#3252 Married To Medicine S12E12: A Couple of Issues

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So, do what you want with that, um, but that is all the news that is fit for print. And today we are talking married to medicine. We did not cover it last week for two reasons. One was because we wanted to have, like, a moment to breathe after the crappies. And two, quite frankly, this couple's trip has been deadly for the show, and nothing has

been happening, and we thought, you know, we could probably get away with not recapping it last week, because it's been rough, and it's been so rough that I went on to Twitter over the weekend, and married to medicine was trending for, for, for, for hitting a rough patch right now.

“I personally think it's been a good season, but this couple's trip, I think it's time to”

retire the couple's trip on this show. It's like, it's, it's like, it's not even a couple's trip anymore. It's just, I mean, it is a couple's trip, but like, there's no, it gets just, I don't know, nothing happens on these couple's trips. It drives me nuts, I hate to be so negative at the top of it on a season that I've been

positive on, but it's been rough going, what about you, Ronnie? What do you think? Why enjoy marrying to medicine for the most part?

Always, you know, I've seen every episode of this show, and so I always really like it.

I think at this rate, this season, it's just rougher because it's so many new people, and they're younger, and so they're not connected to the group really in any way, and so it's rough. Like, brandy, you know, brandy is like, what are these people even talking about? You've got that, then you've got Angel, who's dating some guy, who's not even indoor,

and nobody really cares about that, and then you've got, you know, Mimi is kind of coming through a little bit towards the end. She's finally getting something going on as far as, you know, an argument with Toyota next week in the season finale, but it's taken a long time, and then, you know, then you've got

“the other ladies, I think we're really falls down in the couple's trips, is it, it's the”

husband's, like, I don't watch the show for the husbands. I know it's called married medicine, and it's about couples, so, you know, obviously, I get that, but Eugene whining, I mean, just two episodes has been Eugene being a drama queen, Curtis making shitty comments, like, I don't care about the guys, I care about the women, so I don't want to hear from these old fashioned loser men, who were, you know,

one of them's fighting his wife battles Eugene, and also he's on the wrong side of the history, history, because his wife is Toyota. You can't go tell everybody to have their wives be nicer.

First of all, we don't control our wives, so like, what kind of worlds you live in, being

like, get control of your woman, which is really gross. And then you've got Curtis spouting off about the Bible when he cheated with someone 30 years his junior and is now Bible bleeding on the show, like, I don't want to hear from the men, so I keep it about the women, because when it's the women getting messy at a scrub's

“fashion show or getting messy about the woman bed charity, I think that's great, but this”

stuff, get out of here Eugene, yeah, back to your two green eggs. I know, and I think that, like, the couple's trip, they, like, the show is sort of grounds to halt because they're like, oh, now we have to have a moment where we play a game. And now we have to discuss this and like, like, we're going to have like a weird game show. And it's like, it feels like we're not having organic interactions, suddenly we're like

in a very produced moment that happens the entire trip. And so we don't, the show doesn't need that. But we have such good characters and like such raw talent on the show, I actually think all

said, there's too much, too much husbands, too much sitting and listening to like questions,

“like, so those of you all husband, like, potato chips, you know, and it's like, like, why”

are you doing this to us, you know, last year obviously a couple's trip was, you know, was kind of was more exciting. Well, that was. Well, they had an option, I mean, they had to really go throw each other under the bus for that one because it's like heavily inviting Fedre's ex-husband there with his new wife.

And then, you know, you got all this crazy shit going on, but when it's just them, when it's just the core cast, they're all respectful of each other's marriages now because they've almost ruined each other's marriages multiple times. And so now they've got some kind of packed where we're not going to talk, you know, we're going to let contestants got just pretend they're the happiest couple in the world now.

Right. We're going to have heavily in Damon pretend they have a perfect marriage. They don't, they're not going to talk about their kid, which I don't blame them. But if it is couples therapy, then you would be talk, you know, Simone, who doesn't want to throw the couples trip because things have been so bad with her husband, nothing's,

they're not going to talk about there. So if you guys aren't going to do it, like you're going to still have these couples trips and couples therapy, but you're not going to really do it, then don't waste our time with it, you know. Yeah, yeah, exactly, it's just, it's just, I just, I feel like it's just like not moving

the story forward. Like there's some seasons when it's like, oh, there's like a lot of like real couple stuff you have to get into. But it's just sort of like no one really, I don't feel like I don't really need this. Yeah, toy and Eugene have been a little chippy, Simone and Cecil have some issues.

But like the, the thrust this season has been other stuff and then to sort of grind it to a halt and be like, now let's see how the couples are doing, it's just, I don't know. But if you're going to make us do couples therapy, then we need to talk about what you've shown on the show.

I mean, couples therapy, okay, you know, Simone went, goes up to King at one point and says you're a shovenist, so don't be a shover or whatever. Do that in couples therapy. Quad, you're dating a guy you're trying to have a baby at 50 with a guy we think is a shovenist pig.

There's one or toy and Eugene, you're pretending to be the perfect couple, but Toyota, we saw you be writing your husband publicly and Eugene, you were screaming at your wife at a party. So that, you know, ask those questions, that would get it going, you know? Yeah.

And it's like, and like, if you're going to do like a couple strip of therapy, like make

it like real therapy or like a try to like a TV therapy, but it's always kind of like silly

games and then you had a guy this episode who was like, he's doing a team building exercise. It's like, okay, all right, 30 year over there, 30 year relationship, what do you know about this, I was like, what did this, so it just was so, like, it was so, on interesting, it was like, so on, like, if you're going to get to the root of issues, then do it for real, but then don't do some weird, like, gamey thing and just be like light and nothing, like

let's try to do something.

