Taylor’s True Colors (SLOMW Recap)

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We have Mormon wife's back, but before we even get into recapping, did you see what happened this morning?

“Yeah, that's what I was going to talk about.”

There are a couple of things that happened this morning. Well, that happened. Go ahead, you can talk about it. TMZ reports season five of Mormon wife's filming has been put on pause due to a blow-up between Taylor and Dakota. Sources connected to the series, tell us production is currently shut down after drama with the shows.

Star Taylor, Frankie Paul and her baby daddy Dakota Mortonson erupted while filming for season five. Causing cameras to go down for the time being. Okay, two things, two thoughts. Would do these girls ever get a second off?

No, they never get a second off.

They, they film and film. Like they're literally filming season four before they even do the reunion for season three. It is the absolute insanity and, by the way, Taylor, move on. You are getting in fights with your baby daddy when you've like, well, even on this, these couple of episodes are going to recap. Like you guys have moved on, but they haven't, that's the problem.

Well, then get your shit together in this toxic relationship, but the problem for me is, I'm worried this is going to, what this is going to do to the batch threat. Well, so, as you know, Bachelet season 22 premieres on Sunday, March 22nd on ABC of course. Um, it just makes her time on the batch threat seem fake. I'm sorry. She's going on the Bachelet, but as we get to it in a minute, she has a new guy that she's dating.

That she brings on right beforehand. That she finds on TikTok. TikTok and then when they showed his singing, I could have died. Right. So I don't know.

I just, it's crazy that they just film non-stop. I'm actually surprised now that I've seen all of this, that they ended up casting her in the Bachelor. That's right. Oh, God, let's get into it because I don't know if I'm going to like the season. I don't know, but I, it's, the guys are really involved.

But that's the thing. It's like, what are they doing?

I haven't, I watched the first three episodes and it's like, it's, it's like dad talk now.

I don't know.

Everyone seems like people are breaking up and getting divorced on that show.

They're going to have the guys do their own show and the girls do their show. You know it's a problem when Zach is my favorite. I've, that's what I was thinking.

“I'm like, how did Zach become my favorite out of everyone?”

Like even when they're setting up everything, like, Zach is, Zach is thriving. Right. And Jordan's on my last nerve. Jordan is on my last nerve. I give them one year.

Why does he look different to me, too, did he get some work done as well? No, he had that weird haircut. I was like shaved in the back before, and now I think he has a little bit more hair, maybe. I think he's a good dude. Are we getting teeth?

I didn't notice that. Yeah, I mean.

But you know what he also got, he got a manager.

Oh my God. I was like, what the fuck, you've been on TV for one year, two years and you have a manager. And as a user, I mean, I mean, it's using one of the girls managers or he has his own. I don't know. But I want to announce right now that Eddie is getting his own manager and I'd like

to take this time. If you'd like to book Eddie Judge, he can do a TikTok too. Yeah, he, we're ready. No. Well, who's your favorite girl, so far on the show?

I gotta say, I think my favorite girl is Michaela. Really? Okay, I, I pretty much like them all, not all, but I, I really like Jessie. Jessie's giving me a hard time this season. She is already.

Yeah.

She's giving me a hard time.

I like her because I think she hates her husband. Oh, duh. So it's like hearing about her caring around that big, um, why a sell bag, and that's the one that she takes to the hotels and then the Helkins. Like a diaper bag.

She said it was like a baby. What do they do? Kids? Yes, they have two kids. We hardly ever see some of these kids.

I know. Harley Ever. Now does, um, to me have kids too? No, but to me, remember me had it all her big crying thing because she couldn't get pregnant.

Oh, I thought I was just pregnant with him. Mm-hmm. So she has kids. Right? No.

Oh, he has kids from before. You think I know this shit? Well, you know what? I have heard is that they are doing a, um, uh, spin off of the, not spin off. They're franchising the show and they're coming to Orange County.

So they, what? What? What? I heard they've started filming in Orange County. Does Orange County have a big LDS community?

Yes. We have a huge church right next to the high school, the kids high school, San Juan Capustrano. Uh, okay. There's also, there's also one in, um, right by the mall, Mission View, and, um, yeah. Yeah, big community.

That one makes sense, but I feel like they're, they're blowing these out too quickly. Well, there's saying that, um, one of the girls from Salt Lake City is going to be moving to Orange County to join this cast.

