#3267: Summer House S10E7: Spin the Throttle

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It's all happening very excited to dive into this one. So, we begin with Amanda and she's announcing that tonight they are going to be playing spin the bottle because they're all just sitting around in their living room. And they're living room. And it's going to be like a true-through day or spin the bottle. But I think they're just going to kiss.

So, they get into an arrangement and buckle up everyone. Because this goes on for the next 12 minutes of airtime.

“There's just one of those episodes of Summer House, or I'm like, is it over?”

It's just over. What are we doing? You guys are too old to be playing spin the bottle. Sorry. Yeah, and I'm definitely too old to be watching you play spin the bottle.

And he's going to make out with Jesse and pretend that that's fun. Have you heard his new song? I haven't. I watched it silent, and it was still painful. I heard some of it.

Somewhere in our drunken South by South West weekend, I heard a clip of him singing, and it was just so generic. Like, I didn't know you could be more generic than Michael Bublé, but apparently you can be, and it's Jesse Solomon. He wishes, I can't even believe you would say Michael Bublé, because that's like his dream.

He's like going for that, you know? Yeah. Wow. But yeah, here we are. It's a make out episode of Summer House.

Tonight, we're gonna be spin the bottle. We're like, "Turther dares spin the bottle." Oh, wow. So fun. So, they do that.

And West is doing this thing. Where is it? I'm so sad about Sierra. I'm not buying this. You know, you won't even make the effort to take a shower and comb your hair.

I do not believe you're gonna make the effort for Sierra. And then you have this whole episode where he's really trying hard to get the audience,

“I think, on his side, with this whole like, "I'm in a Sierra thing."”

And then we see in the previews him being like, "Yeah, but I'm just, I'm gonna hurt her." And then... "Doing the typical fucking thing, the typical fuckboy thing." But I'm afraid I'm gonna hurt her, and then sure enough, by the end of the preview, she's crying. Like, yeah, 100%.

Yeah, yeah. I'm sort of like, over this thing of like... I don't know, there's like sad, sacky... I knew I mean, you know? Like, I kind of, I'm like...

Shit or get off the pot. Okay? Shit? Or pass the lover boy. Whatever it is.

Like, I'm just like the little, that little touching, whatever. It's just also passive and limp-y. So, Sierra's like, "Are you sad?" He's like, "No, you drunk." Okay, fine.

So Kyle... He, he winds up like sort of flopping down on the sofa in a way that like...

It basically barely winds up stock next to Ben, which is her nightmare, because she can't stand Ben these days,

because he was addicted with the last episode. Yeah.

And Amanda tries to make the rules where, you know,

if married people, or if people are dating, and Ben's like, "No, no, no, no, no." Fuck that. There's not different rules to different people.

“If you want to play, we're all fucking in.”

And Sierra's like, "Yeah, he says, "Nar-Nar-Nar-Nar." And just is like, "Well, how convenient then was to kiss the married people again." And Ben literally cracks up, which proves Bailey's point from last week. Jesse could make the joke and everybody would laugh. I mean, I think that Jesse making the joke and everybody laughing is because he's part of the friend group more.

Like, she's new here. And then also, she actually likes Ben's awkwardness. Yeah, and it's all back. But everything, but still. But still, it's openly mocking the fact that he wants to fuck Amanda,

which everybody knows you do. Mm-hmm. Yes, exactly. So, oh my God, Amanda and KJ, the spin, the bottle spins, and the bottle lands on KJ.

KJ, who is still dating Darah, by the way, as revealed last night on Watcher Happens Live. So they have, like, a cute little kiss.

He kisses her on the cheek.

And then Kyle spins it, and it lands on Jesse. And there is, there is. And like, two kiss on the mouth, kiss on the mouth. They kiss. And then Ben does it, and guess what?

The bottle points to Bailey. Yep, and they make, they fully make out. You know? They have like a real make out. Yeah.

And on the hoggine, he knows how to make it. With you when he's wrong. He may not know how to say, I'm sorry, very well, but he does know how to say, I'm sorry in the right way. By giving you good solid romantic movie make out.

And it works. She's like, okay. I forgive him. Yeah. She totally is one over by his kiss.

It's just so funny. I don't know. I'm just, I feel like I'm seeing him as a faker and faker person. The whole, like, oh, I got actually so. I get so embarrassed when we talk about girls and relationships.

And I'm a really shy guy. And then he's like a shy guy. But then is like has a real strong dick energy and not like big dick energy. I'm talking about dick like personality wise energy towards Bailey last week. But then he like does, I don't know.

There's something about the kiss coming out strong with the kiss that I just didn't. Love. I don't know. It's like it's all like not that doesn't add up with what he proclaimed as personality as earlier. And you're the one who made the girl cry last episode.

But now you're just going to give, I don't know, I'm going to give her a kiss. I'm just going to over at something. It's just not adding out for me. It's like, I can't put my finger on it. But I'm really, I really, he's like really curdled for me.

Um, yeah.

“I mean, but you know what, like, here's the thing about curdling milk is interesting.”

And it's delicious. It's tasty. And it's worth the stomach ache. Ben's just boring. I'm not even going to give him curdling.

You know, things that I really like curdled. Ben, I don't really hate. I don't really like him. He's just some blah-basic dude. So I don't really like her.

Yeah. So Ben is like, well, you know what's on HR sense of humor. But at least she's a good kisser. So, you know, whatever. She's like, low.

That was not the hate kiss. That was like a good kiss. I think my hand was on his face. I don't know. I don't know.

I mean, she was rapturing during it. She was like, like her hand was like on his face. And she was like, "It's all I have to want." So, um, leave my kisses, Kyle's cheeks.

Here it gives key, key Jay. KJ epic. Jesse Kisses West. Here it makes out with Bailey. And then Ben spends and gets a dare.

And it's to jump naked in the pool. You know what? No one did. Let me tell you, in a group full of non-model people. No one has that as a dare.

No one has ever dared me to get naked. And jump anywhere. They're like, is that he leaves dare? Please get cast. My friends play.

Please keep your clothes on Ronnie. That's against we play parties. But also they jump naked into the pool every episode. So it's like, it's like saying, I dare you to get a beverage from the fridge. It's like, well, okay.

That's what I do anyway. I don't know. I don't know. So they spend the calf tan and make running wear it at all times. So then he does it.

Um, so then Jesse spends the bottle and it lands on. Levi and uh, who is there? By the way, Levi is there. So uh, Jesse's like, okay. Yo, kiss Levi.

Levi? Like, who is that? And then I guess he thought that said Lexi. Well, he said Lexi. Oh, where's Lexi?

Like, no. Levi. Anyway, the point is he doesn't even know who Levi is. He's like, who's that? Is that someone for production?

Levi? No, the audience is the same way. They show Levi and they just put up Levi. I'm a screen. Ding.

Hmm. Just one of the arrows like Emerald's girlfriends.

So we never saw lines here.

“They didn't even give Levi a confessionals, I think.”

I just was thinking about it. They were like, now seven episodes in or so.

Have we made me in the first episode? Yeah. She's given confessional. It's just not very many. For sure.

She's gone. She's gone. So um, their west is rubbing his foot. Now I can't see her as leg and moping. Hmm, so Ben Alex does.

Yeah, just size matter.

It means like it's not always about the size.

It's what you can do with it. And they're like, it's the mission of the ocean. Now west is flirting playing fatigue with Sierra. And she's like, uh, whatever. So it's now Kyle's turn.

And he has to make out with Amanda or Amanda has to make out with him. I guess I would say. So um, they do. And um, everyone gives them a. Aww.

He's like, you know, it's ridiculous. But, you know, it's just the kids. But I haven't kids to mad for a while. So I need a guy who's all I needed. She's like, you smell like cheese.

