The Glucose Goddess Jessie Inchauspé On The Truth About Blood Sugar, Energy, & Managing Cravings

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Get ready for the major illness. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential. Him and her. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Skinny Confidential Him and her show. Today we have Jessie and Shopeh who is also known as the glucose goddess on this podcast.

She is a much requested, long-awaited guest. We've wanted to speak to Jessie for a long time. For those of you that are unfamiliar with Jessie, she is a French biochemist, founder, and New York Times, and international bestselling author. She has devoted her career to translating cutting-edge science into easy tips to help people improve their physical and mental health through her book's glucose revolution and the glucose goddess method and has reshaped the global

conversation around blood sugar. Today we're going deep with Jessie talking all about the groundbreaking guide to glucose, science back hacks for empowering nutrition at every stage of life, and the importance of glucose and how it could be harming you. We also talk about pregnancy, nutrition, and breaking stigmas around food and how to nourish our bodies. Again, this episode has been long requested, long awaited guests. I'm glad we did it because we

got to sit down with Jessie in our studio here in Austin, Texas and we had such a great time. With that, Jessie, welcome with a skinny cup of natural, him and her show. When you come from Paris to the United States for a month, what happens to your diet here? I'm curious. I spend a lot more money to eat healthy. Do you see what I mean? Like in France, it's cheap to eat healthy? Yeah. Just go to the grocery store and you buy vegetables every

day for your dinner, you buy fresh meat, fresh stuff. And here it's a trek. I have to go to the whole food, et cetera, to get the nice produce, and also things are way more expensive here.

“So I have to think about it more. So you have to almost have a strategy on how you eat”

here. Whereas Paris, it seems like it's just kind of second nature. Yes, and the restaurants and

France, most bases have very healthy options. You'll find really good salads, nice meat, nice fish, omelette, it's just kind of that's the baseline menu at any corner restaurant in Paris. Here it's very different. So I have to have a strategy so that I don't feel like crap because usually when I come here, it's to work. So I have to make sure also, you know, my glucose is steady, I feel good. So it's a calculation. I make sure that the place I'm staying is not too far from

like, well in LA, it's like airworn or whole foods. Yeah. Yeah. It LA, you have a lot of options, but it is expensive. It's very expensive. Yeah. And the main difference is in France, you go to the butcher, the fish guy, the produce people, and you go there every day, and you're back from work. You stop by because there's one of these places, you know, next to every single home, and you buy the food for dinner every day. So you buy a little bit of food every day. Here you do big batches

of supermarket grocery shopping. Different vibe. Oh, I love Paris vibes. How hang out? I, I well, don't worry, Michael. What would love a trip for us? You have been doing this for a long time.

We have been harassed by the audience to get you on the show. So it's really cool to finally

be doing this out of all of the years that you've done what you do. What has been the craziest finding that blew your mind? In the glucose world, the craziest finding for me was when I saw the studies that said that the order you eat your food in has an impact on the blood sugar response of that meal. So if you eat your veggies, then proteins and fats, then starches, you get a much smaller glucose spike than if you eat the carbs first. God damn, and I'm doing it wrong. What are

eating first? Bread carbs. I know you're not going to do that. Well, start with the veggies. Okay. Okay, I, I actually, I'm doing protein first normally, but I just had a plate before I saw you and there were sweet potatoes and I had a couple bites of that first. Okay, I forgive you.

“Okay, so you should do that for given. The vegetables, the protein, and then the carbs. Exactly.”

Because when you have the veggies first, that's to keep veggies first. I need to make it like a

t-shirt that says that. The veggies contain fiber, and so they create the sort of protective mesh in your intestine that slows down the arrival of the carbs and your bloodstream afterwards. So that was the biggest discovery for me. It's like the order matters. And now I'm in a sort of second chapter of research that has to do with pregnancy. So I just had my baby boy six months ago. And congratulations. Thank you. I know you guys have beautiful kids. So congrats to you as well. I

also learned in that domain of science that DNA is one thing, but what you eat during pregnancy changes what kind of baby you give birth to, essentially. Like your baby's body and brain is shaped by your pregnancy diet. Same DNA, but two different diets will give birth to two different babies. That was mind-blowing. When you say two different babies, give us baby A and baby B. Okay, so baby A is a baby who had a lot of colon, which is a nutrient found in eggs and meat and fish.

So that's something found in fish and that a lot of people supplement with. So that means his brain

“developed with all of the nutrients that he wanted. So neurons grew as much as they wanted.”