“And the only thing I think I would be, well, somebody said I want to live close to the ocean.”

Didn't Jen say that? Yeah, Jen said I want to live close to the ocean, but they just now move back to Salt Lake City. Huh. I don't know.

But some of my friends know some of the girls that are maces, mom lives in overseas, so maybe that's what it is. Could be. I just thought it would be, I, I'm actually shocked that Demi, to me, was, um, on the show that much.

I thought that she was not going to be participating as much after last season. I mean, the fact that we had to come, we have her singing, and I can't, I can't. Her voice wasn't too bad. No, but the way she's coaching her husband, oh, I know she's a little bit of controlling. It actually either one of their voices were horrible, um, better than mine.

True colors shine in the room, I want your true, I'm like, how did they get that covered? Clear. How did they get that cleared? I don't know. Why is it Cindy Lopper who sings that song?

I think so. I mean, you made it so hard for me to tell what song I want. You want to sing with me? I want your true colors shine in through, um, that was, I mean, that was very housewifey of them.

“Remember the times when every housewife wanted to have a song?”

Yes, I remember those times, but, um, gosh, all right, but let's, let's break down this episode. It's episode one season four, um, as Chase helps Taylor Pack, Taylor speaks about her

it all go.

Chase says he would date Taylor in a heartbeat.

Now would you want to see Chase and Taylor hook up? I mean, let's be clear, Chase would date Dakota to be on the show. Well, yeah, probably, but also, I think they both have anger issues like Chase later on. He's like borderline mean, like abusive, like the way he talks, like he's, he's aggressive when he gets mad.

“Remember way back at the Halloween party or whatever, how he was freaking out?”

He kind of had one of those moments. Yeah, he kind of had one of those moments, but he's kind of growing on me. Yeah, no, I, I, I like him, but I feel like he's, he could snap and we've seen Taylor in the earlier seasons. She could snap.

So I just don't think they'd be, I think they'd kill each other. I don't think they'd be good. I don't not think they would be good for each other. Well, Taylor doesn't think so either, because she says she is in the friend zone for now, for now, she said, for now.

But then why'd they go on that day?

Actually, she, I'm sorry, she said her in Dakota were in the friend zone.

So I feel like she's open to get back together with him. By the way, Dakota's cute. I think he's very cute. I, you love Dakota, you love yourself from Dakota. I just do.

It's just those blue eyes. I just think he's really cute. And she keeps pushing me away, so he has to keep sleeping with people.

“You know, one of those things, you're going to kick your guy to the curb.”

He's going to find some other, well, I mean, even the fact that we know that they slept together the night before she left for the Bad Saret, it's too much. Wait. Did I miss that? Yes.

They slept together before she went to film the Bad Saret. Yeah, this just makes it all seem even more fake that she's trying to find love. I know.

She cheated on all those men.

She cheated. She cheated. She pretty cheated. I don't like that. She cheated.

I don't like that. But then Michaela and Macy get lunch, Michaela brings up how not taking drugs during her. There's the worst. Yeah, no shit.

Worst decision of any girl's life. You only do what if you have to. Yeah. Right. The fact that I mean, she may as well have just gotten one of those like tubs.

Well, I have, did you have any of your children naturally? One of my epidurals didn't work. Well, I had Ryan naturally, only because they didn't do epidurals back then unless there was an issue. Oh, no.

They're like, yeah, die! You know it all the way. But then they called gender letter know that, to me, is going to be invited to the presidency.

“Do you think this was their way of like producers like you have to invite her?”

She's part of this cast. I know you all hate her. But she's not part of this cast. I mean, the fact that every time they paned to her professionals and it's just anti-chair and her age and the anti-chair, it kills me.

Why do you think she refused to do confessionals? And do you think that was the demise of her being a full-time cast member? I think that was the demise of her being a full-time cast member. And my guess has something to do with what goes down with Marceano. Yeah.

But I mean, not a good move because you want to be able to talk in your confessionals because a lot of times that dictates what we see on TV and can actually change people's minds. Yeah. In a sick way. She doesn't want to.

And another thing I was confused about, I thought Marceano lost his job at... I did too. Yeah. That was everywhere last year that he lost his job. Well, the thing is, as they filmed the shit back to back to back that we don't know,

he could have lost his job after this. Yeah. I doubt it. I mean, I wasn't that long ago that season three was released. I also didn't know this was a hook-up show.

