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So if you're in South Pass Southwest, come say hi. If you see us on the street. I think that's it. Ronnie, let's talk about the summer house episode, because just as we were pressing record,
you were saying this is controversial one. And I haven't really been on the internet this morning. And I wanted to know, tell me what the vibe is that you're picking up on. Oh, I wasn't really on the internet.
I was just saying it's controversial, because, you know, you have a hot, plain person like Ben. Who everybody's like, "Oh my God, it's so hot." No, it's like, "Oh my God, it's so hot." And then he inevitably has an episode where he's an asshole,
because it's powerful. And so that's what I was talking about. That's the trajectory of man on Bravo. So he had an episode where he was kind of an asshole. I mean, he wasn't completely wrong, but he was an asshole.
I think in how he went about it. And yeah, so yeah, so you just know it's gonna be a controversial. - Okay, good, I'm so glad to hear that. The reason why is because when I was watching the episode, I was like, you know, that Bailey's joke is pretty tacky.
Like, that's just, she's not really, she doesn't know them in that way to be able to make that joke. Like, it was bad joke.
βAnd, you know, I think he had a right to be annoyed and upset.β
But then when he was confronting her, he wasn't yelling, he was being pretty even tempered, but there was something about it. I was like, this guy's kind of being a dick right now. Now, she also was like, she was like, oh, well, you guys were making that joke. So I made the joke.
She wasn't really being the most like, oh, my bad, my bad. She did, but she wasn't the most. But I still left the kind of feeling like, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, I felt like an asshole to me. I was like, he's just like, I was like, I feel like he unzipped.
And he like took out his exterior came off. And we saw his inner asshole come out. And all this talk about like, oh, I'm just so shy. I get so uncomfortable when people talk about it. And I'm attractive. I'm just a shy, nice guy.
And then it's like, he had this like, rage eyes. And I was like, is it just me? Did I pick up on that vibe? So it sounds like, sounds like, you know what I kind of talked to me about it. Is that he knows Bailey likes him. Like, everybody knows Bailey likes him.
It's not like she's subtle. And so I feel like there's a way that guys kind of treat you when they find you attractive versus when they're not into it all. And it's like when they find you attractive, it's like kissing your ass. And then when they don't, it's like being mean.
And I feel like he was doing that. It's like, I'm not attracted to you. So fuck off. And he kept saying, well, what else is this about? Just tell me, meaning, obviously you like me in your jaw.
So just say that if that's the problem. And it just came off as gross. Like I didn't like how he he dealt with it. And you're right. I mean, look, when you're watching Bravo and there's a man
Who's not screaming in a woman's face and calling her a bitch or something.
And it's like, oh my God, but a gentleman probably away. Because we're watching Southern charm. You know, they're Southern hospitality. You know, there's stuff like that where it's like, wow, what a gentleman he's not screaming in a woman's face.
But there was something just kind of gross about how he handled it. And also like you're a little too angry. And also obviously you do like Amanda. So that's weird. And you're, you know, you're flirting maybe.
It's like Bailey's not completely wrong. I don't think so. It just wasn't offered to me. And also another thing is is he's been dating someone this whole time anyway. He has a girl. He's a faker. He has a girlfriend off the show.
He's do is pretending he's singled to be on the show. So fuck off. And part of me feels like he was angry. Not because he's secretly likes Amanda.
βBut I think that maybe he's cultivating like a nice guy image.β
And when Bailey makes that joke, it implies that he's not such a nice guy because he's moving in on a married guy's wife. And like, well, it's, you know, if you're not doing that, if you're not moving in on a married guy's wife, like you have a right to be offended by that joke.
Like stop saying that a national TV that I'm trying to like break up this marriage. But there's part, but like his reactions sort of made it seem like there was something else on his end. He's asking Bailey what's this really about. But it mad me asking, what's this really about for you? Are you that set?
Like that, this is making you look like not a nice guy. And you don't like that because you're trying to make America think you're a nice guy. Like something was off because I kind of felt like the normal reaction would be like, hey, Bailey, the joke that you made.
It really made me uncomfortable because you know, I would never do that.
And I just would please, I would love it if you just don't do that again. And she'd be like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. But instead of kind of came in like cross-examining her in a way that I thought, just it rubbed me such the wrong way. And I felt like the rest of the episode.
I couldn't look at him the same way. I was like, I feel like I've seen the real Ben now. And I see, and to me, I like see his eyes. And I just see like meanness in his eyes now. Yeah, five, I don't like it either.
And yeah, that don't, that doesn't protest too much kind of thing. Like, oh, you're kind of showing your ass by being this upset about it. But also the lying about having the girlfriend thing.
βI think that's a big part of it because he's got a girlfriend.β
So he's like, don't make it look like I'm trying to sleep with this other girl. You're going to piss the girlfriend off. And I'm pretending I don't have so I can be on this show to do basically nothing. So I don't know, he's kind of a wet dish rag to me. And he's not really that interesting.
But now he's just kind of gross. Now he's been kind of mean. So, bye Ben. It just rubbed her way. Like, and I hate it.
I have to say also, I hated that like he just, he came at a really hard for the joke. Like it was again, it was, we're not defending the joke. But like he came at her hard and then she's crying. And then she stays in and I just felt like no one cared. And I thought that was shitty too.
A sheen Levi was like a good friend. Levi sacrificed valuable, you know, relationship building time with her roommates. Because they, you know, they barely have her on the show. And she stayed back with her friend. The two of them were in their bed.
You know, there was like a perfunctory check-in by the girls. And then everyone just left them.
And it was just like never discussed again for the rest of the episode.
And I kind of felt like that was shitty too. They were like, don't know. I mean, in their defense, why am I defending this cast? But in their defense, I think that they just didn't really know. Because they weren't there for it.
Like he didn't do it mostly on the show. You would come front somebody right at the table. But he waited and then went to her after alone and that no one heard screaming in yelling. So I don't think really anybody knew. But they just thought, well, she made an ass out of herself.
It didn't her and now she's crying because she got called out. I think it's how they're kind of probably looking at it. Like, okay, she's being a baby. Which she kind of maybe what? I mean, you know, the other thing is like, she's not completely,
but she's not completely blameless. But then again, it's summer house and people say shit like that all the time. Like, why are you going to cry? That someone's joking that you want to fuck Amanda?
You're not the first one that they've joked.
That is in love with Amanda. So why are you acting like that? And grow up, you're not so, I mean, I mean, to be more immature, you're on summer house.
βYou should be able to take this kind of a joke.β
Yeah, I mean, if it were Lindsay, Lindsay would be like, I'm like, I live this, get the way me, I mean, a fun time. Like, let's exactly out. But I also understand Bailey Bailey was in this like really like, yeah, her relationship with a guy was super mean to her.
So yeah, I guess you don't be like, I don't know. I just felt like, I felt like there just was, you know, they clearly she stayed in, you know? And like, I just felt like the next day, it just was like, no one was even like,
how are you feeling today? How is it going, you true? Better like no one cared. And I just thought that was so obnoxious. And maybe that did happen and the show didn't show it, which I also think was
then maybe a bit of a miscarriage of Bravo Justice because the show then was like, okay, now let's go back to focusing on West NCRA, which is, you know, nominally interesting, you know, you know, like, I would much rather,
I was much more riveted by the Bailey and Ben situation than I was about West,
West who's just like, quite, you know, you know, undermined Jessie. I mean, Jessie undermined himself. Like, I'm not trying to make it seem like Jessie was like,
oh, anything, the situation, but like West put out the word that he basically went
and did like a, like the game with thrones, like the, the got little finger, whatever, he undermind Jessie's shot at Sierra and then he will.
βBut anyway, I guess we, well, we just get into it, shall we?β
Yeah, let's, let's just get into, but also ultimately on on the Bailey and Ben stuff, Ben, whatever, but Bailey is ultimately so much more entertaining than Ben, that I don't care if she's wrong or not. What she did was not a capital crime. And I stand for Bailey because she's entertaining and Ben, you are not.