That's, I would love that. Like, that's great. Like, oh, you smell like one of my favorite foods. I have no.

“I have honestly no problem with cheese smell.”

I love it. And I would not be upset if someone smells like cheese. But you just went yesterday's recap talking about how you don't like when people smell like food. No, I don't like, I don't like marshmallow sense. Oh, martyred.

Do I say food in general? Well, I guess I went. I took it to food. Like, why don't I want to fuck you if you smell like food? I took it there, I guess.

But, you know, like, I don't know how to prepare marshmallows. We took a lot of pushback on that. A lot of people use marshmallow scent. Did you know? I didn't know that was like a thing that people didn't know.

Yeah, I did know. Because I smell it everywhere. I 100% know. And I embrace the push. I knew I don't.

I'm like, I'm going into this hot take. Look, I'm awake now. I'm activated. You are. You are.

I'm like, yes. Hey, adrenaline. Hey, Jane Amanda kiss. And then, like, see, I mean, Levi. And then just he's like, oh, well, marshmallow scent.

Well, I'm here. Now, of course, I, of course, I knew that a lot of people were into it. Because I smell it everywhere. And I think it smells awful. And you don't know how many people, by the way,

to all the people who love the marshmallow scent. You don't know how many people that you walk by, afterwards go, ugh, like it's not just me. There's like, I think that there's like a sizable population of people who are disgusted by the marshmallow sentence

that goes by. I mean, every elevator, you don't know, the look when the marshmallow, the person wearing the marshmallow perfume leaves, the way everyone

in the elevator always looks at each other, like, ugh,

it's like it happens all the time. It's not like, this isn't even like a hot take from me. This is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is, what do you call it? I'm not a confrontation when someone's on drugs,

“you have to gather all the family around.”

- Intervention. - Intervention. - Yeah, I'm telling you right now. No one likes the marshmallow sentence. We all suffer through it.

(laughing) - Did you never remember my memory of the smell that, do you think it's like the cilantro bug that people have where some people taste cilantro or it smells like soap, but then maybe some people is normal

'cause I don't mind the marshmallow smell, but man, and then for you to look at other people and then other people are like, yes, we're bonded over this hatred of marshmallow smell. - Yeah, I like now I have actually doubled down

on my hot take and now I've been like, and other people feel the same way. - But it's honestly true. - Yeah, go really. Look around an elevator.

- No, I have to. - Yeah, I'm even. - Yep, but the smell is smelling dope. - I need to go find that backlash, where was it?

Was it on Reddit or something? - Oh, it wasn't huge, it's just some comments. - Oh my God, I'm backing out of the room. - Smelling like marshmallow. - Oh, I have some, you know,

I smell like marshmallow. I love that scent, or they're like, "Isn't this Rihanna scent? "It's my favorite scent," or whoever made the marshmallow. - Oh, well, you made it sound like they were angry at me,

so I got all hostile. - I said people smell like, you just took it that way. - Well, I guess it's been like inside me for a long time, I haven't really had a rant about the marshmallow scent ever in my life,

so it just had to come out. The way you said like there was pushback, I thought it was people being like, "I like it and everyone likes it," so I was like, "No, it's wrong, but now that I know it's people

"be like, oh, I'm so embarrassed."

“And I'm like, yeah, you should be embarrassed.”

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come in that tone. I meant to say, you know, where were you want to wear, but just know, not all of us love it? Where were you want to wear? Just know that Ben is disgusted by your very presence.

Any hopes that you are swallowed up

into a hole in the earth and never to be yelled again.

Because the difference between the marshmallow scent and the cilantro is that like, I'm not going around forcing cilantro into everyone's mouths, but if you have the marshmallow scent, you're forcing that marshmallow scent in everyone's nose.

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- So West keeps kind of now he's like holding on to Sierra, like touching, like just holding her arm lightly. And Jesse's everybody's laughing at him, 'cause he looks crazy. It's like, what is he doing?

And then Jesse laughs it in with his big mouth, and West is like, "Ha ha ha ha ha." - Yeah, oh, Jesse. - He's like, "Bitch, I'll fuck you up." And Sierra's like, "I don't know what the fuck is going on."

“Then she tells us, like I think it's very clear”

that we like miss each other. And like, you know, like we miss our friendship. And like I guess we're still attracted to each other, but it's just like this weird state of limbo. And like it's just like set to sort ofize.

It's like crazy.

It's here at, it's very hard for me to respect you

when you're flirting with this fucking loser. That's it. I can't respect you right now. I'm withholding that. - So Bailey's like, "Okay, well, who's next?"

And like, "Okay, West and Sierra have to make out." And then she, like Sierra drinks her wine, and then my stand's up. And it's like, "Oh my God, but no." So it doesn't happen.

So now, so okay, Jessica, are we done? Could it game everyone's like, "Yeah, I'm yelling around." Call as a bonus. So it puts like a pillow for his boner and stadados out of there. - And we hear it.

- And we hear it. - What was he getting around spying? I don't know. - Actually, someone was wearing marshmallow. - I'm telling you.

- marshmallow.

“- marshmallow sent, got him, got him stiff.”

So now they're gonna rally. They're now they're dancing, clubs send in. And all that stuff, and Jesse is singing something and Sierra's not impressed with him with all of America. And then Ben goes up to Bailey's room.

He's like, "Nox and the door like, "Nor or norc." And he sits on the balcony. - "Nor orc." - "Nor orc", "Nor orc", "Nor orc",

so he's like, "Can we chill for a second?

How's your heart, right? My heart writes through the roof." And she's like, "Mind through the roof." And I can't believe that we had to make out. That was really crazy.

Are you coming over here to yell at me again because I don't have a sweet green salad to throw on the floor? - Oh, but I appreciate that we were about dedicated. If you would say, "No, I would have been really offended."

So I'm glad you just rolled with the patches because I don't know how to flirt. I was just like, "I'm not gonna say now, "I'll be that asshole who's like, "Don't touch me." And he's like, "Yeah, double damn."

Now listen, we're okay. Listen, I don't feel good about yesterday. I was gonna come sort of check on you, you know? When you were crying and then we all went out and had so much fun with that you.

But I just figured it's better to let it go. I was like, "Okay, well, if you're still upset, "you're allowed to be upset." He's like, "No, no, I'm not upset on." Like, he next to you would be with my armpit showing.

- Because I know I'm not upset at all. That's the man's international son for I like you now who look at me armpit. And so Ben's like, "And you know, he's like, "I just want you to let you know, "I'm good, I'm good, I'm good."

And she's like, "Okay." And you can think that I'm still a dick if you want. But by the way, what do you get to say? Like, I just want you to know I'm good. We're good 'cause I'm good.

I'm like, yeah, but I'll be allowed to see if she's good or we're just gonna just keep going. - That's exactly, is this some apology? Or is like, "I just want you to know, "I'm no longer mad at you."

She's like, "Hey, I was the one crying."

“Remember, remember how I was crying and didn't cry?”

I was like, "Mit, you're forgiven." All right, you can still crying. And you know, "Unnourk, Nork yourself." Come back out, come back out. (laughs)

Nork, Nork. So Bailey's like, "Well, I don't wanna think you're a dick. "I just thought you were hot and funny. "I really did." And he's like, "Well, all right, he have dick.

"He have funny would be okay, "although we think beyond the one, full funny and not dick at all. "I'm not going. "Right, you're the one who's problem here. "But I'm good.

"Anyway, we're good. "I promise I'm sorry." So everything's so angry. - There we go. - I took a minute, but it came out.

- She's like, "Well, I accept it. "Hi, thank you. "I appreciate it." Very, have a good very hard time flirting. Okay, Bailey, okay.

So they hug, and then she's like, "Yeah, we're moving forward, "but the crash-out bed is dead. "We're just both passionate.

"but no relationship."