“So that's why it's like, I think people are really pushing back about that because it was”

a whole thing over the weekend and then Cecil chimed in and because now people are saying, like, oh my god, this season's been so bad and Cecil's like, well, he goes real talk. Well, what, what would you guys all want? Do you guys want us all arguing the entire time or like trying to show, like, really growth or whatever?

It's like, you don't have to argue the whole time, but what we want are, like, real interactions and real connection and sort of like, real storylines and the couple trip is just where all that stuff goes to die. So I just hope that going forward, I'm not saying the show needs a reboot at all because I, again, I've enjoyed the season, but I think I would love it if we start to move away

from the couple strip being the climactic thing of every season. Yeah, if they're just going to avoid everything, you know, and Cecil, we're not, we don't want you. You know what I mean? Like, you're a fun, ancillary character, but it's not about you, it's about the

women. So be quiet. All the men be quiet over there. I don't mean to hear about any. Yeah.

It's time for commercial. It's time for, it's time for, it happens commercial. Now we're, we're selling to make, uh, they're doing, they're arguing about, okay, the men are on the beach. The women are on rafts.

The men are arguing because Eugene is mad that people are mean to Toya because Toya is trying to be in charge of this med ballgala.

Toya has never wanted to pay for the med ballgala and hasn't.

And now that she's in charge, she wants everyone else to pay. And I think that's unfair.

“I think Toya, if she wants people to pay, then she should say, okay, well, last”

year I was supposed to give $3,000, I didn't give it. So I'm going to give $3,000 extra and discount the, the people who did pay last time. Or something, make some kind of a men's, but she's not, Eugene didn't pay it either. And of course he's not bringing that shit up in his fight. He's just mad that Heavenly keeps spouting off to Toya.

Well, Toya's always spouting off to Heavenly too. So he, he can't really win one there. But he's trying to have a fight with Damon about it, um, because he feels dead. He went up when Toya and Heavenly were fighting.

spoken to like this. You just spoke to her like this a few weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. He's all upset.

So last episode, the main thing was that they, they had like a dinner, which was fine. And then, um, they started talking about the med ball. They're like, really quickly, let's talk about the med ball. And basically, people who were getting mad at Toya and her leadership, I catch them up on the table, by the way, which I enjoyed, but also kind of gross because it's their dinner.

But, um, and so they were kind of like, you know, Heavenly was going at Toya and so Eugene came over and it was like, you got to leave Toya like, don't engage with blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So now he's mad, uh, because he heard that someone said, we want Toya to be in charge to see it fail.

And I'm like, I don't think anyone wants this endeavor to fail because they all have skinned in the game. It's like their thing. It's important. And they're our doctors.

I think it's more like they want Toya to be in charge so she can see how easy it is to fail because it's really hard to do. And but he's heard it, I think in some other way. And he wants her to, they want her to understand when you're in charge and nobody's cooperating

“with you or giving you the money that you need to get it going that it sucks.”

Yeah. Yeah. And she should see that, honestly. I mean, I'm sure I haven't really probably said like, I want to see her. I want to see you doing a fail at it because, you know, Heavenly is a survey like that.

But like, I think the core of it is Toya just thinks like, oh, I'm going to give some wine and that's good enough. And actually when you're putting together like a big, you know, party of a gala, even if it's like a made for TV gala, there's like a lot of moving parts. And it's like really frustrating when someone who is like a big part of it isn't

only up throw in like a case of wine. Yeah.

So Damon's like, well, the bottom line is this, either we're all going to do the event

and pitch in and help, or we're not. So that's it. And so Damon's like, yeah, this is like a few days away, right? Why are we talking about this like, we need to fund this party. The party is in like three days.

So Eugene is saying, well, my wife put so much hard work into it and it's charity. And it started in a nice, formal way and King's like, well, why are we talking about what the women are bickering about like shouldn't the women handle it and we could have some fun. I mean, let them do it.

Wow, I can't believe Simone accused him of being shoved in this later. So Curtis is like, well, my wife and I had a conversation and I told her that I'd ask the guys if we would contribute to the cause because Eugene said he would and I am as well. We're all going to contribute and Scott's like we're going to contribute and Carlos like, we're going to contribute and then King's like, and then Steve is like, guys, guys, guys.

All right, I'm just going to say it. I'm out. I'm not doing it. I already have a scholarship that goes to the Morehouse School of Medicine. We're not doing it.

“And honestly, like, I really was, I really appreciate Steve saying this and it's funny because”

we're both like making fun of Toyo for only contributing him some wine and then Steve is like, I'm out. I'm not going to contribute anything. I'm like good for him. I think in my mind, the difference is that Toyo thinks she's actually doing something.

She's actually contributing as much as everyone else. And Steve is like, basically, you guys did this whole thing.

You never even asked for my wife's input.

And by the way, I think some of it too is like, you also did this whole like couple therapy thing and didn't have my wife run and she's a psychiatrist. And then you just want her just to pay money is just something that she has like, no say in and she's just like, she has to do it because she's like a newbie and by the way, she's not even a newbie.

This is her second year. So it's like, no, it's just respectful. We're not going to pay. Yeah, you don't include her and then you want her to pay for it. So he's like, no, and she won't say anything, but I'm offended.

So no, we're not like that. And so they're like, okay, we'll find. So they're like, okay, his Damon and he's like, oh, I've already been in and Curtis is in and so they're moving on. So Eugene's fine now.

