Tucker on the Devastating Cost of War and What It Means for American Politics With Saagar Enjeti

and most honest, analysts of American politics we think about the effect of the war in Iran here in the US, on our politics, on our economy, on our life.

But first is a couple of quick things, which is no matter what you think of this war you've

got to be rooting for the United States, your country, and particularly for the people fighting this war. It's a cliche to say, but it's true, they are the best people this country produces people who voluntarily joined to defend the United States who were often put to bad use and badly treated by our political class, but that doesn't make them bad. They are great and you've got to be rooting for them for us collectively and saying prayers both

for the country and for the people fighting on its behalf and in its name, our troops. That is real. The second thing concerns the show that we did two days ago about the efforts to rebuild the third temple in Jerusalem on its own length about this and why at its core for some of the people fighting in this conflict in the United States and Israel and Iran, this is a religious conflict and that we should be aware of the effects of that long term, religious conflicts are

not typically resolved quickly, they can go on generationally, they can go on a thousand years, in fact they're still ongoing for over a thousand years in some cases. So it's a big deal to have a religious war in some ways this may turn out to be a religious war and others is just

“inherently a religious war. So you should know and at the center of that conflict is this thing”

called the third temple which is not yet exist, but some people would like to rebuild. So we did

all show on this seem to be important and true and in the course of that show, we described patches that some soldiers in these really military, the IDF are wearing that show a, an image of a temple, the third temple and we asked where did these come from? And it seems like from accounts that we read from those soldiers online that they got these patches somehow from a group called Hobad in the United States as a global group but it's headquartered here in New York and Brooklyn. And we said,

but you can check the tape, it was like, "Cabad, they seem like really nice people, met a bunch of people in Hobad over the years, they do a bunch of charitable enterprises, but apparently these patches came from Hobad in Hobad. Check their website is in favor of rebuilding the third temple and why wouldn't they be their religious Jews?" And the temple is at the center of Judaism as described in the Torah, what Christians call the Old Testament,

and all sacrifices of public worship takes place in the temple in Jerusalem built on the foundation stone and that's where God resides, according to Judaism, to Torah Judaism and all of that ended in 70 AD when the Romans, as predicted by Jesus, destroyed the temple. Now from a Christian perspective, God destroyed the temple. Jesus destroyed the temple and became himself the temple. He replaced the temple with his body and he says this, "I am the temple." So that is the Christian view of the temple,

but the Jewish view of the temple is very different. And it's what I just described, which is this is where God lives. So if you're a religious Jew, you want to see the temple rebuilt and there's no criticism of that. That's a religious perspective, which is internally coherent. Our only point was,

“you should know that this happened is happening and that U.S. taxpayers are paying for it and apparently”

these patches came from Hobad. That was the sum total of my observations about Hobad. Well, the next morning, which is to say, "Yes, today wake up and they're all these attacks. You know, Hobad, you're attacking Hobad, you're blaming Hobad for the war." No. Didn't really pay too much attention to it. Of course, these are organized by these attacks, or part of a propaganda campaign, which by Israel and its proxies here in the United States,

who are many, at least online, and the idea was to make this seem like an attack on Hobad, which it wasn't and not intended to be and wasn't inherently an attack. And then Bill Ackman gets in and says, "You have potentially blood on your hands. You're calling for violence." And Bill Ackman is mad at me. I know Bill Ackman because nothing with Israel, because I once pointed out that Bill Ackman is a thoroughly mediocre

intellect. Bill Ackman's not a genius. And yet, Bill Ackman has billions of dollars. And like, how did that happen? That's not the American dream I was told about

“that people with very little talent become the richest people in our country. How does that work?”

What American dream are you living? How did you do that? Same with Jeffrey Epstein? Guys, like, not very bright. It's very obvious from his texts and emails, but he wound up

with a billion dollars in his own island. Where did the money come from? How does this

because anyone who knows Bill Ackman knows, you know, not a genius, not like a moron or anything,

“but clearly not a brilliant person at all. And yet, he is so rich. So that's his grudge,”

understandable. People don't like it when you point that out. No one's ever answered the question by the way, how did he get rich. But whatever, anyway, he doesn't, he's mad. And so he accuses me of, you know, stoking violence or something. And I just completely ignore it. But then, I get two phone calls from friends of mine, people I know and have known a long time, who were involved with Abad, both good guys, and both have kids at Abad schools. And the first call is and says,

you know, people are really upset that you're calling for violence against Abad. And I said, life, not calling for violence against anybody. It was, including Abad.

And I would never do that ever. I totally reject that. And so that didn't happen. And he said,

it will be very helpful if you would issue a statement, disavowing violence. And I said, well,

“gosh, I mean, done like 100 shows on that. I, I hope my life is an ongoing disavowl of violence”

against innocence. And I will continue to say that because I sincerely mean it from the bottom of my heart. It's my religion. So yes, I mean it. And then just to be kind of mean, I said, I will issue a statement disavowing violence against innocence in tandem with Abad's statement, disavowing violence against innocence. Knowing, of course, Abad does not disavow violence against innocence, of course, Gaza. And they can't. Because they don't believe that. I think,

you know, I would be surprised if Abad issued a statement disavowing all violence against all innocence. And of course, if they do, I will, you know, join them for dinner to celebrate, because that way, and I will praise them for doing that. And anyone who does that will get praise for me, heart felt. But I doubt they're going to do that. And then I get a call from another friend of my, like an actual friend of mine saying, you know what I mean about you, but I've got kids

it. And they're closing the school because if you're calls for violence and I thought, oh my gosh, now you're now I'm upset because I don't want to add at all, even it inadvertently to an environment where people are afraid or feel like they're going to get hurt. And so I guess what I would say is, of course, I'm totally opposed to violence against innocence again. But moreover, this is the product of the war that is underway now and evidence of the point that

this is fundamentally a religious war whose effects are already being felt here, which is to say groups are in fear of other groups, American groups are in fear of each other. And that is just absolutely a tragedy. And we should all oppose that. And at the center of it are the most innocent of all which are kids who are being told by adults that they could be killed for who they

are. Now think about that for a second, think about a PR campaign or a propaganda campaign

designed to make people terrified for their lives, which is what the Israeli campaign is, telling Americans that they could be killed. That anti-Semitism in the United States is so terrible being ginned up by people like me and other people online that they could be killed. Imagine that's not true at all. But imagine being so unscrupulous that you would terrify kids in order to silence criticism of your territorial expansion campaign, which is exactly what this is. Israel

wants to be bigger. They want their regional rivals out of the way. They want to weaken the United States, get us out of the Middle East. And they want to weaken Western Europe, which they just hate on for whatever reason. They truly hate Western Europe, which is one of the reasons these Israeli government has helped to move migrants into Europe to weaken and destroy it. What is that? I don't really know the answer, but it's demonstrable. They hate Western Europe. And so whatever

their bizarre agenda is, in order to stop criticism of it, they're telling Americans, including children that they could be killed to get them on side with their program. That is super dark, that is evil, completely evil. And imagine we're overplaying along with it with your own kids,

telling your own kids that people hate them, and we'll always hate them no matter what they do

because of how they were born. That is not good for kids. And I say that, not just as an American,

“but as a father of many kids. That's the worst thing you could ever do to children. Who's doing that?”

