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Five riders left in the race. You know, no more GC ambitions and first opportunity for all ambitions they take it. Everybody welcome back to the move. Plus, I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johan Bernille. We are breaking down stage four of the year.

The Talia won by UAE's Jonathan Narveyes and incredible comeback from a terrible, vertebrae fracture that toured on under earlier this year.

This is his first race back. Can't say enough nice things about this performance. It was pretty incredible beat or or at least.

“Omar from Movistar in Julia, Chaconay from Little Trek, a stage that Johan, I honestly was surprised by. I thought would see just me entering through the beautifully beautiful southern Italian countryside.”

Wow, to be back in Italy, it popped off the screen today. I was shocked how much better it looked than the last few stages. But it was, it was difficult to see my teams were really worried about crosswinds because they had a long stretch along the coast.

The crosswinds never really materialized, but they went into the day's single climb and interesting course. I think I thought the course was poorly designed before this stage after this stage.

Actually pretty well designed because they had a 14 and a half kilometer climb, 6% about 35 kilometers from the finish line. I thought nothing would happen. Movistar thought differently. They went to the front absolutely blew the pellets on up, sent all this printers back. They're dropping back to benefit their sprinter Olar who seemed unbothered by the climb, really impressive flying from him. They also distanced Egan Bernal from Net company Nio's foreseen and net companies Nio's versatile spinner been turned to drop back to pay some further healthy Moves star. Movistar keeps driving to the finish line for luckily for Bernal dergi West had a mechanical. So he drops back.

He's in the Bernal group and they dropped back from the tail so burrow and that once he was back there, he closed the gap in three kilometers. It was pretty impressive. What he did, they go into the finish. Yon Christian from Nio a attacks with about a kilometer and a half remaining that forces Moves are to burn the rest of the delete out little check tape takes over on the front for Chicone. But there was not a lot of seasoned or fast sprinters left. So Olar jumps early 300 meters to go almost worked out for him, but Navarra was just too fast blue by everybody on that great looking colonago arrow bike and just smoked him for the sprint win.

And then Julia Chikonez and Chikonez. Since he got third on the stage picked up enough time on us as to take the maglio Rosa ahead of Yon Christian and Florian Stork who are now four seconds behind Chikone.

“Egan Bernal despite his, you would say sub par day is still ahead in the GC of the other GC riders in fourth place. Johan, what were your takeaways from the stage?”

Yes, Spencer, I mean, I was also surprised. I thought that this stage would play out differently, but this was not the idea of Moves star. I think Moves star was impressive today. You know, it's a long climb and the first five, six kilometers were just deepest around six and a half seven percent. So it's enough, it's long enough, mean those six seven, seven kilometers and about seven percent. You put all the majority of the sprinters in trouble. And on top of that they must have had and rightfully so a huge confidence in Luis Ola. What is he, what is he finished well?

That is a great question. I believe he is finished well. Yes. No, I think it's Ecuadorian. No, we're getting our stage, guys, mixed up because there's a Ecuadorian champion and not vice is Ecuadorian.

Okay, yeah. I mean it was a matter of South American, South American riders today first and second, but yeah, I mean that was impressive from Moves star and

Yeah, to see almost all these sprinters dropped, you know, Milan was that equal to one of the first ones to go, which was a bit of a surprise, but anyways, then we saw all money in trouble and many others. So Ola was actually the only real sprinter who was still there, I think.

the level he has to come back in three months, no racing after down under that huge crash that was really a bad crash.

“Three months preparing in Ecuador and he said, then come back and straight away actually, you know, from the first stages on, he was already up there.”

And then yeah, UAE meant turning it around five riders left in the race, you know, no more GC ambitions and first opportunity for all ambitions, they take it and they could actually have also had the big jersey because you know, Chris didn't do the late attack, he sprinted for bonuses, had those six bonus six seconds bonus, then, you know, if he if he stays away. He takes pink, but anyways, well, actually, you cornered up the pink jersey, thanks to the bonification, they run up the stake, because he got third in the stage, right.