Villa was? Yeah. I didn't know. I also didn't know that it changes places all the time. Oh, I didn't know that either.

Because they were in Italy and then they were in, because they said something like being in London. I'm like, oh, ding, dong. They're not in London. Yeah.

No, they're all over the place. But Jesse's glad that Jordan is putting in the effort to fix the relationship, but it's still rocky. I'm missing where the effort is. Well, nothing says rebuilding trust quite like going back to the exact place your wife

kissed another guy. Right? So you can sit there and order him. He can serve you.

Now, is this going to air on Vanderpump Villa?

Villa? So this air.

“So that's, so is that why they couldn't really say much about it?”

Or why they didn't do any filming there? Well, I don't think they could do it because it's, I think, Vanderpump Villa is on a regular scheduled release pattern. And I think that mom talk is this on, it's on, like, rapid speed. Would you like me to buy you Jordan's dad talk hat, so you can wear it?

The fact that he wore it on the way to this trip. Oh, wait. Did you see Miranda? Was it Miranda's? Wait.

No. Who's husband was wearing it and they said, oh, he reminded me of Jordan. I think it was on a Kayla's husband. Maybe. But it kept changing.

It was bad editing. He'd have one hat on. And then the next, they would be talking and they'd hand in. You'd have a different hat on. And they'd hand.

And then he'd be back in the dad talk hat. I'm like, this is what I'm talking about. I should be editing. It's everything gets all smushed together because they release everything at once. Yeah.

So it's like we're talking about the first two episodes.

But now I've seen all these spoilers for the rest of the season. So my mind is having a hard time differentiating what I've seen versus what's on the internet. And I just, I've read, I mean, I know I love when people drop all the episodes, but I think this is too much.

I know I thought about that, like for housewives, like how would that feel?

“And I think that's how they get away with or how they have them filming so quickly.”

Is that they just drop? I don't even know how many episodes they have. Let's say 10. And then they're already filming next season. They drop them and they're already filming.

So that would be more of a difficult situation to film. Like you be busy all year round. Yeah. Nothing. It's a snowing stop.

So Jordan reveals that he is the leader of Dad Talk.

And he had his manager reach out to them going to Vanderpump Villa. I mean, Jordan showed up this season with not only new teeth, but a new ego. It's just kind of annoying because obviously Vanderpump Villa is on Hulu, right? Yeah. And there's a lot of cross-promotion, promotion between the different shows on Hulu.

And then there's so many like the Swig, you know Swig's pain. You know they're pain. You know they're an appetizer. Like it's just so, I don't know. It just doesn't look so safe.

“It's making it hard for me to get like super obsessed.”

Yeah. What's season one? Yeah. Yeah. Especially if we have to watch the guys all season.

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Then we're going to lay let hang out and let us know that Layla is finally officially with Mason. That is Chase's brother. What do you think about Mason?

“I mean, I think he's cute, I think he's a nice guy.”

Do I think he's super into Layla now? He doesn't talk. Yeah, he doesn't say anything. Well, how does he have room to say anything? The other guys are so loud.

He just looks like he's always like looking around, not saying anything.

You know, posing like CrossFit, Jesus Christ. You know, I don't know. But then Layla then tells Miranda that Taylor and Chase went on a date, which makes Miranda emotional. If you were Miranda, would you actually get mad at Taylor for dating Chase? I mean, yeah, for everything that she said that they've been through most likely.

But I also don't know that Miranda has many feelings. And that makes me seem like I show inflection in my mind. True, she's so cute though, she really is just so adorable. But I mean, that's like me going up, you're done with Edwin. I'm going to go out with them.

I'm just going to go on a date. Don't worry about it. I'm just going to go to this swag and then out dinner, but it's supposed to be just swag. But then we were having such a good time. We decided to add it to dinner.

I love that Layla was stirring the pot by saying Taylor and Chase went on a date. She was trying to spell it out from Miranda to single people going to a place that served food. Yeah. Nobody else present. But I mean, he was flirting with her the whole time.

Well, he wants to be with her. I mean, it isn't that how all this problem started in the beginning. Yeah. Because they took it to far and he told her at the gym that he thought she was hot or had a dream about her. Yeah.

Then we're at the sipping sea and Miranda asked Taylor to talk about her date with Chase. Taylor apologizes and promises there's nothing between her and Chase. There might be nothing between her and Chase. Right. But there is something between Chase and Chase.