Number of brain cells grew as much as they wanted. And we can see a measurable difference in things like reaction time and coordination IQ is a toddler. Baby A also did not have too much sugar from his mom during pregnancy, which means his metabolism was not vulnerable to getting diabetes. Later in life. Baby B didn't have any colon, didn't have any omega threes, had a mom who ate 50 cookies every single day. And the mom didn't know that she should not be doing this. And this

baby will be more vulnerable to getting types of diabetes later in life. And we'll have a brain who will have developed in a slightly more suboptimal situation. So your diet's during pregnancy sort of cook creates your baby's setup, body and brain setup. And that's topic of my new book. It makes a lot of sense though when you think about it, right? If you're giving it the nutritional building blocks to do certain things the same things that we as adults are eating for and supplementing

for. I would make sense that the baby would come out that way. Absolutely. And the

“nimes of pregnancy are very important. Very critical moment. And a lot of moms are told, oh don't”

worry about it. Your baby will get what he needs from you or we're often compared to ovens. You know, a bun in the oven is something you hear, but we're not ovens, but we eat matters

for a child. It matters to his development. And the baby will not always get everything that he needs.

He'll get what the mom gives him. And this is very important information that I want to make for people to learn about. How has that information been received when you share it? I imagine this subject in particular is very touchy. Obviously people care very much about their children. And birth and all of us are especially as parents. Is it been positively negatively controversial? Well, the stuff I share in this book is not actually new. These are a big

World Health Organization guidelines, American Association of Pediatrics, guidelines. I think these are things that we've known for a long time. But for some reason, they haven't been

“properly communicated to moms. So what I'm trying to do is just bring all this info in these”

guidelines and put light on them, shed light on them so that moms have access. So the reactions you know range from empowerment, excitement to feeling like, oh my god, but I already had my kids. Is it too late for me feeling guilty? So it's a complicated thing to navigate. Because pregnancy comes with pressure, like you're building a human being, right? And so it's complicated to know what to do with that pressure. But in this book, I hope I give moms to be for simple tips to

help navigate that pressure in a simpler way. The word glucose to me is overwhelming. Okay, because I'm packet. Yeah, I feel like I need to start with that and unpack it as a kindergartener. I don't know if it's because I'm scared of blood. You're scared of blood. Yeah, or needles, but that word, like, I don't really know what it means when someone says to spike your glucose. Okay, that's talk about it. Yeah, what does it explain that? Okay, so glucose is your body's energy. So right now,

as we're talking, all of our brains are using glucose to think. Our hearts are using glucose to pump. If you move your hands, your hand muscles are using glucose to move. So it's the energy your body uses to do everything. Okay? And how do you give your body this energy by eating foods that

contain it? So carbs basically contain glucose. And you have two categories, starches. So that's bread,

pasta, rice, potatoes, those contain glucose. And then sugars. So anything sweet from an apple to a chocolate ice cream also contain glucose. So when you eat either starches or sugars, the glucose molecules go from the food to your stomach to your, I won't say it. Let's drink. Yeah, do you know? And that's where the glucose gets brought to all of your cells. So to give you energy. So why is everyone wearing these glucose monitors? Like, what is that accomplished? Because

some glucose is good, but if you give your body too much glucose, problems start happening. It's like if you have a plant, you know to give it some water, but too much water and the plant drowns, right? Human body is the same. Some glucose is fantastic, too much is not good. So I'm wearing mine also because my god, I'm not sorry, sorry, sorry. Anyone talks to me with a glucose monitor. I might have not. You think it's like this deep needle. I don't know. It's just

something about having a needle in your body. I'll faint. I don't know. I'm not wearing one, don't worry. Okay, but you know, but so in an extreme example of too much glucose could be like diabetes, correct? Exactly. So like if you go, that's like the extreme. That's the extreme. Yes. So why is too much glucose bad? Because when you have a lot of glucose in your body at once, inflammation increases. An inflammation is not good. An inflammation is one of the main killers of our

lifetime. So inflammation increases and also your body tries to get rid of this excess glucose, so it puts it into your fat cells. And that's one of the ways that we gain fat on our body.

consistently, or if they struggle with inflammation, it's maybe too much glucose that they're

“overdoing it. And then that is in and how do you spike the glucose? Is that bad diet too much sugar?”

It's by eating too many carbs and sugars at once. So if you have a meal that's bread, then spaghetti, then more bread, then chocolate, then a cookie, then ice cream. That's 100% carbs. It's all glucose. So you're going to get a big glucose spike. A spike just means like a rapid arrival of glucose in your bloodstream. And that spike carries the consequences I just mentioned. The inflammation, the way gain, etc. So why do we want to prevent the spiking? Because we want to

prevent the negative consequences in our body. And also, lots of glucose makes this age faster. So with every glucose spike, you're aging faster. So I manage and I look at my glucose levels because even though I know a lot about what I need to do to keep it steady, things happen. Like I'm in Austin today, so I'm going to eat something at the airport. I want to have a look at what's going on in my body so I can learn. And so I can adapt. So for example, if I ate something

that would spike me, I'd be like, oh, I might just go for a walk before I come into this podcast. I get my glucose levels back down. And I like getting the real-time insight to the goal.

Always have it on pretty much. I would say no, like maybe 70% of the time.