So he got four seconds, and then you're ready, gets two seconds at the Red Bull calamity, yeah. So yeah, I mean, also nice for Chicona, you know, I mean, it's always nice to get the leaders jersey in a ground tour, but man, and for Italian, La Malia Rosa is something special. No, you could clearly see has, I mean, he didn't know he had to wait a little bit after the finish to know that he was in pink, and he said, yeah, he could not believe it. It's, it's, I mean, it's unique for Italian cyclists to wear the big jersey there, that's something that is something, you know, it's a sacred sacred jersey for them.

First day back in Italy, too, Italian and the Maglio Rosa, I mean, I'm looking it up right now, so he's never been, he's never had a grand tour at leadership jersey.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see, if the way he tour the fronts, 2010, there's a yellow jersey. What a crazy, put it crazy to a difference. Let's just talk about the 2019 tour for this podcast. I'll erase. But yes, big, big from Chicona, he's got to be very excited about that.

I mean, a much needed morale boost for little track as well.

“I think they're not going their way since the second month of the season, so second month of the year, first month of the season.”

So I'm sure they're excited about that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, but also Spencer. I mean, like, okay, now vice-min's the stage was clear he had the best legs, you know, it was, what was it? 35, 40 riders left.

Yes. It was all lined up, so, you know, it was basically it came down to the strength. I think, I think, or it's all out, launched to early, I think he went the 300 meters to go, which way too early, especially down a slightly uphill sprint. But, you know, he must have been incredibly strong because he still finished the second. And there was other riders on his wheel, who were not able to pass it.

So, our lot was really, he had great legs to date, and he looked on that climb when a lot of really, really good riders were swinging in the back of that group. He was sitting comfortably in second and third position.

It was never even in trouble.

So, yeah, I mean, really, really great race from movie star. It's been a while since we've seen them so dominant, and so it's so much confidence.

“Yes, and then, I mean, so, what do they say, wind and doubt lead it out, especially on an uphill sprint like that?”

Sometimes, if you're the fastest rider, even if it's too far, just go. Oftentimes, the biggest regret you'll have is I should have gone earlier. I liked it. I liked where he went. He didn't really have any other options, because John Christens attack forced movie star to burn.

I mean, they were doing a lot of work all day. They had nobody left. He had to go.

And what a one, if Narvias wasn't amazing, it wasn't there.

What did you think of John Christens attack? Yeah, I thought it worked out pretty well for Narvias. Perfectly, actually, and then Narvias said in the post race, and everybody said, "Yons is a strong kid, but he's got to learn how to race his bike." Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I don't disagree with that. You know, he's a bit of a loose cannon, John Christ. Definitely a huge talent, a big potential, you know, like he has this acceleration. But he was too early.

You know, was 1.5 kg go when he went. You could see also that, I mean, movie star ad worked very hard to get there. So they were definitely not going to give that away so easily. And it was actually Enrik Mas himself who kept the gap really close.

At least I haven't seen them do it.

It was all, it was Nelson Rodriguez and I know Rubio, I think, who were doing the majority of the work on that time. But so Enrik Mas kept it close and then, yeah, I mean, then it was Matios Oberero, who closed the last gap for chicken in. And advice could be advantage of it.

So now anyway, he was the strongest in the final advice. Great power. I mean, we've seen him already do unbelievable things, right? So it's sometimes in the classics. We've seen him follow, I still remember, man, when he was in Ayos,

following, following from the pool or one of those cobbled climbs. That was Jonathan Alvice. Five, six, six years ago probably. Then we all remember what he did in the tour.

“Remember that unbelievable pool, he did at the bottom of Otacampi.”

Swing almost dropped pogachar. You know, so the guy definitely has, you know, this quality potential for certain special things. Also two years ago. One of the only riders who beat Ogachar, men to men in the stage one of the zero years ago. You got the leaders jersey from pogachar.