So now we see the ladies on the rafts and Toyo's like, oh, we're going to give the So live stole Bassage, you wettie me, are you wettie? Are you ready? Well, I don't want to do it, but contest it can do it.

And so contest is like, Jackie's never been touched.

She's to 60 year old virgin. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Well, so we all, so you know what that's before. And have this like, she's getting her foot Bassage. This little, this little piggy went to the market.

This little piggy, stay home. This little prick, piggy said you better pay something for the girl with the way up. So. [LAUGHS] Meanwhile, I'm some pretty ladies come up to the ladies to the men on the beach.

And like would you like some sexy massage, boys? And like, whoa, don't tell my wife, yeah. And Scott's like Curtis, you better stick with the knee down, knee down only Curtis. And he's like, whoa, Scott's taking his shirt off. And Scott's like, yeah, I'm stressed.

[LAUGHS] I had gla comah, massage my inner. He's so they're all getting their massage, just because this is another thing with the, the couple's trip, it's like, lab the guys do something else. And there's women around who are temptation.

“Like, there was that time, remember that woman was like grinding up on Damon.”

And I was like, there was a lady on Damon.

Yeah.

“So, heavenly is like, "Daddy, you didn't get a massage, did you daddy?"”

You know, you didn't get a daddy, 'cause like Damon doesn't get massage is on the side.

And then he says, "For him, so he doesn't get a massage, right, daddy?" And then it cuts to him, just getting a full on the massage. So then, the other ladies, we got a contestant, she's talking to Angel about what they're going to do later, and they're going to have couples therapy, guys. And Toya is going to run it.

And they're asking Angel, she's going to participate because Bernard showed up randomly. And she's like, I didn't tell Bernard, I was coming on this trip, but he didn't say it was coming. And then I'm here, and he surprises me by coming, like, weird. And then he got there, and she was like, "Hey," and he's like, "Well, I don't even know what we're doing here," and like, you're here on a couple of trips and you don't even have me here.

She's like, "Uh, are we here fighting?" Because we're like not even dating. Like, what are you, what are you mad about? You're in Jamaica. Lighten up.

You're on a free trip to Jamaica through the show. So, lighten up, buddy.

This Bernard thing is just lazy storytelling.

I mean, the sky was in one scene several weeks ago during one of the more boring episodes of the season when they had like this family reunion. And, you know, he's been alluded to.

“And then they bring him on last week as it's like, "Oh, my God, Bernard is here."”

And he's like, "Hey, guys, get room for one more on the band." And he's like, "Oh, my God, are they going to accept Bernard?" I'm like, "We don't even know who this person is." Like, "Why have you not like seated the season with more Bernard scenes?" I know when they got on the man, he got on the man bus on their way to their thing.

And people are like, "I'm sorry, who are you?" And he's like, "Oh, hey, I'm Bernard." And then he just sits in the backseat, like, kind of upset. Like, his energy is just so weird. Like, "What are you doing here?"

Yeah, it's like it's just a very strange thing. So then Eugene is like, "We can't leave Jamaica with what happened last night." People being disrespectful.

People feeling like they have to remove themselves from the group because they're getting upset,

which was me. Tonight has to go better than last night. It has to. So then Quad is like, "Lady Bugs, all the beautiful girls I want to pose a question who here?" It has a perfect relationship, raise your hand.

I do. I do. I do. I do. Perfect.

Perfect all the time. Be well. They're like on these little wrath things in the middle of like brown water and like in the like manicures. And Quad's like, "I would like to have a moment to talk about our relationships."

I say, "Can you just get your manicures? Can we like talk about the relationships on like some loungers on dry land?" Thank you.

“So, um, Contessa's like, "Well, Quad, you want to talk about it?”

So what's the biggest challenge in your relationship?" And she's like, "Oh, no, I'm going to be so vulnerable right now with you, ladies." Quad, Quad, Quad wants me to be there for him to cater to him. Well, I don't cook every night anymore. I used to cook a lot, but I got burnt out.

Well, why don't you get all the wife benefits when you're in this fucking wife? What is he? If he doesn't want to marry you, he can do burritos. I'm not even pressed to be a wife right now. The man has asked me before to marry him, and I thought it was BS.

I was out here playing, I was thinking about all the superficial of the shit with men that doesn't even matter, 'cause we were at his condo, and then it's like, "We could just run up to the court house right now." And I didn't think it was real. I really wasn't rejecting him.

I just wanted to plan more of our lives, but the energy after he just sort of shut down on me. Like, I don't feel like she should be meant to feel bad that she didn't take this win one golden opportunity that King gave her to go a lope when she maybe wants a proper wedding.

I don't think if she feels bad about that, which I'm not sure she's saying that, but if she does, she shouldn't. Exactly. Like, propose. And go have a wedding or at least a party, but how special do you make someone feel when

you're just like, "Well, I guess we could just go to the court house right now if you want to?" I guess. Like, "Uh, thanks." Great.

So, and yeah, she seems to be feeling bad, 'cause she's like, "That was my chance, and I didn't even know because I was expecting superficial things from a man, you know, like a ring or an engagement or a, no, it's not superficial. How it's done." Yeah.

So, she's like, "Well, I just wanted more structure, and you guys, you've got me and my most vulnerable. Here I am. It's all my vulnerability on the table. I'm so vulnerable."

Now, like, yes. Quad. Yes, you're being very vulnerable. Congratulations, Quad. Hello, this is River Mimi speaking.

What do you want out of this relationship? "I want a family. I want to be the head of her family, and I want this man. I want his children, and I want him to stop eating out of my takeout containers. What are your own food for once?"

