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I don't know why, I don't like going out to the camp, I want to retire.

“When Johan be upset about that, I'm like, why are you talking like this in the middle of the two to friends?”

That's a question for me. Maybe it was on.

Yeah, I look, I never would have said that.

I mean, the beauty of that partnership between Johan and myself, and then the rest of the team, George, and all the guys. But really, Johan and myself, while, and we actually had a question during the race today. Who's calling us shots at you? Yeah, just you out of curiosity.

Who's calling us shots at you? Is a poker chart? Or is it a Genetic? All right, we suspect it's poker chart. And I think during my run, people suspected the same thing for me.

Yes, Johan's just driving the car. Lance is calling the shots. That was never the case. So this partnership that we had was so magical. It was by committee.

But if there was ever a debate or a conflict, it went to him. All right, everybody, welcome back to the move podcast. I'm Lance Armstrong, joined by Sir Bradley Wiggins, Mr. Hink Happy. He's a scrambling.

“We had a lot of stuff going on in the studio this morning.”

A lot of it created by George himself.

I've been in here working on it. It was not over any of this with my fault, but. I'm talking about stage 10. I land just, let's just get this out of the way. What would we do today?

Stage 10 from Oryak to Lolloyan from Oryak to Lolloyan. What a day. Best deal day. I've got a great desire. We've got a line on the steel day.

We've got the French national team plan today. Yeah. Yeah. Big day for France. Big day for Taddy Poker chart.

I mean, I know this sounds like a broken record. This was, I didn't expect this one. All right, I know. Maybe they hadn't even said it in this postory center of view. They had specifically targeted this day.

Maybe not as the day, but as a day, a day of selection. Wow. Bradley. Yeah. They were impressive today.

You were super impressive. It was on all day. No one really got any major time in any sort of breakaway that formed. And then Taddy, I mean, I thought you might go a little bit earlier. But he ran out riders and then, of course,

these must started riding and he decided to go. Didn't take a great deal of time straight away. Although he did out of carapaz and they held him at 17, 18 seconds for a fair bit. But I mean, as we've seen so many times now, he's great at pacing his efforts.

And he really hurt himself today. That was the one thing that stood out today. How much he hurt himself? Like they all did. Mm-hmm.

24th stage when in a tour. So we just have to keep saying that number. Because these seemingly are going to keep adding up. And it was only a matter of years ago. We're still happy from our cabin just that this has just become,

I mean, you can look at the rest of the race. We might be two or three more here. Um, hopefully impressive. I'm curious about the, you know, the, his team was so dominant all day.

I'm watching the race going to kiss. Who cares? Like let somebody go up the road. They're riding. Again, in the post race show, he said they had targeted this day.

I don't know that that means you stick to that plan. Uh, probably a better question for Johan. Um, but there was this moment where he did. He lost some guys. There was some speculation as we were watching.

That he was that that the, some of the guys on the motos in the media were saying he didn't look great. He was like, I don't know if it was an acceleration or just fast tempo. And I know exactly what he was thinking. He said, oh, what are you doing?

You're at the front of my bike race. Watch this. Hold my beer. It seemed like as we did. Um, I don't know.

He was, I keep going back to when he does things like this in the races, which I don't blame him. Like I, I was that guy too. Like what the fuck you did? This is my bike race.

I love front. Um, I go straight to the post race interview and watch. Right. And, and, you know, is it, is it, it's just, it's just different.

And for today for the first time that I can, that I remember.

“And I believe it's the first time he said it.”

He acknowledged that there's some detractors on the roadside. And even addressed them. He said to the people booing. So tough spot. I've been there.

Right. I had a lot more people booing than, then, imagine he has. Um, but you're just so clearly dominant.

And he even, he tried, he said, listen, I, I realized. Or I remembered it was best deal day. I wanted to honor this jersey.

“The French, the tutor, France, Yellow jersey.”

I don't think that gets you many points. Yeah. Tough, tough spot. I, I feel for the kid. I mean, he's, I don't.

I mean, look, he's head and shoulders. Above everybody else. But it's, you know. Like, yeah, I'm going to listen. I mean, yeah, I'm not, you know, Tony Robbins.

I mean, I'm not getting the guys head. Look, I don't know. But it just looks. Less than fun. It's a tough situation.

Especially for all the, the French teams. I mean, typically historically best deal day. French teams are all in for the win. A day like today is ideal for a breakaway to get away. Most likely get to the finish line.