Yeah.

Not many riders could say they've never done that.

But thinking the last three years, how many guys have beaten pogachar in a one-up situation like that. There's not many. Like, well, Bernard Narvias and Matthew Vanderpool. That might be it. I guess you want us to go to the tour de France later that year.

Shall we go? Yep. It's a very limited list. He's a great rider because he can win like today. It looks great.

But he can also outside of that. He can provide. He's good in stage races like winning stages in stage races. Good in the classics. Not many riders can do what can do that.

And he's also an indispensable teammate for GC contenders.

So he's occupying three roles in one.

You would think UAE would want to hold on to him. Do we want to talk about the rumors we've heard that he's leaving UAE? That I don't really understand. I've seen several reports already. So I think it must be true that he's actually going back to a comes from to now net company in AOS.

So he comes from there. What will he have been two years only at UAE? Yeah, two years. Yeah. Like a two year study abroad and now he's going home.

Yeah. Well, he listen. Definitely good for definitely good for net company in AOS. It's for sure going to be good for Narvias also because it's going to be an improved contract in my opinion. And probably probably have more opportunities for himself than at UAE.

Yeah, especially in the classics. Yeah.

“I mean, I liked his move to UAE because my theory was if you want to beat pagachar.”

The best place to be is the eye of the hurricane. So just be on the same team as pagachar and then sometimes you'll win. But I also think it's, you know, cool that he's going back. He's going to probably be a designated leader. He's designated leader at a lot of one day races.

No one's told me this. This is just my own thinking. If I was net company in AOS, I would also think you could go to Paul six hours and say, hey, you know, this guy tattooed pagachar is pretty good. He's one of a couple races.

You know, who's helped him win his biggest races? Narvias. Guess what team he's on now? Net company in AOS. Do you want to come join our team?

I would imagine that's that's pretty appealing to someone that wants to be a GC leader. Yeah. I don't think Paul six hours things that way though. He's got to think at some point. Yeah.

God. I've seen, I've just didn't interview him. You know, talking about the two of the friends. The guys, he's, you know, full guys in. He wants to go for GC.

You know, it's loudly, openly talking about podium. Kind of those are the ones. Yeah. And it's, you know, it's maybe going to happen. So he, uh, thinks that way yet keeps adding 20 watts to his FTP a month.

Cool. Pretty, he'll be on that podium with the two of our friends. Just so cut like the GC action from the day was obviously limited. I would just say quick notes. Visma.

You want us to win a guard? No notes on them. Wow. They were just in the right place all day. They lose local color.

“I remember before the start of the stage, he leaves, I guess complications due to crashes on”

its crash on stage two. They didn't miss a beat though. I mean, to me, if I was trying to win this race and I was not on Visma, I would have been a little despondent from today. Because just as they were just parked right where they needed to be,

Jonas looks incredible. They were, they were all there. They were all there. Yeah. I haven't counted if they were, but you know, there were so many yellow guys there.

Yeah. Wow. You know, I thought Red Bull Bora, hands girl looks pretty good. I mean, we should say Julia Chicone's sprints. Jonas went for the Red Bull kilometer sprint.

Didn't get it. Chicone get not Chicone.

Because the Pelazari gets second behind, young Kristen.

So he gets four seconds, right? Yeah. Four seconds. So he moves up. He's not four seconds in front of those guys.

“Obviously, I think that probably means nothing.”

Another grand scheme of things. But it just shows. He's strong. He's on the front foot. His team was there.

But when you think about a team like net company in yours, where they only had time and armsmen, who's a GC leader for them, Ben Turner and you can Bernal. At one point on that climb and then Bernal's dropped. And then there's suck with the really tough decision. What do we do with Ben Turner?

You're not going to send armsmen back. So you either leave Bernal alone, like flailing in the wind. That's not a great look for a GC guy. Even if we think maybe he has a limited GC ceiling, he might not win this race. Are you really going to just leave him there to fight for himself?

