Lane/LSU Back Down & a Texas-Ohio State Preview with Bruce Feldman, Plus the NFL's Continued Lack of QB Development

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but somebody that knows the sport really well, joins us throughout the season, Bruce Feldman from Fox Sports and also the athletic checkout, his annual freaks list,

“which is a great kind of teaser to what you should expect from some of the top players,”

the freaks and college football, and he's with us now. What's up? Brian, good to see you. All right, so let's start with kind of like what I was talking to you about off the air, because we go back and forth a little bit, and I read your previews, I read all these previews,

and everything's always spun positively, which is to be expected. I'm kind of used to with this

point. I guess you used to have them spring training all the time, too. But over the concerns, we have of like contenders, like what do you believe is real? You know, like there's a really part like there's a part of me, I'll use her an example, like material being healthy if it truly was his hand with Oklahoma's defense. Like we may have to look at them entirely differently, not based on what we saw in the opening weekend, but as materials healthy, like they're a different team.

Yeah, I mean, the people I talked to inside that program feel like they aren't just a little better on offense, they're going to be way better, and it's not just material. Last year, he was playing behind a really inexperienced young offensive line. Now, a lot of those guys were talented or soft moors, but they also added to really experienced guys from the portal. I have a lot of game reps, a lot of snaps, that roads well. The other thing I've heard that people rave about inside the

“program is the impact Jason Whitton has made as the Titans coach. And I think people can look”

at us when we have Titans coach, but last year, they were dreadful at that spot. Not only has Whitton health them in terms of kind of developing the room and kind of setting the tone, but also they added three really good players, really good Titans to that room. And they're big guys. I think it gives material and Ben Arbock will go out with his coordinator. A lot of different options. They also added Troll Harris, who's a bigger receiver as an outside guy. Last year,

who's a dynamic slot. They had Deon Burke, who really is a slot. They were trying to, you know, when he was healthy trying to play them outside, because they just didn't have somebody out there, and now they have that with Harris. Like they said, you know, with the Titans, it gives them a lot of

“versatility. And I think, you know, material tore it up when he was at Washington State. And obviously”

last year, we didn't get to see, I think, the best of them for a variety of reasons beyond just the thumb injury on a throwing cap. All right, Alabama. That's another team, offensive line issues. You know, I think Keylon, obviously, is clearly full of every kind of talent you would want. For a quarterback who can also run like he can, but I would tell you, like, I thought there

were some issues that they had. And granted, maybe it's the first week, and it's not just a quarterback,

but that's another group, another offensive line where if it's Bama, like there's a standard that we expect to see. And there's even, I'd even add this, like, I think the board's terrific, and you're also following Sabin. So you're following, like, the most detail oriented guy going, but even against ECU, I'm like, man, they still make a lot of like stupid mistakes, where it's just kind of loose. Like, there's, there's not a tightness to this group. And I remember the Vandy game,

you know, when you had defense players like yelling at each other on Bama's defense and you go, I'm not used to ever seeing this. And granted, it's a little unfair post-sabin, but I don't know, there's just a lot of stuff with them from the first game, even in a win where they

“put a 48 that I didn't like. Yeah, I mean, I think you all suck the factor in post-sabin”

in this era is different than what Sabin had when the field was really tilted towards his program and, you know, a handful of others, you know, Vandy doesn't become, you know, a 10-win team in a different, you know, 10 years ago. I mean, it's just a very dramatic change in the landscape of college football, but no doubt. I mean, I talked to coaches. We did a coaches survey a couple of weeks ago. And one of the coaches made the point, I like to borrow a lot, but it feels like

they're a packed 12 kind of team. There's a little bit of a softness there. And I think what they've tried to do in the trenches is they got way bigger on the defensive line. They took one of Oregon's, you know, bigger guys who has been really good for them, they added one of USC's Neal. I mean, I think a lot of people go, well, there's more packed 12 guys or whatever, but they feel much bigger there. Yansake here is a big time guy. They're loaded in the secondary,

which, you know, they're big and long and that should vote well. But the other part of it, as you said, isn't just the running game, it's like, you know, because Kielan Russell was leaving Russia last week. Now, they're really excited about E.J. Crowell. He's a five-star running back.

“He was banged up in camp. I think there were pleasantly surprised you. He was able to play as much as he”

was last weekend. And I think as, you know, now they got Kentucky on the road. It's an SEC game. I think we'll see a lot more of them. You know, they changed old line coaches and they brought in Adrian Klam. You know, I'd been with the Patriots, been with the Steelers, also a guy who did a really good job at Oregon. And for everything I've heard, they feel like their guys are coming off the ball better. But again, I think the biggest question mark a lot of people have is not just

can they run the football? It's will they run the football? You know, will Ryan Grove didn't have a reputation for being committed to the run certainly when he was the OC of the C-Hawks. And he did a good job at, you know, we had 10X and they almost won the national title, again, at Washington. But that team wasn't really a really good, you know, running team, or they really didn't hang their hat on it. And I think that's a question. It'll be interesting

to see because it's one thing to run it against teams. You're a lot better than. It's another thing to run it against the other heavyweight to the SEC. And that remains to be seen. But again, you know, the Crowell piece of it and also, I really think Klam Russell is a big

upgrade even though they took a first round quarterback. I think people are going to look

okay. Now they have an RPO game. The last two guys, it wasn't just Ty Simpson. It was Milro, they just weren't comfortable in the RPO world, whereas Russell is. He can extend plays. I mean, he's still a really uncoordered back. But there's an it factor there that everybody who's been around them points to. Your coaches poll, was it that it was what six of 12 votes for Oregon went in the national title. Did it feel like the voters were voting because they thought it was

like collectively Oregon's turn? I mean, it would have six guys vote for it. I mean, I guess that many people are just kind of convinced that that's where they sit in the big ten, which I'll admit throughout the entire summer. I was like, I don't know. It's a coin toss for me in those three teams. I have no idea how to separate the three. Yeah, I think some of the Ryan is they had a bunch of

D-Line men come back. That doesn't always happen. You have a really explosive group of receivers. We

know they're going to be good running the football for this in the back field. I get it to after

in to any quarterback, if we can lead a team to a title, you get into this category of like

our people really all in on arch. Do they think there's enough on offense around CJ car at Notre Day? Julian saying yes, that often should be terrific. But at the same time, their defense lost three lead players in the middle of the defense. And their schedule is brutal. They probably have the hardest

“schedule in the country. Again, I think it was a sizable number who decided who said they picked”

the organ. They felt like it was kind of their time and they're probably more sold on Dante more than they are in some of these other quarterbacks in the middle of it. You're a personal opinion of those three or three big tent teams. I give you a pick the order of them. I would go Oregon, man, it's hard to go again, say Daddy. I would go Oregon, Indiana, Iowa State. I think at this point. Now, you know, we're going to find out a lot more about Ohio State this weekend. I think the

thing to keep in mind with Indiana is they have a pretty cozy schedule. It doesn't really pick up momentum until like early mid-October. So that gives them a runway, now Hoover, Joshua

will look terrific in the first time out. They getting Kobe Barton, you know, who's a really

talented running back and they felt like they had a good one-two punch with turbo Richard the

“transfer from BC and him. Then Barton got hurt in the game with like, I think it was either a shoulder”

or an arm injury before even how to carry. And, you know, he may be out for a month plus. And so that's a, that's a little bit of a concern, but you know, there are receivers you're good in or no, their defense is really good. To me, it's like hard to pick against a many at this point. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Ohio State perception-wise. Like if they lose the Texas and to me, you know, I think to most reasonable people would be like, okay, well,

there's schedules a little different week to than everybody else. And you know, how to hear it up Texas is for this rematch, considering, you know, how close that game was and probably costs Texas a playoff spot. It's just because of the schedule alone. Just, if Ohio State goes into Austin loses and then it's like, oh, okay, well, now I really like those other big 10 teams that would

“be a massive mistake. I think, uh, LSU. So, temple, I guess, was the last team to be kicked out of a”

conference that was like 25 years ago, but it was temple. And with Lane Kiffin determined to add players that were on pro-rosters that ended up not making the rosters to bring them back. You like, three guys lined up for it. And then it sounded like the rest of the SEC was furious about this. And then they apparently earlier this week, even threatened to say, hey, maybe we'll kick you out of a conference, which none of us necessarily believed would happen. Then, of course, after Lane Blast

