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bit.
Because the came out this week that Kyla will be released next week, he's $37 million
by Arizona in 26. They're paying them that and had he been on the roster post March 15th, that would have triggered a 19.5 million guaranteed for 2027. So it makes all the sense of the world, hey, they're going to get this over with quickly move on new coach, new everything, number one overall pick didn't work out, right?
There's some other parts of this too, Kyla had a statement that was nice, he was like, hey, thanks to everybody in Arizona that supported me, wasn't able to get it done. And by the other reports of you read is that he's thrilled with this option because now he's essentially going to be a free agent and he can figure out where he wants to go ahead and play.
But I can't help but think a little bit about the market. And I'll say this a lot about certain players where, you know, we'll argue about who they are, who they are, and you'll have this moment, it's kind of like the Cam Thomas moment, right? Cam Thomas is a terrific score, right?
Net's fans, you get it.
That first year, we took a million shots, I think he had like the third highest shot ratio
“of any player in the NBA before the season started, I think that was in 24, I remember”
doing a pod and I was like, you know, who shouldn't have the third like highest shot rate in the league is, is Cam Thomas? And then he comes in and he's just making ridiculous shots. He's an unbelievable shot maker, but clearly something was little off because even Brooklyn had kind of given up on it.
And in a season where Brooklyn is probably one of the worst teams in the league, they still didn't even want to play it, right? And I don't think they want to play him because it's defensive or whatever. So then it comes up on the trade deadline, you know, like, oh, it's Cam Thomas available. We can go, yeah, we're like, what could you get for this guy like he's a bucket?
And then he's like, nothing, you're like, you're not going to get anything, but I'm going to get anything for that guy. And the line that I've used really throughout my career with some of these players is that the league, I like the league can't be wrong about things, the league, whatever league. You like, they can be collectively wrong about something, but there's also a lot of times
the league's right, and the league goes, yeah, this is kind of what we think of this guy. And so it's important to remind everyone that a trade for Kyler also means that you're trading for the contract, and then you're trading likely for the trigger for next year. I believe. So there's a really easy out to go like, well, yeah, you know, I don't, I like him, but
I don't want to trade for that contract.
“So that's why there's no trade market because that was apparently the word out of the”
combine is that they talked to every single team that would be in the market for quarterback and every team was like, no, we're good. And they probably have some understanding to the agent like, hey, if they end up cutting
You, which probably makes a little bit more sense, so they can turn the page,...
can talk. But if you're thinking about, they depend, really depends on what you think of Kyler Murray. But if you're thinking about this draft and how bad the depth is at quarterback and that free agents, the quarterback don't make it to free agency if they're any good. I mean, Daniel Jones just got the transition tag after blowing out his Achilles, which I actually
understand for the cults because they're looking at it like one year going, all right, this is you know, 11% of our cap for one year, and we kind of liked him when he was here. And the cults have their own issues as they had given Anthony Richardson permission to see a trade, which you know, good luck with that. But if you're, if you're a front office, your coaches have you like, you know, there's
a lot of the Kyler stuff that we liked.
And if we get him in here, it goes with the way the cap is going to hit $300 million, making
sure that you're controlling the transaction by trading barely anything for Kyler and taking on that kind of money like I understand the NFL can be really weird sometimes where it, but like, well, I don't want to take on any of that kind of stuff. And then it's like, well, what do you think you're going to pay him in the open market? Because there's a way, and this will be what happens when the new team has Kyler Murray,
they're going to hit on all the stuff that I just hit on. He made two problems. I believe if you look at NFL starters that have started more than five games in a season going back to the data in 2003, 48% of quarterbacks have made a probable, I just made it up.
“It's not true at all, but that's what it feels like.”
All right. So it's like, hey, you made two problems.
He actually has a couple of years in there, the second or third years, they're statistically
when you look at it. You're like, you know what? That was pretty good. And he played in more games as first four years than you would probably realize. He missed six games, then he missed nine games, then he played a full season, then he missed
12 games last year, but he could have played, I think last year, but it was pretty clear when Ganon just announces like, hey, Percent's going to be the start of the rest of the way and if Kyler were ready to go, it's still going to be Percent. So they put him on IR, you have to think that they probably could have started them. They wanted to.
And they didn't want to, right? They already kind of decided as a French as they're going to turn the page on him. But I'm just telling you, like, when you go back and look at some of the numbers, where it's over 20 touchdowns, it's more than two one ratio of touchdowns and receptions.
“I think early on, there was some of the peak athleticism from him where you're like, this”
is spectacular. Shit, this guy is doing.
I think there was even a stretch, maybe like in the second or third year, or felt like
he was carrying this team a little bit. How about this number? Or quarterbacks to pass for over 20,000 yards and rush for over 3,000 yards, the first seven years of their career. Here's the list, Josh Allen, Lamar, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Kyler Murray.
So in the lack of QB talent that is available for the teams that need a guy, you know, the rest of the league still was like, yeah, I don't like the contract, like, I don't, I don't like it. I don't want to do this. And I think this might be an example of when the league kind of tells us how they feel
about something because I'll tell you, like, looking at the numbers in this morning, I'm like, man, they look way better than the experience because the year to year experience on the whole all seven years didn't feel great and granted the last three or much worse than the first four. And the biggest thing working against Kyler is I don't know that I've seen a quarterback
in, I don't want to say ever, but it's not a long list of quarterbacks that when he went down on something that didn't even seem like there was that much contact.
“And then you're like, he's still down, but he got hurt there, like, how did that happen?”
So how's that going to look like the next five years as he gets a little bit older? I mean, usually it's kind of stuff when you're young, you're invincible. And you get popped, you get right back up and there are plays with him where I'm like, he's like, how come he's still down? Like, where did where was the hit?
And it would be like something really slight, and because he's a smaller guy, he's just harder for him. It's going to be harder for him. So if you look at the quarterback needy teams, I think there's 22 teams that are locks like they're like, we're good, right?
And that's including Vegas with the number one overall pick. You take Arizona out of this because they've moved on. So the rest of the teams we're looking at here, it seems like the two of the things we're going to try one more time, Indies get to end the Jones. We've already mentioned the Anthony Richardson part of this.
This feels like such a jet's move to weight, then sign Kyler, have everybody excited. He'll probably have like an awesome game. I don't know if it would be Justin Fields week one where you're like, all right, jet's nailed it. It also feels a little bit like a Pittsburgh move, but maybe post-Homland and everything
and then we're still trying to figure out what's going to have with Rogers, which I'm sure he's going to take forever to do and have some awesome quotes along the way. And then you've got like Cleveland who I have no idea what they're doing Minnesota.
I think they're going to give nine another year, Carolina, they made it to th...
the price young, got to just don't think he was necessarily all that good, but clearly they're
not going to do anything different. And the land is already invested resources even after cousins. So there's a lot of teams that are even if we don't love their quarterback situation, you can understand or like, we kind of have to give this another year, that's probably what Carolina has to do.
Like, we get to get it, but just another year here, Minnesota, the same thing. We spent this pick. Like, let's just make sure that we don't have the right guy. And again, the Carolina Minnesota discussions are completely different. So it can kind of be whittled down to a much smaller list of teams that are sitting there
today going, we have no idea what we're going to do. And we also love Kyle and Murray, but we don't want to do all the contract because after 27 year out, it doesn't feel like a ton of money for quarterbacks, but still no one
was willing to do it because again, the reporter during the combine, there was zero market
for him.
“I think if he was thought of the way we used to think about him, you know, when it was”
exciting and you're like, can he kind of be this guy and it just hasn't been, but if you're still banking on like those really good years, you know, all right, look, I'll get him out as their Arizona, I'll bring him in with our guy. We love our OCR. OCR is going to design all this stuff.
It's going to be terrific. It's going to be great. Then you're probably still on top of everything else going like, yeah, he's actually going to stay healthy. So I don't know if this is the best example of my rule of sometimes the league, let's
us know that they're done with a player because of all these factors and limited in landing spots, but it does still feel a little crazy. Number one overall pick. I'm not even mentioning the two probals. Other people can do that, but the peaks with him and knowing with that he's with kind of
a traditionally bad franchise, that, you know, we'll see, we'll see what happens.
“He's going to get another shot clearly and I kind of hope it's the chance.”
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Lakers get a win last night at home against the pelicans, but it's always bigger picture
stuff when you're talking. Lakers and we were excited to have Yoban Booha on who you could check out is YouTube page, which I was watching this morning recapping the win against the pelicans. And of course, Booha's block is podcast as well. I don't know.
Maybe it was last week or something like that. I kind of just had this epiphany with the Lakers and I'm like, look there above average team, pretty good. I don't know that I'd pick and make any team in the first round. Maybe if the matchups break through right way, you know, then we're kind of falling apart
here to knowing the seating things can change all the kind of different stuff. We know they're bad defensively, but then to be fair, it's like, okay, but let them have their three guys. If their three guys are all playing together and, you know, it hasn't meant as many games.