On stage four. So they send Ben Turner back. Ben Turner paces him back on. They actually look like they were kind of having hard time closing the gap. Intel Derek G West has a mechanical best thing that happened to net company.

And he was all day. He goes back.

And then they send Matteo Saburo back who did an incredible turn of work to close that gap.

But Johan, let's say you're a director of net company any of us for today's stage. What would you have done in that situation? Well, first of all, Spencer, I was surprised to see Bernal getting dropped there. That was not normal for him. You know, I mean, normally, but not even if he's, you know, people say,

Yeah, you know, he has problems that day after a rest day. It's possible. You know, even Bernal on the not very good day cannot get dropped from a group of 40 riders. But you're looking at everybody who is there. So I don't know, you might be sick.

That's another possibility. I agree, you know, it's, I mean, yeah, it was their only choice. They're only chance to let Ben Turner drop back. I mean, I saw the interview of Ben Turner. He was not happy.

Super disappointed.

“And, you know, I think it was, with reason to be disappointed,”

because if you see that he still finishes for the stage.

After all, the work he has done, and you know, they have to write so hard to get there. Yeah, so hard. And Ben Turner did the majority of the work there. So, yeah, they, they couldn't have done anything else. Spencer, they had to send Ben Turner back.

You know, you can't leave one of your two. I mean, I still think Bernal has a better pedigree in ground tours than Damon Harzman. So I don't know. I mean, maybe, also, we don't know what they know, right? I mean, if Bernal sick today and, you know, they think that he's going to get better.

Well, you can't just leave him out there by yourself. You know, Ben Turner was there, but, you know, there was no guarantee he was going to win the stage. So, to trade off, it's difficult decision to make. But I think they made the right decision. I think he wouldn't have won the stage.

I mean, I would respect or someone did think he would have won, but I thought otherwise was too fast. He was fast, but Ben, Ben Turner's strong man, Ben Turner won straight-up bunchprits in the Giro. I did it in the Vuelta. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like really in the Vuelta last year, yeah. And so this was a good finish for him.

But, yeah, I think he could have won, I think he could have won, but that's in hindsight, of course.

“In the moment you have to make that decision, you just have to think, you know, very calculate it and say,”

okay, we can't let Ega Bernal by himself here. We don't know, we're going to try to save the situation. So we don't win the stage, okay, fine, but, you know, at least we keep our options intact and then see tomorrow's another day. I fear, though, I fear for Bernal. If this happens today, we're going to talk about tomorrow's stage later on, but tomorrow is a very hard stage.

Very hard stage. And there's a very hard climb at the end, and if Bernal gets dropped, today, I think tomorrow's the same is going to happen, but he's not coming back tomorrow. Yeah, that's correct. I also fear for him tomorrow. I think though it's this simple, like if, so time and arrangement, guys looks to be on the form of his life, right?

Well, we're back in time and, well, time and arrangement chances are better if Egan Bernal's not he would have lost to your four minutes today. If they wouldn't have dropped, been turning back, that doesn't help time and arrangement at all. In fact, that hurts him. It helps him to have another writer up there in the GC.

We also know Bernal's not at a shape because he was second at tour of the Alps.

It looked great. It's looked great. And every race he's been in, he has fit that leaves best on the edge. That was what just two weeks ago. So you know he's not unfit. So this must be a bad patch or illness. I think as much as it hurts as much as it's to be frank, yeah, it would sting if you're Ben Turner.

He probably thinks he could have won the stage. He ruined his chance to win the stage.

“But I think you have to do it because who you don't know what's going to happen at the end of the week.”

Likely, as you say, might not be good, but you just cannot let someone, he would have lost minutes. Three minutes, basically, this early in the race. I think you have to keep him in the running as, you could also see some plays. You know, one of these like PlayStation cycling guys on Twitter being like, no, just leave him back there. But that also is a bad luck. Don't you think if you're just having you get Bernal.

