‘The Good Son’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey

big picture with Sean Fantasy. That's right. We're a newsletter writer. Yeah. Production projections.

Good. You know, we're in like week seven and I'm like, all right, so just every week, we do this cranking out 2,000 words, you know, you did it for what 20 years. It's work. Get into the habit.

Yeah. It's got to keep those fingers moving. Yeah, what are you going to start moving? I all I do is pot. I don't write anymore.

You know, I'm following in his footsteps. My fingers are broken. Okay. Yeah, the difference is you'll go on all the pods. Yeah, it's right.

You're like dominant and the 90s taking dinner and by it's during the O.J. trial. What happened? Table for 10. What did you do? Was it Ben Shapiro this week?

What are you doing? You did. Okay. We are still in from Hell. What?

What? We are still in from Hell month. Sean, you haven't officially been on from Hell month. No, happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

“This is a nice follow-up for 2000 of what I think.”

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I'm going to give you my top three ever. And then we could decide who's in the fourth spot on kids from Hell Mount Rush. I made a top 10 list just so you know. Oh, you did? I did.

Why don't you do yours? I'll give you mine. Well, the OGs, Damian Omen. It's all for you, Damian. Yeah.

Michael Myers. Oh, I guess that was funny. I didn't listen. Sure. Sure. What?

No, this is why you're you. It's because you see the whole landscape. You're right. You're right. I watched him for 15 years.

That's staying at the wall. Steering through the wall. I would argue in his childhood.

“Michael was relatively dormant though, right?”

Like he had the one. He killed the system. He had one bad night. He's a tough night. He had one bad night.

He had one bad night. He had one bad night.

So I have him and I have King Joffrey as my third one.

Oh, great. Oh, great. I didn't. Jeffrey, like underrated. Joffrey.

Kind of, yeah. McColley in this movie is kind of the blueprint for Joffrey. Yeah. We're just like, it's just pure malevolence all the way down. So I did a slightly different version of it.

I did. There's something wrong with the kid movies, which is not quite sweet. Same as just evil. But it's, it's in the, it's in the zone. So what else do you have?

Number 10. There's two village of the Dam movies. 60. And then carpenter remade it in 95. Number nine, recent movie late night with the devil.

Yeah.

“Where a young girl gets possessed on live television.”

So you count possessions for I am counting possessions. Okay. Because the kids are just as tough on it. Well, we'll get there. Number eight is Brightburn.

I'm going to be I know you like. Really like Brightburn.

What if Superman was evil, basically?

The good son is number seven. Number six is the bad seed. Huge inspiration for the good son. I have the omin it five. I have we need to talk about Kevin at four.

Kevin over Damian. Kevin over Damian. Number three orphan, which is absolutely better. Number two, the shining. Because Danny at first,

we're like, is Danny going to be the problem here. Now, there is kind of something wrong with Danny. I don't think I shines. Really thought that, but yeah, I'm going to. Okay.

I wrote what you're talking about. And then number one, of course, is Reagan in the exercise. I had her as well. To you left out children of the corn. Yeah.

Yeah. He wants you to marry Kai. Can we do that please one day? Can we do children. Can you re-watch it though?

It's really bad. It's not that good. But I want it. I just want it to be like, I'm going to show it. But it has a couple good scenes, but it's pretty rough.

And then the other one I had, which actually watched in preparation for this podcast, the movie that I somehow missed. Now, as 92, the era graduate of college. No recollection of this coming out. I don't think it was really released in the theaters that much.

And then became a cult classic after. It's called Mikey.

I've never seen this before.

I was reading Ryan Bonsal, who was the little kid that got added at the end of family ties. When they made the class of ladies sick on the stake of, we need to mix things up on the show. Yeah. Oh, the parents are pregnant again. Mikey's insane.

It's on Amazon. Thirdly enjoyed it.

And the white guy from Miami Vice John Deal.

One of the backup cops. Yeah. They're both in it. He's like literally a serial killer. So I said like a nine year old.

I read that this was one of three movies that were all banned around the same time, including the goods on in England. Because there were some copycats stuff. Yeah. And they were worried about that with this, with the goods on here too, where they were just like if people see Colkan break it back. This is going to be terrible.

I got to say Mikey is a nice little appetizer for the good son. It's like the more ridiculous to be crazy version of it. What are your evil kid takes?

“I mean, I think Kevin is actually pretty high up there for me.”

It's a very sturdy one Kevin. That's like a really disturbing one. That's almost more realistic. You know, I mean, that's like a you need a shower after that movie. Yeah.

Also though, the kid who played Kevin as a mentor now to be fucking kuku for Coco Puss.

You could throw just from recently like you could you could make an argument about the young version of this and day a character from the drama. Oh, that's funny. That's it. Great. And you could make the argument that a Lana Himes character is even worse.

We don't see her childhood. Yeah, we'll hear about her childhood. She sounds almost more sociopath. She does. So you're counting orphan.

Well, it does turn out. It's a 35 year old romance boilers for or 2009's orphan. Come on. Seventeen years old. That's one of the great twists, though, in recent movie history.

The reveal at the end, I was just like absolute fucking loopy. It's a massive massive hit with the Simmons family. As you know, the Simmons family watches all of these and the good son is the perfect family movie because it's. It's no one's pushing it, but not really.

It's scary, but not totally.

It's creepy, but it has an okay. It's like 9% better than a TV movie of the week. And it's that it's that 9% where it flies, you know. So what, so what do you want from any of the kid movies? Do you like the satanic possession angle?

Or do you like? No, I like it to be in the parents' hands of like, what are we going to do about this? Because obviously like the instinct and this movie dramatizes it really well. As the instinct is like, I would give up my life for my kid.

“And the only thing in the matters is my kid.”

There's nothing that my kid could do that wouldn't make me love it. And this movie asks you, but what if, what if that wasn't the case? Or what if you were pushed to such a far extreme that I'd to make a choice? How old's your daughter now? She'll be five in July.

This is fucking conversation. No, it's not going to worry. I think you're going. So you're going to be around a lot of kids and a lot of parents from this point on. There's going to be the one kid where you're like, hey.

Yeah. And if his name is Damian or Kevin, you've already been prejudiced again. There will be, there will be the jokes. Yeah. Believe me, I made them.

I was back in the day. I was at a birthday party with Alice in January. And there was a balance house at the birthday party. I'll just say there was one kid who is pushing the limits of sadism in the balance house. I'll say delighting in.

It's definitely punishing people in that case from that moment on. Is that kids named Payman? Yeah. Payman? Yeah.

Payman? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Payman's a good one.

Yeah. Yeah. Payman's definitely in there. Yeah.

“Because well, there's two different versions for the parent, right?”

One is a jerkhead and you're constantly trying to convince yourself that the kid's fine, which is with so great about that Kevin movie. The movie that I would not buy on 4K Blue Ray, because I don't ever want to see it again. I definitely want it. I wouldn't want to be like, hey, what are we doing tonight?

We're talking about Kevin. Like, yeah, we got a bunch of people there. I'll see. So you have that, but then you have the other version is the someone else has that kid. Do we want our kid to interact with that?

Yeah. Right. Which is a whole other. And this movie kind of introduces that, and it's in the plot structure. We're sort of like, what if a normal kid or at least what we think is a normal kid

is introducing to a world where there's something wrong with the other kid. So like we have, it's not through the eyes of the parents. It's through the eyes of another child, which is an uncommon thing in these kinds of movies. Usually it's through the eyes of the parents. So I think that's part of what is effective about this movie.

Yeah, all the adults are pretty much viewed through the POV of the kids. Yeah. And that's like different and say how we did with Hannah Rochcia Cradle, where kind of jumps around a lot. You're kind of given insight into what's going on here or there before the characters know it.

This is all like, I have a lot of like picking nits about Uncle Wallace and some stuff like that. But like, all we see of him is what the Mark and Henry characters. And we're really what the Mark character sees. Evil Henry played by McColle Corkin in a phenomenal performance. The manipulative stuff is great.

Everything, all the shit he's doing, he's like, hey, Mark wants to, Mark wants to stay in Richard's room. He's like, no, I don't. He's just constant like pushing buttons, figuring out where the limits are. And just trying to quietly torture people.

He's the Tiger Woods of gaslighting. Yeah.

It would have been an incredible run for him.

It ended really soon. You know, rendered early. Yes. Yeah. You want to make some sort of consequences.

But what would have been his, his 99 US. You know, like, what?

“What could he have done at college or in the professional works?”

Yeah. I had that written down how I wish he hadn't died. And I wanted more stuff for them for the sequels. Like, he's running a gambling ring. Yeah.

Yeah. Just where else could it go? I just was on drugs. He was for him. I mean, he really, he was reaching for the stars right out of the shoot.

He was like, what I will do is, I'll murder my brother. Yeah. He was he was building weapons. I mean, it wasn't going to end well for, for Henry no matter what. But yeah.

He had a shed. Mr. highway that he built his fake fake dummy that he could throw to highway. This movie also really taps into something that I think all three of us have talked about a bunch over the years, which is when we were growing up, your parents were just like, all right.

We'll see in nine hours. Yeah. Like, what did you do with all of this free time when no one was looking after you, which is like, not the experience I'm having as a parent? I'm pretty aware where my daughter is at all times.

Yeah. But when we were kids. Sure. You could just build Mr. highway man in a shed. This might end at the latch key parenting generation.

Seriously. So like, we need to make sure it's not a tail end. We don't have a person. Yeah. This is right.

The 90s were when this started a flip around and people started to become a little more sophisticated. Yeah. Yeah. He has this shed where he is Mr. highway.

He has basically the fucking attention.

Yeah. He's got a little country-frolled men's gun. Yeah. Call this. I want to see the stuff at my shed.

He has a treehouse that it's like 50/50. You're going to follow your death trip. A death trip. Yeah. This guy who's given free rain to go play on cliff sides in the winter in New England,

where they could just get blown off. And highway overpasses. They're just hanging out around the highway. And on train tracks. The number of places where they go and just hang out.

Every single space where they go is dangerous. Yeah.

“It's almost like the only thing they're missing is the subway with the third rail where you'd get electrocuted.”

It's kind of like a final destination movie. Yeah. They keep putting the characters in scenarios where something terrible is about to happen here. Did you know anything about this movie before you watched it? Zero.

If you assumed Colkan was the good son going into it. Liz and I were like, it has to be Colkan's the good kid, right? They would never. He's a star coming off home alone.

There's no way he's going to be bad.

But it was a way. But and even the way Elijah would has a look to him that I thought could be portrayed as sinister. So I was surprised. They went the other way. But they were both perfect for him.

He does a good job. You can help the movie. Exactly. Ridiculous movie. It had, oh, I had one more thing about the frum hell all stars.

We're constructed in the perfect family. Sleeping with the enemy guys, the dead. Patrick Bergen, yeah. I think you mentioned an every frum hell month. I think the director, by the way.

Just a fru bit. Just a fru bit. Just a fru bit. We're going to talk about him. I think the mom can't be a frum hell.

I think you need one person in the frum hell movie who's not from hell. The mom who's constantly overlooking the science. That's something bad's happening. Oh, yeah. Okay.

That's like a Julia Roberts type of actress. Whatever. McColley Culkin and Alicia Silverstone is the two kids. Sure. I think she's the older sister.

The more days the nanny. Of course. Glenn close is the mistress.

“And then I think Kathy Bates Vince Vaughan and same Jackson all live next door.”

Who's that with Tim Robbins and whoever his wife was in Arlington. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're prostrate. Okay.

Just do some effi. This is like you're all star team up of all the from hell. Yeah, this is it. They're all there. But there's Arlington rodent from hell month.

No. But I do like that. It is a good one. Nothing better than when you guys look at each other talking about a semi obscure movie. The nobody cares about and decide you're going to devote a lot of time to it on this show.

No one's still in that. Who's it? Now there's a really good actress in it, too. I don't know. It's been a long time since it is a Mark Pellington director.

Yeah. Director of the Jeremy video. Yes. It's a good movie. It's got nice twist.

So when I watched it over at Christmas break and she loved it. But she seems to like all of this movie. Road from hell. Arlington. Well, road from hell would also be like you turned.

Yeah, or the hitter. Yeah, or dual. Truck from hell. Truck from hell. This movie also had one of the great random endings of all time.

Random? Yeah. Where it's like, this is whatever. It's a stupid from hell movie. But the choice of the mom holding the two kids over the cliff.

It's incredible. I think I got 20 years of column jokes out of this about who you choose. Jaylinner Jason. Hold them over the cliff. It's Jaylin.

Let's go. Dad. Give me your other head. Where are you at on that right now? I dropped Jaylin.

You did. Yeah. I just. On this day. Yeah.

So we're taping this on June 4th.

Yeah. You think he gets treasure in the drug? I would say 70, 30, not on the Celtics. Wow. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah.

“By the time people listen this, maybe he won't be on the Celtics.”

But yeah. The good son analogy. I would. I would have it with you guys. I got.

Yeah. CR and Sean. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

CR and Sean. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. What's crazy about this though?

Is that indicate? Who did I drown then in that analogy? Yeah. Sean tried to throw a rock on you. No, I was thinking both of you up.