So get out of here. You fucking, he's not boring. I agree. 100% of him. Okay, I really enjoy Bailey and Levi.
I would like to see more Levi in, for the rest of the season.
And I hope they're not sort of just like pushing up the side and we never see her again.
Well, this show, I mean, if you're not sleeping with somebody or trying to sleep with somebody on this show, they have no place for you. And that's just how this show has always been. That's, it's like, it's a, they pretend it's a show about friendship. It's not.
It's a show about who you're going to fight that summer. And if you're not going to do it, they're not going to give you any screen time, which is why West is pretending that he's still into Sierra and Sierra's, pretending that either of these guys would have a chance in real life with her and the Jessie is pretending that he, because they know how to play it, you know, they're not going to get their screen time.
And I'm not buying it by the way, I'm not from West. Okay, so summer house season 10, episode six, the jokes on you, and we're still in the middle
of this conversation with Jessie and Sierra, where Sierra's basically told Jessie,
like, shut your face and she was said how she was really upset by him. And he has his like super frowny face on them, which is so funny when Jessie's super frowny. And he talks extra slow and like, looks down and he said, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
βDid you see that video of the guy that went viral, who's imitating Jessie?β
It's so funny. It's so good. He's like, hey, bad bug. He just keeps him jumping on Sierra. He's like, hey, bad bug.
Westy, Westy, we're just besties, one of kids, one of kids. It's so good. So he does a perfect imitation of Jessie, but yeah, Jessie, another person who does a perfect imitation of Jessie is the video game sack boy. I don't know if you've ever played it, but when sack boy loses a challenge, he
frowns like that. It's like his face is like, yeah, I think that like everyone talks about how big Jessie's smile is, but the real star is his frown. Because his frown is so funny, because it's so frowny. It's like, it really is like a video game character that's like awesome.
Like, you know, when you kind of sign an emotion to your mean or something like that, and he's just like, and he's like, well, clearly there was a conversation here that needed to happen regardless of me saying this to West. So I'm glad I'm loving, I'm like, just spit it out. So he's like, oh, she's like, yeah, I'm glad we're having it.
And he's like, yeah, so many jokes that I could. I could make, but I'm not going to. It's like, yeah, yeah, but have some self-restraint instead of making jokes. Thanks. Yeah, so they pound it out, not sexually, but fistily, and then hug.
And now it's okay. So then we go to West and Jessie walks in and West is pretending like he was so worried about the conversation.
βHe's like, oh my god, did it go good, did it go bad, how did it go?β
They just, you know, it was fine, he ended up being fine, you know. And like at this point, Jessie has like, what, but like a towel on his head or something, he's like, hiding under like fabric, and what's just like, oh, wow, what's happy? It's like, I just feel bad that like, she's upset, you know, it's like that wasn't my intention. I just wanted to make out whether and then like joke and laugh and then like not do it again, you know.
And West, ha ha, West just got the entire house to do his dirty work for him. So he's like, yes, my little boy manipulation has won. It's very much like getting your little brother in trouble, you know, your mom. Yep, he totally, like West was like a sneaky operator in this whole thing. He totally, I mean, I don't know whether I should be like, he's like sneaky or I should be like,
wow, I'm just impressed. That was a great manipulation of the house, you know. Like, I would love that on survivor if someone did that on survivor, I'd be like, wow, a great player. Well, he's lowing because if he had gotten in a fight with Jesse about it, then it would then to hero to have been pissed at both of them and been like, oh, now you're fighting over me. Like, I'm some prize, you know. So he kind of played it right where he just got
Everybody else to do the dirty work and then he's got this answer clean, you ...
Yeah. Well, you got Lindsay to do it. He basically, he went and titled to Lindsay.
βAnd then he's like, that's not right. And he knew that Lindsay was going to go and like,β
tell it to Sierra and not only tell it to Sierra, but tell it in the worst possible way to Sierra. And it worked. It worked like a charm. Well, he's he got Lindsay finally, but he worked on that whole house. He gave him credit. He worked on all the guys. He worked on him. He was working at left and right. But it worked, you know. And Jesse's like, well, a tractor to Sierra. She's a beautiful person. And, you know, I just, she doesn't want to be casual. And I just feel bad that I
misread that, you know. Like, I'm just so disappointed and always felt that was done.
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the booch, so I'm so sorry. When the right thing is done, and I'm sure the 570-year-old star-commer will be on the right point. It's a good idea. And it's like, "Oh my God, I was teaching to know about KJ going on the date with Darren. I saw it on their Instagram. I already knew. I already knew." And Levi's like, "Yeah, you're a little investigator." Yeah, I detected it, because you know what? Two people in the same
row at a concert. That doesn't feel like a coincidence. So, they're talking about Ben. And she's like, "Borrow the story. It's bed still single."
So, she thought Ben and Tara were vibing last weekend. That's a sure thing. Because he's Ben.
Who doesn't want Ben? But now that KJ is dating, Darren. Now she has a moment with Ben. So, it's time to put my flirting skills to the ultimate test. And Bailey is still kind of annoying me with her theater kid. Like, "I am going to try to flirt now. This is my three-line." Yeah, her flirting. I'm going to put my skills to the ultimate test. And this is like one of those tasks, really. The car goes dry, flying off the cliff. How does this car, how is it going to
survive going off this cliff? Guess what? It is also shattered to pieces. The test failed yet again. So, they're like, "Oh my god, Bailey. This is your weekend. If this happens, I'm going to go home
βsmiling in here." She's like, "Subly, sister." So, now everyone's getting dressed for this. What?β
Ben is for me. She will not be smiling here at the end of this weekend. No. So, now they all get dressed for dinner. It's man, it's birthday dinner. And a man thing, Kiler wearing this really weird pale yellow couples. Comeals look. It's very like Lawrence Welky. And Kyle's like, "Hey, we do a couple's photo tonight because we have not done a couple's photo all the time. We got to get a couple's photo in there." And Amanda goes, "I look fucking fabulous," which was like her opening
song for the crappies. How about that? And then, they take their picture and everyone's like, "Oh my god, you guys look so good." And then Ben and Amanda take a photo. And then they also for dinner. And they're having like martinis. It's a fancy dinner. Everyone's dressed up. And it's nice and classy. And Amanda's like, "Thank you guys for getting dressed up, Kyle." And Kyle's toasting to her being 34. I'm like, by the way, I'm so glad that she's 34 because she saw us
so much ahead of her. So much. I forget how young Amanda is sometimes. So, like, good for you, Amanda. You got it when the getting was good. So much ahead of head. So Jessie is thanking Sierra for the dinner. And Amanda's like, "Oh my god, next week, and we'll have a full-on party for Kyle's birthday. But for me, this is just what I wanted. It's simple dinner and home with my friends." And Bailey is like, "Does anybody else miss Carl?" Not really.
No, I didn't even realize he was gone until she said that. "Hall." I'm in the mix and spirit and spirit, but I'm mixing some soft drinks in Brooklyn instead. "Hall." So, Kyle's like, "All right, listen, as much as he'd want to be here,
He got such a tight timeline to get that thing open.
see it and Ben's like, "I did see it." It's still pretty raw, right? It's still pretty raw. And because I was like, "Oh, I'm still pretty raw." But Lindsey was nice to me. Last week, I'm so, "There's hope." It's weird. So Ben's like, "Now listen, I mean, he's got the main bar in. He's done a phenomenal job. He says a lot of things about some sort of good guy claws.
He's put in a lot of time, never. And he's opening soon, soft launch. And you know, I was asking
about the investors and he's helping and just like, "You got involved, didn't you?" He's like, "Yes, I did in best." And he's like, "All right, all right. I know where this going." Look, I joined the advisory board. My advisory said, "I'm bored. Get it, everyone. No, this seriously, it's going to fail. It's soft drinks." I mean, it's like, "You just go to 7-11." But no, seriously, though. Carl did ask me to invest. And I said, "Point blank. I just got half a million
dollar checked to love a boy to literally meet my payroll. So till Carl, look, bro, I love you. It's not personal. But I literally am on the hook financial for my entire business. I literally cannot pay for another single thing. And you won't see anything else. For the rest of this dinner, that indicate that I could afford anything else. Thank you very much." "I was on the advisory board, though. And my advice was put out calling these drinks."