You got to do that. I know. Not at this stage in the race, not after stage four, not before. You can't. Plus listen, at the end of the day, you also have to respect the pancreas of a rider like Bernal. You know, let's not forget that this is a tour de France winner, a Giro winner. A guy who is extremely respected within the team.

And, you know, I've also read some reports, for example, that, I mean, I think Bernal has renewed, right? But emails, I read the same thing. It's not official, but I've also seen rumors that Ben Turner has not renewed and is looking elsewhere.

“So, you know, all these things come into play, whether we like it or not, that just plays a role.”

Because at the end of the day, of course, Ben Turner was to win a stage in the Giro.

For, you know, your personal Palmaris as a rider like Bernal Turner, that's incredible to win a stage in the ground tour.

Does it make a difference for emails? Doesn't make a difference at all. You know, they've won seven, eight or nine or ten grand tours already. So, you know, it doesn't make a difference if they've got a win a Giro stage or not. So, I think they, for me, it was a right call. Yeah, I can definitely see that. I understand, I could understand of Ben Turner is listening to this thing.

You guys don't know what you're talking about. I would have wanted. I totally get it, but I think they had to make that call. It's as difficult as it is. Then they, what did they win? I was thinking about the suit. I did team sky wins seven tours in seven tours in eight years with four different riders.

Is that right? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven tours in four years with one, two, three, four different riders. That's pretty impressive. Think about it. Through, through, through, through, through, through, through Thomas Bradley Wiggins. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, Bradley Wiggins. Yeah, he was the first one.

“Yeah, that guy, remember that guy Bradley Wiggins.”

So, yeah, they probably, yeah, you're right. It's not moving the needle, winning a stage four. It's nice as that would have been, that's not ultimately what they're here for. In the, you know, in the, for the pedigree and the history of the team, it makes no difference. But, you know, you have to, you have to respect your leader or one of your leaders.

Yeah, and while we're on the topic, tomorrow, tomorrow is different. Tomorrow is, but now gets dropped on that steep climb. Anyways, tomorrow, but Turner is also not going to make it over that climb. Well, I think the bigger issue about today, well, the biggest issue is over now. Like, I should say that.

But another big issue is the fact that Ben Turner was the only non leader in that group. Especially when he said, "Visma had pretty much their whole team up there." Well, other writers, for example, I would at least have expected Magnus Sheffield to be there. Yeah, or Jack Hague. Or Jack Hague, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, listen, Philly Pogano, okay, you can say, yeah. For you know, it's, it's, it was not, it's not a hard climb. It was too fast, so great, you know. But yeah, Jack Hague and Magnus Sheffield should have been there before Ben Turner. Yeah, obviously.

It's not a reason for Ben Turner to be frustrated because the fact that he was there means that he has incredible form.

So like incredible man. He's, it's interview, I mean, initially, his interview was like he was emotionally was, and then he kind of realized that he was being too negative. And, you know, he kind of corrected himself and said, you know, yeah, it was normal to stay with Ben Turner.

But that was after first he voiced his initial emotional frustration of not having the chance to go for the statement.

I mean, it is the right of a life of a lifetime. Like what he did was so impressive and then no one will remember it because he was fourth, but if you really think about a sprinter being in that group, not only being in that group, dropping back to help their GC leader doing a ton of work. The, the climb Crescent with 35ish K to go 40 K to go and he basically pulled until 16 K to go, which is when they got back on. And then he was he was gasped like he was, he was at the back from 16 K to go to 8 K to go and then only then he started to move up.

So what he did was super impressive.

“Unfortunately, he's not going to have anything, but the memory, he'll have our respect to you on and that's really what matters.”

Good job been Turner, we respect you. Let's take a quick break and then we'll talk about tomorrow's stage. Okay, Johan, do you have any lingering thoughts? I could, I probably cut you off too early. Did you have any lingering thoughts? I mean, it was kind of, you know, the writing was on the wall, Arnold Lee abandoned sick did not recover. You know, he got, you know, he got sick after that race in Belgium, together with a few other teammates. They tried everything to get him to the start, but you know, it was clear from the start. He was struggling.