A lot of people are doing that. And it doesn't produce happy people. It produces unbalanced to people like Mark Levin, who's mother clearly told him that. That is not a fair description of the country we live in. We live in a still now for all its flaws of a very decent country,

moment to foment religious hatred in this country, hatred of American, for American, on the basis

of religious identity. And that is totally wrong morally, but more than that, it's completely

“destructive. If you want to wreck the United States and some people do want to wreck the United”

States, we can the United States. People behind this war want to do that. Again, that's one of the reasons for having this wars to weaken the United States, both economically and destroy its social cohesion. You would do that. And that's why they are doing that. And so I would just hope that all Americans can resist that deal with each other as individuals, as fellow Americans, as citizens, and whatever you do, leave the kids out of it. Don't use kids for your political ends. That is

totally wrong. And the rest of us should call it out when we see it. So I hope everyone connected to a

bod understands that the last thing I would ever do is call for violence against them because they're

part of a religious group. You know, that's the opposite of what I'm saying. And so with that, our friend, Sager and Jenny. Sager, thank you very much for doing this. I've been thinking of you

“all week. Let's start just with the overview. What have you learned since this war began?”

Well, the Tucker, unfortunately, and I'm very sad to say this is that our very sovereignty is in question right now. The Secretary of State made perhaps one of the most remarkable statements of my entire life and perhaps in modern history when he declared unequivocally that we are involved in this war as a result of either inability or the adherence to in Israeli strike that was going to happen on Tehran. This reveals a lot of different things about our government, our structure.

We were either unable to exert pressure on Israel to avoid such a war. We either act. We asked to it, and both are terrifying in their result because we are of course the global superpower in Israel is a client state. I've also learned very unfortunately having spent my entire career trying to repudiate the lessons of the Iraq War of Syria and of Libya of a overwhelming propaganda effort on both sides, both parties, the mainstream media, but still unfortunately very alive and

well it seems in the Republican Party and in the White House cheering on regime change demands of unconditional surrender made to the Iranians just this morning. The endorsement of a Kurdish civil war campaign. It really does feel as if things are accelerating even with the perspectives in modern history of literally 5, 10, even 15 years ago to learn that these are exactly the moves that we should not be making. And so I'm really terrified right now to be saying that our sovereignty itself

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on these awesome chips. I unfortunately agree with that and you could feel it in the days leading up to it. I saw Trump three times in the month before and it was obvious to me that he

“didn't want to do it. It was I think obvious and every TV appearance that he made he was never”

made the case that this was going to help us in any way. He did make the case that Iran shouldn't

have the bomb got it. It was never about that of course. I don't think he wanted a nuclear

Iran. I don't think he likes Iran. I think he's been told they tried to kill him. I think that's all real but he understood the risks and it was obvious to me from talking to him that he didn't want to do this but that he couldn't get out of it and the American president has less room to maneuver than voters imagine he does and it's just a horrible burden on every on every president since John F. Kennedy you can you can feel it and I think we shall go back and look at the tapes at pivotal

up against removable objects and pressure that just can't be resisted. Well it's tragic if that's the

“case I will say I mean we can't give we we can't take away the individual action of our commander”

and chief and of the people who are in power and let's be honest here Tucker promises were made you and I sat in many rooms over the years where we were explicitly told that this is the one thing that we are going to avoid war with Iran and I do want to make very clear that it is not just about war with Iran this is a regime change war with Iran this is a regional war with Iran which is now engulfed our golf allies this is now a war which is depleting our interceptor stockpile calling

in the very alliance structure of the United States we are potentially pulling interceptors away from South Korea which we of course do 400% more trade with with then Israel I mean take the combined

GCC bilateral trade the Gulf Arab nations with the United States compared to Israel and you have

golf officials who are furious going on national television saying that they are being deprioritized they're very ministers at this moment you and I are speaking are talking about with drawing their economic investments in our companies trillions of dollars at stake and all of that

“belies the very people who I think you talked about the American soldier and I've been thinking”

all week about Declan Cody he was 20 years old and he perished in that attack on our base in Kuwait he was born four to five years after 9/11 I'm literally in this business to try and to make sure to make that that something like that doesn't happen it breaks me to watch somebody who is just that young who had their entire life ahead of them perished in another Middle Eastern war not to mention including one of the service managers of mother of children she had you know had hobbies

she had a husband and I have to say you know you know I cannot let our individual leaders off of her career secretary hexat recently made a statement at the Pentagon podium where he said in chastise the national media for not celebrating more of the quote wins that were happening in Iran spending too much time on the dead American soldiers trying to highlight that as if it's some sort of political prop and part of the reason I'm here today and part of this and I do my show

every day is just to say it's not 2003 I will not be blackmailed silence or told that we cannot mourn our dead with that we cannot stop support our troops without supporting the war this is over we are absolutely declaring an end to this I thought I think you thought many other stuff that this was an end whenever it came to the Trump election in 2024 and it is tragic to actually have to be able to sit here and talk to you about the situation today I mean the the vote for Trump

which I cast and I try not to I don't vote that much to be totally honest you never have because

I'm always traveling but I voted absentee for Trump and was happy to do it and I think a lot of people who don't normally vote did the same and they did it in part as a vote for sovereignty