Yeah. Exactly. And you can see how like this. This is bothersome after all the years of, you know, what they've gone back and forth with. And then something that, you know, they have, we see all the kids together.

You know, everyone's there. Um, Michaela is about to release butterflies for new beginning and Jordan to tell everyone that dad talk has invited has been invited. He cuts her off. I know. It was so rude.

I mean, oh, by the way, dad talk is going to Vanderbilt villa. And everybody's invited except for you.

Yes. That's what I'm saying.

These cross promotions not cutting it for me.

It just looks fake. And this poor butterflies could barely get out of that little hot dog. They're out of breath. They're in that, they're in that thing for so long. I mean, them trying to make dad talk happen is just, it gives me the egg.

And I don't think any of the girls are into it either. Well, why can't the woman just have their own thing? Like, why yet again men writing on the co-tells of women? Because they don't, the men don't want to have jobs. So they want to try to pretend that they're, you know, adding to the pot.

It's so crazy to me that these men are so comfortable with saying, yeah. We don't have jobs. Yeah, no. We're just watching them. Make them talk.

Well, they do get some custom suits fitted for the villa.

They were not kind of done with the house scene.

But they could have, yeah, they just want to look sharp. So Chase convinced Mason to come on the trip, too. I mean, why? Chase thinks Mason will be loyal to Leyla, but Jordan says he doesn't have much faith in that relationship. Jordan calls Mason a CrossFit Jesus.

Yeah, CrossFit Jesus.

“But I think it's because we have to remember that Chase has hooked up with Leyla.”

Leyla is doing a lot of things. She's doing a lot. Right. And we also know that they're no longer together, right? And Mason.

I don't know if we know that. Do we know that? I've seen it. Correct. Yeah.

Well, that kind of makes sense.

But first, then we see Whitney and her family move to Leyla for dancing with the stars.

And since the afflux haven't found a place yet there staying with the Levits for now, this would give me so much stress. I can't even tell you. My question is, when they rolled up with the you haul, what the, they're bringing everything they own? Well, because I think they were coming from Arizona.

Arizona? Yeah, because this isn't out where they were living before. I thought they were in Utah. No. They were like, he was deciding if he was going to go to law school or if they were going to follow Jen.

“So I think they just keep that you haul on tap.”

Just in case. Just wanted to, yeah, and they're in line of vehicles, they just got with all their stuff shit. I'll just shit in it. Would you want to live with somebody else? No.

Why competing against them as well? No. And granted, they don't do it for long, I guess. But even the time that they were doing it and all those kids and all the chaos. And like, it just wasn't working for me.

I had a question. Now, because they filmed this a while ago, we already know the outcome. Don't you feel like nobody wants to watch this? We know who wins. We know who doesn't win.

We know who goes home from dance with the stars and now they're showing it. Like, it's like old news to me. Yeah. But we're seeing, I guess. And, you know, in retrospect, we're seeing the behind the scenes of what they were going through while this is happening.

Jen is happy Zack is going to the villa because she wants the gossip, which I find a little bit hard to believe. Whitney is not okay with Connor going, especially since his tender scandal. [laughter] Was it Grindr or Tinder? [laughter]

Yeah.

“So, do you blame Whitney for putting your foot down with Connor going?”

No. If you don't trust him, don't trust him. If you have 800 kids and you're about to start filming, like, well, that's the bigger thing. It's like she's moving to LA, she's got a newborn in these kids, and she's going to be practicing. I'm assuming they have a whole time man, he then.

No, it made it seem like only Jen did. Because my brother later, Jen was there. But how do you do all that stuff and not have somebody watch? Well, I think Connor does it. And it seems like the guys were gone for one day.

It seems like they were gone for half a day. Right? Well, Jessie helps Taylor organize her new house. Now, did we find out why Taylor moved? Did she buy a house?

I know she wanted a fresh new start somewhere that didn't have to cook. She had her baby there at her last place. She was with Dakota there. I think she just wants a fresh, fresh go, then. I'm probably her least was that.

That sounds like it. Taylor tells Jessie she had a crush on a guy. She met on TikTok. Do you like how much the fourth wall is broken on this show? Sometimes I don't mind it.

Sometimes I feel like they're shoving it down our throat. Yeah. But Taylor meeting somebody on TikTok live. Sadly feels like a natural progression for her.

I am shocked by the guy though.