I mean, there's just too much passion, too much fire for me.

I think it's sweet greens. - Yeah, that's sweet greens. So what else do you wanna share? So we woke up. Now it's Sunday, and it's 9.53 AM.

Everyone's waking up. They're like, "Don't wake up at 9.54, 9.53 is when you wake up." So they wake up, and they're all sort of like hungover and they're gonna shower. And man, it's like, "I'm gonna shower."

And cause like, "I'm gonna come in with you." - What? - I'm gonna shower with you. - No, you take a shower, then I'll shower, it's like, "Oh, no, you man."

She's like, "I don't wanna think a shower with you." She's like, "You got you the watch, you got you the watch." Bailey and Levi's room.

Levi's so drained, you guys.

And Bailey says, "Yeah, I managed to attract a bad discreet "but be, we're not even fucking." So what about that? - So then Amanda goes to Sierra's room and she's looking for a yellow top.

And Amanda's like, "Do I fall on my butt at some point yesterday?" - And she's like, "My ass still hurts from the fall, too." Everyone's butt hurts, we see Sierra falling at the winery on. - She should also give, since I feel like our days would leave our number, we should give credit

to the fact that she basically quoted Marlow Hampton when she said, "God, this weekend, drain me." 'Cause that's Marlow's big line is, "Today, drain me." Which I don't even know why that line is such a, why did that line go viral with Marlow?

“It's just like, remember, it's like her via,”

if you go online, there's all these memes of Marlow saying, "Today, drained me." I'm like, "I support the meme, 'cause I like it. I like a Marlow meme, but I don't fully understand why that."

It's like, "Oh, yes, what an amazing line."

I don't know why that one's won the broke through. But either way, I'm gonna give credit for Lexi for paraphrasing it on the show. - Okay, so then West is joining Ben on the couch and Kyle comes in, sky time.

And West is like, "I don't remember anything which is of course he doesn't because he's on these shows." And they have this magic thing where they don't remember anything when they're drunk. I unfortunately remember everything.

I wake up and I'm like, "Oh, shit." I just have the whole litany of crap that I did or the whole list of crap, I guess I should say. I've shit that I did the night before and immediately start sending text

to make sure that people are not mad at me. - Like, "Oh, I'm so sorry, but hope we're good." I don't get this nobody remembers. - Is it a curse that I remember things? - No, it just means that you drink responsibly, I guess,

'cause you don't black out or that you don't lie.

“Like these guys obviously didn't care lying, yeah, I think they're lying.”

So West is like, "Yeah, the wine we got the best of me." So Jesse walks, he's like, "Hey, is this a boys' pile?" And then in Sierra's room, Amanda is like, "Last night, Sierra, West was like touching you. He was like rubbing your back, which by the way,

can we circle back to that?" I did think it was like a little weird. During that whole scene, the spin the bottle, I was one thing like, "When West put his little sock on Sierra's foot, okay, and he had to stretch so far 'cause he was so far away."

But then when he kind of put his hand and was stroking the lower of her back, I actually felt like this doesn't feel quite right because you guys don't have that relationship anymore. And that's like, it was a little bit of an intimate thing.

And I don't know, I was sort of surprised that Sierra was not upset about that because I would think that that would be a little bit of like a boundary crossing. So I just wanna clock that because I thought that was a little like, to me.

- To set your and keep giving him looks like, "What the fuck are you doing?" So weird. - Yeah. - Like last week he said, "I'm just afraid to talk to you "and you don't know how to talk?"

- You're just like, "Yeah, on purpose, that's how I made it." And so now I guess he's throwing his hat in the ring by being like, "Are we flirting?" - I don't know, I'll touch your non-love handle, you know? - Yeah, I don't think it needs to be like a whole...

- You've crossed boundaries, but I would at least like her to like move her hand his hand away or potential positions 'cause like... - I just felt like, I don't know, it wasn't, I'm not gonna be like, it was a violation.

I'm just like, no, I felt like that was like a little like, I don't know if I would have done that.

“- I don't know, I just felt like, yeah, I guess I think you should take your hands off that.”

- I just don't know if I was like, "Was the last thing you remember West?" - I don't remember the bottle spinning around, but I don't remember you guys. - The boy, the boy, the boy with the white cloth. - Just look, you were like grabbing serious leg, the whole game.

- Wow. - Yeah, that was crazy. And he's like, "Oh, no, oh, stop." So in a man does like, "Maybe you've been too nice to him. Have you ever thought for rating him every time you see him?"

I've just been too nice." So West tells us--

“- I'm gonna start laughing because clearly she's not been too nice.”

- True, yeah. - She's like, yeah. I'm sure that's every guy in this house is problem. I'm just too nice.

- So West is like, yeah, it tells us there's always like,

a little something there, but I still haven't had that real conversation with Sierra, so I don't really like, truly fucking know anything, but maybe she's at a point where like, this is something but like, I don't know. Well, thanks for sharing West.

That was great. That's very insightful. - He's so romantic. Now, everybody is getting ready to leave and saying, bye and all that stuff.

- Thanks for the makeup, Ben. He's like, "Oh, yeah, we killed it, boy, the way. I want you to know on your way home." - You were forgiven. - I'm good. - I'm good, a little lady.

- Right? - Did you think that was appropriate to touch mine on a cheekbone while you were kissing me? - Oh. - 'Cause I never said that it was appropriate.

Okay, we're good. Be good. All right, you can have a nice tearful drop drive home on, okay. - I'm now Bailey, my little theater kid on Summer House,

has the most natural scene ever.

“She's walking down the street and she's like,”

"I am going to call Carl because I really miss Carl. I missed Carl so much. "I am going to call him. "Let me lean on this building and call Carl. "Hello, Carl."

And he's like, "Oh, hi, it's me, Carl." - Oh, hello, it's this Carl. - Yo, it's me, it's Carl. - Well, hello, Carl. This is me, Bailey, from the Summer House.

- Ooh, ho, ho, how are you Bailey? - Oh, ho, ho, ho. - Hi, it's me, Carl. You've reached my teeth. I'm not here right now to take the call.

But if you'd like to leave a message and your phone number, the rest of my body will soon be here to catch up with my teeth and call you right back. - Well, I didn't have a very lovely kid, but I'll let that note.

I wanted to ask if you wanted to grab a coffee or a grab lunch or something this week. So I can catch you up on everything

because you are sorely missed.

- She's making all these kind of soap opera faces during, what is she's a very aware of the camera this one? She's like a detective announcing the end of the mystery. - She's like, she's like kind of like semi-formal

brown dress like leading up against a building. - Hello, shall we make a lunch date? - Oh, look. - So now I'm supposed to believe that Bailey and Carl are gonna date, I don't.

I don't believe it. This show does not need to be a dating show. I don't need that. - I don't. - I like it when they kind of happen today,

but now it's just becoming a dating show. I don't need this. - Well, you know what Carl probably put in the request of producers, he's like, probably I'm on the sidelines a little bit.

So do you mind, put in me on the books? - Oh, hold, I'm gonna love interest. - Guys, show. - Show. - Just lying for this year. I'm sleeping downstairs.

I'm in the mix. I need a love interest. - Mika! - There you go. - You're gonna hop a, like more I care, is that?

- Mika, you're hop on. - Hold. - So we get a flashback to two days ago to explain why the hell Bailey is calling Carl right now. And we see Bailey and Levi are talking and Bailey's like,

I'm so sad that Carl's not here. If he was here, I'd be going downstairs and talking to him right now. Just as he would, just gabbing, gabbing away as you normally would with your love interest.

And Levi's like, well, you can call him, just like, no, I'd probably just start sobbing. - Yeah, he was really such a good person I talked to. Yeah, he's so nice. It's like, Mickey B. Cry, how nice Carl is.