But they, uh, why don't you stop talking about a baby and start talking about marriage?

And she's like, "I'm talking about what I want. Like, I don't care what you guys want for me. I want the baby." Okay? That's what I want.

So, that's why I'm talking about that. So, now I'm stuttering, and they have to go. So, then, see us on Summoner in their room, and, um, they're talking about the good day. And he's like, "Wow, we had a great day today, babe. We got some ladies to come over and give us massages."

And that's why my legs are shiny. She's like, "Well, we got massages too." And he's like, "Well, did they massage your booty?" "I wish they would have massage my ass, baby." So then, I'm, they start to arrive now, it's time for dinner on the beach, again.

So, the toy is like, "This is our last night here, but I felt like neon lights was a great theme." Because what says couples therapy, then, like, blazing, blaring neon lights that say things like exits, or get out.

“Why would you put neon lights as the theme for your couples therapy, then?”

And then, I'm already. I just don't get it. So, she says, "We've got a cute little bronzy tan, the, ah, this is great. The men can wear a white." So, they all show up, and they're all, you know, going to the buffet, and then they're all,

you know, Eugene's asking quite how they're rafting when they're just sort of making small talk about the stuff that they did earlier today. Yeah, and, um, Eugene's like, "Toya, you said your guy's name was Hammhawk?" She's like, "Uh, ribeye." Because I knew it was some kind of meat.

I'm a game, okay? We mean, we mean the guys on one side and the girls on another. So, give a round of applause from my co-host, "Toya, it's a game time." So they're all going to be asked questions, and then they have to type in names on their phone and hold it up on their heads or whatever to give the answer to the person.

Classic therapy. I mean, this is what you got a med school for, right?

“Like, this is when you get your license, the first thing you have to do is essentially”

do the, "Hey, who in this group is most likely to run a red light?" And then put the head up.

Yeah, well, if you can, if you know how to moderate that game, you're basically at the

rapist. So, uh, Eugene's like, "Oh, he's like, okay, ladies, who is more likely to give unsolicited advice to the group for the men?" So, they all put Eugene's name up, and I think he was not expecting that. Yeah, it's like, "I didn't give any of you advice," and the story is like, "You are in the

middle of everybody's issues, stop it." So, who's issues, uh, who's disagreements are likely to turn into a full-blown fight, and um, people are at, like, me, and Scott just writes, "Bote, they're like, "Bote, what does that mean?" And then we see a clip of Simone yelling at Scott on a boat.

And he's like, "I'm not going to say her name, I'm just saying, there's that lady who screams on a boat." Okay. Who, who, who are the lady's side is most likely to call out the vlog, "Lay the her exax," and, um, everybody's story, yeah.

And then, although Eugene, Eugene, David, and, so then, Toya, that's for Jackie. I can't believe nobody voted for Curtis. These people really respect Jackie, to not everybody's sake Curtis. Yeah, seriously. That is 100% correct.

Toya's like, "Well, that, thank you everyone, that was the end of couple's that, hopefully." So you can go back to the rest of the book and others.

And Eugene's like, "Wait a second, twist, it's what America's wanted.

This time we're going to do some breakout sessions where the guys are going to stay here, and they're going to talk to a counselor named David. And the women are just going to go off to the side and just wait for us." It's like, "Okay, great. Can't wait for this."

So, uh, Curtis, we're, no. What is this? Men therapy? What is this? Men are all scared.

They're all scared at therapy, which is hilarious, because this is a show about doctors, and but all the doctors are like, "I don't need them, really." Like, you're literally going to different communities and bringing medicine with you, which is wonderful, and yet you're scared to like, engage in mental health therapy, mental health, you know, medicine essentially.

So, um, yeah, so they're going to have to have therapy, and they're not looking forward to it.

“Yeah, so, contest is like, "Scott, you can cry if you need to.”

Don't forget, I threw a vacation."

And, um, Eugene is like, you know, the guys, um, are always on, on the side of the couple's

trips. And we feel neglected, and we want to talk about how we feel, and someone's like, "Oh, boy." So, they kicked them off to the side, and now it's time for some boy therapy. So, this guy comes out and he's like, "Hey, hey, hey, welcome to therapy. Yes, Jamaica therapy."

And I get some numbers. How long have we been married?

Five minutes, 29 years. Wow, 28 years. That's good. Can I get a 30? Can I get a 30?

Okay.

By the way, before the women fully walk off Simone, this is, uh, I was talking about before

Simone, and to Kings, you're, and she goes, "By the way, tap into your side, that's less showvinistic and more expressive." He's like, "Wait a minute. Hold on." There was nothing showvinistic about me, because everything about you is showvinistic.

Tap into that showvinistic side. Yeah.

“So, why aren't you doing that when you're all together?”

That's what I want to hear. This discussion, you know? I just love it. It was like, I don't know where this little, like, Simone read on the King. Yes.

I loved that. So, they started the therapy thing, and Cecil's like, "Whoa." He goes, "Oh, so you've been married 28, and Cecil's like, "No, no, come on. 29." That last year was hell.

We earned that last year. So, then we cut back to the ladies, and heavenly, he's like, "Okay, ladies. "Be honest about your husband.

"When you all look at a mother fucker at night,

"do you ever think about stopping the shit out of him?" [laughs] Is there's not a night that I look at that mother fucker "and be like, "No, come clean the fucker." I'm gonna knock on the clean the fucker.

Simone's like, "I am scared. "I will wake him up." [laughs] Oh, she's like, "Just turn over like you didn't do it." Anybody?

