Who's this the plan to like hang back the first ten days as a source France a...
in Felix the German Shumper and but he wasn't there and all the other guys were there. Margo, Tessel, Roger and I answered that bottom of the climb and he's very strong and then
βhe's been there, bling it over to see who's fast and I think I've gone on it.β
So it's just, it's worked on perfect, like in terms of having the numbers there and then the different characteristics we were covered in all bases and it was great, yeah. There we are, all right we are back, welcome back to the MOOC podcast. I'm Lance Armstrong, joined by Sir Bradley Wiggins and Mr. Toofake, Georgeine Kappie, we have a man who might be down.
I have to use the Kenyan on my TMI, it's just, we hit, he has been icing his, something I must've heard about it.
I always get messed up and I've been, I don't know what it is, he's always a teeth,
because the teeth are, there's altitude of any effect, I don't know if the teeth look good in general. Yeah, they do. The man's got a bad, if there was any dentists floating around an asthma and call her out a police come help our man, he is, got problems.
We were talking about stage 13, said another way, I was just thinking about this Friday, the 13th. That's not for, you know, I land, where we go. Stage 13 from Doll to Belphahr, from Doll to Belphahr. Cool, very, very cool, incredible when from Marochmet.
βAnd I thought, just this, I mean, I think I also the winners here were just the people watching.β
I thought it was entertaining, but we were talking about it, I mean, I thought, look, there's been some of these days. They've been, you know, sort of, a bit of a snooze for us. I was entertained today. I mean, you have a day like this, 57 guys up the road, which we're going to get into,
just the dynamics of how that happens and how teams have to try to manage that. But I was entertained. Yeah, it was good. I think it was stages. We've been waiting for a strange stage, you know, with that climb towards the end of the stage,
long way to that first intermediate sprint, but some teams got seriously wrong today.
You could see the panic behind those guys riding to preserve whatever GC position they were trying to preserve, whether it was eighth to ninth to 12th pick up the big winner today on GC. But I thought it was really entertaining, and another fast stage as well, one of the fastest in history again.
Yeah, fourth fastest stage of all time, with a big climb, yeah, to 2000, 400 meters of vertical climbing, so for y'all who think in feet, that's over 8,000 feet of climbing the average speed, 49.99, 9,9 kilometers an hour, according to use fence or forced fastest stage in history. Wow.
Yeah. That must have been a lot of panic in the cars when you see a break wave, but was a 37 guys in a break wave, 20 guys behind like the amount of chatter chatter going on between the
βdirectors to the riders, the directors to other directors saying, who do you got in there?β
Do you guys in a work? Just total chaos. We were mentioning earlier, like, how do you let a break wave 57 guys go? It's not very common in the sort of friends. To me, it's sort of the responsibility of the team captains of the big teams.
Like, I know for us, like, we would never let a team break wave 57 guys go no matter
what. And it's there. There are teams captains responsibility to keep an eye on the guys you don't want up there. And like you said, a lot of teams makes a big mistake today.
Yeah. Yes, it's when I turned on the television and I saw that there were 57 guys at the road. I had to take a double take. Like, it was like, what?
But when it's happening, you know, in this happens, right? This happens every year. And if you're the team in the yellow jersey and you like breakaways to go. You want a group of 10, 15, 20. Now there were times when we like 25 go up the road and we got nervous.
If you, if you, if you can just imagine for a second, you're, you're in the race. The team cars behind you, Johanna and our situation was back there or any team director. He's having to try to figure out who is in the break. He's asking us who was up the road. Yeah.
And we're, you know, maybe we can name off 10 of those guys, but you can't see, like, it's strong out. There's people coming and going, you can't see the numbers, et cetera.
Then you're waiting for race radio to literally list off all the people in that
break. So in the case of today, they were listing off 57 names in those team directors or the person probably sitting in the passenger seat was just frantically writing down all of the numbers that are in a group and then trying to reconcile who they are, where they fit on GC, where they fit on the points classification or team GC, all of these things.
And they probably got a race radio, probably missed a number or two. So then they have to go back and say it again. By this time, they've got 30 seconds in there. 57 guys writing, I mean, it's, it's a, it's pandemonium when that happens. Yeah.
