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“Okay, I actually remember this happening because all my friends were like sending it in”

our group chats, but basically it's like out of frapp party, I don't know if you can still like see the video online, but I remember when it happened. It was five capacites, and they were literally at like a party, like imagine like Giajud you're at like a party in college, like a theme party or something like that, and they had like the DJ Sands set up, and all of a sudden this kid just like starts on fire.

It was like crazy. Oh, he got lit, he got set on fire. Yeah, like literally his like whole body goes up in flames.

It was like insane, but it says, I never really heard about what happened from it, but

prosecutors charged to the four members of the five capacite fraternity and connection with a frapp party skit conducted last year that involved lighting for fraternity pledges closed on fire, which left him with their degree burns. Lars Larson, the student that was set on fire filed lawsuit against the five capacite fraternity, the California State University system, and two of his co-dependence in the criminal case

among others, sent alleges in his complaint that after the skit, the fellow fraternity members provided an adequate first aid by putting him in the shower, wrapping him in an aluminum blanket and waiting three hours before contacting emergency personnel. After the fraternity members allegedly instructed others to delete the video or group chats regarding the incident in order to conceal what happened.

The complaint states, ours and suffered burns, his legs back that required skin grass and long-term treatment for scarring and neuropathy. The neuropathy is where you can't feel, you have neuropathy in your fingers, you can't you've lost feeling. Yeah.

Like the burns are so deep, probably, right? Like no sensational touch. But he also alleges that one day before the skit, he took part in another skit that involved breaking a guitar over his head, at the time of the burning incident, the fraternity was

state failed to monitor the frat's activities and enforce sanctions against it. The Larson also alleges, as CSU has a longstanding and well-documented history of dangerous fraternity related conduct, as cited in the 2019 death of Dylan Hernandez who was, "Oh, okay. I do remember this."

Okay. Who was consumed alcohol at a pledge party and then later fell from the top bunk of his

“door and bed and struck his head, okay, yeah, I remember that there was the guy I was”

like out of frat party and then he went home and like fell off of his bed because he was so drunk and then someone went in to like wake him up and he was just like, "Blue." Oh, God, and I remember, well, this one, they didn't, they were told to delete their

messages and I remember also with the Penn State that poor kid, Piazza, which was first

named Timothy that they didn't they hit fall in and like nobody wanted to call the cops. Yeah. And then I feel like I remember them saying delete everything or, you know, yeah, so crazy. I remember even in like group chats though, like some people, like some fraternities, had like different words they would use for things to like code like name things.

I remember at UT when I was there, so the two frats that we were often matched with, ZBT and Sammy, but ZBT was well known to be the one that like, if you wanted to pledge, like you were going to go through it, like there were paddles, like you were going to get your ass kicked and like the fuller boy fraternity, right? And I'm just thinking like, you know, these, these, my friends, you know, they play, they

wanted to be in the cool boy frat, yeah, no way that they were about to go through absolute hell. And then like the nice boy frat, I mean, this sounds so ridiculous, but they just weren't as hard on the, on the guys, yeah, definitely is really hard and I was just so sad. I mean, even that kid having those like, like those birds, like he has that forever.

So he, he went along with these skits, like he knew they were happening, like was he kind of like, you know, I mean, maybe he was rebellious in that way where he thought this was entertainment. Yeah, I don't know. Did he know he was getting set on fire?

“I honestly, I don't remember completely how it happened.”

I can probably find a video like somewhere in my group chats, because whenever anything happens at like San Diego State, like, I've like a group chat with like, all my like, guys, friends and girlfriends from college and, in a frat party, fires, skit.

That, those are words that you never want to hear, frat party fires, skit.

That's very weird. The criminal cases have been dismissed against the four San Diego State fraternity members who were charged with intentionally setting one of their defendants on fire during a skit performed at the fraternity house. Prosecutors charged the four members of pie cap of sigh fraternity and connection with a frat

party skit conducted last year that involves lighting of fraternity pledges close on fire, which left him with third degree burns. So I think, you know, we are twisted why he knew this was happening. Yeah, like I knew he was going to be set on fire. But he probably figured, okay, my clothes, like, stopped drop and roll.

Yeah. If I remember the video, right, there's like a bunch of people around him too. So you know, okay, I'm gonna, you know, if this goes, if this goes right, everyone's going to probably think I'm so cool that it all, you know, like it's who knows what was going through his brain at that time.

The boys brain doesn't develop fully the frontal lobe until they're 26.

“So I mean, I think a woman's brain develops fully way before that, but you see, about that,”

not even, you know, until you're, till a guy is 26, his brain has not done developing bad decisions. Yeah. Now he filed a lawsuit against the fraternity. So many of these are so recent, you guys, I don't remember hearing about all of these.