I figured I had something to drink. I'd say both of you guys. They filmed this though. It's no CGI because we don't have CGI back then. No.

They have people on. You know, those things. They're actually dangling. They're all at various points. They're all dangling from harnesses.

And at some point, Kalkin had to do like a 30 foot drop for the end that he. They rehearsed it for weeks. They rehearsed all the and it's why it looks so cool. Because you're watching. Like how are they doing this?

Yeah. And he must have cracked land on one of those big parachute landing spots. Well, when when when he cruised his character goes down. Um, and it's clearly a stunt woman. But like it does not look like she's hardest anything.

No. She can actually. She falls on like the outcropping of the of the trees and rocks. That's so nuts. In general.

So Joseph Rubin mentions director. The way he shoots this. It's really good.

“I think it's like a really well done move.”

I totally agree with you. Yeah. But like my whole take on the movie is is that it. It's ironically written by one of the great novelists of our lifetimes. And it's a very trashy and clearly like it was rewritten and kind of stripped down.

And it's like not a good script. But it is made with a level of Hollywood craft that is extremely high for such a junky piece of material. And because I think more or less disowned the movie or whatever, even though he got arbitration credit for it was like the idea was to do something very low class in a higher way. Right. You know, so it does make sense.

The thing that this movie has is just the the two kid performances are among the best you can really get. They're fantastic. Yeah. And they're there now. I think why they acknowledge us like two of the great child stars in the history of movies.

Yeah. It's funny. This whole era and the movies were done. I felt like basically it's like going to a diner and having like the best patty melt, the best fries and the best shake. That's what these movies are.

Yeah. They're all really well done with good actors. Like we did single way female. And Jennifer Jason leads like great net movie. Yeah.

And it's also really well directed. Then we did a hint that rocks a cradle. Just Curtis Hanson. Yep.

Couple years before he does LA confidential and the warrant is incredible in that.

And this movie like this would just be like a fucking lifetime movie 20 years later. But it's like a 20 million dollar movie that had the hottest star under 21, probably the last 50 years. Yep. And it's really good. And he basically I was trying to think of any comp.

I was hoping you could help me of somebody who would have been like the America's sweetheart. Big huge movie star for his. Rare is it is that it's a child like this to be like. By for my next act, I'm going to be Hannibal Lecter in in a movie like even though I am currently still like. I'm Kevin McAllister and everybody knows him.

It was honestly a great tag. Yeah. I mean because it's like he you have a five year window and your kids start. It's not going to last. It's just not.

You're going to grow up. You're going to look awkward and people aren't going to stay with you. And they I thought they did a good job of like reinventing him. Well, it's it's such a complicated conversation because obviously his father was playing such a big role in kind of charting the path for his career. And this was really important to his dad to to mess with.

Yeah. Well, he was talking. He was talking like he was. A bread pit. Glenn Powell or Brad.

Yeah. He's like, we got to mix it up. We got to show exactly. You can play dark. And I'm like, he's eight.

Right. What are you like? What are you doing? That's what I mean. There are other a lot of other examples of like young child stars over the years.

Like Mickey Rooney was like this. Elizabeth Taylor was like this, Shirley Temple was like this. They got their starts really early on. And then when they started to get into their teens and their 20s, if they stuck around in Hollywood, that's when they would start darkening their persona and taking on more challenging stuff.

And sometimes playing the villains to kind of upset your expectations. But like you said, he's 10 years old.

“I think when he makes this movie or 11 years old.”

Well, he breaks through an Uncle Buck and he steals everything. Yeah. And then home alone is a phenomenon in 1999. And it's one of the biggest movies of the 1989. It's right. And then does the micro thing, which was a big deal.

That he died from micro me. I loved micro me. Yeah. And then the dad, who were about to talk about Kit Culkin. He, they wanted to do home alone too.

And he's like, that's fine. But I want my son to be in the good son. And they're already like a head of the director. They have the stars. They're about to make it.

And he basically gets in the stop production way to year for him to finish home alone too.

But the next one's after this, we're getting even with dad with Ted Denson. But two people right after you would have wanted them, like three years after. And then Richie Rich. And then it was over. He stopped acting.

Yeah. When does the club movie come out? When does party monsters like 10 years later? Yeah. After those stops at 14 gets married at 18 to an actress.

Ebert, who hated this movie about as passionate as anything we've covered in 440 vicious reviews. She's like, could not have been more upset about how much he hated it. He wrote during this movie. What we're called as parents thinking. When they pushed him in a movie where he drowns his baby sister, tries to drown his little sister,

wants to push his mother out the cliff. If this kid grows up into another one of those pathetic screwed up former child stars,

we're always spilling their guts on the talk shows.

A lot of adults will share the blame. Hmm. It's kind of half what happened. Hello, he seems like a very well adjusted older adult. But with that, I've happened to McCullocholk and even if he didn't make the good son.

I mean, you could just say that being exposed to that level of fame and being involved in the project that he was involved in before that. To me, the Ebert reading on this is really interesting because he always gets a little bit caught up in the morality. He had a hard time with slash or movies. He has a hard time with like juvenile comedy and he has a hard time with really mean spirited movies historically.

Yeah. And he comes down really hard on them. He almost always overlooks the craft. He thinks really about like the feeling which I love about him. But he's like so hard on this movie because all he's thinking about is little kids who love McCullocholk and watching McCullocholk and the movie.

“Yeah, I mean, I was too, is that a way to look at the movie?”

I don't think I was like as engaged. On the opposite. I'm like, this movie's fucking awesome. Well, I think it now. It's almost easier to look at as a museum piece than probably in the moment.

In the moment. I'm sure it was just like the kid from home alone is like a multiple time murderer. He's like, yeah. But I think it adds like an interesting layer of like twisted psychology to the whole entire movie. If you think about the fact that McCullocholk and his father wanted him to play Henry.

Yeah. Like that's fucked up. You know, but it does give the movie itself like a little bit of like, Oh, like, this is some seasoning. I didn't expect to have this off screen narrative into it.

To Craig's point, but when he's at the unwatch it, he never thought in a million years.

McCullocholk would be the villain. Yes. I remember seeing the trailer before a movie with the trailer probably started running maybe three four years because three, four months before. We didn't have the same kind of knowledge of what was coming back then as much.

And the trailer was really good and it was like. Wait, is he what's going on here? Yeah. And it's not a shocking. The trailer's really good. Like they did. He's got the flashlight and it's clear that he's going to be the creepy guy.

So there was a awareness that it was him. The movie now, though. I guess if it was like, if it was an R. E. Aster movie, it would be it would be as mean spirited. But for the most part, if this was a studio drama now, they would give you at least some indication of why Henry is the way that he is. They would psychologize him.

They wouldn't just make a movie about a sociopathic eight year old. That it will or there be a demonic possession or something. This movie is just this kid is evil. That's it. Is that better or worse, though? I don't think it's better. I don't think it would have been better.

“I think it's more enjoyable than it's just like this is evil incarnate.”

I don't know if not knowing why he is the way he is and just thinking that he's just a bad character. My favorite part of the research was apparently the novelization is just like he's a sociopath. Nothing bad happened to him. Right. He came out like this.

I mean, that was basically what the Kevin movie tried to do too. Kevin was just like,

I'm there's just always been something a little off with this kid.

Kit Kolkin. You know who his sister was? His sister. She's she's the ice-skate girl. She's the dog Kolkin.

His father. Oh, Kit Kolkin who's his sister? Bonnie Bedelia. Oh, no kidding. No.

Yeah. Bonnie Bedelia is there. Bonnie Bedelia is because of Kolkin's aunt. Wow. Bonnie Bedelia and presumed innocent and Henry in this movie.

“And would we be able to get along, I think.”

He could have been in the house. New York Times wrote a big piece about Kit Kolkin in 1993 that I entered. Did you guys read this? No. No.

It's basically about Kit Kolkin. Why is this guy so powerful? And it coming off home alone too, which made $373 million. Mr. Kolkin was just rated the 48th most powerful person in Hollywood by premier magazine. A head of Michael Douglas and Eddie Murphy.

Earlier this month, he signed an $8 million contract with MGM for getting him with dad. And then it goes into all the stuff that when he decided I want my son to be in the good son. And everyone in Hollywood is like, it doesn't work this way, man. You can't just bully people around. And he's like, yeah, it does.

If my son's a big enough star and guess what, he's one of the bigger stars in the world.

And you're going to give me this.

“And I'm going to make this amount of money.”

And apparently it was just a nightmare. There's all these details about fights about everything where the cameras set up for a shot. Whereas here's done properly, scenes we written. You just, he was just running the show for two, three years. Yeah.

And what happens as soon as the star starts to fade. Hollywood's like fuck this guy. And that was it. What's weird is that he's estranged from everybody. Yes.

Max talked to him and his kids on 20 years. Yeah. He talked. He didn't interview recently. Did he?

He was on the Kate and Oliver Hudson sibling revelry podcast. No. Yeah. I don't know. Did we need to add that to the career?

Kate and Oliver Hudson have a podcast. Apparently. Okay. He said McCalli said him and his seven living siblings and all of their kids are all estranged from Kit-Colk and intent and intent to keep it that way.

Yeah. I mean, wasn't there also a lot about the way that the money was managed and who got what? Also, I feel like a part of the controversy there. And so they, I think they all resent that in addition to the way that he did. Well, they had the Rooney role where you're protected somewhat.

But I still feel like he could probably grab stuff under the table left. The Rooney role like the Mickey Rooney role? Yeah. Not like they are. Because I think he just got completely demolished by his parents.

Yeah. All the money he made.

“That's what's going to happen to Ben Simmons.”

Hopefully you guys aren't estranged. Uh-huh. Hopefully you and Ben are not estranged at any point. So far we're doing great. Elijah Wood, who.

Really has a nice IMDB and has been in a lot of stuff. One of the great careers. Yes. The war, the ice storm, deep impact, the faculty. But build some of his favorite.

Yeah. Three Lord of the Rings movies, the Eternal Sunshine. Um, beat out Jake J. on Hall for Lord of the Rings. Roger Ebert once called them the most talented actor in his age group in Hollywood history. And it's just age beautifully.

Like has really like every five, seven, eight years or whatever. When he's kind of like moved into a different period of his life. It's been like in a movie that is like appropriate for that. Like it's it's just been a real pleasure. We talked about him in the ice storm podcast.

Just a really good actor. He's terrific in that movie. Great in this movie. Yeah.

He's kind of always great.

It's weird because he. Um, you know, he has one year later he's in north. Which is like one of the legendary bombs. Yeah. And he just keeps on trucking.

You know, like he's like in ice storm a couple years later. He's in a movie. He's in the war the year after that. Like he didn't. He didn't miss a beat. He didn't.

It's interesting to kind of map him alongside McColle Colkan who seemed like an absolute rock and ship. Like there was nothing that would ever take him down. And hit like he said his crew basically stops after richy rich. And. And Elijah would have still going.

Yeah. He's just in ready or not, too. Yeah. My guess is Colkan still probably bank and stuff off the movie. He made.

I'm sure there's royalty stuff. And he's a thing slowly been coming back. Right. He was in a home alone commercial. At the beginning of the show.

I was thinking he would actually be really good on that. He'd be a fun podcast to do. He's really, he's really insightful in the John Candy documentary. Because he he had formed that relationship with John Candy on Uncle Buck.

And like he explains how John Candy basically made him comfortable on camera.

And it was cool to see him like reflective in that way. Yeah. So we haven't we hadn't seen him much, but now it feels like he's almost like ready to make another movie or something. Also dated me like, Yeah.

Yeah. And she's kind of now. But she's in that Knotson show. Yeah. Running point out.

And she's a ball noor. She does. Yeah. He likes her fan. Yeah.

“I think Colkan is incredibly likable now.”

Yeah. Every time I've seen him, I'm almost like. Hey, man. He thought I figured this shit out. Yeah.

So it's really good to go on. It's true Barry Morrison thing where you're just like way to go. Yeah. Definitely probably saw some dark moments over the years. It's still rooting for him to do the home alone.

Sequel where he's the dead. That's like the all time no brainer Netflix movie.

I just call it in, give him the 15 million.

It feels like it was. Yeah. You want to watch it? You want to happy go more, too. I against my will.

You watched it, though. Yeah. Okay. Is that the goal? Hold my phone.

Hold my phone. Hold my phone. Why would you really like Netflix have the home alone IP? That's good. I think you're gonna share it.

There's nothing I like more than teasing Craig about happy go more to. No one was more angry about that than he was. He guess what? He watched the whole thing. He consumed it.

I love that. You know what? He was Netflix. 95 minutes. Yeah.

You're eyeballless to us, buddy. Wendy Cruisin is the mom. Yeah. She's known from this from three Santa Claus movies. All of which have missed.

I got to say I missed all the Santa Claus movies. Yeah. The Tim Allen Santa Claus? Never saw my girl. I love those movies.

Yeah. She's the mom in the Santa Claus. Yeah. She's. She's an Air Force one.