But like, the team like you a, they just make it look easy. And from personal experience, that's like some of the hardest racing in the world to control when you're in the Mossief Central. It's brutal, it's miserable. People from behind can take run at you runs out.

You want to download those up at these hard climbs. And it's just, it's super complicated. It's going to trouble. But you put it on TV with 100K to go. And it's like no problem for them.

They get the breakaway at one minute, two minutes. So the dominance of not only tie day of the whole team is just super impressive. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I mean, Bradley, he did. You know, there's been, they've talked about keeping or, sort of,

quasi protecting Isaac Del Toro. Well, he got dropped with that acceleration. He goes out the back. He loses the white jersey. He managed to recover a bit.

Yeah. There seemed like they, they lost more than they gained in some ways. And that was certainly the feeling when he was watching this is, is when it was hovering around 20 seconds to begin with. And the effort he was having to maintain that break on that small flat section

in between the two climbs, the last climb and the climbing attack on. With Del Toro being dropped as well.

“It made you think, you know, is it worth this effort?”

And particularly the effort of the team through the day for such a small game when there's still way more to come where he could take way more time like he did on the tourmerly. And it's the stages like that that you question, you know, because even Spencer said, you know, we had to watch seven years of you guys doing this. But then George read the point that we're lonesome and have done something like that on a stage like today.

Yeah, I know where. And I think that's quite interesting because, you know, we still have two weeks left of this race.

And again, he's got what he got the 30 second game today.

Yeah. And it goes again. Well, almost a minute on. I'm gonna go. A little more.

But we don't talk about being the goal because my prediction may come true. Yeah. We're going to talk about that in the second half of the show because he. Yeah. There was an interesting interview that came out on the rest day that the Jonas gave out.

I don't know when he gave the interview. But I think it, it sort of dug tells into your. I wouldn't even call it a prediction. It was just something to watch for. Right, and and not maybe today, just sort of reinforce that.

You know, the one thing we we talked about this two days ago and and we should touch on again. I mean, coming out of the rest day is hard. Some guys come out and they're like, oh, this was a great rest day. Most guys, I suspect come out and say, I wish we just kind of would have. Kept writing.

Kept racing. Just some. You come out of a rest day. It's been super hot. It's been a hard tour.

And then they throw this one at you. The meters of vertical climbing. Never flat. Aggressive. Matthew Ricketella was on the record and said that the date their team, the calf on thought.

This would be the hardest stage of the tour. That's say in something. Yeah. Now, that's what they thought. They look like it.

I mean, there were bodies everywhere. But just coming out of that rest day and trying to restart the engine. Yeah.

There's no doubt the battle for a second and third or still super.

It's still super exciting.

“I mean, I think it's going to continue to evolve and sort of.”

Delta or the big loser in that battle today. And it negates the theory that you had that thought it was just going to start focusing on helping Delta or get second. Well, clearly he just went for the win. Didn't gain that much. 30 seconds.

Well, of course. It's 30 seconds. Plus a 10 second time game. Yeah. Which puts you to 40.

I mean, he gained. Let's say on one of you. So again, 48 seconds on him. That's a lot of time. Yeah.

But they. The collateral of that was Delta. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, the race is not over.

Like, it's stage 10. He still has to keep taking time. I would think you don't want to cruise in with it. Why have a two and a half minute lead when now he has.

You know, his lead is at four minutes, basically.

Yeah. So I like a wide wide weight to take time when he could take time now. Like the present is the time to do it. Do not procrastinate because you don't know what's going to happen. It would be my argument.

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Um, a lot of articles actually about the rest days. I saw some article online. These guys. This is so good. It's the tour friends. Yeah.

All right. You might imagine Wimbledon saying just ran to pick. Sorry.

“No, and we you have to stay in our hotel.”

Sorry. Sorry. I'll give it to you. Uh, you're at the e-bees. Yeah.

And the AC is busted. These kids move their bed outside of. And some hotel. They put up a picture of. They were sleeping under the stars.

What? Anyhow, I mean, the heat is better. I mean, especially for sleep. We've talked about it. Uh, move the day.

So my move the day. Um, you know, without picking tad day every day, particularly on days like this, I'm going to go a little bit, you know, left field here. And I'm going to go pull safe just.

Yeah. And got third today. Let's not forget. You're still 19. He's nearly halfway through his first tour of France.

And he's living up to the height. Um, you know, we saw Remco losing a bit of ground on that last climb today. You know, we've seen all the other players in this Tour de France. Having slightly off moments or off days in this Tour de France. Sex has not missed a beat this whole race.

