Yeah, what a rider man.
You know, Mrs. the Tour de France, after that crash, before the Dolphin A and, you know, gets back. In great shape, his 15th career stage in an underground tour also Spencer. He won one stage in the zero. This is his fourth stage in the Volta and this guy already won 10 stages in
“the Tour de France. That's what a rider. That's a lot of experience. I'm so happy for him.”
Everybody, welcome back to the Move Podcast. I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with the Onber Neo. We're breaking down stage 13 of the Volta Espania and previewing tomorrow's stage 14 with our outcomes stage preview. Well, we'll predict the winner and go through how the stage is going to play out. But today was won by Walton Art over Valentine's very puncture and his teammate
Matthew, not his teammate. Well, but our teammate Matthew Brennan in third from a breakaway.
Not as straightforward as a soundzeohan, as you can imagine to have two guys that fast get first and third, some crazy stuff happened. And it took a long time for this break to form. We didn't see it because it was an on TV, but when the TV coverage came on, we had one smaller move up the road with Matthew Brennan, not wild vinar. So not what I expected. And they were about a minute and a half ahead of a lot much larger chase group who was a few minutes ahead of the Peloton. One wrinkle was Matthias Schummers,
a seventh overall going into the day was in that chase group, which kept the leash pretty tight. You had some cage you riding back there. Movistar was pacing EF was pacing that cup and Anios was pacing. They did not want that gap to explode and Schummers had to become a GC thread. And then the two groups, as you'd expect, writers had some misgivings about pulling Matthew Brennan to
the finish line. That kind of makes sense. So that front group started to lose pace. The second
groups pulled the reel them in on the final climb. And then, wild vinar to Matthew Brennan went to work, just working over everyone in this group attacking it like, "Wow, what would attack? Did real them in? Brennan would counter attack? Did real him in? What would attack? Did real him in? Brennan would attack? Did real him in? And eventually, with 3.6K to go, Wild vinar launched its searing. A searing move, Kudos to Perry Pantra for getting on his wheel,
holds onto his wheel. They get into the sprint and it's not even close because Wild vinar weighs probably 50 pounds more than Valentine Perry Pantra. And wins the stage. It gets his first stage win of this race. I believe fourth career. Well, the stage win extends his points lead. Now, 224 to Matthew Brennan's 159 and second, and then gets a little bit closer to San Tuputrogo in the KOM classification, but Johan or move of the day is brought to you buy, brought
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top or the UA's using throughout this race and the entire year got to 8 sleep dot com slash the move for $350 off through this falta. Johan, what is your 8 sleep move of the day? Okay, well Spencer, first of all, thank you for running me through the stage because as you know, I'm here at a junior bike race in Kentucky, so I had to manage watching my son's race, watching the race on my phone, the valta stage, so I got some little bits and pieces, but you just
resume it perfectly. I think the outcome, you know, Spencer, the outcome, the performance of all one art and the stage when the way he won it is as my 8 sleep move of the day, he's, you know, he's so deserved the stage when I think I also saw an interview here with Brennan that says, you know, I had to pay him back, I had to pay him back for everything, has done already for me. So definitely move of the day off on art, the way he managed that break away the way he created
“the situation at the end, his sprint, and I think it's fair to say, Spencer, that you know,”
like in today's Peloton, I don't think you will find anybody in the Peloton teammates and not teammates who is not happy for what one art. This is a guy who works so hard and tries and tries, stage off the stage, you know, he's been in really all the break away, he could be in and then today
to really, you know, turn this around, do it in his favor, in the end, was, was, was, was incredible.
Not an easy stage, by the way, you know, 3,000, something 3,000 plus meters of climbing, they, as you say, I mean that the, the visual difference between him and Peloton, it was massive. Like, yeah, you know, when, when Peloton who's behind the wall of the night, you literally You cannot see him. You cannot see him exactly right. At first, when we had attacked, I did not see Perry Panscher with him.
I thought he was mine, so. Yeah. There was one time, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I Yeah, there was one time, I filled this closure. I was watching him on my phone, it was one time. They, you know, they switched back to old one art. That's okay. He's gone on with his going by himself. He's alone. You know, you couldn't see Perry Panscher's turn down. He was still there.
I mean, amazing move for him to be there with him.