Yeah. And most importantly, in to Jillian on her 37th birthday. Oh yeah. One of the great bad movies of the 1990s. For years was married to one of my favorite actors, Michael Murphy.

Oh, okay. Yeah. What that? Yeah. We'll get into.

There are other, there are other actresses that were for this part.

I think she's really good for her in this movie. But I also think this would have been a great part for an awesome actress. She played. You just put Mary Streep in this movie. The person who was originally cast in this role, you're like this would have been.

That would have been. Yeah. There's a couple of like from that age group where like, oh, that would have been. She's really rocking a period of appropriate haircut. Yeah.

That like hyper short cut where it was like a lot of women had that cut at that time. But now that's not something you ever see. I dated a girl that haircut. Really? Yeah.

And it's just went away. You want to talk about the writer? Yeah. What's your relationship? Love is novels, a tone mint, and during love, an Amsterdam.

This comes relatively early on in his novel. It was obviously like brought out to come out to the coast. We'll get together. Have a few laughs. It's right.

It's like after a comfort of strangers.

“I think it's child time, comfort of strangers.”

He banged this out. I think the bones of it are probably his. But like I think a lot of the. I don't know. Maybe the lack of like psychological and character depth is probably brought on.

Well, he despises the movie. Yeah. It's one of those were in the Wikipedia page for this movie. You wonder if he went in there and added a couple of things. Yeah.

I don't know if he's doing a lot of work with the media editing. For his assistant did or something. You read it and it's like very like. Just leave me cute and head this great idea. Yeah.

First sentence is on end.

But I don't know what the high concept version of this movie is. And frankly, I'm not sure there should have been a high concept. Well, you know, there's a couple of his books that really explore the idea of a moment in your life that changes everything. Often in youth. Yes.

Uh, and so I can see some faint outlines of McEwen in this of like this idea of like in a time of one kid's trauma from losing his mother. He goes and spends a weird winter with family and meets this other kid who's like seemingly possessed by the devil, but the mother is possessed by an angel. Like I don't know. I mean, like there's stuff in there. But that I think they stripped that down and made it more about Mr. Highway.

It's like the Charles fifth game for Sean.

“Hey, hey, look, when we're recording this, we don't know what's going to happen.”

We really don't. Yeah, sure. Like let's just not even. Can we just say that was a bad moment? It was a very bad moment.

In fact, I spoke about it to my five-year-old last night. Did you? I did. We were talking about it. Was he receptive?

She was kind of barely understanding what I was talking about. But I was trying to guide her through the experience. I was the Red Sexankey's playoff game in '78. That was my version of a human being cute and novel. Just the words.

I mean, I was about the age of the boys in this movie when that Charles Smith game happened. Oh, yeah. It would have been down a dark path. Joseph Ruben, DreamScape, 1994.

The stepfather, 1997. It's a good movie. Solid. With our guide, Terio Quinn from Lost. That's right.

A bunch of things. True believer. I like true believer.

I've never seen anything like that.

Is that James Spader? Sleeping with the enemy in a mortal classic. The good son movie. Money train. Money train is not bad.

Bangor. Yeah. Yeah. And then return a paradise. That's where the will start going off.

So he had nice little run there. I saw his first movie that he made a couple of weeks ago randomly. Before you even asked me to do this, I just popped it in. It's called Joyride. The cast is Robert Carradine.

Desi R. Nes Jr. And Melanie Griffith. Very Melanie Griffith. Yeah. About three kids who go up to Canada.

Oh, is it just skip the draft? Go on the run. Yeah. It is a very strange but kind of entertaining movie. And it's like a real like kind of little grind housey little exploitation movie.

But you can see even in that movie the bones of like what he's interested in. He's a from hell. I'll start director. Yeah. Really good at wide shots of awesome locations that seem seemingly peaceful and serene.

But guess what? They're not. Yes. He and Hansen were the two masters of it. Yeah.

I like him. Like his style. They made this movie in Maine for most of it. Built all this.

“I think they, I don't know if they, I think they might have built the house.”

Hmm. And then filmed it a whole bunch of other places, too, where the cliff scene was not in Maine. But the house was manchester by the scene Massachusetts. Okay. I was going to talk about this.

But you can drive up to right now. It's on Redfin. You can go find it. You can go look at it. I know you've been to Maine.

You like to vacation in Maine. I love Maine. You're from New England.

I know I never never really crossed the line with Maine.

My wife, my wife really loved it. Did you guys go to Portland for some reason? We did, we did Portland. We did Manchester a couple of times. But the, we just never never really got over the home.

And I really liked it. I only went in the summers.

I've never been in a cold winter there.

“But you know, it's such a beautiful part of the country.”

It's also a very complicated part of the country. And almost all the movies that are made there. This is in part because of Stephen King, but not just Stephen King. Are all really kind of sinister. Yeah.

There's something about that part of the the coast. It's. I'm saving. It's unforgiving. It's kind of like the Oregon coast as well.

It's like right. You can't really swim here. You know, you. Yeah. It's beautiful, but you can't actually experience it.

Do you rock faces? Yeah. There's like weird bugs that will come out and like july all the sudden. Like the worst crazy. He had mixed skitos come out for like three weeks.

Yeah. Maine in the summer is like heaven on earth. And then the one really really nice part of Maine is kind of bookport, which the bushes have kind of claimed. Right.

Yeah. I have like giant compound there. But you stay there when you go. Right. Oh, you're Portland.

No, but you stay there. I stay on the compound. I gotta say, I've known CR for 15 years. This is ironically the 15 year anniversary this month of our relationship. Great land.

Yeah. And then we're launched in the ringer. Yeah. Portland Maine is the most CR place in America. Yeah.

If he said tomorrow, I'm out. Phoebe and I are moving in Portland, Maine. I bet I totally get it. I would love to. If we could just knock out a few more rewatchables,

I could summary Maine. You know what I mean? Because if we got ahead of it enough, I could get a summer place.

“Portland is like what do you want to play in Japan?”

Like you would just leave behind. I like that. Would you log in on zoom? I mean, Ben Shapiro break down backwards. As you wait in, I'm back.

I haven't seen that before. You know he does like movie takes, right? Yeah. So I've seen, yeah. He had a lot of fun.

Think about backwards is. If we brought him on the rewatchables, what would happen? He'd have a great time. Yeah.

I think, honestly, that would probably be a big goal for him. Is to just come in and be. Shapiro? Yeah. The other BS.

[LAUGHTER] Yeah. Oh, my God. We're living in the language. Fortunately, that would probably outperform the Spielberg.

[LAUGHTER] This movie was 86 minutes long. It's so beautiful. Hey Ben Shapiro, if you ever had a criteria, yeah.

[LAUGHTER] It was my perfect laugh. [LAUGHTER]

86 minutes, 20 million dollar budget,

made 66 million. And so it did make money.

“Roger, but first time ever, I think in 440 movies,”

a half star. I don't remember him going 0.5 stars. Did you happen to see the TV version of this? Sure, good. How was it?

Gene, like he was-- They were both very angry. [LAUGHTER] Like, honestly, really, really pissed off. Yeah.

And Gene, I think-- I think like, Tipper Gore, late '80s level, just like, infuriated by the concept. I agree. I think Ebert is like, his point of view is clouded by help.

Set the movie is made him. Cisco's point of view is really sharp, where he's like, here is what is-- He basically does picking nets for two minutes. And does say some things that make you think the movie is even worse.

Yeah. And it actually is, where he's just like, let's think about the Mr. Highway situation. So those kids when they drop the Mr. Highway are in full view. Also, there's clearly a news report and a huge investigation

into this. And then there's no follow-up in the story. What happened? And it's also like, Mr. Highway, pretty distinctive way of doing that. Yes.

Right. Yeah. So it's like, the movie, because of the way that the script has clearly been torn apart, like, it doesn't really hold up to the level of, you know,

investigation that we're going to be doing here. That's part of the fun. But that's part of what makes it fun, too. God, I felt the complete opposite. When I saw it in the theater, I was like, this is great.

You were just like, and we throw it a perfect game. It's just like watching Greg Matt. It's probably like a 230 start. 10 minutes of previous, and I was out by 40 minutes. I was like, this is great.

This is pleasant. Let's do it this way. This movie could not have survived being 15 minutes longer. Like, yeah. Yeah.

There's, there is literally no-- I have some ideas for that.

But part of what is so good about it is it never blinks.

It's just like, yeah, he's this evil. Yeah, they don't. Yeah. He's into it. It's the moment he takes a little mark out for a time out

on the town. Here's what he burrowed. Who in the world would want to see this movie? Watching the good son, I asked myself that question. Hoping that perhaps the next scene would contain the answer.

Although it never did. The movie is a creepy, unpleasant experience. Made all the worse because it stars children too young to understand the horrible things we see them doing. This is a very evil little boy.

The movie could have been called Henry Portrait of a future serial killer. By the way. By the way. By the way, I would sign up for that right now. That's just a great evil.

Somebody actually just may Henry the portrait of a future serial killer. Have you seen that movie? Probably not. I've told that story. I saw that one in the BU theater for a self-degame.

It was me and seven other guys by themselves. Henry Portrait of a serial killer. Six of them went on to be serial killers.

All of a size of each other out there.

The other way through the movie. I was keeping that kind of over there. I see if that thing goes out inside. It's so neat to fart it. We've been told to see each other.

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Henry's kind of feeling him out a little bit. Holding him in the treehouse. Mark decides to climb up in the hard way. Hey, if I let you go, do you think you would fly?

“At that point, Mark maybe should have been like, huh?”

Yeah, but there's, yeah, I reminded me of like being a kid and be like, you know, again, unsupervised play, being up on like my friend's roof and be like, "Did you could jump to the other roof?" Right. I bet you could.

Yeah.

It kind of, it slow walks you for the first like half a scene.

But then by the time, like, they're smoking a cigarette and firing the arrow. That's it. You're like, okay. Well, Henry has a pack of smoke. So he would have won over CR immediately.

He already gets the Sean Pen award. Yeah. Um, philosophize about death a little bit. What do you think happens? It seems like a decent hang.

I think the, the worm turns during the scene when they're being chased by the Rotweiler. Yes. Which is the next we watch. We'll see.

Nice little wide shot. And then Henry slams the door. And then just goes, I like the Rotweiler. Yeah. It's like, all right.

It starts barking at it. All right.

“Let's keep my, not be playing with a full deck.”

Next in a half is Henry kills a dog and they dump it into a well. With the little nail gun thing. Yeah. So that well decorative, you think? No functioning water like I hope not.

Top five wells in a movie, creepy wells, silent rage. I mean, the red sun. Yeah. Yeah. The rain.

The rain. The rain scared you off. You wouldn't even do the rain. I don't like the rain. It makes me uncomfortable.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The original and the original. I saw once that I'm just like, that's one of those.

I get unsettled. I don't like being unsettled with the harm of it. I completely disagree. I think that's what I live for. Yeah.

Like I get like really unsettled. Like I'll wake up. The rain theaters. We were like, oh, God. This fucking, yeah.

Amber Campbell is so good. Hey, Mark, where's your sense of humor? Says that at one point. Yep. So that well that dog's going to start smelling about.

I'm going to say a weekend. How deep down though? I mean, you want to start talking about this?

“Like, how is Henry going back into the house smelling of Marlboro's?”

Good note. Isn't mom just like, and that's a great one because you could just be like, yeah, Mark, wanted to smoke a cigarette. Well, how old were you when you had your first cigarette? First, 15, 15.

That's late. But I didn't start smoking until 21. What about you? 24. What?

What? Yeah. Wow.

I never in a million years would have thought I would have had a cigarette.

Yeah, it was always like, if you can get through high school, you'll be fine. And it was like 25 opposite. It's like, when cigarettes really hit you is when you get out of your parents' mouth, they did, but not with me. They did, like, they stopped when I was born.

You make it sound like you guys all sat in the smoking part of it together. How's 23 and at 24? No, I don't think about it. 23. I blame Jim Grady.

I think about this the other day. My dad used to be like multi-packs a day. And then when I came along and into, like, my earliest memories are just my dad getting in fights at restaurants about the smoking non-smoking sections, and whether they were too close.

And it is kind of crazy that we were just like, there's this invisible line where you can smoke and not smoke. Oh, airplanes. Yeah, that is. As if cigarettes smoked didn't roll across.

I am track was great too. The smoking non-smoking cars, but you had to walk through the smoking car to go to the cafe. Yeah. You just can't, like, instant lung cancer, right away. You only feel that now in Vegas.

Let's see, only time you feel that again.

With Mr. Highway. Yeah. Once you realize you can do everything, you're free. He's not wrong. Yeah.

It's cooking. Henry's throwing some advice around this scene's awesome.

“I think this is probably my most rewatchable.”

This is deranged, tormented, fucking crazy behavior. It's a, it's a really well shot accident. Great truck flip. Yeah. I feel like they almost like had to do the news report later to be like,

"Don't worry, he didn't just kill 13 people." A miracle. Is this a better movie if he did kill like two people? And they're looking for the people who did this. I think they need to parcel out his chaos a little bit.

Yeah. If he's the cause of a mass murder event. Yeah. I think they have this correct to agree with you. I have Elijah Wood talking to the therapist on the bench about what makes people evil.