βAnd this happened the only time I'm in the time that I remember at the most was there wasβ
one stage. And of course, this was peak sort of postal telecom dual group went up the road. We could not figure out who was up there. John was not there, so we knew we were okay with regards to him. But the one other person on that day, a lot of guys on that team were worried about, but
especially a vinaigroff. And he made it in that break. And when we figured out that he was in that break, yeah, we freaked the fuck out. Now, fortunately, he got a flat and he came back to us and it relieved everything. Had he not flattered, oh my God, it would have changed the whole day.
It would probably would have changed the tour for us that year, so yeah, it's just kind of madness and, and, and, and you're just lost in those situations. Nonetheless, it was an exciting day. There was a Mimmatte Peterson had to make a huge effort to bridge across with the group of 20.
But I'm sure he had to do the run to the work because they all knew he was there for one reason with that point sprint.
βI mean, think about the effort, these guys are doing it for this point sprint.β
Now, this is insane. It's a stage of race. It's a stage within itself, and then they got to climb the last climb and it's, like, there's no rest days for anybody in this sort of thing. And in this particular stage, that sprint, the intermediate sprint was so late in the stage.
I said, it's a Spencer.
I thought, um, him getting across and being in that group and eventually getting second
in that sprint just barely beaten out. I mean, that might have been the effort of the tour for him to preserve and actually and hopefully when the green jersey had he not, and this guy's just, they take a pretty good chunk out of his lead. Yeah.
It was huge. Also, disaster class of a day for a little trek. This move goes, they're not in it. But it was, like, it's easy for us to sit here. They're going so fast, because Picac was there with a big portion of his team pulling.
Teams were pulling as hard as they could on the front seconds back and they couldn't close it down and then it just ballooned. But he had a little track misses the move, Patterson has to bridge up and then they have to pace all day, because Picac is up the road, like, not great actually. Tom, as you said, Brad, Tom Picac moves up into, at some point, at one point with about
20 K to go, he was second.
He had moved up into second to G.C. One of the stages was finished, he ends up for now, fourth on G.C. It kind of opens up the tour for him now. I mean, he had a big day today tomorrow, which we're going to talk about in the second half of the show, is very, very nasty.
But if you think about it, everybody had a big day, even the guys in the Peloton, the Peloton was maybe 40 guys, the group had it was a lot bigger than that, but nobody had a free ride today. Picac, he did, fortunately, have three teammates in there that did most of the works with Picac.
Yeah. Potentially, maybe, did as much work as the G.C. guys in the back, and got an eight minute cushion. He's back in the G.C., and I'm pretty sure they're not happy that he's right there amongst it, especially at the finish in third place in the world to last year.
Well, if you Tom Pitt got this morning, and you probably weren't thinking about potentially finishing on the podium of this tour. Now, tonight goes, the bed going, hey, I don't know. I mean, he's right here. Really, the last five days in this race is like, yeah, considering the crash, you know,
fairly serious crash. Yeah, right up.
βI think it's the loss we see of him either.β
No, I want you to see the momentum, start changing halfway through a grand tour. Usually keeps going in that, you know, that direction, so I think he's going to keep going. Is this position, or, you know, stay around there and shout out to Jake or Lulu, these guys
are, they always kind of manage to get a stage win.
I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't seem like, no, yeah, it's like they just wait until the biggest stage. Why not? Let's talk about the eight-sleep move of the day. Of course, eight-sleep, smart mattress cover, easily cools on top of any existing mattress.
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The move gets you three hour and 50 bucks off. So Bradley, move of the day, move of the day, um, Tom Peacock, yeah, I'll go ahead with
Tom Peacock.
Yeah, fair play. Yeah.
Watching his interviews in the morning, he always says, I want to try and get the break today.
That's the goal. He says, what he's going to do, and he does it. But Bradley and again, third on the stage today, he's putting some really good days together now.
βAnd coming of age, I think, the Tom now in this row, you know, and I think, like he said,β
I don't think GC would have been a huge goal for him coming into this race. Maybe a top 10, top 50, certainly a stage win was his priority. But now he's really putting himself in the mix for a podium spot because it's wide open. So a 30% of the peloton was in the break today. Wow.
