Jonas looked good at the show.
that he's done consecutive days. Yeah, that's simple. Yeah, we actually haven't really broken down his numbers in this tour. Like he's arguably probably doing better numbers than he ever has. So we did on the tour relay. Yeah, we would focus on director on his own record by what a lot a lot. I mean, did there was all the headlines were about taught a
setting the fastest time ever over the tour. I mean, well, Bingo Garke came over second. He had the previous best time.
I mean, he smashed his record as well. Welcome back to the move podcast. I am Lance Armstrong joined by Sir Bradley Wiggins, Mr. Georgetown Gappy, the Professor Spencer Martin. I will say just fair warning. Everybody, Mr. Wiggins is in one today. He's on a mood to, you know, he's he's he's a little snarky today. Bye. I mean, I just, you know, I love it. Like I get to sit here for I showed up late today. That's a
whole another reason. But when I did show up, I was like, oh, I hope he's like this on the show.
“Yeah, I love it. I mean, I think it's highly entertaining. Keep it up, man. All right. Thank you.”
You went for an early morning bike ride that I didn't do. I did George the text to me. Well,
did I not write you back last night? Well, you didn't write me back this morning either. What did text is about? No, last night we were like, what are we going to the gym? And then he hit hit hit me back this morning so they're going to go to the gym. And I said, Nessa, I think I'm going to sneak out for an early bike ride. I can't, I find it hard. I put so much into this show. Do any of the viewers see that as an invitation or it's just like a statement?
Hang on. I go for a bike lesson. I was being serious. And we are going to talk about the bike race bleer or not at some point. But I put so much into this show. It's I exert so much that afterwards there's just kind of this claps. Yes. And so it's hard for me to then rally like yesterday. I went home and shammyed up and went for a bike ride. I was like, ugh, I felt horrible. I thought I'm not doing that again. I see a flat day. I kind of was watching
when I was drinking my coffee. I'm like, you know what? I don't think I'm going to miss anything. I'm going to sneak out. I went to get an hour and 10 minutes. Just straight uphill. Straight down now. So road or mountain? Mountain bike. Where'd you go? Smoke. I went up Thai hack all, you know, top of buttermilk and then bombed down. Bandit trail. Was it a little bit less dusty because of the rain? The last day in time when there was super dust. Yeah, it was maybe a little better.
Yeah. Anyways, talking about stage 11, Alan. What did we do? Stage 11 from Vichy to Nivell, from Vichy to Nivell.
“What do you guys, I mean, is Alan is just in deep morning today. Oh, you must just be thinking about it.”
I think he's, because this boy like soccer, he's like a love soccer. He must be curled up in a fetal position. What happened? My man in Bobby. That was the beat down. Same thing happened in 2024 at Euro's where Spain knocks him out in the semis. I mean, that I don't know what I'm talking about, but apparently Spain's very good at possession and then France needs to have the ball to do what they do. So Spain can kind of lock them down by keeping the ball and apparently great defense as well.
Wow. Yeah. That was a big job said. However, today is a big one. My, in fact, that may be why he is just firing on all cylinders big day today. England versus Argentina. Yeah. Come on, England. We'll be at the house. Yeah. Watching that thing. Yeah. Huge rivalry. A huge. There's a lot of history in between these political as well. Yes. Well, people are trying to make it political. You see, the coach giving interviews this week saying it's just a football match. It's just a football match.
So that's the Argentine coach, by the way. But yeah, there was burning for interestingly on that source on social media. There was a lot of Argentine fans burning union jacks, which is not actually the right flag. But it's actually had a question about that. What I thought that I don't understand
how that. I don't know. I'm always like, okay, great Britain is playing somebody, but then there's
all these other, you know, we got whales, Scotland. I don't know. England. Which is confusing them, but then the Olympics, it's great Britain. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Well,
“stage 11, it first of all. And I think we have now confirmed this Spencer. The fastest stage”
in the history of the Tour de France has been confirmed. There was some debate. The previous fastest was 1999 stage one by Mario Chippelini. And I think we only went like 0.1.2 kilometers an hour faster, which is in our winner. Sort of guys, and y'all know if you watch this show, listen to the show, like we're horrible with names. It took us like five years
To figure out how to pronounce you know, this is last week.
I don't think I've gotten it there yet. But I'll all attempt it. Soren. Okay, here. Let's
“pull it up on the stage. Are on the screen here. Soren, what unscult. That's good. That's good.”
