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It was a big test, I think tomorrow is going to be a reflection of what we saw today.

“I think we learned two things, you know, that ending mass has the likes to react when, when Primoz attacked quite hard in the final.”

And, and number two is that, you know, the rivals of ending mass, they try, but they don't have the power left, you know, to make the difference as I said, you know. Usually, at the end of a tree week tour, they try, but they're not, they're not going anywhere. You know, like this attack from Primoz looked really good, you know, I mean, he looked strong, but at the end of the day, didn't drop anybody of his, the five guys.

Everybody, welcome back to the move podcast, I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johan, Bernal, we're breaking out stage 19 of the Volta, a Spaniard or La Volta, a Spania, as well as previewing tomorrow's stage 20, the last mountain stage before the final day in Granada. And we'll do our outcomes stage preview, Johan will give us pick on who's going to win.

“We did not get today's winner right though, Eddie Dumbar won, Penarello Q36.5,”

flexing big time, they get first with Eddie Dumbar, third with Thomas Glogg, fifth with Marcell,

Kim Kim Brewery, Kim Brewero, Kim never, Kim Brewery, Kim Brewero, Kim Brewery, Kim Brewery,

and then Spaniard, Santiago Blutrago, got second pretty thrilling final few kilometers, but try go attacks, look like he was clear and then Dunbar just, I mean, he measures that effort perfectly. Look like he wasn't going to catch him, I think even Brian Smith said he's not going to catch him, and then within like four seconds, we try to just look like his batteries ran out Dunbar just rips behind him, wins the stage. First win, Spaniard, there's a saying,

I mean, I don't know if you say that in English, but if I translate it from Spanish, the way Dunbar caught with Dragon, it's like he passed him at a speed that he took off the stickers

“of the bike. I've not heard that, but that is what it looked like. Yeah, that's how Spaniard”

actually says it. Let's let Kito Las Pengatinas. He took off the stickers of the bike of we travel and he passed him, but that's me. I was sorry. I was surprised, my stickers did not come off. They took off your stickers? Oh my, I was, they were cruising. It was humbling, but Dunbar's last three wins have come at the vault. His last win was 2024, stage 20 of the vault, Spania, and then before that, 2024, stage 11. So he's Mr. Walter. We should have seen this

coming. There was no indication that this was coming. He's been hurt for a long time, not on

form at this race, and then emerges on stage 19. And then his teammate Thomas Glogon, third,

also has been laid up for a long time at the injuries. They picked a great data come out, though it took a long time for the breakaway to form brutal fight for the breakaway TV coverage comes on. Let's say around 150k to go. So they've been racing for quite a while because it was a 210 kilometer long stage. The break was about 20 seconds off the front, Kevin Vermarca, smartly attacked up to it. His teammate Evo, Olivia, from the break, drop back, paste them up,

perfect, perfect execution there. But then we saw, since the break was it was too close. It was not good break management from Movistar, but what are you going to do if people want to get in the break? GC stuff started getting spicy, Richard Caripass attacked up to the break. His teammate Darren Rafferty was waiting for him, was pacing him. Actually, it was a pretty well-executed move. Two things went wrong. One, Darren Rafferty dropped his chain, had to get a neutral bike. That's

not good. Number two, DeCathlan. Movistar has almost no riders left. Moss is isolated with 85k to go. You think, well, this is perfect. DeCathlan says, don't worry. Don't worry. He didn't Rick Moss, we got you covered. They come to the front, do an impressive turn of work to real end Caripass. Once that happens, it kind of calms down. Whatever danger was there has gone. Movistar hits the front is pacing at a very reasonable pace. The gap gets up to around six minutes to the break.

And then at Red Bull, Johan, who you flagged might have issues today, because of their efforts yesterday. Outside of being dropped very early, they all catch back on. They were pacing on the final climb for Primus Ragocha at the front. They're pacing so slowly that the gap to the break is going the other way. The break is gaining time on the pellets on the Movistar for some reasons says, I have to think they got nervous that it was too slow, that it was going to cause attacks.