Also, I'm not going to give you any money. And Jesse's like, "But he invested in love with boy, right?" He's like, "Yeah, I mean, back in the day, back in the day, back in the day long time ago, you know, I put 15 grand in a long time ago. It was a really long time ago, so totally different." "But 15 grand in, and this one or mine everyone, I paid a salary for a few years there, even when
βhe was high on the hook and messing up meetings." But anyway, yeah, what was your point again, Ben?β
"I'm saying, please." What do you think about this? "I think Kyle should have actually supported. I think Kyle should have put some money into software. I think it would have been the right thing to do." I know he's on the hook.
I know he just put in a million dollars doing another DJ gig. I don't know. I kind of feel like
I get it. I probably think in Kyle's mind, he's sort of the back of his mind, he's like, "This is probably not the best idea." And also, yes, yes, he gave me $15,000, but I did put him on my payroll for a few years. I kept him going when things were falling apart for him. So he's probably thinking that, but at least, put in like $5,000. I don't know, I think it is your best friend. But then again, as someone noted online, maybe this is Kyle's revenge for being demoted down to
flower boy in the wedding. "Oh gosh, it all goes back to flower boy. She's."
βWhat do you think? I think that he's under no obligation to put money into Carl's stupid business,β
okay? But I do think, you know, their friends maybe should have, but yeah, I do look at it from the point of view of listen. Carl was unemployable. He was drinking, he was doing coke, he was a mess. That man employed him and gave him a job. And not only just a cushy salary, but also the traveling around, the doing all the events and all of that stuff. So I think Carl more than earned that back. He more than got that back. Probably enough to like invest in his own business,
like leave that job and invest in his own business. So, yeah, I think I think that yes, Kyle should have invested. I do. As a mench. But I think what's bothering me about it is Carl turning it into another Carl victim storyline. Because if somebody else just said, "Hey, did Kyle invest?" and Carl said, "No, no, but he's, you know, he's busy or whatever." And then they said, " Kyle, that's not cool that you didn't invest. That would be one thing."
But it said, " Carl's like, "Well, you know, it really hurt me. I invest in Kyle's business." And Carl didn't invest my life. Like, you weren't afraid of, it's a shut up Carl. Just shut up Carl.
βLike, how much have you gotten from your relationship with Kyle? So that's what bugs me about it.β
But I do agree that Kyle should have invested. Yes, I'm like, I think we're totally totally in sync on this one. Like, if you really think about it, I think that probably what Kyle
is saying, but doesn't want to see on camera because he already always looks so bad when he
comments on these things, which is like, bro, I've put a lot of money into Carl. I've put a lot of money into Carl. Okay. But it isn't, isn't the irony rich here that Ben is inserting himself into this complicated dynamic of these two that he really doesn't know very well. And yeah, he gets really mad at, at Bailey for then essentially doing the same with her joke. Oh, I'm sorry. Don't bring the check because the target has been checked. I know it's not exactly the same, but
I'm waving the way. I'm so angry. I'm like, we got the check. We got the check. We already got it. I'm angry though. It's not, it's not, it's not a perfect, you know, comparison. But, you know, when I feel like a guy's being an asshole to a girl on these shows, sometimes I don't care.
Just this, this is your in my court now.
So Amanda's like, oh, Kyle, you didn't invest in software at all. Did you? And Kyle's like,
βum, no, but I shared his crowdfunding campaign. Hello, all you share. You shared his crowdfundingβ
campaign. It Carl wants me to write a check for 15 grand, okay, fine. I'm just like, oh, just think he's upset. You were initially going to invest and then you pulled out and then he sees you doing all these DJ gigs. I mean, you know, you're making money and you know, Carl's like a sensitive guy and it's about like sentiment, you know, it's not like finances and Kyle's like, I feel blindsided. I'm blindsided. Yeah, you know, I mean, I could not have been more clear, you know,
I'm financing. I can't do a lover boy, laying people off. You know, instead of firing people, you know, I didn't, I didn't support Kyle and bought my wife for 15,000 dollar watch a set. Yeah, exactly. Sir, I was like, I mean, if I'm putting more money into my business, then he's building it is. And he's gonna understand literally literal financial implications. And just he's like, yeah, it sounds like you guys should have a conversation between you too. Yeah, it is between
the two of them, which is funny. Why then therefore you and Ben have chimed in, which is also very Carl is, and it's very West too, is to sort of like air it out to the other guys and hope it gets
βback to Kyle. So I'm just doing that. That's what he's doing. That's what he's doing. That'sβ
what bugs me about the whole thing. Why I think Kyle is in the wrong here. I'm on Kyle's side because Carl is just so fucking annoying with his victim complex every season. And every season is like, oh my god, Carl's so different now. No, he's not. No, he's not. Now his filter is just back up. Who's better at it? So Jesse is like, hey, guys, everybody has to say one nice thing about him, and uh, there are guacamole. Guacamole. Guacamole. Guacamole. Guacamole.
Not in the line. West is like, um, Amanda, since I've known you, you've like accomplished like so many big things from where you were like, you said you were going to start a bikini line for women with big boobs, and like you've done such a great job coming up with the fonts for that. Um, so good job with that. I got dogs. You got dogs. Um, I heard that you got that 10th punch in your subway rewards cards and congrats on that. Cool sub.
Yeah, and you've been out of your shell. And it's just like, so fun to like, what you do shit, not specific shit. And she's like, that was so nice with things. So me as like, you know, sometimes people try to fit into a mold. And by mold, I mean, tiny bikini tops, but you broke that Amanda. I was like, oh my god, thanks so much. And then then he's like, well, I'm a big eyes in a smile guy. So I love and Bailey's like,
I was gonna say, Ben's gonna talk about how he watched it definitely sleep with you. And then everyone's like awkward. And Bailey's like, definitely knew he was going to go. I love it. I mean, it was funny because it does sort of feel that way. And Ben looks so mad. And me as everyone's like, oh my god, what the hell? Oh my god. And she builds, I know the story. I know. And then it was like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.
And Ben's like, oh, and Bailey's like, okay, never mind. She keeps doing this thing like, I'll zip it. I'll zip it.
Zip it. Zip it. Zip it. So Ben's like, well, like I was saying, I'm a big smile and eyes guy. And I like the way you can walk into a room and you can brighten it with your smile. And everyone loves it.
βAnd that's what I was going. Thank you Bailey. He's like all deflated when he says it now.β
He's like, yeah. Like it was such an original thing to say. Like, wow, I'm saying you're beautiful. In some, in a moment where everybody's like, Amanda, here's what I thought about your personality. Your heart, your determination, your will to make things happen for yourself. And gets to Ben. He's like, you're hot. He's like, damn, but I didn't get to finish that properly. It was sort of like, worked on that. Like, it's super cycling line.
Some, what he had to say at a bachelor. Yeah, well, it's like you light up the room with your smile. I'm being vulnerable right now. It's like, what a shallow ass answer anyway. So Bailey wasn't really that far off. So it's like sorry, geez. And Carl says, all right, man, you got a floor, man. You got a floor. Okay. Well, um, your heart. So, uh, Carl's been staflated. So, Carl's like, this group's just, man. Jill and you, he's like, well, the fuck just happened. He seems stewing. He's like, I'm so mad now.
And Bailey's like, oops, never mind. Sorry. I don't know. Sorry.
We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll. So they, um, the dessert is going to be coming up soon. And Carl's like, well, well, they're coming to the dessert. I'm going to got the cheese. Ha, I've been also, I'm going to get a card. Okay, here's the card. Look at this. And they're like, oh my god, Cartier, Cartier. So Amanda reads the card out loud. And she's like, oh my god, Kyle, you
Did not.