Oh my God, I miss Carl, I miss Carl, I miss Carl more. I miss Carl more, I miss Carl more. I miss Carl, nobody misses Carl. What are you talking, Carl doesn't do anything. Carl just stands there, give me a break

at this, I miss Carl. Carl 14.0, he's in the mix. What do you know about? He's like standing there in the mix at my, I'm like the wouldn't spoon when you're making brownies, just in the mix, all all all all looking forward to spill it.

Hey, I'm looking forward to seeing you in the city because we haven't seen each other or much of each other. Other than that one time, it bends happy hour. Remember that? Love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love.

- Well, that needs so much to be. That needs so much to be Carl. I'm so excited. I'm going to text you and we'll hammer out the details, but I'll see you this whole night.

I have a call coming in from Levi. - Who? - Levi. - Who's that? - Jeans?

- Levi. - Oh my. Levi, hi. - Hi, Miss Carl. - I miss Carl too, I miss him so much.

- I miss Carl. - I'm calling Carl. - I'm sobbing right now, he's on the other one. I'm actually already starting to cry because he's a fun guy.

“I think he's trying to do a flashback to the bends.”

Singles party 'cause he gives the same blow, blow, blow, blow, blow, blow. But I'm not going to flashback. (laughs) - He got flashback, but I need the flashback to talk into Carl, because I was talking to Carl right now, but now I've talked to you that I really miss Carl, so I've got to go.

(laughs) - Hi, what's up, Levi? I'll totally fly, so I look real well. - So then, um, yeah, Bailey's like, what a sleedy. Now it's Wednesday and KJ goes to the gym, and in comes Dara.

So I feel like it's Dara, is she a cast member?

but she gets confessional, I don't even work in on it.

- That's for sure. - No, she's rising, I'm like, watch out, Levi. So Dara, they are getting a little boxing date, a little warm up and everything, and Dara's like, yes, my nice. And he's like, yeah, did you grab your gloves?

And she's like, yeah, I have them. I brought them, and they hand wrapped too. He's like, yeah, I'll help you put them on. He's like, yeah, I need a little bit of a tutorial. He's like, yeah, okay, let me leave you tutorial.

This is how you put on your gloves if you're a lover boy. That's who I am, I can't help it. - And when she comes and she's like, "Oh, wow, I see you're already clipped up." "Wow, we clipped up when he boxing already."

"Wow." And she tells us, yeah, I was born and raised in Boston, so like, I was raised to take no shit.

“Like, did you hear that thing I said about the gloves?”

I'm Dara. - Yeah, I'm from Boston. I've got the right stuff. Oh, oh, no kids in the block are from Boston too. That's just sort of like who I am.

I was a very physical kid, and like there were times where I'd like be sent home from elementary school, because they said, "She won't stop punching boys in the arm." And my mom was like, you get a boxing bag in the foreschool. You get to have a minute with your boxing bag,

which I like looked back, it was like kind of horrifying. My mom was also Melissa Leo, and she was just like really trying hard to get me into a boxing movie.

And it never really what really happened, but it's fine.

- Yeah, I'm Dara. I had a boxing thing before I went to school every day. - Okay, I'm sure. - So like, I'm sure this little kid, she has a boxing. Look at her mom's hair.

Here's something to hit every day, go for it. She's like, so my backstory is that I was an unruly child, and I got kicked out of school for being a total monster. So yeah, you're right, I'm Dara. - So he has to, you know, he's showing her how to box.

And he's like, I want you to just focus on how I'm immediately coming back to this, like right here, like standing position, 'cause you gotta protect yourself. Do you like that guy more than me? Look, there's that guy over there.

Do you think he's hot? Am I bigger than that guy? Am I dead? - Let me get in. - So like, yeah, you're doing, you're really hot.

You can just do it, I can just watch you. 'Cause you're really hot when you box. - My flirting style now, we're not trying to go full bully, but I think a little bit of like, playful teasing, like I feel like it's like an initiation fee.

You know, like, if you can handle a little bit of jab, then we can keep on talking, you know, and like that kind of vibe. I like that she goes, we're not trying to go full bully.

“Sort of implying that, that's what she used to do.”

Like if I like a guy, I just will bully him. But now I'm not full of-- - Yeah, that's her style.

She's always like, oh, really?

Your drinkin' before I even got here. Wow, wow, really starting it off right. - That's me, Darren, I'm a tough chick. My tough chick from Boston. - Hey, but this weekend's the party,

you like, if you would like to come, you should come, and bring some pajamas. - Oh, really? Is that you asking me to sleep over? - No, it's my way of saying the house is drafty.

If you're sleeping on the sofa, you might get cold, so make sure you have some PJs. - Wow, if that's what you got, is that the best flirting you got? Who is that flirting?

That's Darren. - Now it's Thursday, and I call in Amanda's, Amanda's giving a dog a treat, and call in. - So we're a treat, right? - What is it?

It's like a little bottle, and you open the bottle, and then you squeeze the treat kind of into the dog's mouth slowly. Like the dog's drinking out of the top of the little bottle, I didn't understand what the treat was. - It's Craig Connovers, Prince Company,

and you like, you give you dog treats. - Well, I don't do that to me, man. - So he's like, I'm a zombie, sometimes when I wake up, even if he's after an hour and a half, I can't go back to sleep,

'cause I'm a woman, where's it in to me? She's like, well, do you? - She's doing that thing where her eyes are really wide, 'cause she's like, trying out to yell at Kyle.

“She's like, um, do you think that maybe you should be,”

like, cutting back on some of the stuff that you do, Kyle? - They're like, uh, like, what, I'm sleeping. - No, you know, like, do you, Jane? - No, I know. I have decided Dallas and Thursday for 12 hours,

'cause I got a DJ, you know, stuff like that. - Well, maybe we'll move for you to change things. - But, like, what would I change? - She's... - Anything?

- Amanda's like, at this place now, where she now is just, like, smiles when she next Kyle, because she's just so over it, that she's like, like, I just have to laugh because he's so predictable. Like, audience, you see this, right?

You see that this, I'm not crazy, right? Like, look, like he's about to fall into his own trap, right? Like, she's actually, like, entertained by this now. So she has a full smile while she's saying this stuff, which is what's so funny, and she's like,

"Well, I don't know, maybe some of the new careers "you've taken on, you could change." And he's like, the DJing not only brings me probably the most joy out of everything right now, but also helps connect the dots with love or boy.

a lot for you.

“- Amanda, I just can't, like, there's just, like,”

not a great place.

Like, I'm only the various opportunities.

Like, pump the brakes, Amanda. - Mm, yeah, like the same. - This was the... - Yeah, this was the good, this was the good thing about it for me, is that they're both, obviously,

do not discuss anything together. They don't talk to each other anymore. And they're only talking to each other because there's cameras there. And they're both looking at the camera,

like they're both looking right at the camera, and like, can you believe this fucking idiot? - So much, like, so anything you can get now, he's like, no, and then he knows what she's doing, so he keeps looking at the camera

and kind of laughing, like, go ahead. Like anything to say, they're just using the cameras against each other, and it's so funny. He's like, "Well, you know, I haven't tried it "about it with you, but I'm close to signing

"with Amanda, Amanda, and it'll help me book better gigs "that pay more and like devise a DJ's strategy." And she's like, "Um, well, how long are we gonna do "this DJ thing for?" And then he just goes, "Ah, like, looks at the cameras,

"like, really?" She's just gonna do this to me on camera. - Right, my God. - And he's gonna even talk. - After, after I have commissioned a photo

where I look seriously at the camera and where I look like a little pleasure jacket, you're really gonna do this to me, that's my DJ career. And Amanda's like, "Is there another part I should dwell on?"

- 'Cause he's like, "You're really dwelling on the DJ part." - Well, what I also am supposed to dwell on, how about all the stress from Leverboy? I don't know. She's like, "Well, we don't ever talk about the DJ thing.