But, and if you're watching this show, help me, and if you're Scandinavian, I got, I got you the first
name, Soren. We know plenty of Sorens. What is that thing? The second? Is that two letters? Or is that one letter? It looks like a backwards A and E got married. So I don't know how that sounds. That's his brand. That's his brand. That's not a bad, but that's not a bad brand. What a race through no X though. Yellow jersey stage wins. Second in a stage. I mean, they can go home today and be happy. They could leave the tour. They could do nothing. I mean, they've had a
five-star tour. This is, you know, I mean, it's still a decent budget, but one of the smallest budgets in the tour. Yeah. You've had, got some flagged the other day from the organization for posting videos of them sleeping on the balcony. They did. Yeah, they got you know what, when the videos went viral. But, but coming out of the stage when I mean, that's good news for everybody. Look, let's see. At the fastest stage of any tour of France, what was going on there? The last
700 years. Probably the slowest part of the stage. That's really, which is actually a big reason why I saw a foreign one because he even said he was way too far back. The other race that he won was, I'm luck, I'm luck. I had the whole head woke, which is a very hard, you know, semi-classic race. And he won. He was a surprise winner. But he said the same exact thing. He was stuck far behind. And that's printing, you know, it sometimes is a lot of luck involved with printing. That
hole that he went through with about 150 meters ago. That normally never happened. That hole
will never open up like 350 meters. He went through it. It was essentially attack. It wasn't even a sprint. And had the luck of K's bowl being 20 meters at the road. So he got his draft. Is that on that for about half a second? Yeah. And that's all I needed to win that stage. I mean, that was a super impressive win, but also a lot of luck involved in that win. No, I mean, I mean, I mean, I think you mentioned this Spencer. He's at least 211 head
Volk. He was 205 pounds. I think he slummed down to 202 pounds. So that's that is that is mode. That is heavy for cyclists. One of the tallest riders in the peloton, but for you people that nerd out on Watts, you imagine the Watts that a 202 pound guy was putting out for 300, it would be. Oh, you even imagine yesterday trying to make a time cut. Huge difference. I got a mountain. Holy
“smokes. Also, if you claim, I got a lose weight. That's why I'm slow. So well, this guy's went into”
a stage at 202 pounds. So he's suck it up. Also. But did you guys remember stage 11 last year even a WX1 as well? Yeah. Yeah. All right, once again. Yeah. Another thing to point out to is, I guess he crashed yesterday. Yes. So he said he felt horrible in the beginning. I mean, that's that's another unique thing about a grand tour and a grand tour rider. He's like,
you don't always feel great, especially a lot of times. In fact, you don't feel great at the
start. And then you kind of work your way into it. And after 10 days of race and a tour to France, everybody's kind of in this zone where their body's going to perform in a race and do what he wants them to do. So he was surprised as anybody for the win. And Ben Wiggins wanted me to point out. Every sprint at this tour has come from behind, but Bradley is saying, it's just stalls out at the front. And like the winners are always coming from deep in the field. This seems like
a bit of an exception. He really took a risk. He, he, he, he, he, he, um, you know, and if you go back and watch the replay, watch that helicopter shot, I mean, he, he, he just sent it. He didn't hit his brakes. There was, there was a small gap, he, and he went. Are you still got to go? Like this is, this is, and they couldn't, I mean, look, I guess there's a world up the finish line as 30 meters further down the road. They probably come around. But yeah, but that's not where the finish line
was. And so, uh, that was a cool win. But if you, I feel like people don't assess risk correctly a lot of times because if he doesn't do it, he's not going to win anyway. So upside is the win, but if you don't do it, you're going to lose anyway. Well, it's not there. It's not so much to risk. It's like the fear. I mean, you'd have, he had no room. It was a base of the barricades and the rider and he could have, and he maybe had a couple of millimeters on each side. So there's a high
probability that's going to cause a crash, where he just took that chance. No fear didn't think about it and just saw, he saw that hole. Like the holes these spring or sea, uh, way bigger than like a normal average pro cyclist can see. You know, zero hesitation. Yeah, zero hesitation. Yeah,
“I mean, I remember you, you always asked me about the stage in 1993 and who were done my first stage.”
You came up with a bad idea. I came up on the barrier and I saw, and I came up with a pen色 or a perini coming over. I mean, I thought, oh, I don't know if I can make this. And I actually yelled. I just, I just made it, I just kind of yelled a little just so they could hear me and just startle in on startling. But, but just hesitate a little and he hesitated and I went, and I squeezed through the same thing today now. You're right. I mean, he's not hitting the brakes.
If that guy just keeps coming over, decides to come over, totally different.
