The Nerve with Maureen Callahan
The Nerve with Maureen Callahan

Oprah Turns Down Harry & Meghan, Jared Leto's Alleged Dark Past EXPOSED, & Anna Wintour's Backlash

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Maureen Callahan is joined by celebrity reporter Rob Shuter for a full breakdown of the latest celebrity drama, including reports that Oprah Winfrey is not interested in another sit-down interview wit...

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Hello and welcome to the nerve.

At night, I am your host, worrying, Callahan.

I have a little bit of that summer cold still with me, so please excuse my throat.

Not even that could stop us here at nerve HQ from delivering another loaded lineup of celebrity offenders and the multiple theories that we at nerve HQ have going as to what the real stories beneath the headlines are, what the real motivations behind the stated reasons are, we are going to begin with our pal Rob Shooter, Dishing on the latest out of Camp Sussex.

Meghan Markle has not been wearing her engagement ring for four months. The real problem here is that we all just noticed about a couple of days ago. So we're going to get into that and then we're going to discuss in a more serious topic, what's really going on with Jared Leto and how it is that this guy's behavior, which

has been an open secret in Hollywood, four decades is now suddenly just coming to

light and is now suddenly just being taken very seriously by the powers that be in the media and industrial complex, then we've got another major development in the Keith Urban Nicole Kidman divorce the cocaine clause will forever stay with us here at the nerve and more scandal and more power grabbing more it's not power grabbing rather it's more of a power struggle.

Excuse me, power struggle over at Vogue in one corner on a winter in the other her hand picks successor Nepospawn Chloe Mal in the middle should a known vocal anti-Semite be

honored next year's Mecha Rob is joining for all of this and more plus incredible feedback

incredible trouble maker art and so we ask are you ready are you ready let's go.

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read if you haven't gotten your copy run yourself over to amazon or your nearest local bookstore rob welcome back to the nerve at night hey good to see you morning good to see you trouble makers we're gonna have a great day a great evening of gossip lots to talk about we have so much it was hard to figure out what to begin with but let's begin with a gruesome to some and Oprah the barnacle that is trying to detach itself Oprah this is your exclusive rob says no to Harry

Meghan interview part two quote she's not going back there published a lie to...

according to insiders rob's exclusive from which i read the sexes have floated the idea of a

second sit down with the media icon this time focusing on reconciliation rather than royal grievances

Oprah however isn't buying it full me one size suppose a media insider tells naughty but nice Harry and Meghan would love a part two they're talking again because they both have projects to promote and they know interviews generate headlines they hoped Oprah might be interested in a fresh chapter about healing she isn't now rob I've got theories as to why Oprah is talking about Harry and Meghan right now but before we get to that tell us what you know about the desperation

out of camps Sussex to do yet another sit down with Oprah and to be rebuffed in such a definitive

yeah yeah Oprah doesn't want any part of this she's done it once I think 30 million people or so

viewed this first interview around the world so nothing she does part two it's never as big as

it the sequel as part one and I think she's she's moved on to plus she's getting a lot of backlash now about this interview some of her questions are are now being brought up and her follow up was strange and the way she phrase things Oprah cuts and runs pretty fast when she's got what she wanted which was a big prime time special which was millions of people watching she moves onto the next thing maybe it is one of the smartest things that she does do she knows how to stay

alive in this business she's been in the business for 45 years and you don't get to stay alive in this business unless you are looking forward so she's not looking to go back with Harry and Meghan she's looking for the next begin to be what I'm told it's Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey however the reason that Meghan and Harry want this so much is that they are creatures of habit they play the same game over and over again even when the game doesn't work for them now arguably

this Oprah interviews set them up as the love story of the century and ultimately blew up in their face so I don't think they should be running back there but they're both addicted to attention

addicted to fame arguably there is no other interview I think at the moment that they could get

that would be as big as that but now they find out they're not going to get that one of you though she doesn't want them I'm going to send a note to that their way call her daddy I'm sure I'm sure Alex Cooper would have them on it's for me I think this is the trajectory that we're looking at Rob my theory as to why Oprah is so open to talking about the mistakes perhaps quote unquote that we're made during her first interview with Harry and Meghan now having somebody from her

camp say it's a hard no I don't even know that this came out of camp Sussex this may have come from Oprah's camp she's catching as we discussed on the on the nerve yesterday on Tuesday's nerve her school she is closing her school for girls in South Africa this was supposed to be she opened the school 20 years ago to global fanfare she said this school is going to be my legacy I am going to rescue generations of South African girls from poverty from child sex trafficking

these are the daughters that I have never had and never will have sex scandal after sex scandal