Me there. And you don't, that's the scary part, you know, I think a lot of it that's protected to some degree. Yeah. And like I'm sure like the schools too, like as much as like the news and stuff, like

covers it, I'm sure, because like the schools don't want like any bad, like this happening, like want anything out in the media about the school, too. So I'm sure like everyone, it's just sad though. But now moving on to something that's not as, not as intense. Yeah.

There was a Georgia sorority girl seen a smiling and mug shot arrested again weeks after

her first run in with the police Fox News reported this on March 23rd, 2025.

shot went viral.

“She was arrested again for the second time in weeks, Lily Stewart, a sophomore at Alfa”

Kilmega at the University of Georgia, was arrested for the second time in a month after

her first arrest at the beginning of March for excessive speeding. An officer pulled Stewart over for going 79 miles per hour in a 55 mile per hour zone. And then she was pulled over again for going 84 miles per hour in a 55 mile per hour zone. Stewart was found speeding in her 2021 Volvo and when she was speeding both of these times, she was allegedly going to a fraternity party.

That was being drawn at Georgia College in State University. She even then took her speeding cases to TikTok to address her arrest and shared some of the most unhinged comments in her video. I do have to say I looked at the, if you clicked the link and look at this article. Yeah.

That's a typical girl. She really did look like Miss America and her mug shot. I don't think I've ever seen a mug shot like that before. It was like the look right now. I mean, it kind of sounds like she's just like doing it for attention.

Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, there's nothing bad happened. There's no party guys as you know that important. Yes.

It's like there's nothing waiting for you at the other end of this, but like bad news. And I surprised she wasn't drinking. Yeah, no. She wasn't drinking. She was literally just speeding to get to this party.

“And I think we could all understand that.”

Yeah. I mean, even being in the back of a neighbor when you're really trying to get to a party or a bar and you're like, oh my gosh, this Uber's driving so slow. Like, imagine being being in control of the wheel and she probably just wanted to get to this party, but like you said, Jen, no parties that important.

You're pulled over one to, and you think, all right, we'll get. Now that it goes over, now I can really go fast. I mean, yeah. Don't me. No.

This, this was just stupid. Yeah. Be better, honestly. I guess I'm going to feel bad for her. Yeah.

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Caleb Wilson 20 was a student at Southern University and A&M College in Baton Rouge. He attended an off campus for at hazing ritual connected to the Omega sci-fi fraternity during the ritual. He was allegedly punched multiple times in the chest while wearing boxing gloves as part of the hazing process. He collapsed after the assault and later died as a result of the injuries. I cry.

This is just so... Yeah. People involved initially lied and claimed Wilson collapsed while playing basketball, which investigators later determined was false. Authorities discovered the incident actually happened at a warehouse used for the fraternity hazing event. I cannot believe this happened in 2025.

Yeah. What is going on? Like, 20 25 people are these friends who take you people to warehouse and punching them. And then like, yeah, like, come on. Yeah.

This is, again, just so stupid. Caleb McCray turned himself in. He was a Southern University graduate and Omega sci-fi member and was charged with manslaughter and criminal hazing. Police said additional arrests were expected and more than a dozen people were interviewed. Southern University suspended all fraternity intake and activities after Wilson's death.

Didn't that happen? That happened just recently at another school. Maybe Maryland where all Greek life was suspended, that could be making that happen. I feel like that's kind of like common for like, Greek life to be suspended as sad as that is.

“But because I remember we went on like multiple suspensions when I was not like our sorority,”

but like the whole Greek life had to go on like a two months suspension. I don't remember why, but I mean, punch multiple times in the chest. You've got to be kidding me. It's also like, after some time, you don't realize that enough is enough. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, to have been like punched multiple. They probably heard like crazy things happening to his chest. Like for him to have died, like they probably cracked. That's so good.

It's sick. I don't know. I hope you guys didn't.

I never knew frappe was like this.

No. I mean, this is another level. Okay, if I like, it's just me thinking, but for me, I thought like if somebody kills somebody like that, like, should they be in prison for life? Yeah.

I guess it's, I don't know. I'm just making this up.

“But I think it's probably what kind of murder were you charged with, right?”

Like first took a second degree. Did you mean for him to die?

Yeah.

That's like ways in it on it all.

Yeah. Crazy.

“But also like the fact that he would come back after being an alumni.”

Right. This is what he does on his free time. Yeah. So apparently it's all being alleged. They're still trying to figure out everything.

Which is sad too, and not the family. Yeah. Have any type of closure also? Yeah. Yeah.

It's at the death of Caleb Wilson has been ruled a homicide by the corner, with the cause listed as Kamoshio Corbus.

“Blunt chest trauma from punches during the alleged hazing.”

Five individuals have been indicted in connection with his death, including charges of manslaughter, criminal hazing, an obstruction of justice for some of the suspects. As of the most recent reports, there has not been a public criminal conviction or sendencing announced yet.

The criminal cases are still moving through the legal system. No final trial results have been reported in the news. Wow. Awful. You guys are going to end up not sending your kids to college.

I know. I'm like home school for the whole. Right. Okay. So two Dartmouth fraternity members and a sorority up and charged in the death of a student.