She's funny as well, I was thinking, you know, when you have a group that size, how small the peloton fails, when you're riding on it. Yeah, I know. We now officially have 171 riders in the race, 57 more up the road. That is exactly 30% of the peloton.
I'm going to go with Maro Schmidt, I mean, finishing second last year, photo finish.
I think the same stage of this year, like day wise 11. We could just let him go, right around there, but like losing a tour of France stage by a photo finish, like you just lose sleep, and you cannot stop thinking about it. Probably for a whole year. And he's fast forward, what year later is in the same exact situation.
He mentioned it in his interview, how he thought about getting second place last year, and he didn't want to do it again. He started cramping with 4K to go, but just the resilience and composure he had in that sprint. Not worrying about Tim Williams coming back, super, super impressive, rider day for me.
But also his team. I mean, he had four guys total in the breakaway. They haven't done anything this whole tour of France, but clearly, in which we're about to find out, because Steve Cummins is joining us here in the second column. Hey, hotline.
βBut I think they had a plan, like today was their day, the first day of their tour of France.β
Spencer, let's share this one.
I came in and we were talking about it, and I had actually, I actually had Spencer rewind the race coverage, because I wanted to see exactly how that move of Marshmatt and to Hada went away. Of course, follow me here, they had 57 riders that went down to, I don't know, 20, then went down to call it 12 or 13 riders.
When you're in a group like that, and it's 20 kilometers to go, you're just kind of, it's just random, right? But somebody, it's very, very rare that those 12 or 13 or 14 guys are going to make it to the line. You just have to play your chances.
And so as we re-wounded, it was Maro Schmidt, who made that excel. It kind of a sneaky acceleration to Hada followed him, and there's just this hesitation. And as soon as it happened, as soon as they had 50 meters, I said, this is over. Like, these guys are going to play games in the back that won't get organized. But now it didn't end up being close to the finish, but it was Maro Schmidt, who made
the move, so I'm, obviously, won the stage. But I'm going to give him the move of the day for actually making the win and break wake up. Can I chime in on that? And don't, let's not forget that Maro Schmidt and Luke Platt were in that selection of
the top of the climb, but they had bling Matthews, 30 seconds behind. So they were in a very luxurious position that they didn't really want the break away. They prefer bling Matthews to come back because he's the fast kind of break. So they had the luxury of just like, we'll pull through, but we don't have to pull through hard because we have Michael Matthews in behind us.
And Maro Schmidt's mind is a lot less pressure. He's got very well represented in terms of the team team in that break away. And he took that chance and got a perfect move. I mean, the big brain move of the day would be the last 12 stages of J. Co. doing nothing. Because they've been saving their energy for today.
Well, actually we call it can we go ahead and call Steve and see if that's exactly what the plan was because he's ready for us.
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Oh, you ready to call. Yeah, do we have to, you know why don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. I see. Oh, come on. Here he is.
George, it has actually produced a special access. Yeah, it's on. Yeah. Yeah, it's on. It's going to fix it.
Steve O. George, are you on? Good. How are you? Congratulations.
Yeah, we can hear you perfect in your life with, uh, Sir Bradley Wachines and Lance Armstrong, Spencer. I mean, you know what I'm calling, you know what I'm calling this. You can, you can first. You can say what now.
I'll put it. No, please first. I'm, I'm, I'm calling this the Steve O. Cummins patented move because this is like so's your style of racing. This is what you did your whole career.
That was it. I got one question and I'll pass you to Sir Bradley on him. Who's this the plan to, like, hang back the first 10 days of the sort of France and then go all in the last week or. All right, we tried it for a day, but we just haven't been there and then when it comes
βoff, there's always a blast, so, um, that's why this is like, you know, I think, um, thisβ
when you're winning some massive on and on, you don't, uh, it's, uh, you know, you're
getting yourself to criticism and stuff, but now I think today, the boys did a amazing
job. We had five guys actually, we saw the stage, she's a pretty well, including Felix, the German champion, but he wasn't there and all the other guys were there. Margot, perfect, right, really, into the bottom of the clients and, uh, very strong and then have been there.