Clemson, he says imagine if we had pro players, because he just can't help himself with this kind of stuff. LSU, since late last night, has since, like, just given up, like, hey, we're not going to do this. So, we're going to move forward. Your thoughts on kind of the timeline of what Kiffin was trying to do there in Baton Rouge? Yeah, I think part of Lane's kind of DNA is he does not think he's going to do what Lane wants to do until somebody clicks his face on the skillet kind of thing

goes, no, you can't. No, this isn't going to happen. And I think his inclination and his instincts

are always to ask for forgiveness as opposed to, you know, asking for permission, you know, after

he's done it. And if you look at his track record, you know, save and shove them out the door when in the playoff, when Lane had already got the FAU job. He was like, I don't want, you know, you're a distraction. We don't need this for you. And, you know, they brought sark up or promoted him up for the be the play call of the national title game. And obviously, he got fired on the tarmac at USC. But so many other times, Lane has been able to kind of squirrel was way out of, you know, a really

dicey situation. And for everything we've heard is that the SEC and Greg Sanky are really disgusted by how he's created this side show. And LSU and so it's also not honestly just Lane. It is the politicians in the state, you know, the governor and other, you know, political people and it's gotten to be this soap opera. And it's really, you know, kind of, I think it's embarrassing for the SEC, you know. And, you know, there's people you talk to there who are like, you know, they just had a

dominant performance in it and really embarrassed Clemson. And yet most of the headlines are about what the hell was going on with Lane Kiffin. You know, and I think there were people I talked to on Tuesday morning at LSU who are like, man, he is playing with fire. He doesn't even, he doesn't even

a whole year because if Sanky really wants to send a message to him, be like, no, no, no, I'm not

“having around. And I think that's the part where we don't really know how is this going to, where is”

this going to land? Because you can back off. But after you put at SEC, Sanky was on a stand that a court for three hours getting grilled and it was like really awkward for everything I was told. So, you know, I'm sure he's a prideful guy and they want alignment and they want people, you know, in their members to be on the same page and to be supportive of the conference, not to embarrass the conference. And to some degree, I think this side show with LSU.

And he clearly didn't need those two guys. You know, it wasn't like, they already have, you know, as somebody, I was like, how is the tight end? I asked somebody on LSU. They were like, well, he was there trade as green. Trade as green is more talented than him. But, and then the other defensive alignment, it was like maybe you could have been back for the old mystery match. You know, we're talking about guys who didn't stick on NFL roster, right? So, I mean,

they're good players and they're definitely going to help from a depth would help from a depth standpoint. But, you know, was it worth the trouble for LSU? Probably not. Yeah, I mean, they might be that good. Clemson also might be that bad. Do you have any idea

“after that first game? Yeah, I think Clemson is pretty bad. I think that what that game”

showed, you know, all schools miss on their evaluation from time to time. I think Clemson is missing more than, you know, in the last few years, they've obviously had staff shakeups and everything else. But, because they do not have the luxury, I'm not taking the luxury, have been able to backfill the roster through the portal and fill in to like gaps into position rooms. It's really come back to bite them. Like last year, they were really disappointing offense that had a lot

of experience on the old line. And obviously, club make it played for three years. This one does not have that kind of experience and they just look like they're not ready to play. They were just overwhelmed by LSU. Yeah, LSU's really talented. LSU, by the way, plays really fast and all that kind of the tempo there, I think, can overwhelm a team, especially in Death Valley. You and I both been there. That is the place in college football in terms of like it feels like Thunderdome, you know,

“and with a lot more boosts. And I think there's just a unique energy there. And Clemson”

was not ready. And I would start to pivot from on this about them as like heck, they could lose at home to build Bella chicks from North Carolina team, you know, in a week. And I don't think anybody would have predicted that 10 days ago, even coming out of Ireland. But they just look so bad. And it's like they don't have some talent. They have some good receivers. Sammy Brown is one of the best defensive players in the country, not just one of the best linebackers. But I think in the

trenches, they are sorely lacking. And, you know, Davos is over $50 million. I don't know what's

going to happen at the end of the year. He obviously had his press conference, I think it was on Monday or Tuesday, where he was very defiant in what people were talking to him. Like, he doesn't tend to like admit mistakes, where other people are like, no, that was a glaring screw-up you made. And he just kind of, you know, maybe it's at times it's commendable, but other times it's like, hey, your heads in the sand on this, everybody else sees it, but you.

To be Davos, you know, I've talked about this a little bit before, not specific, even at Davos. And it said, you come in. And by the way, everybody was kind of like, what are we doing here?

When he first got the job, it was like, Davos is going to be the head coach, like, you know,

Rudy, down in Tuscaloosa. And so they got to a slow start and then he's like the only guy that's even hanging with Saban. You know, it's it's remarkable considering during Saban's thing that they get him twice in the national championship game. So when you do that, like, why would you ever think you were going to be wrong? But the rules are so different. I think there's also like how hungry could you possibly be, but then he becomes so miserable because all the time that

he was doubted, he proved all of those doubters wrong. I think it's very hard for a person to go through what he went through and prove that he was the man. And now have the same collection of

people now doubting them all over again, I would think it's human nature that he's never really

going to give into thinking that he's necessarily wrong. The problem is like the results are showing you here now. Like the first, I broke it up like the last 11 years. I mean, they were top five seven straight years. They were top three five straight years. And now they had one, I think in the last

it's heading towards in 26 to. Yeah, I, you know, I don't thought a couple of days ago. The in 2020

was that, you know, I into the 2019 season, I remember I'm at New Orleans, you know, in my hotel about to leave to go get on a media shuttle, to go the LSU's point comes in the title game.

“And I think I was doing fine bone. And the question somebody asked me was, I, I think it was”

all I'm trying to remember who came from. But it was, if Clemson wins tonight, has dabbo surpassed Sabanas, the best coaching college football. And I didn't think he was, I didn't think they were going to win because just having been around LSU on that run, I was like nobody's beating this team, nobody's beating Joe Burrell. But that was the, the thought process for a lot of people was Clemson dabbo's going to win his third national title. And, you know, third time over the SEC,

and this is the best team, the SEC has to offer and he's going to beat them. And then all of a sudden, and it's not really all of a sudden because it's like he had a stretch before last year, where was a bunch of like ten and three kind of seasons, which were, were not bad years, but compared to where they were, they fell back. And I think the, the obvious question was,

"Has dabbo and Clemson won their last championship?" You know, I think the reality is, even

if he was getting still some really good recruits, it was like, yeah, right now, something's missing. And it's a lot of things. It was the portal. It was maybe the perfect balance of just staff that he had at the time, and then got, you know, Tony L. At least, eventable leaves, just got leaves. It just, um, I think it just started to erode, and then you get stubborn, and coaches are the most stubborn human beings on the, on the place of the earth, especially football coaches,

because they have 120 dudes to manage and in college and everything else. And I think that catches up to you, you know, and I think as much as he wants to list, you know, as much as the inclination, maybe you don't listen to people in your staff or wherever sometimes you're wondering, I was like, all right, did everybody get complacent here? Did people catch up to what worked good at? And again, I don't think they're going to do what, you know, they're going to be 2 in 10

like Florida State was a couple of years ago, but they could be 5 and 7 pretty easily. I mean, they have issues of quarterback, they're bad in the trenches, I mean, and those two things,

“if you have to strengthen your offense as receivers, and you can't get them the ball, that doesn't”

do you much good? Would Miami win the SEC? Ooh, that's a good one. I didn't thought about that. Whew, right now Miami, I think, is more talented than even Texas, and because I think they have more talent in the trenches. And, you know, I don't know, I wouldn't bet against them. It's just, can they win the SEC? They couldn't win the ACC for 20 years. Now, it's been we're going to say they're going to win a much tougher conference. And, you know, I joke about it,

but there is something to be said for, you know, it's more than a two game season. People can rip Notre Dame all day, one about their schedule. Miami's schedule in the ACC is not good, but you watch them, you're like, man, men's a really looks good, Mark. Fletcher is one of the best running backs in the country. Malachi, Tony is like a generational player in terms of like the impact he has in the game because he's unguardable. They have other good receivers. They're huge on the

O'Line. And they're good in the on the back end. And I think Mario is put together a very good staff.

“It's just, you know, like, it's, I feel like it's the level of consistency you need to”

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who most people pick as they think is like the best team as a Texas and the SEC.