Movistar comes to the front and starts pacing harder. And then EF comes, and it's not the first time

this has happened. They pace really hard. And then Caripass does not attack. I don't quite know what that is about, but Primus Ragocha used the pace to attack himself. Didn't get away, but he tried.

I thought he looked like the best he's looked all race in the mountains. The attack doesn't drop anyone to yuck up Ormazell with a really impressive move, because he knew what could happen, what what happened, could happen. He gets away. He looks really strong. Oscar only doesn't panic though. Just kind of follows the pace in the group. They catch him. They drop him. He loses six seconds to only at the line. So now he's over a minute behind in the White Jersey, but what does he care? Because

it's all great for him because he's still six in the GC with a little time over seventh. And we didn't really see, we're not, not a huge GC day other than the mid stage, you know, the mid stage chaos, but Dumbar wins. Yohan, eight sleep, a sponsor in our move of the day.

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sure mattress cold or warm, whichever one you prefer. Go to eatsleep.com slash the move and use code the move for $350 off through the end of this wealth, which is coming up soon on Sunday. But Yohan, what was your eight sleep move of the day? Eight sleep move of the day Spencer is for sure. Eddie Dunbar. The way he, the way he won this stage, she's been trying already a few times to go in breakaways. Sometimes, you know, he made it into the right move and then got dropped. But today he was

he was on fire. I have to give him the move of the day for being there the way he won. You know, let's, let's not forget. As you said, two years ago, since he won a stage, same month, so last stage, actually day for day. I think stage 19 today, stage 22 years ago. And then if you look, you know, this year and he said it in his interview, you know, he was injured. He was three months without riding a bike. I did a little bit of research. So it's short, you know,

he, first of all, in Paris, he had a crash and he broke a rib. Three days later, he got hit by a

scooter in Monaco. You know, badly had a badly crushed slash broken ankle. So roughly he was two months in a boot and more than three months away from racing. So, you know, to catch up on that during the season, it's super, super difficult the way cycling the races are now. And you could see he was very emotional. It meant a lot. You know, it meant really a lot. It's must be super frustrating. You know, a guy who was brought into this team to be one of the performers and then if you can't

perform, do you do circumstances? Finally, put it off. That's a huge satisfaction. And yeah, definitely, and the way he caught up with with with trago was my pick for the day stage. But I have to be happy for for Eddie Dunbar, very well deserved stage win and move of the day.

Yeah, hard to disagree with that. I mean, yep, like amazing recovery from injury.

And I guess what we learned today, Johan, his class is class because is there anything from this race that would have made you pick Eddie Dunbar to win today's stage? No, no, I agree. No, I just like didn't see it. But, you know, he's not, maybe not getting better, but he's not degrading at the same rate as everybody else. So stage 19 rolls around it and he's fresh as a Daisy. Anything fancy Santiago, we trago could have done differently to keep this from happening.

“No, no, I think he went on the right moment. It was strong.”

Was on his way to the stage victory. You know, it's it. And Dunbar was just, I think stronger than expected in that last one and a half kilometer because, you know, initially, he got dropped from the trago. He couldn't close the gap. And it was actually Thomas Glowk who was trying to

bridge up and finally Dunbar had this, whatever, was it two minutes of like superpower?

And he just, you know, reel them in and then flew by him. A huge day for Pinarello, he threw 6.5. You know, second division team, they get a podium here last year become one of the first second division teams to podium at a grand tour. Since we could remember basically long time. And then now they hit, they win a stage and there's a lot of teams aren't going to win a stage at a grand tour this year. And not only that, they

get three guys in the top five, like just a really impressive showing from that. That's an impressive team performance, yeah, for sure. I mean, to have three guys in a break, like this, okay, they don't

“have anybody for GC. So, you know, they can kind of pick their stages. But, you man, you have to”

have to, you have to be so motivated to do that. To have three guys, let's let's not forget Spencer, everybody is dragging themselves to the finish right now. You know, it's been a hard

you know, they're just dead. You can see there's nothing left. And just to be in that break away with