This is from NPR on an November 24th, 2024. Two years ago. But two members of Dartmouth college fraternity and sorority have been charged in the death of a student. It was found dead in a river over the summer after attending an off-campus party. Where alcohol was allegedly served to people who were under 21.

Onjang, a 20 year old who was a student at the college and a member of the beta LFO mega fraternity. Tendered a party off campus in July, held by Alpha Phi and the Hanover Police Department in New Hampshire, said in the statement, the department said Jang and most of the other attendees were under 21. Drinking alcohol that was brought by the beta LFO mega members who were over 21.

Which always happens at sororities.

I feel like people bring alcohol because I mean, you go into college and you're like, well, like 18. But after the party several attendees decided to go for a swim in the Connecticut river. But when I have arranged sorority occurred, many of them left in groups. No one in these groups noticed that Jang was on account for. It was confirmed to be a multiple interviews to include Jang's family that he could not swim.

When autopsy report later, determined the cause of death was drowning in his blood alcohol level was 0.167. Two members of the beta LFO mega fraternity were charged with a misdemeanor of providing alcohol to persons under 21. The alcohol fee sorority was also charged with a misdemeanor violation of facilitating facilitating underage alcohol. The startman called said both the alpha vjaptor on campus and beta LFO mega were immediately spendered after Jang's death. And internal investigation was launched.

So you just it cursed to me like so interesting. It doesn't matter. This is like an I start Dartmouth Ivy League. I think Dartmouth is Ivy League school. Yeah, I think it's right. Like stupidness does not like like doesn't matter how hard your school is to get into.

And you know, you know, you know, when you're obviously all under the influence, you are not as attentive as you would be if you were sober. So obviously all of these students decided to go to this river and they all jumped in a rainstorm happened. Okay, it started raining. They all rushed off and they left. One behind and like, you know, it's terrible. But yeah, I think that I truly believe that this again was a horrible accident, but this is when you know, this is when you just have to realize that no matter what one alcohol is involved.

The situations are always high end and they're never as accurate as they would be if you were sober or so.

“Oh, for sure. That's why it's hard. It's always always being controlled of yourself. I think that's the biggest lesson from all of these stories no matter what whether you're being peer pressured, whether you think it's cool.”

Any of that, you can always fake during getting and I think that's one of the biggest things. Even if you're rushing for a fraternity anything, you could always fake it. Yeah. Like you like you're never and you're also not. Like you do not have to consume the alcohol if you do not want to.

You know, cover your drink when you walk away or always, I mean, and now, too, I mean, whatever. But also like I would always just don't you can't leave alone.

No, I mean, you should. That was like the body system that was always like freshman year. I feel like that was still but even now, it doesn't matter how old you are like walk home anywhere alone. You should always go back with somebody and because you never know what could happen.

“Yeah, I have all those, they didn't have the stuff back in my day. Like I don't remember every college tour we went on with both my kids.”

I saw the blue light, right? Like exactly like where to put it, I'm talking about that where to press the blue light and that they're talking about if you ever anywhere you could call campus security to pick you up. Yeah, right? Like that was like a huge thing at all. We visit a lot of colleges. Yeah, I don't know if we had that when I was in college, which is great. Yeah, it's good that they're like making these things to the people safer, but also because I'm much as still happening. Yeah, it really is. I didn't know before this, I didn't really so much of this.

I didn't really say how many heard of anything in a while. I know. I think that's very sad.

Yeah, all these stories are very sad. I think the biggest takeaways to always be in control, you don't have to do anything you want to do.

Yeah. And just never feel pressured. Yeah, and definitely like don't peer pressure other people. Also, especially when it comes to drinking, like that's not something anyone should be doing. Yeah, you always have a choice, of course, you know, fun with alcohol, but I also alcohol is also the devil. Yeah.

“Yeah, it's good. Nothing good ever. This is like my mom always. Nothing good ever happens after 12. Okay, that's what my mom told me on.”

Listen, this is a lot of this what we talked about. It's just stupidity. A lot of it is evil punching someone in the chest like that. Yeah, it's all alleged, but, you know, being in a violent relationship with somebody.

Like, you know, if you have a bad feeling, if you have something deep down telling you, like, always believe your guy, always believe.

Yeah. Like you're instinct because nine times out of ten, it's correct. Just, you know, if you ever need help, just contact somebody, contact somebody that you trust. But there's, there's always another way, just. And it's not, they guess what, being in a fraternity in sorority is not.

And we're doing a, we have a podcast called Dirty Brush. So, because we loved Greek life and story life. But it is not the end all be all. There are more important things. And, you know, no, I just think about, again, like Sammy and CBT, like it was CBT was known that if you were going to pledge, you can get the shit beat out of you. And, like, Sammy was like, not as rough. Like, I don't know, I want my kid to pick the one where it was not going to be as rough, but yeah. Scary stuff, you guys.

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