So for his first tour, very impressive. Perfect day for a 19 year old. Uh, to crack. Yeah. First tour young guy.

I read another article too that this is sort of. Uh, uncharted territory for him.

He's never raised a stage race that's gone longer.

That's gone to eight tenth stage hot rest day tough for state of the tour. Way of a nation on your show on best deal day. And he's there. I think that's like, I love that big. Yeah.

Actually, like the move of the day today.

“Because I think we're going to have slightly different.”

Yeah. I'm going to go with Karapats. He took the race and the bull by the horns today. Super aggressive 99.9% of the time. He's winning that day.

The way he was going. Uh, but who would have thought that UAE would control it. He would that close and then talk about it. I'm going to go with Karapats. Really super well professor.

I'm going pulse success. Yeah. I third place that you hear from it. That's deal day. But one of the problems with best deal day is the French teams are graduating.

Pass going into the breakaway to Kathands focused on the GC. Third today is super impressive. He's finished 10 seconds in front of you on a spinnickard. Yeah. That's really impressive for 19 year old.

Well, uh, it's going to be two to two because I'm with George on this one. Carapaz. I would have bet when he got out there. I would have bet any amount of money. He's a tough bike rider.

He can climb. He can descend. And I just thought they'd let him go. No. I thought there's a perfect day to sort of let somebody sit out there that's not dangerous to you.

I was I was convinced he was going to stay away. And I was also struck. Um, you had left. So I was sitting there watching the race all by myself. It was very zen moment.

But I'm a struck by the down hills. You know, we're in the massive central. You don't often. I don't know. I mean, you messy central.

You think of rolling hills. These were mountains. Right. And they looked pure and he's asked Alps and mask. But I was struck by the down hills.

And even. And I've sort of caught myself because now I sit here. It's a 55 year old guy who takes his time downhill and doesn't take risk. You know, watching these guys go downhill. And you're seeing there's no guard rails.

You're seeing it like when you're when you're doing that in the race.

You never think about that.

And if you think about it, you're not in this race. You can't think about that. Yeah. Just bombing downhill. Think about the difference between being upright and being down on a road.

Where you're going 45 50 55 miles an hour. And there isn't a guard road. They helicopter showed it. You go off a route. You blow it front.

Front tire there. We're learning on downhill's special mention today to Tom Pitcock as well. Tim. He had a crash on the downhill. Got himself back up.

He's coming into good form now. And he's doing a front. He's now moved into tenth on GC.

“And I think we're just going to keep seeing him climb enough.”

Yeah. Yeah. Obviously he's hitting this right now. I did not expect him to come back after the match. Yeah.

But I'm going to characterize. Yeah. I want to ask you guys, what was going on? Go on. What's going on with Red Bull?

What was going on with Red Bull? What did they make of this? He looks terrible on the climb. And then he stirred you off. I thought he was going to post up for a second.

He looked incredible on that final little pitch.

That is happening on Red Bull. Look, I think he just did what he felt like he needed to do. He backed off got a little bit dropped. But kept his group within five, ten seconds all the way up to climb. Bomb that is then caught back up and why not like finish on a high note.

Instead of like finishing thinking, OK, I got dropped from these guys. What does that mean for my for the next 10 days of this race? Like I'm back. He probably got all the adrenaline catching back up and just went for the sprint. I didn't mind it one bit.

I have a rope wrong with it. It did. Look, he was getting dropped. And then they also interviewed him at the finish. And he put as much lipstick on that pig as he could.

He did come back. But then attacked and that's all fine and good.

You have to go for the sprint. But that move at the end, looking back.

“What do you, I mean, I don't, I'm not in his head.”

I don't know what he was looking at. I'm looking at sure look like he was looking where are looking for his teammate. For him. Well, it's a mental mind game now. Like you got to mess with there.

They're racing for second place all out.

So he caught them. And this was not a flat easy finish. This was the hard finish. So these guys were on their last last breath. They're in competition with each other.

I would say more REM covers in competition with Lippovich rather than the other way around. It's not a good look though. It's, yeah, it's, he saved face a little bit there for that final sprint in the, because the, the, the full process tonight at dinner would have been very different. Had he continued to stay dropped and the mental would have gone clearly of leadership,

which has been a bad look internally. Well, they're incompetent. It's not like he know in Le Mans. These guys are not first and second. They're crushed.