So the monitor basically informs you instantly. Exactly. When you make choices with food or behavior, whatever. On my phone, I get 24/7, my levels of glucose in my body. So what are some of the more, I guess, I'm kind of curious about this from myself.

“You should try for TV viewers. If he does the glucose monitor,”

I'll go see the world. I'm doing it. I'm going to go sleep somewhere else. I can't do it. So if I said, right here. No, not at all. If I said, it's not it. It's like a little Velcro patch almost kind of. Yeah. So if I said, Jesse, it reminds me of the castor oil thing that you put on your belly button every night. But if I, if I were to give you, like, and say, okay, eat this small bag of gummy bears right now.

That would spike your glucose, right? Probably. Yeah. Right. I mean, depending how small or big it is, because it's like a normal size, it goes out back. It would spike. I would say Michael have some almonds at the same time, so he that you balance the blood sugar spike. Because we just talked about the spike. But what comes after the spike, the crash and the crash, the bigger the spike, the bigger the crash,

and crash, leads to cravings fatigue and hunger. So you want to avoid the spikes, because you want to reduce inflammation and aging, and you want to avoid the crashes, because you don't want to feel tired. So when somebody is biking, and all of a sudden you get that craving for junk food, that is likely you're experiencing in your body at glucose crash. Very likely. Yeah. If you're going to have a glass of wine and you're in Paris,

what are you having to balance that out protein before? Okay. Yeah. Never on an empty stomach,

protein or some nuts, little olives, that they usually give you when you have a glass of wine. So alcohol in an empty stomach is going to be worse for your body than alcohol after food. But here's the cool thing. Wine does not spike your glucose levels. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So alcohol does not. What does spike your glucose levels is sugar. That's added to a cocktail. So for example, a mosquito, a cousin, Paula, etc. That have sugar in them. That'll spike you.

So if you just have a glass of wine, it doesn't spike? No. But it doesn't mean that the glass of wine is good for you. Glucose is not everything. You can eat something that doesn't spike you. That's still not a very good for you. Because glucose is just one aspect of health. What are some of the, in your findings? What are some of the things that spike our glucose in a negative way, the most? Any fruit-based, fruit-based, healthy thing? Like fruit-based,

smoothly. 100% fruit smoothie or granola with a healthy honey or healthy coconut sugar. All of these things that are actually really sweet, they're just sugar. It's not because something comes from fruit or something is with unrefined coconut sugar that is better for you. It's still sugar, it'll spike you. Are there times in this may sound like a serious question that you do want to spike your glucose? Maybe before a workout or something or no.

“So workouts can spike your glucose. So there's something you have to know is that you eat glucose,”

but your body can also make some from the inside if you need more for your muscles. So when you exercise intensely, sometimes your liver will be like, "Uh oh, we need more glucose for our muscles." And we'll just release a bunch of glucose into your bloodstream. You'll see a spike, but it doesn't come from food. It comes from the exercise. In this case, the spike is not actually harmful. You want that spike for the muscles around.

No, this is fairly like if you feel properly before a workout, you're probably not going to get this spike from your liver. How would you fuel before a workout knowing everything you know about glucose? I would do a combo of protein and some whole fruit. So glucose is helpful for your muscles to be able to do what they need to do. So if you have some glucose in your system, you'll be able to do more explosive work. So, you know, I lift weights and for weight lifting, it's nice to have some of

that explosive thing. I'm not going to go for a two hour long slow bike ride. I like to do kind of hit intensity stuff. So I would do peanut butter and banana, classic. Super good, very nice. There's

So you get a nice steady curve and your body will be filled with the sugar.

“Sandy, our trainer said that we should eat something very similar to that. She said two eggs”

or three. I do four eggs before. Okay, but sometimes like eating eggs in the morning right away is like oh, yeah. But she said two eggs if you can only stomach two and a half of a banana. Yeah, sounds great. She said she likes that for us before we left. That's really interesting. I didn't know that it had to do with glucose. You said your weight left have you or have you done any like I'm not like a professional way this. Okay, but but you say it's a no doubty that you are. Absolutely.

And have you done any studies on showing what a lot of cardio does to glucose levels? Oh, they're not. What do you mean? Like do they reduce glucose levels or does it? Or does it? So very effective thing like if you see a spike in your body and effective thing would be to just go for a long walk or do a cardio because that's going to use up the sugar in your bloodstream. Do glucose in your bloodstream. You seem like you like a long walk for managing. I've heard you say that.

I'm French. No, we like walking. I can't walk anywhere here. You ought to take cars all the time. What's up with that? Where are you most of the time? Like we did in the state. Yeah. Yeah, Ellie is not really a walking place. No. Go to sunlight. Okay. And go walk around the lake.

