husband live in centerville. I spent time out there. My friends would regularly comment their right next to each other. My friends would regularly comment about the Kennedy dogs, mainly labs
and golden retrievers who would run around like savages, shitting all over the place on the beach and scaring the crap out of
people because they were so untrained and never watched by their
owners and that trouble makers as all of us who love dogs know is abuse and neglect. It is abuse and neglect not to train your dog properly. This, this trouble maker writes has gone on four years. Contrast this with the extremely stringent leash laws in all Cape Towns.
In addition to beach access restrictions for dogs in most places, dogs are forbidden to be on any Cape beaches from Memorial Day through either Labor Day or October 1st. You would think that the Kennedy's would keep their dogs on the private beaches of the compound in high-end support, but no.
I wouldn't think that, of course, not going to do that. Rules are for us, not them. Instead, they regularly bring their dogs to public beaches where they make a mess and run wild rules for the, not for me. I am pretty dog savvy to screw up a lab or a golden takes a lot.
This is true, they are naturally friendly and goofy breeds. But the Kennedy dogs, this trouble maker says downright aggressive.
Now, this trouble maker continues with another more personal experience
with a Kennedy dog.
I'm going to leave the name of this Kennedy out of it,
but I will say that this trouble maker writes of one of Robert F. Kennedy and Ethel Kennedy's children and as discussed, Ethel Kennedy was a shit mother. Her kids are feral, feral. Maybe not all, but most of them.
When I lived in the East Village, this trouble maker says, "I used to walk Black X Kennedy's English mastiff. My mom had an English mastiff.
Extremely sweet dog. Extremely sweet dogs.
These breeds, oh my god, they will break your heart, they're so sweet." So, this trouble maker would walk Kennedy X's dog, not long after the playing crash. You know, the one that John, in which John killed himself, his wife, and his sister, Emma, the dog was a sweet girl weighing in at one thirty. I am five, two, but she was taller and weighed more than me.
They're big dogs, and they don't even know their own strength often, because they're just so like shaggy and they just want affection and, you know, my mom
seems to jump on me and all he wanted was hugs and kisses,
but he was so heavy that he would press into my chest to the point where I couldn't breathe. That was the bodyweight on me, but I would be laughing so hard because this dog didn't know
“it was about to like suffocate me. That's what you're dealing with when you're dealing with an”
English mastiff. Anyway, this trouble maker continues, this dog would routinely try to pull me down, jump counters, put her face in the fridge, and try to eat anything she could get into one time. She ate an industrial-sized bar of ivory soap, and I had to induce vomiting. Then I took her to the vet in a cab. I recall the vet saying, "What did she do this time?" Despite loving the dog, she was totally neglected by the family. This dog craved,
attention, and walks. I could barely get her outside before she immediately relieved herself, as if she hadn't been walked for hours. These are the real Kennedies. New Yorkers and members of the mainstream media currently propping up Jack Schlossberg educate yourselves. Hi, Maureen, our final email. I've been watching as many Oscar movies as I can stomach before Sunday. Don't even worry about it. The nerves live stream is
“going to fill you in on what you need to know. We're going to spare you the pain. That's what”
I'm here for. I'll take it for you guys. Don't worry. Now, this trouble maker continues. I absolutely loved Blue Moon. We all know how we feel as a nerve about Blue Moon and Ethan Hawks performance. You should be winning that Oscar for Best Actor. This trouble maker grace continues. Ethan Hawks deserves the Oscar for his ability to make Lorenz Hart pathetic, witty, delusional, and brilliant, simultaneously. Yes, it was a movie that was so much more than a character study. And it was also a
movie that wasn't plot driven. I was moved to tears by the end. Compared to Timmy's, unlikeable in narcissistic, Marty Supreme, there shouldn't be any question on who should be the recipient of the little gold man. Agreed. We will see you all. We hope on Sunday at 6.30 PM Eastern for our very special Oscars live stream. Keep your feedback coming. Not to sound like Oprah. Email me at morning at devilmakeramedia.com. If you haven't already, go and subscribe to the nerve.