Like maybe focus on that instead of fighting with each other.

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The green jersey, the sprint days, there's mountain days. Is there just two categories? I think there's three categories.

“Then is there a discussion around what just make them all the same?”

I mean, but that obviously plays right into poker jerseys. I think that's exactly why they're not all the same. It's okay. And they added this super bonus for the sprint finishes. They're 70 now to keep Pagotcha from winning it. Because you only get 20 points for the win today.

Like Patterson, Winsy, and her media sprint, it's 25 points. So he actually outscores him. Did you guys watch it start at this stage? It was super hard from little track. Blue, the blue, the peloton up, Pagotcha's caught out.

He has to bridge up. The question I have and little track has this theory where they control the race. They deliver Patterson into the sprint, like they did in Milan last year.

The problem is Benjamin and Gremai finished his third.

So the Delta, they're not building up a huge gap on Gremai. Would they be better off letting the break go naturally? And Patterson just get into the break and then get a bigger gap on Gremai at the end. Or let's go and nobody gets points. Well, I think Patterson, he still gets six point Delta on Gremai.

Well, yeah, he's trying to get points. And he's 293 Gremai's 239. But two sprints stage. That's what it looks like. Yeah, yeah, we're going to get into those second half of the show.

Tim earlier, sitting in third on the Green Jersey competition, there was little closest what I was hearing for the time cut assuming they were two. I've already made it within a few minutes. He's getting dropped in the first five kids. Or want to imagine being him.

He's horrible, terrible. Well, you know, it's not, I mean, it's bad. It's hard, but the guy like that has got people around him. And they're going to rise up the climbs. They're going to bomb their descents. So they're staying within their limits the whole time.

And they know exactly how to moderate their pace throughout the day. Yeah, I wouldn't underestimate also the damage he does in those two sprint days.

I mean, we saw the exhaustion. He had on those steps when the press began.

Are there? Yeah. You know, so it's going to be tough. Hmm. We're going to see tomorrow.

Next day. Are these stages harder than the Alps for sprinters? It's some way, yeah. Yeah. Because of the speed from the stop for the intermediate.

Yeah. And never flat. Never flat. I mean, this is a hard day. But you know, if you're not in the Alps or the Pyrenees,

it's hard to get to 4,000 total of 4,000 meters of total vertical climb. And it has to be a day that you're just nipping 300 here or 300 there.

“But that's how a day in the massive central gets to be 4,000 is just,”

it is never flat. Yeah. And then, again, we throw in the heat. Did seem like I checked the weather last night. It seems like it's about 10 degrees cooler.

I don't know.

Maybe they finally got a snap from this heat dome.

It's what it's called. Yeah. Apparently they can't do all fireworks in France. Because of the heat and the dryness. Smart.

It's going to be a rough best deal day. It's the start tomorrow's only 90 degrees. So it's cool enough. Oh, that. Yeah.

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Everybody here at the move.

“I don't know what your boys got up into.”

So I wrote four hours of intervals. I did. I heard Bradley was at the gym. I did get a sighting there. And then we ran into Highman.

I didn't know it was in the gym. He just said I ran into Sir Bradley Wiggins. Then me and Ben went to Cobb and Dale to try and get a haircut. So that's been a multi-day endeavor here. What's going on?

That was good work. I have clippers over shot. It was closed. But Cobb and Dale was experienced. Yeah.

Very different to Aspen. Very different. Fortunately. Yeah. By the way, I've clippers at the house.

If you need them. All right. I'll do it for you. I went out. Appreciate you guys asking.

I went out. How did you get lost? How was the goal? Yeah. How was the goal?

You know, every, you know, in life. You know, you have these places. You're happy places. It's a special place. There's a, yeah, we all have them.

A few places. They're just, they're just special for you. You just, you get there and you're like, - Was it about being able to go club you with? - It's a place I've been a member of for a long time,

Bally Neil, it's out in Far East and Colorado. It's the number one course in the state of Colorado. Very, very different. You wouldn't think you're in Colorado. You would think that you're in Nebraska.

But I took my son and his friend Julian. We had a hell of a two days. We played 18 as soon as we got there, woke up early, ripped 36, came home last night. But that was all well and good.

But as George knows, you know, mornings is do not disturb time, right? George stand at the house for a few days. I'd come down just Larry, I'd pour, not even a sip of coffee. He's got this bike race on full volume.

What's the talk to me?

I said, whoa, stop, let me go through my first half.