They did not recover. You can't recover in a grant to her. And so we abandoned also a Caden Groves had to abandon consequences of the crash on stage one, I think. So yeah, Caden Groves crash on stage one. Yes, yeah, and the final probably was right on a pilot. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know, maybe he was in stage three also. He was also involved. I don't know. But, but yeah, I mean, that makes, it's, there's a lot of writers abandon already, man.

“Like, after four stages, I think we were already, probably 10 writers already are out of the race.”

Yeah, especially, did we already talk about this? Maybe this was off, Mike. But with you at UA, he loses three writers. They have five writers left and then today they win the stage and they almost get the leaders jersey. And then we've seen the significant portion of their team, including their G.C. later. So that's a pretty impressive recovery. Um, but yeah, I mean, Wilco Calderman, do you think him leaving is going to affect Christmas?

It's not good. You know, it's not good. I mean, especially since, in which I've always said, you know, like ground tours, they had, they, they should have sticked with, stuck with nine, with nine writers, you know, three weeks, nine writers. It's not easy. I mean, it's, you know, UA, three writers in one stage, they're down to five. I mean, do in a half weeks with five writers. That's, it's a long time, long time, you know, there's three, three empty spaces in the bus. There's three empty spaces at the dinner table.

“Uh, you have to send staff home, you know, because there's once one year too much, you know, there's, there's people, there's too many staff, or if you, if you lose three writers, there's too much staff.”

Well, they do that. You think, well, they send staff home, usually that's the case. Yeah. I guess, yeah, and then the staff gets extra rest. So, yeah, be bummer if you're swanny, you've blocked out the whole month. Sorry, you're going home.

That is a long way to go. Basically, a full grand tour with five writers, out, not fun.

I mean, you'll see, I think there was a year where Jacob had like two or three writers left by the end of, might have been this year to tell you. That would be hard for morale, I feel like it happens a lot in the Vuelta, you know, in the Vuelta, it's the third round tour, the end of the season. I mean, French teams, typically French teams, you know, writers who don't want to be there. Some guys finish with two writers. So, yeah, that's, that must be hard. So, tomorrow, we have another 200-plus kilometer stage. So, this will be our second one in five days.

We're going to put tensa, still southern Italy. I thought, man, I don't want to be ranganombo, Gary, it's too much. Holy smokes. Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever we are, whatever they paid for this geodotai is worth it. Because I was watching the stage again, I would go on vacation in any of these spots where they are writing through.

200 and three kilometers, a lot of climbing. So, we started on a categorized climb, a third cat climb, then we kind of go through a saddle. It's just exactly what it looks like on the profile.

And then a second cat climb, the red bull, it's kind of rolling spiky terrain, red bull, time bonus sprint, descent down, and then a 12% average climb, I believe. And then they descend down to the finish. It's not even categorized though. So, it's going to sneak up, probably sneak up on people, maybe not. Well, you know, it's 10, 9.2% average 12% maximum, but it has multiple kilometers above 10% average. So, really hard clubs at the finish.

Yeah, the uncategorized one.

Oh, the uncategorized climb. Because the, the categorized climb, the second climb, it's that's 6.6.

So, it's at 9.5%. OK, that's, sorry, that's the one I was looking at. That has multiple kilometers over 10% average. So, you know, it's, it's 48k to the finish, but of those 48k, there's a lot of, you know, rolling terrain. It's, there's not, there's not a straightaway, there's not a downhill straightaway. So, you know,

“you have to model the GC day, my name, my opinion. You're on us with a tack on that climb for sure.”

We're probably together by himself, then I don't see him stay away for 48kms, but, but, you know, it's going to be the same people we saw on that. What was it? Three kilometers a climb, you have a day on stage? Yeah, like three and a half kilometers. So, this is, this is longer and harder. Yeah, more than, I mean, 3,725k meters of elevation. That's, you know, that's a more amount of stage, in terms of elevation.