You know, Mrs. the Tour de France, after that crash, before the Dolphin A and, you know, gets back in great shape. His 15th career stage in the ground tour also Spencer. He won one stage in the Giro. This is his fourth stage in the Vuelta and this guy already won 10 stages in the Tour de France.
“That's what a writer. That's what I'm so happy for him. I'm so happy for him. Yeah.”
Well, yeah, great. It's a great win. Big monkey off his back, right? And you could see when he attacked he is getting stronger as this race goes on.
That was a powerful attack. Is it was, it wasn't uphill. It was kind of rolling. Yeah. You have Kevin Vermarca chasing behind.
He's really strong. And while it was just pushing, you know, he's going like 77 can hours just pushing over these climbs rolling down of the sense so fast that he's blowing this gap out. Don't try to do that on your local group ride. I bet you can't do it. And I don't know how Perry Pondra stayed tucked into that slipstream pretty impressive. Yeah. This is this is big for the Vuelta. Yeah, but this is big for the for the world championships. He's getting fitter by today. Yeah, you can watch this for the shape. And also, I mean, first of all, I think I'm, I think, you know, we have to make it a little distinction.
You know, he's probably not getting better. You know, the thing is that Walt van Arte keeps performing at the same level where, you know, everybody's starting to get really tired now. You know, he's, he's probably putting out the same wats, but what was really telling was, this red bull guy was it was it fish, fish or black holes in there. Fin Fisher buck is really strong. I mean, yeah, and then, I mean, he, he exploded his legs like literally like he saw him go tried and you could see from the helicopter like big explosion.
I mean, Fin Fisher black is a really strong rider, you know, he just killed him.
Um, and this was not, I mean, and it was, it was the, or that was the third, the fourth, the fifth time that when I tried to go, right?
“It was not the first attempt. So you have to be really strong mind to be in that position being the favorite to win and then ride away with only quite a panther in your wheel, that's class super class.”
Do you want to try to name the top five riders in terms of Grand Tour stage wins racing right now? Huh. Well, definitely Pocachar. No, yeah, um, number two, he's in this race, ground ground two or stage wins. Yeah. Uh, pre-mus, pre-mus are athletes 22. It's yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Number three, I mean, Walt is going to be top five also, I think, with 15.
That current active right. He's top five. He's not number three. Number three, I just think best springer in the world.
“Sorry, I think who's the best springer in the world at winning?”
Is it fit ups and philipsen? Yeah, philipsen and then number four. Well, which is higher than you think, right? With all the back end of five. And who do you think number? Who do you think number five is? A sprinter or no, not sprinter, G. C. Not sprinter. G. C rider, currently active. Yeah, like very good G. C rider.
Jonas Jonas, Jonas wins more than you think, right? Yeah, I mean, think of all the stages. He won last year at the vault this year at the zero, you know, you can't forget about, but man, wow, fourth, fourth and active rider is in grand tour stage events with all that bad luck. That is really impressive. Yeah, and you got to be good for a long time to do that. Yeah, I think it's really great time for me. The most impressed I am in Vannart is how he
every time he managed to come back after a setback. It's crazy. You know, I can, like, the luck of the ankle this year. Exactly. Exactly. Broke the ankle in the cycle cross. Then had the crash before the dolphin E had this infection. Was it his elbow? I think it was his elbow, right? Yeah, it almost got sepsis. Yeah, I didn't make it to the tour. Just the guy just keeps going keen, grinding, comes back. Crazy. Crazy. Well, let's, let's take a quick break and then I want to
talk about the tactics of the, you know, it was, your son must be a happy boy today. He has
He doesn't know yet.