“I know you have the numbers, like, you have to have an open mind about what's possible”
on their best healthy path of getting into the playoffs. So where are you with, like, the bigger picture expectations of what this Lakers team can achieve? I think you nailed it. I think they're a good team that's probably going to lose in round one.
Maybe if things break right and Luca is just that dominant in that special in a series, they get the right matchup, maybe they can make round two, but I think the most concerning thing with them, like, they've been a confounding team this season for me because they're like, you look at the record, they're right there, they're tied with Denver in the lost column and there are some things that you can extrapolate out and be like, okay, like
to your point, they haven't really had the big free this season, the right there behind Denver and OKC in terms of most missed games from, like, the top 10 in their rotation. At the same time, you look at the defense. You look at the record against teams above 500, worst among that top six. You look at the record against the top 10 in the NBA, you know, factoring in the East.
And they're also six among the top six in the West. So it's just like, some of those things that you would want to see from them in a playoff context, you haven't really seen yet. Six of their next eight games are going to be Denver twice Houston twice Minnesota and New
York.
So I think we'll have a better sense over the next couple of weeks where they're actually at, but I think the most concerning thing up to this point is like, they just don't really have any statement wins every time they've played, they just played Boston, they got their ass kicked in that game, but you look at San Antonio, OKC, Houston on Christmas,
like, they've always lost these big games that I think that's the thing that for me
for now indicates they're probably losing around one. Yeah, I mean, it's three in a row and it's like, oh, they've righted this a bit after losing three in a row and it's golden state Sacramento, New Orleans before that it's Dallas and the Clippers, Golden State, Philly, Brooklyn, and I think that was a Philly game where, you know, and B did play, so he put it up in that one.
So maybe that's the last win that you're excited about with this entire profile. I guess the other thing that I'd say to kind of cut myself off and they'd pivot any part of it was that when you look at how great the clutch record had been, at one point it was 16 and three, they went at 80% of their clutch games and it almost felt like, because whenever I have a lakeers game on, I'd look at the record and say, God, it's like a nice
record. Think that's not that I'm on it every single day, but there'd be these reminders a couple of times that we can believe, yeah, it's still a really good record and like what's possible they're in the seeding. I wonder if maybe it's just the leukopart of it, it's like, we know we are when we want
to close offensively, even with our defensive deficiencies, but it was such a ridiculous rate of gains that they're winning that maybe it was skewing, who they actually were. But again, the five seed still very much in play that you could even argue the four seed is in play.
I mean, if it shakes out, we're Minnesota and Denver's playing in the first round,
it feels like this is a ridiculous first round matchup, and maybe the clippers are not the clippers. The linkers are in that 63 matchup.
“Let's speak more of that big three part of it though, because if that's what you're”
banking on, do the numbers back up, that is actually this really dominant group together. No, they don't. So up to this point, in the season, they've played 17 games together. They're 11 and 6, but you look at the teams that they've beaten. It's like you taught twice, Brooklyn, they've beaten the clippers a couple of times.
I don't, there's no statement or stand out when in that group, and they have a minus point four net rating together.
And I think that's been the challenge, like even going back to last season, I believe
in the regular season, they were plus one together after the Minnesota series, it dropped to minus one, and then now again, we're at minus point four. So I think you just have to sample size of those guys being best pedestrian when you look at the other top teams in the West, then you put Gordon, you could turmeric out there, or you put Shay and Jayda about there, there's going to be a certain standard with those
three together, that the lakeers just haven't, you know, been able to figure out yet. So I think the biggest thing is really the defensive side, right, like there's no surprise
“there that if you're putting those three together, you have to nail the other”
two spots, and when your options are DeAndre 8, or Jackson Hayes at the five, and then Marcus Smart, Jake Leravia, Jared Vanderbilt, Rui Hachimora at the other perimeter spot, like it just hasn't really worked up to this point of the season. So I mean, the new starting group with DeAndre 8, and then Marcus Smart has been better than the original one with Rui Hachimora, I think Marcus has definitely been the fourth
best perimeter guy. I would argue probably their fourth best player overall, but the lake, like if we look at a potential playoff series here, the big three are going to be playing 38 to 42 minutes a night. So even if you try to stagger them, which JJ is tried to do a little bit more of, you
look at something like the two-man data, Austin has fit well with both, but LeBron has been better by himself, so JJ has been trying to do more Luca and Austin, and then LeBron by himself. But even if you do that, you're still going to get those guys playing at least like half the game together, you know, 20 minutes or so.
So if you're trading water during those shifts, you have to crush it in the bench shifts, and the lakers don't have the best bench, especially compared to the top of the west.
“So that's why I think they're in a bit of a tough situation here of trying to figure this”
out. Okay, Luca, it's entirely different when you're playing for the lakers. And it feels like the conversation has shifted on him a bit, and it's not so much even the production, it's probably just more eyes drawn him going like, what's up with this guy?
Like, I know he leads LeBron scoring, but is he, you know, I don't know that anybody's ready to do the like, did Nico have some, like, was he onto some things here? Some people are doing it. Some people are doing it. Okay, so do you think it's happening?
Because it's Luca with more eyes now nationally, or do you think it's happening more locally where lakers fans, like, and again, my default thing is like, there's not even any people watching as many games as you would think, and once you start there, then you'll
Understand a lot of conclusions, but are they now turning on him?
Like, what do you think is happening here more, where it's a local awakening with Luca or
“a national awakening, where it just feels, look, I think it's got to the point where it feels”
like way too negative, and the way that he's being talked about based on like what he is in this game, even with the warts. I totally agree with you, and you know, a big part of my post game shows are doing a Q&A with the audience, and I've seen the shift over the past few weeks, where it's been a lot more negativity from lakers fans toward Luca and a lot more, just not liking the aesthetics
of his game, or the shot selection, or just the heliocentric nature, so I think it's been both, you know, from the national perspective, I think this had been brewing since the 24 finals, right? Like, you had the win horse moment, and then you also had post Dallas trade, just a lot of the narrative coming out from the Dallas side, so I think this has been brewing, and
there's been a little bit of a narrative around Luca, and to be clear, like, a lot of it's fair.
“I don't, like, I think that the shot selection, the turnovers, last time was a rough.”
Like, last time was a rough, like I watched the whole game. He gets mad. He's trying to figure out what he's going to be mad about, right? And part of what makes him great is that he's one of the most arrogant professional athletes I've ever seen in my entire life, and I probably rather have that, but he was looking
for a fight last night, and he has, I think it's DeAndre Jordan on the first free throw
attempt steps in, and he was a beat early. I'd also tell every single NBA viewer, if you actually want to watch when guys get in early in the free throw attempts, it's, I don't know what's on the time. I don't know why you're allowed to line up with your foot into the paint. I don't know when this happened, every single guy is stepping over the line, and he's
a little bit early. Luca loses his shit about it, he misses the first free throw, and he doesn't let it go. He doesn't let it go. He gets the technical, and then he's still mad about it while there's a drive to the right side of a paint, and he's kind of like indifferently going like maybe I should step over
here a little bit, but he's still so focused on the official in the left corner that he's not even in the defensive play, and like that's the part of stuff where it becomes inexcusable. And now I'm kind of going on my ramp, but like last night was a really, really rough one forum.
It a game that they closed with their superior talent, and because they have a guy like
“him, and he was great, but that sums up the lake or season, I think, up to this point.”
Last night, Timmy was the most lakers win or one of their most like lakers wins of the season, like they're down to eight with seven minutes left to a pelican team, and to your point about the clutch record, I think if you go back and look at a lot, like that definitely have some nice clutch wins against Philly and Toronto and the Clippers and a few others, but like about half of those are situations where they were kind of messing around with
a sub-part team, and either blew a lead that technically went into the clutch, or they were down and had a late rally, so I think part of it's been propped up by that. Yeah, the JJ thing with him, let me start here, how would you compare JJ to other coaches that you've been covering? What stands out about JJ?
I think no surprise, but just how media savvy he is, and he certainly lost his cool to go back to like a pre-game five in the Minnesota series when he got upset about being
asked about his substitution pattern in the second half of game four.
And I think there's a genuine thoughtfulness with him that I think it's, again, no surprise that he's a former podcaster and TV guy, but I think the thing that's been tough for him, I mean, there's been several things, but like you said so many different iterations of this team, and it is just different coaching the lakers than, you know, I would talk about it during the Darwin Hamm era, but what we're talking about, like, Darwin's
bench substitutions on first take, and like you're not talking about that about like most other teams, right? So that there's a level of scrutiny that you deal with as the lakers had coach, but I think the big thing for him has been trying to balance the big three offensively, and just like you have these three guys who are all best with the ball in their hands, and it is
Lucas team, he is going to be the primary guy, but then how do you fit LeBron and Austin around that? And I mean, really, if you look at the kind of the breakdown of their season, they've kind of been better when one of the big three has been out, like they had the 15 and four start LeBron missed most of that, then Austin got injured, they had a stretch there with
Luke on LeBron leading them, or they're better, so like it's kind of an easier when it's been two of the three guys, but I think this has been the central challenge is like you
Have three guys who you could all argue deserve to have the ball in their hands.