Somebody said he looks like Dakota.

“I'm like, oh, don't you do that to Dakota.”

It does not look like Dakota. You're like leading. You're like part of Dakota's fan club. I am. I think he's so cute.

I don't necessarily agree with everything he does. But here's the thing. She don't want him back. She kicks him to the curb. He goes to screw somebody.

And then you're upset about it. And then she wants him back again. She wants him back. And then she kicks him to the curb. And then the boy has needs.

Maybe he shouldn't have gone after your friend. Your mom's friend.

But yeah, maybe he should take it down.

Maybe he shouldn't be in dad talk. Because he's not even a part of it. Good. But all the boys supposedly love him. Even though we see what happens after all the girls are like,

Huh? Yeah? You love him? He's fun. He's funny.

Gosh. Well, Layla throws a bon voyage party for the boys. Chase tells Layla that Jordan is pushing Mason to be unfaithful at the villa.

“I think Jesse Jordan wants to be in faithful at the villa to get back at his wife.”

Yeah. Well, what about how he knows their days are numbered? Jordan and Jesse, by the time they arrive at this event, Jesse and Jordan are at each other's roads. Shocker, right?

Yeah. Like Jordan and Jesse, I guess they had a fight the night before so bad before the party that Jesse had to stay in a hotel. And then Jesse gets emotional crying, sounds like a sad puppy. She and Jordan aren't healthy, but it's hard to face it.

And then when Layla confronts Jordan about his comments, Jordan responds by saying that every one of Layla's ex-boyfriends she has cheated on them. Do you think that's true? I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. And then Jesse's over embarrassed enough to leave. Jesse and Jordan are having the passive aggressive Olympics during this time. Well, they're not going to stay together. There's no way.

She's too cute for him. I know, but she said that this was the biggest mistake of her life to get this other additional work done. No, how she had that work done yet? Yeah.

Right now on the show, she's had it. It doesn't happen during filming? No, we're sure. You sure? I think we're seeing it.

I don't think we are. Well, she looks different than us. Because they filmed this a long time ago. They filmed this like before the reunion. And I feel like the work thing was just recent last couple months.

Well, then how come she looks different already? They look different. You know, how it is. Get a reality job and suddenly you turn into a different human being. But you didn't have got a new face.

Do we think Layla's been like, you know, a nonstop cheater on all these guys? I don't know what I need more information on that. We know Layla's a good potster, but that's really all we get from the Layla. Do you remember when Layla started the show? She was very, she said no words.

I said no words. Remember we interviewed her and we're like, we're going to need you to step up. Okay.

We interviewed the three girls and we never, but she actually had more in our interview than she did.

Well, she said she told us then she's like, oh, don't worry. I have more to say in the following season. She's like, don't worry. I'm coming to stir the pot for everybody else. This is coming season.

Mm-hmm. But she's there. Well, then we have, and the next episode, Ben, the tiptock live guy, flies to Utah to see Taylor.

“Despite the fact that she's going to be the new batch threat, that's what's so mind-blowing.”

Did you think that Ben and Taylor had chemistry? Was this the very first time she saw him in person? Yes. And then she said she flew him there. I'm just confused with her outfit choice.

I'm not confused because it's always what she wears, but I can't tell if Taylor's brand of chaos is good for the batch threat are going to make the show jump shark. Well, here's the thing with Taylor. I like pretty much everything that comes out of her mouth, and I feel like she has become somewhat of a voice of reason at time.

I just need her to make a little bit more of an effort and remind her she's on TV. Like, you go wear a t-shirt. Like, just make sure it's ironed and snow and it's from. I don't mean it doesn't bother you. Does it bother you?

No, it doesn't. I can think because I think she's so cute. She is adorable. But I just, I, she just doesn't give a shit. I guess.

I mean, we saw her when Ben gets there. She changes from her original t-shirt from the camote to like a, um, I think she had a regular

Right? I mean, I wonder why she needed a change. Was it a different day? She was getting dressed up. No, it was the same day.

Remember, he came to the, she went to go pick him up from the airport. No, that's the guy that's leaving for Vanderbiltville.

So you think at first, she's going to go say something to Dakota.

That's where my mind went. Right. I'm like, why is she driving to the airport? Why is she in her pajamas?

“What are the hardships and arrivals are in two different areas?”