Being, you know, if she was fast enough, he could have gone on. So it's just, it's worked on, it's interesting, like, in terms of having the numbers there and then they could, they're different characteristics, we were confident in all these to do it's great, yeah. Yeah, Luke Plapples, looking really strong on the climb as well. In fact, I won the strongest guys on the climb. Yeah, he was good. Yeah, and he, he was just
hanging at the back the whole tour so far. I think, like, I just had a, today, he just went on and he got their podcasting. Okay, I'm going to pass you to Sir Bradley. Thanks, Steve. Steve, uh, Ben O'Connor was, um, back in the front, today was good to see him after the disappointing first part of the tour. He's really coming into his terrain now, this next part of the tour of France. How is he feeling as he, he's seen the best Ben O'Connor again?
Uh, hopefully, yeah, I'll be honest, he's been a bit frustrated, obviously, in the past
these stun and GC a lot and it was never the plan for him to do GC, can you have the plan
as soon as you see it, did you run? He was pretty good for 10 days and then he got sick and that, that, that, that didn't happen. That he's, you know, we're in the stage once in and to be honest, most of the teams have been picking up scraps a little bit from UAE.
βAnd he's found it hard because, um, the starts are so unpredictable on this. I think it'sβ
quite skill getting in these breakaways on flasks terrain like that. Today, you did a really good job there and there's an amazing job for this and you're so good. Yeah, I'm not, he's frustrated and physically. I'll be honest, I'm not sure he's that is the best climbing shape but still he's better. Conor is really strong and he can have an exceptional day like we've seen him last week and Wednesday, I'm afraid it's so bad at all now. We'll see the best
setting on here. And what did you make of today? 57 guys got the rope. Is there a lot of panic in the cars trying to get the numbers and seeing who's there? Yeah, I changed a lot now because, you know, you got this styling, the TV series, you only have a few seconds behind, so you see straight away and that's a good thing to tell. From our side, it wasn't really any panic.
Yeah, I've been narrowing up, I think you said you're different riders at the...
there, probably wasn't the best. We could've done with a few more, but then when the group was 20 behind, we had to say that was very good. But still I've been narrowing, there's still a good situation because the thing going on with the cock and the green jersey, we could just solve right off the back of that really. So I said, now I've got a really good ride into the climb which was perfect and then off the end there. Yeah, great. I'm good. Yeah,
I see you guys in the break way again tomorrow. I'm assuming it's so good luck. All right, thank you. See you guys. See you, bye bye. George, nice work. Nice work. We are well, got it. You'll got it, man. All we needed was a two-fake. People feel sorry for them, start calling in. We'll be back in two minutes and 32 seconds. And we are back, welcome back to the move podcast. Just some, I wanted to, you know, I wanted to just go back and touch on Mars
middle, but obviously incredible stage when very opportunistic, he made the race. And so he deserved to win the stage. This is, this is also not a panic hook and he's won a stage in the Jero in the past. This year, 2026 behind Paul Saceos was second and flesh will own damn good result.