Only one of them is going to have it, and in primarily it's going to be Lucas, so it's like how do you fit in LeBron and Austin, you're also dealing with like you're trying to win now for LeBron, but you're also looking to the future for Lucas, so there's just
“a lot of different components that I think it's been a pretty tough job, but I think”
he's got a solid job overall, and especially more like the last 15, 20 games, I think it's been better. So, Luke had come it off towards the bench and being pissed the other night, and that clipped it made the rounds. Look, look, I mean, one out of 10, I think that stuff happens, and if anything, I think
there's been a sentiment out there that JJ isn't hard enough on the guys, or that because he has a pre-existing relationship with Luke or LeBron, that he just lets those guys do whatever they want, and I like to see that, like those are two fiery guys. They both love to talk shit, and just going back and forth, like I don't think it's a big deal.
Look, being pissed at, yeah, I first of all, I might even give it half a point, because
it's like, hey, Luke has mad at somebody, no way. Oh, that's, yeah. So, in the course of a game, him being frustrated, him kind of looking for all these battles
“that are out there, would you close a playoff game with Dniangri, Inter Jackson Hayes?”
Jackson Hayes. I, I don't, I'm not this, I don't know, I would start a playoff game with Jackson Hayes. That pass that he made to the corner, to, uh, was at LaRavea, I think it was in the first half last night. I was like, I'm not even the biggest Jackson Hayes guy, but like, that's a play8n doesn't
make that play. Yeah, eightn's not a play, I got to give you your flowers, you deserve it, you were on the eightn thing from, like, I was more on your side, but,
I, I was like, okay, eight million dollars, like, I think he's lived up to the contract, but I've
been playing the transaction. Yeah, we're, yeah, I'm more so like starting level center on a team with playoff ambitions, I, it, especially the last couple months had been rough, probably. At least, the last couple weeks were it's like, so now I got to manage you dude. And then you go up against Phoenix, the team that drafted you and traded you and you drop
a two and four. So after that, I mean, you, you can't do that after that story. You can't. You can't be shit on Clint Capella and doing this feature with McMahon and then, like, all right, big boy.
Like, let's go. I mean, the Mark Williams thing, it is kind of crazy to think like, if they had just done the Mark Williams deal, they're a different team. Yeah, no, I, I mean, if they had prime, Clint Capella, they're a different team.
Like, Brian, amazing. I mean, I, I wouldn't go as far as this version of Clint Capella, but, like,
I mean, prime, Clint Capella was really good. That was a good play and like a perfect, Lucifit. Perfect Lucifit, right, because I mean, old gym, age, turn them into one of the best lob threats in the league. You'll want Buhah. You can check out his YouTube page, just type in his name. And one, or you can check out Buhah's block as podcast as well. You'll want, thank you. Appreciate it, Ryan. Microsoft Copilot, the AI assistant that actually helps you get stuff done.
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in the NBA league pass approval here, Vanessa Richardson joins us. Yes. That's not a lie. It's not a lie. Thank you, Ryan. I think you guys are terrific. I have a lot of fun. We have a lot of fun to do. There's internal rankings that I update weekly and you guys are near the top all the time. Let's talk about this rockets team, because I feel like I was leaning towards being a little dismissive, dismissive through the idea that can this team actually win an NBA championship.
I know it was a tough February, but I think the Reach Shepherd thing, the closing group, and him getting more minutes here, at least opens me to the idea of maybe something really special happening for this team. I'm not quite there yet. This month, the month journey of who this team has been, how do you feel about them right now? I think they're in a good space. The word that Reach Shepherd uses when I talk to him is just like confidence. When you're a guy that
“is a shooter, you need to shoot, and you need to have opportunities to shoot, and you need to see them”
fall to feel confident. The boost that he's given this team, when he and Kevin have both been
Going, they were against the Washington Wizards.
improved a lot off the ball. I get people aren't ever going to pay as much attention to that, which I understand, but his defense has got a lot better. He's got a lot of steals.
And so to watch his game evolve, has been really fun, and him only being in the second year,
man, like the potential is just off the charts. So do you think this is now like there's buying from EMA, and you're right about the defense, like he's a really athletic player. He broke up an alley, you, the other day, that I couldn't believe was a transition player. And look, there's some of the stuff that he had at Kentucky, where it was really, really impressive, but I guess I'm just wondering, and you would know, is this what it is now? This is the group,
this is the buy-in from EMA, because it certainly felt like a trial throughout the first few
“months of the season, if that's fair. Yeah, I mean, you have to go back to when he was drafted.”
He was drafted number three overall in a very unique situation. Most people that are drafted
that high, the teams are that high for a reason and the draft, and they're not trying to
win immediately. He was drafted to a team that wanted to win now, and he didn't get a lot of playing time last year, just because the team rockets were so deep, and all of that. He actually went to the Glyg last year for three games, and was excited to go to the Glyg, because he wanted to play so badly. Seriously, I'm not making that up. He was like, yes, so this year now obviously Fred goes down, and a lot of things happen, and the team dynamic is different, so he's getting
serious minutes, and I'm going to say something that might be the most obvious thing that's ever been stated in order to earn EMA's trust. You must play defense, and he made that clear when he became coach three years ago. There is not a single guy on the roster that doesn't get that. And so
I think Reed's defensive improvement has been a really pivotal part of him getting more minutes,
and just so fun to watch him gain that confidence and continue to make it impact. It's really fun. EMA's been on the scene now for a few seasons here, and one of the things that I really enjoyed about him in Boston is that he is just not afraid. He will go with anyone, and then once you kind of know that, then I think you almost stop wondering if you're going to get preferential treatment. How
“do you think this group is responded to his approach? I think it's been great. I mean, you have to”
think he's had like to bury in Tari, most of their career. He's had a mint Thompson, a mint's entire career, and then the veterans that have been brought in have all like Kevin worked with him at Team USA when EMA was an assistant and Brooklyn when EMA was an assistant. So I don't think there's anybody that did it know what they were getting. Definitely a tough nose approach. Definitely no nonsense. As a player, you can say whatever you want to the media, because he doesn't really
care. Any conversation he has with the media, or that you have with the media, he'll have with you. So I think that that's really important. It's just like full transparency, not holding back. It's a very organized approach, and it's been really cool to watch him transform this team. Like, there are certain teams that are stuck in rebuilds or stuck at 500, and just feel like they're not going anywhere. The rockets had everything come together perfectly like what the
fatitas and Rafel stones vision was, and then there had to be some lean years for that vision to come true. But, but their vision matching with like hiring the right coach, and then last year they bring in our two years ago, Fred and Dylan that helped just completely revamp the team. And it's been really fun to watch, but yeah, he may have been great, and you can tell the guys really respect him as to the other players around the league. I have an immense theory.
Oh, I love it. And it is, I remember doing the draft prep for him, and with that Lee, I was like, I don't know, I don't know what to do with any of that. Like, he has brother clearly the 1% of 1% of athletes. I'm not, and then it's like, oh, okay, these guys are going to be around, but then, okay, a man has kind of his breakout stretch last year. We're like, this guy can do things in the court. Like, almost no one else can do. And then he's tasked with playing point card.
And the shooting hasn't improved. Do you see how defenders sag off in him? So now it's like, if you have your initiator with the ball, and then everybody's backed up, it's like nothing is ever as bad as like the Ben Simmons entry past stuff, or it's like, well, if Ben is on it,
“Simmons side, and then Simmons defenders glued to MB, like, that's what that's going to suck.”
I'm not calling it that. No, no, but yeah. But there's certainly something for the like the anticipation of the national NBA commentary of like being in love with him. And then going into this year, we're now it feels way more about scrutiny in a spot that was going to take a lot of
Time if he was ever going to figure it out as your main on ball guy.
media, look, everybody was in love with him and Anna Sart, and for good reason. I don't feel
like I have to remind you of this, but I do feel like with certain people that just, I mean, like you're watching the games, like I feel like with people that aren't watching the games, and you and I know that there are people like that in this industry, or maybe they look at a clip every now and then, I feel like I have to remind them he's literally playing a different position. I mean, he is he is in his third year, and he and a Sart played point guard at over time
elite, but it's obviously not the same thing as playing point guard in the NBA. I have no doubt
“he's going to figure it out, but even better than that, I think friends are going to return and look”
great, read continues to evolve. But for now he has a massive responsibility, and it's not easy. I mean, he was the guy that was defending the team, the opposing team's best player every night, and putting precious to chew on skates and like just all these plays that were unbelievable. And then he's, you know, Fred gets injured, pretty close to when the season starts, and they have to flip everything around. And so I have no doubt, I mean, is figuring out, will figure it out?
I don't, I know this sounds so cliche and right, but I don't think the stat she always tells
the story either with the impact that he's making, and the way that he, you know, gets other people involved. So it's a balance, you know, it's a balance of this position that he's playing, and, and I've got so much belief in him because of his talent, because of his work ethic. But yeah, to your point, everybody falls in love with him last year, and then he has to assimilate and play a different position this year, and like anybody doing something new, there are challenges that come with that.