Well, clearly. Clearly. Oh, my gosh. Um, and then Whitney visits Gin's new place. Gin says Zack away has been challenging.

But she is grateful that she is living out her dreams. Gin calls Zack for some village gossip and Zack says he can't tell them anything. Correct. I first thought it was because, you know, obviously, that's a different show. It's going to air and you can't spoil it.

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Jesse agrees to have her session with Damien Gabby with their energy healer, and then I'm kind of glad to me refuse to film confessionals because we don't need her bullshit anymore. True, like I don't really need to hear her. I feel like she's getting along better with the girls though. Yeah, because she wanted, at this point she wanted to be back.

Yeah. But it's no shock that her husband didn't invite it nor did he go to Vanderbilt fell out. No, but he did drive by the house to see if they were filming. Oh, my God. And she admitted to it.

She's like, yeah, he did that. Yeah, I had him do that.

And she's like, I've never even been inside your house.

Jesse's like, you've driven by it. And the fact that she didn't admit it, whatever, she could admit to other things, which she's admitted to that. So he was just seen at the production vans were in front of the house. Yeah, he was just saying if they were up and running.

Eddie, can you go drive by Shannon's house and see if they're filming her and not me today?

We also don't even imagine that he's like 10 plus years older than Demi.

“I know, the fact that he's so into this drama is like, what was he actor?”

No, but he was member. He was married to the guy from real housewives of Salt Lake City. I mean, not the guy. He was married to the girl from real housewives of Salt Lake City. Angie Harmon or something like that?

Yes. His sister was married to Larry King. His sister was married to Larry King. Uh-huh. Yeah.

He has one of those faces that, like, I feel like kindals have. And Brad wasn't NFL quarterback for a minute. Did he ever play? Yeah. He's a good-looking guy.

I think he's a good-looking guy.

I just think, like, I don't know. I just think he could slow down with the spray tanks. True. Oh, God. Sean and through.

“Um, then the guys are back from the villa.”

Layla picks up Jason Mason who are now in love with Zach and Dakota. Jordan reveals to Jesse and Michaela and Macy that Dakota slept with one of the girls at the villa. Oh, okay. Little Rich.

Um, he wants to get involved so bad. Jordan just can't help himself. He is, he's not doing himself any favor so far. Like, major. And then they say that he did that from the beginning.

Like, he's just trying, and to me, I mean, not to me.

Sorry. I keep getting this wrong. Jesse must be so like pushing away at him that he's doing anything he can to get close to her. I guess. So he's like, if I share everything that's happening at the villa,

she's going to start trusting me more. She's going to want to be around me. And I'm like, she's not going to want to with that dad talk hat on. No. No.

No. No. No. Sorry. Then we have Jesse and Demi talk to Gabby.

Demi admits that she had set bread to do the drive by. Gabby feels like there was emotional cheating between Demi and Marceano. Demi says she had no feelings or even physically attracted to him. You just stop at Gabby. I did not have feelings for him.

I love that Gabby comes in, she's partially a psychic, partially a therapist, partially a full-time watcher of the show. I'm like, okay, so Demi admits that she's insane. Got it. Yeah.

Do you think that Jesse's like, hey, Gabby, I just want to let you know. Can you just throw in the fact that, you know, they had an emotional affair, physical attraction, all that. Okay, throw in the fact that she was sending videos of her child to this man. Oh, I forgot about that.

Yeah. I know. But this is a few for me. We're blessed with a dad talk dinner. Oh, thank God.

I was wanting one of those. God. Jacob tells the guys that Jordan spilled the news about Dakota to some of the girls. Dakota feels betrayed by Jordan. Chase says that no one should tell Jordan secret again.

Well, Chase also said, this is why your wife is sleeping at the height every two weeks. Yeah. Here's the thing. Please just give these guys a spin-off show so we can watch the wives and peace. Yes.

Thank you, Jesus. Please. But Chase also seems more upset by this. He got a little agro about it. Then your boyfriend did.

Yeah, it was like, calm down, Chase. You're true, come. There's a shot in through Chase.

“You need to just calm down because you look like you're one of those guys that can like go from zero to 60 and 2.3 seconds and kill somebody.”

You need to also have a little memory, a little reminder that Chase and Dakota are not with any of these women on this show. Very true. But yet we have to watch all of this happen. I mean, the fact that they had a bigger fight this episode than the girls did. Yeah, but you know what?