“Ellie is really like a plant like you kind of like are in the area and you have to drive there. New York's”

better for walker. Yes. Right. Love New York. Yeah. So when you think of your perfect glucose dinner, that's really amazing. Okay. And what if the audience is listening? What would you tell them to make? So my brain goes to pasta because I love pasta. Yeah. If I were to make a dinner that contains pasta, it is good for my glucose levels. I would make a veggie starter. So I'd make like some nice roasted broccoli with like tahini, a bit of chili, something like that as a starter

to get the fiber to protect me from the spike. Then I'd do a protein. So I don't know like a nice piece of turkey or beef or anything. And then I'll make a nice big plate of spaghetti and with a ton of parmesan and olive oil and sea salt. Sounds good. And then for desserts. I mean,

fruit is always a very good option if you want something sweet but not too spiking of your glucose.

You can get anything you want and still keep your glucose levels steady and managed if you learn these little tips. So we talked about the veggies first. We talked about pairing a piece of fruit or sugar with like some almonds or some nut butter. Other stuff you can do vinegar. Vinegar is very interesting. So you have a little glass of water there. I mean, if you put a tablespoon of vinegar in there and drink it before you eat carbs, you're going to

lower that glucose spike over those carbs but up to 40%. Because vinegar contains this like magical molecule that slows down how quickly carbs turn to glucose in your digestive system. You eat them with like cucumber? Yeah. I love vinegar and cucumbers. Like pickled cucumbers? Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. So how do you tell moms to serve their kids? Is it the same formula? Yeah. So you do vegetables, protein, car. You really good tip is while you're making dinner. If your

kids are a bit hungry, just serve some pieces of like raw carrots or celery or cucumbers with them on the table. They can just kind of nibble on them before dinner so they get a veggie starter in there before you even sit down. And there's a big thing for kids which is we have to get rid of the idea that fruit juice is healthy. So whole fruit is fine. Fruit juice is just sugar. So there's a lot of marketing in there. There we have to unpack. But yeah, same things apply. I wouldn't do vinegar

for kids because it's just a bit too intense probably for the little teeth. But yeah, it's the same concept. So a protein rich savory breakfast is always the way to go whether you're an adult or a kid that's super important for your glucose levels. Veggies first, move after eating, put clothing on your carbs. If you're a kid, if it's 4 p.m. your kid is like I really want this

donut or just whatever. Say okay, but first have some almonds. Want to package always the sugar

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and I want him to attack you yeah I'm like I do I want him to develop the confidence together day we were saying like we're joking I forget what I was saying winning or something about a game we were playing and I won the game I don't just let him win I'm like and then he goes no you didn't win I want to go spin and we didn't wouldn't we tied and I'm like are you like I was like okay fine we'll tie this morning he said fine retired I was like because it was kind

of like it was it was like a down game or something but the point I didn't want to discourage him but like no you lose you know because I was I respected that I see what he's doing I'm like okay like it's I want to develop his confidence muscle this morning he came up to me and said mom I just really want to snuggle with you and I thought oh my god of course you're so cute and then he said okay let's go snuggle could you grab a cinnamon roll and let's watch an

into turtles that's amazing that is a habit stop he got the food that he wanted in with

an into turtles but he was using the snuggle as the as to enter the door I have another question how did you originally get so into the topic of glucose because obviously you've built an

“entire business and brand like around glucose I would be curious honestly it came to me I didn't”

look for it so I would say the origin story is I was 19 years old uh went to Hawaii for vacation jumped off a waterfall broke my back oh Jesus some of my one of my vertebrates snapped into 13 pieces sorry it's gruesome especially for you they're in for all of them oh no why can't he handle that you just can't handle it okay cool cool so she would rather than to prepare for his kids okay now I have all these metal rods in my bag yeah so I had surgery yeah but why do I back pain

is the worst yes but I don't have any back pain yeah well at the time let's stop projecting your back pain you're like back pain is the worst yeah so physical you know injury etc but then I started developing these crazy mental health symptoms so de-presentization which is a feeling of being a stranger in your own body I would look into mirrors and have panic attacks I'd be like who's that like it was fucking freaky I was not okay and I was 19 and I was completely broken

and at that point I felt okay if I don't fix my health like I don't know how I'm gonna go on and so I was studying mathematics and I kind of shifted I was like okay I have to understand how this body functions so I went to school for biochemistry my graduate studies I worked in

“genetics for a long time etc but nothing helped me the only thing that helped me almost”

10 years after my accident is putting on a freaking glucose monitor and it showed me that big glucose spikes could trigger these episodes of de-presentization hmm yeah that's the face I made learn so wait how long does de-presentization last is it all day long or is it coming go it was like constant for six months or a year and then it started just being these waves and I would be super scared of being alone ever because I would I didn't know when they would come up and start and one

morning I had a doughnut for breakfast and I was wearing a glucose monitor as part of this pilot study I was in with my working silicon valley just kind of randomly and big glucose spikes from the

doughnut and boom I feel an episode coming on and so I went whoa this is the first time I have a

clue about something that might be connected to my mental health nobody that I talked to no doctor nothing ever said look at your diet ever ever and so I was like thank god like thank you universe for showing me this and so this came from a desire to fix myself so I looked through all the studies I was like glucose and mental health glucose and somebody without diabetes and I read everything I could I found these hacks I discovered them I applied them I started feeling better

and then I could rebuild you know after they're sort of baseline nutritional stuff then I did a lot of EMDR some addict therapy and now I'm fine but it was through my own pain and then I was like people need to know this stuff because it's not just for mental health whether you have fertility issues type to diabetes cravings fatigue exima acne etc these glucose hacks are super important for everybody what kind of somatic killing did you do so cream your psychotherapy was great and then