Oh my god, oh, well, Kyle. Yeah, I can't give you something that comes naturally. But, you know,
βpages and here to buy something with my credit card for Amanda. So I had to do it.β
Yep, on the heels of him saying he couldn't afford one dime for Carl's company. He also
gives a Cartier watch to his wife. Now, of course, life comes before Carl always. But it is just hilarious
that he's like crying poor, but then also making a grand presentation of a Cartier watch. Yeah, but awkward timing on that one for sure. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I say buy your wife something over Carl. You know, your wife has to put up with you. And also, it's just such a guy who's cheating and doing the wrong thing gift as well. It's like, well, you're some really expensive jewelry. Don't look over there. You know, don't go through my deums. Yeah, exactly. But so we see a flash
back to four summers ago where Kyle tells Amanda the gift giving gives him anxiety. Yeah, it's tough for him. And he's like, yeah, I really struggled. But like, considering this summer, we're having it's mission critical that I know this. It's like, wow, it's mission critical.
Also, Kyle did the one thing he never thought he'd be able to do. Simply listen to Amanda when
she says she wants something and then buy it for her. Wow, amazing. Yeah, I'm sick. Oh my god, it's so pretty. Everyone cheers. It's a little avocado. Watch. There's Kyle Kyle. Oh, it didn't's a little bit in clubs send it and then we can go. So now they got a club send it. And Amanda calls her mom. What did you say? AKA the living room. The living room. And Amanda calls her mama to tell her and said, Oh, my god, the Kyle really missed her Kyle. Kyle got you something. Wow.
Your husband finally did the bare minimum for being with you for 10 years and got you a gift. Wow, we. And Amanda says, I asked him for the watch as a joke because I know it's expensive and this man doesn't spend money and anything. He won't even buy himself new underwear. So the fact that he went to the store and picked out the watch and put on his credit card. Like, that's he did good. She's just, I feel bad that she's just so impressed with the simplest, you know,
attentiveness to her wants. Although inexpensive attentiveness to her wants in this case. I guess it's not that simple. But the point is that he listened for once and she's like, Oh, my god, he finally listened to something that I said after 10 years of not getting any gifts. It's like you get a gift. And I said, Oh, my god, everyone's throwing him a parade in the street. So now a Sierra, you know, goes to say hire whatever everybody's house partying in the club and Ben
meanwhile, stealing and clubs send it. And he's like, God damn it. And Wes says, Now is crazy. I mean, honor, birthday in front of her husband, even they even said that. And so Wes is like, Yeah, I was crazy.
βLike, remember when Bailey was like, Oh, I knew you were going to say we're going to fuck Amanda.β
And we were like, What the fuck? Well, I don't know what's going on. That was the weirdest fucking circle of saying something nice about anyone. Someone I've ever been involved in my life. My experience is that when you say that you're a big eyes and big smile kind of guy, everyone gets quite and starts to cry right away. So the fact that I was interrupted in my beautiful moment has me really steamed. Yeah, everyone else was like, What did she just say? I mean,
I don't know. There's something going on there. Obviously, I just need to fucking fire that what's going on. They're like, Oh, get her. It's a gone going. Yeah, I'm going to find out what's going on by walking into a room and being aggro. So then I'm Sierra Amanda and Levi are just like, hanging out and Amanda's like Amanda's joking, like Bailey's a Bailey's in love with Ben.
βAnd Levi's like, Yeah, I think so. And she said, Yeah, I think she just gets really nervous byβ
him and Amanda's like, Yeah, because that comment was like, Oh, and even Levi was like, Yeah, I mean, obviously she's joking around and it's like, like, hearted, but it's just not a good way to flirt. I mean, I tell her to this to her face all the time. She's just not flirting. But unfortunately,
she's always sticking her face into a sweet greens ball. So it's hard to get through to her sometimes.
This is it. So then the boys are still going on about it. And Jesse's like, Wait, like, why does it say so much? Oh, he's like, 'cause it's the second time she's done it. And then we see a clip of her saying, Oh my god, he's hitting on Amanda again. Ben loves Amanda. So Ben's like, she keeps saying it. So obviously, something's going on and don't talk over the top of me. I just don't like it when people talk over me anyway. I mean, everyone's saying something and you talk over the top of me and
saying, I want to fuck my mates, Mrs. And then they all start cracking up. And Wes is like, Oh my god, can you believe that guy has an accent? Whoa, that was so funny. It was like a cartoon, a cartoon featuring people with accents. Yeah, he said, Mrs. It's so Australian. And then they're just like
Cracking up in his face.
oh, I can't deal with you guys. I know that I've been treating Amanda differently than everybody else, but that's because she's in the fringes zone. And I can be myself. I can be flirted without thinking
that I'm making any moves or hitting on you. Basically, so when she said that, it kind of
threw me off the bed. It's kind of like, Oh, shit. Does it? Does it look like that? Is everybody thinking that? I have to get to the bottom of this now. So if I'm doing something which everyone's thinking, I need to stop that today. And the way I stop that behavior is by going in and getting mad at badly. But you just said in your own monologue that she's in my friend zone. And I can be myself. I can be flirty without you thinking I'm making. So you're saying you're being flirty in
your being. You just said it. You just said it. So if someone jokes about it, it shouldn't be that big of a deal. You know. So he goes upstairs and she's getting ready. Ben meanwhile, the guy's like, Oh my god, he has an accent. Oh, everything's in their minds. And then so barely in Ben. So Ben walks into her messy has room. And he's like, Bailey. And he's barely disguising his disdain for all the stuff that's around. And there's like, Oh, geez. What? Okay. Go ahead. And he's like, so um,
what's going on? And he's like staring at her with like, Velociraptorize. Like in this really cold penetrating way, you know. And she's like, oh, so she's like, he's like, so what's going on? She's like in life. And it's like, we're, you're the one who walked in here. Why are you
βasking her what's going on? Just start talking. Just come to say what you need to say. Get it beβ
done with it. So it gets more and more awkward. They're like, what? Well, I'm just trying to figure out where he hits at because it did not saying that I wanted to fuck Amanda. She was, um, I was just joking because you guys tell that story about how would you bet you both would
get it. It's getting bigger than you always joke about how like you would if you could. Because,
um, actually, now we've never joked about what if I could. And I think it was rude. I was like, okay, well, I apologize if it's not my joke to make. Okay. Well, this is something else going on because this is the second time. So it's a joke. She was, yeah, it's a joke. I mean, you joke about it a lot. Like, I'm not going to pretend that wasn't hopping on. I mean, I was, it's your joke, which they don't really joke about it. I've never heard of it. I don't know. I kind of feel like I get this point
Billy should say, I know it was a bad joke. I kind of wait for me. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done it. And she should have sort of stopped there. But she was kind of defensive about this. And I was like, hmm, you know, I'm on your side and it's overall in this situation, Bailey. But, um, I didn't love how defensive you were because you did kind of mess up on this one. So, Ben is like, well,
you know, did you think that was appropriate? We were all saying something nice about her birthday
to fucking yell that out inside Ben wants to fuck Amanda at the table. And this point I'm like,
βoh, now so now you're being a dick being caught in a setting. Did you think that was appropriate?β
Like, okay, sir, she just, I mean, it wasn't the best apology, but she did just apologize. And now you're being like, now you're going to start being a dick about it. Like, well, I didn't say bed wants to fuck about that. I didn't say the F word. I mean, that didn't come out of my mouth. And he's like, okay, well, you sleep with her. Okay, big difference. She goes, but you make the joke a lot. And he goes, no, we don't about sleeping with each other. And she's like, but then how would I know about that?