Anybody? Okay, my next question. "Do you all have dreams?" And they're like, "Oh, what?" You know, about knowing another man. Bibliically.

So, I was like, "I do, I do." It's like, "Oh, you wonder why everyone's like,

“"We think that's why I will look at what someone else's name."”

[laughs] So, they're joking that she has that. She's on only fans in her mind.

She's like, "I've never heard of an only fans."

Okay. I would rather see Jackie on Jackie's toes on only fans. I think she'd make more money than me on public fans. So, they're talking about Jackie's pretty toes. And then Contessa tells us, "She wants to be on only fans

"because she has a plus size fit of plus size fit." Yeah, she's like, "I'm always looking for a way to make a little extra money." I'm like, "Yeah, because you sunk all your money into that "like money pit of a office building." She's like, "I think 39.95 is not asking too much per month."

That's a lot. But, you know what? Try it, see if someone will pay it, because it might work. Then, towards like, "Okay guys, what do you think is the one thing "that is like real deal in your relationships that you're like,

"Look, if I could fix this, we're good." Someone's like, "Hmm, well, I think the one thing I could fix "would be if Cecil would finally leave." She actually says, "I think that she's like, "I verbally beat down my husband more than he's deserved

"all because I had a different way of thinking. "Then all because he has a different way of thinking than me "or a different thought process." And so, I've had to work on that, right? So, if the one thing that we could change would be

"if I could stop yelling at him." But, you know what she's probably thinking is. The one thing I would change would be if Cecil were "stop being such an idiot all the time "and I wouldn't have to yell at him."

Yeah, exactly. And so, Toria's like, "Whoa, but we know that you didn't want "to have the trip, you didn't want to throw the trip "this time with your husband. "So, how could we support you?"

And she's like, "Well, you know, me and Cecil, "we are in a much better place because of communication "and talking. "And, you know, some days I have a softer tone than others "and I'm smart enough to know, you know,

“"you have to try different tones on different days."”

"Who is I liked?" She's like, "Okay, I can chew him out, "but not two days in a row." 'Cause then I'd just look like a bitch. "I'm just, you know, I'm going to lighten it up

"when they'll be nice." And then I'll chew him out on Wednesdays. Okay. Yeah, Wednesday is yell at Cecil today. Yeah.

So, over at the men's session, let's see what's going on with our therapy. So David, the therapist is like, "Okay, my friend is 28. "Yeah, this is what Cecil's like.

"Don't make sure I don't lose that one year." So David, it's like, "Okay, the flame, "you know the love is there still love." He's like, "Yes, I am blessed." And Eugene is like, "Is there somebody on this earth

"for everybody?" Because I really think I was literally built "to deal with Toyota Busch Harris. "I tell her sometimes in arguments, "there's nobody else that's going to deal with you."

And Steve's like, "We're so lucky though, "because we found our person." And, you know, if you can find the one person "that's right for you, amongst billions and billions of people, "how lucky are you, how lucky are you?"

And so then we go back to the ladies, and Mimi is saying that she has a great marriage, but, you know, the main struggle is having a child who is on the spectrum. And you know, the main struggle is having a child who is on the spectrum.

And, you know, part of that is grieving the expectations you have for your child. And she goes through this big thing with everybody, which, you know, they're all crying as they listen. And she's like, and, you know, then I send my kid out into the world and, you know, as his mother,

Yeah.

And it's really different.

And it's a pretty raw moment. It was a nice moment in this episode. I actually see if he's like, he starts talking, he's like, no, when it comes down to it, we have this sense of false masculinity that we were taught from a little boy,

like, don't show weakness, don't show vulnerability. Don't wear anything other than Louis Vuitton. Don't cry, you know, and how much money can you make,

“and how much how much women can you sleep with, and how good are you with a sport?”

And those are what to find you. You know, all the other guys are like, yeah, totally. Yeah. What's wrong with that? Yeah.

What's wrong with that? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, and I got caught up in that, and I don't work like that.

And David is saying, okay, I like that, you know,

everybody has different levels, different levels, different stages. You know, 29, 28, 28 years, 29 years. Okay. When you guys have the keeps it going for so long. And David's like, well, we've been through stuff, and we argue,

but, you know, I'll be honest, I'm probably at a tougher point in my life than I've ever been. But I think what really keeps us together is consistency. For example, I wear scrubs every day, everywhere. And so if she's ever upset with me, I'm like, but are you upset with me today? Or are you upset with me five years ago when I was in the same outfit?

And he's saying that, like, he's going through it right now because he misses a son. He hasn't seen a son and forever because of everything that went down. And he's like, this would be the time where if someone was my enemy, they wanted to see whether I would do something horrible. Try me now.

That's just where I'm at. Try me now because, you know, I'm maintaining because you can't let your situation know. You feel, make you lash out and do something stupid. So you lose everything you have, sorry for yelling guys, so mad. But at this point, I'm just not going to sit here and lie about it and say everything's cool.

It's not cool. So then that's upset. Let me add them. Let me add them. So then we go to Heavenly and she's talking about how she's worried about her kid.

And Simone's like, you know, I worry about my kids. I'd lay awake wondering if white Michael Whitmore is alive. And then I check his Tesla that I bought him to see his location. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, I'm the bitch that I'm on my phone.

And I'm like, tracking, I'm like tracking a bitch. Just me too, an angel's like, like, you know what? As they say in the Bible, at some point, you've got to put down the find mine. Okay, we got to raise them up. We got to allow them to trust in God and let them go.