"We've talked about Leverboy for years, "and I know it stresses you out,

"and I know you're always trying to figure it out."

And I'm just like wondering what your plan is with the DJing, but also because, like, you know, I'm not really roped into it. I didn't marry a DJ, and she's like, "Smiles looks at the camera, like,

"that was pretty good, right?" And she's like, "And all of a sudden, "I'm now like the wife of one, right America, right?" Like, do you see this being like a long-term thing,

“smiling at the camera, like, this gets crazy, right?”

- I love seeing when you give your friend advice, and then they take the advice. Like Sierra told her a couple weeks ago, you didn't marry a DJ. Like you did not sign up to be married to a DJ.

You did not sign up to be a DJ's wife. And so now she's like, "Well, I didn't marry a DJ, "and all of a sudden, I'm the wife of a DJ." She's smiling, like, "Thanks Sierra, ding ding." (laughing)

So she's like, "So you're just gonna be in my life now, Kyle." And he's like, "Well, I mean, I'm not like, "Piant a bar, I'm not an idiot." Looks fucking soft to you over there. Like, "But you're gonna be like..."

- If you find if they just both start laughing, and that was the thing that yelled their marriage is like, "You're right." I'm not gonna buy a bar without alcohol, like that moron.

And she's like, "You're just gonna be like, "traveling and playing late all the time." Like, that's just gonna be, yeah? Like, that's just how things are gonna be. - And he's like, "Oh, not only am I making it money

"and anytime I'm not paying myself a love or boy, "I'm making money doing DJ gigs, "but I'm also getting lover-boying to venues "and normally charge." And I just don't understand how she doesn't see it

from my perspective, Kyle. Here's how I think everybody sees it. Love or boy is tanking. And instead of accepting that lover boy is tanking, you're using it as an excuse to go to bars every night,

which you've been doing for years, but now you're adding the DJ thing. And using lover boy is an excuse to DJ and using DJing as an excuse to keep doing, you're in a cycle, and it's a bad bet.

It's not gonna end well, so I'm gonna end well. Like, while you're sitting here talking about how DJing

finally gives you the money,

like, because you can't take money from lover boy, like, do you have to sit?

“Do you have to announce this on the heels”

of explaining why you couldn't gross any money? Yeah, Carl for his soft bar, you're like, I can't get money like a scar, I can't, I don't want any money to get a soft bar. I'm not even taking a salary and then the next breath.

Well, I got a DJ because otherwise I don't get any money, and this is how I get money. This is how I can get some extra money in my pockets. It's like, so do you have money or do you not have money to give this off bar, right?

So he is, he's just talking about life. Oh, I'm paying for benefits and future. I don't know, you would think that would matter to Amanda. So he's like, I think this is a, there's a path to making a very good living here.

She's like, well, where do I fit in? Where does life fit in? I'm just trying to figure out how much you're taking up, taking us into consideration with some of these decisions. It's like, well, I thought you could maybe be the one

to like order some CD cases on Amazon. That would be pretty cool for my CDs. CDs on to that. I would love the Kyle still selling CDs. He's up there on the corner.

This is, you know, giving me some baby max, some baby max, you know, holders, so she's scored. He's like, well, I mean, I get it, Amanda, but I mean, like, they both fight each other with white eyes. Like, he gets really wide eyes and she gets really wide eyes.

He's like, well, and then I'll turn it in. It's just like, sit around here all we can do nothing.

I mean, what we doing together, you know?

Because I was always his thing before he started DJing.

She was like, you're out drinking all the time. And he's like, yeah, but you're home to press all the time. And you don't want to do anything with sit around here and get high and watch Netflix. But like, why can't they find a balance?

That's what I don't understand.

“I mean, I think they just, obviously the Kyle doesn't want a balance.”

I believe, or they don't want a balance. But to me, it's like, okay, DJ, have your fun. Look, come back to me and spend time with me too. Like, like, make me a priority as well. 'Cause then I will support this fun thing that you're nurturing over here.

But if you're just diving into it and then you're actually like, I'm the crazy one because I'm feeling lonely over here. And then the loneliness is making me depressed. And then you're gonna act like you're the victim here. When I'm the one who's like, like, my guy is out there

and like, just leaving me to just sit here and rot. Like, you know, like, don't do that. - Like, you're just not compatible, guys, you're not compatible. That man is only happy if he's out being social and Amanda is home.

Happy on account, watching that place. That's okay. They're both okay. Just stop trying to make it happen. It's painful.

It's fucking painful. So now, or accept your differences. I have a very close friend. And he is an extrovert and his wife is an introvert. And he goes out and he does stuff all the time.

And she stays in and they love that for each other. And she and she is like, she's like, oh, please go out. Be with your friends. I don't want to be with them. Like, not like in a mean way.

She's like, I want to be. I just don't feel like I want being around people. - I want to be around you. - She wants to read the book. And like, and they both know what each other needs

and wants how they fill their cups and they support it.

And they always come back to each other.

But my friend always is like, that being said, the moment she sends out that bat signal of like, hey, I need you right now. He's like, I'm going home, right? Because if someone's going to give you that freedom

to be out and about and do something,

“then you have to be like, hey, if they're given the bat signal.”

And I goes the other way too. If he gets the bat signal, like, I need you to come out with me tonight for this thing. And I do wonder if maybe one of the issues is that the bat signals in this relationship

Amanda setting out bat signals and the bat man's not coming back. He's not leaving the cave. - Well, I'm going to get the issue is that he's going out. She's saying, okay, go out and have fun.

So he does, but then there are all these rumors and people deeming her that he's making out with people in Chile on her left and right. So that's beyond just, you know, your friends, I think that works 'cause they trust each other.

And this one, there really isn't many trust lovers. So yeah, that's one thing that's like, I would not be surprised if one element of this is like, I'm giving you the freedom to do this, but you have to give me something in response

and I'm not getting that and no one's getting upset. - Yeah, she was like, "Well, we could spend time together, "but it sounds like you're signing with a manager now." So I guess just figured that out. Okay, well, I gotta get back to work.

- 'Cause the whole time she's been eating a burrito, by the way, she's, they're standing in a kitchen. - Like the butt? - And then, this is been a funny ass, like, eating a burrito we've seen in a while.

She's like, got her eyes wide open, just staring at Kyle smiling in the whole time. Well, she jumps down a burrito and then she's like, "Okay, lunch is over, bye." I also thought it was funny when she said,

"Gotta get back to work." 'Cause that was like, "What? "Work is a man to do in these days. "I guess the bikini, business." - Yeah, sure.

- I'm gonna do it, does the bikini thing "in the lover boy's stuff, though." - Okay. ♪ Delicious, here comes one right now ♪ - Indeed, that Ausreden.

- In my Nakan's life, it's time to write, "Ouch, that's recruiting."

“That's what kind of fascist cycling is up-geleaked.”

- So, I'm going to write the right-hand, and I'm going to write the five-and-seed-seed-you-all-rested-good-tab. On the right-hand-hand-share-good-tab, it's the RGB.

- Then, first, make a comparison.

That's all people from online. Add.dok.during.sh. All the love to write, I'm not sure if I can still write it. - I'm going to write my iPhone and Demi, to synchronize it just just now.

Add.me.com/credible for.h.sh. The Apple Chip-Hide Practish-Leges Aguilair Trauma. - So, I'm going to write it first. And as you can see, this is the new MacBook Neo. A star-cam-make-so-im-smart-and-place.

A far more of Apple.de-shrek-shrich-make. - It's Friday, August 1st. Ooh, we're in August now. Oh, August the saddest month. Because it means that summers almost over.

- And everyone's driving to the Hampton, and we got KJ West and Carl are driving, and KJ's like boys, boys, boys, welcome back, Carl, and Carl's a ho-ho-ho. - Thanks, great to be back in the next floor.