Some inches. And he was like, I mean, it was skinny dipping. We went skinny dipping. All right. That's that's a difference. Can you not see the difference between skinny dipping one time in Italy at a wedding with all your friends? And I'm in love with her slash one asleep with her. Are you kidding me? And she's like, well, okay, but the way you joke about it is loose. You know, I didn't make it up. I didn't think like, oh my god, they're having in the fair,
but he does flip with her. Obviously, there's a story of them swimming naked in the pool. He makes her coffee when she wakes up in the morning. Whereas my god, I'm coffee. She's getting out of the pool. He makes sure she has a towel. Her husband could be doing all these things. Like, she should be picked up and spun around by Kyle, just saying it's weird. I was like, you know, not terrible points that she's making. I have to say. Like, I do think it was not really her joke
to make. She doesn't, she doesn't know them as well. But it is weird that she's like making her coffee. That's a, that's very love island coded. Okay. And often her the towels. He's doing little niceties for Amanda that he's not extending to the other girls in the house, specifically Bailey. So Amanda is like you pointed out that is reality show code for where you're sewing for.
βSo it's not that she's wrong. I think it's just that she obviously, as she just said, like,β
where's my fucking coffee? You know, like, she likes Ben. So she is annoyed that Ben is flirting with yeah. She feels rejected. And on top of that, I do think that he has been trying to manufacture some sort of nice guy in it. She really has his whole thing this whole season was. I know I'm hot, but I'm actually really shy. And I'm uncomfortable with all this attention. I get from the females. And actually, I think that she has unwittingly just poked a giant hole in that. And he doesn't know
how to handle it right now. So he says, well, I don't think that you're joking. I think there's
Something else going on.
trying to be funny. So this is where I got, because I feel like he's saying, like, obviously,
you like me, just say you like me. Like your jealous, but he won't say it. And it's just gross. It's gross. It's a gross way to handle it. And she's like, no, there's nothing. And if there
βwas, I would say something. And he's like, well, you have been saying things. And that's what I'mβ
saying. It's uncomfortable. She goes, okay, but you joke about it all the time. And he's like, okay, okay, look, just I appreciate it if you don't do it anymore, baby. All right, that'd be great. Because it's got nothing to do with you. And she's like, okay, let her do it. And he said, I can respect that. Fine. And he stands at this point. He would he had been sitting on her bed, which and there's stuff on her bed and stuff all on her floor. So he stands up to leave. And she's
saying what you said. She's saying, like, okay, I respect that. And she goes, hey, look at me. I'm talking. And he goes, sorry. I'm just stepping over your stuff. I want to get out of here, which was like his cold way. I've been like your messy ass room. I'm just trying to get out of this humble, you call a bedroom. Okay, now I can look at you because now I'm not distracted by the fact that I may trip and fall to my death over this pile of laundry at the base of your bed.
Then don't come into my room. Yes, seriously. So she's like, well, you can't even, you can't start a bit here. Be like, well, I'd leave. Like, I'm trying to answer for it. And he goes, well, you're not making sense. I ask you the same question. You give me some bullshit answer. And like, it's a joke. And it's not a joke. And it's not funny. And you don't talk to anyone else like that. And I'm like, well, okay, it took it inside joke that you guys had too far. I'm sorry. He goes,
apology accepted. All right. Bye. See you out there. Emily is all pissed off. And Mia has been listening this whole time. And Bailey goes to the bathroom and just like, oh, yeah, she cries. And I fully expected that in the second half of the episode, they would probably go to a apology beat or something like that. Apology do. Sorry. And he'd be like, sorry, last night. I was really steaming mad. I knew you were really upset. You didn't come out with us. It wasn't my intention
to ruin you. No, I just, I was upset myself. And I've cooled down. I really like you. But I just
was really upset by that because I would never do that in such an infection. My character
don't like it very defensive about that because when I was younger, one of me best mates. He also took one of my girls and I never would want to do with it. I thought it would be a whole thing. And it never happened. It was just like, oh, well, whatever. I thought he was going to like feel bad for how intense he was because again, he wasn't yelling. He was, he was sitting there being pretty calm,
βbut he was just so direct and his fury was so potent that it made, I think, all of us feel uncomfortable.β
Especially Belle, he was on the receiving end of it right there in that room. So then Jessie's got to being with Amanda. He's like, oh my God, dude, then was so mad. He was so mad, sent. He'd like he was so mad. He had an accent. He always has an accent. No, but it was like the funniest
accent. Yeah, but I mean, it was weird. You know, because like, that was the second time she said
something. And, you know, Ben has just been, Ben and I just brushed it off. And he goes, yeah, well, she was, he was pretty heated this time. I'm like, I mean, at a table, I mean, it was uncomfortable, I guess. It was uncomfortable. So now Sierra and KJ are on the couch and Mia comes in like, oh, I love Mia. Mia's great. She's so great. So Sierra is like, oh, Mia found some tea. Look at her. Mia got some tea. Mia's like, child, child. There was like, did he say something to her up there?
And Mia's like, bitch, he could, he just confronted her. He was like, you were trying to be funny,
βbut I don't really think it was funny. And Sierra's like, oh, and that was it. That's how it ended.β
And she goes, he stormed off. And she was like, hmm, I'd like Ben. Ben's got anger issues. I have like that. She's like throwing her hair like jokingly like, well, like this. And she's like, I mean, she's like, yeah, like it. Now, I mean, if I'm talking to you, don't storm off. But I like that you can storm. And so he comes back down. And the West is like, whoa, what's that mean? Are you solid? Me? Sorry. That's funny. Did you, did you just tell off a missus?
Well, I said, and she apologized. She said, sorry. So I'm moving on as you can tell by the continued rage in my eyes right now. Just one last little vent and that was it. I was like, yeah, you missed. I'm like, was this like, hey, didn't love that joke. And she said, oh my god, I'm so sorry. Yeah, can we just not do that again? Totally, totally respect your boundaries. Okay, love you. That was not what the conversation was. So then we go to Bailey and Levi and you know, Bailey comes out crying and
Levi's like, oh my god, you're out of your outfit. You're not coming out. What happens? Where are you not coming out? I mean, Ben stormed out. Was he mad about the comment? It was so clearly a joke. I mean, it was just a joke. It was just a joke. I mean, I feel like one of the guys could have said that. And everyone would laugh. They would go, right? Where am I right? And she's like, yeah, I've just he said it. It would have been fine. And right, actually, by the way, I do think that I've just
he said it. They would have been like, oh, Jesse. Yeah, I think it's clearly because she likes him.
He doesn't like her back, you know, and so yeah.
she made the joke, but what made it uncomfortable was his reaction, not the joke, if that makes sense.
βSo Levi, Levi's like, oh my god, do you have to come out? And Bailey says it was a disproportionate response.β
You know, a man is not yelled at me since my ex-boyfriend and he was horrible and he would break my shit. And he was really mean to me. And he just pearly toxic. Okay. Wow. I can see how that would, you know, be triggering. He didn't really yell or throw your things and stuff. We thought it was kind of taking it to a different level. And she even says that. Yeah. But I can see how, you know, just having any confrontation with a guy, it would be like, uh, like, where's it going to go?
Yeah. Yeah. And so she says, and Ben wasn't doing anything that I would say. It wasn't anyway similar to the things that I've experienced, but just the situation of the confrontation just really puts me in a horrible place. So Bailey is like, the fact that I tried to apologize and he's like, I'm confused. There's a bigger thing. There's a bigger thing. There's a bigger thing. What's the bigger thing? Okay. Confusion on my part. Sorry. I'm like, well, you didn't, you're like,
you sort of like, nominally apologize. And you do know that there is, I mean, you do like him. There is a bigger thing. But either way, I'm still on Bailey's side and this is because I just
think that Ben was a real dick about the whole situation. So now, uh, people are still on fucking
clubs and did, I can't. And then, um, Mia goes to Ben and Sierra's saying, well, do you think Bailey's sad right now? And he's like, oh, I don't know, is she? I don't want her to be sad.
