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Well, it's Adams alongside Dolores Catania. This is part two of our recap of episode two. And we are joined once again by Survivor Legends, Steven Fishback. Let's get into episode two. I mean, we pick up Kyle being evacuated on day four sucks that you have to go out that way.

Nice to see that people really cared about them and were upset. But, or do you think that that is game play of like I want people to think that like I have a heart and I really love these people? I think that's genuine. I mean, I've been on a season when someone actually both of my season someone was pulled from the game.

The first time for medical reasons and the second time he had to go home for a family emergency.

And you really, you know, your heart goes out to these people because you know that they are suffering as much as you are. You know, you know, you know, they're also just to get here they've put themselves through so much. You know, going through the casting process and putting their lives on hold and like their families, you know, creating space in their families to like for you to go on this adventure.

“So for that to just be over by some freak occurrence, you know, how can you not empathize with these people?”

And especially like especially to when you are like literally all shivering, shivering together at night when you are all starving, you know, you just like have so much empathy. I think for the most part people of so much empathy, there are some sociopaths out there. But for most part we all have so much empathy, you know, for someone going through it and then to see them pull just like you feel awful for them. Yeah. In the challenge, it's taking place in the middle of the ocean.

This is, I thought, was a really cool challenge to tribes. We'll have a chance to win camp improvement kit, which everyone seems like they need, this early in the game. Everyone finds out that Kyle was pulled from the game. Camilla, who was as close as ally in season 48, she gets emotional and before the challenge coach and Ozzy go at it with one another. I loved this fight between coach and Ozzy.

I'm wondering, is someone from some writer, what did you think? I totally agree. And that's so much what I love about this season, Saribra 50, where there's so much history. You know, you're bringing these contestants back, who, what I was like, it truly was like 15 years ago or even more that they were competing against each other. And the fact that that bad blood feeds into this rivalry that they have.

And what I love about it too, is that there's still this question of behaving honorably.

You know, for there is still be people who are out there saying, I behaved honorably.

Like, no, you didn't behave honorably.

“The idea that that would be a part of their self, even in their vocabulary, the word honorably.”

You're lying, you're cheating, you're stealing, you're doing everything dishonorable. To win. And it's, it's okay. So what is honorable there? It's a whole different meaning.

I totally agree with you. You know, it's like the audience expects you to act dishonorably. You know, that's what you're there for. That's what they want. And the fact that they're still clinging to this idea of like, I'm noble.

I'm a warrior. I'm honorable. It's just like so wonderful. I love about bringing back some of these old school players. The other great thing about that moment was literally to your point wells.

It was on the heels of everybody like weeping about God. Yeah. And you can see Jeff probes kind of winding them up, you know, like Aussie. What do you think? Oh, come here.

You were there too. See, that's when my type of reality show kicks in. When the old shade from 15 years ago comes back to play. When you think it's gone, you've shook hands over it. You've been to events and talked over the years.

But it didn't go away.

So you can never trust anybody that you screwed over one time in a game.

How much of that is like you, like to some degree, kind of the fact that the cameras are there. It makes you feel more intensely, right? I'm not saying you guys are playing it up, but like just the very fact that it's on camera like brings these feelings to the surface in some way. No, we're talking about women's statement.

They do not let things go. Bredges are in our DNA and no. I mean, maybe for other people is it like because it's front of the cameras. We're going to get more mad about it. I see that I've met a lot of the housewife off camera and that holds true off camera as well.

Yeah. I learned when I went on traders and got away from this bachelor world and was around a bunch of housewives was on my show and I imagine on survivor as well. When the cameras kind of go down, everyone kind of stops, stops like being crazy. You know, like we're not going to waste their energy on that.

I noticed at the housewives they don't give a crap. They stay. That's awesome. It might be your next book, Stephen. Yeah.

Honestly, I mean, that's I love that. There's a few survivor seasons that are like that. We're like the cast of survivor go bones. Still all like hates each other with the passion. I do know of them.

I've heard them talk about each other. They and that's I love that. That's authentic. I feel like that means it's like more real. Do you have a nature, right?

Yeah. I want to get your thoughts being a writer yourself. You're thoughts on Mike White thus far in the game because I've been really impressed with him. Yeah. I mean, I don't know.

I mean, Mike White in his original season played a fantastic strategic game. Of course, he was already very famous, but his profile of course was not then what it is now.

But like the fact that he was able to make himself so unobtrusive his first season.