Yeah, there's a guy who can write, right? And then again, Jago Lula, they just always managed to
βI loved hearing Cummins perspective, but you know, they just always managed to, I think thatβ
hurt a little frustration in his voice these first 10 days and also a little fear and dread about days to come, but doesn't matter. They got their stage today. They put the guys in the break. And while she might have played the card right, he had big talent, big, big, big, not a big Swiss Swiss. It's like a big person out, like he's a big celebrity in Switzerland. His big of a celebrity's a cyclist can be, but oh, really? Yeah, I don't know. So I was just like walking,
he's like TikTok dances. I feel like if he had a good big in Switzerland. What does he do? I don't know. I guess people, like, I mean, if you think about Switzerland, summer sports, how many global superstars do they have, especially with Federer retired? So I was like, I saw I'm getting interviewed for TV and there was, you know, it was like 25 TV cameras, a big crowd around in Switzerland. Okay. I mean, we were having actually randomly having breakfast in the same hotel room,
or same like hotel lobbyism. And my son was kind of like messing around with the J. Co. Breakfast table and pulled him away, but Schmidt was very nice. So I had a new tele on it. Yeah,
βwhat was that? A couple of weeks ago at Swiss Switzerland, but how about UAE today?β
Yeah, it gets two riders in that move, so they have spies up there. They know who's up there. And they don't have to do Jack, diddley all day. Dale, potato, potato, two good riders up there. Yeah. Yeah. I thought I did say it was a hard and hard stage. I think I would. Everybody was hard. Yeah. I'd be concerned if he came back. I said that was easy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, speaking of hard, we got, we got to look at stage 14. This is tomorrow's stage preview. This, this, my friends,
I don't know, it is a short stage, which we all know based on our history. A stage with just under 4,000 meters of climbing in a short stage in terms of total kilometers, 155 kilometers. That's just a a few notches blow 100 miles. And I think the thing that stands out for me outside of the obvious, what is that three category one climbs in a category two is that early point sprint. Yep. I mean,
that's going to be basically like a field sprint. We talked about yesterday. But then after that,
those guys get out of the way and then they got, I mean, Steve coming said it is like, I'm not sure luck as anything to do with tomorrow. Because even if a break goes on the flat, they're not going to get much time for that category one climb. You notice they do the same climb they didn't today. Yeah, someone else knows that. Yeah. That was tough. This is a great region, by the way. Beautiful region. And then do you guys this final climb to a lunchtime? They did this a couple of years ago and
tied it. Put got your one on that. Some of finish. There we go. Yeah. Here we go. Yeah. Do you think, though? I mean, this can be a big break. Launched out of that intermediate sprint? Well, yeah, but it's even if it's a big break at the bottom of that climb, like UA riding their slow tempo, can keep them within three minutes without even trying. So it just depends if Daddy wants to win the stage tomorrow. He can do what he want to do. Will want to.
βYeah, hard to predict with Daddy. I think they will. You think you're using your theory ofβ
getting as much time as possible where and when? Yeah. Why not? We're coming into the last week now. The race. Yeah. So we've got to rest a time trial. You know, he's got a nice buffer going into that time trial. Yeah. I guess if you're going to have a bigger buffer versus a smaller buffer, you choose a bigger one. Yeah. There's a bit of a down hill flat run in. So it's not the finish.
It's not on top, but doesn't matter. But I always think it kind of minimizes some of the activity
In action on a final climb.
Hard day. Really tough. I'm glad I'm not doing it. Really, like probably say the hardest day, the torso for our, I mean, with the profile lease. And so far, when we see Daddy go, nobody can match his acceleration. So we'll see if that continues. And we'll see how Tom, they're going to find out real fast. What kind of day Tom Pickack had today? No. I mean, you said it towards that everybody had a hard day, but there's no hiding tomorrow. And if I'm
βhim, again, I, I, I, I believe I'm right that this morning, he thought boy wouldn't be okay toβ
finish top 10. He's now got to start thinking. Maybe like, he also said in the post race interview that he knows he will lose, you know, not significant time, but we'll lose a good chunk
of time in the time trial. So he's got to figure out, look at me talk about podiums. I've never
wanted to tell you what this was. I was feeling like a lot easier. But it is open that part up. But for that team, a podium would be huge for a second division. And I'll say that if it's certainly a lot easier, mentally, when you're, maybe perhaps even more work in the breakway, but you're battling for the win as opposed to just hanging back in the peloton on the wheel all day, like, just trying to get to the finish line. That's harder, mentally. I think the guys that,
like, obviously probably not poker, but everybody else had a really tough day today, even in the peloton. Well, Spencer, it might be a second division team right now, but I know the man that
βthat owns that team are old friend, even. This guy's a winner. And so he's on his, this is movingβ
up into the right. It's not going to be long before this team is, is very competitive. When you walk through the paddock and you look at all the team bus setups, it's, you would point at that team and say, that's the team I want to be on. Yeah, that just looks awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I even got the pop out. Oh, yeah. He's led men to glory before. Yes. In other industries and in other facets of life, he's, he's got a plan. I have a little computer program here that tells me it
gives you a, it's a VVOM score, which is like the hardest, it's like the hardest. It's like a hard that score for each day today. It's a good time out. Yeah. VVOM. Yeah, just, it, like, co-lates all the information from the stage and then spits out a single number that rates it easier to hardest. And this is the hardest day of the race. Yeah. 83 versus an 82 back on stage six. Yeah, it's a day stage. Tomorrow's day tomorrow's day. Tomorrow's the stage. We're just, yeah. And then
βit only gets harder because in Sunday's 94. So that's, it's doing it without factoring an averageβ
speed, the dynamics of the race all of these. It's just on paper. Yeah. Okay. Well, there you go, George. Yeah. Did you didn't realize that your, your internal VVOM was dying? Yeah. Did you, when you said that I love you, this guy's out of his mind because we did the normal life. So got it. Let's be the
two-fake. Let's take some callers. Obviously, anybody can call in. The line is always open.