Can you just give us an update, though, on the Van Vleet part of it, because there was a report in February that said he's, he's basically done for the year. So I just wanted to clarify that when you said he was going to be coming back, do you mean like a long term or there's still some window, long term when he comes back, when he comes back, when he comes back, yeah, like when he comes back, they're, they're, they're right here. Like the, the rockets, I, I think, will be fine, and I, I,
I know Fred, and I know how hard he's rehabbing, and I know how much, you know, how intentional he's being, he's still around the team, right? Like he's still on the bench leading the guys at practice when there aren't cameras around, you know, making sure that guys are getting what they need. So yeah, I mean, but for right now, a minus is playing point guard, and that would be hard for anybody
to, they're third year in the league, start playing a new position.
Because you had hit me up early in the year, which I think is, it's okay to share of like some of these fourth quarter struggles where you were like, yeah, so they miss, because you told me before the season of like the no-fred things going to be a problem, and then it was like,
“well, what I said was people didn't understand the impact Fred has, but that's, that's what,”
what, what I said, but people don't understand that like, how, what Fred did off the court for civil, which, I get that, because I, there, I watch every practice, I watch every shoot around, I'm very lucky, Reffelli may allow me to do that. So I kind of get people not understanding his impact off the court, but it felt like maybe it was an under talked about story of everything Fred did on the court, calming things down, around young guys, experience matters, like I literally
just interviewed CJ McCall and who's with the hawks now, because I'm doing side-line for hawks, bucks tonight on ESPN, and like CJ was talking about how experienced matters in big moments. Fred was the one that didn't want a championship, and he had the experience. So losing him, you know, and him getting hurt was, uh, was a really big deal for the team, and I, I, I didn't feel like people were, I don't want to say that they should give the rockets grace.
I'm not saying that because I know everybody has a job to do, but when people are like, oh, the, well, the rockets can't rocket rockets are struggling to figure it out on the fourth court. It's like, yeah, their, their point guard is, is out. So yeah, Fred had a big impact on the team, and I'm, I'm definitely excited for him to return. Yeah, and I'm definitely one of those guys that are doing the fourth court thing. Um, because they, again, again, this was like, they had a year.
“I think their clutch offense was way better than I thought it was, I think it was just last year.”
I'd look at the clutch offensive, like my God, like that's an awesome rating. And then sometimes the clutch stuff can be a little weird, but I looked at it again this morning. The Vemper, they were really good offensively closing, and then December, January is 24th and 20th, so I feel like even with February's record, that it was 11th, and my eyes backed up. Like, I think this is a little bit better, because I would say to you that the times where I,
I become dismissive of, this is about them only competing with the OKCs, and then theirs. Yeah, that's fair. I get that there, tears. Everybody else. Yeah. And I'll see, like, they'll initiate maybe with a man, and then maybe he gets clogged up in what he wants to do, because somebody's helping. And then you shouldn't go with all of his talent. He could take
Guys from 30 feet away from the basket, but that's not necessarily something ...
It's like, hey, back down dribble from 30, way, 30 feet away, and that's going to be our primary number one thing that we get into. And then you can see KD get incredible. Like, I've seen it so many times where he throws his arms up. He's mad about somebody on a screen or bringing a second to fender over to him, and then they'll be times where it's like, hey, KD, here's the ball 35 away away from the hoop. And now you go solve our offensive decision. So I think the read part of it
has gotten better, but did, did you sense that, like, as you were watching it, where it was like,
“do they really, I guess the best way to ask it is, have they actually figured out who they want”
to be on those critical possessions? Because I feel like they had a lot where they weren't sure.
And that's what it did to ramp. Email, like, email, and don't go, like, to be fair, like, send out to the media. He was like, yeah, we need to, we need to, um, we need to figure out better close games or, you know, I'm paraphrasing. But it was like, that was the thing that they, that they sent to the media, that the rocket's player said was that they wanted to, you know, be great in late game situations. I also think it's cool when they, when they share the sugar,
right, like, Jubari Smith Jr. might have had a rough start to the year. He has been sensational since mid January. And when he is, you know, when they're double-teaming, Alperon, or when they're blitzing or double-teaming Kevin, they're going to, they're leaving Jubari, or is read on the floor,
read, they're leaving, essentially leaving them open. And so I think one of the things that I've
enjoyed watching, too, is in those high-pressure moments that they are going to double-out be or Kevin, the younger guys taking, taking matters into their own hands and, um, and the rockets figuring out, like, if they're going to blitz or if they're going to double or triple-team the two main scores, and especially if it's a game where the rockets are playing through Chigoon and it's ShinHub, you know, if they're going to block them out from scoring, when you have other options, so
it's a really good thing. It's a really good recipe for winning. So I definitely think that they're figuring out those late fourth-quarter situations for sure. So I guess I'd end on this because it is an odd team in the structure of it, because you have these high lottery picks, you've got a jubari, you've got to read, for instance, a little bit later, a men's a higher pick, and yet there's
“championship aspirations because chigoon's been so terrific, and then Durant comes in, and I think”
the Durant part of it has been everything you could hope for from to be healthy to putting up these kinds of numbers. But, you know, basketball, the NBA teams, I mean, this is not specific to the Houston Rockets, but you could have a bunch of individuals at times, and I'd say the Lakers are like a good example of that at times, it feels like, is everybody on their own plan over there, what's going on? Like, from a connection standpoint, with everything that's gone
on this year, like how connected do you feel this team is heading into the final stretch of the regular season? I think they're really connected. Anytime you make a roster change, there's, you know, significant roster changes, there's going to be a period of time where everybody's assimilating, but, but I have seen, I am at every practice, I am at every, around, I'm in the locker room, I'm on the team plane. This is a very connected team. It just is, and it's been really cool to watch,
you know, Jabari learned from Kevin and, and read, just light up when the veterans are on the bench and encouraging him, and so it is a very uniquely made-up team. There's no doubt about it, and, you know, when they traded Dylan, you know, for who is, of course, part of the deal to bring over Kevin Durant, mean Dylan was a massive part of the team's identity. Again, something that email and the guys have said publicly. So, yeah, of course, I mean, when you add new pieces,
there's going to be a time of where everybody's assimilating, but the team chemistry is great,
“and the guys get along, and, you know, the Western Conference Ryan, what are you going to do?”
It's kind of a bloodbath every year, so we'll see what happens, but I have faith, I'm excited. Yeah, you can have a couple of teams that have title aspirations. They feel like they're
worthy of a couple of things break right, and they could be losing in the first route. I mean,
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watch and want it to be something else, but because of injuries and because of just the normal transition of things, this is the way sports work. I guess I want Steph in meaningful basketball. You reported March 1st, the knee would be looked at again in 10 days from March 1st. So I mean, this is a team that is probably lucky to even be a 500 team with some of the names that are running out there. So what are we supposed to do? Those are us that are holding out any
kind of hope for them to be fully healthy for the playoffs. Well, fully healthy can't because of Butler, right? I mean, he tears his ACL and January. I don't think we'll see him again until maybe January of next season. Sure. Somewhere around there. But just Steph getting back from this run as he and Chris Opsourcing is somehow getting a full runway of games. He's played one out of the
first nine since he's been traded 17 total minutes. So there's a world I could see them on playing.
“We have important business step on the floor. That week, their whole season will be that week,”
trying to fight their way into the playoffs. They can't go up. They can't go down because of what 11 through 15 in the West looks like. So I just pretty much think we could pencil them in for the nine 10 against Portland is my guess at this point. And I guess that's is that meaningful enough. Like a Tuesday night, nine 10 Portland Trail Blazers Warriors playing game. Yeah, probably. And what I'm saying here is is like, when I watch their games,
I'm both amazed at how great of a job the front office has done with all these role players on the margins. You know, the top five scores in February were Moody, Gies Santos, Melton, Pajamski, and then Pursingus Techically in the one game that he played there. Any night, like, if you go back to, I don't know, February the start of February. They've had seven different leading scores. So there's a lot of things where you go, hey, that's a nice
rotational piece. That's a nice rotational piece. And I guess I'm just sitting there like probably a lot of warriors fans are going, yeah, great job. Like, but this sucks. Like, going, no. This isn't, this isn't what I want. No, it's going nowhere. I mean, look, if you add Raymond Green, who's had a really down month down season, you're kind of starting to see a little bit of the decline. He turned 36 today. If you add him in and then the three I mentioned
who aren't playing Pursingus Butler stuff, that's $170 million of like, either in activity,
three-force of it, or with Dreyman just at times they're better without him right now, because I think he's pretty tied to Steph as far as like, you know, particularly offensively, you know,
“the success of Dreyman Green. I think it's tied to Steph, where they've closed better at times”
without Horford and Gessanto's, you know, in the front court. So it's, yeah, I mean, Geely Groster, minimum type roster. I mean, Moses Moody's about their highest paid player that's been active, you know, most of the time, lightly at 13 million. So you mentioned, I mean, they've had some nice wins. The Denver one at home on, on ESPN. Like, that was, it was a nice moment for some of their role guys, but this is not, you know, a playoff product right now. And unless Steph Curry
gets back, it really just won't be. What is the difference in the like, okay, so his last game was January 30th. Maybe this is one of those things in the old player, and we've seen teams do this in the past, but it's like, oh, I'll be fine. I'll be fine. I'll be fine. You know, it's, we're now heading into a month and a half. So how is the health update or understanding of his knee injury changed over that time? Yeah. So you remember the game that had postponed in Minneapolis with everything
that was going on in that city? He went and worked out in the arena that day. It was January 24th. And this popped up, you know, after the workout, it's like swellings, you know, in the kind of like the kneecap areas, what they call runners knee, it's like an overuse type injury. I played through it, saw me played one of the Minnesota games, played a game against Utah. They were playing to
Troy. You mentioned it, January 30th last game he's played. He had like an M1 in the third quarter,
and it was just bothering him too much. So going into the break, they decided, hey, shut him down for three, four games, bring him out of the break with poor Zingus. That was the plan.