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Sure you would. Go do it. It's tons of fun. Remember to join us here again Sunday March 15th at 6.30 PM Eastern for our bonkers, unhinged Oscars live stream. Timmy today, Shama Laman Ding Dong will not be here, but it's top level shit will. Full details are on the nerve's Instagram page at the nerve show. Or on my Instagram page at Marine. Call a hand writer up next. We have an Oscars movie chat with a very special guest who I have been really wanting to book for a very long time. He is a very good
friend of mine and probably my favorite person to talk movies streaming and pop culture in general
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film and television together. James is one of the smartest people I know. He's very, very, very,
well-versed and has very interesting takes on things that you may not see coming. And one of the reasons I love talking to him and thought I thought it would be so great to bring him to all of you guys is we often disagree and it makes my consideration of any given film or television show that much more interesting because James is so smart I have to consider it from his point of view. So we are thrilled to welcome James from corporate who we cannot see it's almost like he's in the
witness protection program but we have this lovely avatar of James from corporate made for all of us
and we are going to talk in the run-up to the Oscars it's two days away about some of these
Oscar-nominated films performances and what both of us think in general about the state of movie's movie making and Hollywood. Welcome to the nerve, James. Oh my gosh Maureen, I'm so happy to be here. It's such an honor. I love talking movies with you. Feel like a martini in hand, us disagreeing about open-heim or something like that. It would just, real memories for me. So I'm very happy to be here.
“It's the only thing we're missing talking about I remember talking to you two about Tarantino's”
once upon a time in Hollywood and you were like we'll have you read Tarantino's book. What was this book called "I Have In"? And the companion book to the movie? No no no he wrote a book about cinema. Oh yes yes. I forget the title and I have the book on my pile but I haven't read it yet. So anyway okay we will get into it. Now I want to begin with Marty Supreme because I know you are a big fan of the Safdie Brothers. Did you get a chance to see the film? I did. I did.
Okay we're going to start with this scene in Marty Supreme. This scene I talked about it on an earlier nerve. It stopped me in my tracks. It is a sex scene between Timothy, Shalalama Ding Dong, and the 20-something-year-older, years-older, Gwyneth Paltrow. And he's got, he's having sex with her from behind and he's got his hand around her throat. Here we go. Sorry, Ms. Stone wanted to let you know that she'd love to have lunch with you.
Ms. Stone? Yes. Ms. Stone is Gwyneth. Smash cuts this. It's so okay that's it. That's all I want to see of that because I hate it. I hate it. Now granted James this is just a moment out of a film but I find this part of my larger problem with movies being made by men of a certain generation right now, which is their sex scenes
“are all too often derived from porn. And I think this is incredibly dangerous messaging.”
What do you think? I think that's totally fair. I think the movie is about a juvenile,
Right?
women, or clearly it's inappropriate. It's wrong. His relationship with his mother, his girlfriend,
who's pregnant with his child's boy and married to another man married to another man. You know, it's a depiction. I mean, the trope of like a bad men trope is overused but this is a clear example of it. Totally understand. I mean, you know, Gwyneth, her interest in doing it, the reason why this actress is pursuing this person, that's sort of interesting for me to do. Okay, but let's separate that out a little bit. It's or rather separate that. So Gwyneth,
as an actress taking this part versus Gwyneth, she's playing an actress who is aged out. Yes. And find some sort of validation in the attentions of this young man who is lit up the world.
Let's just talk about the premise for a moment. As the emerging king of the high stakes world
of underground ping pong in New York City, more in a kind of love it. They're like, why do we care about half of the winter Olympics? Like these folks that are great in very obscure sports or things like that. But they're death-defying James fair. That's a fair. I mean, like the safety brothers are treating underground ping pong like they're it's fast eddie thousand in the color of money or the hustler. Like the like ping pong, you're a native New Yorker, James.
“And it's a murderous role of New Yorkers. Mary Anne from Brooklyn, right? Did you see Mary Anne?”
I didn't know Mary Anne from Brooklyn, a stalwart of the Howard Stern show. I did not know she was in there. I mean, I do feel that the safety brothers casting of non-actors is very kind of gimmicky. It's like, oh, crazy eddies in here. It's like, they don't grab anybody, you know? I know Josh Saffty. It's not the two of them. I'm sorry. Which is fascinating. They're like commercial divorce. They're very public divorce of one another.