abuse scandal after abuse scandal now she's closing it she's announced she's closing it she's getting a lot of very polite coverage out of the likes of people unsurprisingly what have you the question we at the nerve raises well why you're a billionaire you could fund this enterprise so long after you're dying day you're legacy why are we closing it all of a sudden why do you think that is more even what's your theory on why is that school closing I've been asking

friends I've been hitting the phones she's got enough money to run that school for the rest of her life and the rest of probably many other people's lives too the school is relatively cheap compared to all the money that she has and so I've been trying to figure out that too why is it now I think

it's the scandals I think she loses interest actually pretty fast remember when she was going to

revolutionize weight loss with weight watchers and that didn't well to be fair she was undercut by HGL P1 explosion you mention of ozampic fucked her up but times do change like we just said about call called her daddy Oprah's no longer the only gaming town and so I think that when you look back at Oprah's career as massive as it was it isn't there now it's a different time and I think that's one of the hard things that the legacy media really really have trouble with

our friends people I know who work at people magazine or at the old con day nask publications and 10 years ago when you walked into con day nask in time square it's now downtown but you it was

Entering a magical kingdom of money and wealth and excess all that's gone now...

world and I'm not sure Oprah is that comfortable yet dealing living in this new world so so rather than get comfortable with it she's pulled her toys out of the play pen and she's gone home she doesn't want to she doesn't want to do with this by theory is that there is something that's even worse about praying regarding the school because Oprah has the kind of money connections and infrastructure where she could just be a figure head you know she could let any number of trusted

committees consortiums run that thing have that be the first paragraph of her legacy not that she

got her start in tabloid TV and satanic panic no no no no Oprah you know like single handedly educated millions of girls and lifted them out of poverty no that's not going to be it that's not going to be it now I think she's trying to distract and and you know as you said it's a different world the people magazines can do all the regurgitation of press releases from Oprah Winfrey's office that they like but there are outlets in the digital lane

that are asking really hard questions and these are questions that once asked are difficult to on here yeah yeah I's talking to my my insiders and what I can't understand is if a big scandal is about to break and often that is the case these are indications when people start to pull out when people start to get very quiet you know something big big is about to happen Oprah can't

avoid this if that school blows up the best way for for her to to have any any legacy from it

is to say I messed up and I'm going to fix it I'm going to pour my money into this I'm going to pour my time into this I'm going to hire the best people to fix this but she's not doing that she's she's she's running away from it and I did speak to a couple of people who know Oprah and they said that she's surprisingly quick to move on when she's done she's done when she decides that she doesn't care anymore she doesn't care anymore and so with Harry and Meghan it was

very transactional she pretended to be their best friends they thought they were her best friends until that interview was done and then pretty much after that interview she dropped them you know many many people who have been on the Oprah show this is one of the complaints not celebrities I don't think they really cared that much but she did a lot of human interest stories a lot of weight loss stories a lot of stories that really were very inspiring the minute the show aired

you didn't hear from Oprah again like yes it's like everyone who's ever been to a taping of the Oprah win free show has the same report when the cameras are on she turns it on she engages with the audience the cameras are off Oprah's down I've been there many times I remember the last time I went and I used to it for Alicia Keys and Alicia and Oprah were friends and so I sat with Alicia Keys backstage before the show Oprah was charming she came into Alicia's dressing room

I was sitting on the cage it was a big moment for me just staring at Oprah's really sort of

excited by it then the tape in went grey the mid the show ended the second that last note played

from her theme song boom she's gone out of there out of there cricket anybody and so I think

this is another example of Oprah just wanted to be out she doesn't want to do this anymore and she's certainly not going to use her capital to help Harry and Meghan Oprah bets on her declining capital yes yes but she tries to bed on the right horse she tries to find people who are in the moments and then when it gets a bit ugly we saw this with Michael Jackson then she she with drew draws immediately and so I think Harry and Meghan have become two toxic even for for Oprah

and what is she going to ask them and what are they going to answer and that I think the interview that we want is not an interview that they're ever going to do so white bother heck we saw her abandoned stedman gram she threw him over into the nearest shallow grave the minute she was done with that transaction you know this is something that she and Meghan really

do have in common and I think that this is part of the celebrity industrial complex that's not

discussed enough but I do think these people are either born with or develop what I consider to be a psychopathic trait of just for transactional are you have used to me in this moment and they have a level of charm and ability in front of a camera to shine it on and to seem very human Oprah more so than Meghan definitely but when they're done they're done Meghan reportedly

allegedly FedEx the wedding engagement ring back to her first husband to say I'm done you know people

consider breaking up of over tax to be like you know bridge too far this bitch set it back