She says, "I don't believe in evil." And he's like, "You should." Good Elijah Wood. The skating scenes awesome. Yeah.

Yeah. Connie on the ice. She's underneath there for a minute. Yeah. I'm surprised that we don't know if she's going to come.

I like the Camden Mean EMTs are able to revive her. Do you know what she's going to come at? I think it's shot at her under the water. I'm like this. She is a special instructor.

“I think she's under there a little too long.”

Yeah. Yeah. The brains got scrambled. I think she's under there a little too long. Yeah.

Yeah. The brains got scrambled. It was fun. Really cold. Hey, Mark, don't fuck with me.

That's the number one. She's my mother now. And then, hey, Mark, don't fuck with me. This is the one thing I want to say. Well, I'll see if I'm going to say something.

Don't sleep on how incredible it was to hear McColle Colkan say,

"Hey, Mark, don't fuck with me." Yeah. It was like, "Oh." The mom finds the duck and Henry Shed. Yeah.

Among other, we were disturbing her. Henry, you knew I was looking for this. What do you have the duck for, mom? Yeah. I find it hard to believe she didn't go into the shed a little more often here.

Especially after Richard's mysterious death. Kind of a lot of questions about the family. We could have this behind the crossbow. That's just out in the shed. Yeah.

But like, that is also like one of the medanator. I would have wanted to provide the fact that it was homemade. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.

How did it as dad made it or something, he hunts with it? It's just there. There's a whole thing surrounding this movie, which is that the plot of the movie is that Mark's mother dies, his father has to go into business trip. Oh.

Yeah. And so he gets dropped off all the way across the country from Arizona to Maine to stay with his family. Couldn't have been just starting out in a plan for some reason. No.

So he stays with them. Now, this family that he's staying with, staying with, has, is recovering is grieving the death of their very young son. Yeah.

Now, naturally, first of all, this is not the right family to send this child to.

There's got to be somebody else who can do this. Yeah. But they're clearly still having a lot of emotional problems to the point where Henry is doing crazy shit right in front of their face. And they're also fucked up.

But there's still a hand acknowledged. It's Friday night. Let's go out to dinner. They're performing normal scenes. We've had this plan for weeks.

But there's babysitter. Like, there's, I've seen people say like, it's very obvious that this marriage is on the rocks. Yeah. But the movie is kind of like lightly coasting over.

But you can explain a lot of the nitpicking stuff by just being like, these people are not locked in on what's going on around. Yeah. Because of what's been going on in the background of their lives. Did you kill Richard?

What if I did? Yeah. And then the big ending. Mom, I need your other hand. Got to throw one more in there, which is Mark pulling a shiv on Henry.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's going to be a gusher. He's like, yeah, I don't see all that with it. He's like basically telling him to do it.

Yeah. I like when the dad's like, Mark, what are you doing? Um, I'd be like, you're fucking outta here, man. That's, here's your suitcase. That seems your case.

When he's locked in the room and then the camera, they do the like overhead tracking shot. Following Elijah Wood, locked in the office. Yeah. What is fucking scorsesey move all of a sudden for five minutes?

It is crazy. It's really well. Lookin' was off the set that day. There's like, now I can do it. Hitchcock's here.

We talked about how great the ending is. Ebert wrote everything leads up to a cliffhanging climax that somehow manages to be unconvincing contrived. Merritricious and manipulative all at once. I don't know when I've disliked the ending of a movie more.

Like, it's all strong. Yeah. I have to say, fuck you, Raj, settle down. It's the second one of these from Hell movies that we've done.

“I can't remember how single-white female ones you have to tell me.”

Just like instantaneously after the like,

basically like the most important thing happens.

There's like one beat of a quota and your house. Oh, the same way for him as the opposite. He went hand that rocks the cradle. As I'm saying. Yeah.

So he's just like, goes a little bit different. He's like a brighter credit.

Single-white female goes on for an extra 10-15 minutes unfortunately.

“So what do you have for us to be watchable?”

I like Connie on the ice. I love the set piece of it. It's so malevolent. It's so knowing of like this would be the most, and he's also drowning another sibling.

So yeah. I'll just add one more which is Henry showing up at Mark's therapist. No, yeah.

Which is a incredible gaslighting moment.

My favorite scene is probably Mr. Highway. Yeah. Most 1993 thing about this movie is here. Mark playing Game Boy instead of enjoying this movie. Yeah.

I had a few missed a phone call. You couldn't talk to your dad. It was in Tokyo for several days. Yeah. Yeah.

Like he just he's just not. I wrote a key landline scene. Yeah. There's no email no text. And if you were out of the house when he called,

that's it. You can talk to him. The dad's old apple computer is pretty great. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

He's got the old school big box. Like just a giant contraption. But I had the car accident. None of the cars having cameras on them. They're in these two psychos.

Sure. And they're not being standing on my way cameras. Yes, right. Just no, nothing knows. Just imagine what we could have gotten away with in the early 90s.

The cops probably showed up. And they were like someone threw a doll on the highway. Yeah.

I guess we just never know.

Like cold case. [laughter] The Floyd Gundally butter in my ass. And Lali pops up my mouth award for something. I just enjoy.

I have. We haven't talked about it yet. McCallick Hawkins, Nepos Sister. Yeah. I'm sure she's a nice person in real life and probably having a great adult life.

And maybe a great mom. One of the worst kid actress performances of all time. Just an absolute abomination. Can only say her lines and like this monotone voice just has a blank face. Doesn't seem scared.

I don't know what she's going for.

“Do you think that's because she's in a movie with like the Dylan Harper and Steph Castle of Child Act?”

I think that's part of it. The other part is Kikalkan's like, and she's going to be in the movie too. It's the sister. Fire whoever else you had. She did not pursue an acting career.

Um, so I think it was her last movie. This was her only speaking part ever. Yeah. She was in this and home alone, right? Yeah.

Yeah. But I don't know how she's speaking. Yeah. I really enjoy when somebody has enough power that they can just shoehorn like their sister. And to like, not a small part.

It's like the fifth biggest part of the movie. She's multiple key scenes. Sure. And I don't know. Just steps on everybody.

What do you have for this? I love in a movie when everyone knows something is wrong and especially wrong with a kid. And they just will not admit it. And you know, there's a great scene between Ellen Burson and is it DJ Cobb in the exercise. Where they're sitting at the doors of George C. Scott.

I can't remember who's DJ Cobb sitting at the dinner table. And that's the moment where it's just like, This is fucked up.

“There's something like evil happening here.”

Yeah.

You know, and the movie is like finally letting you accept that Pazuzu is real.

Yeah. And this movie takes a really long ass time to get to that moment. So the whole time you're sitting there and you're just like, "How does Wendy Cruisin?" Not see that her son is a murderous sociopath for 90 minutes.

And finally gets to that point, but that's like, that's movie bullshit. It's like great movie bullshit. When no one will come out and just be like, "There's something wrong with this kid." And that's one of the from-house staples when they're just ignoring the signs for scene after scene after scene. And then finally it been in it.

I'd probably go America's sweet heartbreak and bad. So having Kevin McAllister say, "Don't fuck with me." It's pretty amazing. One thing on Quinn Kalkin in that near times piece of studio executive was talking about how she got shoe-worned into it. It was like everything else with the father.

It starts out as a request. And then as it turns out, it's a demand. That's a problem with the guy. It's like ace Bailey. Yeah.

[laughter] [laughter] Oh, this is fun. The Amanda Dobbins award for Best Piece of Real Estate. Along with the dentithes Benny Hanno award for scene-stilling location in the house.

That's got to be the house rock. How's this great? Can I also throw out David Morse's desert desert? Yeah, where the fuck are we? Yeah, he's living where you two did the Red Rocks?

Like, come on. Yeah, it's outside of Sunday. It's a Colorado. [laughter] We're gonna spot this place because you two are playing.

Oh. Also, they drive cross-country from clearly Arizona, Colorado, Utah somewhere. Yeah. In that car that has no top, that old school was like a four Bronco or something. Yeah.

Yeah. He puts the plastic covering on the jeep. Yeah. When they get to be in the winter, yeah. Pretty confusing.

But great house, great location. I still have this sleeping with the enemy house slightly above it though.

Like at the end of the Antucca, or with his very river, though, was.

Would say it's the best. What do you got, Sean? Well, one of the reasons why I think Kate Colkan was so perceptive is, McColkan does have a kind of eerie quality as a young boy. He had a percotiousness and a kind of like living doll quality that you could say is like,

seems kind of evil. I think even in home alone. Yeah. Because if you could read Kevin as being especially in the leveling. Yes.

And he could play very sympathetic and very sweet. He's so sweet as Thomas Jay and my girl. And when he dies, it's so devastating because he's so sweet. But he could play like, you know, in the black or white video, the Michael Jackson video, like a Rambunkious kid, you know, rocking out in his bedroom.

And the movie is like his father obviously identified something about him. The made him very well suited to this part.

“So even though it may not have been the best thing for him personally.”

His dad was right. Like it aged well to put him in this. So is your is your hottest take it to be Kit Colkan? Should he have been running Disney? No.

I did not even say that. Why didn't he get Pixar? I had a incredible evil little kid performance by Colkan. I think his age. So piggyback and on chance thing.

We talked about the no special effects in the overhead shots and some of the shooting. But my favorite is this is a plot device for movies like this. When there's been sadly a child that has died or something. And they don't touch the bedroom. And then there's they'll throw in the early scene where the new character is like,

What's in here and it's all pristine and then later we find out like it becomes this plot device. It always works. It's a home run 10 out of 10 times. Yeah.

It always like it's like a scab that's sitting there for the movie.

And then you know it's going to get picked off. Yeah. It gets picked off in this movie. Uh, aged the best I had causing a ruckus and a semi abandoned building with your little friends.

Uh, just break and shit. Yeah.

“Like that whole scene where they're in the that empty warehouse or that.”

Yeah. I can't explain and just throwing rocks through the windows. That was a big, you know, being six years old and being like we're not supposed to be here. No repercussions. Yeah.

Uh, and then kind of sort of like when Colkan does taps for the dog. This is a great fucked up little character beat. I like what he misses the cat too. And Elijah would excited that he missed the cat and Colkan's like. I got a tinker with that.

And that was my eyes. It was like, hi, yeah, say it's not right. Craig, you love this movie. Okay. We're willing to do existence.

Um, yeah. I used to fuck guys like you in prison or word for crazy. It's quote is clearly don't fuck with me. Yeah, I call it cool. Could say in that.

Would you have for great check order. I'll see our Henry looking down the rope at Mark. Or did you have like the holding the two kids? I have a couple. That's a fun moment.

I had Henry approaching Connie in the hospital bed. And he's lit like Michael Corleone and Godfather Park. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like the demon has taken over.

There's a ton of stuff in the movie where the it's just like, It's incredibly well made for such a piece of trash. Yeah. Chess Rockwell Brocklanders. I didn't really feel like there was a good character.

No, no, no. It's disappointed. Pregeneric. The Bikkun a burgerware for best use of food and drink has the fridge freak out. Yeah.

I mean, did he poison the food? Who knows? I think I didn't say for age the best. Elijah Woods character and his performance. It allows for like the 6% belief that he's also crazy.

That he's also grieving his mother. Yeah. That's right. And that he's losing it a little bit, you know.

Well, that's always one of the great devices with these movies is that.

It feels like the person that we know is the good guy. The perception is that they might actually be the bad person and when they can. Yes. Play with that that always works. One of the best.

That's one of the best things about Memento. Memento is a movie that like really messes with that point of view. Yeah. In terms of like in terms of like in terms of gas lighting or gas lit. And it kind of gets you right up to the edge of that in this movie, but you still.

You've seen Henry do too many evil things to really ever get over the line. Titanic's like that too. Yeah. Sure. Well, as we know, Rose was evil.

People think Billy Zane was the bad person that moving. It's cool. He's actually really good guy. Yeah. What do you have for a flexier?

Uh, for my flex. Well, I mentioned Sean Penn. I brought my own pack for uh, for a, for a Vulcan smoking at the well.

“But I had the, do you feel like that had seemed like he might have blown a dart before that?”

I think so, and especially when they're like, they give you cancer. He's like, who cares? You're going to die anyway. Yeah. Pretty good.

The Rick Chachetti guard me to ward for most memorable death by security guard or other bystander who movie treats as inconsequential, but probably had a spouse and a kids who love them. But then, motorists, they go to great pains to say that nobody died in that car accident.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Their, their trauma. I don't know.

I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That guy's definitely going on the car of practice.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is girlfriend award for Boocink of the film. So we've mentioned this earlier, but all the unsafe things in this extended neighborhood, including a terrifying treehouse that doesn't have an actual ladder.

Where, who is that guy who did the Netflix climb? At one point, at one point, you're going backwards to climb up the top of it. Like, it's fucking crazy. I don't know where the mom was on that.

“Like, hey, can we, can we get up on that treehouse?”

Do you have a treehouse growing up? No, did you? No. But we had a treehouse-esque things. You know, like, like, roof decks that weren't really connected to roofs.