And then we're going to talk to me after his first half. - Do not speak to me, right? So anyhow, I'm out at Bally Neil. Yesterday morning, I get up early. I do the same thing sitting there with my coffee, just chilling.

And lo and behold, another person comes up and wants to talk to me.

Look at this little guy. This is the house cat out there at Bally. His name is Fescue.

Just would not, I've never seen like a wild cat

“that's now been tame, just come up and just how cute is that?”

Anyways, all right, it's one of those days. - Cool, how'd you hit him? So here's, well, like I said, we played 18 and then 36. So day one, just, you know, we finished a show full over there. I'm like, this is the back's not going to move very good.

Had my lowest round ever at Bally Neil, shoot 76. Couldn't miss. Yesterday, different story, I am truly jackal and hide when it comes to golf course. I don't know what's up with me.

Anyhow, I want to close the loop on the Jonas discussion we saw today, I think you saw a couple things today. You saw that he lost time, but you also just saw his face. We were looking, we were watching and they did as a real service in having the slow move him coming across the line.

He looks, he just looked defeated. And then, as I'm reading the news over the rest day, this article comes out that he was considering retiring. I don't know what's going on, I mean, I just don't, you either enter out.

Like this is a hard, this is a hard to support in the world. That there's no, like you're in or out.

“And this is, and then I just, once, as soon as I saw that,”

headline, I thought, God, I thought immediately to what Bradley said earlier in the race.

I mean, we've never seen him like this.

Even in the second place on GC last year, he was still there thinking how he can win this race, how the team can do something to try something different to put Jonas in trouble. Even the year before when he was coming back

from the injury and pays bus, he won this stage. And those kind of performances made us think that give Jonas one year where he has a straight run at this race, he could challenge, but he's been worse this year. And not just that, he's body language.

He's coming across the line, even losing a few seconds on the group he was with. It's a shame to see him like that. He's a great champion, but that added with the comments that came out yesterday, it makes you one of the timing

of that. Yeah, and it's just changes the whole dynamic of the race. Like typically, we see 10 guys on the last climb. Colleaders team is doing tempo. They start losing their guys, like the GC guys are perhaps

going to start taking advantage of that. Today, we saw them lose their teammates. And they just slow down and said, OK, I'm good with this. And then Tate goes, and they don't even react. They didn't even react.

They're just fighting for second place right now. They're like, OK, go ahead. I'm going to try to keep you close, but I'm not. Even try to go with you. With the years past, we've seen them go with them.

So yeah, this is clearly just a different level there. They're racing for second place. One with Jonas, he looks like an inflatable. That's someone pulled the plug out of. I can't believe how much time he lost on that last ramp.

And that's very un bonus. 12 seconds. And it's going to be like, chum in the water for these guys. They're all going to be coming for that second spot now. Now you can see it.

And second to Pagachar is like winning. Because you're not going to beat him. I hate to say it today, but no. Well, speaking of winning, I mean, Spencer, you asked during the race as we're

watching and watching this all unfold. That is that why he went to the giro. A race that he probably knew that he barring any accidents or injury or illness. He knew it was racing knew he could win.

Is that why he goes there? And least gets that win knowing this was your question. Maybe he just knows that he can't beat the sky in the tour. So we'll go get a pink jersey. Not only that, but just different motivations.

He's one of the tourists. He's one of the wealth, like, to get all three is still historical. Like, he's going to go down on the books of winning one of the few rough and handful of writers that have been able to do that. So I can see why he would do that.

And yeah, now he's just hanging on. Hopefully stays there for a second place. What would Yohan say if you guys were on the rest day, giving interviews where you said, I don't know why. I don't like going out to the camp.

I want to retire when Yohan be upset about that. I'm like, what?

“Why are you talking like this in the middle of the Tour de France?”

Uh, that's question for me. Yeah. Maybe I should be on.

Yeah, I look, I never would have said that.

I mean, the beauty of that partnership between Yohan and myself and then the rest of the team, George, and all the guys, but really Yohan and myself while we actually had a question during the race today. Who's calling his shots at you? Just get out of curiosity.

Who's calling his shots at you? He's a poker char, or is it a genetty? All right, we suspect it's poker char. And I think during my run, people suspected the same thing for me that, yes, Yohan's just driving the car.

Lance is calling the shots. That was never the case. So this partnership that we had was so magical, uh, it was by committee.