You know, it's a cop out to say we're going to find out a lot more in this weekend. But like, we just haven't seen it from them. They're talented. You know, I like arch. I really like cam Coleman. They have two really good running backs. You know, Rehean Biles is a big upgrade at lineback in the middle of the defense. You have Collin Simmons is a really good player to get on the back end of your special teams. But, you know, I don't know. Do we trust Sark? That's the,

“you know, that's the weird question asked is I think for so long he was kind of the trendy answer”

for like one of the best offensive minds in college football. And then there's times where it's like, okay, there is talented as a team are playing it and there's like some head scratching moments in the red zone or different things where you're like, okay, does he get too cute? What is, you know, where is this? Now, I do think the mobility and the playmaking ability that that arch brings is a much different than yours. You know, he's a, he can be a problem for teams

where his yours was not that. I just think you have a way more dynamic athlete. And that always

causes people problems. I think the area that had been as Sark's kryptonite for the last couple years, I felt like was Georgia. And this isn't the Georgia team that was like back to back titles. But it was still a Georgia team that I felt like was more physical than Texas and just played with like an edge. And that's the part where like, okay, this Texas is going to have that edge. I mean, you know, like, I feel like I'm almost there on Texas and yet I'm like, I don't know.

It just, there's like an edge there where what I picked them against, you know, in a neutral

“site, what I picked them against Miami, I don't know if I would because I think Miami is a tougher”

team. I don't know if I would pick them against Georgia because I feel like Georgia is just a

tougher team. But they're, I mean, I still think they're one of the most fabulous talented teams in the country. And they've spent a lot of money on the portal and I think it's going to show up this weekend. Do you think Texas be so high of state? I do because it's home. And I feel like, you know, you look at the numbers with sand, sand's dramatically different. Like all quarterbacks are different. One, you know, depending on the competition. But like last year, Miami got to him, I think five times.

And, you know, he did not play well in that game or, you know, they scored whatever 14 points. I don't think Texas is as nasty on the defense as Miami was last year. But I think, you know,

“look, I think they will be a problem for Ohio State's offensive line. You know, Ohio State”

one of their tackles didn't have a great week last week against a much more inferior competition. So I think that is a concern for them. You know, the sand's a really accurate quarterback with a court release. He's not super mobile either, though. It's not like he's will Howard back there or certainly like, you know, some of the other quarterbacks of Ohio State had. And I think that might be a little bit of a concern on the road and a place that, you know, Texas is a lot more of a

home field advantage now than it was like 10 years ago, like credit to like their their university. They operated like the energy and the way the place sounds and it feels more like a home field and and bandage than it used to. And I think that could also play into, you know, communication issues and some of the, you know, how Ohio State handles this. Okay. All right. So more of these coaches pulled responses here. Um, does anyone want their vote over on the biggest sleeper in the

country with Michigan lead away? Man, now they, there wasn't a lot of votes for any specific team. They got the most. I think it was, you know, three three. Right. Three, three and eight. Well, three, three of 18, 18. Um, okay. Yeah. So, but I think a lot of that was hey, they trust Kyle winning and they trust Kyle winning them's culture with these athletes. The biggest issue right now is what do you do with the quarterback who, you know, you spent, um, low eight figures on and he's not

ready to play. He's just not, you know, he, he doesn't trust his eyes. You don't know of what he, you know, if he can read defenses at this point. Uh, he, he, he's really, um, inaccurate as feet are all over the place. Even then, even they stuff you think he would be excel, it exceptional at in terms of in the run game. Just doesn't feel like he's comfortable with that at times. Um, and I think he's

Hail Mary not was standing. They did not play well. He did not play well and all eyes are on him and

“winning him is now had to answer for it and was like, you know, he's a starting quarterback for now.”

I know they do like Tommy car. She did a younger brother. Um, I'm not sure he's going to be a budget. Yeah. I don't know if, I don't know if, I don't know if Chase is ready to, ready to roll for, for Brent Bental hole just in this. Put it on and everybody's radar. That's all. Um, but I, I'm not sure Tommy car would be ready for this. I mean, again, going to play Oklahoma's defense when Brent Bental bowls and it's also not like they have Ohio State's talent or they

have Oregon's talent. They don't on offense. The online is not what it was a few years ago.

The receiving core has never been, you know, great there. I mean, it was great, you know,

whatever 30 years ago. But it was like, it's, it's really, you know, kind of above average, but not not elite. A few years ago, they had really good tight ends. I'm not sure it's there. And they also, you know, the running backs are good. But again, the offense of line isn't, you know, isn't a lead at this point or close to it. And I think it's right now you have a program that is figuring out, oh, we got we're in transition. It's a second year. It's for, for underwood in a second

system. It's pretty different. The coaching styles are very different. And, um, it's, you know, there's a lot of growing pains. And I don't know how they come through the growing pains now, because I would be surprised that there are top 25 team this year. I really, I don't think

there, um, I don't think that was very fluke, what happened last week against Western Michigan.

“I kind of think that's what they are. You know, what are they hanging their hat on? I don't know.”

If I said, Bryce, underwoods a Florida state next to your starting Bitcoin, which, what would you say? Who's coaching on the floor to stay? I don't know. I mean, um, I was like, I just try to pick less miles next team. If you told me, Bryce, underwood, it was at Rutgers and Brian Kelly's coaching. Thank you. Do you imagine the sideline interaction between the two of that, um, when it's going bad? I don't know where, you know, like, because obviously DJ, you ended up in Tallahassee.

And he was like, you know, the, one of the last super sized five-star quarterbacks, you kind of fizzled or did fizzled, he kind of, um, and then he ended up in the Florida state and that didn't go good, um, or didn't go well. And I, I don't know how this plays out, but I, you know, I would be surprised that he's going to be back next year. It just, like, I think after a while, if it keeps going in a direction, nothing to show that we're going to get a fast change in terms of like

he's going to pull out of it and all of a sudden he is going to go into look like Sam Darnold or something or some other, you know, athletic quarterback who has toughness and figures it out on the fly. I don't know, you know, like, I don't know how he's kind of kind of stays there if it's just, you know, the coach is telling you, uh, I'm not, I'm not going to be this patient with you. I thought it was really revealing for winning him to go. Yeah, you know, this is not infinite

on this and I would say like on some of those third and thirteenths where he touched it and runs

like you're not going to, you're not going to get there. Like I understand some guys do it,

“like Reynolds for Clemson against LSU, I think he was running around on third and forever because”

it was like whatever we're down 40, like I'm just trying to, I'm trying to make sure we don't turn it over and punt and Bryce will have some of these plays where he touches it. I'm like, there's no, there's no way, there's in a competitive game, like you're not going to get to this sticks on this one. All right. You're not in high school, I mean, you're not in high school. Yeah, right. I have a 66 year old head coach who is planning on retiring and Allison, he got us,

you know, a second chance at coaching at it and it's at a blue blood program with a lot of fleas on it and now all of a sudden, you know, how patient is he going to be at 66? I don't, you know, I don't think he's going to expect, oh yeah, you know, in 20, 28, we can be dangerous. I don't think I wouldn't have looked at anything that way. I want to ask you about this transfer portal gap, which I've referenced a couple of times here on the show on like longer term, or ACC in

big 12 coaches feeling, you know, like man, you know, like sure text text seems like they can get anybody they want in, you know, there's, there's one dispersed, you know, Houston's grabbed a few guys, literally Miami can get whoever they want. There's a couple guys there around the top, but, you know, I've referenced it. I know you follow this kind of stuff. Is there any concern in the world of the coaches that you talked to where it's like, man, we were heading

on two diverging paths here between what the two top conferences are getting in the portals.

and it depends on what school you're at, because like Miami and Texas Tech, they recruit like ACC programs. You know, from a story I'm working on for next week, you know, I talk to a very

credible source on this, who said there are six schools that basically have $50 million budget.

Two of those are not in the big, big 10 or the SEC. Miami and Texas Tech are in there along with

“Texas, LSU, Ohio State. And I think Oregon was the other one. That's, you know, so you have,”

essentially, to, you know, two big 10 or three SEC and another two big 10, two big, two SEC and then the other two are, you know, act like that. And they are such outliers compared, because I think if you go back to the rest of the, let's say the ACC, Clemson doesn't get after the people in the portal to begin with. But Florida State, when I talk to somebody down there, you know, about a month ago, the point they made is,

we did not, we were not aggressive financially in the portal. We did not have that money to go

after you guys. It's why you get ash and Daniel says you're starting quarterback. And a guy who has like a six and 20 record, you know, has a starter. And the thinking, this person had was yeah, they're saving their money up for something else, which means to pay off Mike Norvel to get

“out of here. This is clearly not working. Louisville, I think, had one of the, you know, probably”

a top 20 portal class according to like the two four sevens of the world. And you see what, you know, they're a talented team you watched them on Sunday against Ole Miss. They went toe to toe with them. If they weren't so sloppy, you know, I think they probably win that game. But there's other aspects of the ACC, you look at Boston College. You know, I had people this all season, somebody like that job is one of the hardest jobs in college football now. It has been left behind

in the financial realities of the NIL portal world. And you know, as you know, because you grew up in New England, they were consistently good. Big Nell had a lot of good years, Tom O'Brien had a lot of good years. Even Frank Spaziani and Steve Odazio had decent years. You know, like Odazio had like, I felt like he was seven and five or seven and six every year, not great, but also not like what Phil O'Brien just did last year. And what it feels like he's going to do again. And the point

“in that was, and this is where I think it's the larger point, do VC has some parallels with Northwestern”

and Bandie. Where the change really is different is Northwestern in the in the Big 10 and Bandie obviously in the ACC are getting big TV money. That doesn't, that's not happening in the ACC for Boston College. And so that adds to it, right? And I think with the Big 12, yeah, you know, like the UIU also has the crumble cookie, you know, fortune and everything like that. But a lot of those other places, they're not, they're not built to be what Texas and Oklahoma were.