And they're like, yeah, no, shut up. Like my son is like, my son does not reach out. Let's not talk to me. This is not about letting go. This is about the fact that like I haven't seen my son in several months.

And I want him to come home. Yeah, well, Heavenly says, but Simone's like, I'm just worried. So it's getting all blended in there. But angels, kids are still too young. Like they're not driving yet.

They're not, you know, obviously out and independent yet. So she doesn't get it from that point of view. And so contests is like, oh, by the way, angel is Bernard having a good time. And she's like, I don't know how to ask you. I know everybody.

What does Bernard think? So she's like, yeah, I didn't ask him.

“And contests says, what do you mean you didn't ask?”

It makes me like, so this is still river Mimi talking. So he pulls you up in a, we pulled up on you in a foreign country and said, Let me go see her and you didn't ask how he was feeling.

And angel says, I think bringing us together was amazing.

You know, and to invite him as a friend. I think that was amazing too. So, you know, and they're like, so like you're open. She's like, well, I'm not, I'm not that open. Wait, you're not that open.

Well, I think that after this weekend, it's best for me and Bernard to remain friends. Based off of all the nothing you saw between the two of us. I'm like, wait, what happened? What happened that he got friends on?

He could flew over to this trip for use that way. You would have a storyline for your TV show. Because he's just like, he comes in. He's like in a bad mood. And he's like trying to start like, well, what are we even doing here?

Why aren't we in a couple's trip? And you're going to come on a couple's trip without me. And she's like, oh my God. Why am I wearing this? I'm arguing.

We're not even a couple. You won't even ask me to be your fucking girlfriend. And now you're like giving me attitude on this trip. Yeah, I think that it's an obviously. She's not obligated to like, I'm just because he made a big gesture.

But I'm just kind of like, there's been nothing. I haven't, I didn't see anything that went, went to a ride. But I guess they did have that conversation last week, which I must have forgotten about while I was dosing off watching the show.

“Yeah, because he shows up and then he's like, well, what are you doing?”

The couple's trip and without me. She's like, oh my God, like you're not even asking me to be your girlfriend. And now you're pissed off that I'm on a couple's trip with that. I mean, and also it's a trip that's paid for my production. You know what I mean?

So if he really wants to make a grand gesture,

It's like taking her on a trip. And being like, well, you'd be my girlfriend, I've loved you forever. You know, let's do this or let's get married or whatever. But he's just like, and she has to take care of him.

“And I think she's like, I don't need to take care of some whiny fucking man, you know?”

I don't blame him. So of course, contest is like, okay. Well, that's nice and everything. Can we invite him to the med catalogue because we need some donations. And just like, uh, you're not going to use my people to get money.

No way. So back to the men, uh, Curtis is like, let's put King on the hot seat. I want to get to that one. And so they're like, what are your intentions, King? And he's like, well, but it does weigh well on our own journey.

And we're doing it at our pace.

And, uh, you know, basically sometimes I'm on the journey.

And sometimes I just want to get out of the car. But it's like a journey, you know? Okay. Well, do you think she wants to be married? He's like, well, in regards to that.

I mean, you guys are pressuring me more than she is. She doesn't really care. Yeah. And, um, and he's the, and Curtis is like, well, think about one thing. You guys are trying to go through the process of having a kid.

And you want to think about doing things decent in an order. He's like, um, it can't be an order because of the very age. And I think it's a common sense for all of us. He's like, yes, but I'm talking about it from a biblical standpoint. Oh, you guys are who this is when this is when I just start openly booing in my house.

Fuck off, Curtis. You fucking hypocrite. This guy, right? So now he's like, well, you guys are living together and you're playing husband and wife, which means you're already going to hell.

Because I know I don't see everything on that finger. And you're not married. And in the Bible, that's a no-no. Oh, Jesus loves PT cruisers and fucking cheating on your wife with some 30 years younger than you. You fucking loser.

Oh, what a asshole. I hate this guy. I hate this guy. This is wise Jackie's still with this fucking loser of a man.

And since when was you like a Bible thumper, I mean, you may have always been.

We just never saw this side. And King is like, oh, he's a coach in a Catholic school.

“But I mean, I don't know that that means you have to be a Bible thumper.”

But yeah, King's like, we're not going to weaponize the Bible against me now. That's what we're not going to do. It's just like, good for you, King. Because we're talking about sex before marriage. You're out of order.

They're 50. What are you talking about? Sex before marriage is like not even for adults. It's like for people. That was made like back.

And I mean, he can be a break. Or are you going to, I'm not going to argue the Bible with fucking Curtis of all people. And you know, it's also out of order having sex with someone outside of your marriage. During your marriage. Yes.

I would argue that's even more out of order. Curtis. Yes. And he's like, well, but you know, those are medical complications, not necessarily due to order. And David's like, well, let me just say one thing.

You know, who's going to cast the first stone, though, right?

So who's going to cast? He just cast it. He just cast the first stone.

“He's like, you know, I mean, I don't have judgment.”

You know, because there's none of my business. So you have to listen to me. I'm in scrubs. And Curtis is like, yeah, it's like 20, 25. And we're doing it on our timeline.

Well, I can't agree with that because faith has a lot to do with it. Oh, well, congratulations, Curtis. You just got a better room and have it. And you fucking hit the picture. Shut up.

Better room. Yeah. You got a P.C. cruise you to drive from cloud to cloud. Yeah. King is like, I don't think Curtis is the right person to tell us.