Like, he, the final call of, I never would have, if Yohan would have said, listen, I,

I know you want more family time. I know you don't like camps away from your life, et cetera, et cetera, but you have

“to do it if you want to, I would have said, all right, you're the boss.”

He was the boss. So the answer to that is that there, it was 95%, uh, a very friendly, agreeable committee of two and then another 5% he got the final say and I did it and the backup today and what he did when he attacked the, allegedly, or apparently he didn't, they had new radio. So he could not hear anything from the car, but I'm sure they had the plan to go for

the stage when, because they were keeping the break so yeah, but that final attack was his call. Yeah. And I think that was the response to Visma going of the front and look, you got to have a big ego to win the Tour de France.

Trust me. Yeah. And he saw that and said, oh, well, I think he saw that and saw that Visma had kind of slowed it down. They didn't actually accelerate, they just said, okay, let us say the pace here.

Yeah. And then he smelled that and said, well, I'm just going to go my pace. Yeah. He's been here for two years about how, oh, you know, it's been to this finish. Yeah.

So I see. I don't buy a lot. I mean, who cares about this sooner? Well, he did. He didn't mention it.

It's when he crossed the line.

“He's like, if you were mad two years ago, yeah, we're winning it.”

So you're the only one. No. Look at tomorrow's stage, which, of course, will lead us into the next day stage. This looks like I'm an inferior field sprinter in this Peloton. You are running out of time, but you got a day tomorrow.

And you got a day the next day. Relatively short.

So here's what we're seeing.

We're seeing some cooler temps. We're seeing a Peloton that has been just eviscerated and these guys are dead men walking. 161 kilometers. That. Look at that profile.

So today's his boys see that daddy might have a couple beers tonight. And that's chill. Three and three and a half out of our stage. Oh, yeah. And also a very false stop because of the intermediate sprinter that that would be worth

watch. Well, I don't like that they're doing these sprints so early. But well, they've been doing it on later. You got to have a couple of days though, and they're in the started, it'll mix it up a little bit.

Yeah. Yeah. That would be fun to watch. Nothing else that exciting about tomorrow. Well, that's it.

I did hear a stat that the Pagotcher's max heart rate on these stages are like 150 beats per minute. Come on. Yeah. That is not.

Yeah. Well, what's his max heart rate? Well, that's a great question. I don't know. I would assume it's around 200, but it may be it's 250, we don't know.

I find it. He looked. No, no, on this stage that you just previewed, not not the stage. Yeah. Okay, it was like, wow, we really maybe we should do something else.

If that's true. It looked as fast at the end today. Yeah. That was a hard-up. So a day like we just showed tomorrow's flat or flat.

Yeah. So for him, it is truly a recovery day. Yeah. Yeah. And I'd love to see how Philips and Bounce back from the rest day after winning the team

winning the stage before. I think they got a lot of motivation now, and we'll see if you respond well to that tomorrow. George, is it that day, like a day after today, is it? I mean, I would just assume that the sprinters, look, today was very, very hard for everybody. But is it the kind of thing that it's just the sprinters that it was just less hard to get

through a day like today before tomorrow? Yeah. I mean, the experience guys are my. I mean, I would think, your mind hasn't he's your time than Philipsing. Yeah, for sure.

And they know how to gauge their efforts. So well, they find a good group that's well within their limits. And, you know, they try to think about tomorrow, all day long, just recovering and focusing on the next day, do you guys think Philips and as a winning them? I think they'll come around.

Yeah. I don't think so. Right. I think they'll come around.

“The only thing I would, that would make me think he even has a chance is maybe the heat”

was affected on. Yeah. And if it gets cooler, maybe we'll see him. And let's not forget everything he's won up until now. Like, that's not going away.

He's made it through 10 super hard days of the sort of ramps. Has a rest day. I think he'll bounce back really quick.

He's always just still positive.

It's always so positive. I mean, do you notice it? It's just why you hadn't here, right? He Philips and does like he's putting it in reverse when the sprint opens up. Yeah.

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Who's first up? Hey, guys. Through here from Portland, Maine. It's got to question for you guys about time, Peyton talked. That kind of quietness to really, lately, you haven't really heard much commentary on

him.

“What does he need to do to become kind of a more distant, grand tour contender?”

Is he better suited to targeting stage wins or classics? Kind of wondering about his balls and his role on the team. Yeah, big so much, guys. On the show. Yep.

Thanks, Drew. Sir Bradley, I'm going to let you. We touched on. Yeah. Talk to that guy.