I just learned that when I'm having an episode an important thing is to go into my body because I was

from the surgery and so my body was locked up from distress so I started learning I need to dance and need to move if I'm not feeling well get on the ground like do yoga move make sounds like let my body release the stress that was inside of it so I kind of made up my own stuff Michael and I have recently gotten very indecranial sacral therapy yeah and she's deeper in it than I can stop believe it is like I have done nine years of talk therapy in seven months

“I cannot I honestly can't believe it I can't I almost can't even explain it to you because it's”

so gnarly and you can't explain it to anyone really until they do it did you have that experience

with it it was one of the first of my things I did and the first session the practitioner

puts her hands behind my head and I'm laying down and all of a sudden my whole body starts feeling the pain that I felt years before when I woke up from my surgery my whole sciatics were and like everything was burning my back was burning my legs were burning I started shaking it was like what your body released it yes yes did you cry or throw yeah I cry all the time but it was more the crying was just a stress release but I saw that my body was holding on to all this

stuff and I was so shocked that this practice this session sort of summoned it back it's why like how what happened in your experience can you share I've just I've just been unwinding have you heard of this like moving and like I move all these different ways and it's like

“your fascist unwinding and you get sick wouldn't it too I got a hex herks no then hex Carson”

it's I don't know what it's called it's it's a physical reaction like kind of like you get tired of it and it felt like there was all this I want I I hate to say trauma but that's what it felt like in my fascia it was wild and I was drawn to it because we got it for our baby and I was like I'll do a session and now then I did it and I was like holy shit you know what she said too and I don't know if you've experienced this it can take 10 years to get into unwinding

so I have to open I started but when you did cranial sacral did you find that it helped with

pain in your back or did you not have any pain it was never about the pain never about

it was always about the brain it was always about the intense fear of being alive that I had developed did it help with the personalization it helped a little bit yeah over time it helped I would feel better after the sessions I would come back it was a long long process but it's one of the modalities that helped me yes when you started getting better through learning more about glucose was the shift really just eating the donut in a different way it was not eating the

donut breakfast it was eating protein in the morning and if I did really want the donut it would be after a meal for dessert you know at the end so it's not like you you're telling people what I think so cool about you is you're not telling people to deprive yourself or not eat the donut no you're just saying have a strategy around the donut it's like how do you eat the donut in the way that doesn't yep creative vicious cycle of addiction we all want to eat the donuts but if you

have it for breakfast all day you're going to want a chilate with a bunch of sugar and a cookie and you know more chocolate because you're going to be in this glucose roller coaster so how bite a donut have it after lunch for dessert so that it doesn't start controlling you like I want to control my donuts I don't want the donuts controlling me and how I feel and my the amounts of sugar cravings are having well and think about it yeah and in this country in particular maybe not so much

internationally but maybe happening more now like we a lot of people start their day with like these super sugary coffee drinks or energy drinks with a ton of sugar in our official sweeteners

and so I imagine the majority of those people at the first day with the glucose spike yes and I think

one of the main contributions of my work has been for people to understand that glucose matters for everybody not just for people with diabetes because it affects you in so many ways for me was mental health maybe for you guys it would be I don't know something really random maybe your toenail would stop hurting I don't know but blood sugar balance is the key of good physical and mental health and so you don't know what it's going to unlock for you if you think you could feel better

“than you currently do then you need to try to manage your glucose levels and see what happens”

does honey spike your glucose yes it does even honey is sugar yes honey is sugar so honey is great if you love it have it for enjoyment don't think it's like a health food have it after a meal for example don't start your day with a T and five teaspoons of honey in it that's going to be a big glucose spike waiting to happen I do honey sometimes in my coffee but I'm gonna but I was the other day she was asking why because I remember I wasn't doing it like when I said it up

intuitively I just feel like it was too much honey yeah potentially if you're going to eat honey though okay can you have two eggs before the honey absolutely okay that's my girl have they done any studies with spike glucose levels as it correlates to mental health or mental disorders yes

people having more symptoms of depression and anxiety so when you put people with depression and

anxiety on a low glycemic diet that means a low glucose spike diet they report fewer symptoms I'm not saying it's causing things like I don't know what was going on in my brain maybe it was the inflammation from the spike that was triggering the episode you know who knows but there is a correlation we know that diet and mental health are linked and we know that more glucose spikes associated with more symptoms do you have mtf HR I don't think so I wonder because I know there's a

lot of people listening that have that and I wonder if it's harder for them to process glucose I think it has to do with full eight right like full eight processing full eight metabolism