God's order right now. He's a little bit of self reflection and hold himself accountable. You know what's so funny is that they're actually being so polite to Curtis. None of them are saying outright like Curtis is a hypocrite because he had an affair in Dr. Jackie. Like no one's actually saying that.

And they're being quite friendly to him by doing that. Whereas Curtis is fully, you know, preaching to them. It's just absolutely Curtis who's the same person by the way who got all, you know, upset because Toyota kind of like brought this back on water happens live in the beginning of the season.

He's upset that Toyota would ding to talk about his affairs. And yet it's perfectly happy to weigh in on King in cloud's relationship and get all high and mighty about it. Exactly. Yeah, I forgot that the Toyota brought up his like pulling her on his lap and shit too. So yeah, Curtis. Yeah.

Hmm. No one is here. And then it gets worse because he goes. But you know, doing the things that the way that God has prescribed it for us has a lot to do with it. And Steve's like, no, there's no perfect time.

And Curtis is like, well, but you know, you say you pray and you say you believe in God and you believe in this and all that, but God gave us rules. And so King's like, okay, but have you abided by the rules? And he's like, well, absolutely not, you know, because we all send daily. And then we ask for forgiveness and we move forward.

And thank King goes, okay, well, I asked for forgiveness this morning. And I'm going to ask for forgiveness right now for what I'm about to do tomorrow morning. So yeah, I'll stay ahead of the game. Didn't Curtis say in this something like, you know, maybe something to do with her

I got it for more and that he was didn't say that hinting. He's sort of implied that like he implied that, um,

yeah, that if you got married first and then tried to have a baby,

like you'd be more successful somehow. Oh, yeah. So now we go to the ladies and, um, Heavenly is like, okay, well, quad, we all know that you've been traumatized. And that's all I really need to say, go on quad.

Oh, thank you for saying the T would. It's tough to not give kids not when you, when you're out, when you're of means. And it's very difficult to not give someone you love the things that not only they need, but it's what I want. And so I'm in a space right now where I am breaking myself down.

I'm like, what, you've been in that space for about 12 years now.

“It's like everything is like, man, would you like a salad or fries?”

I'm just breaking myself down. It's so vulnerable for that question. So they're like, why do you trust your feelings? And she's like, I trust myself most certainly. And contests is like, well, I mean, specifically about your decisions and relationships.

And she's doing about like, when contests are squint. She's like, okay, did we go poop when our pants did we? It's okay. You can tell mommy.

And quad's like, I make proper decisions.

I mean, I do have a hot moment, a hot, light bulb moment, says they're called. You know, like, well, I wasn't expecting for it to go that way. Or he really did just take a dumpling off my plate. Or wow, he really said that. I do have those moments.

Then have a lint just go. Well, he needs you. You don't need his ass. That's my thought. I'm sorry.

I will, you know, he will disappoint you at some point. Quad. Everybody in the world. Any relationship that you're in. They're going to disappoint you in some way.

Except for daddy. But so my whole thing is, so you love him enough for it. For the times that he does, because every mother fucker's going to do it. [laughs] And Quad says, well, I've been disappointed by him.

But I still love him. And I'm sold. I'm solid.

“And that's what I want you to understand.”

She says, okay, back up, back up. Okay, I was just asking. So Quad's like, I get where they're coming from. You know, and I tell them don't sugarcoat it with me. But it would hurt me beyond belief if the relationship did not work.

So Quad is like, the love and the relationship is strong enough that we're going to get through the disappointment. Or you won't, and you'll break up, which is what eventually happens to you too. But that's fine. So back to the guys.

The guys are talking about how they need to learn to reach out and ask for help from each other. The guys. Yeah. For guys. When guys are sad, guys need to call guys, because who else gets it?

But guys, guys, how do we reach out? Did I, I don't know. Should we text? No, that's dumb. Women do that.

Should we call? No, that's gross. Okay, let's reach out somehow. Okay, let's do it, guys. You guys are not.

Stop it. So Eugene and Damon decided to settle there. They're internet breaking feud. And Eugene is like, Damon, you know, you're a, you're a hold it in kind of guy.

But last night, I'm a little bit more talkative than you. So I just want you to understand. I left yesterday to give myself a time out. Because I was getting really pissed. And my head was about to explode.

Damon's like, like at it. So we're very similar. And we're similar in the fact that we want to protect our family. And I don't want any, I don't want to say anything bad. Damon's like, no, don't say anything about my son, bro.

I'm just saying, don't say anything about my son. You know, I've said it a bunch of times. Don't go there. I'm just being straight. Okay, sometimes in our group. People say stuff.

Don't say stuff about my son. And Eugene's like, I wasn't going to say anything about your son. I just, yeah, Damon got like worked up. He thought they were going to confront him about his son. He's like, do not talk about my son.

He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not talking about your son.

“I'm not talking about his like, would you better not?”

And he's like, no, but I'm not like, oh my god. He's like, I'm talking about last and I'm talking about your wife. Oh, okay, we can talk about his wife. He's like, yeah, last night, she heavenly was being disrespectful to Troy. You Jean, do you watch this show?

Troy is disrespectful and rude to everybody on this show. I cannot with Eugene acting like Troy is some saint. You're only mad that Heavenly said you had a tiny leaner. That's the only reason you're mad. So just admit it and stop pretending you're sticking out for Troy.

You want somebody yell at Heavenly about your dick being small. And Troy is not going to do it.

And Heavenly's never going to let up on it.

And Heavenly got that ammo from your own wife. So be mad at her. Yeah. So they basically are like, whoa, we're men. Women are fighting about women things and we're men.