Tom's biggest problem is his talent and his ability to write in most disciplines. You know, whether that's a tour of flounders with us an absolute gold, um, you know,

he's cyclocross, he's mountain biking, third in the world to last year.

We've seen him challenge of a stage as he's one on help do as in the past. He's multi-talented and so it's very different, it's difficult to specialise in one thing when you're Tom Pick up. So yeah, it's very difficult one. I think I think his days of running out as a tour of flounders contender, whereas five

six years ago when, you know, he was new on the scene, particularly within the awesome winning on help do as it was like, is this Britain's next tour, Grand Tour winner in terms of a tour of flounders? With the current generation that he's up against, the Pogatoz, you know, the Remcos of this world lip of it, people like that.

“I think he's days of running out in that sense, but there's always a chance of him winning”

the Vultry Spaniel as he was third last year on the right day with the right people in the race. But Tom is a difficult one because as I say, Tom could do many things. What do you mean? I mean, it's tough.

I did not expect him. He crashed on that first big downhill of the day, I would just catch a game and this is the fact that the guy leased likely to crash on a downhill, he is the best to send just, you know, drew and made, he is the best to sender in the Peloton full stop, but he, his teammate actually looked like he heard himself pretty badly, but Tom got up, made it back, still

top 10 in the tour. Yeah. And like you said, look, I was, whereas many hats and cycling disciplines, but I think last

year, a third place, well, it's before us as a breakthrough performance firm, gave

him some confidence, and it's clear that he's going for the top 10 top 5 overall on the serious sort of friends. Yeah, I mean, to get back on after you crash, like that. But he often has a problem where like, even right now he's sitting 10. So he can't really get a break away to contestage wins from the GC group because he's

not going to beat the guy. Yeah. He gets stuck in these middle areas a lot. Yeah. Well, you'd rather be 30 or 40 if you're 80 if you're in the tour and steal a breakaway on

the way.

“I mean, that's, I think, I think stage run in tours is far bigger than a top 10 in the”

tour. But, all right, number two, who's second-collar? Hey, boy, this is Jeff Tuff from North Vancouver Bridge, Columbia. I'm curious, it's probably going back a year, but I am wondering if you guys ever went through with the wheelie practicing and competition in it, so who was the best at that in

the podcast here? Yeah, that also begs the question, that spike handler in the Peloton through the frowns right now. Thanks, boy. Yeah.

You can work, love it. Well, Jeff, it's almost like you have a crystal ball, because we just talked about it. We'll answer that part second.

The wheelie competition always, it actually always still crosses my mind and we never,

we never did it. We never got serious about it. Jeff, not only is there no wheelie competition, there has been no biking together. I think he's working with me one time I've been here ten days, you know, I'm a little insulted, but let's get some biking in before we start time out wheelies.

But I still think about, can you do a wheelie on a bike, on any bike I've never attempted one. I have an either, and you know, you see these kids right now, especially now, these kids, like our neighborhood in Austin, these kids on these, I suppose they're bicycles, but they're more like motors, like many motorcycles.

These kids rip around the neighborhood, just really city. Yeah. That's like that for us. Second part of this question, I give the top three best bike handlers in the Peloton, Vanderpool, Pickock, and Pot, Potty, those are my top three.

You think Vanderpool's a better bike handler than Pickock? I didn't say it wasn't that in that order, I'm saying those are my three best bike handlers in the Tour de France. When we take Pickock as the best, best, I would say Vanderpool, especially when the racing is on, Vanderpool has a natural instinct to, you know, if there's a slip on a corner,

whatever the hell to hold himself, and Pickock does, well, it's very little between them. Right. You would have to say, for the Palmo, is that Vanderpool has Vanderpool ages him. And they could probably both do wheelies. Who do you think?

I mean, it's close. We were just on about Pickock and, you know, he's a little more out there on his handling. I mean, there's some videos out there of him doing some pretty crazy stuff on downhill. So I, I'm maybe I'm thinking about that Vanderpool doesn't do that. Yeah, I mean, but these, both of those, any of these, the three guys George mentioned

Right. That's the thing. Right.

You want to, this is, people always, what's it like being in the Tour de France?

I said, listen, I mean, this is the New York City marathon meets NASCAR meets a political race.

“So you have to, in NASCAR, you know, or race like rubbing is racing, right?”

And you see the guys that are not able to ride themselves out of trouble. And then you see the guys now granted Pitcott crash today that was bad. There was some stuff on the road. I didn't know if that was bad luck. There was a lot of stuff on the road.