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mobile kitchens, mobile dining rooms, cooling mattresses, generators. We need the hotel. As far
“up the generator, they should just start camping. I think we're going to show you the day. We're going to”
show you the day. I was going to go with one of the lead out guys today. But I've changed my mind. That's an inside joke. And I'm going to go with the winner of the day. Sorry I'm a galsky. Sorry I'm less gold. Just because they're the underdogs in this race and they
have been putting it to the rest of the peloton. They always take the chance inspired by Norwegian
Football. And of course, two of the whole shop dudes there, man. So yeah, I've got to go with you, Bradley, that that win was epic. The team has been riding super well together. Just see the culture and the vibe that team has going. And I think in today's day and age, when it's all about numbers and data, wearables and tracking everything. Like at some point, you got to have some fun along the way as well. And feel good about the people that you're racing bikes with. And you can see that
coming to fruition in this team. I'm going to piggyback off that George because yeah, they've been
“attacking randomly on sprints stages. I remember what are they doing. But it's building this mentality”
in the team. If we can do whatever we like. They were a world called Lossia. Yeah. Yeah. And so they they've really took it. And there's teams at this race that we won't mention their names, but they are doing f-all. Yeah. And so to see. I just bomb them. After Joey. That is. We're big budgets. This is a big budget. By the way, is anybody heard from Jimmy Casper? I was a little documentary about him or friends. Yeah. Yeah. It's to what he's up to now. He's a trained driver for SNCF.
Really? Yeah. Yeah. Fast to season. I'm not going to disagree with all of you all on over the day. I'm going to give it honourable mention, though, to Binyan Germet. He's just closing that gap in the race. Just mind just keep you folks that are looking for some other competition in this race that might be close. Yeah. And it was helped because Paterson, I'm sorry, Philipson, was relegated for whatever reason. We're still trying to figure that out.
Binyan Germet fifth. I mean, he's just there. And he's just there. Then the Green Jersey points are 44. Yeah. After the relegated that's after. Three nineteen to two seventy six. Yeah. This is the last tomorrow is the last real sprint stage. I guess after that, we're going to have so you're going to the Green Jersey is probably going to be some strategic. And Mads have been up until now, stronger on the climbing days where he can make these breakaways. If you say it's
favor for Mads right now, but yeah, only is some completely endowed if he if Binyan wins tomorrow. Then we have a conversation because it's yeah, they've just waited it. I'd listen to a little press conference on it, but they want to like restore the prestige to the sprint
the sprinters. And so if you win, you get a ton of points like significantly more than second
place. So yeah, worth noting Mads, Paterson did get 10th today. So he's not he's not missing out on points. He's getting some points. Yeah. Boy, one of those stages. I don't know. I don't go out. I wasn't there going fast. They were going really fast. Oh, yeah. Today's the front started in throughout the last stage before that was Johann stage or Jipo stage. Jipo stage. And I want to let's with after we take care of a little business. I do want to I just I'm so
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Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you look. Bikes are so much faster. Let's think about the things that are faster. And we all know that the athletes are way faster. The bikes are faster. They're more aerodynamic. The wheel technology, the rim technology, the tire technology, the width of the tire is going to tubeless tires, the apparel. I mean, think about 1999. Chipo was wearing, he might have spent
half the stage with his jersey unzipped. Yeah. Right. There were basically wearing skin suits now.
He did have the spinachy wheels, which were my fault. They're nice. They were. Not only that, there's no guesswork in the courses anymore. There's everybody's got the software in the vehicle. They know exactly how tough of the corners coming up, how steep the connect climb is, the which way to take on the roundabouts. The guesswork out of that is also not an equation. So I just kind of mind boggling. I mean, I think it's a fun thing to, I don't know.
“I mean, it just seems like it almost, it almost feels like you should sort of every year have”
some stage that is the clips that you're before. I mean, 27 years or something. Well, that's happened in Brue Bay several times in the last five six years. Yeah, that is in the one days. It is every years. I'm because he's by its hard to over over state how fast these bikes are, especially like the tires, the tires are so much faster. Yeah, that needs to be. Yeah. I mean, that was an outlier than 99 stage four. Like it's not like every stage of 99 was raised that fast. Do we
know if they had a tail? Well, we had a tail. We were there. Yeah. I don't remember. And I was there.
And by the way, the third fastest stage was it was Johan Bernille, our very own Johan Bernille
who won that stage. A lot are alone the whole day. I mean, ask Johan on your show, how the front did you do that? And Chipo thought he won that day when he crossed the line. He didn't know Johan was away. Yes. How are you? Johan said he asked what are you doing here? He thought he was
“just a random guy. It was my deal, Connie. That's fun. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Chipo, what do you know?”
Guys, you started attacking. Chipo will be there. I know we're going to go to a break or a curse. Like, um, guys, be attacking. Chipo had this line all the time. Say, oh, buy a fuga! Find a fuga!
I don't know.
Anyways, we'll be back in two minutes and 32 seconds. And we are back and we are plugged in.
“You plugged in? This is not, this is, except yesterday we had those issues with the”
uh, with the bathroom here, thanks to Mr. Hincapey. And Sir Bradley was not able to get up. Oh my, Liz. Liz is back. Liz was like, uh, gone yesterday. Yesterday, where they've been the day to blame Liz because she wasn't here. You know, but she's back. You have a good birthday party? Yeah. Great. She got it with everyone. Our ottoman are free ottoman. When people just hand out, you know, $1,000
Ottomans and nascing automobiles. I don't want this anymore. I'm gonna throw it away. The legit. It's like leather, like nice wood. So weird.