Texas Tech just got lucky that they, that they're one of Lisa's former offense alignment, made billions of dollars in the energy business and he's thrown it into the football program. I think that's rare. And you know, this, this is the reality everybody has when, you know, when we talk to coaches in both leagues, especially, they kind of shrug their shoulders at it. They'd like to have a, a Cody Campbell, they don't. And it's just like, you know, this is it.

And a lot of coaches, if they were being honest, we'll tell you, they'd rather be in the NFL than they'd rather be in college because of how this calendar and everything else about it works.

But there's only so many NFL jobs. I always wondered if, you know, we'd be kind of a new

money thing. We're all of a sudden, all of these boosters, you know, that love their program. And then it's kind of like, oh, wow, we can throw some extra money and now this thing, sort of illegal, like, let's go out there and get ourselves a really good quarterback. And then you're hitting people up that are really motivated to do this for the first time is, is this all kind of like change course, you know, four or five years ago. And then you're like, oh,

we still stink. So what's, what's the point? And my guess would be there's a lot of programs that are making phone calls. The people asking, like, hey, they want to get back involved in the NFL thing. And they may have gotten like a surge in the beginning. And now there's very little interest for a ton of programs that the boosters should just like this, this is sort of pointless. Like, I'm just throwing money at something that we can't compete, we can't compete with some of these other

schools. There is nothing more predictable than the college basketball cycle of some source

sustainable. And then it happens every year. The prices keep going up. I mean, if even the beginning

“you'd you would say, hey, some of these programs are going to in five years have $50 million”

budgets for just their football roster, you be like, well, that's ridiculous. Like, that's not going to happen. But then sometimes I think, well, what is the value of the quarterback? Like if we put this much value on the NFL, if you get the right guy, like those numbers are just going to keep going up and up because it's like an open market. And you just kind of keep bidding on these guys, which again, I think drives the top end prices, but also discourages how many of the P4 programs

where there are alums are like, this is pointless. And they're getting less money in the next couple years and they were at the beginning of all of this. Yeah, I think it's a, it's the drug that nobody can quit, you know, if you think about it in that and that term. Now, like some of the boosters, and I think this is a big chunk of boosters struggle with the notion of, hey, I'm going to pay

this player who maybe hasn't done anything, you know, $2.5 million. That to them is a shock to the

system still. And I think they're uncomfortable with that model. They're more, they're more fine with paying, you know, they're a head football coach, $12 million a year. Then they are with playing a defensive end, you know, $800,000, you know, because it's harder for them to see the, you know, yeah, maybe this guy turns into Allen Bailey, almost not of them do. You know, it's, you're trying

“to thread an needle into this. And I think we'll remember the guys who turned it around. Like,”

like, phonics was a big recruited Auburn. Obviously coaches kid, and everybody knew who he was. And then he was kind of, you know, really up and down. He got to Oregon, system was really good, flourished, had a terrific, you know, second act. And obviously, you know, when is a first round pick and it's done really well for the broncos, that is the exception rather than the rule. There's more DJUs than there are bone mixes. And yeah, Dante Moore, second act has

been really good. But I, you know, think of it through this lens a lot, where, you know, every year I go out through, you'll need 11. It's not far from where we live. And here, and you see, most of the best quarterback recruits in the country. And the year that CJ Carr and Dylan Rialo were in that class. There was 20 kill artifacts of those 20. A lot of them were already transferred twice, most almost all of them were transferred once. By the end of this class, I think the only

quarterback of the 20 who may end up finishing his career with a place he signed is CJ Carr. And I'm not saying that's the only reason why CJ Carr is thriving. But I think there is so much of of an instinct where I got a plane now. And if I'm not playing, where should I go? You know, you have a better chance

to find a, you know, a Campus was kind of lightening a bottle, right? He was a division two quarterback who was like not playing a division two until the latter part of his time there. And then Lane ended up with him.

I don't think Lane had any idea where he had

“until he was playing and Austin Simmons got hurt, right?”

And so you see some of those stories of the guys

who break through at the third stop or at some point.

And that doesn't mean they're gonna turn out to be cannibaliums in the NFL or Jaden Daniels or Joe Burrow. 'Cause all those guys also, you know, ended up someplace else. But I just think it's like so much harder to do the evaluations now because it's like speed dating

you're doing all this stuff and I were adding money to it. I mean, I did some study, I don't know, probably like six years ago where I looked at like the previous 15 years of five star quarterbacks. And I figured out that about 30% of those five star quarterbacks

came close to living up to the height. And that's the thing they were, you know, heisman guys or heisman finals, but came close to it. 30% that was before they started getting millions of dollars and TV deals and all this other stuff.

Now, I'm sure some of them were getting money under the table beforehand, but it's still like, that just made it so much more complicated 'cause now we're putting the money and the expectations and all the stuff that has come with that in this day and age.

So, not making excuses for football coaches, but I just think it's a lot harder to exist in this world now 'cause everything else has been throughout the window. Especially with thoughts like these last topic here with Bruce Feldman, you asked the coaches

who should be the highest paid player in college football. All right, Jeremiah Smith got nine votes. Coach is raved about Jeremiah Smith. Except for one big 10 running backs coach who said,

"and you take him out of the game."

“I think he's closer to DK Metcalf than Jackson Smith”

in Jigba and quote, of what the fuck? - Yeah, look, I think physically I get the DK comparison 'cause you've got a hooking receiver who's got really good size and Jackson Smith and Jigba is really slick and smooth and they're different kinds of guys.

I think that was kind of like the, ooh, moment of it. I, there was two other coaches who were way more of who-sip and why in their explanations, why Jeremiah Smith actually ran away with that poll from the coaches, but there was one coach

and I was like, ooh, this is too good, not to use. And again, I'm with the other nine coaches. I think he is by far the best player in college football. And I think he has been a remark. Like, if you ask me, who's the best receiver

you've ever seen in college football, I don't have to think very hard about it. I mean, he basically looked like Andre Johnson when he got to Ohio State, the way Andre Johnson looked when he went to the Houston Texans.

One left Miami. Like, he just such a man among boys and I get it. If you think this is a way to slow him down because nobody's perfect.

“And I think this is that position coaches way of being like,”

yeah, you guys, you know, talk him up so much. And he's not, you know, he's not, like, infallible. Oh, right, well, you know, hopefully your team doesn't have to plan and do that. (laughs)

I just think after two years, like somebody would have figured out the cover two hat. Now, you could say, well, you can't play it cover two

because the talent that they're always gonna have

and all that kind of stuff, but I, I don't know, I thought that was, that was like a, there's a zag for everything. I'm convinced of that no matter what position we all kind of collectively agree on,

there's always someone that's like, actually, it's this. Hey, you spent years working on a show with Danny. You know, you know, there's a lot of zigzag. That looks like it. It, it wreaks like Stanford's Steve will surprise you

every now and then, like, he'll just out of nowhere go. I like Robbie Ashford better. And you're like, what? He never said that. I just like referencing Robbie Ashford,

not on a roster this year. He was a good football player back in the day. Yeah, I heard about it every fucking broadcast and all of the stops that he made that he also was an awesome baseball player.

The also part, I mean, honestly,

“there's somebody in his family, like, why does that guy still talk?”

I was just fascinated about his journey. Fascinated about his journey.

He would always come in and talk about his baseball career.

There you go. Check out this piece up on the athletic and more importantly, check out the annual Freaks List from our guide, Bruce Feldman. Thanks, man. Thanks, Ryan.

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at 835 PM Eastern Time, 535 PM Pacific. Okay, here's the thing. All of us are talking about the Rams for obvious reasons. They're loaded.

I'd say this is the first year long time

where I've kind of felt like man. He's still on with the Niners going to be able to hang. They're a little dinged up. They just lost a really good defensive player to injury on top of everything else.