He worked out over all start weekend, and it just didn't feel right.
particularly during court workouts, it's swelling, and it's like kind of dull pain. And it's just
that they decided he came out of the break. They thought he was going to skimage on the Wednesday before the Boston game coming out of the break, and he just told him, I'm not ready for live, and they just shut him down. And he's just remained shut down. And I do think, yeah, I do know, you don't talk behind the scenes. There is a hope they can ramp him up in this month, month, the march, get him back on the court. See how the knee responds. He's called it unpredictable. So
I don't think anybody's guaranteed. He's, you're going to see him necessarily this season. But that's the plan. And, you know, if he gets out there, there'll at least be a few more fun, you know, nights of basketball to watch. But he turns 38 on Friday and 10 days from from when we're speaking.
“I mean, I think that's the, the bigger picture view of this is, is the age of the roster and the”
age of Steph Curry and the concern that this is an overuse injury on a knee that runs the most miles in the league when he's on the court. Right, Prasing is, um, hey, welcome to those warriors fans that were like, is this, is this how it works with him? He had the mysterious illness going back to last year's playoff run with Celtics. They just couldn't quite figure it out. They try to get him out of the court. It just wasn't working. Atlanta is excited because of the idea, the idea of
this stretch vibe that can shoot it as well as he can shoot it and also give you the room protection when he's playing. I mean, this is, these guys didn't even have to be great and they make a ton of money and yet he's played in one game. So I don't know if it's anything to do with the frustration of like this is all the commingorship for two plus years and this is what we get for. So I don't know if it makes the Pursingus acquisition seen that much worse even though to me that tells you
there was no market for commingor really on top of everything else that this is what they could do. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's two parts of it, the commingoparp, but also the Pursingus T's part, which you mentioned. I mean, even if you talk to Atlanta people, the 17 games he played, it was like, what they thought it was going to be, but it was like, it was only 17. That was the problem with the warriors, you know, they, they, they thought he was going to play in that Denver game and he
called in and he was sick prior. They, he practiced on a Friday and got upgraded recently and then called it again and wasn't able to play. So it's been like fits in starts and you mentioned it. I think part of there, I know part of their strategy besides trying to go big fish hunting with the honest at the deadline was expirings. And you know, when they were talking to Sacramento, who was trying to get in on the commingop front and we're, you know, it's a monk. It's a deros
“and they were telling us that go get an expiring if you want to get in the conversation. I mean,”
you know, perhaps that becomes a money-saving thing, but the big thing with Portuguese right now,
it's 31 million dollars of expiring. It'll probably help with some flexibility if they just
let them walk this summer. But when it comes to Christoph Swordsing, as I think part of their thought was, you get, porting is in for the last two months and his careers on the line right now, right? Because if he could put together 15 to 20 productive games and look like a real piece that the warriors need stretch five, who can rim protect next to Dreimon, they'd give him a nice little contract, not 31 million, but I think they, you know, I talked to Mike Dunley,
he said he's not viewed as a rental, but if he just can't even get it on the floor barely, and the next couple of months, like, what is his market this summer? Is he a minimum guy? How does the league? I mean, at this point, there's just three straight franchises that just can't seem to solve whatever he's dealing with fatigue wise and with this issue. And so I don't know how you could rely on him more than necessarily a minimum unless he proves otherwise.
You've done an awesome job just kind of educating us on the Kominga disconnect there, because I think if you just, you know, take a blink shot of the whole thing and, you know, it's the right night you go, like, who wouldn't want this kind of dynamic guy, this size, this wing, he's young and all the different things, and I think you one time you'd explain, like, and you were nice about it, you're like, here's an example is he's out there with Stephen
Clay, Clay's absolutely cooking, they're running him off of these screens, like everything's supposed to, like, let's just have some fun with Clay, like, Clay's having one of those moments, and then Kominga, like, dribbled into the corner, took a pull-up from, like, 18 feet on his own. Way from the play, it was just, I don't know if I'm getting that right, but that was something you were explaining to us, or it's just, you know, whether, I don't know that wise men's even
fair to bring up in this, but like, Steve is trying to win championships, and it was pretty clear. He's like, those developmental minutes, like, they're not going to happen here, and I don't know if Steve totally believes like, hey, I didn't do a great job with Kominga, maybe there's parts of him that believes that, because he was going to be just really restrictive with the mistakes he was going to allow to make a lot of these young guys to make, because it's like,
hey, we also have all these Hall of Famers over here that are still, like, competing in a really
“high level, so I can't just give you all these developmental minutes. So maybe that's what he means,”
maybe Steve actually just knows that it sounds good, it's just kind of a nice way to put a ball
on the whole thing, so there's no hard feelings, even though those probably always going to be hard
Feelings, but, you know, they goes off in a game of the hawks, I mean, just g...
and to worry, your skin's like, is there anyone with golden seats is like, oh no,
“he might be good, or I would go to that point at the direct top of the organization, right?”
At this point, and go to somebody who's like, you know, kind of always believe, right, Joe Laco,
certainly, but you know, it was not good optics when Dominique Wilkins a well-respected Hall of Famers, like screaming into the microphone, the other night is, you know, coming as Wimmel Duncan, thank you warriors, thank you Steve Kerr, you know, I mean, that's, it's not a good look, particularly as you mentioned, when the guy they got him for his played 70 minutes since he's been acquired. You know, the Cummings stuff, yeah, I mean, that framing makes it, makes it tough,
but go, yeah, the crowd was shining it too, but, you know, with Cummings stuff, I think if Steve Kerr goes back, you'd say, you know, why wasn't he playing more over Anthony Lamb in year two? Why was Joe Michael Green, you know, getting minutes over him? And, you know, you mentioned that there was the nightly motives of Steve Kerr, and I think one of the problems with people just say, you know, he was on the championship team, right? Cummings, it was, he actually started three playoff games
in that 2022 title run, but generally, it wasn't just that it was a title team, it was that in those seasons, they actually got very behind during the year, and they were chasing every night, felt important standing as well. I said, if they were just a one-see, like thunder-wise, where you could be like, you know, the thunder could throw a bunch of developmental minutes out to, like, co-pitch or whoever right now, because every regular season night doesn't matter for the warriors,
“and I think an important moment to Cummings career, Steve Kerr just needed to win on that Thursday,”
and at times didn't feel like Cummings was like a great seventh eighth man over a guisanto's over an Anthony Lamb on that particular night. I mean, you mentioned some of the pull-up stuff, I remember a play in Detroit that was pointed out to me, this was probably year two or three, where they put him in, fresh off the bench, the guard booked on of it, it's in the winter time, the arenas kind of cold, and the Cummings blown on his hands when he gets in the game,
right? Like trying to warm himself up, he's guarded booked on of it, but garnish just goes quick pinned down three, and Kerr was like so frustrated with it, but they came to realize he wasn't
12-minute player, he wasn't a roll guy, a guisanto's has always been kind of the,
I guess juxtaposition guy they've used, because he is the energy guy, you put him on the floor, three of the highest energy minutes you can get, he's going to salute to the coach, go right back to the bench, and by the end, by year three, four, five, Cummings, it was just sitting there saying, like either platform me, give me 30 minutes and night, it doesn't have to be 25 type shots, but it has to be a level of nightly trust, where he knows he can make mistakes and won't get
yanked around the rotation, or if you don't believe me that way, if the coach doesn't believe me, trade, you know, get me out of here, and then you know, I've written about it that that's where the disconnect was, where management wouldn't part with them because of the tantalizing talent, but the head coach, which they wouldn't part with, understandably, just couldn't ever believe in him, the way Cummings wanted and in sports, when you know your coach does not believe in you,
the way you do, the way Cummings clearly does, it's just going to inevitably lead to these issues that that boiled and boiled and boiled and boiled to the point that what happened happened. Is there any chance for a major shake-up to saw season? Yeah, certainly, you know, you wonder about Dreimon's future, he's out expecting to pick up his player option, but you know, he was at least dependent on who you asked that they fought back against it,
but with at least made it relatively available in the right deal at the deadline, so you wonder about his future, poor Zingus, you wonder about his future, Steve Kerr, obviously, you know, he's on the last year of his deal, that's going to be a major talk and point, and I just think how it feels that it heading into the offseason, how they feel like they can rearrange the roster, we'll dictate whether Steve Kerr necessarily wants to be back and then, you know, if there's suddenly
no Steve Kerr and Dreimon Green next season, it feels completely different, right?