That number is 9707182736 obviously, that's plus one. 9707182736. Call us, leave us a message. We'll try to get your questions. Speaking of calls, we're going to do a quick call. But like, I didn't want to tell us quick brief story. Yesterday, I'm riding in the mountains, on these trails, I'm having a good ride, solar ride. And I wanted, I had a meeting at two o'clock. So I wanted to like think about how long this rest of this looper take. And then I started
thinking about other stuff. Like, kind of on these trails by myself, like nobody knows where I am. So like, I need to have like a plan. So I wanted to test my theory. Like, the one person in the world, I can't call my wife because she had no idea where I'd be. Can't call Wiggins. He wouldn't know where to be. There's no idea. I can call Lent. If I'm laying in the ditch, you know, like a bear attacks
me or mountain lion. My first call would be Lent. So I'm like, I'm going to test this theory out.
So call Lance, but please leave a voicemail. Did he even ring one time? So here I am. If hypothetically I'm laying in this ditch, you're screening my call. And you knew I wasn't by myself on the bike. I didn't know you were by yourself. But you know, from now on, I will, I may not be able to pick up, but I'll write right back and say, everything okay. It turns out I have another actually I have a real job. Yeah. This is just kind of a fun hobby. I thought you were on the golf course.
No, I wasn't on the golf. I was on zooms for next ventures. I was on with the whole team. By the way, you're one of our investors. So I in theory I was working for you. But noted. Okay, and I forgot for a bit. I call you between 11 30. Wouldn't I tell you something? Wouldn't that be some, and somebody just is, we're worried about it with a two thing. Could you imagine? Because we got mountain line here. Can you imagine if Georgian Capy got eight five mountain line on the mountain
bike, right? And we show up the next day and it's just, we're going, I, what, you know, we are so sorry. That, what would that, would we do the show would have to? We would have to, because it would be such a story. And then nation nations would be in mourning because their son would be gone.
That's right.
Because you didn't take off because I didn't take off the phone. You know, all the other,
βyou'd have a state funeral. That's right. Huge. That's right. But probably in Filly, right?β
Well, they'd have a second one. Simply. All right. Let's take a call. A caller number one. Yo, the move crew. They're mourning substance from Jackson Wyoming. And a question about what is the average tire whip on the tour these days? About a 28 millimeter. And also our guys still running tubulars, or they set up tubeless. Thanks again for the awesome coverage. Uh, look forward to the podcast, just as much as some of the stages. So thank you again. I mean, it's a great question. I mean,
that there's been so much evolution. And we touched on this the other day when we were talking about the speed of the stages and why, and I was frankly curious how why it's taken so long to set the fastest stage. I mentioned and I touched on wheel technology and tire technology. And you know, of course when we raised, they were very, very, very thin. And they were tubulars. Time trial tires were like, I don't know, 19. Yeah. Very, very thin air it up to 150 psi.
Now the guys are racing on. I'm assuming these are two. George, you know, you're the one has a team, uh, tubeless tires, tubeless 20 y to 30 mil. That's unbelievable. And low pressure. No. I was at a team camp this last winter. They were testing. It was a good team. A team that maybe is winning this tour of France 35 mil tires. They're on test on. Yeah. And what the theory, well, I guess there's the theory there is too fold with let's just use,
I mean, that that seems a little bit crazy. But hey, if they're testing it, it may happen. Let's just work off 35 mil tires. Like, so I guess the theory is too fold one for handling. You just have that much more rubber on the ground when you're handling in the corners.