And West is like, "I heard a word about towns." Oh, really? What did you hear, Earl? - A little date. - Oh, yeah, Belly.

#WinsDayPanKicks. And I wasn't expecting to have as much fun as I did, and I really enjoy talking to her. - So we see a flashback to the date. He's like, whoa, I've been singing you on your floor,

and you're recording journey. I mean, are we recording now? Is this farting? Oh my God. In the next.

- Like, yeah, I mean, we are flating, aren't we?

“- Well, I think so, this is farting, right?”

- I think it's farting. - Well, then we're doing pretty good of farting. - She's like, okay, yeah. - Really? - Yeah, since that's fucking farting.

- This month. - Wow. - Fucking textbook. Textbook row, we have right here.

We're feeling amazing off the screen, guys.

This box, this box, everyone be careful. - It's not TV on fire, it's smoking. It's smoking. - Don't, don't bring in any hydrogen gas, because there are spikes happening on screen, sparks are happening.

Isn't it funny to think that page is first season on this show? The entire story line was like her and Carl hooking up and like making out in a pantry and like sexual chemistry and going on dates.

It's like, it just seems like so, like, how in what world did that ever happen? It's like, how? - How's the different Carl back then? - It was a different Carl, the different page,

but more of a different Carl than it was.

“And it just like, wow, how times have changed, right?”

- Yeah, and it was still like, well, how are you gonna pretend you're interested in me if you'll only take me out on Wednesday dates? - For some thought it? - Yeah, it was not like Wednesday.

- And here we are at a lunch date. - We're here at a lunch date. - Yeah, it takes on a Wednesday. - Yep. - Just a hill, grass.

- Hasn't learned. - Yeah, that's the learned. - So, Wes is like, so is there any PDL or knows a whole lot? Don't only know what PDL stands for,

is that sand for papaya, papaya, and try orange peel. 'Cause that's one of my drinks that's not far. I'm just about workshopping, I'm workshopping, sorry. - That's a public display of, oh my God, I'm in the mix.

(laughing) He's like, completely honest, I didn't walk daily in that regard, but like over the last month, I've been vibing with her, and I feel a little a depth of conversation with her that I really enjoy.

You guys wanna show that flashback again? I think we're flirting. - Yeah, we're really flirting. Remember how you flirting with that? - Am I flirting right now?

- I think you're flirting? - I don't know. Super deep guys, super deep. He's like, yeah, a little bit of a crush.

“- Oh, you know what else would be great if it was crushed?”

Me, put your weight on me, Bella. It's official, put your weight on me. - Oh, so then what's this like? Cash will probably for sure lay one on you tomorrow. Oh, well, she's not coming on this weekend,

because the producer always makes sure

those one person would carry on, and it drives the audience crazy that we can't have the whole full cost ever single weeks. So she's gonna say that. - Oh, so me and Amanda are driving together,

and she's talking about how she went to her boyfriend Scott's restaurant opening in Miami, and it was beautiful, it was incredible. She's so proud of him, but it's my distance, it's like really sad,

because she wishes she was with your boyfriend, and then they turned to Kyle's birthday, he's turning 43. And Amanda's like, yeah, he's nine years older than I am, she's like, holy shit, Amanda.

That's kind of insane. Why does he look like he's 15? - I'm not even talking about your age difference. I'm talking about the man's genetics, is he eating stem cells for breakfast?

What the fuck? - Yeah, and me as like, so I kind of get the feeling that the last few weekends, was it weekends or was it years? Something seems a little bit off at times with you guys.

- Yeah, it's hit or miss, you know, I'm gonna just like put on, you know, a happy face for his birthday, but as long as he's in a good chipper mood, we'll be all great this weekend.

So we'll see, you know, hopefully banded and pissed him off and the car ride out, and Amanda's joking, like I'm not trying to fuck my mates' misses, they're really like, I'm used by that line. So now Kyle and Ben arrived

'cause Kyle had to take a separate car because his car needed to go into the shop. So that's too bad. And he's like, I love being the first one here. So we're all you're gonna go to the rosé,

straight to the rosé right here. - So they're talking about how it's his birthday weekend, and he's like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna exercise this thing. Oh, I know this is called. - My relation, remember me all night?

- I'm gonna start laughing. And he's like, you know, my grandmother on my dad's,

so I was always like, age is just a number.

And so on her birthday, she don't wanna be told how else she was. And I like that, you know, you're only as old as you wanna be. Age is a number, and the number tells you how old you are and how long you've been on this earth. Stop, stop, getting mad at descriptors, you know?

Just not reading calories doesn't mean that they're not in there,

You're old.

- Tell that to Adrian and Demora.

- Okay. (laughs)

“- You wanna say like, how could you put another math equation up?”

Every time she sees a math equation, she gets triggered. She can't watch a beautiful mind. She's like, they could put my age up on the screen. - Russell, come on, it's trying to get me. It's trying to get me.

- They're cheers, they're cheers, who wants to act the rage? Not me, not me, not me. - Linne, you're right. - Linne, you're right. - Linne, you're right. - I love that. - Okay, now, Linne, this is when you, when you're aging,

and you're fine with aging. Linne is like just going right into, she's still having fun in doing whatever the fuck she wants, but she's also accepting age so well. She gets out of the Uber and she goes,

"And thank you, I have a good weekend, five stars. Hopefully you'll do the same for me." - She's one of the, which means she was probably a terror in the car.

She's like, "Can you always pull over?"

I actually like this route, please. Oh yeah, can we go starmos? Oh, I can go, oh yeah, five stars. It's all right, take us, let me get you five stars. (laughs)

- I just want you to know, I've got your Vim number written down. - Yeah, and in my pocket, five stars. - It was just, it was just Aunt, Aunt Roda. She was like, "Okay, honey, I'm actually not your Uber driver. "I'm your aunt, okay, A-R."

- Even Linne's just trying to be nice, just sounds so threatening at all times. - I know. - Tara does. - It's like, "I felt like a valed threat."

Like, if Linne's a low Uber rating, she's like, "Go to San Francisco," I'm like, "Hey, can you see me?" - Can you see me? - Can you see me?

- Can you see me? (laughs)

So Jessie is like, "Honey, I'm home, my dear friends.

"Just cardboard friends. "Just me." Oh, they're my friends, 'cause I guess he drove out alone also. And so we go and says, "Hi, it's just so funny "on this show how, like, this is thick and all,

"just, they could be in the same set for the entire show." And shoot two scenes that are not on that set. And we come back, we see them all saying hello on the same set again. Like, "Hey, how's it going?

"Yeah, what's it going? "How's it going? "Oh, they're all saying hello to each other again." And he was not coming so little later. And so she's like, "Oh, are you in Sanera Gun?"

And he's like, "Yeah, I'm just chipping the waiter. "No, man." And she's like, "Oh, my, I'm good to see you "and if I want to make out with someone, "I'll make sure to ask you later."

And we're gonna start laughing. They're like, "Yeah, Lindsay, the ballbuster." So he had a man to arrive. And Lindsay's like, "Yeah, why?" He, five stars, right? We'll hold on, excuse me, I'm just checking

to see if my fans are reviews coming in yet. And I was gonna come in yet, I'm gonna come in yet.

“I'm gonna come in yet, I'm gonna come in yet, right?”

And I'm gonna come in yet, right? And I'm gonna come in yet, right? And I was gonna come in yet, right? And I was gonna come in yet, right? And I was gonna come in yet, right?

I was gonna come in yet, right? And I was gonna come in yet, right? And I was gonna come in yet, right? And I was gonna come in yet, right? And I was gonna come in yet, right?