Be a FedEx you know brother two fucking bees in a pot it's like there's a sen...

that oh John Aniston's quote about bad in that any fair right there's a sensitivity ship that

missing only you would do that reference yes that's what I'm pulling it from one for the ages

there's a chip missing and and we see it's and when it becomes delicious that is when it's Godzilla versus Godzilla yeah well if this was somebody else if this was a business associated if this was somebody who was at Oprah's school if this was a young girl at Oprah's school then it isn't funny it's devastating but the fact that Meghan has been bits by the person that she wanted to be friends who the fact they're worthy competitors here they're worthy adversary to hear

makes this story just so delicious I loved reporting this story as chuckling while I was writing it up I could think of two more awful people to want to use each other and ultimately they're not gonna and it just goes to show you to like Meghan picked Oprah that interview when when the first interview the only interview that interview she could have given to anybody every body wanted that oh well Rob we also know the origins and again we see from the from the origin story just how transactional

this was Meghan in Meghan and Harry invite Oprah to the wedding and Oprah says I don't know them but I'll go fly 12,000 miles go to this wedding and we all knew she was there because she was

gonna get the post-lapschew interview as she said that's what happened she got the interview

this it couldn't happen to two better people I just chuckle with this story I wonder where they'll go though now I wonder what Harry and Meghan will do in a podcast would be a really

small thing but they're too controlling they'd never allow that to happen if all Meghan

still had a podcast of her own if only had two chances with major entities to get that thing oh wow did the fact that she messed that up they can do heights with Travis and Jason Kelsey William did it they caught them because they're team William and Catherine so that's right so like that they're really boxed themselves in here because anybody that wants any association with the with the prince and Catherine with the with the whales is cannot now play with the

Sussexes I had this delicious story earlier in the week that William and Kate now Catherine are done with people magazine they're done like they've become the official man's knife piece of the Sussexes squawk box if you're gonna if you're gonna have them you can't have us and I actually think that's sort of the right way to play it they've been too kind for too long

like they gangster about this if you want to regurgitate their nonsense and say all the stuff

that that is said to you then we'll find similar else too there's too many outlets for us and again with social media they really don't need an intermediary they're messaging via social media is very clear concise strong it's very it doesn't miss a beat you know what I mean where's the messaging from Camp Sussex feels chaotic it's chaos one day this is happening the next day it's not happening one day we fucking hate the British royal family the next day Megan

can't wait to record silence she's always been supportive you know what I mean

that's not magic that's not that's not makes them so dangerous to it you don't know who's gonna show up like you just don't know they should do Joe Rogard they should sit down and do like somebody that's gonna make a mega telly would be fun they would never sit in front of a mega telly ever they would never do mega it's a it's a real predicament they've got themselves in they've done it themselves but you do know we're even hoping for things you're too complicated

it's your really the problem yeah that means Gail wouldn't have them on CBS Sunday morning's

either you know it's incredible okay I have to move on to this this other part of the Sussex

melodrama which is and this is this is continuing this is the long tale of the lady see exclusive on the nerve at night Harry allegedly reportedly according to lady sees very well sourced accounts has quote unquote another woman who he is quote unquote in love with and who is quote unquote quote unquote in love with him and Megan allegedly reportedly knows having discovered incriminating texts on Harry's phone Megan y'all who is reporting for the past four months

Only recently has the rest of the media caught on she's not been wearing her ...

she has and this is not just any engagement it's not like Harry went down to zales you know and got it on layaway this is like a major diamond source from Botswana which is we all know is very relevant to their origin story Harry took her camping there and like date three but it is flanked by two diamonds that belonged to Princess Diana who we all know Megan would love to exume skin and wear like bottle of belt so she's not wearing this engagement ring

she's sending a message what what do you think is happening here right my favorite response

and I don't believe this for one second but it made me chuckle so loud is a bit she gave

friend of mine said she's probably hooked it to pay the bills because they're not a lot of

coverage to the house I believe that for one second but we're getting to that point they're not a tiny buddy and a very

very long time anybody who has lost the job will be not a work for for a long period of time you see your bad kick out getting so full nothing if I just may on the side here you know the singer songwriter Ryan Adams who was me too and who's everybody knows this is good jazz holds nobody weeps for him he's selling all of his possessions on Instagram he's like here's my vintage like the car that's that I paid 500 grand for hey what this guitar like he's selling

everything it's a fire sale that's where we buy a dog with Harry a beggar that rig hold on to that