βThat's why we're going to snuggle up there and be like, hey, I don't want you to be crying.β
She just stays down there. Oh, I don't want her to be sad. Anywho, back to dancing. So Sierra and Mia go check on her. And then the man is like, but no, I want to come too. So they all go to the bed and, um, check on her. And Bailey's like, well, I hated having a guy yell at me. That's how I am. No, like, you know, it was pretty awkward. You know, I'm sorry, Amanda, if my joke hurt your feelings too in any way. I really was joking. I'm sorry if I said you,
I just, I have no problem apologizing if I do something wrong. I'm saying, I have really thanks, skin. I don't care. I mean, I could see how uncomfortable I mean. Ben, but I don't really care. Just, yeah, I don't give you shit about Ben. I'm sorry. Then Jesse knocked the door. He's like, hey, babe. Hey, fellow bed bugs. We're going to go to mers. But I'm assuming some people are staying behind. And everyone's like, no, we're going to come
by by Bailey. Have a great night by Bailey. I guess, and the other girl who sticks with who's that girl is in that bed with you all the time. You're going to, you're going to stay back to, right? Okay, like guys. Bye, Carl, Dan, y'all and Bailey, we'll see you later. and the ship has a practical, accurate, accurate trauma.
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I think it's a wrap. Thank you so much for that. And I look forward to remaining this clean for the rest of the evening. Thank you. Thank you.
See you at 2am. So Bailey's like, "Oh my God, now you're stuck with me. I'm so lame. You don't have to be stuck with me, God. I'm just staring at my phone and crying."
Actually, I'm not stuck with you. I love this. This is great. And Bailey just goes back to scrolling on her phone. Levi's just sitting there like, "Well, this is, this is glad I stayed.
Just need to support her. She needs support. While she scrolls X." So, yeah, I'd be great here. Wait for it.
Wait for it. But that's a good friend right there, that Levi. See, this is, I think, why I like her. There's something about her. I just really, I think she's funny.
She's a loyal friend. And I like that it's like an authentic friendship. It's not like trying to recreate the page and Hannah or page and Sierra thing, even though it's sort of is. But like, it's authentic.
So, I like it. I don't know why I keep on like building a case for why I like that. I know. You're really stumping for Levi, I mean, she's fine. I don't know.
She doesn't really do anything, it's like, it's like complimenting, you know, trying to think of something this way.
βIf you got a black eye from a goat, and I think that doesn't work.β
Yeah, I mean, I like her too. So then West Dance is, this is fine.
Everyone's dancing and stuff.
And so West and Sierra and now like kind of dirty dancing or whatever West is straddling her.
βAnd she's like, okay, well, here's the thing about West.β
Like when he sits on you, he has a crush, and he sat on me. Because I remember when Tommy sat on me, it was when he had a crush on me and fast forward and now he's sitting on me like he totally likes me. Yeah. Okay.
Well, that's I'm so glad to hear that. But he says, so hey, now I'm like, because you just started talking to him again, you literally just gave the green flag again like last week. So of course now he couldn't before other evidence that West likes you, the fact that
he falls you around like a puppy dog and basically said, I'm still in love with Sierra.
Then they're dancing and stuff and Jesse is like, yeah, West and Sierra are getting dirty. Really happy for them. Really happy. jealous, not this guy, no.
So now Sierra and West are in Kyle's bed and cause I'm like, that's nice. And I'm going to go see if the Buffalo chicken depot is ready. So he's about to scroll, but then he starts talking to West. He's like, oh my God. It was awesome.
Bro, you guys were totally flirting. Yeah. I mean, are you talking about me and Sierra, I know like, I don't know what to do. It's just like we hate each other for like three weeks and then it's like, oh my God. Yeah, I've looked up and like, dude, they're like, fuck, I mean, like together, I mean.
I know, I know. God, crush is not the word I would use. It's not a crush because we aren't friends during the day, you know? I guess maybe you don't need that for a crush because like you can fall in love in the club. There's a song about it, you know?
It's like, it's like an incident after hours crush or like a PM crush or like, I'm just a little boy crush, a late night crush, a sunset crush, a breakfast crush, a lunch crush, it's what I was like, I'll tell you what it is.
βIt's a boring crush at this point, letting that's the best way to describe it.β
It's an, I need attention on a TV show crush. I'm not buying this sir.
I've never been at it from West and his whole life.
Oh, wow, just a boy who doesn't understand girls, what? Take a page from the one-only Jennifer page who once sang, it's just a little crush. Don't mean anything. Ah, sister Eric. The lyrics.
Let's see. That's all here. I'll watch back in. Chuck, what are you two idiots talking about? So now everybody gets ready for bed and Amanda's sitting on Kyle's lap because she got
to watch. He was like, well, I was like, let it surprise and he's just, well, it was so special. Kyle, I was not expecting that. You know, we had a rough start to the summer, we needed this, like a huge sigh relief. I do love her and I haven't felt this connected with her and God knows how long and just
make me extremely happy.
And this is funny because every season of summer house starts like this with the first six
episodes, they fight viciously and you think, oh, this relationship is falling apart. And then they have a turning point and Kyle goes, well, it's already enough for us, but
βnow we're back on on the right path, but what's funny is that I think he thinks it'sβ
the right path. Moving, no, she's going to be like, this watch was great, thanks, I'm still going to leave you this time. This is it. And also, Kyle is very typical of Kyle, and when he's happy with Amanda.
I mean, yes, the watch was in play. I get that. So Amanda was happy with him for that, but Kyle wasn't happy just because she was happy about the watch. Kyle was happy because she was out wasted in partying.
That's when Kyle likes Amanda when she actually goes out and she gets shit faced with everybody and she parties all night, that's when Kyle likes Amanda. He doesn't like the rest of it, so he's like, wow, we're back on the right track. Amanda came out and got shit faced tonight, on the right thing. Yeah, it made no effort, I've changed nothing, but look, she's drunk, so we're on the right
path again. We made it, nailed it, nailed it. So West, NCR, eating buffalo chicken dip in the kitchen and West is asking her if she's having fun. Because, are you having fun?
She goes, what? Are you having fun? You mean as a whole or tonight, it's like any, just in any possible way, or just you play a good app today, like, to do, do, I don't know, just, you have some sort of fun in some capacity.
Yeah, she's like, what are you, what are you talking about? I mean, whisper a store and he's like, look, just, I just don't like, I don't even know how I talked to you, okay, like, like, Kyle, like, I don't know how to talk to you from being honest, and she goes, he, you know, I feel like I've perfectly designed it that way.
He's like, correct, but like, I don't know what to do before filming or after, like, I want to talk to you. And so she's basically like, yeah, you know, flirting, having fun, drunk and super is great, but like in the silver daylight, a conversation where like, after put my guard down and be vulnerable, like, me, I'm not going to do that.
I just, as she says, I just don't think that I trust you or your intentions or your interaction, so like, I have my guard up, he's like, yeah, it's my fault, she's like, what?
He's, I just, I don't know what it's correct for you.
I'm a little boy and I like it.
βWhat's correct for, what's, when she's saying she doesn't trust your intentions or whatβ
you're doing, it's because you're only doing this on camera, West. Yeah. You play this big fucking game on camera, like, I don't know when I'm doing, see, I'm trying to see, I don't know when I just don't know when she want. Call her off the show, call her during the week and go have coffee when there's not
cameras around and have a real discussion, but you won't do that. You just want to do it on TV. I think that's what you did to a stick. He just did that. He just was very slide.
He was like, oh, but like, the only reason why I don't call you, but it's not on TV is because I just don't know how to do it, because I'm scared. So it's the next morning, and people waking up, Levi is in bed with Bailey and she's like, oh my god, you're so sweaty. Not only did I have to waste a good outfit last night, I got covered in your goo, which
is like, well, it's my anxiety. It's not fucking sleeping. That's the problem. Oh, yesterday I was sad today I'm angry. I kind of want to pop off on Ben, I was like, oh, that's going to really help.