“I don't know if it impacts glucose you have to DM me if it does you find that out I would love”

to know what your thoughts are on that I have a particular question every weekend my kids want me to make mommy waffles and and I want to know if there's a better way to do it it's it's eggs bananas and oats yeah and you blend it up and it's waffle great is that okay because there's eggs in it or is that defeating what you're saying so everything is okay it's okay to make waffles

for your kids that have a little bit of sugar in them right it's not about doing it never so you

said eggs oats and banana yeah I mean that's a pretty good and healthy waffle so I think my question is like is it okay if the eggs are paired with the carbs do you notice it's a good thing it's a good thing versus having them before versus having the eggs and then having waffle she's asking because of the show because of the syrup and then but if you're having the things before I think you're asking mixing versus one after the other okay so one after the other is better

however mixing is better than no eggs at all in the waffles okay you see what I mean so we can deal with you mommy you can deal and also by the way nothing is good or bad in a vacuum it's always like compared to what right so they will compare to his French toast because that doesn't have

“egg that you know I use a nice French brioche you should have eggs first we have a competition”

with the kids we say what's better in this egg mixture and don't you make it with eggs it make it with eggs kind of it's like an a little egg okay can I suggest something please put on a glucose monitor and test both and see which one has the biggest spike I will do it okay which which glucose monitor do you want I recommend stelo which is the simplest most accurate one I can send you some stelo test it out send me the spikes and we'll do like a fool we help me put it

on the content about them I'm not joking I'll have to leave for the you should don't care putting it on me and see you we want to talk about mental health it's a joke I have to calm down people I'll send you some Michael okay so you're okay I'm excited this is I'd like this kind of thing because I feel like I can't tell at all that you're interested in this stuff because I like I like that you'll be able to measure like every little thing that's going on and also there you

“know there is value and just intuitively like feeling how your body feels but it's cool to have”

data because you can get real time insights into what's going on it's fruit bad for glucose no okay so that's a lie whole fruit is fine okay even though whole fruit is not natural so okay let me unpack this so you know people are like oh fruit is natural it comes in nature boba is not true all of the do you guys have pets yeah dogs yeah okay so you know how all dogs that exist today are human creation they all descend from wolves and humans have been breeding dogs to make like a shihuahua

golden retriever these are not real dogs they've been bred into these species okay not know that okay there you go so all dogs are fake more touch of all those who are doing the dinosaur - so all dogs have been quote unquote engineered by humans okay fruit is the same all the fruit in the supermarket today has been bred for centuries by humans to make them super sweet and juicy and low and fiber and high and sugar what if you grow your own still because the seeds that you buy

their modern seeds that have been engineered and bred if you go to lightly Amazon like untouched rainforest you'll find bananas that are not like the bananas you find at whole foods they're small and they're dense and they have low amounts of sugar in them okay so all this to say that the fruit you buy today is not natural it's high and sugar on purpose that being said fruit also contains fiber and as I explained fiber helps slow down the spike the problem arises when you change that

piece of fruit into like a smoothie or juice because then you're getting rid of all the fiber or polarizing the fiber and then just a bunch of sugar arrives into your bloodstream so yes whole fruit

is always fine fruit juice fruit smoothies be careful they're for enjoyment not for health

got it so all these people that are doing these crazy smoothies that all these establishments are spiking their glucose or juice cleansers I mean if you do like a vegetable juice it's fine because vegetables don't contain sugar for smoothies it's fine to have some whole fruit new smoothie just don't make a smoothie that's 100% fruit make sure there's protein and fat in there

that's my pet yeah that would be great like we don't need to worry about the glucose by glucose goddess smoothie yes I'm putting that out there in the ether for you great I think that would be true okay air one if you're listening we're gonna do unsweetened almond butter okay unsweetened almond milk grass fed way some frozen berries and some sprouted walnuts and then you blend that and then we're gonna add some cacao nymphs on top why not real milk

now you can put real milk I love real milk it just feels like this smoothie is like an almond kind of vibe yeah I love way we can do we can to milk slowly so you're putting the protein with the unsweetened peanut butter as the healthy fat and protein and then the milk's a little bit of

fat if we do real milk yes but the protein is essential when you're doing that essential essential

you need the two scoops of way in there or another source of protein what do you do when someone comes to you and they're a vegan depends on their stage in life if they're pregnant I'm like