beggar that's actually worth something because of the Diana angle she's not wearing it on purpose if anyone has covered Megan or worked around Megan she doesn't do anything by chance she's a very calculated she's a very savvy she is a very manipulative person and that isn't a cool thing a lot of celebrities are a lot of celebrities I've worked with certainly know the power of the press Megan knows the power and she knows not wearing a ring is gonna send a message she knows it's gonna

get some sort of some sort of response in fact I would argue she's probably frustrated that it's

to four months she's probably pissed I think we didn't really share about it for four months like she thought that the

bit she took that rig off the whole world would explode we didn't care but would I we do but it

took us that's the interest in how it's delayed if a big set of if Taylor Swift was spotted out without her wedding ring yeah 10 minutes these phones would blow up yes if Nicole Kidman was spotted with a ring our phone to blow up it means four months and nobody's cared there is something big going on here I think we're ready to turn the page to close the book to move arm she did this as a stunt celebrities do this all the time I've worked with celebrities when they want to get

attention they put red wigs on or they they put rings on often they go to Miami and jump in the beach in the bikini that's a quick way to get attention not wearing your wedding ring is

is one or one PR it is the easiest thing that they teach you on the real housewives to get a

storyline to get attention so the fact she's not wearing it tells me it's not an accident it's not of the cleaners it's not because she's baking a cake she has taken it off to do the dishes we didn't pop out she didn't do that this is very much on purpose and it probably really bugs her that it's taken us so long to to notice somebody who might have noticed though is Harry maybe the message she's sent in is to him you're ladies see interview my friends who are addicted to your show my friends quote

that episode like it is an episode of friends or will they are obsessed with ladies see and you rightfully so she knows her stuff it is so easy to dismiss her because she's ridiculous and I say that in the nicest possible way she's like every aunt I've got she's like my mother the way she talks and she's so passionate so funny and so flamboyant it's easy to just dismiss all that but that that's who British people are of certain wealth I have to say here I find ladies see the

far this thing from ridiculous there is she is of a certain generation a certain breeding I mean these are these are the kinds of characters and I mean that in the in the most flattering way like ladies see is one of a kind and we we are not going to see the likes of her or her ilk again but what I found remarkable you know Harry Megan are very litigious not a heap after that interview no that explosive interview and I kind of think to your to your theorizing about okay why

the removing of the engagement ring is this a stunt to get attention to lean into those rumors or is this a real message all law will show this still image it's it's like it should be studied in

Media studies all over universities Diana posing alone outside the Taj Mahal ...

famous monument romantic love yeah yeah and that was when there were these subterranean rumblings

and the the palace was always like it's tabloid trash that their marriage is in trouble it was

in real trouble it was breaking up I also think it's akin to like when you said when housewives begin like oh we were having marital difficulties for the camera that stuff bleeds in it bleeds into

real life you have to be very careful when you start playing with that kind of you know I almost

consider it like sorcery like when I first worked with Jessica Simpson and Nicholas Shay they were really sweet together they really loved each other and then the media world sort of led into their real life and she believed her own hype and she thought she was the next Julia Roberts and he didn't really believe that and then before you know it they're divorced they're messing with stuff here Harry and Megan are messing with stuff and I think too that we're clearly

seeing that the brand of the two of them together is not working we're seeing her at places without him we're seeing him at places without her recently and so I think now that they live in a separate lives I I wrote a exclusive about this and they said that they live in the same house but it's a very large house but they don't sleep in the same bedroom and they say that's because of their schedule in is so up and down sure but yeah he works nights of course he will use the deep

back machine so there's lots of stuff this is the beginning and we've all seen it and you've done this long you've done this as long as I have you can see the fingerprints you can see the little

it's like this it's happening believe me honestly everybody's watching it's so easy to be

it's ridiculous it's not true it's like when drugs first started to talk about Monica Lewinsky oh Roger by the way was the only one that we wanted it broke it I mean like newsweek was like holding on to it they were so afraid and drugs broke it and that was it like media was changed forever forever everybody knew about Jeff Zucker and Allison happened in the fair at CNN radar were the only people with the bulls to break it and so we all knew about it hey everybody knew

about John Edwards fucking around this wife who was dying from cancer and impregnating her only outlet the inquire required to it the inquire has got bulls like and so I've learned this

so it went when stories break on the on the outside it's easy to just dismiss them never do that

that's where the real story has come from the whispers the element was a monster that didn't come from the middle it came from the from the outer circles all those whispers those stories that Jane and Banner getting back together now they're breaking all started with the whispers that's why I called my novel it started with the whispers because that's where it really does start and it you know today's today's gossip is tomorrow's news yeah yeah for what my very early

career as a 20 year old kid in New York and one of the first people I represented P.R. wise was I worked on a yarn like this TV show where Barbara Walters was the producer you know I worked on a yardler but I spent a lot of time with Barbara Walters and I remember she

said to me once in the car and I got goosebumps she said never forget this and it was before the

internet it was when we still had newspapers she said whoever runs the gossip page runs the news paper that is the truth lady C is a canary in the coal mine ignore as much as you want right or off there's something here there's something here who wouldn't like to feel less bloated more energized and more confident especially during the summer consider adding cowboy classroom to your daily routine it can improve digestion help your skin look clearer and your hair fuller cowboy also ran a