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on we're back, it's speaking to my son when he went to school, Matthew Brennan was in the breakaway and I was telling him, I was like, it's kind of an interesting situation. Like, it's a thought experiment come to life because you rarely have a sprinter. Rarely is the best sprinter in the race in the front group of a break on a stage with over 3,000 vertical meters of climbing. Starting on a cat one and I'm like, well, what does everyone do here? You know, there's
four, five of the riders up there. What's the move? Because you don't want to give up that position, but you obviously don't want to pull Brennan to the finish line. And then Brennan is in a great
“position, because he has a lot than our and I think Bruno Amarile in the group behind. So a couple”
different options there for him. I think that's, I'm not losing my mind, right? He's in this race. So, you know, he doesn't have to like over commit either. But what would you like, if you were in that group with Matthew Brennan at the front, what would you have done? Like, how would you have played that? I mean, listen, and they were in the ideal situation. You know, with these three guys already there, please strong riders. And with Brennan there, what do you want to do? You know,
it seems to me like on the on today's terrain also, at least from the little bits and pieces, I've seen that even guys in that group who are trying to put the herd on Brennan or try to attack him, they had no chance. He was like, Brennan is riding incredibly good uphill. Very strong, you know, it's, it's not like a sprinter than you can say, okay, you know, okay, and we'll wait until the next climb, we'll just drop him. There's no way. The guy just, I mean, it needs to be a real mountain
“pass for him to get dropped. So, there's not much they could do, man. I mean, I think the best,”
the best chance, actually, for to win the stage against those, in my opinion, against those Visma riders was actually that little group with Brennan in there, tried to keep that break ahead with Brennan in there and then try late attacks at the end. I think that was probably a better chance to win than having it come back together and have Brennan and Von Art taking turns attacks. Yeah. Yeah. So, I want to talk about this as contrary as it sounds, as contrary as it sounds,
I think, you know, with the eight riders in front with Brennan, them collaborating with Brennan to get a big enough gap that the group behind is not a threat anymore, was probably enhancing their chances to win the stage, then having both of them together in a bigger group. I think interesting, interesting. Yeah, that that makes a lot of sense, actually. And I'm glad I asked you, because I wouldn't have thought of that, but because once it was
those guys together, it's game over and then Kudos to Brian Smith on the, on the, on the comms on the race call, as soon as those two groups came together, he said, "Wow, Ben Art should not do not wait. He should attack immediately as they dissent finishes." And then that's exactly what happened. Brian was right on top of it all day. And then once, you know, once you're playing that game where you have wealth in Art attacking and then Matthew Brennan sitting in the group
behind following moves, I mean, realistically, what are you going to do? It's like Perry Pantra maximized his chances of winning. You got to get away with one of them and try to win them
Beat him in the sprint, but good luck beating either of those guys in a sprin...
well, Ben Art in a reduced, like he'll isolate you in these sprints that you saw at Rubey with
“Pagachari, he saw it here with Perry Pantra. The only riders that can stay with them are”
these tiny, like tiny climbers, and then you roast them in the sprint. So, not a lot of great options, yeah, your countrymen, you're no weed are, though, in fourth place, pretty good result on the day for him. Yeah, how's him presence? How about that? Yeah. And, and, and, and contesting the sprint against Matthew Brennan for third place, that was that was really the second place in the sprint. Yeah. Yeah, he's fast, you know, the guy's fast, you know, I mean, let's not, if you think back at
stage four in Amdora, he won that sprint, he was second behind Pagachari, he won that sprint from all those guys. Yeah, definitely also in this wealth, you know, discovering himself as a stage
racer, like a lot, a three week stage racer, he's never done this. As completely, you know,
forgotten about G.C., which apparently was from the beginning, his goal, he just happened to be in front
“in stage four, but straightaway, he said that he was not going for G.C., but to see him do this now”
in stage 13 is definitely very hopeful, you know, a young, super, young rider, also never done this race, it's kind of racing before. And to see him at this level after 13 stages is, yeah, very, very promising, but a future. And then just some G.C. cleanup for the day, you know, it's kind of interesting. We talked about, well, would with a little track chase, if a rider got into the breakaway, G.C. rider, well, they were the rider, which Gomez and it was kind of anti-climactic because everyone
behind treated it as a, like, the perfect logical way where it will, like, all off for some work, but I won't panic. And we won't just stare at Movistar and say, okay, Movistar, you close this down. It was, it was a communist atmosphere back there. Everyone shared the work, the job got done, and nobody came out as the loser, probably a little disappointing. I mean, Gomez acclaims, he got the time for free. So we can assume he wasn't working so hard up there. Yeah, it gets two minutes,