I think it's really interesting. And I think it was interesting who was going to make the more interesting movie. One very much seemed like Oscar Bay with that movie with the rock in it. Smashing machine, which was Venice. Yeah. And this one that sort of carries on very much the same energy of their previous movies, which to me reads as Josh is really the talented one. And that's sort of separate, separate subjects. But I do think it's interesting. And I do totally
understand your issues with the depiction of masculinity and sex through the male lens there.
“That's who this film was about. And I think it's like when it's character being interested in him,”
certainly, would you say it's her trying to get back to sort of youthful romance where you're not really treated well. I'm curious you're perspective on why an actress like that would entertain a relationship with a man like that. And actress, meaning the actress Quinn at this playing in the film, why she would this to me is fundamentally where the movie's way way off. And where Josh Saffty's way way off. I mean, the split between the Saffty brothers goes to a
young teenage actress, a 17 year old, on the set of one of their films, almost getting raped by a homeless drug addict who had a rap sheet like a mile long. So that's a problem right there. And you know, the trope of sort of the bad boy with the heart of gold or the bad boy who's like in discussions you can forgive because they're in pursuit of something greater. You know, they're ambition outstrips most of what most of us could ever accomplish.
“I don't think the story is told through that lens at all. And I think there's been a”
laxity with that ever since Tony Suprano, really. And this idea of like the difficult man, Timmy looks like he's 12 years old. You know, and Julia Roberts reportedly turned that that roll down after multiple offers where they were like, here's 20 million just do it. And she was like, I'm going to look like I'm molesting a child. And she was right. And I just that the movie to me, the problem with it, there were many problems, but one is it was
always at 11. They get never took a breath. It never gave you a breath. And yet it felt every
minute of it's like nearly three hour long running length. And the character is eminently unlikable. There is not a single redeeming feature. And this is a big ask, I think, a big ask. And it neglects the female half of the movie going audience who's going to be completely turned off by this. I think that's totally fair. But it is consistent with with Josh Afties other films, like good time with Robert Pattinson or uncut gems with Adam Sander, both irreducible characters.
And like thrill ride, anxiety inducing, never lets up. That is what Josh is interested in. And I have to, I don't think you give him credit for this. But I do give
Shamalama ding dong.
any movie he wants to make. Adam Sander can make any movie he wants to make. They want to work with
“this person. And I think it's an interesting choice. And I do think, you know, I have major issues”
with three hour movies. I think I still don't want to see Frankenstein, Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein, because that's, I don't know, is it? Or many series, it's really long. This movie helped my attention all the time. And I definitely agree that there are faults. It's not, it's not who they actually want to watch again. But I'm happy to have seen it. Interesting. Okay, moving on. I want to talk about one battle after another. Director Paul Thomas Anderson probably considered right after
Quentin Taranty. I don't think Christopher Nolan would be considered Gen X. I could be wrong. He reads as a boomer to me. But I feel as though Paul Thomas Anderson is often, sort of, grouped in with the likes of Quentin Tarantino as a Gen X visionary. And one battle after another, I could not get through it. I found it aggressively off-putting. I found it aggressively to be a polemic in no way subtle. And I will say, though, my favorite, this might be my favorite scene of the
year. And we're going to watch it together, James. And then I'm going to narrate it for the listening audience. And then we will talk about it. I am very interested in your thoughts. Here we go. This is a love scene involving Tiana Taylor. He's a black radical activist. Uh, pushing and naked, Sean men up against a wall and she is mainly violating him with his firearm and he is loving it, James. Yes. So my whole take with this movie starts with the
miscast of Tiana Taylor. Thank you. A lot of people have an issue with this movie because the prologue doesn't work. And it's not a little bit about the prologue and why it doesn't work. Well, first of all, just her casting alone, really. Just like it's, and this is trying to find a better way to say this. But I find that her, when I appears to me like her classic surgery is very distracting. She has sort of like that cat face that almost like a Lauren Sanchez. It just doesn't
read to me at all as being authentic of a revolutionary as someone like of that world. It's, it's,
“I think that alone was a great point. That's a great point. And she's, she's partnered in the”