So they sort of dab it out and they're like, everything's good guys. Everything's good. So Steve's like, guys, I want to propose a toast to all you guys individually. Continue to be great. Continue to excel.

And by the way, King, what are you getting married? Just playing just playing. So now they all come together and Eugene's like, honey, we got to thank everybody. Cause what an interesting fabulous couple's trip. Eugene, this was a fail.

And you were, you were the leader. You're fired. It was your fire. You're fired from a couple's trip. Yeah.

But they're definitely in charge. So call everybody who's fucked, who's fucked with this couple. All of these couples from years past just bring back the mess. Yeah, seriously. So then Troy's like, the one thing I could say for the ladies is that we were over here.

And the guys never had to feel embarrassed.

They never looked at us crazy. Which, by the way, this whole sentence was like, I hated that. Like, look at us. We were good women. You never had to be embarrassed about us.

So then I have to go, I wonder why. Which I don't know what that meant. But then Troy was like, we could go up together. We could confide each other, let each other up.

“Secret Saint James Montego Bay has been such a blessing.”

Thank you. Thank you for the commercial. We did that. What's the good night, guys? And like, I already said good night because I'm half asleep in this episode.

Yeah. So then we go back to Atlanta where we're Scott and Contessa and Contessa is doing dishes. And Scott's like, you're supposed to make the kids do that. She's like, I can't clean fast enough. I need to clean.

I need to clean. She's like, I love your new glasses. By the way, you're so Metro sexual. Wow, look at you with some glasses that have a little bit of style.

Metro sexual, you basically should just put your dick into someone's ass.

So then Mimi and her family are at a bounce house place, and they're having fun. And then Troy is giving her kids money for getting good grades. And we finally settle in on Quad and King. And they're going to have another domestic scene and King is like, Where are you going?

Where are you going? Wherever you're going, I'm just, that's just us. What are you drinking? Something that you're not drinking. Just got Kinged.

So she's saying that Jackie's been texting her. Apology after apology because she found out what Curtis said in Jamaica King. And she's like, for him to say the reasonable IVF didn't work because we're not married. I mean, that is what the hell. And you know, that's crazy.

And she's like, when did Curtis become a saint? And she says, you know, Jacqueline Walters didn't know a damn thing about it. And if she could read his mind, she would have just looked at him and said, Shut up. Be quiet.

Yeah. Because Curtis is actually both being totally hypocritical. But he's also undermining Jackie's profession. You know, he's been like, oh, yeah. Well, if you got married first, then you can have your baby.

And she's like, you know, Jackie is like, on the side of science. And it's like, that's not how it works. And like, yeah, it's mortifying for her. Well, not mortifying. But like, I can see how she was--

I'm sure it is. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, how many people does she have?

“How many patients does she have that aren't married and waiting to do it?”

You know, it's like empowering somebody to be like, you can do this whenever you want. However you want, you know. So, um, King is like, well, I mean, everyone's talking about marriage. But is it really necessary? I mean, it's like, sometimes two companies may not need a merger.

You know, they can thrive on their own and benefit each other. And she's like, watch yourself. Fantastic. I know. And he's like, well, but I've thought about it.

And I've thought about it. And I've thought about it a lot. And I mean, you said yourself, I haven't been giving you what you deserve or what you need. So, what I need is consideration and appreciation. Oh, God.

She's like, do you need a hearing aid? All I do is give you praise.

There's never been one time when you've shown up for me.

I scream it to the top of my lungs ready to tell anybody. No, that doesn't true statement. He's like screaming it versus showing it to a different thing. It's like, okay, well, how would you like for me to show it to you? The floor's yours.

How would you like me to show it to you? She is giving me a look like you fucker. I do everything. I let you be all my food. You get to live under this household under this roof.

And you're going to actually make it seem like, like, like, I do nothing for you. Please. Yeah, well, he lives in his own house. I think, right? He does.

Well, either way. I mean, this guy is fucking whining and complaining all the time.

“And she's like, okay, well, how would you like me to show it to you?”

The floor is yours. And he's like, well, remember the last time we went to Ghana. The whole time we're there, I'm there in support of you. And because of what you're going through. And then you're beating up on me acting like I was the enemy.

And she's like, uh, what? Because wrong or right. Because about what? And he's like, everything. It's just tension.

And I look at it like damn. You're on grateful. You see how that could come off? So she's like, well, I'm still working through some things. And he's like, yeah, it's been a different as a different type of.

You're definitely been different. She's, well, I'm still not trying to put you in the, I'm not still trying to put you to the test.

And he's like, like, oh, yeah, like, well, you know, that's, you know, it feels like a test.

“And she's like, but that's what's wrong with men now.”

Men are sassy now. And he's like, no, but I'll just keep on going. She's like, well, are you trying to be difficult right now? And he's like, I'm the one that's picking up the pieces. So it doesn't look like it.

And I mean, from here, it looks like you're constantly trying to cause drama and fights on TV to have a scene quake. It looks like you're trying to be like a camera horror and trying to make some drama on this show that's not about you. Totally.

So she's like, don't cut me short and don't cut me small. I go through a lot, but I'm very strong and I'm very tough.

And again, I always bounce back and I get better every single time.

So yeah, this, we know that this relationship doesn't work out. And we can see it coming to an end on TV here. So that's where the episode ends. Yeah. I was rooting for them at the beginning.

That's a shame. Yeah, I actually was too. I actually really liked King at first. But I was like, well, he's got these showvinistic elements here there. But maybe that can be sort of massaged out.

But unfortunately, it was just a harbinger of what was to come. Yeah. All right. Well, that's it for today. People.

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