doesn't get any any places back. Now he is 33 seconds behind Yuckup, Ormesille and six, then he's about a minute behind us, currently in fifth. So he does get time. And if it's free time, that's good, right, free times better than pastly time. And then Spencer, I mean, you, you have, you've seen more from the stage today, but I saw these comments from Scale Mosa after the stage that he says that he was in the break, and some teams were not happy with it, mainly Enaus and Enaus and EF, no,
was Enaus and, um, I'm going to guess, oh, I mean, Enaus and Enaus Stana, by the accuses them of, no, it was in No Baranya. Yeah. And he accuses both of those teams of using, not very fair tactics in the back. Have you seen something? I mean, I haven't seen it. So I'm asking you what, what's going on there? That's a bit of a surprising state. I don't know what happened. I don't really know, but if you're going to try to imagine what would happen, you could, let's say you have a big
chase group like that, and Schummers isn't it? You know, maybe they were writing them off the back, they were letting gaps go, because you wouldn't. If you're in that company, Enaus, you're not excited about that. Like, so also with Bahrain, like you want him to be back in the peloton. I guess that he mentioned like blocking the road, and maybe they were trying to block him behind. Okay, but I don't know. Okay, so, okay, but that's maybe then that's maybe in the big group where
“Schummers was in, they were trying to block. I think that would be the best guess. That's probably,”
I mean, makes no sense to do this from the back, right? I mean, if they do that from the back, that makes no sense. So it's probably, okay, now I get it. It's maybe Enaus riders and Bahrain riders represented in that big chase group who was trying to slow down that group saw the two groups didn't merge together. Okay, that kind of makes sense. Yeah, I mean, listen, that's the way it goes, you know, sometimes it does. I mean, if he felt like they were basically blocking off the road,
you know, as long as they don't push anybody off the road, you know, that's the way it goes, right? I mean, there's only so much space. You see this many, many times when you go for exact in the classics, you see teams go to the front, they're all in the front and then once they're
in the crucial position, they block the road with the whole team and they make sure that they stay
in front on those tiny little roads and, you know, to a flander or those, those couple of classics. That's usual tactics. So, I mean, if you do this to prevent a group from coming back to the
League group, I don't think there's much that can be set about this.
picnic at the tour planners a few years ago where they go, going into a steep couple of climb, they went to the front and like slowed it to a walking pace. Everyone had the dismount and then try to do a tack off the front. That's different. That was ridiculous. That was ridiculous.
“What was that? I think that's stupid. It's like a lot of those dots. Yeah, I'm sure you're like,”
what if we did that? It was like, maybe think through that. They went to the front. They went so slow that in the back. They almost had to, you know, put their feet on the ground and then all of a sudden they just attacked full gas with the team and then I remember thinking by myself,
wait a second, for who exactly, for who are they doing this? Yeah. I mean, that would make sense
about what does the front and block the road and sent one rider or two riders across to the breakaway, which is blocking the road is, you can do it. It happens all the time. Any of us got to a tricky situation though, because they were probably blocking the road. Like, she comes up as the saying, and then Axel Lawrence slips out in a corner, a dry corner, but as Beau Homogra points out, these dry corners look very slippery. They look like wet corners. So he crashes out of that front
group and he's a good, like he's a good bet for the stage wind and then there and in the awkward position of wanting him back at the front, but also wanting Schummo's and not to get up the road. So that was a little tough for them. That probably helped Schummo's in the end, because I helped the two groups come back. Yeah, it's true. There's kind of a lot of crashes. You know, so I mean, after two weeks in the Vuelta, usually you know, crashes happen a lot in the
first few days because everybody's nervous. After two weeks, you know, normally the usual assumption
is that everybody knows already their place in the Peloton, they know. So it's true. There are more crashes than usual. We are, of course, in the South of Spain, it's super dry. It hasn't rained for a long time. The roads are dusty and probably also greasy sometimes. Combined that with whatever tires they're using nowadays to have the maximum performance. You know, let's go back to, for example, the Jiro, I re-found out that
some teams were riding the time-to-out tires in road stages on the wet roads. I don't know if this is the case also here, but you know, it's definitely something going on and then a couple of that no matter how you look at it, Spencer, the speeds, the speeds are so high now with the
“days that in a fraction of a second, you know, you're just on the floor. I think, I think Oscar only”
took a corner has no idea what happened and before he knew he was on the floor. Got back up, it seems that the roads are dusty there and slippery. So we do see surprisingly more crashes than usual. Then also the question is, Spencer, what kind of tires are they using? You know, we let's remind everybody that we saw in the Jiro that an apparently riders really like the time-to-out tires of a specific brand, especially because they also make them now in a proper diameter of 28 or 30.