And I think that all of those cars in that particular switchback through them off as they're going around. They had the, there were too many cars there, but most of the time, they can get themselves out of trouble. As, by the way, S.K. and Pulgertr.

Who's the best bike rider bike handle you've ever seen even in your time racing? I mean, I remember one particular guy in the 90s, oh, it'd be interesting to see if you, if you name him, that's the best bike handle I've ever seen even in the current generation. Yeah, I mean, Sean Yates and our generation was interesting. Yeah.

It was, it was a, I don't know who else. And then, and then it's sort of in those 2000s, Pablo Saludelli, this guy, I mean, I thought I could go downhill.

He was at one of our altitude camps in the Canary Islands one year.

And there's those, obviously, they're very long technical downhill's. This guy was in a, are you, are you maybe going to say, uh, nibbly? No. Yeah. But some of the, we would go downhill and I'm like, where did this guy go?

Yeah. I'm like, I am flying. I'm taking all these risks. He's in another zip code. Wow.

The difference between today's best bike handleers are they can do it on a road bike, on a descent, on the climb in battling for a position in the Tour of Flanders or Paris or Bay on a mountain bike, on a cross bike. I mean, they have so many different skills, gravel riding.

“I'd say back in our day, I, I would, I think, come off with a big stand out.”

It's really good to be able to really navigate his way through the Peloton really well, but he couldn't ride a mountain bike to save his life. Who's yours, Bradley? Well, I was going to say Frederick Mokassal. Hmm, do you remember him?

Yeah. He's phenomenal. He's a cool guy.

But he came from a motorcross bike.

He came from a motorcross bike. I did come from, I remember watching him in Paris, rebate in 97 when he was going from the cross to car for. The way we take the corners in the dust, he could just hold his bike different to everyone else. Yeah.

That helps when you come from motorcross. We should say, if when you see Pickock and Vanderpool on mountain bikes, they don't even look like they're in the same class. Yeah. The Peloton is struggling through these courses.

Pickock, he can just enter whatever mountain bike race he wants. He started the back. Doesn't matter. Yeah. It's unbelievable what he doesn't mount bike.

It is time for our Venctum trivia. Answer the day's trivia question correctly. Get entered for a chance to win $5,000 credit towards the Venctum bike of your choice. All you got to do is go to VenctumRacing.com/themoopotrancer in there. Did we answer Sunday's question?

I'm trying to, no, okay, so here was the question on Sunday. Paul Seixas, the 19-year old French writer, could still wear yellow at this race.

“Who is the last French writer to wear the yellow jersey in their tour day view?”

Services. Richard Varunk. 1992 has Bradley's question. That was courtesy of, you got good questions. Here's today's question.

It is best deal day at the tour in the 2003 edition of the race. Best deal day fell on stage nine from LeBordezone to Gap. The Lancer Armstrong did not win that stage in 2003. What iconic moment occurred during the crossing of the cold demands? I asked you to ask the climb.

I didn't do that. Hmm. Should I, I should even put my name in there? You don't tell me, don't remember. You got to remember.

Come on. It's like when I was a iconic monster. I won't give way to my team. I can write a bike. I can write a bike.

That is the question. Best deal day. The tour in 2003 edition. The best deal day fell on stage nine from Borgezone to Gap. The Lancer Armstrong didn't win the stage in 2003.

It feels really weird asking that question. What iconic moment occurred during the crossing of the cold demands? Benterracing.com/remove. Alright. Well.

Hey. Sprint day tomorrow. Keep it chin up, boys. By the way, anything can still, there is still a bike race for ten more days. Yeah.

These races have been hot. I, you know, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if not not rooting against poker char, I think he's the greatest ever live. So I think you should win. But you want an exciting race. You watch him at the event.

I've got, it's rare that you see him slobber. Yeah. I mean, he was, for not a lot of game. I mean, well, so he, he is my question. He just takes one bad day.

He, let's sip a gotchas a bad day. Who, who overtakes him? Well, that's a good question. Yeah. Remkut.

Oh, come on. We've got to be honest yet. I, even though he's way behind this. No, this, the likelihood of him making up any time is very low. But then the guard has got the, the, the record.

I mean, the track record. He gets usually better towards the end of a big stage race.

ring the guard, even though he did not have a great day today.

I keep an eye on six awesome. Yeah. He looked good. Good show. All right.

Thanks for tuning in everybody.

We will see you tomorrow morning.