You think Steph never plays somewhere else? No, I don't, I think his view of his Tim Duncan,
“Dirk Noiski, Kobe Bryant style career matters a lot to him. I mean, his life is very settled in”
the bay. I think that unlike other stars who maybe have never won a title, like he's not, obviously he wants number five, but it's not like he needs it to cement the legacy. He retires tomorrow. He's what a top 10, top 15 player of all time. I just, I don't think he views himself going ring Jason at 3940 elsewhere personally. Anthony Slider, ESPN, thanks man. Yep. Before we get to life advice, the alliance marches on. We have picks for you, but
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"Wah, just throwing money down the toilet, you know, people just shedding on us." Because they just shed on everything all the time. It's like, "Nope, three, for three, actually." So, there we go. What's up? Yeah, I see it all the time. You just like, "Yeah, cool. Nobody likes anything." There weren't people who had our best.
Jay was a little note today.
What's that? Jay was a nice little note today, that was cool. Yep. Yeah, Jack, our guy had us up. I mean, people--
“I think they'll run. He's got an A's. A bottle of wine, guy?”
Yeah. Somali, Jay. The New York finance here. No, there was actually a lot of, there's been hitin' us up left and right about this. I think it's a big deal. Like, I don't think people are like, "How the hell
do you get-- You guys are-- I feel pretty good today." Yeah, that's what I boosted me. That's for sure. Change my week. That's great. Yeah. All right, we'll stay hot.
Well, I screwed us last week in the line, so that's my bad. Jay and Brown did not go over points, but you guys hit your bets. So, let me bring up the records. We're still-- All right, though. I think let's see. Yeah, I do want to say just for, for, you know, a very sick. For clarity sake, you know, I picked hearted and before the, the thumb thing came out,
I switched to my boy, Ty Jerome, two plus three as he delivered four of eight.
So, uh, I drove back in this. Yeah. I always love Ty Jerome.
Go who's that Memphis roster's fun. You've been watching them. Not a ton, you know. You're gonna be honest. Yeah. No, yeah, it's just, I was just like looking at the 10 guys they sent out last night and then I said a game. I was like, damn, I was more of a Kyle guy guy than a Ty Jerome guy, but just think back to that road. It was like, yeah, I remember those guys.
So, what are the Kyle guys stats there? He retired from basketball last year, I think. Oh, all right, well, good for him. Thy loves Kyle guy and college. Yeah. Really, uh, right at seven and nine. Kyle, 10 and six, nine and six with two, like, got two pushes. Two pushes. Okay. Yeah. Kyle's in the lead. So, one's lead us off, Kyle. What do we got? Sure. Sure. Uh, I've used my king of the core bonus bet already on this. It came through. Yeah.
Not too long ago. Thank you, draft Kings. I was worried about antsy. I was given away to come out.
“We were like, you look, give it a kill. Give it a little bit. You have to get, you know,”
they're going to verify stuff. Yeah. I agree. I agree. Um, but so I'm taking the adjusted spread next plus seven and a half versus the thunder tonight. I think they've got some adjusted spread. You added three points. I did. I did. I did. I did. Hey, it's getting us right into the sweet zone. So, uh, whatever. I used my, I used my winnings on that. So trust it, book it. It's just my bet and Ryan's bet putton put in the parlay on our back. But it's okay.
Let's do it. No, we missed a push. How many all spreads? Why use this here? Zero. I think. I'm also using zero, but what's your record buddy? Okay. For the record. It's funny. You say that. Some of us like to do it harder. Don't worse. Anyway. Ooh, Ryan, you're up. Portland, Memphis under 235 and a half. Some of these Portland totals have been huge. Huge, I tell you. I wanted to go scoot over 12 and have points. It came in at 14 and a half points. By the time we
wanted to do it. So I don't know what happened there. I couldn't have a little. That was my 200. So we were going to do that. Yeah. Memphis is running out of these guys playing defense like two way players. So I just think there's a lot of guards like Pippin's back. Wells is back. I don't know. There's just too much. I can't touch your own was back. Javan's small in the cut. You guys watch any Javan's small. It's like, hey, did they make
you look like how small John Moran is now? I don't know. Different hats all together. Under, under, although Portland's been putting up some massive totals lately and they're playing for something. But I don't, I don't want to do a scoot over against these just hounds of Memphis that are going to be unleashed on the back court. Maybe a little underplay. I'm going to go back to the money line well. This is the hawks are actually underdogs
“one and a half points. But I think they win outright at Milwaukee tonight. Books. I know”
Yamus is back. Still don't trust them. Don't like them. And I like hawks seem to spot. So I'm going to take them on the money line. I think it's like minus one or five by itself. So those three together, next plus seven and a half, all spread the under in. I just want to make sure we yeah, we want to know it. Blazers Grizzlies. Oh, let's know it. And hawks money line is almost
Plus 500.
you want to be. Right here with my friends back on the show. Let's do life advice. You want details? Bye. I drive a Ferrari 355 cabbie all day. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fort. I have every toy you can possibly imagine. And best of all kids. I am liquid. So now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. Life advice. Life advice [email protected]. Surruity back in the mix. Yeah. How was the the Bahamas or was I worth the Bahamas? They were great.
Right. Right. First time I did. Yeah. So we're time in the Caribbean.
“Hello there. For mute is not the Caribbean, right? I don't think I think I have my way for mute. Yeah.”
Oh, I'm saying it was the first time I was in the Caribbean. I've been to Bermuda for mute is not the Caribbean. I've noticed that. You guys are in the Caribbean, guys. For mute is like a road. I want that thing. Yeah. So basically you got the coast of like North Carolina, right? Essentially. I'll be honest, you like the first time I actually saw that. I went, what the fuck is that? Because just as a kid you're like me to triangle and you're like this. Yes. It's like near Africa.
You're like, oh, it's like Delaware. I think we talked about this before. Yeah. The thought of me remediating triangle would be a more of a hindrance to my life. But it just like, I guess it's like quick. I mean, I think hot to me. I'm just like, why is anyone flying over it? You know, you're a lunch break out of juice box? Like, I don't know. You guys heard about this? You think like one of every six planes is gone based on how the people talk about it. But yeah, we just didn't have a lot of
stuff when I was a little kid. You know, so stuff stayed with you a lot longer. But Adam that movie
where he gets kidnapped. Nope, lost me. Don't know. Yes, I think like 70 million people watched it.
You're just walking around going to grocery stores being like, if I'm away from my mom for two seconds, I'm going to end up in a van. Yeah. That was a wrap again. It for me too. But I was without it. Yeah. You guys are the like MCM where, you know, your children are. Is that have to do with that?
“Situation. Now, I mean, it's an awful story. You have to look it up. But this kid was abducted and”
then it was John Walsh. I think it was a son who FBI, Americans, most wanted thing. So there was this whole movie about it. Um, and the movie kept rearing because we only had like three channels on top of everything else. So every single person walking around knew about this story and then it led to this hysteria of like, if you're a Bradley's and you get lost in Star Wars figures, your mother would come over. Like, there should be moms everywhere just freaking out because of this movie. Yeah, they said
my name on the Kmart Intercom. What's a twice and I think I've never been that scared. That's a lot.
I've never been more scared. I got to Kmart though. It's Kmart. Yeah. Anyway, for me to try and go see you anyway, Bahamas was great. Um, everything was great other than men. Like, I kind of took a beating on the blackjack table as I have never seen more three, four, five card 21s in like a 48-hour span. Wow. But we survived. Beach was great. Dach Presscott was apparently there. Not at the same sort of resort, different section. We weren't that cool to get in that part of it. But it was good time.