At first, I kind of thought this was, speaking of weird. I kind of thought this was weird.
George centered on our group chat yesterday. But I got to thinking about it. And it just, it just shows you the, the, the, the white, the sport has changed the levels that these teams are going to really to protect the riders and make, make this race as easy as possible. I mean, let's, let's, let's not pressure over it. This is the hardest morning event in the world. Barnot. I just don't, I don't think anything's close. Um, you know, we race the long time.
I can remember early days of swan years like you want your, you want your shamy wash, your shorts are just sinking and, uh, shampoo in the shower. Just go for it. Starts there. And then we got to wash me. Anyways, they're going now. We've talked about mattress covers.
“Look at what, um, I believe it was to catholic. This is to catholic. Look at, look at the prep that they”
have a dedicated staff for before the riders get to their hotel room. Okay, bringing in the custom mattress. The mattress I get, I understand the material. What happens after this is a whole new level. And these guys are going, it's a day before. So you get, they go to this. So they go to the day before. Okay, special pillows. Now he comes in with the backpack of disinfecting. They are disinfecting and wiping down
every single thing in their room. They have things on airplanes that make these bumps. So this is like a bomb. Like you put, like if your house had bugs or something, and they disinfect the room, they have the, and then obviously, let me make sense, doesn't it? It does make a perfect sense. Yeah. Yeah. It makes perfect sense. It breaks the question of why do they have to do this? Well, like his joke of it, you have a guy that goes in and cleans his room before it wimpled in.
I have a feeling you could have just probably read some more susceptible on. You know, you're racing for six hours daily, you have immune system, everything. I mean, we had mattresses, we had, um, air filter units, we had air condo units, and we'd bring it to sky. But I mean, you guys paved the way in 70 areas of the sport that we picked up at sky, you know,
U.S. positive one discovery was revolutionary in many ways, aerodynamics, all that sort of stuff.
What would you do anything because of the hotel rooms in your day? No. No bad covers, pillow, mattress. Nope. Just what was there? The mattress feels like that would be really important. mattresses is a new mattress. We had mattresses on HCC. Mmm. That's nice. Really? Yeah. Every night. They were like mattress covers. They were like, to cover the cover. The thick ones, but yeah, I mean, it was helpful. And if you're just listening to the show and you couldn't see this,
these guys are actually, they were bringing in actual mattresses. Yeah. To the hotel. I mean, they, there was part of the clip they showed them walk, two guys walking the mattress down the hallway. So if they're doing this today before, they having two nights in that. That's a good question. Maybe it's the afternoon before they arrive. Maybe it's a morning off with 9 a.m. Yeah. But then it does bait the question. Are they booking it for the day before how
“do you get into hotel room? Yeah, I'm warning. That's why I don't know.”
In this guy's, but they have plenty of time to their time to find it out. They get those tells. Yeah. I think I'm going to throw up six, seven p.m. every night. Yeah. But we were talking about it all fair. You know, it begs the question, the logistics of doing that every day. Yeah. And we saw some of the social media postrooms who know X where they're sleeping on the balcony, things like that. Just let the riders have
RVs. It would mix so much, which is not allowed on the tours. Yeah. Yeah. You guys try to do that with the routes. Well, yeah. David Browsford actually sleeps in his own RV in the car park of every hotel because he's staff. He's not a rider, but riders is not allowed. But I think one of the reasons for that is that every team won't have access to that. And then you start getting logistics of parking eight or nine RVs as well as the trucks. And if you've got three or four teams in the same
hotel, you can imagine, you know, wait, you put these things. Yeah. They're big. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got a lot of points. And then I guess from a whereabouts point of view. Yeah.
Yeah.
There's ways that that should not ever be the reason. Right. There's ways to locate these riders. Yeah. Or you just have a point of contact that says, look, I'm looking for number 173. And that point has to know exactly what that's not, that's not a reason. I heard a whereabouts issue of a rider like snuck off to hook up with some and they couldn't find them. True story. True story. Well, you know what the great bear brim would said.
So hell with this. No. That's the second time I've said this in the middle of this tour. And
everybody's like, all right. Now, Lance, finally tell us. I ain't telling you. I mean, look it up. I can't say a lot of plenty of other bad things on the show. I'm not saying that. Let's look at stage 12. Another, this is I suppose we could debate whether or not this is
“the last day for sprinters. There's some folks that say, well, what about Paris?”