But if there's a kind of a reminder of that Chana Hand McVay thing is that you kind of feel like that matchup, especially being on Netflix and being the only game and the extra anticipation and the fact that he's being playing somewhere else,

it just kind of feels like one of those games at the end of you. The Niners are still finding way to be in this, even if the course of 17 games, like I don't expect him to be in the same group whatsoever.

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the Los Angeles Rams versus the San Francisco 49ers, live only on Netflix Thursday, September 10th, at 835 PM Eastern in 535 PM Pacific. The NFL season starts tonight, it's 2026. Do you know your back of quarterback situation?

I do this segment every year or the years I feel like doing it. From whatever reason, it ends up being way more work than I think. I think the original version of this, I just read every team's depth chart at quarterback.

And I had some probably some singers in there a little bit. I don't know if I could do it. I wrote it all down. There's some math that I think is interesting on how this position is designed for the backups here.

This is quite the cell. This would be a tease. Hey, I did the segment wrote a bunch of stuff down. May read it to you.

I guess I could do that. I had some of this stuff just kind of surprised you. Because there's no way that you're keeping track of all of it. I know it's kind of the job, but I rarely am keeping track of all of this depth chart stuff.

But you run through it. All right, so Buffalo's good Kyle Allen. He's on a 16.

“I think he's in that chase Daniel, like good hang group of backups.”

19 career starts. My name is Gekal McCord. His third team, zero starts. Brady Cook who I forgot had actually started four games last year. I straight up forgot that.

That's in the Jets Dolphins turf over there on that one. New England's got Tommy DeVito. Remember when we were just talking about how he slept at home and shook and cold, that's not kind of stuff. Eight starts in his career.

I think up there are more in the rookie. We have 12 rookies on quarterback depth charts. 12 rookies, right? There are 16 quarterbacks on the depth charts

that have never had to start in the NFL.

So you've got 12 rookies, you've got 11 undrafted. And I'll go through where their draft position is. But 11 of these guys are totally undrafted. And that's of course some of the rookies there. Bear Morton's, one of them.

Cade club picks, another one. It looks like the Jets are like, we're going to have two guys. We don't want anyone to take any club nicks snaps. These are the depth charts as of this morning. There's some IR trickery that's going on as well.

But maybe it's a development. And it also hopefully be bad enough to grab one of the quarterbacks in a loaded class in 27. Baltimore, a good friend Tyler Huntley. He's in the mix and then Joey Fayano from UConn, another rookie.

Since then, a flaco leading the way, leading all back up quarterbacks with 211 career starts, 16 for him, Cleveland. Look out, back up quarterback buffet. We've got Deshan, which made all the sense in the world that you knew that we're going to just be like,

what if he has like a good month we can trade him for something, which is not going to happen. Or the owner being like, I paid this fucking guy so much money. He's starting. I don't care.

“But I think all the other three guys are going to start.”

Sanders was seven last year, Dylan Gabriel had six. And then, Tainland Green, I think all three will start game. So I think you're going to have four different quarterbacks start games for the Cleveland Browns this year. Mason Rudolph back in the mix, good hand club.

Two teams, 19 starts, will Howard, zero starts. And then, Aller, a rookie clearly knows starts as well. Houston, Davis Mills, 29 starts. And he's been an in-house guy, he's been there for a while. Graham merch, IR, zero starts.

Colts, Anthony Richardson, a first round pick. I'll get to that theme on the back up a little bit later. 15 starts for him, one for Riley Leonard. Jacksonville has Quinniers, three career starts, and they're going to Carter Bradley, who's on the IR,

and undrafted, and hasn't played in the game. Tainand see Mitch Tribiski on his 14 50 career starts. That's a good number for a backup. That's the other shocking thing about this exercise. How many teams back up, so just like, yeah,

these guys have never played either.

We're good, including a headliner team. Mitch 50 starts for him.

“He's only had seven starts in his last 50, not 50 years.”

That would be a long time playing the NFL. Seven starts, five years. Denver, Stitham, four starts, three starts for Sam, Elinger. Two teams, that's seven starts. Stitham's fascinating.

I had never liked him in college. I don't necessarily think he's that good, and some of the smartest football people love Jared Siddham. So I just assumed there's something that's happened in practices that I haven't, like, I'm wrong.

I guess I'm wrong, but smart teams seem to like him. How about smart teams, Kansas City Chiefs, Justin Fields, 14, 53 career starts, Nussmire in the mix. The fact that they took Nussmire, like, yeah, I'm right, and then the fact that they brought in fields is like,

maybe all the fields, that fields army has been strong, and they don't know. It's like where we're two, they're just on an island. They're like the worst been over, man. You know, like, no, it isn't because if he plays,

if he gets one start starts dicing up, everybody, look out. Vegas, well, Medo's is the back up behind cousins. This is a different kind of category altogether. A no conal, 17 starts. The chargers decide to go into the season with trade lands,

third team, former top pick, six starts.

I was shocked he had six starts. Dallas, Sam Howell, third team. Seems like people like Sam Howell, 18 starts. The giants, one of the OGs of the backup game now, the last six years, James Winston, 89 career starts.

That number's low. Like, I was the famous has only had 89 career starts. The probably's had six years of the last six years, and we had 19 starts. So there's your 89.

Andy Dalton, 169 starts. He's your backup in Philadelphia. 169, and they've got another guy with 10 and we keep with two starts there. Washington, Commander's Mariota, another OG, 82 starts, five teams.

Beijing, Chicago, four starts. Badgen, case kingdom, 66 starts, 18s.

“So some some start depth there behind Caleb.”

Detroit, Josh Dobbs, 15 starts, 17s. That's about two starts at team. Green Bay, Tyrod, in the mix, 62 starts.

That's a high number, but it's kind of like he always ends up starting,

wherever he goes. He'll probably start a couple of games this year for them. Minnesota, they have an interesting scenario here. Kyler first round pick, JJ McCarthy first round pick, Carson Wentz first round pick, 10 starts for JJ.

We've covered that six teams, 99 starts for Carson Wentz. What is Carson Wentz record over those 99 starts? You want to take a shot at it? 49, 49, and one. Atlanta, 10x12 starts. Cooper rushes 13, 16 starts for him.

Carolina, running it with Kenny P, 14 for him, 24 starts, hands king, rookie, no starts, New Orleans, the Rappler. 14 starts, Zach Wilson, his 13, 33 starts. Tampa Bay, Jalen Daniels rookie Kansas, wow.

“I was like, wow, that's what they're doing.”

I looked it up again this morning. I feel like I have to be wrong about that. The Rams behind staff are 0 starts for stats in Bennett. No games for Ty Simpson. Is that stupid?

All right, San Francisco, Mac Jones 13, 57 starts. And they get curves for up to their 0 games. And then Seattle, Drew Locke, Jalen Miller, 28 starts for Locke, 0 starts for Jalen Miller. So to look over this again, there are 10 teams that only have one back up, which is kind of that feels a little lower.

The other years that I've done this, but usually ends up kind of being like half the league, have that third guy then some guys try to figure out a way to keep the fourth guy on. Usually those teams aren't very good. But sometimes it seems to just like figure out a way to stash your guys that they love and like on the practice squad. But 10 teams was only one backup, which again feels like on the lower side,

but kind of in that middle have to league range because the third guy almost never plays.

The other development from this is how often, how many undrafted guys, it's like there's more undrafted guys than our backups than there are second rounders. There's two second round backups. There's 15 first round backups, five third round backups, five fourth round backups, three fifth round and then the six rounds where you go for backups, there's nine of them and then there's five seventh rounders.

So the the problem I've always had with the position in a lack of development is that there's just going to be like 12 to 13 rookies next year that are going to make rosters, week one, they're going to be backups on these depth charts and they're replacing a good chunk of guys that never ever played and you had no idea if they were ever any good. Now granted in practice, you probably get some read on it. If somebody's like a great prospect,

you don't want to cut them even if you haven't played in the games, but this is kind of the bigger point that I've made for years is that I think the NFL kind of eats their quarterbacks

because you just kind of you're on a roster, you never play, you never experience and then it's like

yeah, we're just going to replace you with the next guy that has no experience and then we're probably kind of him in three years too on top of everything else. The first round group, the 15 guys that are still backups, that would make sense because if your a quarterback is good enough to go in the first round, that means multiple teams probably like you and they'll blame the other coaching staff or the offensive system or it's like man, we had a high grade on that guy like let's

“bring him in. So I'm not saying that's why Mitch Tribisky is still in the league. Mitch is probably”

doing really good stuff like as a backup and they like him in the room, but you know Zach Wilson being on a roster when it's looked like an absolute disaster every time he's been back there, that's probably just because a few other teams would have had a high grades on him anyway. And when Mitch has 50 career starts, well, Mitch had 50 starts because he was better than some of these other guys that claimed out. No, he had 50 starts because he was like one with a number two pick.