Yeah. I'm a big, uh, Dach's fun. And it's brother. I've used a big wheel cane fan. Yeah, what was his name? Uh, it is name. He's the calling to wheelchair all the time. But I ran into those guys one night when I was just some other guys and they were, they were great. So, shout out to Dach. I know who I've run into a couple places. One being like a tropical location. Donovan McNapp. He's like, I just hand places. Donovan App. Yeah, I played beer
pong with him in, um, do you twist your nipples off? No, he had to touch his finger around the, yeah. He went from kind of hot to cold. Um, and I was just like, yeah, sure, I'm done. But, um, yeah, seen him a couple places. So I'm at Super Bowl just randomly on the street. Didn't like ask if
“you remember, remember me, but yeah, he was just like popped up several places that I've been”
not really during a football thing. So it's just me and him got like a weird weird thing. Oh, yeah. That's great, man. Yeah. All right. Ted Prescott by the way, shout out to Ted. To say, is there, I'm not saying this is if I wanted to get off anything, I just feel like we didn't really get the deep dive in the Bahamas. No, it wasn't, I mean, you know, it's one of those things where like in the Northeast, you got to do the Kyle, you'll know this now. Um, you got to
do the January like February, just like get out of here for like a long weekend thing, get the more weather and I didn't, I wasn't good enough at doing that. I'm not a good planner. It's part of the reason why being married is awesome. No, the two kids are like, yeah, let's tackle this. And do you let me tell you, not change in diapers, not having to wake up with the Black Racket Dawn to do something
To go sleep in her bed or whatever.
grandparents shout to them. They stayed at our place, took care of the things, but then last night right in the
thick of things, slept in my daughter's bed for about five hours last night, back hurts. Um, six a.m. Bluey session. So we're back at it. Yeah, that sounds awesome. Yeah. No, I, I, look, I, I get it. Sort of. Not really. There were times on the trip, though, or like, because it was, there's like a water park there, and you're like, oh, man, this would be cool to do with like the, with like my, my, you know, the daughters or whatever. I mean, one of my daughters won. So it's like, not yet, but you're thinking
that in your head, but you know, like, yeah, but then like 90% of the rest of this would be horrible, essentially. So it's like, can I hang out with the kid for like an hour a day after the resort, and then they can just go to some camp. That's kind of what they do. There's like these kids that they just go to camp all day when you're at these resorts. So maybe that's the future play.
“I think it's nice even thought about it. How about that? How do you get that? Yeah. Okay.”
Get some emails here. This one's a little bit of time sensitive. So he sent it twice. And I think I think we'll just try to help him out. Pirate optional party. 26, 6-foot-1-19, you know, Jim Stats, 10,000 steps a day, including springing home for the bars and times, player comp, marching Gord taught, but not Holy Ball, yeah. The white hour. All right. That is really good. So one of the best nicknames ever, yeah. Spreading home for the bar, that's like that old Jeremy
shocky shit. Remember reading that profile. He's like out all night in Vegas and then like went back to his hotel room and did like 500 crunches and it was like, I got to sweat it out. Like, I don't know if you can keep doing it. You'll worth it at that point. Yeah. Some guy like 41, like, what are you doing? Oh, for a piece. I don't know why the 41-year-olds would have the roommate, but I'm reaching out. Maybe it would be a woman. Because it is interesting you say that about me being married and the
“planning things. I remember when VanPelt first, first got married, right? That was there. So I”
felt like I can share this a little bit. Like he comes to the show. He's so happy. He's so fucking happy. New wife happy. He just comes to the studio and he's like, man, he's like, some of the wolf that being married stuff is fucking awesome. And I was like, what's going on? Tell me about it. Oh, great one. He's like, there's cold cuts. Like, there's deli meat in the fridge. And all my sodas are cold. He's like, so I could just, I just come home and there's like stuff to make.
This is ridiculous. I was like, you know, you could have done that before though, right? He was like, no, no. Anyway, so a little marriage lesson for the guys on the fence about them today. So Rudy approved and helped proves. All right. So I'm reaching out with a pirate theme predicament. I live in North Carolina. It's a big pirate. Pirates are huge in North Carolina. Most of my friends
from college live in New York City. I haven't visited there before. First time to the big city,
a little country mouse action here. But I'm flying there in a few weeks. It's two of the core group are celebrating birthdays. The plan of the trip is a party where they're running out of art. These guys are doing it up. Right. The invite screenshot included. It just says beer on it. Seriously. There's a, there's a couple other factors that it says. There's a location time. Some of it's redacted. Right. So it appears to be a big ACC game. Beer seems to be a focal point
of it. The beer font is like 40 and every other font might be reassured. We're emphasizing the beer enough, which is we make it bigger. Do people know the beer there? Wow. They sure do. It also says pirate optional in about a six font. It's like disclaimer at the bottom. Or is it somewhere in the middle that you expect it to be seen? It's pretty well done. I think it's a grassy null background here. But it says who it's hosted by and some other stuff's redacted and then it just
has a little shirt emoji and says pirate optional. So let's keep reading this. Right. The invite screenshot included. List the tire as pirate optional. Like keep close and touch with these guys. Group chat is active daily. At least monthly phone calls, monthly phone calls and they're 20.
It's amazing for dudes. And this is the core friend group. Every single one of them is insisting
they're wearing full pirate a tire and it's going to be completely normal. And it's sick party.
“Here's the thing. We've never done anything like this in all the years I've done these guys.”
I'm the out of town guy flying in the beach. This is generally cannot tell if I'm being set up to walk in a rented bar in Manhattan dressed like a pirate while everyone else is in normal close and becoming forever known as Steve the pirate. I love that. Oh man. That's exactly what it is. Oh shit. So my question is how do I actually feel out whether this is real without tipping my hand?
If I can't know for sure, do I commit to the bit or show up in normal?
hedge. PS the eye patches early in the mail. It sucks because there's like as I get older there's less and less stuff that I would be excited to dress for. But pirate show pirates are still up there. I really
like the the Puffy shirt sign fell that person. You've always loved pirate pirates. I thought
“that was a great shirt honestly. And since I was like the will turner Puffy shirts from pirates of the”
Caribbean, like I still like that stuff. Unfortunately that wouldn't go with my advice is like can you go pirate light? Is there anything you could quickly get like change change out of if you're like oh they got me. Keep the eye patch in your pocket. What would pirate like be? I don't know. Maybe you have a Puffy shirt but there's like a jacket sort of blazer thing that could go over it and where it wouldn't look so ridiculous. I don't I don't actually know but the more information
I have the year the one guy who's out of town they're very excited to get you up in there neck of the woods. It sounds like this is gonna be a pirate ambush where no one actually is gonna be a pirate. But because like you want to fucking roll with a punches a little bit I don't know. I might actually if I found a like like sexy Halloween costume pirate like I think I might do that. If I'm like you know what I might actually. Like I might just like I could pull this off and you know
this is the only time I'm really gonna get to do this. I might still do it. I don't know is the hotel close could you keep a go bag with you or it's like all right we're going out after this. This does seem the further away from 12 o'clock noon it seems like it's more and more stupid. There might be something you could just back up with. I don't know. But you guys are a way that you could like I don't know be like hey what you know where you guys get your stuff from get some more background
information from those guys about like is it a party depot center situation like what's what's where's everybody in the supplies panel today if it's if it's really sketchy then you kind of know and then if they're being you know if they're not if you're pulling a lot of punches then you probably know this maybe it's just you. I don't know. Sometimes though like if you show up at this thing like it could be a good thing for you. It's a good conversation starter for the girls like
I don't I don't actually hate you just being the solo pirate guy like it you know if you could pull it off and you're confident with it like I actually think this could be a good thing for you regardless.
“Yeah I think Steve nailed it in a way because it depends on your personality right? Yeah like I”
personally wouldn't want to be the only pirate. I don't think I I wouldn't decide yeah I would show up and I'd be like are you guys fucking serious I'd be salty for like an hour. Yeah that's the knock on me I'm not proud of that but I know myself this is the pirate episode make you feel any different that it's not mandatory you know what I mean that he might not even take the bait like do you think they maybe left too much on the bone there if they really wanted this to
work out that they said optional. It does feel a little weird maybe like if you're going to go pirate go pirate you know but maybe they're afraid there's a bunch of girls and aren't going to want to just like pirates in March okay I don't know you know I guess how we back in the day didn't matter what the temperature was girls would if there's just to get dressed up they were going to dress up you know yeah there's probably here here's where you really need to do though
before all this because I think Steve nailed something in that if you have the personality for it and you show up as the only pilot it's the best icebreaker ever like you're the new guy
yeah right but do your friends do stuff like this okay and you said they've never done like
a dress up thing but do they do they mess do you guys mess with each other or two is going to get a native level right because a couple guys that I can think of I think we probably all have a couple friends you're like that guy would never do this you would never put in this everyone even think of it doesn't mean he's dumb but it's just that's not necessarily anything that
“is back yeah right so the pirate thing is throwing you off but you have to separate the pirate”
from this and go into as there've been other stuff like one time we still one of our roommates car the night of his first day and parked it at the girls house and he was so stupid and then he asked for a ride to her house and then we brought him to her house and his car was there so pretty nice stakes a little confusing but yeah I was he was pretty confused by the whole thing and then he was trying to
took your car and parked it at my house and it's our first date like yeah that didn't work out yeah
we did some other stuff I think too to the car but you you just have to kind of go like is this completely unprecedented from your group of friends that would spend time coordinate this and bite you up put it on the invite and the whole thing if you want to cover your bases but the
Fact you said ps ipatch is dirty in the mail or it's already been ordered it ...