“that's what worked that's the debate is the United States have a right to make decisions and”

its own interest in the interest of its own people does your vote actually matter are you voting for BB every time with you want to or not are you actually voting for an American who might help your country and I think we kind of answer that question but if if Trump isn't going to save us from a system that kind of hates us then what's the option right and I you look I mean I'm pleading I know that many people in the administration are going to listen so let me just lay out

the case already of the damage that has been brought on the United States our alliance structure in the Gulf Arab nations is in question we have multiple bases which have been hit these are allies which pump billions of dollars into our economy their very lifeblood is at threat right now force measure being declared Qatar LNG production has significantly declined the very morning that you and I are taping this we just got a very troubling job support 92,000 losses in the economy

we actually saw unemployment take up for native born Americans that is the very opposite of what Donald Trump wanted on the campaign trail an oil analyst that I deeply respect I spoke to him this morning if the straight support moves remain closed he projects oil at $200 per barrel this is a disaster a full fledged disaster the very day you and I are speaking again gas prices are at the highest price and Donald Trump's entire presidency now so far so you can see very clearly for the individual

pocketbooks of every American they will feel the result of this war and then geopolitically when you say sovereignty what is that about sovereignty the questioning of NATO which Trump and many of his officials talked about it's not about subsoobing our national interests in trans national organizations but even then we are watching if you care so much about NATO I've been trying to make this point to the neocons the Ukrainians are already noticing that many of the weapon systems which

would be needed to defend them if they wanted to continue this war are going to be depleted and

economic convinced to real allies by the way people who we do a lot of trade with who love us

and we love them watch how we are abandoning them if you care about China and trying to project power in the South China Sea the interceptor stockpile that we are using right now is a joke compared to what some potential conflict with Taiwan would look like we're already slow we're removing many of those options off the table we are not stronger as a result of this action and I do not see an off ramp currently floated by the president of the United States who is now declaring

un conditional surrender Tucker you and I we bonded often over history let's remember unconditional surrender and what it takes it takes the bloody urban conflict and invasion

of Europe and the battle of Berlin it takes dropping atomic bombs in Japan floating hundreds of

thousands of American casualties if we needed to invade Japan to occupied and demand that very policy it takes the Ulysses Eskran who is willing to sacrifice literally hundreds of thousands of casualties

“for an entire year long period to get to that point that's what unconditional surrender means and”

that is what the president has been demanding and I want every American to realize that unconditional surrender if that is the true demand and it is now said president Trump said make Iran great again this morning that is an only being forced with a ocean of American what and that is not something in our national interest we are walking every single day closer to that possibility

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blokes.com/tucker use the code Tucker 50% off labs 20% off supplements joinblokes get your edge back unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter if they want and everyone knows that and that has been if there's one consistent lesson of history means unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter everyone can feel that that's like the most out of his stick instinct there is and so to avoid that people will

“do anything and so that's why it requires that level of force to get a population subdued to the point”

of unconditional surrender that's why and so in this case of course we don't have the ground force necessary I don't think Americans would voluntarily participate in it I don't think we can do that it would require weapons a mass destruction it would require presumably nuclear weapons in order to do that and let's stop let's don't lie to ourselves we're moving toward that yes and that is another important point that I think you have been highlighting here is if you look at the decision matrix

where everything is about upping the ante a good friend of mine actually pointed out many of the Vietnam aspects that were already starting to climb so you watched very quickly we thought we could just decapitate the eye atola and they would crawl over and make a deal it didn't happen so then what happens we have to start bombing the police stations the border guards to be able to make sure that these cork Kurdish CIA back groups can make an incursion that they can start their

civil war and part of the country distract the security force at every step when the Iranians reject an American overture the natural it choice of the American president will be escalation and bombing already I mean watching statements coming out of the Pentagon it shocked it's like military assistance command Tehran they're bragging I mean Tucker as it again as an American who really was radicalized by the Iraq war to see the chairman of the joint chairman of the joint she's the

staff about how we've already dropped double the munitions of shock and awe I actually felt like I was going insane because we've learned nothing already they're talking about we've uh struck 2,000 different targets across the country look you don't have to believe me go and look at footage from the ground it

relatively in power as of right now and so when you again up the ante which president Trump did

“with his demand for unconditional surrender remember they told us it was just about nuclear weapons”

then it was about ballistic missiles then it was about projecting terrorism or something in the region which is you know that be less and undefineable a design for that reason by the way so that we would have to be able to go to war well then we now get to unconditional surrender which is only enforceable with massive weapons clear weapons in this case and now we have two nuclear on powers Israel and the United States which are engaged in this conflict and these really part of this equation

is really important America actually does have an interest in a stable Iran because of the streets of Hormuz which by the way our empire is now having to ensure oil tankers moving through the streets of Hormuz and potentially put all of our Navy sailors at risk to escort ships through doesn't even make any sense did you know that almost 80% of the oil moving through the streets of Hormuz goes to Asia 50% of it goes to China so we're ensuring it paying for Chinese oil

for the streets of Hormuz but Israel doesn't care about any of that there's even a quote from Israeli analysts in the financial times who said look if they change the regime great if they have a civil war great if anything happens great as long as they can no longer pose a regional threat to the nation of Israel then the Israelis are happy we have divergent interest actually in what happens in the country of Iran but this president has fees them with BB Netanyahu and by doing that he has

sold us truly into Pandora's box and now even extricating from this situation if the president

“just declared victory today which by the way Mr. President please do so it will be the best thing”

smartest decision that you have ever made in your entire presidency. Unfortunately I don't think that's going to happen even if he did think about all the fundamental questions of US alliances that were already in the minds of these golf leaders of Japan, South Korea of Taiwan

any potential US ally around the globe hundreds of billions have already basically been put

to the test the war is costing internal pay on projection one billion dollars per day every single time that this goes on and extraordinary measures are already being taken I just read this morning the Russians are providing intelligence to the Iranians to help them target US bases not like we can complain canly that that's how the Pentagon runs the entire Ukraine war as we learn from the discord leaks we do their battle damage assessments given the coordinates

and we tell them exactly where to shoot so we are entangled in a deep conflict which has

“immense risk for the global energy markets for our own soldiers for the region we've talked”

also about sovereignty let's talk about the refugee crisis my favorite question that you told

ass Ted Cruz he didn't even know the population of Iran 92 million by the way 92 million one third

almost the size of the United States of America destabilize a country which if we give them the Gaza treatment which again looks currently potentially likely and especially when these realies are involved what does that mean mass emissaration mass refugee flows all across Middle East across Europe Turkey is already I mean you have enough tally Bennett the former Israeli prime minister already saying oh actually Turkey is already now a threat to Israel