So you had to make sure you're right, which is exactly what Chicago did with fields and why he had so many starts. It's why Zach Wilson has the 33 starts. It's like we're going to make sure that we actually know that we screwed this thing up here. And then you have, you know, the Winston's, the Mario does the wences of, well, they've been in it. They've done it for a while. But I guess there's, there's, there's part of me that surprised there aren't more from that kind of

group. Other former first rounders, 50, 60 starts, the case kingdom types or again case was not a first round pick. But if like, don't we want somebody and some of these teams just have no problem whatsoever going to the year being like, we have almost zero experience at the back of quarterback position. And if it ends up being mistaken, then it's super easy for us to jump on

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So we're taping this after we tap for use, by the way. Which I guess maybe it'll be in that order, but Kyle chatted up for use. He gave him like a little, he gave him like an inch of just like pitipsy and Kyle took a mile. I just said, yeah, you're right. Bruce took a mile. So we're sure about this. The pitipsy has the longest suspended group. There's a couple of the walls. There's a couple of qualifiers elevated walking bridge elevated. There's some shit.

That's like, you know, a little bit longer. You know, that's, you know, not raised. But yeah, raised we still got it. Like smaller cities can get a little Alabamaish with stuff that they claim. That's all. It's like one qualifier. Okay. Elevated suspended bridge. So if you can't maybe maybe I made up suspended. It's definitely elevated. It's definitely elevated. It's like over a mile. I don't really cross around the cross around jewel this way. If you're not going to have this shit

buttoned up. All right. We did this thing a while ago now. Yeah, I know. It's fine. Because I'm going to be right. So you did say whatever deer and trout. I do feel like Kyle's right. He's he's

“confident enough for, I be like, I think he's hurting support. And so thing now, you could say they've”

thrown in all these adjectives. And yeah, what exactly? What does that mean? The more adjectives, the less definitive it probably is. But I don't deny Kyle being correct here. They found a way to be correct. And we'll get longest elevated pedestrian bridge. So two qualifiers. Spans one point two eight miles. Two hundred twelve feet. Two hundred twelve feet above the water. You can do some damage if you jumped off that one. I Hartford may have to give up the Hartford

has it tagged. Never. But hipsy has it. Never give it that up. We got boardain too.

I can't believe how long I didn't know that. The entire time my daily commute there for a few years. One of my favorite albums. I don't know if you had no idea the Tom York was that depressed driving too hard for the inspired him to make an album cover. So is it? That'd be a billboard. Some people say hard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One of the greatest bands of all time drove through our city and they were like, this is so depressing. We should recognize it later on with an album cover.

We have some emails. We can't say that. Just saying. Yeah. We're talking about the graduation

And he's like, hey, do you not remember? Because I'm not going to say the guy's name. He's like, do you not remember someone's fake graduation story? And I was like, I do not feel free to spend as much time as you need on the story. So he reminded me because I forgot about this. There was a guy who

“is not part of our friend group. So that's why I wouldn't remember turning like that because it”

wasn't like a core guy. He was like an associate. Yeah. He was, I would say he was associated but disassociated in a way. He was the guys in college could all have their lanes of like, that's weird or you're learning about new guys different parts of the country. It's not just a prep school in the England. All of a sudden, you're like, what the hell's that guy? That guy just, what? Like, Dirks Bentley freaked us out. We all loved him. We're like, what the fuck is this guy's deal?

And honestly, he kind of worked out. Well, it didn't kind of work out. It absolutely worked out. But there's now something unique about him that we're like, a lot of this makes sense going back and looking at all, right? So shout out to him. But there was one guy who I would say eventually kind of like ran this race that nobody else was in and he was kind of just around. I don't know that that many people even liked him, but he was kind of associated with things. So then he was just

always around. So my roommate called me was like, that guy is parents sent him money for tuition,

room in board. After his first two years, you know, he was in the dorms and then the thing that UVM would be, you've got to, you've got to live off camera, get out of your junior and the dorms. I can forget about it. Like, hey, I'm trying to be a virgin, bringing back a bunch to class. Yeah. So this guy took his parents checks, both semesters, for two years, lived off. We're supposed to be his junior senior year, didn't enroll and dorsed the checks to himself and just lived

high off the hog for a couple years, run around and nobody like quite new, including his parents. So apparently graduation rolls around. This is another thing that blew my mind. Like one of my roommates freshman year where you get started, he's like, hey, did your parents make reservations for graduation weekend four years from now? What? We're going to hold out until we get some good news. Like, people are doing that. It wasn't even specific to me. I was just kind of like, yeah, that's

insane. And it is an insane. It's smart. And, you know, as soon as your kid gets accepted and

“you're sending the first deposit check, you should probably do that. So put the pressure on.”

Like, hey, just so you know, that's a non-refundable deposit on that reservation four years from now. Really, so credit for me every year, buddy. Need you to get them all. This guy was just operating as a civilian. Yeah, living on scholarship for his parents. With other students living off of his parents checks. And if he was out of state back then, which I'm pretty sure he was, you're talking like 10 grand

in September, 10 grand again in February. And I think he was even working because I mean, he wasn't doing anything else. He was like, we're working a little bit part time. And so then four years later, or excuse me two years after, because I'm sure like when it's through the dorms, it's a little easier to keep track of. But like, some parents are wild with this stuff, where I'm sure some people listening, like, there's complete, independent, you go to college,

it's complete independence. Meanwhile, my father would have been like, where are your bills? What's

going on? Just because I was obviously the first two. And there was going to be no cutting any corners

“whatsoever. I think I applied for like a cash advance student loan or something and he got flagged”

on it. He was like, absolutely not. I was like, I'm fucking broke. This is awful. So, really, you seem to want my first question is, these were just given blank checks to be like, hey, this is for college. Like, that's not how it works for me. I don't know if it's how we're for you, Kyle. Like, you didn't just, you didn't just like, no, there was no money in my hands that didn't have to be. That's for sure. Yeah. Like, you're with you. But I would say that you buy

your books. Some of my money scores that you were the hero where I had gone to school, there were people that actually did have this kind of like, whether they came from money or something that was like, hey, this is you having to have responsibility, you're on top of you. You're going to pay a reward decision ever. So, the parents have no idea. It's coming up on graduation weekend. He hasn't been in classes in two years. So, guess who's not going to get his

name announced this guy? He then buys a cap and gown leading up. He's telling the other dudes, like, it's out. I've been in class two years. You know, like, I'm sure his roommates finally figured it out. No, like, man, you get a light schedule this semester. So, they're like, what are you going to do? He's like, I can't tell him. I basically stole a money from

him for two years. I'm a million credit shy. Like, there's nothing even close. I shouldn't even

be here. It's been a good hang. I've had fun. I've enjoyed my time. But I can't tell him. So, I guess what he did was he clearly went out the night before graduation. He bought his cap and gown. His mother and father were there dressed up. And he had a last name where he could play it where it's like around the, around the deezries I'm out here. And he just went to him and fakes like, I'm so sick. I'm so sick. I have to go to the hospital. Like, some things are on

bend, be like, we're here. So he had planned the whole thing out apparently. And they all left

“because his name wasn't going to be called. And that's how he tricked his parents.”

That's worse than our guy yesterday lying about being a demon basketball player. Yeah. Yeah, cause now somebody's hurt. I think there's money on the desk. I don't know. It is a pretty smart way to get out of it though for me and honest. I now understand how this guy kind of, is he like a con artist? Like, what do we know what this guy's doing today? I know. I have no idea. Is he just a demon people online? I could see that. Yeah. He was older than me. And as soon as he was out of the

mix, there was a zero chance I was ever ever running into a no one in our core group, extended group, satellite group. There was no one that was going to have any interactions with him whatsoever, because the guy that called me was like, how did you remember this thing? It was like, because of this one specific reason. I was like, oh, that's right. The fake sick thing works more often than you think. You know, like, people will just be like, oh, shit. Are you sick? I

guess we got to go. You know, I think that's wrong. If you're the dad, you go. All right. Well, I'd like to see the official document. Yeah. I'd ask a few questions. That would just be like, hey, I guess we're good now. Man, got out of my job. Although this guy clearly would lie in his resume that he graduated, if he was capable of doing any of these things, but you know, you can't get a dad, the market just thin. I got out of the night or dash situation. The

“one time I ever did it and it failed. So I and I'll tell you honestly, I would never do it again,”

but I was going to be the one guy. It was three, three guys, me included out of Chinese buffet. And one guy was like, I'm out of here. I was like, oh, come on, man, me and him got to split it. And then he goes, and I'm like, well, I definitely don't have three full buffet monies. You know what I mean? So then I go out the same door. It turns out it's like a locked alley with no roof just between two buildings and like this Plaza and that movie's a lot. The door is locked. These guys are freaking

out. And I guess a silent alarm went off. Next day, I know there's a there's a woman screaming, we're all stuck in here. My buddy just fixed throwing up immediately. I'm like, this guy's sick. We're trying to go to the bathroom. We're locked in the alley. What the hell's going on? And she like didn't want to believe us, but she kind of was just like the bathrooms over there and we'd paid or whatever, but like the fake sick thing. I mean, that could have been cops too.