film. She, her, her lover is Leonardo DiCaprio and they are aggressively depicted as having no money. Yeah. You know, and so yeah, where's she getting the money for this to look, plastic surgery, all else Kardashian eyes, the beginning of the film was a huge problem for me because to me, that's telling me, Paul Thomas Anderson's thesis, she's wanting to F Leo DiCaprio in the aftermath of them or as they watch something blow up a bomb that they set. Yeah. Yeah. That casting,
she's sort of anointed as someone new and important. I'm not sure who is behind that and who's backing her. But that, she really took me out of the movie. It took like another, took a full hour from me to sort of settle in. I really like the young actress, the daughter. I think Virginia
“is infinity. Yeah, Jason Finity. She, she worked for me. I think Regina Hall, who was like her”
guard again later in the movie would have been perfect as the, as the talent Taylor character. Who's name in the film is Perfidia Beverly Hills. And again, this kind of non-sautalty drives me crazy. It's like, okay, I get your point. If I didn't get your point, watching this woman try to convince Leonardo DiCaprio to have sex as they watch some federal property blow up, you know, then I get it when you name her Perfidia Perfidious Beverly Hills. I see this movie as Paul Thomas Anderson's
Jackie Brown. It's like him doing black exploitation. I think Leo's great in it. I think he just for his career. It's almost like when Martin Scores says he won the Oscar for the departed. When that was not his best movie by him. Did he win director for the departed? I think he won best picture for the departed. I will say I think the departed is a superlative film. You know, it may be a little bit too pop culturally like in the middle, like middle brow. I think front
to back. It's a perfect movie. It's great movie, but like it's not good fellows or casino or taxi driver. So all those, you know, that there will be bloods, the boogie nights, the movies that's
sort of led up to this. Ultimately, this will be what I think should be a retrospective award for
Paul Thomas Anderson. But not his best work. And I think it really comes down to that casting
Of talent.
Thomas Anderson needed an at a really good editor not just in that editing suite, but on the page.
“I think he's gotten to that point in your career where it's when you act directors and writers”
who, and even visual artists who reach a certain point in their career, all too often they determine that they know best. And that's where things get really messy. It's just their art gets sloppy. And it gets very self-indulgent. I think to my mind, the best Paul Thomas Anderson movie is Magnolia. I think that's his best work. If not over stuff though, worrying that's like three and a half hours long. True. I guess that is a very long novel. Yeah, again, it doesn't
nothing needs to be that long. It doesn't need to be that long. Okay. I want to talk to you about weapons. Please. Which was the film of the summer. And people I know whose opinions I really respect loved it. The reviews were glowing. The trailer was enticing. I could not get through the movie halfway through. I failed. I really tried to stick with it. And I went to Catholic school. I was raised as a completeist. You open a book. You finish a book. I can't do this to myself. This
is the problem to me with so many of these Oscar-nominated films. Not only were they enough to get me into a movie theater, which is one of my favorite places, when it comes time to stream them. I don't want to finish the movie. I'm bored. And weapons for me was one of those. What was
“it like for you? I loved it. It's my favorite movie the year. I think that Gregor the director”
and writer who's I think going on now to do a big budget movie. He's leaving these sort of horror indie roots and now doing, I think, Resident Evil, which is a video game. Amy Madagin is the only person I really cared. The Oscars, what was I interested in the Oscars five years ago, potentially not now. I really couldn't care less about this interesting word ceremony. Although I do love film. Amy Madagin is the only one I care about. I will tune in to see if she wins or not,
because I thought she did such a wonderful job as I agree. But I do think with Amy Madagin with that performance, half of that Oscar belongs to hair make up in wardrobe. Fair, 100%. Hair make up in wardrobe. Without that visual, when we first see her and it takes your breath away
and we've never seen a character like this on screen before, which is a difficult thing to do admittedly.
My problem with weapons, the story telling where I realized they were telling the same day, just through the lenses of different people and I thought the the writer director wasn't quite sure really where he wanted to go with it. And spoiler alert for anybody who hasn't seen it, but I think my problem with it was that it didn't lean into what it really is an allegory for. Weapons is an allegory for school shootings. Yeah, I think that's totally fair. I think he's talked
about that. He also talked to me, so have you read the book, Marine, visit from a Coon squad? Jennifer Egens, visit from the Coon squad? Yes, I've read it twice. I love that book. It's a masterpiece. When I was watching the movie, I actually said in my wife, it reminds me of visit from a Coon squad. He has also talked about that. I think there's a lot of things that
“play there. I think yes, did he not fully lean into the themes that he was trying to present?”