Yeah. You know, roof episode for you. Yeah. Yeah. All timer.

There's the terrifying deep well that you could have just fallen to your desk at any point. The cliff's edge. There's no, there's no, like, cover on the well, anything. The real road tracks you mentioned, the highway that you could just fall off the bridge. The, just this walking bridge that has a random killer pitbull that doesn't have a leash.

Then could just fall anybody and then all the cliffs. Like, at one point, the kids are just lying on the cliffs peeking over. Like, this 100 foot fall to their death. So they dropped little mark off, who's just lost his, uh, his mom. And at no point to, like, hey, just so mark knows, like, you know, we're really out here in the middle of nowhere.

Like, there's some shit, like you could really get in trouble here. Now, just put them out there. It's really a miracle we were alive. It's not, it's not a very strong advertisement for Maine. It is like this entire state is a death trap.

It's how it feels. There's that, like, a safe part in the movie, even, like, the shed has a full foot. It felt like it was, like, going to the park, but don't go down that path because they're supposed to be, like, a creepy guy down there.

Yeah. But it would still be like, but feel free to go into the park otherwise. It's very, another, like, very smart thing about the movie is moving from Arizona to Maine, where Arizona is just the kind of, like, wide open nothingness of the desert. It's like, it's actually not dangerous to be in a place like that.

You're, you're always in full view.

And in Maine, it's like no matter where you go, you're about to fall on a cliff. Yeah. Would you have for a week length? The adults. I mean, both in terms of their behavior, but also in terms of, like,

I feel like we were one really cool actor short of that in that deck.

“You know, could have been a good, I think Houston's good,”

but it would have been good if we had had the original, original actor cast for it. It feels like that's where they saved money and the, that was their inefficiencies. It was like, I'll take some of that. I'll take that steam version money. Yeah.

They're like, maybe we can cut, cut money with the parents and we'll just give more to Colkan. Yeah, I Daniel, he's Kelly, the dad is, is like, if that was just James Remar is in this about her movie. He's a TV actor. Like, and I think he was in Kujo as the other movie.

Yeah. He's a big stage actor. I was breathing about him. I don't want to just disparage him. It's just like, he's just not really up to the moment.

No, I can't not see James Remar in this movie though. Well, why wasn't David Morris the dad? Did they just have to put your two weeks? I don't know. It's just pretty David Morris being David Morris.

But he was on say elsewhere. Was he? Yeah. Yeah, he had a run. And inside moves that CRF used to see.

Did this movie need a better title? I'm bringing that category back to her article. I had to use this choice. Oh. Well, like, it's all back.

I'm going to give it away. The climax of the movie. I mean, ebert nails it, right? With Henry Portrait of a Futre serial killer. I did.

Every mother's son. There's like, uh, something about who is really. Who is the true mom to mark and who's the true mom to Henry in this movie? You know, I like that. Good.

I could say that in the Netflix thumbnail. Yep. I have the winner. Bad brother. Very good.

Oh, yeah. Very good. It's the better title. Well, the Netflix title, you know what it would be. It would be.

Whoops. I killed my brother just kidding. No, I killed my new brother. It's me Henry the guy who killed my daughter. I'm not really sure.

I don't really understand why it's called the good son. Well, because who's the good son, right? I think it's riffing on Keenan Abel. The biblical allegory. Bad brother does a better job.

I think. Shout out to bad brother. What's age is the worst.

“Um, as you know, one of my passions in life is.”

Random soccer scenes being thrown into movies. Yeah. So we have Elijah with in the beginning.

Um, in classic Hollywood or Elijah Woods never really played soccer before.

A lot of closeups. We see there's some sort of, he's old enough. He's 10 like a 10 year old soccer game. It's going to be a fairly high level. It's just a lot of kids clustered fairly high level.

Well, it's going to be more spread out. Yeah. This is a 50's more like five year old soccer. Yeah. And there.

Yes. You know, we know. It looks like an A Y. So under five like first time everyone's played. And he somehow gets a goal and traffic.

People wonder why America has no chance at the world cup. Watch the good. It's fucking bullshit. What are 10 year olds are doing? Got a structure.

And they all do the same stuff.

“The, the art character is always going to score the goal.”

It's always going to be shot way too close up.

So we don't have to say anybody running or any sort of set up of a goal or anything. And they're just trying to get through it. And it's a, it's a passion of mine. C R. Did you do any tellelstration on this sequence?

There's nothing to tellelstrate. It's just 22 kids just running around circles. There's no 10 year old soccer game that would have that kind of spacing. I'm sorry. And this hits like a pickup game at recess.

This is pre pep Gordiola and our understanding of positional awareness. But I get what you're saying though. Yeah. Thanks. The music's pretty bad.

It's Elmer Bernstein. This is the second. It's just corny. Like Elmer movie. We've done because he did.

I don't like house. It's the same problem with animal house where it's like. Did Elmer Bernstein watch this movie? No. He's like, hey, I created some tracks.

Just watch your mouth. No, I'm just saying. Second of all. This is just crazy. And you also just did Ghostbusters, which is one of the great movie scores of all time.

That's interesting. That's interesting. That's interesting.

Not everyone can hit a home right now.

That's a lot more house. Guys, he did the score for the 10 commandments. The sweet smell of success. HUD to kill a mockingbird. The greatest gap.

My left foot. I'm not saying. I'm not saying. He's not great. Do you think listen.

You're like male and everyone's in a while. I thought it was good. I liked it. Are you going to go 52 for 52 in your newsletter? Yeah.

When you try to get on the camera. Yeah. I don't know. 50 to 50. The credit titles weren't great.

The music and the credit titles feel very early. It's like baby boom music. Yeah. I just fucking asshole. I don't know what the hell.

I think Elmer just gave them. He's like, that's a good son with McColle Kolken. This movie is going to suck here. I'll send you some. You know what?

They're doing good care. Okay. So they don't do the credits. They have marks. Mark's mom dies.

Fewer than all. They hit the road. AC DC. They're going to be in front of me. [laughs]

[laughs] Yeah. Billy Squires the stroke. Yeah. That's right.

[laughs] Or go some 93 hip hop. Yeah. I'll send their play and drain a snoop. They're going to be good.

Yeah. You're moving from the west coast to the east coast. No, yeah. No, no. I need a ton of.

I have one more. What's H. The worst. The whole. If you close this deal in Tokyo, you and Mark are set. Yeah.

What's going on here? Well, this definitely just feels like sex tourism to me. I have no idea what's going on. But like the idea. This is like almost like the extension of like the Gungho era.

Yeah. Like people's relationship to Japan and the 80s and 90s. Being like, you just. I can't break this date. Yeah.

They won't understand. I feel like they're going to take over my. The economy of America. Yeah. So I imagine he is a small business owner.

His own boss. And like there's nobody. He can voice this off on to. But what is Japan's like. We hear that your wife just died.

But the deal evaporates tomorrow. I should come out. I just.

“And if you're going to Japan, you should be a little bit more conversant in Nintendo's products.”

He's like, oh, you're done bombing the universe over there. Big guy. It's like, how about this idea? Between the fucking kid with you. It's as it's as winter break or whatever it was.

Spring him to Tokyo. What is the Gungho era? Just the film Gungho. Gungho where Japanese car company takes over an American car factory. And it was just like with there was a movie or two made about like the relationship between

Michael Keaton movie. The teachers. Yeah. Good movie. I think probably has that there's probably some pieces that have that age great.

I haven't seen it a while. But my guy Michael Keaton says. Sorry, that I appreciate it. I did. I watched it during the pandemic.

Yeah. Yeah. We did a Michael Keaton Hall fame. It wasn't my favorite thing that we watched. What else do you have for what stage was?

Uh, when Henry does it. When Henry says, uh, tell Mark that his mom is maggot food. I feel like at any age. Henry's taking a fucking right.

You're fighting here out like yeah. Mark is kicking Henry out of that tree. Yes. And Mark's just like, no, she's not. I'm like, that's pretty deep cut.

That's a bench colonial bro. Uh, we've obviously just addressed David Morris, the least involved parent of the 20th century. And the ending.

It's a very ending where like you basically get marks weird.

Like I wonder if she would make the same choice again. And there's no accountability for Davenport, how to Connie and Wallace react. You know, there's no there. I just wanted like one extra.

Yeah. I put that and see what they owe. Or I'm like, why are we up focusing on Mark now?

“Like this should this is now about Wendy Carson's character?”

Yeah. Like killed her son after losing her other son. And does like law enforcement come through and like, gosh, turns out there was a huge crime wave that this kid Henry was responsible for. We missed it.

I would have added one extra scene, one more soccer game. Okay. Another goal from Mark cuts to Wendy Cruison with Mr. Highway. And they're celebrating. Mr. Highway is like moving so far.

She throws Mr. Highway at the field.

Hans Gruber scale for villain ranking. Henry's like a nine. Yeah. I had an eight. Yeah.

Really good. Pretty mean. So in your in this rating, Hans is 10. Nobody can be higher than Hans. Okay.

That's why it's the Hans Gruber scale. I disagree with you. Who's higher than Hans? I just think Hans had his motivations.

Like Hans was, you know, first of all, a committed leftist.

And second of all was really just interested in getting his hands on barobons. There's a lot more crazy people out there. Okay.

“Where does he want to the crimson dawn out of prison?”

Like where does Lou Cipher figure into this scale? You know, like, good question. I feel like we could get a little bit more evil in Hans. This was created during a cow brand podcast. When we were talking about how bad power's booth was in sudden death.

Right. And I think we gave him like a one and a half out of ten. And at some point it became the Hans Gruber scale. I don't know if we'd put a ton of thought into whether it should be after Hans Gruber. Look, I made you open up to the--

Maybe I have a Gruber apologist. I don't know. It's hard to apply this category to a film that has like explorations of sociopathie. Yeah. Or evil, like, payment is a ten out of ten.

Pazuzu is a ten out of ten. Let's see his possessed. Yeah. But the demon itself. Right?

Like, here comes the telephone. We're all back! Yeah. A lot of talk about apex mountain for this pod, but you-- Yeah.

People obviously didn't see her editor. Ruko doing her editor. Oh, my God. He's got an artist on the show. Yeah.

Rufflow, Han, and Rubin, and Parch, and Joe, were acting worried. This goes to Quinkalkin for the underacting. Can we do underacting for this or no? Sure. Okay.

A lot of you dials it up a couple times. Yeah. When he's thrown all the food down the disposal. Yeah. Oh, true.

That's good. That's good answer to this. All right. We'll take one more break and then we got Sean's flex. All right.

Sean's flex. What do you got? So the reason I put the shining on my list is because there's a shining criteria orgasm in this movie. You just mentioned the bombing in the universe line, which is a direct line that

pulled from what Jack Torrance says to his son Danny and the shining. And the movie knows what it's doing. Yeah. It makes that reference to the shining. Oh.

“Do we have to retire the category after Spielberg melted your vertebrae?”

It's up to you. You tell me? No. I like this category. I mean, I don't know if I'll ever have a better moment in my life.

Do you think he will watch Charles, too? He said he, he's, he's not 20 years later. Oh, he did. Okay. We went to bad for a couple of seconds.

I stuck it under my breath a second time.

Yeah. I really wanted to make it clear to him that I was okay with the movie for some reason. My big regret was that I couldn't pitch him on why it was an interesting movie. And because he was, you could see he just didn't want to hear it. But, you know, the whole thing about it being like a slash movie, but with a shark.

Yeah. That was a cool thing that happened. I wonder for him. He's like, that would be like me telling you, like, why hif it's his version of the big picture really worked for me.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That fucking way. Yeah.

Oh, shit. Hi, Fitz is going to send a pitch down. Have an idea for spin-off. Literally every other episode of The Ringer Fantasy Football Show is Craig asking to any of you seen a movie and he's like, I haven't seen that.

How do you move? I'm just seeing every movie. Hi, Fitz. Yeah. Yeah.

It's alarming how little, very popular movie in the 90s and 2000s he has seen. He didn't know no doubt was. What, like, he's such a unique person. Yeah. He's like, Gwen Stefani was a no doubt.

How do you get hired in the first place?

“I think the first 20 years of his life he just was watching football and basketball.”

Yeah. Yeah. And that was it. Oh. To see our things, Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford, how to take a word.

I'll start it soft. Okay. I think this is McColle Colkan's greatest performance. And I don't even know if it's a hottest thing. I don't know how hot that is.

I genuinely believe it. I think it should be mentioned first. I don't care how popular Kevin McAllister was. I know how big home alone was as a franchise. I think this was a much harder role.

And he's really good as an evil kid. I don't like this movie. It's one of those. We talk about this sometimes in the show. Sometimes movies just shouldn't work.

This movie literally needs two of the best kid actors. Probably the last 50 years to both be in the same movie with the director who totally gets it. But I think this movie probably had a 10% chance of working. My routes that's like the movie I watch. Mikey with Brian Bonsett.

That's lit it just goes in that direction and then it comes that. You come to pure camp. Yeah. Yeah. My hotestake is related to what you're saying.