“three guys was by the way, it was Groupama not in there with four guys. I think they had four guys in the”

break. Groupama. Yeah. That's your right. Yeah. I mean, they had bastion truncheon, truncheon in there. They got on a spring stage. Sprinter. Yeah. Yes. Pretty impressive, man. And also it's, but the, and Oliveta also Oliveta has also, I mean, not known to be like a mountain rider. No. He was in there also. And then again, I said it Spencer of, of, of, of line Kevin for Markerman. This guy has unbelievable legs in this

well, that he's been trying so many times. You know, there's always for some reason two or three

better climbers in the break away, but he's, uh, the fact that he's in there all the time. And tomorrow he's going to be there again, I think, uh, because the first part of the stage is a bit, it's a bit more, uh, I mean, easier to be in the break. Um, for Marka is, is, is on fire. He goes to the world, I hope he is going to the world. Okay. If they don't take, if they don't take him to the world, so that we, that would be, would have to step in. We had the move would be,

they're going to try to color his springs to talk to them. He is going to the world championships. Okay. Who's the, who's the guy who's, who's the guy selecting, uh, for the U.S. team. He used to be Jim Miller. I mean, he used to be one guy. I think it was Jim Miller. And then there was, there's, it didn't happen as much on the men's side, but the women's side that I was up lawsuits over the selection process. So they had to like change it to a committee, I think.

And they have always used to. They publish all these, you know, reasonings for why they do it

basically, we want to pick the team that is the best chance of, of meddling is, is, is what they say. Okay. Okay. And there's definitely been some controversy over this year's team. And you know, I'm just going to read it for everybody. So I don't get it wrong. So this is the United States team for World Championships. It is quincements. Hard argue. Yeah. Mateo Jorgensen, Brandon McNulty, McNulty, who won on the similar course at Montreal. Yeah. Nielsen Palace,

looks, come back to that one. Sean Quinn, Artem Schmid, who's going because he, think he ought to qualify for the time trial. Kevin Vermarca, Larry Warbus, the big, there's been a controversy because Riley, she had, I think he tweeted. There was something like there, why don't they pick the guys who win races? Yeah. The two you would take issue with here. Sean Quinn, perhaps, but I quite like Sean Quinn as a worker on that course.

Oh, he was one of his quite good at the due to frauds also, right? Yeah. He's like the heart of the race. He seems to step up. Yeah. I think he's a very good writer. Nielsen Palace is the one you'd flag. Like, so he just said, and he just said knee surgery, he's not reached a grand tour this year. He has won a race. You won at Austria, not race a lot at all. He won at Austria. Yeah. Very good on that type of course. And then you'd also say Riley, she ends not done a grand tour this year,

either. Usually, you would not want to pick a writer that's done a grand tour in the year.

“Well, as you're trying to tell us, it's a one day race. You have to pick the guys who were on”

form at that moment, you know. Even even if it's, if they're on domestic duties, you still have to

be an incredible shape to be able to do a job for a leader on a world championship's course.

So you have to do something about where you're in the shape. I don't have a form. I guess you have to have a question. I haven't found it's true. Yeah. But they would know better than us, right? So we should keep that in mind. And then Larry Warbaugh's clearly informed because he's been in multiple breakways here. And the reason you would pick Larry is he's going to show up and he's going to work for the other guys in the team. So yeah, yeah, you would look at the team and say,

well, there's guys who might finish better than some of the guys they selected. But they have guys who could legitimately win the race in like Quinn Simmons, Jorgensen, McNulty. And then you'd say, well, the rest of these guys are going to work for them. They're like McVermarca. Like, that's a great pick. Like, I think that's a fantastic. He's also a very intense guy. You meet him. Very nice. But it like has a has a real competitive intensity about him that I think

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“Yeah, they went at three guys in the top six and had key dome mistakes going all out and”

you said this is going to cost them. I also we should say I thought of this after we stopped recording. You were talking about Movistar's pacing strategy like with Ramail. I do wonder if if in the modern times because they all do these really complex simulations like with computers of the computers and mathematics of the course and so then they get a power they have to ride

every second of the course. So I wonder if a lot of guys aren't even pacing against real times.