And then I always was told early on when they started going wider, um, was that that front edge.
The very first thing that touches the air for this machine and the machine, of course, is the bicycle and the, and the human. The very first thing that touches the air is, is as we've now learned. The most important thing because that starts to spread the wind around the rest of the machine.
βIs that right? Yeah. So you mad, that's why they start going wider and wider outside of theβ
handling and the, and the rubber on the ground part. It just started pushing air around the bike and the rider for aerodynamics. Is that, is that the, is that the thinking? You must be part of it. And then I guess you shrink the clearance, which is like the bike in the wheel are almost, if you look at Taday's bike for rebate, there's like no clearance. But I think that's good for aerodynamics because then nothing's getting. It's not good for mud. It's only nothing gets on the tire. I don't know,
it didn't seem to be a problem and they weren't concerned about it. So I'd be curious. Well, I think it changed it up if it's going to be forecast is rain and it's going to be muddy, then perhaps you want more clearance because then that will be constantly rubbing on the, well, then your bike is more clearance I've ever seen on a bike. So then that must, yeah, it's complicated. Yeah, it's complicated. Yeah. It changes every day. Like depending on the
course, I mean, a lot of the white tires are also they, they're just more comfortable. Like, you don't absorb the bumps on the road as much as like more narrow tires and more air pressure.
And they're faster because we're never going airborne. Yeah. So to give dust to an answer,
what George, what do you think the average tire 20? So we think the average tire width for this
βentire peloton is 28. Yeah. 20 and 30. Yeah. I think that's what I have Dave. I just ride this shit.β
Oh, how wide are my tires? 30. 30. God, I am progressive. I'm an arrow. And there's no, there's no tubulars anymore, right? It's all tubeless. I mean, as far as I know all tubeless, yes, which is quite fast. Now, like, I don't really understand why, but it's very fast. Okay. All right. Good question. Call her number two. Hey, what's up? My name is Ryan from Fairfield Connecticut. Love the show. Calling to ask you all your thoughts on Oscar Onley, who obviously is not
in the toilet this year, but received so much attention. And last year's tour, including on the podcast. And I was wondering if you all could try and place Oscar Onley in his absence in the context of what you all have been from this year's tour with the new young riders and their performance and what you're stuck from the future. Thanks everybody. Good question. We did spend a lot of time talking about Oscar Onley. I'm not exactly clear. Was he injured? Yes, he was sick. Right, but he went
over. He went to any other cliff landed in a top of a tree, right? Okay. It was shredded to shoulder. Oh, yeah. He was riding quite well. He was really good. Yeah. He was because he'd had a challenge in season at the up to this point. Yeah, because he was like, he was going to take the lead a pair of knees. Yeah. He was in the lead crashed and then he came back, got sick and then he looked
really cool. So I think the changing of teams dragged on a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. And that always,
You know, he had a big change in his life last year, didn't he finish weighte...
big contract, big pressure and expectation that come with it. And he was just getting himself together before this tour of the Dove for Ney and then, you know, the accident happened. So it's a shame. He's not here because he would anticipate that he would be around that podium group that will battling, you know, the Remcos sex us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this tour, if I remember correctly,
it was, it was this really the second half of the tour. Maybe even the third week where we
started to, he started to really shine. And we did. We did. We started talking about him a lot. We, we have not had that happen this tour. Now, we're about to get into the meet of the tour. There may be another one of these. But yeah, it was, at the end of the season or even before that, there was soccer S in terms of it was almost felt like a transfer market. He's leaving a relatively small team. He's obviously going to any else, which feels like a home team in many ways for him.