I think us collectively think that that is not a true sprint stage anymore with the new circuit. So here we are 180 kilometers. Probably still on the heat. This one looks lumpy, right? My, my, my, my screen here has it at almost 2000 meters of climb. And so just kind of all that, especially second half, just a little lumpy. Yeah, but again, that first intermediate sprint 45k, none of the fall stop. Very fast. I mean, really fast. I mean, today little trek let a smaller
move go like three or four riders have it as soon. They'll do the same here. That's a long way to control it with no, no break away. That's also adding to the speeds of this race. Yeah. Right. Which I guess is something they've done on purpose, is that? I, yeah, I don't know why actually, because they're shrinking the race. The race is shrinking. Like I looked at, but I just totaled time yesterday was like 36 hours. Like he's going to do this tour in
70 hours. Like what the hell's going on? What are you doing in last year? That's okay. I mean, I just remember, like off to top my head of rider has it all did the 2012 Euro in 93 hours. Something like that. Wow. So it's like almost 20 hours shorter. Yeah. Yeah. See, that's,
“it's just stuff like that. It's stuff to, to just like that. That's why we have”
Spencer here like you do how long. Who said that that is, but that's so weird that you're like, but you know, hang on a second, rider has to all took 93 hours. It was three weeks. I mean,
yes, but it's, but it makes sense, too. Like, but I never thought of that. Yes,
we were talking about the stage. Me in three and a half hours. It was three hours, right? Today, what was the exact time? I mean, closer to three. I mean, I was getting ready in the morning. It right when the race started. I was like, I got to get this. Yeah. I got a moment later. Well, the distance, the tool to shoot that two and a half thousand miles. So it was the three hour and three hour long stage today. Three ten. That's fast.
This and from Johan, by the way, that Philips in back and third today, and it was overturned. Whoa. Okay. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Thanks, Johan. Okay. So that that affects your mind, that affects your mind. Just a little woman. And just that now they go back to their original placeings. So brave protested the, uh, the relegation. Yeah. Okay. Good. Three thousand two hundred eighty nine kilometers would be the total.
“And, uh, time, the time, the time they did last year. They did last year. Let's check. What's it going to be?”
Services. It's going to be fast. 76 hours. 76 hours. Geez. You know what the long list to the front is putting time was? Oh, that's it. I don't know. What? 1926, 238 hours. God. Are you kidding? Oh, get out there. That is insane. But let's just say early. Do you wake up? What is that? So like 2008, everyone's favorite to it, right? 88 hours. You know, so it is shrinking quite a bit. I don't know. I, I, I, you know, I keep, uh,
so begging the crew here to, uh, one of these days have a discussion about, and y'all know if you've been a listener for years. Well, you know, I love talking, I just like talking about business. Um, and so I love talking about the business of cycling, the business of the tour. Um, I don't hate that. I, and I don't even think about the business of the tour. We're not going to get into it today because these guys were not very excited to do it.
But when you think about the business of tour and you think about the business of viewership, and that this is a media and and just content, I think it has to get shorter. Yeah. Right. And that is whether it's obviously riders getting faster, that's going to make it shorter. But uh, uh, this, this, the future generations are only going to watch shorter things. I'm going to say it's a good thing. Like my children, grandchildren, they're not, you know, but one of these days
we're going to get into it. I mean, this year, well, stages that are like two, they had a 250 kilometer long stage that nothing happened in. Yeah. So who is this for? It's not good content.
Well, back to the preview for tomorrow. I mean, Philipson has been been reinstated for third place.
And today was the first time he sprinted where he actually didn't really blow up with 200 meters ago. He was moving forward. Uh, so he's going to come out tomorrow firing lots of motivations.
Today we saw a vanipole attacking him, making him really hard in the beginnin...
I don't know if Lance was probably on his bike, but they had a kind of a different tactic today. But I
think tomorrow they'll go back all in on supporting Philipson, seeing him come back to his normal form. But he did get beat today. He did get beat. But he had to go, he kind of had to go early to taste that gap down. But he wasn't going backwards. Yeah, he wasn't going backwards. He was a reversing progress.
“Spencer, did you say there was a chance of rain tomorrow? Or was that in future, or after tomorrow?”
I think that's tomorrow. Chance of rain, which would really complicate. It's weird. Like the riders probably sick of being so hot. And those probably part of their day is like, man, could it just rain? Now we all know when it hasn't, when it's been hot,
and it hasn't rained. Well, the very worst thing you can have is the first hour of rain and just
get dry skates out. You saw them today sliding around in the breakaway? Yeah, it would have to be. Especially in this part of France, you know, all the goes into that, the the types of cars are driving on this road, the machinery, just dripping bad stuff. It's 50% chance of rain. I mean, well, and maybe you just split the difference and they get overcast. Give it a little relief. All right. As we have done, every day. I think it was every day, almost every day.