You know if it's just your simulation. Yeah, and you'll be exactly how to go. But be yeah, Red Bull, they've calmed Thorne Lee, calum, calum, one of the two. It goes very hard same with Finn Fisher, but she noted almost immediately today Thorne Lee's out the back and that's the guy they would want there. And Finn Fisher Black was also hurting when the racing was really going on. They did however, I mean once it regrouped they came back and then ultimately

they did have a lot of riders to base for pre-most there on the last time but you know that pacing

“really meant nothing. I think like Thorne Lee and Finn Fisher Black should have been in that”

break away today and then be there on and then drop back to do what Gastrio did today for endmas. Yes. And they probably couldn't get in the break away because they were shot from that effort.

Yeah, and you know what, it is just an observation sponsor. I was critical about it. At the end of the day,

what we also have to take into account is, can they really do it? Can they really execute what we think should be the strategy? And I'm going to, you know, like today for example, I'm going to say, no, they're tired. They just don't have the energy left to do the damage. I think that's the main observation. You can say, okay, well I should, I would have done this, I would have been dust. Yes, but at the same time, you know, it's the same scenario, same situation as always. You know,

and in a three week ground tour, you know, there's not, there's not that much left. And you'd also ask yourself, is the outcome any different probably? Yeah, there's probably not a lot you could do. On, on the topic about come, you know, Pagachar, you get a lot of crap. There's like they've ruined cycling. There's no sick leaves, more and more. There's no attacks. Well, Richard Caripass tried today. Those are pretty clever move. You know, it's a government attack,

midway through. I'm going to bridge up to a teammate and we're going to ride away from everyone. The issue with that is it works in theory, right? Because inric moss is isolated at that point. Inric moss can't chase you. Well, you're not inric moss's problem, really, because you're in fourth

place. And you're five minutes, 17 behind the racely. You're not that far behind third place,

though, with feels called there. And feels called really cares about that third place. So to Catholic and gets to the front in pace is extremely hard with an extremely strong team and reels in Caripass. They would have gotten them done with rafordy up there, having no problems. What did you think about that? I mean, there was not much, I mean, this and this, that was not

“much else that, that decade long could do. And I think at the same time, by now, it's known,”

you know, that, I mean, Movistar for sure knows. Okay. First of all, Caripass is not my problem, as you say, it's true. He's the problem of Phoenix Gal and Primoz Rocket. You could say, well, Primoz Rocket and Red Bull, they may not care whether they're second or third, or fourth, maybe Primoz cares, but, you know, at the end of the day, Primoz is a guy who wants to win or nothing. But Phoenix Gal wants to be on the podium in his two round tours. And he's going to

be on the podium most likely if nothing crazy happens tomorrow. So listen, yeah, there's not that many surprises amongst those guys. You know, we say, oh, Caripass, you know, he traded, he tries again,

it all the time. And tomorrow, he's doing, he's going to do it again. And they kind of can predict what's going to happen with the behavior of the other team. So it was a nice move from Caripass, but at the same time, you know, you're not going to go anywhere. Well, I'm really impressed about what Caripass

is, and this is the second time he's done this. He puts in this massive attack, spends so much energy,

and then at the end doesn't lose time with his direct rivals. I know, I know. That's crazy. Yeah, it is crazy. It's crazy. Like, yeah, it shows you. It's like, well, could you just be dropping these guys? If you weren't attacking, but, you know, maybe not. I don't, and maybe he's correct. I guess we'll see tomorrow. Like, I don't imagine he'll try something. We won't get into that yet, though, because we have a preview coming up. But Johan, before we do our Steve preview,

if in Rick Moss, who looked fantastic today, we should say, even when he was isolated in the group, I thought he looked poised. I thought he was not panicking, and he just looks good on the bike. I'm turning into you. I'm just watching how guys ride in the Peloton mid stage. And he looks good. Like, he just, you watch that guy, right? He said he's in good shape. So it's a summy wins. Do you know the last rider from the, like, the rat last home rider to an a grand tour,

“so the rider from the country that the grand tour is taking place in?”