And I was gonna come in yet, right? And I was gonna come in yet, right? It's arrived, they're gonna put it in the pool of you guys, wow, yeah, a pool of whoop, and they're Amanda's like, "Hey, Jay, did you see Dara? What did you do?" He's like, yeah, and they're like, "Oh my God." Look, I'm at smile, he's like, "What did you ask him? Did he see Dara?"

And they're all like a Twitter, because, you know, it's going well. And Kay, just being bashful, and he says they invite a Dara to stay over. Yeah, so then Carl comes up, he's like, "Oh, hi, everybody. "Oh, what am I, Chokes? 'Cause I'm in the mix. Hi. Hi, guys." He's like, "Um, how long, Carl?"

Well, hello, Lindsay. "How are you? You have a new haircut?" Oh, I just didn't put anything in it today, so kept it easy, Breeze, here, did you get your haircut? Oh, I'd love to see that you treat your haircut, we did our relationship, put nothing into it. Great, good for you!

Uh, I think your haircut? Not recently?

“Oh, okay, that's nice. Are you sure you didn't cut it shorter?”

Mike, you cut our relationship, and now I didn't go. Is it okay? Well, uh... Okay, well, just working on a friendly relationship style here. Are you going to get this conversation five stars? I will do the same. You guys are crushing it. That was great, you guys.

I'm going to give you a round of applause. Oh, I actually thought that was pretty good. Oh, it was pretty good. Well, it all's great. Yeah, it's beautiful, who wants to say, "No, right, I'm going to go now." So, then Sierra arrives. West that's up this pool hoop that he's excited about.

He's like, "Guys, I made it, but like no one cares." He's like, "Okay, well, no one else is allowed to play in it then." 'Cause they're not 12 West. Okay, for fuck's sake. And then Lindsay and Sierra, again, Lindsay's like, "Then I've got my finger in your butt, by the way, I'm sorry. It's more action than I ever got with Carl."

So, KJ and Carl are in a room, and you can Carl's like, "Oh, what's up? Well, how are you feeling?" I don't know. I'm like in a weird mood at the moment. 'Cause like, you know, I'm really trying my best to be free from like, I'll just be court told with Lindsay.

I mean, to me, her energy is just like, I mean, I just don't know what I'm going to get. Like, yesterday, when I got lunch with Bailey, she was explaining how she spent a lot of time with Lindsay over the last few weeks. And of course, Lindsay's going to fill her head on everything that's gone on.

"Well, we talked about you at the car ride,

and we talked about you at lunch." And she probably has to say review of you that Ben has about me, "Well, we're going to go with two thumbs down." "Okay, what kind of date was that?" "Was that a date?"

“"I was morning. That's what we're doing."”

It just like caught me off car, like some of that commentary. I just like, I want things to be okay. I just wish I wasn't so sensitive. Come on, old Carl's coming back. I need to be new Carl in the mix. I'm in the mix. I'm in the mix. I'm in the mix. I'm in the sense of activity."

Oh. Well, I'm literally the same way I could not stop thinking, 'cause I could fix it on shit. And then it affects my mood. It's actually being focal and filmurable about shit. Yeah. I'm going to try and get filmurable. Yeah, get it off your chest, bro. Get it off your chest.

Yeah. I think, yeah, you already know. You already know. We're going to have a great weekend. Yeah, yeah. We're going to have a great weekend. Because, like, I'm not sensitive. I'm in the mix. And it's like, new Carl. I'm like, I'm like a fun guy.

Oh, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold, hold. It almost is like, um, so, my outside guys. I don't have a time salmon this, but I know that West was rubbing your backs here. And we see a flashback to that. And me as like, I have my own theory guys.

“I don't want to break the internet or anything, but I think West is in love with you.”

Like, oh, wow, where'd you get that idea? Was it the most worst? Who was like crying while he was like trying to rub her back and performatively being a very sensitive person? Was it? Because he realized this is the most gorgeous, wonderful person he will ever be able to meet and have a shot with and he screwed it up. So badly. I actually don't really get every single second.

I actually don't think it's that at all. I still don't think he realizes that. I think he's just like, I'm on a TV show. Now Sierra's here. I'm just going to try and make something happen and get some camera time. I don't believe when I actually don't think it's fucking guy. I actually don't even think it's because the TV show. I do think that Sierra, I think that he has, I don't know if he's in love with Sierra, but I do think that he may be in

love with the idea of being with Sierra. And I think that he sees Sierra as she's a super cool girl. Everyone loves her. She's like universally. I think really loved by the audience by everyone. And she just seems to get better every year. Every year Sierra just becomes sort of like more more of a star. She's dropped at gorgeous. She's just like someone that like you could,

I think that he could see himself being this amazing power couple with her. And they would just

like, they would run the tables, right? And he knows he messed it up. And it's like, oh, I could have that. So I don't know if he's in love with her necessarily. Maybe he is. But I think he definitely is like damn. I could just spend an entire summer with this like this goddess. And I can't even and I messed it up. And now I'm like shit. So I think that's where it may be coming from more. Do you understand like the difference of what I'm kind of like trying to say here?

I do. I understand what you're saying. And that could be that could be it. I mean, I don't know. I'm not in his head. I don't see that. I see everything that you're saying about Sierra. I think that's true, but I don't think that he looks at it that way. Because I don't think he sees her worth. I see I think he looks at her as a device, as some kind of a plot device to use. He was crushed by her last year, but whatnot by her, but by the public reaction to what he did. And the audience

is reacting to how she reacted. And now he's just trying to, I mean, I'm very cynical about it. Because I just don't trust him. I think he's a fucking loser. And I think he's a fucking user. He's a booser, a loser in the user. That's what he is. I don't trust one fucking thing out of him. And I don't really for one second that he sees her worth. I think he sees her as a stepping stone. Well, I should say it's not that he sees her worth. I think he sees how

she's worth other people if that makes sense. He sees how it would raise him up. I think

“of, well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think we'll go with him if he's using her. Yours is a little”

bit more cynical, but it's, I think yours is more also like he's also using it for TV. And I'm not sure if he's using it for TV, but I think everything else I agree on. I think that he just,

he's seeing her as this thing. That's like, wouldn't it be amazing if we were, if we were together?

And, uh, blah, blah, blah. That's, that's the vibe that I get from him. So, yeah. But he's right. But you're saying like he's saying that he's, he's, if, if you're saying that he's, he, he, he, he sees what they could be because she's so popular in this and that, I mean, isn't that just using her? Yeah, I'm saying, I'm, I'm saying, I agree. I'm just saying, I don't, I just don't know if he's using it. Just in a less large way.

He, yeah, I'm just saying, I'm just not adding the TV component. I'm just saying, oh, I do, I get it. It is an important way of learning it. It's a harsh way of saying it. I think it's, it's, it's just, you know what it reminds me of like when I first started dating when I first come at the closet and like you message with like a super hot guy on whatever site like grinder, or okay, keep it or whatever. And for a moment, you let yourself think like, wow,

could you imagine like if we hit it off like we could wind up dating and then I have this like

be extended like, oh, it could be what if the person's like a celebrity or what if they're like out this while, whatever, you can just sort of have this fantasy like wouldn't this look good, right? And so I, I think that's like actually a pretty natural thing that helps like a lot of people.

“And I kind of like I have my suspicions that that's what's happening with West with Sierra.”

So I have in my mind it's not extended fully to the place of and it's for TV so we can have a plot. So it's weird. Like, I guess it's like it's like a, it's a subtlety. So in my mind, I'm not saying that he's using her, but I do think that he may not be like he still may be treating her like an object or his own self image as opposed to like just like who she is and a person that she is. Okay. So um, she's very important. By the way, I'm so though we got to the heart of this.