Anyways, call us. Send us, uh, leave us a voicemail, our number, the recline, 9707182736. George, you've actually, uh, you've done a call forward. You're not picking those up anymore. It's now going direct to Ben Wiggins. Yeah, Ben Wiggins. And he's he's sifting through him as we see. Yeah, Ben Wiggins has been here the whole time. I've been making routes for this can't talk about this. Yeah, I've been making routes for Ben. I love maps. I love fucking around with
straw, but I like to look going in there. I said, Ben said, I need, uh, you know, I got to do this ride. I said, stop. I got you. I was making these routes. And I send them the route, the GPS file on what's happening, puts it. And I'm, that, that has been one of the highlights of my July. I'm not kidding. He didn't love, he didn't, I don't know that he loved the first shot I gave him. Yes,
did he said that was in his top 10 rides of all toy. Okay. Well, that's amazing. You know what,
“that makes my day. You love maps more than anyone I know. Maybe you should take the tour”
right next to you. Uh, dear Mr. Prutam, I have an idea. Let me design the route. Click, uh, collar number one. Hey, guys, Steven Sacramento, love the show. Sorry to question with all the advances in technology. Why are the race radios quality skills to not be breaking up and pour with clarity and sometimes even drop? Yeah, it's a good question. George, you have a team now. I'm a student. Yeah, you guys are, well, I think it's safe to say that
most teams in the Paltz under buying these radios. Oh, yeah, we do. I am. And so I, I don't know when they're honestly. Yeah, that was Steve, right? From Jacob and Steven. That's a great, great question. Uh, the technology has not improved much at all from 20 years when we were using them. Uh, still super hard to understand what the riders are saying. Lots of times they're malfunctioning, lots of times like we saw with public charter changing radios. Great question. And maybe a good
business plan for some people out there to come over with a good radio communication in the bell time. Is it the case that there is a, I do see one of the team directors talking about when you lose race radio. Um, there's an aeroplane flying over the race, which is what the transmission
“bounces off of from each car. And I guess each, each car has its own ball on, doesn't it?”
That is, goes up for that. And I think it's the case that the race is moving across the country, whereas with Formula One, it's pretty close to these names, all in one, they're in one space. Plus riders around at 50, 60 kilometers there, aren't they? It's probably no commercial application. I can't imagine the total addressable market for a race radio. That's big. So there's probably not a lot of innovation. That's probably why. Yeah. Because it must be the same company that
makes every race radio. I was back on the day. Hence the reason the Johan could hack into all the other places. And speaks to the Klingel, which is an understanding to everybody. But they did it too. Yeah. They were hacking. Do we think that still happens, George? Yeah. No, I don't think so. I haven't seen it, you know, a long time. Well, it's, it is a good question, Steve. And it's also a controversial, the topic from time to time. I mean, you still have folks in cycling that
want to move towards banning race radio, banning power meters. I even heard recently banning computers, period. That there's a course of these folks. I sort of fall in the opposite camp. It's like, "Look, let's have them, but let's make them public." I love, I mean, if you think about
Auto racing, whether it's forming a one NASCAR, I mean, you love hearing in o...
saying to each other. Now, I know what you're going to say. You're going to say, "Well, then the other
teams would know how you're baking up a straight." I know, but it's, to me, and again, I'm going to go
“back to the C-word content. Yeah. You sickos content. I think it's great content. Yeah. It's an entertainment”
product. Like, so it's, yeah, I don't really care if the teams don't like it because we're here to entertain people, and make it more interesting. Yeah. All right, call number two. Hey, guys, Shirley from Central Iowa, you're just curious what you guys think with all the talk of Hionic's demeanor this year, and his performance at the core. One thing I haven't heard mentioned was the loss of his longtime trainer at the beginning of the year. How much do you guys think that
this is effecting him mentally, as well as physically this year? I love to hear what you guys think.
We love them all. Thank you. Since you probably followed that, I mean, I know, I mean, clearly, it didn't affect him. He, I mean, he rode incredibly well to Gerald. Oh, yeah. I mean, he was not even tested, but the VAM doesn't last like best power numbers of his life. Right, so physically he is performing, which means he was preparing, you know, for that race at least perfectly. I don't know. I mean, I don't, I don't follow the Cummins and go ends of trainers and you know, one
I did a show on it on the move plus catch us on the move plus win this happened over the winter, and it was Johan's view that it's not going to matter. Right. It's the guy right in the training plan and Jonas is Jonas. I will say, though, it is a trend that a lot of staff is leaving these months to go to a little red ball and sometimes UAE, but it's not like a great, like they used to have this guy at Marine Zaman who ran the strategy of the team. He left, you know, and then Gersha Niam
comes in and now he's leaving. And then you just like, you kind of worry when you see so many people like that, leaving a team like, do they not have the ability to financially compete? What exactly is going on there? But it looks like a financial thing doesn't it? Yeah, they get swamped, they get
“head hunting it by. In terms of performance though, I think Jonas looked good at the show. It's also”
it's four straight. It's the fourth straight-grant tour that he's done consecutive. Yeah, that's same small. Yeah, we actually haven't really broken down as numbers in this tour. Like he's arguably probably doing better numbers than he ever has. So we did on the tour Milley. Yeah, we would focus on director. He's on record by what? A lot. A lot. I mean, there was all the headlines were about taught a setting the fastest time ever over the tour Milley. Well, Bingo Garquimo
II and he had the previous best time. I mean, he smashed his record as well. Yeah. Yeah, be funny if this was the trainer calling in. Like if I go higher accent. I just think the central Ohio. Yeah, that is important. What is central? That's like one bit of Columbus. Columbus is dope. Yeah, good down. That's true. The show from Columbus. My wife and I have a great story
“about Columbus. Oh, tanya. That is it. That is a true story. How do we're not calling on the show?”