Please do, though. But please do. I encourage it. Please do. So I cover up here with your weird, curled hair, slipped back, staring at me, dead the eyes.
I don't put myself in situations with Ben, I'm not fucking dating or yelling at me.
βWell, you should, hopefully you don't put yourself in a situation where men you are datingβ
are yelling at you, either. I don't think any man should be yelling at you in the first place. Bailey, stand up for yourself. But it's funny how when a guy, you know, you think a guy is so cute, and then they give you that reason to egg, and then you're like, oh, they're stupid, curly hair, they're
fucking blue eyes, fucking white walker eyes, the fuck outta here. Yeah, seriously, it's so funny how they're just like, turns like a right away. It's like stupid washboard abs, either sandwich, but I actually love that. I'd love when there's someone who's so hot, and then you like see them for either being evil or awful or whatever, and then it like releases the spell of their hotness.
I always feel like, you know, when someone's really hot, I don't like, I don't like
that spell. Watch the traitors. Okay, we watched an entire castle of people be basically dictimatized by Rob, because you're under the spell of the hotness, and so like when's that, once that spell has been dissipated, you can just have like agency over your own life thoughts and actions again,
I feel like. And so I think it's a great moment when someone stops being hot and they just start becoming awful. Yeah, um, I just, I'm trying to think of who that happened to with Rob, I don't know, like, I don't know, that's a great example.
I don't think I don't really still do anything that he says.
βNo, I have that to say, I don't think I'd ever happen with Rob, that's why he was soβ
good. Well, he wasn't good. You know, you see it's happened with every season is Craig on Southern Charm. Yep, that's someone you see it happened every season where he, he kind of even, even people like me who are completely anti at this point, even me, I get convinced, because
he gets so charming and he can be so cute.
And there's always a couple of points in the season where I'm like, oh, he's better
everything's great. And then you just, he does something again, like, he also to woman or something. It's like, oh, he's so coat, bloating, gross. He's so deceased. First blood vessel.
He's just so disgusting. It's like everything that was cute about him before. I'm like a stupid, squinty eyes and you're stupid, but she eyebrows and you're full head of hair. You're disgusting.
You are disgusting, sir. Yeah. Totally. Well, Ben and Kyle go to the gym, Mia's boyfriend calls her. Jessie comes into the kitchen, which is a total mess.
So everything that they were like, this the kitchen's never looked this good, because by the way, they had caterers in the night before they cleaned up the kitchen. And now they went and made a shit hole again. And I got that left some stake out and they were really sad. And like, Jessie, his frown, he already had his frown from Sierra and now was like, even
more frowning because he, he also now no longer has stake. He lost stake and Sierra. That's a little tough. We take out, what a mistake, what a no pun intended. So KJ comes in and they talk about the stake being gone.
And KJ asks if he talked to Sierra and he's like, "Yeah, it's good. It's like, did you guys say some boundaries or no?" KJ. That's so fun. Everything, everything.
I love everything. I think that comes out of KJ's mouth. It's like the perfect TikTok. Yeah. I, you know, he's just like, "Well, that was last night.
You guys set boundaries. Awesome." You guys are up to date on your pronouns, right?
So, I only mentioned that because I always saw the story how back in 2020, Ronnie and I
were in New Orleans and we're walking down, it was at Frenchman Street, the, the, the super, it was just, they're all these college students that, they're out. They're all 20, 21 and the bro. It was big old bro who was like, "Juron kind of, like, beer stains on a shirt, walks up
To a grill and they're like, "Hey, what are your pronouns?
I was like, "That is so sweet." Like, and I love that Gen Z.
I always talk with me the most.
Oh, the fake, fratty guy.
βI was like, "Hey, hey, you want jokes and beers, but first, what are your pronouns?"β
I loved it. So, it is, you're so right. When KJ is like, "Hey, man, you guys, like set some good boundaries last night." It's just so, it's so Gen Z, you know, I'm West. I was like, "KJ, you're such a good guy."
I don't know if people tell you that a lot, but I know you just mean well in everything you do, bro, as I think, bro. So then I'm Adam Sierra talking and Sierra's like, "Oh, my God." Well, first of all, they were showing the guys talking like, "Did you talk to Sierra?" And then they just cut the Sierra and she's like, "I really like cheese."
I'm gonna make up back to the guy. It's not gonna be about the girl. I'm not interested in what the guy is. It's so funny. But now they go to Sierra and she's, she's talking about West and she's like, "Yeah,
so like West, like cornered, I mean not cornered. He pantered me. He like talked to me at the pantry."
And he was like, "I'm gonna talk to you, but I just never know when it's like a good
time." And I was like, "Yeah, because I made it that way." And he was like, "Yeah, but I want to talk to you." And then they just start laughing at what a loser West is. That's my favorite.
My favorite is when the girls laugh at the guys behind their backs. So they get dressed, they can have a day out and they get into their cars and
βWest is, he's doing shotgun and Sierra open the door to be like, "You have to giveβ
this to me." Because she's used to a year of West doing anything she says to get on their good side. And so he's like, "Joke." He's like, "No, I'm gonna stand up for myself today.
I'm gonna stay here." She's like, "But it's like flirty." And it's like flirty and fun. But he's like standing up for himself. He's growing.
And then the other car, Kyle's watching, "Oh my God, they're flirting."
Look at that. Oh, so they all go. They're all gonna head off to Wolver vineyards, one of the famed locations of some house. Yeah.
And so, Kyle's like, "Hey, I got a criminally evidence to West and Sierra getting together that night." And he shows them a picture and they're like dancing together. Ben's like, "Oh, that's actually a good steal. Pretty good."
"Oh my God, he's resting his head on our shoulder."
βWould you care to rest your head on Marshall to Amanda?β
Well, it's honestly, of course, a lot of big smile and eyes go on. And back in West car, he's like, "When's small step for mankind?" And one month longer on probation. Sierra, I'm sitting at the front seat. So now let's go to Fufu, and Amanda's like, "What's the difference between a vinery
and a vineyard?" And they're just like laugh and Ben goes, "No, and can give you an answer to that one. Except for me, my answer comes in the form of an afternoon coffee." "For you, my love, plutonically, of course." So they all sit at the table, there's picking table, and like somewhere on one side, obviously
somewhere on one side, and Bailey is like, "A little bit too close to Ben's." She's like, "I'm not going to sit here." So she does, she makes a very loud announcement that she's going to move to the other side. She's like, "Nice, big, past, but aggressive." I'm going to sit as far away from Ben as possible.
Thank you. Yeah. Um, and so she does, she gets a hell away from him, and they're like, "Oh, okay." And I was hoping this was going to lead to some kind of a big fight, but it did same. And Kyle stands up and starts eating the grapes off the vine that's hanging above the table,
and, um, they're like, "Wow." So the server comes over, pour some some wines, and Sierra asks Kyle to go away from the table to take a picture, and so he's taking pictures, he's like, "Oh, okay. We're a car. I got you.
I got you in color, man's Aladdin's and I in school for nothing." She's like, "Who the fuck is that?" And did he have anger issues? That's kind of hot. And Kyle's like, "You know how that is, Aladdin's?"
He's a warm one in black, and white with a dog, or that ventured in the color, and they have to burn his career. She's like, "Okay, whatever." Um, so, Kyle's like, "All right, you mean not, Sierra. Come on, give me a little, give me a naughty."
"Okay, give me a little, give me a little boy." "Give me $500,000." There's Sierra, no, seriously. Do you have $500,000? There's no, seriously."
And Sierra's like, "I'm wearing a vineyard. What do you mean give me a naughty?" and so, they're like posing and Kyle's, um, he's like, "How about, uh, how about, uh, do this pose?" I've slurred it with West last night. Uh, yeah, and they're making fun of how Kyle is standing, because he's like, kind of squatting
and sticking his butt out to get a picture. Man is like, "Oh my God, look at that idiot." So, uh, Mia is complimenting Kyle on, or no, Amanda, she's complimenting. She's like, "I'm so glad you got that watch. You deserve it."