Ultimately, it is a genre film where it's a horror genre film and I do think he
nailed. He brought something new, unlike the other horror film we're going to talk about, to that genre, in its depiction of the supernatural witch element. I thought that was extremely entertaining. In terms of the shooting allegory, that is a, has any movie really done that? Well, I think that's such a tough subject to cover and do it successfully. I mean, it's an independent film and it was nominated for Oscars. I don't know if it won any, but we need to talk about
Kevin, which was what it was. An adaptation of the Lionel Shriver novel. It didn't pretend to be a horror film or an allegory of any kind. There's that scene in the police department where I believe Josh Brolin walks in and he's like, "Hey, where are you in this investigation?" You see the faces of the missing children. This is so clearly an allegory for school shootings in America and this plague. And that to me is the true horror story, right? I just felt there was a resistance,
whether it was on the part of the filmmaker, the part of the studio, to truly go there. When you find out that the kids are in the basement, Amy Madagant's basement, you're like, it feels like
Stephen King light to me.
level of fandom when it comes to the writer director, Ryan Cougler? Very middle of the road.
Same. I would, you know, in talking, this is the most nominated film of the year, right? I mean, sinners is? sinners is the most nominated film in Oscars history. I talk about not not, is it? It is officially. Stop it. Stop it. Okay. This is where DEI comes in. My opinion, this is not a master piece. This is a vampire movie. That's it. Go on, James. Yes, it's a vampire movie that doesn't really do anything interesting with vampires. I totally agree. But I, you know, going back,
“I think you have to start with the movie that really made his name and made him a household name,”
Black Panther. I felt the same thing with that movie where I saw that opening weekend after all a wonderful review is thinking it was going to be like a genre of defining superhero film. It was okay. It was okay at best. It gets not right. I felt the same way. The culture had inspired to get everybody into that movie theater. It was a cultural moment. If you didn't see that movie, you were not part of the conversation. And I remember watching it thinking the production values were
for shit. Yeah. Like the green screens. Oh my god. Everything. They put no money into that movie.
Steve GI or G. Third Act problems. That's sort of typical superhero. And nothing really,
I don't think it had much interesting to say on the superhero genre. And I would also say too, like Michael B. Jordan, seemingly was in a different movie. I remember thinking like this guy isn't quite fitting this movie. He sort of, he was acting in a totally different movie than everybody else in that, which leads me to sinners. Michael B. Jordan playing twins. I couldn't tell you one thing from the next in terms of the twins he's playing. And he would think as an actor playing
twins, such a great opportunity to show range to show. Oh yeah. I can differentiate. It's the same person. The other thing I can differentiate is like the women that they're dating. But there's
really nothing else. So I find Michael B. Jordan to be certainly a leading man, but a man with no
“range. He's really not a compelling screen actor. He's not. I think he's, I think he's good in the”
right kind of genre film. Like I found him very appealing in Creed, which he's playing himself. I had that same thought. I feel like he was great in the wire. Wonderful as a kid in the wire. Creed, he's totally compelling. But it's kind of like a version of himself. A rich celebrity. This movie, I don't know. He really didn't work for me. He wasn't interesting. I thought that vampires, the Irish actor, I think John Josh calling me. The best. That not familiar.