I a friend of mine predicted the dissolution of NATO will not come from America it will come from an Israeli action on Turkey and I hate to say it it looks even more likely today Turkey again actually good ally we have a good base there we have a decades-hong relationship all of that apparently is being thrown out as long as it's an Israel's national security interest so if you gave us out a little bit what that means because countries under threat flee the safety

just like people do if our allies in the Gulf which are real allies actually like we get as you just said we get massive benefit from our alliances with these countries but if they feel unprotected by the United States and it seems like they do because they are they're going to go somewhere else that it's same for Turkey so I'm not for NATO because I don't think it's fully under U.S. control on the other hand the option is powerful states emerging states like

Turkey which is not getting less powerful with time will align with the bricks of course and so absolutely so the net effect of this is to weaken the United States to get us to pull out of the Middle East which is real wants and to weaken the Gulf states and to destroy

Europe which is real hates for some reason has always hated Europe so I mean maybe there are

obvious reasons I don't know but they they have abetted the decline of Europe very aggressively now you're seeing Iranian refugees massing in France to cross the English channels this is this morning to great Britain so it's already happening the migrant flow is already going into Europe like tell me that wasn't the point from the start of course it was exact and this is the

who are perpetuating this policy we understood that the global effects of this refugee crisis

“but it inspired you know things like Brexit things like declarations of sovereignty the Donald”

Trump election in 2016 this was genuinely a rejection of that and then to watch the Syria Libya playbook currently being played out I mean you know unfortunately I find many people know Syria and Libya were a disaster but they can't or eventually explain why so let's take some time what was it there was a so-called protest you know against Bashar al-Assad that protest movement quickly became subsumed by radical jihadists the United States for no reason basically decided

that it was in our interest to remove Bashar al-Assad massively fund all of these jihadists in the region we gave them weapons we gave them time money support of course and what happened it created a

gigantic civil war as you always talk about it destroyed the Christian community some of the

less radical elements of that society and now 14 years later a literal al-Qaeda terrorist is their president the only reason that we don't talk about him that way is because he's a friend

“of Israel and allowed portions of his country to basically ban annex by them that's what these”

Israelis want they want and they had no problem with seeing in a rump state it merged in Iran but that's not an hour interest that's not in Europe's interest that's not in our allies interest is massively destabilizing same in Libya the what was the promise no fly zone for Gaddafi here fortunately we could literally get sottomized on national television on a video which you know deeply inspired Kim Jong-un and many other regimes that wanted to race to a nuclear weapon

I've been told directly that whenever we asked the United States or when we asked in those bilateral meetings with Kim Jong-un we said why don't you just give up your nuclear weapons he said look

what happened to Gaddafi he's never going to do it and he shouldn't in fact his his entire policy

has been vindicated so that's another element of this let's think about nuclear proliferation

“since the outbreak of the Iran war Poland has now declared their intent to try to become a nuclear”

power a nuclear upstate France said they are going to increase the amount of nuclear weapons that they have under production and they are no longer going to publicize them South Korea and Japan are going to be having some very serious discussions around this so in an ostensible war over a nuclear program we've actually probably inspired more nuclear proliferation and even the war in Iraq which I did not think was ever possible so to watch this all continue in this spiral

none of it works to our benefit and you and I are not NATO defenders you know we've talked often about we talked often about the following of expanding NATO eastward however we can recognize we have fundamental interests in a few select group countries the problem with NATO is it got far away from our core security interests but now countries in the core security umbrella themselves are questioning their fundamental relationship with the United States you know the eastern Baltic

region is not one that keeps me up at night but Japan South Korea you know Japan and South Korea the GCC countries which look you know I'm not saying we need a massive basis or any of that in the region but we need oil we need natural gas to keep flowing a nicely we need some of that money to be coming back here and that's obviously very beneficial to our companies those things being called into question erodes the foundation of the American Empire which actually does

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happen you never heard about it right so bad people become more powerful in chaos and they do

bad things and you don't even notice but one of the bad things that's happening is Israel is taking over southern Lebanon and you know more aggressively oppressing the west bank and making moves in Syria what how can Israel spare the military capacity the men's and armament in the middle of this massive war with Iran to take over southern Lebanon and why are we allowing that yeah that's a great question who do you think sells them the weapons and staffs their intelligence and basically

supports their entire nation state and military it's us and that's the reason they could never

“have struck Tehran like this on their own by their own admission that's why they always needed the”

United States I mean baby for once said the most honest thing of the entire life it's been my dream to go after Iran for 40 years 40 years it's been a dream and so call you have for a public incentives on our national television with no shame saying that Iran has been an imminent threat to the United States for 40 years I think they need to go back to school and read the definition of imminent but at the very least this propaganda is completely unchecked by our press it is just

accepted it is currently the party line but let's get to it you know what you just talked about there with Lebanon again if you don't read these really press which in some cases actually more honest than our own press ironically much more this is a quote where they say that it is really minister said

we will turn dahia into Gaza that's basically what he said we are going to take an area of bay route

“and we are going to level it to the ground that's what he said that is an open admission from the”

Israeli ministers what you can see already with the belligerence in all of these different countries from the strikes in daha to Syria now to Lebanon is this is about regional hegemony for the state of Israel I also think that their political popularity dramatically declining in the United States at this time makes it more existential for them than ever they know that this is literally their last chance to knock off any individual power which dares try to either host different types

of groups or have a government which may check them in some way and that's part of why our president's decision to join them is so disappointing because you can see very clearly and no I think you say this I often do too I get it from Israel's perspective but I'm not Israeli but I'm not Israeli my job our job is to look out for our country and so to see the vast armaments of the United States of America effectively pop up Israeli regional hegemony at the

direct expense of our own power projection is shocking so watch very closely what's going to happen with Lebanon you're going to see the mass expansion very likely because of Hezbollah rockets and ballistic missiles which have been shot into Israel that will be the pretext for a full scale

“you know reduction campaign that's what they like to call it you're going to see very similar”

actions right now in Gaza and in the West Bank don't forget I know you haven't seen this or I know you've seen this and American citizen was killed in the West Bank very very recently not that anybody in America cares at all it's from Philadelphia by the way and his own senator won't even stand up for him senator John Fetterman a Democrat just to show you some of the bipartisanship of this nature that's why he's sickening to watch I mean we've described this before it's not a healthy relationship

we're so far beyond that we need to wake up and we need to reclaim our sovereignty right now and this has nothing to do with anti-Semitism we can I mean I just laid out the very strategic case for why individually this is going to hurt you in the meat in the short term in your pocketbook in the long term from our geopolitical allies or strategic situation in the region and then across the globe if you care about china chips anything really you're watching the degradation of our

ability to project force and that is not only shocking but it is an urgent crisis which unfortunately again you are not going to hear much of this from our mainstream media networks which are just cheering on this war bringing on you know Iranian diaspora Tucker friend of mine made this joke he said America's the only country in the world immigrants come here to try and get us to arm their home country and their family can you what's the sickness of that relationship