So the last Spanish rider or any grand tour, any rider from that country? Okay, last Spanish ground tour rider or Italian or French to win the zero or to win the tour? Oh, think about it. I was like, well, man.

Like this never happens. Like ever, when's the last one you could think of?

A comfortable one, the flight time, 2014, and 60, 14. So 12 years ago, it was the last time it was the last time it was the better one, the Volta. Has there been an Italian who won the zero? Definitely won it, to the bottom of the town, anybody mentioned the only, 10 years ago, and 2016. Really 11 years ago, if you can, through the years.

Yeah. But yeah, I know the last,

“do you know the last movie star rider who won a grand tour?”

I do, so we got this wrong the other day, and I welcome out to in the morning in, you know, cold sweat, not because of the acid, but because we got this wrong, it's Richard Carapaz 2019, Jardatàia. Dieratàia, exactly, yeah. Yeah. He was a movie star, yeah. It's the unifying theory of Carapaz. He's been on every team. He's won every grand tour.

He's every everywhere. You look at any picture of Pagachar and like Carapaz is somewhere.

But now it, this is like, huge. It's huge if if Moss wins this, I mean, this never happens anymore.

I mean, you got a question. It's big. It's big for it's big for Enrique Moss. It's big for Movi started big for Spain. And let me tell you, Spencer, I saw Enrique Moss interview in Spanish today, after the stage, he knows he's winning. He looks like a lion's on the, you know, but you can feel like with the tone and you know, he obviously he stays neutral. He's very calm. Like, doesn't get excited. Super calm, but you can feel that confidence in between the lines.

He knows he's winning this welta. He is, he is super confident. And he should be,

“that's why that's how he feels. Do you remember you got interviewed in Belgium earlier this year?”

And one of the questions that you're almost asked you is, why do Spanish writers not win grand tours anymore? That's true. I forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Here we are. And they're going to grant tour, probably. Yeah. That the question was a little unfair. It's like, well, okay, name me the countries that do in grand tours. Not that many of them Slovenia. Yeah. And a few other mixed in there. Slovenia and Denmark win a lot of grand tours. Anything else on today's stage

before we preview tomorrow? Yeah. No, just, you know, that I think today was really an important step for Andrew McMaster. You know, it was a big test. I think tomorrow was going to be a reflection of what we saw today. I think we learned two things, you know, that that, that Andrew McMaster has the legs to react when when Primoz attacked quite hard in the final. And number two is that, you know, the rivals of Andrew McMaster, they try, but they don't have the power left, you know,

to make the difference. As I said, you know, usually at the end of a three week tour, they try, but they're not going anywhere. You know, like this attack from Primoz looked really good. You know, I mean, he looked strong, but at the end of the day, didn't drop anybody of this, the five guys. So it was more or less a copy from the same stage where Karapas won. You know, like, you know, break away, went from the breakaway and then the five guys from G. C all together. Same

day. Just funny, because it's a pretty hard climb. It's not like it's an easy climb,

they'd all be really close to each other. Yeah. We've got a bubble race. We don't have an outlier out there that can just drop everybody whenever they want. Yeah. And the leader is probably the strongest climber. So he has no incentive to attack them. Like there's not, there's not anything pushing him forward. Exactly. Yeah. The final mountain stage. We'll get to in a minute. We'll be right back from a break. Everybody this episode is brought to you by Hims. The amount of conflicting advice