All the guys going in on Jordan and tearing him apart made this dinner worth it for me because Jordan was getting on my last nerve. Do you think that Jordan is going to last as the dad talk leader? Well, Jordan doesn't really even apologize for this. I'm going to do what my wife wants me to do. He's like, I'm going to get back on her good grace as before she kicks me off this television chair.

So if that means riding all of you out, it's happening. So I'm so glad that I got my man.

Are we going to see them on Captain Jason ship next? Yes. What other foolish shows are out there? They'll be in the Kardashians next. They were already in the Kardashians.

Oh, geez. Yeah. So I mean, it's a lot. It's a whole new crossover.

First, we see Jesse and Jordan kind of talking about the trip and blah, blah, blah.

And she tries to show what she's thinking of wearing to the reunion. And she's like, she has her hair up. She's all excited about it. And he's like, I like your hair down. Oh, when she answers.

And then he backtracked. I mean, she's a hairstylist. I'm pretty sure she knows what's best for. She's like, I'm not going to do a claw clip. Really?

I'm not going to do this claw clip. But I'm going to tailor coming over to borrow the dress from Jesse for the reunion. She's just like, yeah, I just didn't really think about it. So I'm just going to go over and borrow. And by the way, Taylor is like 85 pounds.

She's like five foot tall. She is. I wonder if she wears one of those dresses. I want to keep track of this. That's that.

I feel like she did.

“I feel like didn't she wear the white one that was there?”

That's what I was thinking.

I think she wore the white one with like the billets on the side. Yeah. I think she did. But just to be like, I could imagine. I have a photo shoot next week.

I think he can I just come over and pull some of your claws on the time for this. I really don't have time. I'm okay. I'm just going. Sure.

Come on over. All I've got is T-shirts and I need something to wear to the reunion. So was there anyway? I could just borrow something. Anything.

I don't know. I know fashion icon, but anything with structure. Yeah. Well, then Taylor asked if Dakota slept with someone at the village. Just he tells her the truth.

It's weird that suddenly Jordan couldn't talk anymore. He couldn't. He told everybody, but Taylor. But now he's like, oh, nope. I'm keeping this one of myself.

Do you think he's like that? Because he's already had that dad talk dinner where they let him have it.

Or do you think he's always playing on on the two of the pace back into the tube.

Jordan, you've already spread your lips around and everybody. And now all of a sudden you're worried. You're worried. He's probably worried that Taylor's going to kick his ass. I don't know.

I think he's worried about once the aftermath actually hits.

“Because you have to remember at this point, we,”

me and you have not seen what goes down between Dakota and Taylor after this sex Capade. This is the part that's confusing to me. I've been broken up for quite a while. I would imagine.

They're single. She has said repeatedly in the first two episodes. They're done. And now he goes to Villa and sleeps for some girl. Why does it bother her that bad?

Because he's loved bombing her when they're home. When they're home, he's like, I love you. I only want to be with you. Two things could be true. He's home.

And she won't put out. And he loves her. I guarantee she's putting out. Well, that's what we don't know. Well, we see them and bed together.

Well, she needs to like just either take him back or kick him to the curb. She's like in this great area with him. Because she's like you and she likes him. Great. Great.

My son's age. Oh my gosh. But I mean, there's a lot. There's a lot to come. I feel like these.

“These guys and these girls are doing the most that they can.”

I feel like we need more information on Michaela and what's going on here because we also found out that the worldwide web that she has split up. Yeah. And then she's the one thing that I'm also interested in is Layla. He finds a vial.

Like what is that? Is that like zampic or something? I don't know. I don't know if it was on TMZ or where it was. But why Layla decided to stop taking.

She is the last person on earth that should be taking it. I know. That just shows how TV can start to more for your brain. But she, I mean, she doesn't have any weight on her period. I also want to know who her ex husband is.

Yeah. We're going to have to see what we can find. But don't worry guys. We'll be back a lot this week. Doing more recaps because since they dropped all the episodes.

We'll be watching them and record speed. It's so great to be back. I'm like, Oh, a week off. This is going to be nice. I'm like, no, I had foam.

And I felt like, like, you, like, just not being on the podcast for, you know,

the past year consistently. Like, and you told me, you're like, well, I feel like I've been replaced or I feel like I have foam. Now I get it one week. And I'm like, what the fuck?

Where's the updates?

“Why am I still getting license about what they're going to talk about?”