“girl you got to get supplements like by my book and figure out what you need to eat because”

it with a vegan diet you will not get everything your baby needs if they're not pregnant I'll say make sure that you are not confusing vegan with healthy there are lots of unhealthy vegan foods and make sure you're getting your protein make sure you're supplementing with omega 3's also what do you mean make sure you're not confusing vegan with healthy because these people think that just because it says vegan on it that means it's a healthy product exactly so you see like a vegan

smoothie like oh that's healthy but you don't realize it has two cups of honey and maple syrup and

lots of things can be vegan and really bad for you what is healthy when it comes to being vegan well I guess whole fruit whole vegetables a ton of lentils okay a ton of pulses avocados olive oil nuts and seeds okay coconut and do you eat everything yeah so what are the main food groups that you're focused on I am focused on protein okay so I eat a lot of eggs I love meat fish chicken I eat a lot of fats I'm French I love cheese I love cheese on

I love Parmesan Parmesan is like my addiction oh Parmesan so I put Parmesan on everything I eat lots of veggies and I eat lots of good stuff like I love bread I love pasta I love desserts but I just eat them in the right way to not trigger deeperization episode outside of people learning to eat in the right order which we've covered yeah if you could wave a wand what are some things you just would completely eliminate from people's diets in the way that they're eating

probably like sweet breakfast foods which I think are really harming us 100 years ago people didn't have dessert for breakfast and now most kids are being brought up on sweet breakfast cereal so I replace all of those with an omelette quick break to talk about cachava many of you guys write in an ass what kind of protein powders learn and I take we love cachava because

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deprive them of that moment now I'm gonna be more strategic with giving them veggies and protein before

“they eat it but it is really crazy how food can affect the children yes I mean my kids are different”

kids if they they they get that red 40 vans cake like look with the little balloons on it will look out I'm a different person it but I have like a crossover breakfast like stay away I'll be awful that have my nice omelet with fed-end tomatoes I'm a much nicer person we are affected by what we eat our brain is affected by the levels of glucose in our blood it's crazy so if someone's listening in their pregnant what are some pillars that you swear by that they can find in your

book the first one is Colleen so Colleen yeah Colleen is really it's it's amazing Colleen is

a new friend that's found in eggs in liver in meat and fish and it builds your baby's brain so by the time your baby's born most of his neurons will be in place most of his brain cells that process information will be in place bond is made from liver perfect healthy bed you know it's what's interesting only there's there's there's there's a lot of studies now coming out saying like a higher cholesterol actually could be good for longevity and for the longest time I mean

you're similar it shows we went through the era of people saying like too many eggs don't eat your eggs it's bad for you and now you're trying to say like you need that Colleen you need that protein and it's one of the you know higher cholesterol could be really good for you absolutely and look there's studies also on pregnant women so when you supplements pregnant moms with Colleen

during pregnancy and then you look at how their kids fare in the first year of life these kids

“have faster reaction times to this very important test that is essentially a measure of adult”

intelligence so when a mom has eaten enough Colleen during pregnancy there's a measurable impact on her baby's brain development years and months later this is a very cute one second cute one protein when you're pregnant you're building another person's body and you need a lot of protein for that your needs go up so you gotta get at least 1.5 grams of protein per kilo bodyweight per day in the second and third trimester very very important and studies show that

if your baby doesn't have enough protein in the room he will adapt he will adapt to what he believes he will be born into meaning a low protein world so these babies in animal studies come out smaller

with less muscle mass and this setting stays with them for life that's the second one third one

omega threes dHA super important build your babies brain and there's a study that shows that when you supplement moms with omega threes and you measure their kids IQ at four years old they have four points more IQ if they had enough omega 3 dHA in the room and the last pillar is learning about sugar during pregnancy the amount of sugar that you eat will be directly reflected into your baby's bloodstream so your glucose levels become your baby's glucose levels there's

no filter in place if you spike your baby spikes there's lots of things that you can do to lower those glucose by extreme pregnancy while still eating the cookie in the ice cream that we inevitably crave sometimes so these are the four pillars and this is what I did during my pregnancy and these are the four things that are scientifically proven to have a beneficial long-term impact on your child so it's not a good idea to be pregnant like well this is the time I'm pregnant like

it's a free for all and just get all the things that I gotta be careful as the man on the show asking this but you get what I'm going I think it could potentially could have long-term effects if you're not there's a bunch of harmful myths around pregnancy one is that you're just a it's just a button in the oven you're just an oven you're passive it's just about he's just going regardless of what you're like chill out don't stress that's a big myth second myth your baby will get