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Pay now to a real real scandal and rob your item I loved this okay the headline

hollywood new about charred letto for years the real scandal is that everyone stayed silent you

published this august one and you write long before this BBC documentary this explosive BBC

documentary stories about charred letto's interest as a middle aged man in very young women by which I mean teenagers were already circulating throughout hollywood use site the page six report we cited on the nerve last week written by my former colleague Chris Wilson who had an item alleging that the then 33 year old actor this must have been during fashion week was approaching teenage models staying at New York's then very fashionable maritime hotel by the way in a side the

maritime hotel used to be known as covenant house which was a Catholic run refuge for teenagers who were escaping sexual abuse drug addiction what have you so the maritime hotel has its own sort of shining like backstory the report continuing from the the New York post described letto

as constantly texting 16 and 17 year old girls and quoted one insider who said the behavior

was quote unquote creepy rob let's talk about the things and the people that the celebrity industrial complex and hollywood have known about for years and years and years and then they clutch their pearls in moral outrage when as we just were discussing the story gross so loud there is nowhere to hide yeah this I'm really proud of this reported it took me a long time to put this together but Chris Wilson broke this it was not me Chris Wilson broken in 2005 of 16 years ago 16 years ago

at a time when page six was probably at its most powerful this is a major major outlet this is not someone's blog this is not a Twitter account this is a major publication one of the top five paper circulation wives in America and everything goes through legal and everything goes to that celebrities representatives if not them directly exactly exactly right and so the fact that in 2005 people weren't just talking about it a major arguably the biggest columnist writing then wrote about it

it got through legal it got printed and you can still read it today on their website this was

16 years ago let me tell you it never gets better if you're caught doing something 16 years ago

you don't reform particularly if you get away with it you get worse and worse and worse so as the years went by people knew this people have read that story there were more stories there were other sort of whispers that weren't reported that didn't have enough information or facts to

get through lawyers it is very very hard to write a story like that and get it past legal that's what

happened with Harvey Weinstein he flooded the zone with lawyers you couldn't get past his lawyers the lawsuits the threat were non-end and I'm sure and he also did this thing too he a made it his business to be friend people like Carl Allen the editor and chief of the New York Post so that when these inconvenient reports surfaced oh well I'll just call my pal call and you'll make them go away which happened at least one instance that I know of well known in media circles one he would give

people at outlets like the New York Post and elsewhere book deals oh option this from you all option that that now suddenly you're you all Harvey something if you take that from him yeah Tina Bryan said she was working a talk magazine with him and she said what angered her the most was not just the sexual harassment but the fact that he gave every two bit gossip columnist in the Yorker book deal yeah they'd either had to call up and cancel the deal and then everybody hated her

Tina said that she was the most hated person in New York because she'd had to call up and say we're not doing that book it doesn't does it exist so he he used every trick in the game

Jared wasn't that smart wasn't that powerful and his trick was just being a star and just being

handsome and just being sexy and women would want him they don't want you this story has been floating around for a really long time we know this just because we can't write it because we can't say it doesn't make us cowards we we we pay our mortgage if the lawyer says no there's nothing we can do but this story has been building building building and it's like a dam you just need someone to pull

Their firm out of the dam and the whole thing's going to explode this is goin...

it gets better we're going to find out even more details about this there's lots of whispers

that's how it all starts but this is excellent important and I tip my heart I've known Chris for a

long time too I tip my hat to him he had the huts fur he had the balls in 2005 which was a different meteor environment we needed celebrities then we needed access to them the post needed to to play a celebrity's now we can burn the high style a little more now they're there are other outlets but back then for him to get this story I rereaded I spent the week and read the details the description the location the time they had him and he didn't get any better you know it's interesting Rob

I've hearing you talk about you just in stark black and white that report that Chris wrote was 16 years ago he was a pausing reporter pausing and and this is the same jarred letter that the entire celebrity media industrial complex propped up they cast him in them they put him in a