What the hell? I know. It was weird. I know. Well, you're back now.

Well, we have, um, but I don't know. I have foam that you're still good to do. Southern charm with Dolores because you realize like, I, Southern charm is my favorite. Have you been watching?

Yes. How do you feel about the season? I mean, it's definitely more of the guys in the girls as well. Uh-huh. It's taking a pay to drop of mom talk.

But I don't mind seeing these guys be a hot mess express. Yeah. It's a whole different dynamic with those guys.

I feel like they, it is, the show has always been a little bit more heavy since I've been watching on the guys than the girls.

Well, especially since we've got like some of the girls that are, the original girls that were kind of messy gone. Well, it sounds like Sally might have done something to the reunion. I've just heard like, on Instagram, like Sally girl, would you do now? What? I mean, Sally, you've already done enough things.

I love her. Really embarrassed me. You know what? I embarrassed when she was standing at the end of the thing begging Austin to take her with him. Was that last episode?

Yes. I didn't see. I haven't seen it. Oh, my God. I don't want to watch it.

Oh, my, there's no way. There's not. And she's like, looking stunning. Austin's like, she's like, don't pretend that you're not end to me. And he's like, I can't say that I am.

Well, she's been talking about him all season. Like, even when he was with his girlfriend. And then did you also see that Craig said he didn't even realize that it seemed like him and Sally had a thing. That was all shocked to him when he watched it back. Oh, you guys got chickens together, which by the way are gone now.

Yeah, I saw that.

“Have you did you see Paige did something with Courtney Kardashian?”

I did. And what? Was there like an Oscar commercial with Paige or something like that? I mean, they might as well be. And a super ball like this girl is thriving.

She's thriving and she has the new boyfriend. I don't know. I think they've been together for a year. There was rumors a long time ago. She's like, no, I'm not dating now.

But now I can kind of see why now you see what a disaster Craig is. Well, yeah, it's weird to think that she even dated Craig. Well, she's the one that I think changed Craig. Made him stop drinking, made him to like everything about him, shift. And I like Craig.

I like him. But he's like, how you feel about Dakota? No, no. I think Craig, I think he's a good looking guy. I think that he's got a good personality.

I just think he needs to not drink. Drinking does not do him any justice at all. Ah, I don't know. The part that also is confusing to me is when the girl said this past episode that they were scared to be around Craig.

And then the next time that they're in, you know, one of those Sprinter vans. They're both like sitting next to him, like, cuddled up. I'm like, oh my gosh, these two. Yeah, I'm going to think Craig is sweet.

I just think that him and alcohol don't mix. And he didn't drink. But he was kind of an asshole even when he wasn't drinking. Remember last year when he was, I don't know if it's last year or the year before. But look at you, remember last year and the year before.

I know. It's good. Jesus Christ. My brain is coming back. But he, you know, said, like, you know, we had this drinking problem.

And that's why. But he kind of like cried to Austin about his issues.

And he's, oh, he just always has an excuse.

Well, wasn't he labeled like the liar?

“Yeah, he was the one that I think said he went to law school, but then didn't complete.”

Yeah, I don't think he completed or yeah, obviously he didn't take the bar because he didn't complete. I don't know. I just remember. He's stitching Carlos. Well, okay.

Yeah, so I'm going to miss that one. But other than that, I'll be on all week. I am going to catch up now, watch the rest of. I love how I just call it mom talk now instead of secret lies of Mormon wives. It's just mom talk to me.

Well, even though it's really bad talk. That's how they got their start, right? It was from their TikTok mom talk. That's how they go. Do you think who do things going to be?

I mean, do you think that we're going to see that much of Jen and what it mean once they're doing dancing with the stars? No, I don't think I think it's going to be difficult. I did hear from somebody that has watched the full season that it's very heavy on the guys this season.

I'm not going to disagree with that. I mean, even Macy was annoyed at her husband. And like him, he's so excited that for the first time in his life, somebody wanted to do a bro code with him. Yeah, exactly.

“Do you feel like the more famous these girls get, the more maybe separations we're going to be seeing?”

I think the more jealous the husbands are going to get. And the more control they're going to feel like the wives have and then they're going to just try to be on every show that they can.

Because I like men can never just let women have their moment.

Even when they're paying for everything. Exactly. Oh my god, it's just too much. But I've missed your time. I miss you too.

I love you more. Thanks. Bye.

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