Yeah. Great instincts on hand to just double how do you think throwing up? Produce any volume to convince someone else who was throwing up. Oh, fake throwing up. I don't know. Might be a language barrier thing that she was just like, all right, you guys aren't leaving, but you know, I don't know,

but whenever I was a close one, never wanted to do it. Certainly would never do it again after that.

You ended up paying yourself. Yes, we all ended up paying. Then you actually didn't want to do it. I didn't want to do it, but I would leave you. But at this time, it feels like my back's against the wall. I don't got $3, $22, buffet chargers or whatever. It was back in the day. You know, we didn't all time move. They came over the check and go, the other two guys dying in dash. I'm against it. I'm going to pay my third. I can pay mine. And then they go, wait a minute. That's the hack.

Yeah. Yeah. Three for one special. She wants 66% off. I died. Yeah. All right. Let's read some emails here.

“All right. So this guy, I don't really know what he did here. And that's why I actually”

forwarded this email to Kyle and Steve, which doesn't happen. I know very little. It's a Kyle. Well, Kyle sorts them and then I, if I feel like it's relevant, because this guy included some pictures and also some text message. So I think we already know what this guy was trying to do because I don't really understand the email. Six one, one, 85, Jim Stas, three, 15 bench, two, 75 squat, top heavy, in a 349 marathon, basketball comp would be Jaylin Brown if you forgot how to shoot.

Good slash or passer, but can't use my left hand to save my life. I write in today because I have a problem over the last eight days. I've MCed two weddings. Super MC over here. They both went well

enough that numerous people left the event saying they'd never seen someone perform like that.

It's got it. It's usually quite critical of me. Even said, I gave a solid A minus. It's a great day. I kind of love that. Yeah. Let's just dig it in a bat for a second. Just personal nemesis, you crush it, A is across the board. He throws a little minus in there to remind you that I don't like you. But he wants to still be taken seriously as an analyst. So he has to give you the edge. Yeah, nice. Yeah, I feel like when I first started like ESPN, first few years in a buddy from

college who I wouldn't call as best friends. I thought we were maybe a little bit closer, but there's also some nemesis moments in there as well. And he was like a couple beers in, pulls me aside because I got to say, hate to say it, but you're really good at this. I hate to say thanks. Thanks. You hate saying it. All right. Anyway, A minus guy checking in. My issue is now multiple people have asked me about MCing their weddings,

I definitely was way drunker than I'd be if I wasn't working. If I say no,

I don't even imagine getting an invite to these weddings, which I do enjoy not to mention my girlfriend wasn't invited to either wedding, which would have been nice to have support for when you're doing this sort of stressful role. Do I need to agree to these opportunities, but since my girlfriend gets an invite, do I say no, just miss out on the wedding fund? Do I purposely bomb my next one? So people quit asking, but I still get to go. All thoughts are appreciated photos below

and some messages I got from my work as well as a pick of me and my girlfriend. So this guy sends a picture of he and his girlfriend on paddle boards and she's hot and this guy's like Brad Pitt Fight Club ripped. I say this, he just respectfully, he looks like if Julien

Adam and like was looks maxing. If he's taking that little hammer, it's right. Yeah, I guess.

Yeah. Anyway, you might even be taller. So like this is not an knock on jewelry. Definitely looks taller, just sitting down. Yeah. They wouldn't call him the flag scroll. They'd find another name for. No, but I don't, I don't really know, okay. So you're awesome at MCing. What next? What do we need to do? And then, hey, here's me completely ripped up next to my hot girlfriend

“on paddle board. I don't really understand the picture, man. Swagger invited, you know?”

Are you guys with me here? Oh, I am. I totally am. Yeah. Maybe it was just a creative, you know, sometimes emails with attachment stand out. You know, maybe it's just a way of getting your resume in the door, you know? I mean, I'll make that happen growing right here. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. There's a call, there's, you know, it's call back to the mention in the email. Maybe it's just a route, a partner in a relationship and he's like, you know, what is right?

All right. So we're not going to use this on the show, but would you, if I sent this picture to you randomly or not, you're not going to get a start typing now. I just sent a picture of myself showing off the sharp gills to serruti and Kyle. Is this, is this in response to the racist video? Are you feeling insecure? I didn't look at one comment on the racist video. What's the issue? No, it was just, you know, it was, you know, it was a lot of the facial

hair was aggressive, you know? People think I'm fat. I'm convinced there's a lot of people out there that want to believe that I'm fat and it's okay because no matter what, if I'm 175, there's a double chin. You think? And there's that road picture going around. Yeah, just looked like a fucking slob in it and I'm not photogenic. I completely understand. And it's, I've accepted it. So I don't really, but the thing that I'm fat when I just sent you the content I sent you, like our email,

it just did. I got a record without Johnny in there. I think you just, I think we should make this public. I don't know why. No, I don't know why. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, he's right. Our chat has been on fire lately. And this is, this is, this is the most on start put shit in the street,

“you know? That's how we're not putting this. We're not putting this one out there. Yeah,”

we're not putting this one out there. Hey, you look good. I will say you did mention to me what a couple days ago, you're like the leanest you've ever been. I was. I got back. I don't know what the hell is going on. There were some check-ins on the scale where I'm like, what is fucking happening to you right now? And travel and stuff, you know? Yeah, but I hadn't really travels in a few weeks and then something got back. I got back. Like, I don't know if it was, whatever. It was a very weird

light fluctuation. But that's it, like, 224, that picture. So we're back. And we had a really learn. Listen. All right. I don't know what to do with this email is my point. Like, what do you really want, man? I think you wanted to see us how good you look to be, to be totally honest. And you do look fucking awesome. So there you go. A plus. No, I'm not going to take the cynical route here. I think this is a normalized note. This is like right in the crosshairs first of all.

A, it must be awesome to do this at a wedding. Have like a guy's grandma. Be like, you were

amazing. You know what I mean? Like, that must be awesome to just like the, the receiving line of

people when you bring the house down. And, you know, now the party starts. They're married. Now everyone gets to like go do the thing. And everyone's coming up to you, especially like sweet older people.

“That's got to be amazing. Congratulations for that. The other thing is I think what people want you”

to, to MC their wedding is because you know them. Because they don't want like, you know, you know, to go through somebody's priest that doesn't know the other one or however they pick these things, they feel like we're trending towards like, let's get a friend of ours to do this. Right? That's probably not the least. Because I don't think like, we didn't the DJ just do that for the most part. Like, that's like right. Well, then what he's saying MC, is he talking about like,

the person who stands up there and marries them? That's not what I thought. I thought it was a guy who's like, is just getting people organized and called, you know, hey, all right, now it's time for the father-daughter dance and, you know, then you're just Kate cutting like he just kind of keeps things

what I thought. Because that the officiant is the person who marries you. Those two are different jobs.

“I don't think that's what he's talking about. Gang. I mean, it just sounds like this guy is good at it.”

He seems to like to go to work. You think I'm right, Ryan. But how many people have done people in the matter of eight days be like, hey, do you want to do the take this job off my DJ's hands? Unless people are doing DJ's and they're just going Spotify playlists and it's like this will work. No, I don't know. I don't know. No, I think you're right, Sirudi. But I, to Kyle's point, like I think it's really easy. I mean, if you're not getting invited to, like, let's put it this way in the way he explained it.

He crushes other people now want him to MC their weddings that he wasn't originally invited to. Without payment, just so I can play to fish and stake and like, that'll do it. So I could say if you like the wedding fun, okay, fine. But I've got to bring my girlfriend.

I have to bring my girlfriend to the wedding, but they're like, well, that doesn't work because you're an employee.

We were really going to invite you to any way. So then why do you actually want to be there? Unless you're thinking like long term, this is something you want to do. Maybe you're just in natural. Maybe you're just so good at this. You're Andy Cohen. And you can just be like,

“here's the deal. But he was a blast at the wedding, right? Like, that's how it works.”