If you're at home watching, you know what I'm talking about? Call her number three. Have we got three colors in it? We have nothing else to talk about. We're going to take another color. Hi, my name is Lair and I'm in Flagstaff, Arizona. Curious, um, since we hear a lot about the physical training that goes into the tour, but we don't hear as much about the mental side. So, serious how each of you, um, trained your mind to stay focused, disciplined, and kind
of resilient over the three weeks of racing, especially on days when your body or confidence wasn't there. Thanks so much. It is actually, that's an excellent question. It really is. I'll take a little stab and then maybe fall off later. But, uh, look, in 2026, this is, you see, you know, it's been really been the last five plus years that the this conversation. And athletes have actually sort of, I wouldn't, maybe have even led the way when it comes to talking about mental health,
talking about mental health struggles. Um, you know, I've always thought of it as sort of mental
fitness, like how do we get this in the perfect place? Um, but, but it's, yeah, I mean, you could look at, I mean, we've talked about Jonas's article two on the rest day where he said, well, I thought about retiring. I mean, that, that's not a physical statement. That's a mental, to me, that's a mental statement. Like my head is not into this. I've my head wants to go do something else or be some girls. Um, and I don't know what, I'm sure, I mean, we just showed people disinfecting the rooms.
I'm sure these teams now have one R2 people on staff to help riders with the mental game. Yeah. Yeah, I did see it what someone talked about that the other day that they worked on at this winter
Seeing a psychologist.
physical game. Yeah, I can't remember who it was. But um, it's an interesting one. I mean,
for me, dealing with the tour, it was about familiarity. And, um, you know, making something familiar. So, so in that year, we knew that if we were going to lead the race at the Tour de France, some all the pressure that comes with leading the race, post-tour interviews, post-stage interviews, don't control, you know, handling the world's media while you're leading the race. And the question that came every day was, can you hold on to the eligibility? You know, familiarity. So,
I went to Paris and East that year, led for six days, went to the Tour de Romande, led for five days, went to the Dovenée, led for seven days. So, being in yellow, and everyone getting used to it, and understanding what the demands were after each stage in by leading, taking yellow, when we got
“to the Tour, it became familiar. So, that was the only way, but one thing I will say is with the”
altitude camps that was in between those races that year, missing kids birthday, missing family cases that there was in my mind, there was no way I would ever go back to a Tour again with that level of intensity. One was enough. Did you feel like that while you were in, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How about our adventure? I'll tackle it quick. We don't have one, but we should be getting one soon, hopefully, but it's a lot, I mean, some of the best athletes in the world, their
biggest issues are their self-doubt. And it's how do you control that, whether it's at night,
if you're wondering how am I going to perform tomorrow? For me, it was always about just not letting
doubt in, just like if there was coming in, you weren't allowed in, how to get a focus on something that was a time of success for me or a time of happiness. And that really helped not only rest and recover at night, but just wake up the next day feeling refreshed and just not lend doubt until that to my son all the time. Even when you won't need doubt, you'd won. But that was early on in my career. No, I don't think so. Look, and I'll just wrap it up here. I, you know,
for most of the or six of those seven years, I mean, my head, there was no doubt, like,
“and I was largely fueled, and I'm not promoting this. I'm not saying it's the best way to be”
fueled, but I was fueled by rage and anger and just like, "Dies, guys, want to take my lunch money?" Uh, you know, take my lunch money. I'll see in the park like, um, and we're going to go toe to toe. And, but, but, uh, I said six out of the seven. There was one out of those seven where I was convinced that they were going to take my lunch money. And there wasn't anybody on staff. And we had the usual staff that, that you knew you were comfortable with, but, but they weren't,
the role was not the, the some form of psychologist or therapist or sports therapist. So that fell on, and I, and I, and I'll point to George. I mean, we, we had fun with the story. I don't know. A few days ago, talking about the original iPod and me scrolling and finding music, but then that helps a little, but it, what helps a lot more is having your dog, right? Who in, I don't know, 2003 at that point was a, uh, you know, 15 plus year dog,
the just, just everyday, say, "Hey, man, today's the day." Right? And that was it, right? And, and then if it wasn't the day, then having my guy right there saying, "All right, well, let's reset and let's go
at it again tomorrow." Like, that, that was, that was my therapy, right? And then when it finally happened,
or finally looked like we got some breathing room, was that the most satisfying of all the tools, because it was more of a challenge. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, George could probably, I mean, he was an observer and in the closest observer and the most and the one who's observed all of them. Yeah, I mean, that that, uh, look, that this is, and, and I watched that day, right? And, you know, it's, it's, it's a job, right? And you're just, you're just going out and doing the job that you're paid to do. But,
oh, three, I didn't love it, but when it finally, you know, that loser did end stage and, and finally, we stopped them. You'll remember this day. I could have, uh, just taken the car or gotten off the mountain some other way, but I got down and we saw the team bus stopped the bus,
“I said stop the fucking bus. And I got on the bus, um, when I was like, how about these apples?”