Dallas buyer's club with Matthew McConaughey knowing that that was Oscar bait that part

and he got nominated and he won and that doesn't happen without the machine coalescing around you and pushing you and pushing you and everybody knew in the BBC doc there's a there's a woman who says hey I was 16 he texted me an invitation before the Oscars do his private Oscar party and she shows the invite everybody knew they know it's it's so hot breaking more in we hope to adopt past this 16 years ago he's not that long ago it sounds like a really long time but this has

been going on a long time you know what we heard rumors about Jeffrey Epstein it just takes up a moment and it's so it makes me so angry that then people clutch their pearls that Merrill

Streep never knew about Harvey Weinstein and we'd all if we'd all heard about it and so

you know if my intern who lives in Queens had heard about Harvey Weinstein Merrill Streep had heard about what they heist of and they choose not to see it it's not that they don't see it it's a choice not to see but then to reward him with an Oscar to give him a role in the first play in the role you're giving this guy a role about a community of men who were completely marginalized and left to die and stigmatized and you choose a predator like that how fucked in the head is that industry

huh just some of rumors for a long time on my hammer that's very true there was rumors we'd heard the rumors that's very true it's

shocking to me I think you're allowed to say maybe I was fooled but you can't class be pearls and it

takes a lot of people now to stand up you know Anna Winters never said a word about Didi

Clive Davis is now dead but he had a long time to say a lot about Didi he never did what did they know what did Anna look what it clive due to Didi right there were always those rumors that clive made Didi engage in certain sexual acts in order to get where he was yeah Clive paid for that company aristorecords owned bad boy it was I think a 50 million oh they bought that way no no yeah so the reason the bad boy existed was aristor and so they they're they're connected and they blinded by money

and it's not about what's right or wrong it's about the bottom line and if you keep making money and Hollywood they'll forgive you and you know Jared letter has still not been dumped by his agents it's good I've been five four four three you want to talk about the next fire sail like Kevin Spacey oh I got to sell this property and we've not you know we don't get our properties to sell we do about him everything you know about Kevin Spacey with all her the story about him I'm happy

that these stories are coming guy better late than never and better late than never because if

you know how many more are behind Jared waiting to be exposed yeah you know the pigs the pigs now I want to ask you you mentioned Anna having not said a word about Didi it's been announced this is amazing that the next honoree of the Met Gala 2027 is none other than John Galliano of of drunken anti-semitic rants telling a table of women next to him in a cafe in Paris or restaurant in Paris you're ugly I can tell you're a Jew you would have been gasped gasped

excuse me um now this is this is interesting because there is a growing revolt you report it's a vote not a but nice your your subject here's the magazine's new editor in chief

Hapless listless sad puppet Chloe mal is under intense pressure to break her ...

challenge the decision rob I see this as two stories one is does John Galliano remain the honoree and what does this mean for the future of Vogue and the ability of the so-called taste makers

to dictate to us and second Galliano to me is another proxy war and another chess move by Anna

went to our over control of Vogue this is why I think this is I think she's trying to check

make Chloe to interest it's Chloe it was Chloe's father Jewish was Louis Malchewish I think he was Jewish yeah it's kind of spoken it's it's the most shocking casual announcement I've ever seen on a Friday just a casual announcement Friday news top rising news dumb as you know there's something wrong she knows there's something wrong it's just so tone deaf it's Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez going to sponsor the ball this year if he's there who what celebrities are going to turn up

can Kim Kardashian come with her connection with Kanye West after the things he said is Kanye West gonna host the ball this year he might as well if John Galliano American why not have Kanye as a chair he said he loves Hitler too and so it is just so tone deaf but it's worse than that it's so arrogant that she thinks she can get away with this and she might I have all the sponsors pull out I hope the met the people that that that that that run the met pull their

doors and say we don't want it here you're not going to do an event it's an event to celebrate him it's not that he's turning up at a met ball to sit at a table that would be bad enough he's the guest of honour the costume institute at the metra ballad a museum we'll put on an exhibit of his clothes do you have any Jewish donors contribute to the life of the met it's so shocking for real she's flexing a muscle she's doing it with Blake Lively she did it

with Mark Hacer remember Georgina Chapman Harvey Williams his wife she tried to bring her back in her Chloe if you're listening to them this is your moment to change your history at that magazine stand up resign this does this goes through this is the moment where you where you stand on that hill and you draw a line it is so wrong I will be shocked if this actually happens because money now is gonna kick in well I've had designers by tables these tables are $300,000 who are they are going

to be the sponsor of this who's going to host it you're not going to get Beyonce you're not going to get the big stars to this and so it's also tone deaf and I hope that Chloe does the right thing