Because I feel similarly. And that it's that this movie should have been an even bigger deal. Because Elijah would and McColle Colkan should have both been coming off of Academy Awards for supporting actor. Colkan for his performance is Thomas Jay and my girl. And Elijah would for his performance.

And oh shoot, I forgot what the movie was that Elijah was in right before this war. No, no, no, no.

Oh yeah, yeah.

And McColle should have beaten Jack Palantz for city slickers and Elijah should have beaten

Gene Hackman in unforgiving. That's not actually your take. That's like you're just a hotestake. It's my hotestake. It's my hottest take.

Could you imagine Elijah was accepting an Oscar and just be like, it's just great to be nominated. These are the performers. Hackman. I've looked up to you for all eight years of my life.

You've seen radio flyer. You know what a success that is. I don't know if you don't have film. Maybe you haven't seen it. Just like.

That would have been the worst moment of Gene Hackman's life until the TikTok craze of Gene Hackman's secret tunnel started. But somehow don't think that's bothering Gene Hackman anymore. But yeah, it's somewhere in the afterlife. He's bothered.

He's like, really? 95 years. It's like a great movie. - I feel like we're like your darker light. - He's fucking weird out of TikTok people.

- Do you want me secret tunnels?

“- Do you know how hard it would be to just make a secret tunnel?”

- Yeah, didn't you see you for a zoning here as impossible? - Yeah, that's right, that's right. - That's right, that's right. - That's right, that's right. - That's right.

- That's right. - That's right. - That's right. - That's right. - How crazy would I have to be to have a series of tunnels?

- Did you have a how to take it? - I have two, one is at the end of the day. I feel like Susan chooses blood over truth. And she saves, she saves Henry over Mark. And she's just like it is what it is.

That's my son, I'm not losing another one. And we're just gonna have to figure this out. And honestly, the getaway plan is right there. You could probably blame a lot of it on Mark, distraught, disturbed.

He did Mr. Highway. He's the one who threatened Korean, you know, like you could get away with a lot of like-- - That was the single way female part where

she was trying to basically set up

the bridge of Fonda for all of me. - I think it's not even a hot take, I think it's actually the right take. - So you would save, it's not defensible to save Mark. - Yeah.

- It's just, as a parent, it's just not--

“- In Henry, did try to kill her for three minutes earlier.”

- He did. - But at least like institutionalize the kid. - Yeah, she could be like, he was, he was having like, he was disturbed. - Cause it's really only one moment in her eyes

that he broke. She hasn't seen any of the other stuff. - But she has a facility killed Richard. - Yeah. - Yes.

- But she makes a very quick conclusion, like 30 seconds after he does this one thing. - Yeah, until I didn't die. - Even as a parent, you watch your kids do things and you're just like, I wish they didn't do that just now,

but you're like, ah, you know, willing to forgive it they're much else. - Well, you think about it, still's the duck, says so what if I did when she asked if he killed Richard and then tries to push her off a cliff and does,

and she almost falls to her death. - I feel like the better pitch, the better question here, is not whether you would save me or Chris, but whether you would save Ben after revealing that he's killed someone or Chris.

If you're holding Ben Simmons or when you're holding C. - Yeah, murder or Ben Simmons or me. - I'd probably at that point remember, I thought Chris got a little chirpy after the Eagles

pass Super Bowl, the private item go. - Just kidding. - So let's take a chirpiness. - Some settled down, Jesus, I swear you went to the ocean. - Little settled down, Jesus.

- So there's the most settled down, Jesus. - I'm in the world, my friend. - The Puerto Rico Super Bowl's for you. - My other hottest take was that if Henry's parents were just a little bit more engaged,

they would have seen that this is an NHL pestin' and forcer in the making, and you could have channeled all that aggression. - Good skater. - Youth hockey? - Yeah. - That guy's on the B's by 95.

- Yeah. - You know what? - Right there, yeah. - He's in a bad line. (laughing) - I was like, Wallace, if he had an ounce of an eye as a scout, he would have seen this kid do that.

- That guy's skate speed was incredible.

- He was a great skater. - Yeah, he'd like it was Culkin. - Dude, he's skating. - And he's skating. - Link shots that guy. - This poor kid's fucking cooped up harnesses.

He's got cabin fever. - Yeah, it's got nothing to do with it. - They didn't love the throwing motion from him. - No, but he looks like he gave it out there. Like, let's fucking tap into it.

(laughing) - I agree. - Casting what ifs. - Get this kid inflated sports, he's doing it every day. - Casting what ifs, they almost made this in 1988

with Michael Cleaseck as Henry. - I don't know how that is. - And then Jesse Bradford, right? - With Mary's steam burgeon as the mom. - And Michael Lehman, directed Heather's, it's the director.

- Do you think a Michael Lehman directed version of this has like more tongue and cheek black comedy? - For sure, just based on all the movies that he's made in his career, but without a mid-sense. - I mean, I don't know if totally it would have worked.

Obviously, Kip was like, "Kip, kip, kip." - Kip, kip, kip, kip, kip. - Kip, kip, kip. (laughing) - Kip, kip, kip, kip. - Kip, kip. - Like you're out. (laughing)

- My sense of how to start in the world for nine more months. You're out. - He did. - Best act of a far ball of Hollywood dance. - Yeah, no question. - Best act of a word. I don't think Danielle who Kelly is a DACA.

- Why not? - Why not? - Super Craig's generation. - Well, who was he done?

“- Well, I think the therapist is the DACA.”

- Okay. - Okay. - I know, I've seen that lady at her. I've known, she was on a soap for a while. I think she's done a lot. - She's bounced around. - What's the person, is not a DACA?

- When the person is probably the mom from the good son, so that would make her a DACA, which I think would qualify her.

- She's the mom from Santa Claus.

- Or mom from Santa Claus. - But nobody knows. - But most people don't know what her name is. - Yeah, that's probably the best thing. - What's this?

“- Didn't this used to be the Joey pants that guy award?”

- Yeah. - I'd say I feel like we're getting away from the original text, and you can't-- - So these-- - So these-- - Or you can't.

- Sounds like someone's getting dropped off the cloud. - No, I'm just saying you can't be that guy in the movie that you're in. You can't be in windy cruising, is obviously from the good son.

It's Daniel Hugh Kelly. It was from Hard Castle on McCormick. (laughing) - Is that true? - Yeah.

(laughing) - It's just big TV. - It's like 67 episodes. - But it wasn't in 10 speed and thunder foot. That's that one.

For that one, it's 10 speed and brown shoes. - All of the TV shows, when you look up these people's credits, they're just like, to guarantee you don't make this up, whereas it's real, like-- - There was some show that was,

they did the Instagram video of the opening credits from 1977 called Blanskees Beauty. (laughing) It was a happy day, skin off, that's been off. And it was set in Vegas.

And none of us, I was on with people my age, like Jimmy and our friend Rob Mills, and we were all like to say, anyone remember the show? It was 13 episodes of it.

“I was like, how did I not know about the show?”

It was strippers and Vegas. - Oh, wow. - Like a comedy. - Scott Bae, I was in it, Paparito, isn't it? But yeah, the point is,

shows just came and went.

We never knew what was going on.

- Yeah. - It's so easy to make them up, too, right? It's just like two names. - Jiminy McCorkel, PhD, right? He's a wrap-scallion professor at a New England University.

- He's a big ace of AI. - Yeah. - Well, no. - Wait, wait, wait. - No, fake trailers from the 70s,

and the 70s, and the 90s, they are real show. - Okay. - I'll get correct. - Action, Jiminy McCorkel. - Today, I'm not just super-training cooks.

- That's what it is. That's what too many cooks. - Super train was this big NBC show in the late 70s. Fred Silverman went to NBC for maybe see, big executive.

This was his big expensive show, super train. And it was basically love boat on a train, and they would just show these wide shots of the train going fast, and then it would be like, "Starring, Vick Day Back."

And it was an all-time legendary TV Bob. - I don't know any of the names that you just mentioned. (laughing) - And they remade it 30 years later, a snowpiercer. - Right.

- Then they decided this is much better as a future as the core of shit. - Dammit, waiters was tough, the pitball. - I got more. - I chose the cinema target for John Lindley.

- Oh, wow, like it. Huge moment for him. Went on to shoot movies for like Nora Ephron. Does not really the showiest cinema target for movie history, but five or six times watching this 82 minute movie,

I was like, "Damn." - Oh, so John Lindley. - It's kind of responsible for that early '90s look, I guess. - Yeah.

- Recast and couch director, Siddy. We mentioned Mayor Steam version. Let's go for the big guns here. This is a Michelle fight for movie. Like this would have been the fucking perfect

Michelle fight for movie for the grieving widow. - This is too. - I mean, two years before dangerous minds, it's like four years after Fabo's bigger boys, realistic that she would have a 10 year old son.

I think she would have classic Michelle fight for faces of being upset, like it just like- - I kind of like- - Looking at the clip. - photo what lies beneath vibe to it.

- And even what's the thing she's in now? With rehearsal. - Where she's just like having a glass of wine looking out sadly and like she's nobody's better. - Yeah.

- A little bit of like what is this smoke show doing in rock harbor main. - You'd have to, you'd have to upgrade. - You'd have to upgrade. - You'd have to upgrade Wallace too.

“If that's the case, then you need to get-”

- That's when you get reborn. - Sam Shepard as well. (laughing) - She sounds like a great movie. (laughing)

- We get hanks. - Yeah, we'll upgrade Morse from hanks. - Hanks and fiverr. - Let's go. - Yeah, sure why not.

- We can't get, let's just do cruise at 25 as Mark. Can you imagine Kit Kulkin on the set with Morse like with Sam Shepard, Michelle fight for a ton of hanks? It's like, go back to your fucking trailer, okay. We're like, my son, have a snack.

(laughing) - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. - We might need a Kit Kulkin award. - I don't know if that's right. (laughing)

- I was all bummed because I thought my henry should have played hockey. I had that. I'm gonna go with the okay motherfucker award for the exact moment when this movie went up a notch.

When Connie is drowning, and Henry is just kind of limply holding his hand out. - Yeah. - And for a second, you're like, oh, okay. He wanted her to get in the water, but he's gonna savor,

and the hand is just out of reach. It was kind of a special thing.

- No, it's amazing 'cause it's like if you were a witness

to that, you'd be like, he tried to be showing. - He's showing, yeah. - It's a special kind of dimension. - It's like kind of like, Liz got up and went to the bathroom. I see, she's like, I can't, this is wicked.

Only thing that would have been worse is if they like Connie die in the movie. - That would have been, that would have been truly like the restrictor plate. - I was like, there's no way they're killing anyone else.

The daughter's definitely not gonna die. And then when she sinks down and goes under the ice, I was like, holy fucker, they're gonna kill Connie. - Yeah. - That would have been deeply malevolent.

Can I argue it?

“Is this month actually sick fuck bills in the bathroom?”

- Yeah, she's sick, she's sick for months. - It's like they go 90% there, but not all the way. - Yeah. - Half veteran in a research, the cigarettes they smoked was a tube filled with dried parsley and lettuce leaves.

- I don't really get that, I think that's bullshit. I think they were ripping it. - They were fucking, yeah, it's not really 90's. - It's more of a country. - They filmed the cliff scene at Palisade Head, Minnesota,

and used tugboats to make the water seem choppy in the air and man. They were dangled off the cliff, secured by a safety crane and cable, they also constructed a fake cliff to make it easier to shoot the hanging stuff,

stunt coordinator, the whole thing. After discussions with Colkan and his parents, he agreed to do a 30-foot fall on a cable on the actual cliff, but wanted one thing in return for this act of bravery, a BB gun.

This is actually the recent relationship. - That's very interesting, yeah. - Also, he got like $5 million for this movie. - Okay, get your own fucking beat. Give him the BB gun anyway, 'cause I was like,

Jesus Christ, $5 million for you. - They filmed some stuff in Beverly, Massachusetts, Manchester, by the sea, blah, blah, blah, and then you mentioned that there's a tie-in novel? - I don't know what the tie-in novel is.

- It's novelization, yeah.

- Yeah, I never know what to make of those.

- Some of them are good. - They make Henry a socio-path where it's just like, they dive into, like, he just can't feel anything, basically. - McColle Colkan and Lazio would very close friends to this day.

- Cool, it's great. - I would get pretty freaked out if I saw the two of them together. - And then you mentioned, you mentioned the UK thing. When it finally ended, was released in the UK, 1995,

is a video released two years later. They edited out everything that happens with Mr. Highway. He's basically on the bridge, and then she's seen it. - I think the UK had moved on to a waste of spite, then they're like, "Yeah, this is really matter."

- The idea of being okay to murder a dog, but not OK to drop a, you know. - Well, I think they were fairing with the copycat thing.

“- That happened, remember that movie, the program?”

- Which we've done the rewatchables. - Hits leaned down in the street. - Lay down the street became like, I was thinking about it, I said I have the TV. - Yeah.

- Apex Mountain. Colkan, it's probably home alone too. - I think it could be home alone. - Period though, right? - This period, he's on Apex Mountain for a couple years.