Is that something that we have to look into and try to explain the crashes? I don't know. I remember Bahrain. They had this, they had what's his name, the guy was in the lead crashing and then UAE had several gas crashing and it was confirmed that they were on the continental time-to-out tires in the rain stages. So I would guess if they're using them in the rain stages, they're for sure going to use them in the dry stages too. Is that something? I don't know,
“I don't know what the reason is, but they seem to be more crashes than usual. Don't you think?”
Yeah, definitely. I mean, guys are, I will say anecdotally, guys are obsessed with lighter tires and in my opinion, tooth and of tires. I think at this point, if you're running the 28, you're not listening to the science, like, fatter is faster, but guys, they can't believe it. You know, so they run tooth and of tires and they're too light and, you know, I was riding around on the superbike on the TT tires, the CT tires, and I went down faster than I, like,
then I ever thought possible, you're on. I was on the ground before I knew what happened. Like, they definitely don't have as much grip as the regular CT tires and I would guess that is something to do with it. I don't know any. I don't know what specific tires any else is running
at this race. I would just, that would be my first guess if I had to guess.
Yeah. Yeah. I don't ride the TT tires, but they would say if we're not on TT tires, we can't make the break away because it's that competitive, like, the speeds are so high at the beginning of
The stage that you need, like, maximum rolling speed or you're not going to m...
they would say, probably. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not going to, I don't know. I already don't know. I mean, some of these guys, like, little trucks running, like, 32's thinking about going bigger. So you can definitely run pretty wide tires and be okay, but.
Are they running 32 tires for a little trick? I think I think Matt's better son is always on 32's.
Wow. I think I'll scope that out. I saw Gwen Simmons bike in a bike shop recently. And it looked like he was on, like, like, like, he looked like he was on, like, one of these intertubes you take out on a lake. It was like, this wide could not really highlight his tires.
“That's what I'm riding. I'm riding 32 tires. I think I find them big, but at the same time, they're”
unbelievably comfortable. Like for me, for me, my riding style is purely not like, you know, to do for pleasure and enjoyment. It's unbelievable how comfortable it is. Crazy. Yeah. I will, I ride 32's and they're really nice. And I have on one bike in V-Rams, which really spread the tires out and make them wider than they probably should be. But I was descending down to the studio for the move to a front. And I couldn't, I was going on comfortably fast, like,
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slash the move that's GUSTO.com/themove. Okay, Johan, we're back tomorrow. It's a stage 14 of the volta half over well over halfway through. Two thirds of the way through. 154 kilometers. So not that long, but we have like four, four thousand, three hundred meters of climbing. That's a lot of climbing and 154k. And a lot of that is in the last two thirds of the stage. And the last climb is 12k long, seven and a half percent, which sounds bad. But it's really like should be steeper than
that because the middle section is shallow. And then the last half is almost over 10% the entire time except for the flat final kilometer, which brings the average down. But how do you think this is going to play out? I think it's G.C. or break and who's going to win? I think G.C. Spencer, so it's you know, four thousand meters of climbing, 154k, a lot of relatively short. It's Sierra la la Pandera.
Sierra la Pandera is a famous climb.