I doubt she will but she's so weak she's a jellyfish that's why I'm a picture right she's about to

prove that I fear okay onto another explosive report Keith Urban quote absolutely devastated the subject of the cocaine clause is shocked that is ex-wife Nicole Kidman has moved on and which I think she's doing bigger and better she was she was photographed with a silver fox like on vacation he's cute it's he's 59 his name is Michael Ryanstein if I'm saying it right he's a private equity businessman exactly who women who are twice divorced and major stars at this

stage of their life need you need a fucking hot business man who is no interest in celebrity bullshit

Urban is not never the last according to this report in the Daily Mail said to be wary this is

come as a blow a blow would allegedly Urban had allegedly continue to hope that they would one day repair their relationship repair and rekindle two different things now the quote from an insider is don't be surprised if Keith steps out with a quote revenge romance ever so okay Rob this to be says all these quotes are coming from camp urban because Nicole left him reportedly allegedly because he was cutting around with a number of young women in Nashville he was on stage repurposing

a love song he had written for Nicole singing it to one of his backup musicians a woman half Nicole's age what is this guy think he's doing what does he think he's doing he knows that this gravy train is coming to an end that he rode the Nicole Kidman train for a long time he wouldn't have been invited to the Oscars or the Golden Globes or the big partners that she gets invited to even in the divorce as long as she was still single they were connected he still

had the Nicole story to tell if she moves on it's the end of the chapter and so he's terrified I think

that this is over wait until the kids get to like this guy and meet him they haven't met him yet

they'll never speak to their dad I think ever again the kids know what happened the Nicole knows

what happens it will come out it always does he'll take him in it but it will come out for him to be devastated about it I bet he is I bet he is devastated but not because he loves her or is it decent man he's devastated because he just lost the golden goose she's gone she ain't coming back

You blew and she made sure that those photos like those did not happen by act...

see in our final story these these paparazzi are called to get the most flattering images of

the happy new couple yes yes well you look that good if she was picking her nose in the pictures

I'd love maybe they were a coincidence she is she looks glorious he looks glorious that they're setting themselves it was a real clear stage to find a shoe she wants to sat there she's the one let's drive in this good for her I'm a team Nicole on this one agreed okay two more quick hits yes yes yes and Andy Cohen accused of hiring still blocked still blocked like oh no gratifying he's accused of hiring Madonna's daughter Mercy James who is 20 to work

backstage at watch what happens live Madonna come and get your daughter nothing good happens around Andy Cohen's for know this that's right run for the hills so Abby's been a long time Madonna fan if he's asked me asking any times what's the one guess who's the one guess you'd like

to be on your show that you've never got he always stays Madonna I've been to Madonna concerts

and I've seen him try to get her attention he puts it all on his jumping up and down it really hurts him that Madonna does have some relationship with Anderson Cooper who is his friend but she doesn't have a relationship with her to Cohen there is no way that Andy would have hired this young lady to work at his show if it didn't benefit Andy he's gonna use this as bait to get the queen there

but I don't think going on his show is enough I think he wants to be friends with with Madonna oh yeah

not gonna happen he's gagging for I just want to show this really funny clip of Andy this is how

Andy will debase himself a television camera wherever it is on QVC Rob on busy Phillips's short

live failed talk show on QVC and two years ago okay this is she's asking him about his failure to secure Madonna for a watch what happens live appearance this is one year before the nerve ever existed team Madonna all fucking day long here we go patty woman did calm did did calm Madonna a movie killer she did yeah yes and then Madonna called me a trouble making queen last time I saw her in concert she's like when she thought you talking about me on your show you're a trouble making queen

that's our that's our appellation for Andy from now until kingdom come trouble making queen you are a trouble it's a it's a title here he weighs it's an odd you've gotten there he loves her so much he wants her so much and it really does give me so much pleasure that she just flicks him away like a fly she's like an ad she doesn't want it no okay our final item yes people magazine Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox vacation together on a yacht off the coast of