He really kind of like played this game. And in some ways, it's what similar to how Christian is playing now kind of like, "I'm just stumbling, I'm awkward, like, what am I doing here?" But as a result, he was able to run kind of strategic circles around the people that he was playing with. And some people say the scuddle about it is that he kind of threw the end.

Like Mike would have won that season. But he basically said, like, don't give it to me. Yeah, I have enough. I don't even know that. Yeah.

That's what's a lot of character. Yeah. But I think he might, yeah.

“But like, you know, then I think afterwards he was like, "Why did I do that?"”

Yeah. His business manager was like, "What?" Yeah. I just wanted him to get a tan at this point. Yeah.

I mean, on top of those abs, you know, like those abs. That's what I'm saying. They would show a lot more. We're impressed with his physique. I have to say, "So impressed.

Where does he find the time to have that workout with what he does all the time?" Yeah. Like Mike White needs to turn into Mike Tan because it's getting a little... Mike White is too... He's too white.

I really like him, though. I like him. Yeah. He's able to seem so vulnerable. Even though he's like by far the most successful person out there.

Yeah. By far the richest person on top. And yet like he's there and he kind of has this, like, "Meek almost like shy attitude."

“You know? Oh, where somehow I think that's like very endearing.”

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“And then I, okay, do you remember that Leonardo DiCaprio filmed the beach with like the shark.”

I was like, oh my god, he got bit like something is like very, very wrong. It would just end up being a crant, but is that something that happens a lot? Yeah, I mean, is there water readily available or already? Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I mean, that's, that's, that's a great point.

Yeah, it's like there's just like there is water, but like it's typically a walk away from camp. You know, you have to make, you have to be purposeful about it. It's obviously super hot, it's super humid, which dehydrates you faster.

So, you know, you, um, yeah, I mean, it's just like you have to like always be vigilant about it.

And, you know, your body which might be, you know, totally normal thing to go for a swim. You know, when you're back home in, in the ocean, you don't even recognize that your body,

And what I love about coach is that he's both so over to the top,

or he's like screaming and like blown and you think he's dead. Um, and then he also kind of like is able to have that, again, that vulnerability where he says, "Oh, I just, I wanted to be like the tough guy, but like, I don't have it anymore."

“And like, the fact that he's able to like have kind of both sides of that, I think it makes him such a rich character.”

Does he really believe that, though, or is he just trying to make people like him? Play it off. Yeah. It's probably something there where I'm sure that wounded his ego. You know, for a guy who's so all about honor and integrity, I'm sure that kind of was like a little bit of an ego here for him. I'm coming off a trader, Stephen, I trust no one. And he goes, "Yeah, I think everyone's lying, except for Wells."

Yeah. And I'm just not by, I'm not by coach's humbleness. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that's probably fair of fair bet. Yeah.

Well, I'll tell you who's also not buying coaches humbleness.

His Aussie back at Ceila, Aussie pitches and alliance with Devons in Savannah.

And he says he wants Joe in as well. Joe sees Savannah whispering something to Devons before they get some water. They get to the water. This causes a huge blow-up. That's a blow-up.

Is this a mountain out of a mole hill or is this something he actually should be concerned about? Yeah, I'm so curious about your guys perspective on this. Because again, I'm really good friends with Rick. And so my inclination is you're watching your friend on TV. You're like, obviously, I'm on his side.

But that said, from Joe's perspective, he literally is coming off this season where his number one best ally, or so he thought, was had the secret side deal with this younger woman and then they ended up bamboozling him. And, you know, of course he feels suspicious of that.

If I saw someone whispering with someone else right before I walked off for a conversation,

I would absolutely be curious what that was about. And I would also think to myself, like, why are you being weird about it? He's a part of it. Yeah. He has a great point by saying, well, if I'm a part of that conversation, why was an eye privy to it?

He's not wrong. And he also says, like I said before, he's carrying over the baggage from the last time he got screwed over in the last survivor. So yeah, I mean, I am totally in a greens with everything he feels and not to mention these games breed paranoia.

It could be your mom standing there and you're going to start to question her. So this is, he's right. I'm sorry, he's right. If he was in on it, they should have told him.

“The only thing I'm thinking is that my guess is that what happened is Rick”

doesn't want to sign up for an alliance with Joe Savanna and Ozzy, who he knows are the three people who are up for elimination. Yeah. And then when he votes one of them out, and, you know, I think probably at this point they already know it's going to be Savanna.