“what he needs from you it's not true the studies prove this you need to get the right stuff so”

you baby gets the right stuff and the other myth is you should eat for two here have more pancakes because you're building another body this is actually the time when you have to be the most conscious of by your diet but moms are being lied to or this information is just not coming to them so yeah it's not a good time to just say okay if it's obviously whatever it's actually a time where you eat will have a long-term impact on your baby and hopefully this book

nine months that count forever is going to help people navigate that with very clear pillars but not too much stress and easy tips if our social team pulls a clip of me telling women not to eat it and I'm go don't pull that you pull it on use I just framed it up to get the information as a good interviewer should what is the biggest misconception about your content online where do you see the most pushback to biggest misconception about my content I think people

who just come across maybe a post or even just my name they think I'm all about no sugar maybe they think I'm all about restriction and sugar is bad blah blah blah so they think I'm more extreme than I am another misconception is that I have diabetes but whatever that's just a personal misconception I don't think you're extreme at all yeah when you get the context of what

not about restriction or saying you can't eat good stuff anymore that you enjoy it's just easy tips that help people live a slightly easier life what is your opinion on GLP wantons with everything you know about insulin and glucose it's very powerful it does help a lot of people

lose the weight that they have never been able to lose I think my my biggest

thought about it is that it's kind of like if the water that came out of the tap was toxic and our solution to this was not to clean the water but was to give people a drug that makes them less thirsty oh that is literally what's going on with food so it's a quote unquote solution to the problem but it's not solving anything so when all these people get off you're saying that the problem is not solved the food problem is not solved right they they're not magically transported

into a land where the food is healthy and not killing you the main issue is that if you're on a

“GLP one you have to make sure to eat enough protein as you guys probably know it's all about keeping”

that muscle mass otherwise you're just gonna lose your muscle and then when you stop the GLP one drug then you're gonna gain weight back and it's just fat that you're gaining back so you can be in a worse situation than you were in the first base but I think people are aware of that now

they know that protein is important when they're on a GLP one it's it's remarkable and it's incredible

it really works you know really cuts people's appetite I've seen it firsthand it's like it's insane I know we've covered diabetes and inflammation does glucose have any effect on allergies or skin conditions or asthma or anything about nature or there's no correlation in pregnancy yes so there's a correlation between the amount of blood sugar levels and inflammation in the room and your kids risk for allergies asthma allergic asthma and exima as a toddler and as a child so something

about how inflammation in the room seems to be making a child immune system overactive and so potentially you develop in these conditions in terms of in adults I don't know I'll have to look at the size and tell you okay then we're on the GLP ones that we're actually switching gears a little bit

for weight management are people able to use these monitors in levels to kind of work towards

“managing their weight in a more effective way yes because here's the thing when you study your”

glucose levels two main things happen one fewer cravings so it's easier to not reach for a candy bar two I told you earlier on that when we have a glucose spike our body grabs the glucose and puts it into fat cells as a way to store the excess damaging glucose and so when you have high glucose levels your body is in fat storage mode your body cannot burn fat so in order to start burning fat you need to keep those glucose levels under control so naturally if you look at your glucose spikes

and you start to manage them it becomes much easier to lose fat on your body if that's your goal and it's usually a side effect of glucose managers because you're aware of that during the fat storing mode not really it's just because your body naturally does it right so if you come to glucose management because you want more energy if you're cravings you want to manage diabetes you want to manage your hormones well then kind of often what happens is that as a consequence you're also

“going to lose fat on your body you're going to lose weight because your glucose levels are”

steadier but it's not a diet like you know for me stelo and glucose hacks are not about dieting and using weight really fast they're about helping your body get back into a really healthy balance place and then naturally you lose weight I have a business idea for you I love this I'm getting coaching I would like a glucose monitor that is a swab in my mouth totally girl anything is possible leave it with me leave it with me don't care if it doesn't hurt I'm just putting

in the monitor okay okay you see yeah it just looks like a little like one day during one day they'll have glucose monitors that are just a little laser that looks through your skin would you be into that they look through my skin so sorry they're like in a watch and they won't even touch your skin oh like a laser they'll be able to measure your glucose at the end of the year math on that and not so good probably yeah we just get like a little swab in our mouth no because your

saliva doesn't have here but here's where people like you know drives me when we get into like the EM it's like listen if you you might have to take a little more EMF but if you can manage your glucose and get rid of inflammation and complex diabetes and weight management like it's probably better can I start eating my vegetables in my protein before my yes well I'll be it good stuff you know what I love is that you both if you have like the perfect very

merit as it weighs yes of course but also very like a contrasted waves of seeing glucose so learn you're all about like I just want to introduce you to the vegetables I'm chill like just veggies tell me about the waffles well I'm like yeah I want to measure it but both work and both the makes sense yeah we're very young and young and then we'll fight about it in the

we just love each other all right we're all on the same page of red flag divorce in two years

calling it in a new book the nine months that count forever how your pregnancy diet shapes your

baby's future you have a March 2021 release can everyone pre-order it absolutely on Amazon yes

“I am such a fan of what you do you can come back next time you're here I think you're a wealth of”

knowledge and that was really really eye-opening for me especially knowing now that I need to put

vegetables out for my children when they come home because he's asking me for mommy specials all the

“time well she said it's not that bad I want to see the test I want to see the glucose bikes”

okay thank you for doing this thank you for having me guys Jesse where can everyone find you glucose goddess on Instagram and the book coming up so moments that count forever thank you thank you Jesse