Yeah, that was, like, more a gift for him than it was for me, because, like, the fact that everyone, like, clap for him and, like, applauded for him. And now I can leave him and I got to watch out of it. So, then, Ben and Sierra go up to play. I love, she's like, she's like, "I'm not joking, guys."
Yeah. Ben and Sierra go up to play Cornhole. Um, and I thought, like, "Okay, they're going to talk about the Bailey situation."
Nope, not going to talk about the Bailey situation at all.
In fact, like you said, I thought there would be a confrontation. I was like, "Waiting for it."
βI was like, "Ooh, what's going to happen next?"β
And like, it just says, like, "A band in and I'm so mad." Like, "I'm so invested in this." So, Ben is like, "You know, it's been really good getting to know you the past few weeks, Sierra. Look at me being fluidy with you to throw the heat off the fact that I've apparently I've been very fluidy with Amanda.
I'm fluidy with everyone. I guess that means that we're friends and... Like, yeah, Sam, like, I actually don't hate you. Like, you actually don't get on my nerves. Like, you were a great addition to the house, I guess, in terms of guy energy.
Like, you're not so stupid. It's like, "All right, well, it'll want to do it, but not stupid, but she's like, yeah, exactly." I mean, you're still stupid. But you're not the stupidest you've ever had. I mean, you really should look at the people who've been on this show.
And I don't just, like, see you as a hot piece of ass. And everyone that, you know, wants to make out with you in the house. You know, I'm sure that's it. Like, it's got to be kind of annoying, right? And I can see where you're, like, kind of uncomfortable, right?
Like, a dinner, you were just, like, really upset. And he's like, "Yeah, that was a lot." Yeah. So, what's going on with you? Are you dating anyone?
Are you, like, for a relationship? I thought she was, I was like, "See, I thought you were going to say... Bailey seemed really rattled by you last night. How are things today with you and Bailey? Are you okay?
Have you checked in on her? I got up, feel so. I hate that you guys are fine." And she's just like, "Yeah, that was weird last night." So, who you dating?
What's going on with your life? Yeah. I think it takes a time to break into that girl group.
βLike, they're accepting, but, you know, you have to kind of break through, because theyβ
never know when it's going to be a Lexi or somebody.
Yeah. You know? Yeah. So, men's like, "Yeah, that was a lot." So, she asked them about dating and he says, "Oh, I've been trying to work on myself
for a while, okay." All right. But there was a moment. You know, early in the year, I was dating someone for a minute. And then she said, "She loved me."
And I looked froze and I thought I'd be ready, but, you know, I was trying to get ready. But I froze. I just, I guess I fucked that up. So, he says he met this girl through a dating app. They only knew each other for a couple of weeks, but they spent like, an 100 hours together.
And they took a photo and he was like, "Oh, my God, it feels so unreal." And it was so special, but it went too fast. And so he told her, "Well, I'm probably going to the haptons for the summer. So, let me see how that turns out." And she was like, "Well, I'm not fucking waiting for you.
You dick." But apparently they were, I mean, almost in a saying that he's been dating this whole time. Let me tell you something. This is all a very lovely spin that he put on the situation, but we know what this really was, which was, starting a hot and heavy, everything was great.
He got on the TV show and was like, "Wait a second.
I'd like you, but I'd like the idea of having a fling on national TV that could give me longevity on summer house more." So, you're going to have to go in the back burner and she was like, "Fuck you." It's like, "Sorry, TV's more important." So, I don't know.
βI think this whole story, he's put us in on it, like, "I'm just working on myself.β
I don't know. I froze. I'm scared of it. I'm like, "No, you're just, like, really almost every other guy on this show. We've seen so far.
You're just another fact, boy." Yeah. And whenever a guy says, "Oh, I'm not dating because I'm working on myself." Oh, shut the fuck up. What has that ever been true?
That's not ever been proven to be true by any man. Really? "Rose." Because she said, "I love you." It's like, "It was so great.
It was so special." But she said, "I love you and I froze." "Okay, what? I meant that you want to keep your options open. You didn't freeze."
Yeah. And so, Sierra gives him kind of a speech about, you know, how he should handle it. And she's like, "You know, I'm guarded too." And once I get hurt, I go back to my shell and it takes me a minute and, you know, even with that same person.
So, it's like, "I don't trust you." And I can't give you that same version of myself that I once gave you, you know, just like
out of protection, I'm sure. but just explain that, you know, just explain to, just basically
treat her like West. You know, Sierra's projecting kind of her own West thing onto him. He's like, "I know, right. So you want me to tell her to cut her stupid teenage boy hair and take a bath every once in a while?"
"Okay. I don't know that that's going to go over very well." But I'll try it. "Teenful. Yeah.
I love Ben suggesting that he just so guarded in life after he dated. Twenty-four women at once." Sure. Really guarded. So they, now they leave and they go back to the house and they're going to play some
pool games. So they're going to go to the backyard and they're going to play some beer pong and stuff. And some people, so they're scattered around the yard and KJCR and Amanda are sitting on the back deck. And Amanda's like, "So KJ, you had sex yesterday morning and he's like in a hoodie and
he's like closing up the hood on his face." She's like, "Yeah, she's like with who?" She's like, "Wait, you guys are like, "Hon, heavy, are you guys texting this weekend?" And then we see that like this entire episode basically in the background, KJ has been just like texting and calling Dara and just like, "Hey, what's going on?
Hey, it's been about thirty-five minutes, what's new with you.
And I actually found it to be endearing.
βI'm like, I think we've been waiting for another shoot to drop with KJ because like a lotβ
of the stuff he says and stuff he's like setting up the fuckboy thing. But I'm actually starting to believe in this maybe a fatal flaw because I may be proven wrong very soon. I'm starting to believe he may not be a fuckboy after all. He may just be--
Well, he's already past that because he's taking around on multiple dates. Yeah. And he's like, he tells everyone he's like, "Yeah, I just feel like, you know, you know, what? I don't like if people like each other, then they're like, "Oh, we'll see each other
only once a week, like, if you like me, if I like you, whatever, like if you're free, we'll make time." And I was like, "That's so good, that's-- I feel like that's really evolved and great." I was like, "We just like a KJ, KJ, but it's going on here." Yeah.
Look at that. So then we go to Western Ben talking by the pool and West is like, "Oh my God, what should I do best here? I do, they just don't know. She's a girl, that's just so confusing." And he's like, "What are you talking about?" He's like, "I just have so many internal battles."
Cut your hair. Mm-hmm. Sorry. We'll make it very clearly like a statue. Like, "I don't have-- Please, please just cut your hair."
And so Ben's like, "All right, let's go talk. Let's go talk. Let's have a boy talk. You all right." He's like, "Well, it's just up in an gray area with Sierra for so long and it feels good to be like friends." And like, I just love her so much as a friend.
But like, when we were together, it was like, "Dreamy." She's on the real.
βSo I know what she's special and I think you're special as well.β
And I think that if I was around for that, I would have thought it was the greatest thing of all time. Almost like Amanda's smile and her eyes politically, of course. Yeah. She's great.
That's why it sucks. He's like, "All right." So you just totally fucked it up. He's like, "Well, she wants a good boyfriend, you know, and like someone who loves her and takes care of her and I just wasn't in that place, you know."
Aw. So the heart was broken. And she says she really loved you. He's like, "I know, do you have any regrets?" Well, of course.
"Do you miss her?" Yeah. Does she know that? Yeah. But I don't know what else to do.
Oh, sorry. Sometimes I just get rid of applause because I'm a model. I just want to give it a voice. Great shoot. Great shoot, brother.
Great. Great. I believe in you. I believe in you.
βIt's going to make the cover of the JC Penny.β
I can tell you that. Oh, I can tell you that. And that is the end of the episode, wow, summer house. You know, that was a good one. There was good.
All right, everybody. Thanks so much for being here. We will talk to you next time. Bye. Bye.
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