I think you know this as well I'll say you know I'm technically part of the Indian diaspora my

parents are from there I'm from Brian Texas never asked me what's going on in India please I don't know

country you know it's it'll actually be disgraceful for me to try and to speak on behalf of them

let them speak for themselves and I I can't get over watch them in the BBC recently had a package where they had on three individuals a Iranian who were celebrating the bombing of their home country and my friend Trey Deparsi was like I'm sorry this is sickening like you look maybe that's one perspective but that's not the only perspective in fact it might be a minority perspective from what we see currently what's happening on the ground in the country so let's not deny the

people of Iran their agency since allegedly we're supposed to care about that and their protest movements let's recognize this is a highly heterogeneous this is a massive heterogeneous country with a lot of disparate types of opinions and we can look to history to say that when we demand unconditional surrender again I'm sure you've seen the literature on this what did the unconditional surrender man's do demand do to the German populace even when the Nazi party was massively

underwater in terms of the popularity they said we have no choice we must fight to the death of course

“that's what they declare the Japanese I mean there was a lot of consternation in their society”

about the way that the war was going once you fire bomb Tokyo and you kill 100,000 people in a single night and you say that unconditional surrender in the removal of your emperor is the only thing that we're going to accept well a lot more of those people died over the you know the next several months and so we're probably going to watch that happen now with Iran it's the same dynamic that

always plays out and the point of course is to build Israeli Empire to replace American Empire which

is dying hastened by this war with Israeli Empire and one thing I notice I can't contain myself and have to express it but when you say that the Israelis are destroying bay root which is having been to a lot of places in the world one of the prettiest places on the globe bay root is just a marvel it's beautiful it reminds me and being destroyed by Israel which is one of the single ugliest countries in the world nothing of beauty has been built there since 1948 sorry

I've been everywhere in that country and it's true that the nature of this emerging empire is destructive and it always seems like beautiful things wind up being destroyed Europe right bay root parts of Syria the holy sites I don't parts of Iran are apparently beautiful totally blown up this does seem like a war on beauty as well which next to truth is like this is not an American perspective but it's a Christian perspective and a real perspective this is a global perspective

beauty is worth preserving and yet it seems the determined effort of the IDF to destroy beauty and I just want to say that because I really notice it well maybe we watched some of that in Gaza and you don't have to be a Hamas lover to recognize the beauty of some of those churches or of their society of the West Bank which I'm sure that you have seen as well and yeah I've been spent a lot of my life in a large portion of this region I mean I'm watching my former neighborhood

“in Doha Katar with missiles flying down and by the way I think it was exactly a mile from where”

I used to live when I was in high school in Doha Katar that the Israelis actually struck that Hamas compound and actually even killed a Katari police officer I can't imagine what some of my you know I look this could have been me you know once upon a time I was in a class made at the American School of Doha it's March so it's just school time there are children American children by the way you know children of oil executives others I was my children charge out of professors

of many American universities which operate there who are now in a panic mode trying to get out of

the country as their airports are shut down there are million-plus Americans who live in the region

and it has been very short the evacuation notices that went out they clearly were not planning for this and actually that's a major indictment of our current force projection as well is it's pretty clear and Donald Trump said this he said we were surprised by the attacks on the

“bases which is shocking because I think you knew that was going to happen of course I knew that was”

going to happen it only need to read open source and read a little bit of what the Iranians themselves were saying they were like hey here's the plan if this happens this is what we're going to do and he said that they were surprised by that and now a million Americans are stuck the ambassador of my academy who by the way supposedly cares so much about Americans I saw his guidance from Americans in Israel trying to get out he was like take a bus to the Sinai and hopefully

you can catch a flight from there that's insane it's like a five or six hour bus ride which they're not even really arranging and that they would take to the Sinai peninsula and then I even read a story of pregnant woman who had to do did all of that imagine the stress of all while this is happening it take five six flights to be able to come home these are our people these are the people that were supposed to care about and so it's just so tragic you know thinking you were talking

about one beauty what you're trying to recognize and paint for a picture not everybody is as

gray black white photos these are real places with real people they have different opinions some of them hate some of the blavas now they have very disparate histories and and identities religions they're beautiful in the same way that all all humans are really beautiful in all places that

“we can find something to appreciate about them and so I think that's what's tragic things are on the”

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they're great places in their terrible places but some of these places among Jordan it's one of the great places in the world of gorgeous some some believable dough hut night I mean they're you know

I don't want to go on about it but let me just say I mean it's this is you know great things are

being destroyed and and this is I was thinking this morning kind of the laughs last gift of the boomers you know wars that are planned by that same generation which really did kind of diminish the United States and in the space of just 50 years I mean they really took so much and gave so little

“I I think this is the kind of war you could only have between people of advanced age I was thinking that”

I totally agree with you and you know let's even take some of the talking points you're older than me so this might resonate with you but everybody says this has been happening for 47 years remember 1979 I'm 33 years old my mother was 15 in 1979 okay so 1979 to me

is a history book yeah 79 is Argo the movie that's about as close as I've got to the Iranian

revolution I'm much closer to the destruction of my country at the hands of the Neocons of a back and Afghanistan I watched my cohort being unable to buy how houses I watched relative people who are younger who are terrified of AI I have friends who are having their electricity bills go up as a result of data centers I've watched my own city you know Washington DC which you could I've spent a lot of time and go down hill every single year that I've lived in it which is shocking