The vampire character. He was really interesting. I thought the dance sequences were interesting, visually. Those felt like filler to me, though. I felt like filler. I was like, I'm trying to watch this film. And there's so much space between the dialogue. And there's so much of a focus on the cinematography for cinematography, sake. And not in say like a way that like a turnts malloc approach is filmmaking. It felt like filler. It felt like we're trying to fill time until we get to the
orgeastic explosion slash reveal that this is a vampire movie. And there's just blood going everywhere. And it just felt, I felt like those were two different movies I was watching. I thought I was watching some sort of very important, again, historical allegory about slavery or the Jim Crow South. And it's it's a cheapening of that stuff to use it in that way to try to elevate what is just a vampire
“movie. 100%. I think, you know, you talk about the dying effect of like movie stars. And I think”
part of it is they're really trying to annoy him as someone important. And you know, his award is already that he got all the money. Like his movie made a ton of money. He's going to make whatever he wants to make next. It is, in my opinion, not deserving of any Oscars. It's it may be for special effects or any of those like below the line of words. But they're trying to annoy him as a Christopher Nolan-esque person who's movies when they come to theaters are events
in themselves. Coogloria mean. Coogloria. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Because that is like they're only real strategy to get people and theaters. It's no longer like you want to see Tom Holland in the movie ears and Dia. You want to see Christopher Nolan do the Odyssey. And that's like that. So in my view, that's, and they've been trying to do it with him for a while. But he's, he's not quite there. And his, he's a John or filmmaker who makes commercial movies. That should be enough. He's a
JJ Williams. He's not a Steven Spielberg. Yes. He is a JJ Abrams. He is not a Steven Spielberg. And he's not going to be a Christopher Nolan. And this is the problem with Hollywood when you
Try to do a paying audience to go to the movies post-COVID.
so expensive. And now that every movie is a three hour long running time, it's like taking up your
“entire day. And you get there and you're like, I've been sold a false bill of goods. Like where's”
just a decent movie? And it completely, like I, before talking to you, I was, I was thinking about this.
Like, there are a million things I cannot catch up on in terms of new stuff that's on streaming
versus films that I feel like I'm doing my homework with in order to talk about them at the Oscars. And I'm going to go to our last regrettably entry, which I, which I loved. It's an outlier for me. I feel very passionate about it. I feel if there's anybody who has been robbed of Oscars, it's Richard Linklater and Ethan Hawke and Ethan Hawke in Richard Linklater's Blue Moon in a film that is set on one night in one location. And these are very tricky to pull off because they can
feel like plays. They can feel very static and one dimensional. And this movie has heart and passion. And it's got grammatical specificity. And we're going to show this one clip where I practically left out of my skin. And then you and I are going to talk about Blue Moon James. Here we go. Oklahoma with an exclamation point, no less. In fact, any title that feels the need for an exclamation point, you want to steer clearer. That's Ethan Hawke as the very real composer/learist or lyricist rather
Lorenz Hart on one of the last nights of his life or if not the last night of his life. Talk to me James about your thoughts about not only Blue Moon, but the Linklater Hawke collaboration. And why it is Ethan Hawke is so criminally neglected by the Academy because I also think he was extremely strong, an extremely strong contender for best supporting actor in training day, which is a classic. It's a genre film, but it is a master stroke of filmmaking. Go ahead.
Yeah, I agree. Blue Moon was one of my favorites. I hope I don't offend you here, but it's a perfect movie to see on a narrow plane. I did see it on a narrow plane. James, I'm quite afraid. No offense at all. I love watching Blue Moon. I like settling at this bar and joy. To me, very much a stage play, but just moves at a pace where it felt leisurely to watch. It was like a wonderful movie to see on a plane. So I recommend anybody tuning in to do that. I really,
I really enjoyed it. I thought the writing was phenomenal. I thought Linklater. Yes, you're right.
“Linklater and Hawke have a long story history. Anyone that's seen the before after sunrise movies?”
No, the trilogy. This is a really talented and special partnership that they have. Similarly to I feel is Paul Thomas Anderson. Paul Thomas Anderson should be celebrated for his career. These two should be celebrated for their partnership. Oh, 100%. I don't think since. And there's is a very different tone and toner than, say, Scorsese and De Niro. But it's a very similar way in which they feed off of each other. And to my money, one of the most, so Blue Moon, by the way, is just it's
Lorenz Hart. And he is losing everything to alcoholism and self-pity. And his partner is going his, has just done Oklahoma and is clearly going on to bigger and better things without him. And it is, it's about art. It's about unrequited love. It's about a kind of artist who is just determined to do
themselves in and never be successful. Ethan Hawke makes this guy, somebody you want to listen to
all night long. But to my mind, one of the, I thought this film should have just won every Oscar, there was Boyhood, a link later, Hawk Film, which they filmed over the span of, I want to say, eight to 10 years, once a year. And it's the story of a young boy coming of age and Ethan Hawke
“is the father. Patricia Arquette is the mother. And when, and they kept that project to secret,”
much as they keep the before, after movies to secret. And it was just ignored. It was neglected. And I simply think it's because link later in Hawk, don't really play the game. Richard link later lives and works out of Austin, Texas. He is no use for Hollywood or any of the machinery. But I'm taking up too much time. Tell me your thoughts. I, Boyhood to me was an interesting, I, like, film idea that it wasn't movie to me. I'm interesting. You know, it worked for me, but it was, you know,
obviously a smaller movie. I used to live in the same neighborhood as Ethan Hawke. And I would see him
regularly out in a couple hill area. He was always like the warmest person. I feel like I was
not so nice to hear. Like, again, I never really had interactions with them. I never talked to him. But it was just, it wasn't like you were bothering him. If you noticed him, it was just like a
Nice exchange you had.