Yeah, but now it seems like the word is out and he's just that good. If it doesn't seem like he's passionate about it either. Yeah, I think it's one of the things that maybe good at, but isn't like really. He's thinking of bombing. He's going to tank. If yours is good though, a public speaking to and just being the man and you're that good looking. Like, it feels like there's a hard calling for you. But you need to be doing.

Maybe you go looking. You need to. Yeah, you need to. Yeah, you need to office too. I'm not saying moved. I'll leave the bottle in your time. Or that. Yeah, but like you could at least get some jobs as an extra. And how I would it feels like like, I think. I think this is a polite no with a light explanation. Like, you know what, I really feel like this takes me out of the wedding. I really love to just be here and support you guys and have like,

I think that it's a it's a respectful no with a small, small explanation why two words or two sentences max, you know. And then if you're like, really not want you here, then fucking good. Yeah, and that'd be good. It's an awesome conversation, but you're already going without your girlfriend. You're already leaving her for multiple weekends in a row. It sounds like so come on. It is funny. It's definitely way drunker than if I wasn't working. Dude, one for courage, one for fun.

You know what I mean? Like, it's out of hands. So have as a me when we go out stage. Congrats on the hottest stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Great. That's buddy. Great. Great numbers too. All right, let's see here. Six one, 190, 31 years old, Ben's press 33, 35, player comp Ben Simmons with a better attitude, but inferior angle craft. My left jumper looks pretty good in the driveway too. Shoutouts and just, you know, face the franchise Ben Simmons segment

of Kings this time. It's personal. Writing in without necessarily an interest in changing anything in my life, but gradually feeling things sliding by long one here too. So I appreciate the patience backstroke group in a mid-sized mid-western city playing all kinds of sports eventually based on college, after college, I joined sort of Robbie Ashford. After college, I joined the military and moved across the country a few times, spent time in some really fun

cities having a great experience for getting out to take a corporate job in a great company. Career's going great, promoting quickly and because of this trajectory, I won't be moving anywhere soon. Here's the catch though. I'd like to start a family do the old domestic thing. After spending three years here dating and meeting people and struggling, defining someone I see myself marrying and getting dates is not the issue, especially with those bench numbers and you play

some college ball. It's just not typically gone anywhere. I'm far enough away from any of my friends in college or high school that the friend of a friend is unrealistic. Dating apps aren't my thing and work is also unlikely to produce someone because I personally would like to dodge shooting where I eat. Everything about my work in fun life here is great. I'm just in a tough

“environment for dating. Is a question. Am I missing out on the easy win for a guy like me?”

Am I just warped by the typical Midwestern marriage timeline? Maybe. I don't know. I also just think

like long term, like I've talked about it far too many times, but I always thought like the Midwestern

girl thing. It just was, I personally have had much easier times with anyone that had spent, like that's from the Midwest. Although actually Midwestern girls are more, what are you saying? Less friction. There's less maintenance. Yeah. Although I could argue that one drags down the overall score so bad that maybe that the numbers don't back that up anymore. That lies or for, but yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, we'll drop the lowest quiz score.

Side note of big cat knows anyone in there early 30s from college stomping grounds. My number is below. Okay. We'll forward this to big cat. So I've counted. Yeah, yeah, I'll do that. I'll try to

couple of weeks ago, wow. So this guy's really been thinking about it. And X reached out to me. Think similar player comp to last week's life advice with the alcohol issues. We were together back when I was in the military, we were living together with the intent to get married. She was everything I wanted. Similar family goals, former college athlete, really fun girl to be around. But because of her alcohol abuse, things went sideways. She's cleaned up a lot of things from

what I, from what took us off the rails, running Marathons now, working as a fitness instructor, going back down her career path of her degree, seems to have figured at all out since things went off the rails. She even acknowledges all the things that she did. And what's caused? And my crazy for considering her letting her come visit, I'd start out as just a weekend of her doing the traveling, but it's hard to say I'd stop at that, not necessarily a concise question, but interested

in feedback from the panel, PS need more people to talk about the Pacers and Halbert returning in 26 that Brunson ship is Mickey Mouse without the boogie man in his way. I'm, let's not go that far. They'd be dispersed. But yeah, Pacers in the mix as well. So, I mean, this is a pretty common thing. So why don't you guys go? Because I, I'd say you sound like you're on the edge of desperate and this girl's got some good signs, not a lot of red flags. I would say absolutely do this.

Even if it is a slump buster, whatever you want to call it, like definitely do you say in that.

I, yeah, I don't think say. I'm a huge believer in a second game. I played all of it.

“I'm a huge believer in a second chance for obvious reasons. So, I think, I think definitely”

explore that one. Definitely explore that one. Yeah, I'll see you down side. I guess, unless you guys disagree, like, what if, if it doesn't work out and you're not, you're not that close to her. So, like, you could just kind of like lean off it a little bit and it just flames out and that's fine. But, but, but if you did use to, if you loved her and you have the same values and it was a little one thing that was the hang-up, she has then since fixed your both singles, she's clearly

interested in you if she's going to travel to see you. I don't really see the problem here. You seem lonely. And, yeah, again, if it, even if it goes nowhere, it's not really the end of the world. It's worth trying out. And, you know, if it ends up being a thing, then yeah, you got something to get some decisions to make in the future. By the way, my desperate comment wasn't about desperate for a date. Like, he's got, he's got all these things in his head. Like, I don't even

have anyone in line to maybe take the next step with this one. You got some chemistry in it and a pass with. So, maybe I would say this would, this would be a kind of a bummer. I don't know if it is or not the case for him with, like, you've got, like, the moms and the grandma's being like, well, what's going on here? You know, if you got your own timeline in your head that you want to keep, but if you got the, you know, the matriarchs in your, you know, in your life being like,

what's going on? You haven't brought anybody home to Thanksgiving in like three years. How, you know, where am I going to get my grandchildren from? Like, that would, that's, like, way worse.

“That maybe I think of it. That anything of a different thing, though, I would,”

do you, do you soft launch this to, like, close family and friends that you trust who obviously knew her or just say, hey, like, thinking about doing this? And if they're just like, dude,

absolutely not, you know, and it's, yeah, they all hate her and they never told you and they're just

great. We never have to deal with her again, but maybe, maybe that tells you something, um, but I don't know if, if, if she was like, she's, it sounds like she's kind of the one that got away a little bit, like, would you have broken up if it wasn't for that? You know, you're obviously way younger. Um, I, I just don't see it downside here at time, right? Because it would be one thing if you live in this, like, in the same town, and you had to see her all the time after this

didn't work out again, but you, you don't, you actually have this incredible buffer if it doesn't have, if it doesn't work. I'm with you, sweetie. I don't really see any downside to this. I mean, the only downside would be she comes visit you and up totally falling for all over again. And then she's like, I don't like the new you. And then you were like, oh, cool. I just signed up to get them down about something that I didn't expect. So that's the only downside. It doesn't sound like that's

going to happen whatsoever. I'm, everything you're saying, this does not sound like, hey, I'm 31

I'm from the Midwest, where are my kids? Uh, I never had to deal with that. I would have been just

great, I'd tell my grandmother's to be like, what, but I'd never, no one ever was put in the pressure on your boy. Yeah, moms, no one cared. No one was like, what's going on with you? So it had it happened. I think I would have been good at deflecting that, but that's not even the issue here with the whole thing. So I guess, you know, I understand what you mean by the desperation thing. I wanted to push back in the slump bluster a little bit again because he played college ball.

Also, I, I wasn't, I still have the pickipsy walking bridge stats up. So I, the first three sentences of the email, I just was kind of out of it because I was looking at more of this, I was going to close it out right now. So I just want to make sure I didn't miss a critical part of the videos of other apartments again. Sorry. I love it, but this Ryan thinks, sounds like Ryan thinks that if you played college force, like you are just swimming in it, left and right though. I don't know

that that's necessarily. Oh, how about that D1 guy? You didn't even play. He's got a couple of kids. He's

“hosting barbecues. Guys, life is awesome. Yeah, rest of your life for just like I played college”

YouTube. So like, all right, when do you want to go out? I gave a speech to a team once the college team. And I was like, there's nothing worse than when you play. And some people are like, did you

rest of your lives, you'll be able to say your card carry. Yeah, it's awesome. They were like, hey, this

“is a practice. All right, I think it's a absolute slam dunk. Yes, try it back on for a bit, spin around.”

See how it feels. How look goodness. You know, or you have confirmation of actually, I never want to do that

again. And there you go, closure or an opening. Thanks Tom. Thanks to Kevin. Thanks sir. Thanks

“to Kyle. Full episodes available on Netflix, The Rhine Resilio show are still sports.”

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