Yeah, the more as you see in my opinion.

I would say the only push back on that is, to we see our first big breakaway stage.

Yeah, breakaway could be, yeah. Although I, you know, the strength of Visma, I think I think Visma keeps it within reach. They're, they're super strong. And Jonas wins it, attacks on the front of the climb. Who's unbelievable for once again is Victor Cup and Arts.

Dude. Victor Cup Arts is worth three or four riders, just him by himself.

“And yeah, I think Jonas goes for it at the moment.”

I got to say hand up just so people know I'm an idiot. When they sign, I didn't get it. I was like, what is, like, he's a, he's not going to win big time trials, but he's a time trialist, like, why are you doing this? And he has been, he's, he's, he's talk about a professional, just shows up to every target race in great shape.

And what has been, he has transformed from a pure time trialist into a super dumbest equalist. You know, can do everything, basically he can go on breaks, he can ride on the flat. When he needs to, and when the, when some of the climbers fail, who's there, Victor Cup Arts as the last man's standing. We saw this in the tour de France. So yeah, I mean, Chapel to him, he's, yeah, he, any team wants Victor Cup Arts.

And then from what I see on social media, he's really good for the atmosphere of the audience in the buff also. Funny, yeah. Yeah. He's kind of a content machine too. He's very, he also, I, I remember too, I thought he was bouncing around a little bit.

“I remember it, I think he got re-signed by lotto, but it wasn't a big contract.”

And it was like a one year deal. And then now, in addition to all the work, he's very handy in the Peloton. He's the one who brought Jonas around for the sprint today.

He's just always seems to be in the right place.

I mean, it has clearly studies, like he studies the sport a lot in kind of knows what's going to happen before it happens. The big. And the more I look at this G, these G, C standings, the thing that would make it a G, C, day and not a big break away day is someone like Julia or Chicone. I would probably pick from the break away, but he's leading the race. So he's not going to be in the break away.

Florian Stark, he's third overall, he's not going to be in the break away. I'm going to be in the break away. There's just too many guys who would be the motor to just for a break away to stay away on a day like tomorrow. They have to be really, really good also. I think I think, you know, I also also out of respect for the Maliero side of the big jersey. And being in Italian, I think little track will control the race tomorrow because there is a chance that you call it makes it.

And keep, it keeps the jersey. You know, if he makes it close enough over that steep climb, he can come back and it's a great finish for him. Oh yeah. It's slightly uphill. I could definitely see him being in pink.

He will, he will improve 10% over night with the morale of the big jersey. I mean, they'll be, I think not only will he hold the jersey and you and I both know he's not going to win this race. We know that well, but I think he'll hold the jersey and you're going to start. There'll be a whisper campaign of like, oh, jacone is he going to win this Euro. We've underestimated him for years.

I also think, yeah, here's answering me this question.

“So there's a prominent podcast who always says, you should never defend the jersey.”

It's stupid to defend the jersey. Screw respect. Why don't? Like, what is keeping a team from just being like, yeah, we're not going to work. Like, what do you mean by respect the jersey?

Because in this case, it does seem like they should. They have a lot to gain by defending it, right? Why would you not defend the jersey? Like, let's just say, Paul Mania, just an example. I don't want to throw him under the bus.

But Paul Mania, it's it is Benji. But I'm just going to use the example he used because it's a pretty good one. Paul Mania is stage two. Should suit our quick step work on that stage knowing they can't defend the jersey? No.

No. Okay. No. But in this case, it's different. You know what I mean?

Listen, there's a, there's a decent chance. Of course, listen, if Jonas is on another league, which he is, and tomorrow he has this, he's a mission then, then Jacob will probably, but you know what? I mean, this and Jacob was up there also on that line. He was not too far.

No. He was not too far away, you know? He's good on these types of climbs. Yeah. The moral is harder though.