- I wrote his, it's his Apex for bankability,

that he could get this movie to $60 million,

just by seeming evil in the trailer they described. - Yeah. - Do you think Spielberg understood Red Apex Mountain was? - I don't think I do, so... - OK.

- I felt like he was, seemed like he understood. - I think he, it seemed like he grasped it. - I think he was in a great mood. - Yeah. - See how we do draws within next year,

'cause he claims they're doing it. I'm gonna get rid of these chairs so we can do four chairs in here. - OK. - You're gonna need to be a Rob Mahoney and Steven.

- Whatever. (laughing) - Steven, get Colkan down. (laughing) - We, the, the, the jaw thing, that'll be it.

- That might be my wish. - That might be my wish. - Yeah, that'll be done. I'll be done after that. - See, you guys don't wanna do Lincoln as the last one?

- I mean, there's any number of movies I'd like to ask him about that he's made. - The thing is he's made so many, would it? I mean, somebody set me an email. If you took out the top four movies,

a director or actor made, you just, you made the list. You wiped out the top four, would he still, would Spielberg still have one of the best careers ever? - Yes, no question. - Yeah. - So how many people,

how many people could you say that about? - There's like four. Like, if you think about how many times on this pot if you said this person, it's like this, this and this and then the wheels come off.

You know, and it's like, it's not even the wheels coming off. It might just be like that their hot streak ended. I think Merrill Street might be the only actress where you could remove her top four and she would still have one of the best

three or four careers ever. - Yeah, it works a little bit better with directors. Like, it's a real confrontation with how many peaks you have 'cause Spielberg has three distinct peaks. Like, Squarespace has three distinct peaks,

John Ford has three distinct peaks where they like, in different decades

are doing different things that are amazing.

Actors is tough 'cause like, most of them, you get these like two or three iconic roles. One that's like the breakthrough, one where the whole industry is like, you're the greatest of all time and then one late period thing.

So it's a little closer. - It could cruise you could wipe out four. - Yeah, I mean, like, I was just--

“- I think that's how you could wipe out four.”

- I think about gaming 'cause of, 'cause of Odyssey and Odyssey is like the third time he has been the biggest movie star in the world or whatever, you know, or led the biggest movie. And if you cut out Matt Damon's top five movies,

I think it would still be a good career, but it wouldn't be, wouldn't be it.

- I saw an interview with him where he said he had

and lost as much weight since high school or had him been in this weight since high school. - Courage under fire, he was like 135 pounds. - Yeah, right. - And he was a little different.

- Yeah. - He just, he that he was like his health was in danger when he did that movie. Maybe he forgot. - Maybe forgot.

- Rain and tangent. - Elijah would know. - No, that's Lord of the Rings. - Agreed.

“- Lord of the Rings is the one with the rings, right?”

- Yep. - Evil Kid movies. - Well, maybe give it to Spin. - Maybe give it to Spin. - Lord of the Rings.

- Yeah, I just did an episode about Masters of the Universe and I talked about my favorite fantasy movies of all time. And it fellowships like far and away. My favorite fantasy movie of all time. - I just feel like, I think if you like

thrones the way you do, there's no reason why you wouldn't do the least yet. - I know it's a corner of your life. - I feel like I'm not into this shit, but I feel like you would like it.

- Yeah. - So I'm four-hit blue ray. - It sure is. - Yeah, good one.

- Those three movies are incredible, honestly.

And this is not me dorking out. Like, it's their legitimately great experience. - I just watched them for the first time over Christmas and they were great. - What did Hyphids think?

- Has Hyphids seen Fellowship of the Rings? - He could tell you every line from Lord of the Rings. - Really? - Yeah. - Hyphids.

- When he cruised that Apex Mountain, probably Santa Claus, I'm guessing. - Okay. - Yeah. - Sounds right.

- That was a huge movie. - Not, it's definitely not David Morse, right? - No. - Danny Hugh Kelly, probably Kujo. - What is David Morse's Apex Mountain?

- Oh, come on, proof of life. - See our nose. - Diasturbia, one of my childhood favorites. - Oh, that's a good one. - That's how I tell you.

- Diasturbia, yeah. - Diasturbia's good. - Uh, main, no.

- She's in between two people to live.

- Yes, Apex Mountain, for main, just set a curiosity. - Probably it. - Yeah, I was thinking something in the Stephen King vortex. - Probably.

- Or Carrie, Carrie. - Right, one of those, well, I mean a Shawshank. - Oh, there you go. It's gotta be Shawshank. - It's Shawshank's main, right?

- Yeah, the person is. - I thought it was filmed in Ohio, though. - Yeah, but it's a movie, it's a movie. - Shawshank is a movie location in Maine, yeah. That's the answer.

Or the Portland Celtics win in the G League title last year. - Nice one. - We won on the other. - Yeah, I didn't know that. - In the bedroom?

Is that Todd Field, right? - Yeah. - What about Poison Ivy? - It's in Maine. - Yeah.

- I did a lot of main research for this time. - The stand by me is Oregon or Maine. I can't remember. - 'Cause it's like Maine. - That's a Shawshank.

- What about Lake Placid? - Upstate New York. - No, Maine. - Lake Placid is in Maine. - The movie Lake Placid is in Maine.

- Oh, the crocodile movie. - Yeah, well, I thought you were like miracle on it. - Oh, my, Lake Placid. Is in the bedroom are we watchable? - To Maine is.

- Deeply sad movie. - That movie's fucking awesome. - Yeah, it's a great movie. - We're just the one with Jackie Earl Haley is the kid, toucher.

- That's a little chill of children. - Those little children. - Okay. - Yeah. - Cruiser Hanks.

Cruiser Hanks. I mean, the roles are pretty slim.

“- This is a Hanks movie as the data I think.”

- It is. - And this cruise wants to play young and be Henry. - So like taps, error cruise, play, error, error. - Play, error, error. - I don't have young cruise as Henry.

- Yeah, cruise. - Five years earlier, cruise hasn't even decided to start acting yet, but just realizes. - Wouldn't have to be like 15 years earlier to really get, right?

- No, he's playing young. - Okay. - It's cruising the outside. - He's committed to it. I've been studying 10 year olds, now their body's moved.

I've been learning how to unthrow stuff, so I throw a motion back. - Video interview with him, talking about how at one point in his career, he was shooting cocktail and prepping both Rain Man and Board of the 4th of July

and was rewriting all of them. - And I was like, whoever wrote those movies is probably like one of them. - Do you guys feel ready for six straight months of cruise mania with digger?

- Like kidding, like when am I not ready for that? - But this is gonna be a whole new love. - Do you think he's going out on the road? - I think he has to, 'cause it's gonna be, he's gonna be trying to get win an Oscar.

- There's like a 10% chance he does the rewatchable. - I just like 2% after Spielberg. - I'm ready, I'm ready, I've got the seat for that. - So that would be cruise, Mahoney. (laughing)

“- Hi Lizzie, that's what I'm gonna let that four seats.”

I don't know if I could hold it together for that one. That would be a lot. - You think cruise is like Zaylov? (laughing) - It's all men from the couch to another couch.

(laughing) And here we are, the superhero. - The artist. - What movie would you want to do with cruise? - Pride proof of life.

(laughing) - You gotta get to be on that one. - All right, got it. - No movies, movies or something else.

- It's so obvious, it's the re-cruising. See the re-cruising with cruise? - Yeah. - I'm trying to think of what's in a movie that he talks about all the time that he loves.

Like, he's talked about the greatest scape, a bit, in the past, I don't think he loves that.

“- What's a movie that is essential to him?”

I mean, he's talked a bunch about these in a re-two movies that he loves so much. He's talking about a Maurice Peros now. I don't think we would be doing that on the re-washable anytime soon.

- I love to. - It says that his favorite movie is singing in the rain.

That would be incredible.

- Wow. - Wow. There's an article, you won't trick Tom Cruise into naming his four favorite films. - Right.

- Because he was talking, you know what he was? - He's a cinema diplomat. - Him and McCoy love the good-bad knee ugly. - And the ones upon the time in the West. - Look at him.

- Those westerns. - Yeah. Apparently he won't do that. Who does that letter box? - I give him a title when he's like Tom Cruise, like I can.

- No, he's like, it depends on what I'm doing. Am I just watching one scene to be inspired or am I hanging out on the Sunday afternoon? - Yeah. - Yeah.

I don't know, he sees a lot of movies. He still is like, that's his whole thing. He's like, I'm at the cinema. You're to see that the Odyssey, you know, a lot of selfies of holding like,

happily eating popcorn, loves popcorn. - Cruise. I don't know if we could do Cruise. - I feel like it's just, if you have spielbergs, like ultimately like a movie fan like us.

Cruise is like, I don't know how you would have a two-hour conversation with Cruise.

- It would be fucking incredible.

- But what you want to do is just ask him questions for two hours. You don't want to be like, what's your favorite scene from this movie? - Yeah, it would be like, we're doing the weapon too.

(laughs) He's like, they kill us up that for kids. - He's like, Chris, Chris, do it. - Yeah, he did it. - Come on, take a minute.

- I'm gonna add in here the Dennis Peck relationship test for could Dennis have broken up the main relationship. I think Dennis could easily come in. - Wallace is. - Yeah.

- For sure, two seconds. - Yeah. - I love short hair cuts. (laughing) Major wife, go.

- You're grieving. You need to let some of that grief out. - Oh my god. (laughing) - The Ed Norton reversed Uncle Ward

for did this movie need a random sports scene. - I mean, it has one. - It has the soccer, but it need a scene with Henry and it. We talked about hockey. Is there a touch football scene where he starts to get a little--

- Oh, maybe he's like a middle linebacker and he does. - Yeah, like he takes, he takes Connie over the middle just like, that's her. - It's like, who wouldn't say fucking you

in any other touch football game? (laughing) - All right, here we go. Pickin' Nets, got to have so many. Sean, you want to start us off?

“- What the hell is David Morse's character doing in this movie?”

- What in what universe? After your wife dies and a boy has lost his mother or you drop in him off somewhere and not spending time with him. - And going to Japan for two weeks?

- What in the fuck? If this, I lean and I watch this movie together last night and I was like, honey, if you die, I'm not dropping Alice off with someone. There's just no, I'd be like Bill,

I gotta take a couple of weeks off from the pods, man. I think you'll understand. Like this is crazy. - This is the same kind of thing. - This is the same kind of thing.

- We're just like, how is this? - I think the fucked up movie. There's a bit of it where it's just like, 'cause he kinda like, I need to get some me time, you know? - Could be, yeah.

- Could be. - But it's not explained in the movie. - What do you have for a biggest snippet? - So when Mark breaks away where he jumps out the window at the end to get to the cliffside,

Davenport and Wallace are just like, oh, Mark, you gotta wait for us. Then they just stop, they don't pursue, they don't like-- - I think that as well.

Isn't what is in the dad show up at any point over the next five minutes where is it? - And then she comes back from the cliff and it's just like, yeah, you know, I have to do-- - That's true.

- She's between Mark and Henry and I dropped our son. So now you're down too. That's crazy. - How did, when he cruised and explained to the cops how Henry died?

- Right. - What did she say? Isn't that like criminal negligence anyway?

“- Did she say, like, my son tried to kill me, so I killed him?”

Like, how did she explain? - Now, I think her and Mark get their stories straight for a split second. - He slipped out of my hand. I was trying to save him.

- Yeah, that's true. - The Henry and Mark were fighting. - The Henry and Mark were fighting. - They fell off, I was trying to hold them. And obviously, I wouldn't have wanted to kill my son, Henry.

- The first in last shots of the movie

are Mark standing on like a sand dune in the middle of like a national park somewhere in Arizona, makes no one else around him. - Makes no sense. - What's he doing?

- It's like the start of Dune 3. (laughing) - He's calling the sandworks. - He's like doing the dance of the thing. - What about the investigation

in the Richard's death, a little boy? - What happened there? Just he drowned in six inches of water. - I have a, I just think that there would just be, we're having a fucking emergency meeting.

Richard's dead. The daughter got thrown under a sheet of ice. We've got new kid here who's just causing all like, we need to just shut it down. We're not going to dinner.

We're not just using this old lady psychiatrist.

Everybody is on like, is grounded, we're gonna figure this out.

“- Mr. Highway is definitely some sort of investigation.”

- Yeah. - It's like, first of all, very close to their house. There's not like a ton of people that live around there. The news report will say, the driver reports seeing two kids pushing something off a thing.

- That's right. - So that's coming up. So these two guys are brothers,

but their families have never hung out.

Like the cousins have never met. - And you're all, it's like that not one family vacation. - It's just that David Morris is always off to Japan. Does he know anybody who lives in Arizona who he could drop his son off with?

Like, what is it going on? It's also the winter, wasn't he in school? - They don't address that. - Yeah. - No, they said it's Christmas break.

- Oh, that's right. - So the movie only takes place in over two weeks. - There's also no Christmas decorations in the house. - Right? - There's a tree.

- There is a tree. - It's very, this is not a holiday movie. It's even less of a holiday movie than die hard. At one point, the dad says, what a hall. 11 states in three days.

Where are you coming from? - Arizona. - I can get this. - 38 states in three days. - You can actually do the drive and it's like six states.