Then Joe, Mr. Honor and Integrity is like, you broke our alliance. Like, why did you make an alliance with me and then break it literally the next day? Like, I think like the risk of telling Joe there about the alliance might be greater in his and Rick's mind than the risk of not telling him. What do you guys think?

It's true, but Joe, I'm not saying they were wrong. I'm saying Joe had the right to feel that way. Yeah, that's all. It's both, I see both sides. Yeah.

Yeah. Christian's watering the jungle and talking to Mac about Joe when he stumbles across an idol. This seems like one big giant Easter egg hunt. Are you guys like when things like cameras are down or like nothing's going on? Are you guys just walking around and looking for stuff?

Oh, totally, totally. Yeah. All the time.

“And I think that's what Christian was doing, right?”

He was sort of like just like keeping his eyes peeled. He was like providing banter because that is his way, you know, as he went. He was sort of like given, given content. But then, I mean, the fact that it's kind of crazy actually that he was giving content that was like both related to the episode and stumbled on an idol at the same time.

Like he might have been like talking about a math problem, you know? But it happened to me that he was talking about the Joe stuff and found the idol at the same time. That was what I was like. That was crazy. Do you believe that Billy Eilish is actually a fan of this show? Or do you think they're just using her her fame in these boomerangs?

I assume she was out there hiding them, no? Yeah. Is that what's going on? He was in the Easter Bunny costume. She was jumping around exactly.

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This also can cradle be hard maneuver a ball across a winding snake track. I, okay. This is what my thoughts, right? So you had to go around and like this snake thing, right? And you had to, everyone had to pull the right way.

Can you cheat the system?

And then it's just a straight line down and then over to the end.

Could you do anything? They usually give you a course.

“Like there's usually some kind of like places you have to go with this kind of thing.”

That's interesting. Go around and then over. Honestly, I don't know. You may just not have been thinking about it. Yeah, that's smart.

But the thing in there would have was they really had a communicate as a team. Oh, yeah. And that was very telling on how the team is going to do better. Yeah. Yeah.

Before we're, because they really weren't communicating too well. Yeah. No, absolutely. And also, if it's just like who's, you know, what are the, like the teams that, what are the duos that you're sending out there?

Like it did seem like just some of it was just like getting, like groups like getting really stuck in that, you know, with that snake. So, um, do you send like a strong person in a weak person or two people who are about the same?

Like, so, you know, it's, it's always interesting the strategy of like who's running when?

Yeah. So, uh, winds first immunity, um, calo and second immunity. Seela going back to the tribal council once again over at seela. They start talking strategy. Okay.

This is where I want to ask you the behind the scenes. Because they make it seem like it probably isn't going to be Savannah now. You know, it probably is going to be Joe now that everyone's going to go after. Um, or in that way, because people were pissed at them. Yeah.

“Or like go to Ozzy, you know, so it's like, oh my god, who they're going to choose?”

And I'm sitting there being like, it's going to be Joe's, he's bitching everybody and, you know, he's complaining, but then, you know, you get to the end of the episode. The tribal council and everyone votes for Savannah. So, was that all just trying to, make it seem more exciting?

You mean, like he had it in? Yeah. I think so. My guess is that they were pretty, were pretty decided. I mean, people off.

Honestly, the Joe stuff. I think if they knew there was going to be a swap, they would have voted out Joe here. Just because they were all tired of working with him. Obviously, you have this antagonism that's building there. And like, if you know, there's going to be a swap.

You don't want to go into a swap with someone really pissed at you, right? Yeah. Joe swaps to a different tribe. And he's like spreading, you know, then suddenly he's with that group. Or maybe you swap on to a tribe with Joe and he's like,

"FRIC, let's get him out of here." But I do think after losing to immunity challenges, your number one thought is how do we've got to win the next one? Like we can come back here. So we can't vote out Joe in this spot. And then, you know, we got to give ourselves a chance.

Why? Because he is good at challenges. Yeah. But is he that much better than Savannah is? Yes. Very true.

“But I think especially in the early stages of the game,”

typically the immunity challenges are like more strength-based.

Honestly, it's only those like first three challenges that are strength-based,

really at all. And then it becomes like my own like puzzle-based or endurance-based. And so if you have no energy left, you're not eating. You're dehydrated. So they have to kind of switch up the challenges physically, right?

That's exactly it. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. Like they have to, like they have to, you only do these really intense physical challenges in those early days.

Because once you've lost all your, you know, your muscle mass by day, five or five times. Exactly. There's nothing left. Well, I could tell you.