The moral is harder. But it's 40 a.m. to the finish. So I would, if I'm track, little track, tomorrow. I mean, this and what else do they have to do? They're here to win stages with Milan, which for the moment is not working really well.

The moral is definitely not a Milan day. I would definitely try to keep the break away of the control and have my chance to still stay in pink. And also, you know, out of, not so much out of respect for the jersey, but out of respect for Jacob. Because Jacob is a very important rider on the track. He has had a good results himself.

He has been of incredible value for leaders already.

You know, give the guy a chance to at least, you know, hang on to pink for another day or a few days. Yeah. No.

“If there's a realistic scenario, in front of you, you have to try to defend the jersey.”

Yeah. I mean, not. Here, I'm not going to say yet. Who do you think is going to win the stage? Cool.

I think, but he died in the moral in his print. Well, it was the most fast in that sprint today. Yeah. It was what fifth on stage two. He's a good little sprinter.

He was also, he was in the break. He was in the break, not the break. The friend. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, when he felt also, when he felt, looks, you know, he has a strong finish. I think but it's odd he is stronger. How was when he felt now in GC? He's still up there. So he'll be in that.

He's got to be in the, he can't be in the break away. He is 7th in GC. 10 seconds down. Okay. So if he wins a stage, he theory could get the jersey.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm actually. No, no.

Yeah. Would have to be everyone in front of him would have to not only get no bonification at the Red Bull. Yeah. They would not get a bonification at the finish, which is unlike the.

Yeah. Yeah. So I think, I think Billy Jari is. Is my favorite for tomorrow. Hey, we do not have the odds in front of us.

They're not out yet. I think I independent. The odds could be really bad on this. But I wouldn't be shocked if Julio Chaconay wins. Just like he's got very fast spinner as we saw today.

Who was a third in a little mini sprint today.

“I think he smokes these GC guys if he's not dropped.”

Yeah. But he got, he will get dropped at one point on that line. But the question is how far from the finish this. You know, I find this he. Then also who is there with him to come back?

That's. Yeah. You know, today, today he had. What's his name? The guy who's there.

He's a bro. Mateo. Little. The moral probably won't be there. So little.

Darry G might be there. Darry G. But yeah, then yeah. I think I think 48k is too far away. I also thought today was going to be easy.

So what about what do I know? But I think 48k is too far from the finish. I'm not saying Jonas goes by himself and takes it.

Yeah. Go on. Not far and come back.

If he's calling in and you're.

And you're.

“I'm not saying I'm not saying Jonas goes by himself.”

And takes it. But you know, if you just see it. Yeah. If he's calling in and you're. And you're not together.

They're going to the finish. Yes. And then she called it wins. Maybe. I would not pick Jonas.

Because he just has. He would have. Yes. Maybe it's Felizarian. Well, yeah.

Well, that's a good.

“Because I mean, that's why Pelizar is a good pick for the win.”

Because he's so fast.

And he's probably not going to get dropped.

So. So if it's a GC group with the finish Pelizar is a very good pick. Yeah. I'm going to pick Chaconia, Joe, though, just for fun. Because I think I want to see him defend it.

I want to see this. I want to like, like, log as that. I want. Like, cycling off. You've noticed it.

Cycling has a hard time getting on the front of log as that.

The Dullisport. So I want to see Chaconia. Let's have another met Spencer.

“That's what he ought to call and showing up.”

Pink from top to toe tomorrow. It's not even on the board. It's going to be like minus 10,000 or something. That would be. I think I would rise to win in, you know, completely in pink.

Yeah. It's been glasses away. This is awesome. You can just, it's kind of like aliphally but the tours. So, you know, something like this builds and builds and.

Yeah. A writer of the Chaconia level can just become very high profile from it. So I think it'd be fun to see. I hope Chaconia wins tomorrow. I'm going to pick.

Yeah. Okay. Good. I'd thank you, Han. And we'll be back.

After tomorrow's stage. After tomorrow's great top stage. Okay. Speak the noise. Okay.