that. Just for those like eye contact moments we had. I totally agree. I think they should
“celebrate him with the best actor. I think that would, in essence, commemorate their partnership”
together. You shared the scene of Oklahoma Exclamation Mark. I wanted to ask, are you going to see the bride? Exclamation Mark this weekend? No, and you know why? Okay, Maggie, Jill and Hall. I am not a fan. I interviewed her once and she was doing a play at Bam. This was years and years and years ago, way before she was like really famous. And she was really offended that I dared to ask her about an independent like female owned designer from New York that she tended to wear.
It was an article for the New York Post and it was like, I'm an actor. I'm like, I'm, you know, whatever. But so that's another movie. It's starring Jessie Buckley who is high on her own supply. And this is one of those things where again, the Hollywood machinery hated and embedded by critics who are all too malleable are saying this is a musty film. And the reviews coming out of these advanced screenings are it's terrible. As a fan, can you please hate
watch this movie? We need like, uh, we need you to hate watch this, give us your review similar as you did to the sex in the city. It's been off series. Like, we need a detailed breakdown from Maureen on how the bright exclamation mark did for you with theaters. Okay. I will, I will take that on by the way, James. If you're not, if you're not watching, I know you're very busy and corporate. But uh, love story, JFK Jr and Carolyn Bissette, we're breaking that down every week, which is
super fun. Um, I will do it. Number one. Okay. That's that little scene we played from Oklahoma.
“There, there's a, a longer exchange. I think it's E. B. White, who Lorenz Hart starts talking to”
in that bar, and Ethan Hawks character is, he's perseverating, excuse me, on the use of the exclamation point in the title of Oklahoma. And then he goes on to all his other grammatical like
hangups, and it just like, it speaks to the inner grammarian in me. I've never seen it represented
on film before. Um, but secondly, yes, and you know my other problem with the bride, which is going to be treated as though, um, by the critics and the industry as though it is, um, visually, uh, ground breaking. She just ripped off Heath Ledger as the Joker for that makeup of Jessie Buckley as the bride. That's it. Yeah, it's getting compared to the Joker movies, not starring Heath Ledger, the ones with walking Phoenix in terms of them being a mess and just nihilistic. I, again,
“had no interest in seeing it, but I'd love to hear you see it. Why are you not going to see it?”
I mean, you, you're, you're like me or interested in films that go wrong as much as films that go very, right? Like I am very interested in art that goes wrong, because you can learn a lot about what
never to do, right, in terms of storytelling. Look at this sneaky, it's tail. I'm going to see
when it comes out on streaming and judge it from there and start and stop it when I need to, 'cause it's going to be painful to watch. Same. And my last question to you, because I started this movie the other night and I will finish it, though I'm finding it tougher going than I would have suspected sentimental value with Stella and Scar's guard, L fanning. And the young actress who I believe, I didn't have a chance to look it up, but I think she's the same actress who starred in the, um,
that great independent film, the worst person in the world, which I loved in anybody who hasn't seen it, watched that film, the worst person in the world. Gamewriter director as sentimental. Oh, is it? Okay, now I have a, this is helping sort of reframe my feelings about sentimental value. Have you seen it? I have not. It's a blind spot. I do love the worst person in the world, so I, it's a number one of my list before the Oscars. Okay, you and I will discuss at a later date. Yes. Thank you, James,
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