I think, like, his quickest route. - Is it a time machine? - No, no, I mean, like, I don't know how long it takes from to drive it, but it's just not that many, less states than you'd think.

- They have date night. Little Richard has died in six inches of bathtub water and their sons of serial killer and they're like, no babysitter, it bothered me that they were eating soup while talking about going out to dinner.

- Yeah. - I was like, what do you, you're having? - Maybe they don't trust the restaurant. It's probably not a lot of them. - Yeah.

- I had some questions about the safety situation at the skating pond. - It's just roped off, just to rope off. - Yeah. - Anybody could have--

- Yeah, that was a tour there. - I had that in, most 1993 thing about this movie too, where I was just like, yeah, you just like, go skating in an insanely dangerous place. - I mean, that is like--

- Every 80s, in early '90s, water park or action park, kind of place where you're just like, we should probably should not be here. - Yeah. - And the guys somehow don't fall in the ice

as they're trying to save Connie. - How's weird, too? - I didn't understand any part of this. - Why did they not go to the part where she fell in to fish her out?

They only go to the part where the ice is more solid and they have to axe it out though. - This is just another like, just like,

Wallace and Wendy Cruisin never have a conversation

“where they're like, hey, have you ever been in Henry's Treehouse?”

Or the shed? - The shed is the bigger one. - Yeah. - She enters the shed. She's a crossbow, keeps walking, finds a rubber duck.

That's the problem. - Yeah. - Does this say a word? - What is this military grade crossbow? - She probably thinks it's Wallace's

to like ward off wild animals or something. - You don't get any report on the dead dog? Like, something in the neighborhood is like, hey, somebody shot and killed my dog. - Oh, he doesn't know that.

- That's in the well. - That's right. - Oh, my dog. - My dog, you're missing. - This is the big one.

This made my way for really upset. So Connie almost dies, is it in the hospital? We assume still in the hospital and the end of the movie. Both parents are home. - Yeah.

- Just nobody's at the hospital? - Connie's just lying in bed, like with the fucking remote control. - She's like seven. - Is it one of the parents there at 24/7?

- One of my favorite tropes and movies is when, like, somebody is like, it's okay. You should go home and get some rest. It's like, my child who's like, my wife. - Yes.

- Nobody's leaving on the hospital. - Nobody's going home to get the house. - That almost happened to Alice.

- You never leave the hospital.

- Be like, yeah, let's go home with the kids. - We got these more reservations. They love to do this at movies though. Don't smoke. - I like when Henry leaves the hospital room

and he goes, let her know I was here. - She was right. - Just you and the hospital. - That's a great lie. - That's a great lie.

- It was just a great lie. - It was just a great lie. - She was seven P.M. has opened up. (laughing) - You know what, we're not doctors.

- What can we do for her? (laughing)

“- That's why at the beginning of the pot,”

I was like, this movie is trash. Like it is really trashy. - I love it. - But because once you start getting into this stuff, it's so poorly constructed.

However, it's very fun and entertaining. - Yeah. - That's why we love from helmets. - You gotta get the parents out of the house. I get it.

Like you can't have them always be there because Henry needs room to cook. - I also love when something like that happens to a character and they run to the hospital and the guys says maybe they said she's gonna be fine.

- Yeah. (laughing) - She's underwater for about two minutes. - Let's give it a week. I would just say she remembers her name.

- She's not going to Caltech, but she'll be fine. She'll be fine. - You're really hooked on that, like she definitely has brain death. (laughing)

- She's like, yeah. (laughing) - She's fine. - Yeah. - It's gonna be fine.

- And you notice the actual date marks, no worries. It'll be 30 minutes for that. - Actually, it should be fine. (laughing)

- Also, no witnesses for Henry just whipping her towards the dangerous people, if you hate people there. - But even if that would happen,

And let go of her, you know. And he could just be like, it was an accident, but... - Sequo-prequel prestige TV all black caster and touchable.

“I think this is a pretty good prestige TV”

Apple ad episodes that I hope they don't do.

- It is, but by the third episode,

you'd be like, somebody's gotta be like, what's going on with this kitty keeps murdering people? - Yeah. - We wouldn't have any of the picking nits 'cause they would've just been eight hours

like answering all the questions and stuff like that. - Some back stories with the marriage. - Yeah. - Why haven't Wallace and David Morris talked? - But this movie is also the length of one episode

of Prestige Television, so. - True. - You four, yes, he's a finale. It was 15 minutes longer. Is this movie better than Wayne Jacobs

for you the floor is saying, "The Robert Everett's Doctor Charles Nichols "are someone else." - Henry, man, do you all stand in on the ledge? You've drowned Richard,

you've killed the neighborhood dog, nearly did Connie on a frozen pond. The body count grows. - But what's next for you, man? - After building your nail gun

and terrorizing your immediate family, what's does you? (laughing) - Why is my saint talking to Henry? - I mean, is Henry in studio?

- Yeah, he's saying he's flying to me. - No, Henry is in the same plane. - In the same plane. - And Zane is standing at the console. - The Zane's flying to Maine for this.

- Yeah, true. - There's no question. - There's no location. - The waves lapping against the shoreline, Henry. - On location, Zane.

- Just wanna ask her who gets it. - McCalli. - McCalli. - So what an airward, what happened the next day? I wrote down, honey, bad news.

I dropped, Henry, do his death. We lost another one. I wrote Mark going back to Arizona and leaving that family destroyed in Maine is hilarious. - Yeah, and it's just like,

see guys, when you cruise in Wallace and a fucking kid with scrambled eggs for breakfast. (laughing) He's like, I'm out. I got a date in the desert with myself.

Just talking all over. - No one's watching you when he's like standing on the mountain top, and there's so much bad news. - Cunning Master, we're thirsty. - Cunning Master, we're thirsty. - It's like, "Den, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no."

(laughing) - Bad news, Connie Esther, a pizza for a great event. (laughing)

- Third time, both of the picture.

Yeah, Connie, she lived through the lake. - Yeah, she did through straw for five years. - Probably an answer to questions. Was Henry's mom a murder? - Oh, it's a good one.

“Could that have been an involuntary manslaughter church?”

- I think it's become clear that the rock harbor police department is not elite and investigating these issues. It's a good plan. - So I feel like she's probably getting away with it. - I got two for you.

- Yeah. - Did Mark's dad nail the Tokyo deal or what? (laughing) - Great one. - It took weeks.

- Was that keeping him up at night or was he just like, he's just like, he got it. He's bringing Hyundai's to Arizona or whatever. And then, what Mark's dad's relationship with his brother like after this?

- So, the whole drop and mark off thing didn't really work out. - That's great for you, man. - Turn out to be a different kind of drop off. They were estranged before they were even more strange.

- Yeah.

- You think it's just like, we're just never gonna talk again.

- Feels like it feels like it. I think the lingering question is, so Henry is just evil. Like is he evil or is he associated with it? - Well, the mom can say like,

Henry did tell me he murdered Richard Guis. - Yes, yes. - I do think the 86 minute movie is missing a scene in the first 40 minutes when she's in Richard's room

“or something like, you need to say the light clicking”

- Yeah. - That's creepy. - And she's just like, this is never sat right with me. - Yeah, yeah. - And I don't think they ever really accomplished that.

- There's that one moment where she's like, - 'Cause I think the mom would know. - Yeah. Then there's also like, I do like the fact that they've come back to it a couple of times

that Mark thinks she's the reincarnation of his mother. - Yes, I love that idea. - Yeah. - And that's how he taunts Henry a little bit by saying. - He's like, my mom's a little bit. - My mom's a little bit. - My mom's a little bit. - Yeah.

- You could make the case that Mark is the best thing that ever happened to that family. Because if Mark doesn't go to Maine, Connie dies. And maybe the mom-- - Well, we don't know whether Mark's introduction into the family

accelerates Henry's relationship. - She already felt Richard. - Yeah, but maybe he was like, yeah, I got him out of the way I'm good. You know, like, I'm the only son we can focus on my hockey. - I got my $10 out. - I got my $10 out.

- We're good. - Henry, Henry was like, how he was Rosemallow. He was preparing for this moment for years. - Right. - He'd been building Mr. Highway.

He'd been building the nail gun. - Sure. - He was just ready. - Sure. - He was ready for this. - Oh, he did. - He did.

- He did that in 28 draft. - I see you're very concerned about this. - Yeah, he's very concerned about this. - Yeah, definitely concerned. What was your other announcement question?

- I did the view. - You did both again.

relation? - Mark's dad's relationship, okay. - Okay, this brother. - The memorabili most want or not want from this story.

“- I think you got to get Mr. Highway sitting with us here.”

- So Mr. Highway was here right now. - Yeah. - It'd be pretty fun. - It's got to be you, Spielberg, Anthony de Bundo, Mr. Highway. - Just too rewatchable.

- He's the AJ Hawk for the rewatchable. - Yes, it's there, that's great. - Mr. Highway cam, it's just on him all the time. - What do you, Mr. Highway say low for you, everybody? - Jake it's.

- Coach Finstack, Mr. Miyagi, best worst life lesson. - Yes, you realize you can do anything you're free. - But Henry's telling us. - Pretty true to some extent. - I would say just pay for the sitter. - Yeah, don't let your son who may

have already killed one of your other sons, take your daughter, ice skating, maybe he's a good one. - Good note. - Best double featured choice.

I have Mikey first, then good son.

- So there is a kind of prevailing theory around home alone that Kevin is really the villain of the movie. - Right. - He is like the demon of the film. And so just pairing those two movies together

is pretty funny, I think. - I probably go bad so you just because it pulls so much for it. - In Culkin wins the movie. There's a decent Elijah Wood case. - But I think it's Culkin.

“- I think it's just for the limited amount of credits”

they can look all like Culkin gets. This is such a crazy outlier and it's, I think he wins it. - But because of that, I think the winner's Kit Culkin. - She's a shark. - I fucked up as that is I think he like kind of bold

charged his way into being the shadow producer of the whole thing. - Yeah. - forced his son into the project, forced his daughter into the project. And the movie was a big hit.

- Should we add a new category is how would Kit Culkin have reshaped the movie? - It's like the David O'Selsonic of the modern era. - Yeah. - Well, it's time.

Craig had never seen this movie or knew what it was.

- Both kids were fantastic. I had very little fun watching this movie until the final battle. I reveled in Henry's death. (laughing)

- I used spending 90 minutes just in final destination for children and this was a blast. And now I feel like going back, it'd be great. But I first watched, like this is very little room to breathe. Every scene is like Will and Child die for 90 minutes.

But now, like when you just don't take it seriously, kind of, you know, live outside the movie. - It's the key to, from Hell month.

“- Yes, you have to do it for different lengths.”

- There's just less pulp in this movie than like single-white female or a hand that rocks the cradle. This one is pretty much like every scene is like as a kid gonna fall down a well. (laughing)

- Yeah, harrowing movie. - Yeah, it is. - It is. - It's for like, if you get it now though. - Oh, for sure.

- I think you watch it a second time and have it. - I don't think so comedy this movie is off the charts. - That's what it is. It's just fun to talk about because it's so ridiculous. - It's just remarkable that a movie can have so many obvious

picking nits in 1993 and they're just like, oh, who cares? Like, I feel like you can't do that now. If you deliver the script, I mean, maybe for a movie that's just like go straight to streaming or something. But for a movie that is going in theaters with a big star,

there's like 15 legitimate ridiculous picking nits in this that any producer would be like, well, that doesn't make me fucking empty. - I think that there's just as many picking nits now, but like so much of that happens either

in like a John Wick style movie or a superhero movie that you're like, oh, yeah, I guess they went back in time to like fix this, sure. - Flux capacitor thing or whatever. - Well, this is actually like, no a cop would have seen this.

- But now, yeah. - Part of the reason I like keep pointing back

to the incredible level of craft

is because there's like, you know, a hundred people worked on this movie. None of them raised any of the notes about picking nits or if they did Chit Colkan overwhelmed them. But then there's like nine artisans

who are among the greatest crafts people of their era. And they're like, I'm gonna spend 38 days of my professional life making this very stupid, but ultimately very well-made movie. - And no one was like, shouldn't Wallace be chasing Mark? It's like, they're like, yeah, what I heard.

- It's funny thing is that's like one shot of like Wallace like running in the background. I mean, he's really falling in the well or something like that. - Yeah, he just doesn't chase. - We didn't mention there was a cemetery too, near them.

- Oh, yeah, it really was like an all-time kid that trap. - The final battle was elite. Like the way that shot, the chemicals up over them is their hanging gets pretty nuts. - It's a great scene, Rubin, cooking.

- The good scene from how much it's just cooking. Is this it? Is this the last one? - No, we're gonna keep going. - We might even go through through the first part of July.

- Wow. - Well, so do you not consider 2001 a part of this this week? - I think it's spiritually as 'cause it's computer from hell. - Yeah. - And it was the beginning of June,

but it's also one of the greatest movies of all time. Little insulting to put it in a thing with the good son. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Let's be.

But at the same time, we could sneak it in. - Sean Fennessey, Chris Ryan, thank you. - Thank you.

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