I get very brain fog when I'm hungry. So yeah, I'd rather, yeah, I don't even know what to say. I'm not going to be good at this game. Don't ever ask me to do that.

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“What were your thoughts on her closing arguments there?”

Oh, I don't know, I feel like Jeff's like, "Yeah, we know you're leaving. We need the juice, you know?" Give us the juice, give us this like key emotional moment.

And it's funny, like, before I went back my second time,

a returning player at Courtney Yates had said, "Watch who Jeff asks the first question to, because that's often the person who goes home." Now, I don't know if he still does that, or if, you know, maybe they do, and it's edited around.

But, or maybe he stopped doing that, because it's become a known thing. Yeah. But, like, definitely you could see that, at least the person who Jeff was focusing the conversation on, that person had a better shot at going home,

because they've got to get the material. You know, he's got as a producer. He's got to get the juice to justify that person's exit. Okay, we have to talk about this Christian, like hiding the pouch that had the boomerang in it.

Okay, I'm not as familiar with survivors, obviously you are, Stephen. What explain to me what the hell they're doing? Like, is this going to trick someone

“into thinking something's happened or what's going to happen here?”

Yeah, so they are, so a rick in Christian,

like, have what, basically, there's very little on survivor

that is, like, verifiably from production, and that you can use to, like, really fool someone. And one of the few things is, like, a piece of parchment, and specifically a parchment from in a community idol, right? Because there's no way you can replicate that.

So in the past, people have, like, made the sort of fake idols, and the two uses for them are, like, one to trick somebody else into thinking they have a real idol, and, like, both, like, causing them to misplay, but also, like, maybe embarrassing them in the process.

and then use it for leverage.

“And I think that's what Rick and Christian are thinking.”

Is, if I can, when we are at tribal council, maybe it's a hot moment, I can find this idol and play it up. And suddenly, I can throw everything into disarray. So if I get into trouble down the line, I can find this. I can, like, put it on, and then, all of a sudden,

I can be safe, or I can redirect the vote somehow. You know, in a way that gives me kind of control of that moment. And what I love it about it is, you know, when you're in the tribal part of this game, right? All three groups are on different beaches.

So you don't know where you're going to be tomorrow. You know, they could get swapped. They could move to a different beach. When they merge, they could go anywhere. So if they, they just buried this idol at camp,

it wouldn't work because, like, they might be at a different camp in a day. Tribal council is, like, the one place that is consistent throughout the whole season. You know, regardless of whether you swap, regardless of whether you merge,

you're always going back to tribal council.

So hiding it at tribal council, I think it's just so brilliant and inspired. Because then if they're ever in trouble, they know exactly like they got, like, you know, a pocket. Oh, okay.

All right, that makes a lot of sense. Can you not go to the tribal council set just like in the day? Because I'm like, well, why did you at the stage this fall thing? You could have just come back to tomorrow morning and hit it there. Yeah.

“I mean, that's what's cool about survival.”

Like, you know, you are in the jungle. Like you have to get, like, driven or like, you could have put on a boat, it might even be like a different island. You know, you could have taken that by boat to like tribal council. So, you know, it's far away.

And you have no idea, too. You guys are, I mean, you know, you're not blacked out. You know, they black us. Like, they guess put us blindfolds. They black out like the transport.

We don't know where we are. You know, if one of us, like, we literally could not flee in, like, flee the jungle. We are stuck there because we have no clue where we are. Would you believe Christians fall?

I think so.

You just never even think that.

You know, again, like you're so in the moment. And like he played it off. You know, he's. He followed it up with acting dizzy and walking to the left. Remember when they were walking back.

And he was totally in three was like, you're okay. I'll take the lead. Yeah. And just stand behind me. So he kind of like followed it up, like, really, like,

but nobody saw what he, where he hit it. So. Right. That was so great. And he said, like, oh, I meant to do that.

You know, and that sort of like awkward, like, like, you know, obviously he had, you know,

“I think like the pants pooping kind of paid off here.”

Yeah. Because like he's just had this life. I'm sure you poop your pants. You're capable of anything. Right.

He's like, oh, Christians are mess. Like, what's going on with Christian these days? You know, kind of like sets it up a little bit. Or is like McEvelli and we're like, he thought about that.

And he should have spent on purpose. And because he knew he was going to trip. Oh, man. That would be Christian. The most strategic pants.