yeah and I think if you're the fun guy you can end up winning the night even though it was the prank
on you yeah maybe you don't be bummed if it if it wasn't you know although maybe if he's the solo pirate he actually wants that but that that that responsibility for a guy if you're a person now he's like that that's yeah maybe he wants that talk about the alpha these girls they hate you
“think it was a costume party and just go what are you talking about yeah that's all good I think”
you can totally pull it off I'd say maybe don't spend too much on the props if you got like a reptic that replica blunder butts and you got to leave that when you guys go to the next one is there a week link in the friend group you know you hit him up like hey who's your pirate guy
up in New York City and he's like what are you talking about or he just gives it away it's always a bad
actor facing the group is big enough there's a bad actor where you be able to figure out okay this guy's this guy's bad at it it's like that guy in your fraternity like you can't do the fake stuff with the pledges because you you're terrible at it you're acting so bad that you're just gonna give it all away all right I want to hopefully get a follow up I want to know if this actually goes down a lot of Brady hat response follow up oh yeah every single person
to the guy who emailed your screwed the hat no one is on your side the hat is on I'll listen on the plane yesterday yeah yeah that's it's it's you're talking about kids like you're not getting this hat back from a kid like they all all adding the hot stamp yeah like
“wait it's all adding up to no no way yeah okay I think we had um”
all right this one was a little tough a lot of people fast- sake of a Kyle schedule didn't we already do that what it's just people want to know more about your schedule they they feel like my work schedule yeah geez guy like I don't know why that was so funny that got this funny this isn't HR buddy it's just an email yeah just go back and listen man I don't know what you want I want to re-weekly break down
of where all your hours are it's like Pam like I need you to just keep track of what Michael's doing yeah all right write it down send it to me all right I want to get back together my X but she's gained weight this one's gonna go over well what's up crew big fan of the show long time listener six foot one eighty mostly stick to the machines that gym so I don't have great data on one rep max now you don't player comp quit in Jackson we're gonna win a lot of games
if I have the ball my hands too much but if you squint you may just end up giving me a three-year deal it's good mid-20s live in Chicago broke out my long-term girlfriend seven years so wait okay so you probably apologize yeah about a year and a half go broke up for right issues that we had I've dated around since then I do pretty well for myself humble brag
“but I've yet to find a girl I've connected with quite like her the more time passes the more I think”
maybe I had what I was looking for all along anyway this past week and one of our mutual friends
host the birthday party cheese there first time I've seen her quite a while the only problem is she appears
with gained 10 to 15 pounds and certainly does not look like her peak self however I had 15 beverages not insane that evening it was willing to look past that we hook up great night a lot of fun with her and we've been texting ever since I would consider working on trying to solve our issues and give it another shot due to the connection I feel with her but I'm simply not as attracted to hers I once was my question is is there any way that I can ask her to
attempt to lose the extra weight she gained if we were to give it another shot is there a way to do that without sounding like a complete total asshole potentially ruining the chance of making a work thanks guys look forward to hearing back I'll talk about here like a clause hey here's the deal you get down to one 21122 I'm all the way back in get Albert Haynesworth's lawyer in the next you know that's good not not unless you guys like
join a fucking run club together or something where it's like me too there's no fucking way man I think we've answered this type of ship before there's a way to do it but there's not a way to do it where both of you or one of you don't hate you or it's really sad or there's tears involved or like you know it's almost like bullying at a certain point at a certain point so I don't I don't unless it's like a joint thing I don't know don't know how we're living together simple run club
Like you guys are living together so it's not like you can control the intake...
we're doing a juice cleanse this week makes the name greens like there's you guys aren't together like you used to be so you guys are going back to your own lifestyles after every meet-up right so I don't think it's I don't think there's a way to pull it off unless you guys are you know going on hikes every week or something I don't know you ever as you reminds me you probably have not seen this movie but I saw this on a first date when this movie came out how to lose a
guy in 10 days um K-huts in the Conahay and it's not bad but there's always this one line that
“just once seen that like stick I think it's that movie that sticks in my mind when I forget what's”
happening but basically they're trying to tell like this model to like lose weight but they can't actually tell or to lose weight so they're like they're not telling you to lose weight just like go on the scale and subtract 10 not saying lose weight just like get on the scale subtract 10 can't do that unfortunately as well I could have returned some of her old clothes like oh there's no way to do it so we just there isn't problem yeah like yeah I think about what you're
saying think about what you're saying to her she's probably been upset this entire time even broken up and maybe that's part of the weekend I also think 10 to 15 pounds is like
not that big of a deal I guess you get to the frame and sure like if you were always 130 in
the two ways for a 20 personally like whatever you know uh oh no look stick on this I'm just just kidding no I just it doesn't I mean look there's obviously scenarios where you go oh my god you know but I have no idea what a frame is so 10 to 15 pounds maybe a big deal it may not be the guy said he's not as attracted to a right so you're gonna be the dick no one's gonna like you just ahead so because of that email and the way that you said everything but there's also a very
“real part of it of like you're attracted to what you're attracted to um I think I think you're”
26 and being stupid right you did it for this long you have this connection with her you clearly
miss her and you hook up with her again and you say you have this great night so there's probably
a more valuable thing that's happening with this this woman not to say that it can't ever happen like right now this is kind of making you feel like this is the right thing and look we can all be shallow some more than others I can be shallow about some stuff but you can let 10 pounds get in the way of that and you don't know like maybe when she's back together with you she's happy or more motivated maybe she was upset about all this thing and then it just all kind of works
itself out if this is that big of a fucking deal but what I would tell you is that prioritizing a slight weight gain over all the other things that you've pointed out yourself that are really valuable in a relationship feels stupid also it's March 4th dude this is what people decide to ramp up you know great call there's a little blip this is March there's yeah there's a little blip Jan one and then you know March is when people are like all right gonna take these clothes
out of the box under the stairs and we got to make sure we fit in there so you know who we don't know you don't know what the next two months are going to bring anyway be positive these heavy
“cashmeer numbers box and you wrote over yeah yeah so I think that's the part you should”
focus on you really gonna let 10 pounds get in the way of a soul mate hmm well said t-shirt kind of got damn what I don't find that shirt that dude that you told us about off air that you meant huge fan I think we have time for one more yeah it's quick five ten recently ran a one twenty nine half marathon pick up game mid two thousand's Reggie Evans well yeah Evans I think he's another one of those guys like some twelve-year-old has an
account it's like Reggie Evans is a problem they're like yeah these seven don't see he was he was aggressive and difficult I'm a guidance counselor in middle school a new substitute teacher just started apparently he looks exactly like me I'm bald or the beard the new guy also bald with a beard outside of that we look nothing alike hey welcome welcome to the game check my DM's like yo come get your boy recilla there was a funny one there was one that was usually
they're like come on I get I guess bald of the beard but there was one guy I don't know if you guys seen it it's like a guy who's like going to jail for 15 years tomorrow and he's drinking a beard and it's like more more close than any of the other doppelgangers anyone sent me that's like
Me I don't think I drink the night before I was going away for 15 years proba...
I mean it's hard to say I don't think I want to be hung over that day yeah it's hard to say
“anyway that one what's funny ever since he started every staff members felt”
the need to tell me we looked the same every day for a week straight jokes like you didn't tell
me you had a brother why don't you tell us you cloned yourself or constant and first I figured
it would die down it hasn't I get that it's harmless but it's kind of annoying has society casually lumps all bald guys of the beard together hey when I had hair if he was to think I looked like AJ presents key then it switched over to Matt Naggi to Chicago legends yeah if it were about wait or a big nose making constant comments would be a problem you're right
hey did you see that other guy with a huge shnazz just like yours what do you guys related
how did you see it's a fucking best it's like closest it's ever been I've seen this one I've received a lot of it's good because it's like if shit went real bad for
“yeah you were working outside that's what you would do sometimes I wish I was working outside”
me too man is out on the boat the other day polishing the rails I was like you know what nobody could be questioning my hours and see it all over me yeah look unfortunately whatever happens is hour all out of group each other or not like you can't say hey this nationality seems to look similar right like is that doesn't work nope um but if you're a bald guy with a beard you're just not protected by whatever fair game for some kind of laws there are right so hey did you see the new
fat manager he's disgusting he's the same size as you guys on the same same program you know you wouldn't do that it's kind of like the other thing it's like you weren't supposed to make fun of fat when you were a kid but you could make fun of skinny again it's a skinny kid it was just like oh
“so I just I'm not protected by whatever the only way he then he'd look he goes my question is”
am I being overly sensitive here is it fair to be annoyed as being reduced to bald guy number one I guess it's better than being bald guy number two what's the adult move leaning to it with jokes shut it down suddenly just accept this you said he was a substitute teacher right those guys don't
stay long yeah yeah he looks like you're the man was here first there you go yeah you're always
ready bald yeah with a beard number one man it's what I say to my Luca comps him like he looks like me I'm wailed anyway dude you get compared to Luca you guys just sent me a guy who's going away for 15 years yeah not saying I hate it just saying I you just got to come back with like a one line of that you just say don't think about too much that'll do it for the show today thanks to Tom thanks to Kevin things to Kyle thanks to Schroedie come brought ending the rhyme or solo show are still sports
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