“right and and to watch literally that happened and then meanwhile again on planes and I go visit Tokyo”

or Doha or Singapore or Bangalore any of these places which had a lot of problems and still do but have gotten a lot nicer whereas where I'm living continues to tick down so 1979 I can appreciate as an American especially for a lot of the boomers I get it I must have been so horrible and shocking and you know to be fair I also think that the way the media covered that at the time they acted like the revolution just happened out of nowhere they don't have enough

of the know how to go back to most of the political revolution and the CIA and much of the metaling that we also did in that country not to mention the disaster of Jimmy Carter but I empathize with them for their hatred let's say of Iran and their knowledge or you know or looking at it as an enemy but I would also ask them to give us the same empathy it's to look at us in a country that we've grown up in and they're now raising children in my case and are saying I am looking at Iran

as an explicit not only distraction but coming directly at the expense of a lot of the problems which I care a lot about on behalf of my family on behalf of the people who are around me and for them I don't see any benefit from this well that's for sure so now I want to ask you about the effect on American politics I mean it feels like in the last week you know was as you said the secretary of states said something out loud that the day before would have been denounces the

anti-symidic conspiracy theory Israel made us do it he said that and it's true I can I can verify that that's true and it's now everyone's seen it and so like where do we go that the kidnapper is pulled off his mask so what does that mean now that we know going back from here we are not going back that's for Republicans are in a tough spot so let's look at the evolution of just the democratic party in the last 48 72 hours I'm watching Ruben Gallego Mark Warner who is like a national security

about how we're you know the dog the tail is wagging the dog and we can't be acting on the half

“of Israel Gavin Newsom the governor of California who months ago twisted himself into a not”

to avoid saying a word a pack and couldn't even talk about their influence on politics just said he understands why people would call Israel in a apartheid state and how we may have to question our relationship with that country so that the damn has broken on the demographics we can I say to post what is it I've watched all of this with my jaw open what are the chances Gavin Newsom called the ADL and a pack first before he said that and said hey guys just want to

give you a heads up I'm not nearly performatively attack you almost certainly 100% but the attack still matters and right even ADL or APAC would even allow that to happen if that were the case is still shocking I mean even APAC has made changes in a lot of their funding whether allowing funding to go to some Democrats even who are at least on the surface level who are opposed to them

but if that's the overton window that we all now live in as a country we can literally never go back

“to even the 2024 status quo yes but this is where the Republican party is very I think they're”

in a very tough spot imagine the amount of messaging let's say that's starting to start to come out about how Trump doesn't care about your gas prime I mean it's not just messaging is literally true the president said basically you know high prices it is so be it and even in terms of dead Americans I said something along the lines of you know it happens there casualties and war these comments are going to be wall to wall I remember oh six vividly it was actually the first

election which I really paid very close attention to and live through I'm sure you do as well just remember how the Democrats destroyed the George W Bush party and then let's look at the structural problems that we already have we have the economic problems already mentioned the bad jobs report as of this morning potential high gas prices just like back in the mid 2000s you're going and then you have people senators like Ted Cruz on your show Mike Huckabee members of our government

who are talking about the third temple I mean that's insane you're like you're talking about third temple and red halfers I'm out here trying to pay my bills man and then you can just watch how this is going to erode the entire Republican party especially whatever it comes to turn out now but I do also want to be clear and you live through this as well the Bush I grew up in Bush country the Bush deadenders they stuck with them with 5,000 American troops dead so there are a lot

of Republicans who will stick with president Trump throughout this war they revere and they trust

them and that's the right they can do so but well here's what I always try to say

Republicans are not the reason the Donald Trump won the 2024 election he won with a wide coalition of young people of Latino voters of a lot of independence and those people I can test you this 100% because a lot of them are watching this show my show all the time they have turned on this president they are furious about not just this war with Iran but a lot of different things up to this point and at this point I mean we are going into a territory where it's not just

about the war with Iran it's about how many clips I've played some of them on my own show of members of this cabinet members of this administration who spoke explicitly about why war with Iran is not in our interest and it's one of those things that's like the obscene files what people see inside of them is when you cover that up I can't trust you about anything else and same with war and peace I mean we're literally playing with people's lives and it gives spoken very eloquently

about the reason Washington loves this is because they believe that they are God is that the power of God for life and death in upon them makes them feel bigger from whatever sad life you know that they came from and they've been subsumed by that now with power and they are going to get a rude reminder of what that looks like in the midterm elections if things go in if things don't go in a rat radically different elect a radically different direction watching that play out in

Texas or watching that play out all across the country with democratic turnout and look even in itself interested perspective for a lot of these Trump officials you know if you don't want millions of dollars in legal bills and house subpoenas for the rest of your life the rest of your natural life let me be clear you might want to be start to do something very different than what you're doing right now so as I said I flipped to DC three times in the last month to try to convince

Trump not to this didn't work it happens I'm looking at this and I'm thinking boy this is not

“going to get better so then I think I'll fly up again and ask him I mean I don't know if anyone's”

doing so I'm gonna try to just declare victory and go home like you killed an 80s actual clericalist just call that a win and then pull back and so then meantime he you got convinced to denounce me okay I don't care I'm gonna fly up anyway and see him right even though he's like denouncing me so I call over there to see you know call someone who knows him just I've said I'm just

don't bother because he's being shown polling that this war is like a 90 10 win for him

and I said I don't know where that polling is coming from it's like you know I guess you could make any kind of poll and it's he's watching Fox News which is telling him the same thing and he's getting fake polling I guess they're only polling Sean Hannity's viewers or something and so I don't not sure that there's a sense as if this was yesterday because I was getting so agitated and

“worried I don't think that there's a sense that this is unpopular I think there's an information”

vacuum here there's a massive information vacuum and you know for the president and the administration who declared victory based on internet and vibes and podcasts let's take a survey shall we of every podcast that he appeared on and how do they feel about the Iran conflict you can you can look very clearly for yourself you can look at a lot of the polling of that same demographic which they were very excited about young men in particular how are they feeling

about this conflict and you know if you were saying 90 10 it's not even true in the Republicans sense

I mean to latest one that I saw was like 72 percent Republicans which by the way Mr. President

and everybody in the administration Bush had 93 for Iraq and how did that turn out for right so let's not put you know put all of our eggs in the basket of just because Republican voters are here that this is all going to be like sunshine and roses and I also would not make the spurious claim that it's all about Iran it's about compounding effects the gas price effect of the Iran conflict is going to be dramatically more important to the White House's political chances in the midterms

than anything that's actually happening on the ground I don't think it should be that way but that's reality and I do think also you know your your your inclination to get into trying to clear victory that's the correct move from strategic perspective and economic perspective from every political perspective you don't want the entire country's national discourse focus on Iran I'll give you a good example just yesterday the White House did a summit where they

were trying to address rising electricity prices on data centers in another world no Iran that's a main topic of conversation on my show a major topic maybe one of yours interests as well but in the middle of roar and peace and death and everything that's happening the amount of coverage that got is zero the president just gave his state of the union he had a lot of things