Yeah. I've ever hit my pants. So no one, everyone believes my fall later. Oh, my. So next week, we get a sneak peek that tribes will be swapping,

which will change the dynamic immensely. What, what are your thoughts on the superties of episode three? I mean, I love a good swap. I mean, it's something we've missed in past seasons. There haven't been a lot of swaps.

And I think it really is adds a lot of fun. You know, we've kind of like gotten to know these tribe dynamics already. And so like getting to see it mixed up a little bit. Yeah. Is is really going to be going to be exciting.

It's definitely shaken up. Yeah. Exactly. And, you know, you sort of already know who's kind of in control. They're group and like who's on the outs.

And so, you know, it's fun to see people who are in control. Suddenly lose power. People who are in the outs get it get an opportunity out of second life. Steven, who's going to win? Oh, gosh.

I mean, I got to like, I think Rick's doing really good. Although, I guess the Joe stuff is not so hot. Christian. Let's give it a Christian. I, you know, I think Christian could be, you know, he's in a great spot.

He's so strategic, but he's also not even the biggest threat in his alliance. I think Aligning with Surrey is brilliant for Christian because as like amazing as Surrey is everyone is threatened by her. Like you can't let Surrey get to the end. And I think like for Christian when he played his first time.

Everyone was so hyper focused on Christian. Like Christians, the super strategist. We got to get out Christian. And now he's got like a kind of a nerd shield, you know. He's sitting next to him.

But he also has a lot of attention. Yeah. But he's good. Yeah. I would pick somebody who's more very strategic sitting in the background.

Staying under the radar until the end. That's a good point. Who do you guys like? I was either scary and I'm usually right about my theories.

Is that the way the reality TV shows work is the people who win or never on the show in the beginning.

It's all. So so you say Christian. No way. He shit his pants in episode two. He's gone so fast.

Colby's on my TV screens way too much. So I didn't know Charlie Davis was on the show. I don't know that I didn't know that Chrissy Hoffback was on the show. I think they're going far because they have not been in the first couple episodes. Yeah.

I will say survivor likes to give like you enough of a thread like some kind of emotional story for somebody. So like for me like Chrissy and Charlie too actually because they're like they're they're so thin.

Like it's not one of the huge characters. It's not going to be. You're probably right. It's not going to be Christian. It's not going to be coach, you know.

“It's going to be someone there in the background.”

Yeah. I'm really hasn't said one word since right but she's there enough. That's interesting. If I've seen her face quite a few times they pan to her face.

So you kind of like think she's there but never really around or involved in something.

So I'm waiting for her to kind of come out. I could be wrong. Yeah. What about Genevieve? Is she viable?

No she cries too much. I don't like cries. Yeah. I'm surprised Stephanie isn't getting more screen time for it. Yeah.

And to that makes me think okay she's going to go far because they want to use a lot of her stuff later. But like I look at like the risos, the Aussies, Joe. Genevieve is crying a lot. Colby I think is gone. Christian coach like that.

I'm like I'm getting so much of you in these first couple episodes that I'm not sure if I'm going to get a lot of you at the end. Right. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah.

Stephen, thank you so much for coming on by Order of the Faithful Survivor Edition. Before we let you go, what do you want to promote?

“Working people find more about you and where could people get your book escape?”

Yeah. I guess just once again the book escape. You can buy it in any book store or any of your online book ordering platforms. That's available everywhere. And a lot of books.

Listen. Let me know. Let me know. I've got the audio book. Thank you guys.

This was so fun.

Finally, get to really dig into like how people poop on Survivor.

It's been a pleasure. Yeah, it's awesome. Thank you for your time. Inquiring mind. Yeah.

We had some shitty questions. Stephen, you rock man. Thank you so much. Please come back on anytime you'd like. Thank you so much, guys.

See you, buddy. Hi. He was awesome.

“I feel bad that I had to ask that we were asking the poop questions.”

But no one could answer a better than Stephen. The guy who Christian was referencing with the gas steal intestinal issues in episode till. No, no. I think it was right.

And people want to know people just starting the story. Even people that watch the show, they want to know.

There are things behind the scenes.

Like it's not normal behavior to have to go shit in the ocean. And don't tell me it doesn't wash back up on chart. Yeah. Come on. The fish eating it.

And then you're eating the fish. I don't know what's happening. Guys. No, this is bad. He doesn't know what's happening.

I don't want to know what's happening. It's just really good bad. There isn't a plural in the world to keep them all clean. I think. And they have dirty fingernails.

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