Spain okay it's Jennifer Courtney Pedro Pascal Jason Bateman I think Jessica Seinfeld may be here

and Jen's boyfriend Jim Curtis okay now there I think this serves two purposes one is Jennifer is going to interview Jim very shortly in September at the 92nd Street Wy for his new book about finding yellow butterflies in order to suffocialize number six excuse my cold number two all of these photos we've got the day after day after day this yacht on water toys etc back grid rub back grid has been called by team Aniston I'm sure she's paying the bill for this entire

thing so we can all see her abs at 57 and the boyfriend you definitely maybe is not using her for her money it's just who they are whatever anybody tells you and I've had this said to me leave them alone they love this the coolest thing we could do more in and I've done this is if you really upset me I just ignore you I stopped you I'm engaged with you I'm done that's so Jennifer is loving this I've got a bit if I was Jen so I just saw the ramp and I had

those abs maybe I would flash them around to me they they look great have it him on that boat though she's so desperate that those rumours don't get out that she's paying for everything that he's using her a story that I did I broke the story that they were going to get in the 92nd Street Wy together her people were furious why yeah because it's not that I got on any fact think factually wrong they're going to be in the Wy it's cracked I'm right that if you go to the Wy website there and

It's up there it's that I broke it before they had a way to break it with peo...

and massage it into isn't she just the best and you know she didn't want to do this he didn't

want her to do this she volunteered exactly against against his dire protests he said you know

you mustn't let her to your team and your money don't do it without Jennifer honest in there are five people are showing up five it's that the price the ticket price is a hundred dollars so that's ninety nine dollars to jade a one to Jim Curtis I mean come on John I cannot wait for this media rollout we have to get tickets are you going to get tickets we're going

to get two we'll go together do you have a summer cold I do have a summer cold I do too

I woke up this morning light I croaked through my podcast I took a disco nap before joining you

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on Saturdays mini which I declared was basically a depiction of teddy in space and you know

teddy as an astronaut wanting to become the latest member of the nerve family to voyage into space so that gal wouldn't be under the delusion that she's so special don't call it a ride I'm inspirational have you been have you been pal from New Zealand gives us his depiction of teddy in space we're going to take a look here I died okay he's got pause even on the bottom of his space boots he's wearing his nerve logo he's carrying even in outer space his magnifying glass

with none other than stedman gram and Paul was short to include the original that inspired teddy in space this is stedman in space depicted as gal space junk that this is how gal and Oprah got rid of the remains Paul love you as ever love you Paul also wrote in response to the application that the nerve received from trouble maker at the Kimberly Anne heard her husband's beagle big back applying to become

Teddy's personal assistant in the stedman investigation Paul writes perhaps we need to teach the nerve beagle how to spell stedman your nerve sub-stack artwork and correctly has the spelling STAD and man gram instead of STAD and Paul we know but we don't like to extinguish enthusiasm you know sometimes you don't want to let the perfect be the enemy of the good sticklers the way though we are for spelling and grammar we love the big back

His application big back rather and it is currently under review with the fir...

the prodigal son this is from a listener from the beginning trouble maker M from Oregon

who is a little surprised he writes by Billy Bush's take on Harry potentially being welcomed back by King Charles and even Prince William with open arms but then Mark writes it occurred to me that I grew up reading the Bible and learning the story of a father's love even after his share of the inheritance was squandered and the prodigal son literally dragged the family name through the mud the father not only took him back but had managed the other son for being angry about it

now I'm going to say something that some may feel heretical but I don't believe that every

story in the Bible necessarily has the correct resolution I would say because I think the

father of the prodigal son was kind of a stooosh okay I don't think you just literally forgive with no consequence or you can forgive but that doesn't mean you get back in you don't mean there are many ways to forgive anyway trouble maker M writes I have to say I am with William on this one I am to trouble maker M William is the toiling working son keeping not only the family name intact but the monarchy intact yeah I was a little surprised by Billy's take too but

he was reporting his own experiences on the ground when he was covering both Queen Elizabeth's funeral and the preparations for Charles's coronation so far be it for me I was not there but I do

agree with you trouble maker M. Moreen it's an alert hoda copy is be fouling or land of family

magazine I love it when we see people who consider themselves major movers and takers in the culture major celebrities like when you find them in your dentist's office on the cover of this shit or land of fat no offense or land of family magazine sure you're a very nice collection of people who put this out but or land of family magazine and look at hoda's name the way it's art directed on the cover like it's an episode of wheel of fortune can you get these words can you get this can you

figure this out apparently trouble maker Angie writes she quote she has no regrets about leaving the hit morning show to dedicate her life to her young children we all know that her actual life's work is finding the nearest camera similarly our last one Lauren Sanchez the space invader we and where we began this segment of trouble maker feedback I received this in the mail this is trouble maker sandy a couple of days ago and thought you get a good laugh out of it this is a free

publication called peninsula delivered to our neighborhood in rancho palas vera days california it is Lauren Sanchez Bayzos on the cover of peninsula magazine promoting her new children's book yes with all of Jeff Bayzos's money and connections that's where we land keep your feedback coming email me at marine a devil maker media.com or DM me on instagram at marine calahan writer or

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