“in that said you know Iran what it didn't come until the 70th minute I think what was the”

rest of it about the economy about gas prices about jobs Mr. President and others like that's what people really vote on and so there's also in Washington and in media there is literally zero sub whenever it comes to people's attention the news is attention media and it's like we're doing the wrong thing matters of war and peace are on Iranically more important it's though then data center electricity potential plans but if you want people to be even acknowledged that you're

focusing on those types of things you cannot be having foreign adventurers run a muck in the Middle East and be declaring things like unconditional surrender which is going to be be headline

of every major news in every news organization in America you know we're never going to make Iran

great again whether you're pro or anti that's all people are going to be talking about for the foreseeable future not to mention oil prices and just give them the sheer imagery of bombs literally flying that's right people's head so big picture and again I'm always rooting for the United States and it's president no matter who it is in the case of this president I know I'm really well for many years and I always like I don't care what he says about me I will always have a

affection for him but I also think if you think about it like this is the end of something voters take a guy from completely outside the political system because they're so frustrated with the system and they like him or don't like him or whatever but it's the system that is on trial here and the system has been found wanting it it doesn't actually respond to voters in the way that it should it's not improving the country so they bring the sky from completely outside the system

“to shock the system and to tame it to drain the swamp and now I think we can say that that failed”

and so what now that's well we have a three more years to go I put a book behind me the drawers will be bushbook and it gave me no pleasure to do so because the parallels and I'm watching already to oh four to oh eight let's think about it we've got a squishy economy with some problems we've got a Middle Eastern conflict potential energy crisis we have an AI potential bubble which could part pop at any moment we have Democrats who are radically enthused with no leader

at the top meaning they get to have an open debate in their party and they can say things they're a lot more honest than the person who has a leader at the top of their party they can have real function and they can actually debate things out of the open that's very healthy for a political

Kerry campaign to winning what 55% of the vote on the Barack Obama that was a very good process for them well I'm watching it all play out step by step by step and it's very similar left you just said

about the revolution there was a revolutionary aspect to the Donald Trump campaign the second one

“more so than the first in my opinion and affirmed I think with the popular vote where it truly”

was revolutionary in terms of it you have this president he'd been president before I mean literally like he always almost assassinated there were all of these potential indictments against him you know the industry the sheer like imagery and idea of somebody like that being able to send again to the highest surface of the land isn't saying and then in the initial moments you have doge and you have you know people you would never see in power like RFK June here and Tulsi Gabbard

and Pete Hegsef there was a real excitement for an or cash betel origin or that at that point not at this point but these people were seen as revolutionary actors who were going to come in and throw a bomb inside of the system but then if you watch the US government do the exact same thing that it did under all these past presidents your revolution starts to look a lot more like the status quo which was deeply hated and which you exploited to your great political benefit and right now

I am watching the same type of revolutionary aspect take place in the democratic party and if you want any part of that and not to just be run over in future elections they need to get wise very very quickly I wonder I mean since all kinds of things have happened in the last two years that no one ever could have predicted like really really radical things from trumping shot in Butler Pennsylvania to right now a week ago the United States declaring war unprovoked

there was no direct provocation in the middle of negotiations with Iran like even though it was happening it was still a shock that it actually happened since we have a very recent track record of really unusual if not radical things happening I mean how like how concerns should we be in the United States about something like really radical happening here and not just a terror attack or as likely a false flag terror attack

or whatever Americans being killed in America which is what matter but like the US government doing something crazy how should we feel about criticism of this war or Americans who criticize the war from within the United States at risk do you think I mean let's just be honest it terrifies me it

“terrifies me it let's be honest that you should be honest because well let's look at the”

Department of Homeland Security right and we you and I can be supportive of a lot of the Presidents immigration policy and I think we can also recognize that there were parts of that immigration policy which were specifically directed by a foreign lobby for trying to

deport people who are critical of the nation state of Israel sorry I didn't care about that that

was literally like a function of like the Department of Anti-racism effectively coming in becoming the Department of Anti-Semitism as floated by it bringing candy so that was the level of insanity so we saw when people are getting deported for writing an op-ed okay well now this machinery has a new potential lead Mark Wayne Mulling is very pro Israel well also let's see that could get you know marched and created into an organism where already you know I've seen

calls for people who are critical of the war you know should be silent should be subpoenaed

“I think I saw that one about you they said that you should be subpoenaed and dragged”

they said I should be imprisoned yeah right prison right did yeah did somebody say you should even put into an internment camp yeah this is how it all happened guys I mean this is how it all the the Pearl Harbor to internment camps for Japanese was like this it was a blink of an eye within a year long period that's how it happened where we stripped all of these Americans of their fundamental rights and locked them in a camp that's insane so the idea that it could

never happen is obviously proof in my own history that it very obviously could but more importantly

it will look like in a 21st century way so there will be AI there's already mass censorship there's mass bots and propaganda efforts that are going on right now I mean already how difficult is it to even see various types of video which is coming out from the actual conflict trying to verify whether any of this is even real in real time as we're processing what's happening but I think what you raise is if you look at every war as for America especially the war is up my lifetime

the war on terror I am fundamentally less free today than I was as a child born in the United States in 1992 and the Americans who live through Vietnam were less free after the Vietnam war than they were before and the Americans who were born are the Americans of World War II were less free in many respects or especially during the war for censorship rules and all of the stuff that the government was doing been before the outbreak of the war and then

before that with World War I instead of war II I mean think about suspension of habeas corpus all of these different things that these presidents have done it is a natural effect for a wartime nation to crack down on speech and specifically critical speech of those war efforts

this is a historical trend which goes back through our entire history it's part of the reason I

“think that you and I are poor war so much and we also this is the scariest part is when you watch”

this censorship be self-imposed on media organizations and you create a system and an incentive structure such that criticizing the war will remove any professional ability that you may have to advance yourself specifically let's say as a policymaker in Washington you and I know dozens of people who are in power think I'll support this war they can't say anything out of fear of losing their job I'm not just talking about in the White House I'm talking about in the entire you know

it's national security apparatus the think tanks or others because they're afraid you know

either being called by the donors or prefer saying that you're being too critical of something

that the president supports open debate and free speech the inability to have any of that in the lead up to Iraq destroyed our nation it destroyed it I'm very committed to making sure that doesn't happen again but you and I are very individuals and the U.S. government is the Leviathan and we should be wary of it. Are you I mean as some and I this is not flattery but it's sincere you are one of the very first people to see this realignment in American politics I mean 10 years ago you saw it very