But yeah, he, he, I didn't realize the crash was that bad. Yeah, it was not good. Could have been could have been a lot worse. Is it kind of thing you recover from? Yeah, just a shoulder, shoulder. I'm sorry, hitting a surgery with shoulder to raise my mind. He couldn't come back,
βyou know, it, it's better to get these 23, like, I think almost every year that goes by thatβ
surgery gets harder and harder to recover from. So it's good that he's got it now. But I, you know, if he does the vault, like, almost like, is that obviously, Nios is devastated. He's not here, but is that almost better for him as a writer? Yeah, essentially. Yeah, the vault suits him.
It does. Yeah. Have you hung with this guy? No, never met him. No. He, I mean, he, he came from nowhere.
It felt like he came from nowhere. Although he'd had some good results in the past, but, you know, super-tall it. Yeah. And was, and was, was, he amounted to the young age as that talent as well, back in the UK. Well, it's, he's the team that, that, that, that company has at the tour. And now, like, if we had a good Oscar, only, they'd actually, he'd have a really amazing support team. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Well, it's, it's a good thing to flag and, and, and, and pay attention to,
and that they're, we got to look, I mean, you, you would hope there's another one. There's another Oscar, Oscar, only, ask. Oh, who's person out there? Who's your pick for the Oscar, only award of 26? Yeah. Who's your award? Who's going to be the future? Pull such as. That's, you know, that's not surprising. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I would,
βbut you see, I think he's going to finish on the podium. I think he'll finish on the podium,β
you know, I was think like, one of you so or someone will be forced if I had to guess. Well, yeah. Yeah. It's still a tight battle. And a really good race. And we have a new contender as it's today as well. So. Well, yeah. Maybe Tom Pickle. Yeah. Oscar on leave. Now, 26. Yeah. Olympic champion. Yeah. I'm like double Olympic champion. Yeah. All right. Let's, it's time for our event. I'm trivia the day. Of course, like each and every day, answer
today's trivia question correctly. Get entered to, for your chance to win $5,000 credit towards a Bentham bike over your choice. Of course, uh, I'm, and I got a both here in Aspen. Actually, I came up with just my NS1 and I did this custom paint. Have you seen my custom paint on my hand? I have that one. Yeah. Have you seen my one? No. You haven't. All right. Okay. Because we, you know, I don't ride road bikes very much. But when I do, I love that NS1 and the
GS1, the gravel bike. These are all new models. All new versions. They are just lightning. The new NS1. So good. It's beautiful. Yeah. Absolutely beautiful. Beautiful. Let's see here. Yesterday's question, wait, this is, uh, is that old copy? That might be old copy. Now, but now, but it doesn't matter. You, you all got the answer right yesterday, because you have jet GPT, right? Today's question. Today's stage finished in Belfort home to a giant lion sculpture,
which I kept seeing on TV like below that fort or below the fort. Uh, this giant lion sculpture carved directly into a sandstone cliff. Fred, this is a good question. Yeah. This is a good one. Fred Reak August Bartoldi. Fred Reak August Bartoldi. The artist behind the statue is also responsible for one of the most recognizable landmarks in the world. What is that landmark? Good question. It's a good question. Head on over to ventumracing.com/themove to enter and when.
That's a good one. I think yesterday's question. I think I messed up on that sheet. It was when was the green jersey introduced? Do you guys know the answer to this question? I didn't
βknow it. No. 1953 for the 50th anniversary of the loss. Yeah. Yeah. That's what a great additionβ
about it. Who's sitting around thinking about that? They should get. They should get a beer. Beer's on them. Here's on me today. 1953 who who owned the race. Luzium Bobey won the race.
You've never who owned the race. Jackson Hark. Jackson Hark.
Has ASO always owned it?
I'm like in Henry, was he cool 10 race? The ground. Henry at all.
βWell we probably had the race in 1953. Wow. I did get a letter from his grandson once. Really.β
Yeah. It's pretty amazing. That's nice. Handwritten letter. The long handwritten letter.
I thought it was fake. Turns out it wasn't, but very, very special. Anyway. Very cool. Yeah.
βI was going to show it to you guys. I think we're done. I think we're good.β
Get ready for tomorrow according to the VVOM and Georgia Brain tomorrow is up until that point.
The hardest stage of the Tour de France. So say it prayer for everybody except that a poker
βchart because he'll be fine. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you all tomorrow.β
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