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stage 20. Last mountain stage, last GC stage question mark of this welta, the the final stage is actually kind of hard. But stage 20, where right outside of Granada, we have five categorized

climbs. This is a hard stage, by the way. First one, cat three, then we have a cat one, cat one,

finish on an HC climb that averages 10 percent, eight to half kilometers long. In the stage, it's really a tricky stage, because it's flat like rolling through the first 78k, like you have one cat three climb that's very mild in there. So breakaway probably tries to go away, you go down in the Granada, and then you start climbing up a really hard climb, 8k at 8 percent to get out of town. You do that once, you just send back down to Granada. You do that again,

send climb. You just send kind of halfway back down to Granada, and then instead of going to Sierra Nevada, you go the other way, and you start climbing up 7k long, 8 percent to send back down. It's all like a loop around a lake, and then you do this little offshoot climb, apparently they've

never done it before. So they go random climb in the opposite direction of Sierra Nevada,

8k to 10 percent to the stage finish. How do you find it funny? You said this little offside, like a little as in the road is not well-traveled. The road is small. It's the first time, by the way, that this climb is in a race, at least a high level race. They're never going up there. Yeah, it's kind of when you look at the map, you wouldn't be obvious that you would ever send a race up here, but I'm quite excited to see, I'm surprised the Volta is quite

in-apprising with, you know, the zoo and the tour don't like to end stages in random locations. They always wanted them to be in a town that's going to pay the money presumably. Yeah, the Volta, just they're not for us. Okay, we're going to throw this. There's probably some greater financial deal with Andalusia. There's probably a reason we're spending some Andalusia. Andalusia is not under as much pressure to finish in a town.

“So, do you think this is the two questions? You think it's GC or Breakaway and who wins if it's?”

Yeah, okay, one of those. Yeah, but I think it's GC. I think, you know, first of all, the whole Penetal knows this stage, Spencer, because it's in all these climbs are in a circle of Sierra Nevada, Sierra Nevada, very well known for multiple altitude camps of a lot of teams, sometimes you know, on top of there on top it's, I think it's 2,200 meters. The altitude, there's like a high, high performance center, but also nice hotels apart. And so,

there are periods in time in the season that it's like the whole Penetal is there. So, you know, they go up and down, they know all these climbs. And the guys who have, who are doing the Volta and have done altitude camp there have for sure reviewed these climbs. You know, the, the, the thing is, I think, you know, we can easily say Spencer that that this is the hardest stage of the Volta. If you look at it, we talked about Eitama, right?

4,900 meters of climbing. But the detail of these climbs Spencer is crazy, you know, you can say, you just said the average, the average percentages, right? But so, if you look, for example,

the first climb, Puerto de El P urche, they do it twice. You know, if you look at it, it says 8,8

kilometers 8.2%, but I saw actually a program, I just after the finish of the stage, where they were reconning these climbs in detail 8.8 kilometers 8%, but the ramp maximum ramps of 18%, which is the, the first climb, which they do twice. And the, for the last two, care pretty flat. So, yeah, if you have it that high, like, that's steep for the first 6k. Then after that, they do Puerto de El Duque. Again, 7 and a half kilometers 8.3%,

but maximum ramps of 20%. No, my, 20%. And then to finish it off, the coyado del Al Wasil, which is this

unique climb, never been done. It's already super hard 8.3 kilometers 9.8%, that's, that's crazy

hard, but really, really narrow road, not very good pavement, maximum ramps, 22%. This is horrible.

“It's a horrible stage. It's G.C. for sure, I think. And I'm going to predict, I'm like, must”

do in the stage tomorrow, tomorrow and Rick Moss wins the last mountain stage in the red jersey and seals the deal. Yeah, I think that, it's, it's hard to imagine, it's easier for me to imagine a breakaway wins than another G.C. Redder wins. Because it's not that hot tomorrow, but it's pretty hot, you know, high 20s and who's the best climber in this race when it's hot and it's deep, it's, in Rick Moss. So, yeah, it's really difficult to think of a scenario where

he doesn't win from a G.C. group. So, I'm also going to go in Rick Moss, G.C. group. And then also the thing that helps G.C. Movistar has nothing, they're not probably really worried about Sunday. So, they think this is the last day, we really have to do a lot. And these climbs are great for falling back a breakaway. You know, if you have an 8% 8k long climb and you're doing that multiple times, I mean, the bike's going to lose time a lot of time. Every time you do that. So, in less like,

in who would have to be in the breakaway for them not to lose time, we'd be like, "Sept coups," but then you start getting into the G.C. implications. So, like, a second twist got up us, we'd rather, we'd better, the breakaway is going to be the same guy's Spencer. The thing is, I don't think they will make it tomorrow. I mean, I don't know. You know, because at some point,