in the Remco Vuelta, Roglic started to gain back time on Remco on this climb. If you look at the
“guys who have won, it's all pure climbers. So I think is G.C. Day. Sorry man, Enric Mas, Enric Mas is going to win”
the stage tomorrow. I think it's perfect for him and with that, you know, the last part is a little bit flat and it's off a little bit. But you know, those last three 4kometers are in the double digits, you know, nine and a half, 10, 11%. And what we have seen till now from Enric Mas is that he's the best climb. So I don't, I don't, I don't, I mean, unless, unless Primos still has a trick up his sleeve. And, you know, this is when he starts to come into action. Honestly, you know, going off
what I saw yesterday, I don't think so. I don't think, you know, Primos was hanging on. I mean, he was not getting dropped on purpose by phedic's goal. You know, one thing is not being able to make it take a pool. You could say, okay, maybe he's trying to save himself. But, you know,
getting dropped once and then the second time again, then make it back again. This is a big gap
from, you know, being in that situation. And towards being able to stay with Enric Mas and gaining time on him. So, so yeah, and tomorrow was one of the stages where actually with Primos needs to start take time on him, I have a little, little stack here, Spencer, in terms of time traveling, right? So Enric Mas is not 145 ahead of Primos rockets, right? So here's, I found this somewhere, I don't remember which account it was. Four time draws, I mean, relatively, like 30
kilometer time draws, 30 kilometer plus time draws between Primos and Enric Mas. There's one time in the Vuelta of 21, where Enric Mas lost 204 in a 34 kilometer time trial. Every other time fourth stage in Dolphin A, 2022, 32 kilometer time trial and Primos gained one minute 11 on Enric Mas. 2022 stage 10 of the Vuelta, 31 kilometer time trial, Primos gained one or four. And then last year stage five of the Tour de France, which is, Enric was not writing great
then, and a 33 kilometer time trial, Primos gained 138. So, of those four time draws is only one time, where when, where Primos gained more time than he's actually now behind. In the, in the GC,
“so Primos needs to start making up time, which I think is a big, pretty big difference between”
him not being able to follow the other guy for example, and being able to stay with Enric Mas and gain time on. And that's a big gap. It's not impossible, but honestly, I don't see it happening. What do you think? So, I agree with you. I thought the same thing. I don't know all these calculations is like, Primos is going to take 120 best case scenario. And I still think that's true. The best case scenario. So that he doesn't, no, it's too far back right now. Here, I also think there's something, sorry,
I dropped you. I, sorry to interrupt you Spencer. You know, I think what we have to take into account
is that as far as I remember, okay, we see these, we see these stats here, but I have never seen
an Enric Masso strong as he is now. So true, Enric Mas stays within a minute. I think of Primos. True. I mean, yeah, also my, yeah, my question would be, does he look strong because the others aren't strong? Like, as he always been this strong, and they're just not riding as good as they normally are. That would be, but if he go back to the, put got to our stage, he did a real event. So he must be doing, he must be going really well. But you have the TT on stage 18, stage
19, 20 and 21 are all really hard. So with theory, someone could take back a lot of time on the final three stages. You know, like, you don't necessarily have to take it now, but probably it
“would be a good idea if you wanted to win the overall, you should probably take in time on, yeah,”
on Moss back now. Like, you know, in theory, someone could lose, you look at stage 20, some of it could lose two minutes on that thing. I got brutal stage. Yeah, just like Tom DuMilanda. Yeah, you can. Yeah, um, probably won't happen. And the thing with with Enric Masso right now, Enric Masso here's the odds plus 300. This is for the stage for mile plus 300. We try to go plus
For 70 Christian Rodriguez plus 1600.
are plus 1800, Perry Pantra 2000, Richard Carepress, who won here the last time they're here plus 2000,
Prima's Roglic plus 2200. That's pretty good price for Enric Masso because Steve Clime,
“he's very fit and it's going to be very hot tomorrow. And he's good when it's steep and hot, right?”
So you'd think, yeah, probably a pre-probably an Enric Masso win. I would be, yeah, I'm just
sure. No, there's a break. Primos is going to find form. Yeah. Yes, that is a concern. I think it's either, it's either a breakaway or it's Enric Masso from the, if it's a race against the, amongst the
favorites, it's Enric Masso in my opinion, breakaway, you know, you don't know. I mean, the thing
is that if there's a breakaway and there will be a breakaway, it's going to be strong riders, going to be the same guys we have seen now the last few stages. Movistar doesn't care. Movistar
“is the breakaway makes it fine. It's not a problem. So I think Movistar is going to ride”
to let the breakaway go. It's up to the other teams to prevent that. So we'll see what happens. Well, it looks like we lost Yohan. He's once again in, in remote northern Spain with not the best Wi-Fi, but I think I think we got out of him what we needed. He thinks Enric Masso from the GZ group, probably the likely winner with a risk of breakaway because Movistar, as he said,
“not really any incentive for them to pull back, which makes me nervous, which, that's why I like”
the, or co-barata hedge, but trago plus four seven day, I guess would be a good one too, but why is he plus where seven he wouldn't barata beat. But trago done the last mountain stage. He's plus 2200. So I'm going to hedge and barata bet Enric Masso. That's that's my pick for tomorrow. Yohan thinks Enric Masso is unstoppable. If pretty much is going to take time back. He's got to do it tomorrow. We'll see what happens. I'm excited to see how it plays out, but we'll be back to break it
down right after the stage and then preview stage 15. So every so Yohan, thank you for joining us and everyone. Thank you for listening. We'll be back tomorrow. All right. Bye.