It was, that was, there was no other stage, no. And in, in, in any of those years that felt like that, now, it's still had to get through the time trial, um, which I was nervous about, um, and that, in that, and I shouldn't, I shouldn't, uh, I should also not neglect Johann. I mean, look, the Johann was a master psychologist. That, that time trial, many people don't know. The finals, the final time trial in 2003, everybody was doing the math. Yon had gained X amount of time,
In the first time trial.
him to, uh, to beat me in the final time trial. And Johann, I think, I think I'm accurate on this.
“You should actually ask him on the show today's Spencer, but after one kilometer, Yon was six seconds”
up in one kilometer. Now, what is Johann saying on the radio? Hey, Lance, you're six seconds down after a kilometer. No, he doesn't. He changes everything. You're two seconds down. Right? And so he, he starts playing. He has, I cannot talk back. I'm, I just have an earpiece. I'm just listening. So I'm doing the math two seconds. Okay, two times, whatever. And he's then, he's playing the game with me, which is, he knows how to play better than anybody. Yeah. Interesting. And then, of course,
unfortunately, for Yon, he crashed. Um, but, and I heard that right away, he said down went down. And it rained that day. It was raining. And it rained very, very slippery. Yeah. And so anyhow, it's, it's, that was the year I needed the most here to summarize. That's your, I needed the most. And it really fell on George and Yon. So we, should we hug it out? Like what? Or to far gone? You know, when you do that, there's, I don't know. Yeah, you feel, I feel warm.
I feel warm too. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not being a bitch about it. I mean, I'm, I'm not a very
“good minute. I feel, I mean, I don't, I don't, that's why that was my favorite tour. I don't feel warm”
trying to pronounce the guy's name. The one stage. I don't feel warm showing the guy disinfecting the room, but these memories are real. Yeah. And don't forget that. And I mean it. And so, yeah, we can hug it out later, don't. All right. And I might even ride with you before this tour France. All right. Let's do it. Look, see, look at that. We made chicken salad out of chicken shit as they say in South Carolina. I haven't heard them say that, but I'll take it. Yo, remember
that balloon was never right. All right, thanks for tuning in everybody. What about Olivia? You know,
I was so, I got so warm and fuzzy. That's why you're here, Professor. Let's end with the Bentham trivia, right? You get, uh, you enter to win, uh, you get $5,000 credit towards your, uh, Bentham biker, your choice. Sunday's question, bestial day fell on stage nine from the board of the zone to gap in 2003. What iconic moment occurred during the crossing of the cold amounts? Answer. Armstrong wrote across a field cycle across style to avoid a high-speed
crash involving his main G.C. rival that year. You'll say, but look, that did happen. Wild. Do you guys remember who won that stage? The, you know, right? Yeah. You know, that was a great win. Uh, today's question, flat stage is like stage 11, our Sprinter's best friend, the best printer of all time,
“undeniably, I think, right? Mark Cavendish holds the all-time record for two to”
front stage wins. How many stage wins did he win over his career? Sir Bradley is like, I'm taking over the questions. You know, I'm trivially. The thing I remember most about that Balokki crash was the great Paul Sherwin's commentary that day. Yeah. My god, how that channel's gone downhill since he's gone legend. Yeah. Like, actually time, I don't know. Missy's voiced that we have. Well, he was, he was, he was, he was, that was, you know, in that day and age,
Batman and Robin, they were great. But Paul was, you know, we were with Paul's early days at Motorola. He was, he was the team press officer. Yeah. He said anybody has press officer. He was, anybody had a, he was our team PR person, except for the month of July, because he would have to go to the school or so we'd have a fill in, but he was such a lovely
man, such as, uh, yeah, he's incredible. Missy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so, uh, that is,
anyways, how many stages did Mark have in this win? Inner, uh, going over to ventroomracing.com/TheMove, to submit your question or your answer. Wow. We were all of the places that I'm proud of, but still proud of us for getting it to show. Yeah. All right. Thanks for tuning in everybody. Peter Mark.