“even if Movistar might not want to win this stage, right? I mean, I think they're just going”

to write conservatively and just care about Eric Moss. But at some point, I think Decaffron is going to come back in the game. And then tomorrow, even Rado, they're going to think that maybe with the prima as they have a chance to win on the last climb. So, it's the last opportunity for, you know, these guys, for Felix Gaul and prima's rubbish to win the stage. So, I think they're going to go for it also, especially at which house, which helps Moss and Carapos, and which helps

Eric Moss and Movistar. Yeah, especially if Carapos, I mean, is he going to wait till the final climb? Or is he going to attack somewhere along earlier as you get in the breakaway? And then that's just going to increase the pace as well. Like if Decaffron gets to the front, reels him in. It's just going to make it harder and harder for the break to stay away. I mean, I guess it could happen. But if it is breakaway, who would you pick? We travel. Yeah, I mean,

why not Dunbar again, I guess. Or better off, maybe better off. He's writing really strong. That would, I would probably be the sneaky one. I would, because he's been a buzzer a lot. Yeah,

but he's really good, but there's for some reason, just one guy always who's a bit strong around

that day. Maybe again, Marco Brenner tomorrow could be also a good option if from a breakaway.

“But I think it's going to be G.C. I think it's entered Moss Day tomorrow. Okay. Don't overthink it.”

Better than bad. Although today, you know, I mean, okay, tomorrow is different because, you know, if he's there with the favorites, is the last, is really a important stage. He's going to go for it. Today, he didn't even try to have a placing, you know, as he was just

Well, yeah, and he has, I mean, he's one stage in this race. So there's not a lot of pressure, but yeah, I'm sure that would be meaningful for him in the team to win the final mountain stage.

It would be an amazing statement like, "Okay, boys, here I am." I mean, the guys eaten an incredible

amount of shit. Also funny to see that his interview yesterday after the time trial in Spanish was, you know, I gave it all, you know, everybody. So great, you know, like 33 seconds and he was super calm and he says, "No, no, this is what we went for. This is the time we expected to lose. Not much more." Yeah. So he knew what he was doing yesterday. I'm having an hard time wrapping my head around.

“This is the same guy. I remember he wore the women's clothing at the zero.”

You know, he was like getting clowned for like, and he wasn't even in the GC and then you're to tell you. Yeah, like it is really shocking that turnaround he's had. But he looks like a different guy. It looks like a different guy. Also like he's so skinny, so thin.

But at the same time, he looks powerful and muscular, you know. Yeah.

Looks good. Looks fine. He does. He did up the advantage of he did this year off. He did have some good rides in that year. And then he goes away for the summer just to prepare him for the vault. That has to be a huge help versus most of these guys. This was not their number one priority. Maybe primus. But and then if you know, if you look, he was, he had to, he had to let Felix Galgo in Budagos on those two climbs two times. I know. I know.

That's not crazy. Which is the proof. You don't need to come into shape when it really matters. You know, like if you, if you're in great shape, two or three weeks before the main event, that's not a guarantee. You're going to be at your full potential three weeks later. That's not a guarantee.

“That is a good point. That's a very good point. Anything else you'll on on tomorrow?”

Oh, I've something to ask you before we go. Yeah. So your year worldly man, you've traveled around the world for athletic events. There is a big football, a big American football game. Not in the US. It was an Australian Melbourne last night. So two teams, 49ers and Rams. The 49ers go over a week before. And you know, they're like, how are we talking football or soccer? Like, not soccer. Like grid eyes. Okay. As the Aussies would call it. So the Niners are over there.