“clearly and you stick your whole career on it and you were right and that's what you've been successful I”

would say so it's worth listening to your prediction I think on this question do you see a crackdown on civil liberties human rights in the United States coming up and because of this war the war is a pretext for what was already in the plans but do you see that happening? I could see it easily happening and we already have the machinery as we saw with Israel criticism and the so-called department of anti-racism I've raised several cases to you Tucker of the department of justice

getting involved in like campus incidents which is insane by the way I pose that under Obama I pose that under Biden I oppose it now you know I'm going to stick to my principles the machinery for that is already laid and it is one that should really terrify us and you and I are an unique decision we can speak out I don't really care about myself I care about the individual person who is relatively powerless with 200 or so followers getting a knock on the door by the FBI saying hey

why did you say this what did you mean by that and that very level of harassment is chilling not to mention an institutional level who knows I mean will the government find people look at the situation with anthropic and quad right I mean you have this showdown between a Pentagon and anthropic over the use of AI their technology in a time of war demands over human oversight the government's

basically saying that's unacceptable you don't get to dictate those terms to us they can blacklist you

as a company literally blacklist you for not agreeing to those terms that's fine that's the right but think about that I mean they're basically saying that not only they're not going to use the tech they're not blacklisting from all US government contractors which is massively massively impactful to their entire business this can happen across the board and you can look at the CBS acquisition right now with Barry Weiss in charge of CBS news censorship doesn't just happen and not you know

we're a censorship and reductions of liberty does not just happen at the government level corporate censorship corporate power can be just as much of a threat to your individual liberty as the government power I mean this is the last English-speaking country probably the last country in the world in which attitudes have not yet been criminalized at least officially but Australian New Zealand Canada every country in Europe you're not allowed to have certain attitudes you can go to jail

like your opinions are crimes they are literally thought crimes and I've just noticed because I've been at the center of it this effort over the past year to criminalize attitudes and when I was first called an anti-semit I remember thinking one I'm actually not and so I don't know why you're calling me that and I was a noiter whatever but the insistence with which these forces are labeling people with the slander anti-semit it doesn't seem accidental I don't really think they're not

air if you're an anti-semit or not I mean Israel's very close to the Zelensky government which supports actual Nazis so like they don't care if you're an anti-semit this is an effort

“to set the stage for prosecutions that's what I'm starting to think do you think that's”

you two paranoid no no well first of all we are literally deported people for being critical

of Israel that actually happened already under this government we are having the Department of Justice the Attorney General get involved in campus incidents around so-called anti-semitism that is the machine and the groundwork which could be laid for exactly what you're talking about but then let's look we recognize this if you lift through the woke revolution let's think about the way that this works now with so-called anti-semitism as they accuse you it's all about escalation so first you're

excinsite violence against a specific organization incitement of violence is actually a very

“specific term so what does that mean in imminent bread which means that they want to be able to have”

an FBI agent come and knock on your door to ask you either to clarify what you're asking about or potentially prosecute you for your alleged comments that are around this each one is a step in a ground to make sure and to lay the groundwork to make it so that such a pace could eventually be brought and in an insane time and when we have look we're at the very beginnings of this conflict who knows how long it goes I pray it just ends but again all through history it only usually gets worse

whenever it comes to censorship and demands I mean already this entire conversation you and I know will be branded as anti-semitic and pro-eran these are meaningless ridiculous terms but they will be pumped as propaganda into entire ecosystem to smear and to define us both as individuals from there if you're pro-eran and it will be around wow then you're a traitor so now the traitor moniker is going to begin to be applied and then from there we'll start talking about

treason right so very recently I'll give you a great example during the outbreak of Russia and

“of Ukraine we had an incident I think it was with YouTube where they banned all Russian state media”

and I would make a case to them behind the scenes I said guys I'm not pro-erussian but if we're in the middle of a war which you know ostensibly we're not even in should not be able to cover what's going on in Russia which yes has a state media but they put out things from Vladimir Putin should

I not be allowed to play things from Vladimir Putin but never really had an answer to that I used to

do with that with Donald Trump so back in 2021 they had a policy where even if you pulled a clip of Donald Trump saying that the election was stolen some let's say in 2021 they would take down that video and I would say guys I have to cover the news he's going to run for president I you know I can get commentary on his clips but that is how quickly the censorship machine can act and especially now we're watching here with the entertainment of regulators and of these big

companies if you start to put pressure like that you could see it so that even with the government not directly trying to censor you for your comments by literally just branding you anti-semitic pro-eran or any of these things you can watch your variability speak out as the citizen of America be eroded you know or evaporate a completely overnight and and just to restate like the foundational principle of the country you have a right it God given right not granted you by government

but with what you were born to have any opinion you want to follow your own conscience you don't have a right to do anything you want but you have a right to believe anything you want and to say anything

that you want that you believe is true period and so I'm not pro-eran I've never been to Iran and

I'm certainly not an anti-Semite at all however any American has the right to preferences and beliefs religious beliefs philosophical beliefs political beliefs those are absolute right so these are human rights

“that's what human rights are and so you can never prosecute someone for having views you disagree”

with period and I do think we have to stand up for that above all else right especially in wartime and wartime more important than ever and you know again I I watched this happen with Iraq I watched this happen with Afghanistan I've read too much about it from Vietnam from World War 1 from World War 2 from the Civil War and I literally based my entire career trying to say

this will never happen or if any if I have anything to do with it it won't happen again and then

it didn't happen again and so then we have to set up for the next playbook is okay we know that they're coming we know they're coming so we have to plan for that the only way to plan for that is to get the people who are on our side because fundamentally you know it's again it's not about us it's about even it's really about smaller private individuals who have literally the fundamental right to say they're whatever they want and to that for them to be harassed we have to protect

that more than anything yeah I don't know what's coming next but I know that you're going to be at the center of it and I know you will understand it before most people so I hope that you will come back I really mean that anytime time to grateful for this thank you soccer and jetty great to thank you soccer and thank you for everything that you do and for giving me my own start in this business I'll always be so deeply thankful man if I knew you were as smart as you

turned out to be I would have paid you more it's still been working here I would have liked that too I would like that thank you soccer great to see you