They're toast the town. They're going to coffee shops. Big up and Melbourne. As you shit, because it's a great city. The Rams say we're going to fly in day before. They fly in the day before the game. And I think they flew home the night after the game ended. Genius theory of

over, we're just never going to we're never going to even touch that time zone. So we don't have

to come home. Is this a good idea or not? It has been done before. It has been done before. I remember Spencer when I was I was actually there, but it was not a pro yet in 1986. My last year as an amateur on the 23, the World Championships in Colorado Springs, you know, it was the altitude, altitude and time zones. And there were professional riders who just took that same approach I remember two of them being one Sean Kelly and the other one you up to the mouth,

ex-winner of the Tour de France, they flew in two days before the event. And they just did the race. I mean, how did they perform? I mean, I don't know. I mean, I have to check, but it's it's been

“done before. I think if it works out, it can work out right, but it could also fail.”

At the same time, you could also, I mean, with all due respect for football, it's not the same effort, right? It's not a six, it's not a six hour, seven-hour super endurance right. It's what it is. How long is the game? One and a half years. I mean, the games are pretty long. I don't know. They're like four hours. You're staying in a run for a lot of the game, but you do. Do you want to be mentally,

I mean, mentally is a big part. Like, if you're not mentally sharp in football, in any sport, it's not like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And to me, that's almost like the biggest thing I noticed when I fly internationally, it just mentally, I'll be a little slow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if it's a one-off, it can work. I mean, I'm not following this sport. Yeah, I'm, you know, there's a few sports I've followed, and there's some other sports, man. I completely, like, for example, Formula One.

Tomorrow, this weekend, it's Formula One in Madrid. And you're, you can't be more excited. You're pumped. I found out. I found out yesterday that it. That's a big deal. I can't

in Granada. I'm not, I'm not here. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Make sense. Interesting. I love that you just found out about that. It's like a huge race. It could be bigger. Big event. Yeah. Big event. Here we got to figure out who won the Colour Springs World Championships.

Moreno Argentine. Okay. Second. It's Charlie with that.

Third, I'm going to say, "Rolf Goals, maybe. I'm not sure." Okay. Just a, just a piece of

“Roni finished. Third. Sean, because I don't finished. Yeah. Sean Kelly, if you want to finish, please.”

He flew over straight before. I remember two days before is not. That's not crazy. What do you think both guys are going to do for Montreal? Most guys are there and

they're going to stay there. Yeah, because they're going to come back right now and they're not

going to fly back now. I guess no. Probably. And then I guess the, the guys from the Valtau will, I mean, at least one week before. You know, so, yeah, you finish the Valtau. So, finish the Valtau, maybe a little bit of rest is home and then the next weekend they'll fly over to have. I mean, usually they say, I mean, with Europe, it's six hours time difference, right? So, they usually say,

it's one hour, one hour per day, one day per hour of difference that you kind of need to adapt.

I mean, that's the, you know, all fashion rule of thumb. I don't know if that's true or not.

“It's probably about right. I mean, yeah. Yeah. At this sound about, I think what people tend to”

underestimate is they get obsessed with the time zones. You know, it's like, I'm not even going to be on that time zone. And so, I think flying to Australia and back, if you spend two out of three days flying there and back, the thing that makes you feel bad is the flight, like the further between the flight and your event, the better and spending minimal time on the ground is not going to help you feel better when you get back. That would be my one note on that is if you spread your

flights out, you're probably going to feel better physically than, yeah, you just don't feel that. It's like flying is not that good for you. Just feel, you feel terrible. You're digestants, you're, I mean, I shouldn't underestimate those two hour flights. So imagine you've got a flight 20 hours. Yeah. I mean, I'll take a bag of chips, take a bottle of water and a flight. What's happening to that thing? It's going up. It's going down. That's happening inside your body. So,

you know, feel that good when you land. But we'll talk after tomorrow's stage and then preview the

“Granada stage. I'm excited that it's finishing in Granada. I think this is working out for the best.”

I'm looking forward to both stages over the weekend. I think it's going to be a great, beautiful finish. But thanks so much. I'll talk tomorrow.