It's really important to to know. I mean, yeah, it makes sense. I mean, yeah, it makes sense. I just, you know, I mean, I don't, I think we agreed. I just think we're a trash and so. Yeah, we don't have to agree. I just think he's trash, you know, I don't know. Well, I think we agreed most of the way. I think he mentioned us here, both absolute trash. And I don't think anything they do is sincere. I think it's all for cloud. So, I mean,

“that's what I think is definitely in question. For sure.”

So then we go to, so Amanda, you know, they're still talking about this. And Amanda's like, "Well, I mean, I think if you thought there was a chance like there'd be more work that would need to be done on his end." And so I was like, yeah, you know, like you wouldn't have to be like the

love, like the love would have to be professed. And then like, here's the thing that I'm going to

change. And like, I'm not going to try and put together a set list, the week of your birthday, you know, it doesn't, I don't need a DJ manager, et cetera, et cetera." And Sierra says, but I feel like even if he was in love with me, he would never say it. He never says what he feels, especially in this house. Well, in the history of the Iron West, would you ever, in all the world, ever gave him another shot ever? Because I know for a certain

and absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt that I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever hold on. Let me go inside and go up to his room, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, now hand back outside, give Carl another shot in life. Like, oh, yeah, we know, they're all laugh. And Sierra's like, okay, well, like, when you put it like that, like, I don't know if I'm like,

never, ever. So the doors open, don't, don't, don't, don't. So it's time to get ready to be

that baseline, that baseline of like, let me make this clearer for you. Just think about me and Carl. Are you at the mean Carl, please? Carl, you know what, Lindsay is so needed for this show. She comes back on and it's immediately alive again. And she's not wrapped up in everybody's bullshit. It's not like, oh, I'm in the feeling of this. She's like, yes or no, like, would you ever give this man a chance? That man is a fucking loser. And I'm never going to give him another chance.

Do you feel like that? Okay, then. Say this. Move the season along here. I'm only here every other weekend. Let's get him moving. I've got a baby. Come on now. So they're going to be going to dinner dinner soon. And Sierra goes upstairs and sees West. And she's like, and he's like, oh, are you? She's like, great. Good. She's like, um, okay. So then he's like, do I need to like,

“um, apologize for the drunk background? Like, honestly not because it like was like, was it like invasive?”

Like, it's been mental. You're going to get upset. I mean, a lot of crap ends about it. But like, did I just like make stuff weirder? Was it like fucking cringe and gross and like, y'all? And like, that was the worst thing. And like, you could ever be in like, I don't know. Like, I don't know it. There's like no worse feeling than not knowing if you were cringe. When in doubt, if you're on reality TV and you think you may have done something that was cringe,

it most likely was cringe. So that should help you go. You copy your hairstyle from Benson Boone. You dress like a teenager and you don't take a bath and your whole personality is barrod. You're cringe. Okay. You're cringe. In case you're a little voice inside of you, it's not telling you. Here's the outer voice outside of you telling you. Your cringe. Uh, KJ's face having with there. He's like, you like, my uh, and she's like, yeah, I think it's nice.

You kind of look like you're about to solve 18 holes, loser. I mean, come punch your face. Then Kyle's like, Amanda, am I going to be hot in there? She's like, I don't know. I'm not you. Happy birthday. Okay. You're not me. I don't know if I should wear it's weather or not. Sorry for asking my wife. But then Ben comes out. She's like, that's a nice outfit, Ben.

Like a Kyle can't win. I love work it. You've never looked more Australian. I was like,

he could. He could be wearing a black hat with little teeth on it and the best, but that's fine. So then everyone goes to dinner and West is like checking his walls and bones and stuff like that. So they go this place called Kassaki. They sit down and Lindsay, they're all getting their

process. And Kyle's at this head of the table and then it's the usual. The boys all wind up on

“one side. The girls are all on another side. And they're like, why is that always that to be girls versus boys?”

You know? And see her as a guy like it. So Sierra tries on the little golf hat. KJ is a little golf. And Lindsay's like, um, Carl, I have a question for you. You talked to a baby. Maybe it was my name. He's like, oh, yeah. I caught up with her. Oh, well, well, she texted me all the other day morning. I was like, hey, I'd rough not like crash out the hard. Can confirm. Sierra's like, yeah, confirm. He's like, yeah, and then we ended up going out together. I mean, like, it wasn't a date,

but I kind of felt like a day. Kind of felt like we talked about how much Lindsay hates me the whole time.

So pretty much today. I mean, basically my teeth were on a day, but the rest of my body was just

in a chair about three feet behind them. It was like, oh, so Sierra's like, did you guys go at it night or during the day? The whole during the day, a waffle time, right? Pinky time, right? She told me a little bit about your conversation by the way, oh, what about my conversation? Well, that you were like, go for it. I'm kind of like, whatever. And she thinks that I said,

“you should go for girl. And it goes like, yeah, and I appreciate that. And you're welcome. See,”

I'm nice, everyone. She did say that you were like, hot. I give Carl a reading of two thumbs down, two stars out of five. Bad Uber score. Yeah, but go for it. Thanks a lot, Lindsay. Thanks. And I was like, well, what was the feedback? She said, well, I mean, she paraphrased that. Okay. Well, tell me what you said. Well, I've said any, probably won't have sex with the um, but he's a great conversation last. Amanda goes, you are so close to being nice.

I mean, Lindsay and I weren't sleeping together because of how not stable foundation.

We were on, but then when we first heard dating and having sex, she used to say, it was the best

sex of her life. I said, it was as good as your hugs because your hugs are so good. But before that, I used to get destroyed for being a football. I've probably two more sex. And now I'm like, being more careful. And I get drunk for that. Like, I can't win. Like it's so hard being in the mix. You just can't win when you're Carl. Oh, so Carl's a him and is there a world in which I can join an aunt? I'm depends on how you are the rest of the week. I'm being nice. It's okay,

then you're going to have a sip of my drink. Oh, but he says it in such a serious way because I'm being nice. I'm like, okay, uh, because I was like, by the way, we're on um, uh, as you all know, I'm turning for a marathon. So I'm big on running these days, more so than ever before. I've had a KJ to a running thing this week. And I got there. And I see him and right next to him is wait for it. Wait for it. Wait for it. No, and they were very cute.

And the vibe was really good. Look at me gossiping about relationship with the onions. Min the mix and the mix would KJ know. So they're like, what's the vibe KJ and he says that she's emotionally intelligent and that's like so important, you know. And they escalated quickly and uh, cows like yeah, I want to know how to escalate it quickly because I'm out of the mix. Oh, give you some love from my brother. And KJ is like, we five checked and cows says kids these days,

all vibe check. So they're laughing and they're questioning him on how many times they've seen each other and it's like every other day. And um, you know, he's not counting, but it's every other day. And sick coming out. Do you got your hand out? And Amanda goes Jesse, do you want to give him any advice on moving quickly in a relationship? Well, I would just advise you to take it slow. It's like,

“yeah, that's what I'm doing, bro. What else did you learn Jesse? Uh, and Sierra's like,”

don't admit the truth. And so we have a flashback to the Lexi situation last summer. And then he's like, and also like, don't you see her escalator? And Sierra's like, yeah, please say that part loud. It's like, Jesse's like, don't use Sierra as collateral. Um, West is sitting up straight and taking notes. And so we see West like, oh, shit. Now it's my turn. It's my turn to get in trouble.

I think about to get in trouble real soon. Jesse is like, yeah, and Sierra was never my intention

to use Sierra's collateral. It's like, yeah, but I was collateral. And we see, when they're talking about the collateral, it's because at the reunion, there was Jesse was taking photos with Sierra. And um, let was making Lexi feel like Jesse was using Sierra. It's like, rub it in Lexi's face. If I remember correctly, was that like the just of it, like, you're trying to kind of make Lexi feel bad to be like, well, now I'm with Sierra all the time. And so it sort of made Sierra feel like a prop.

And virtual reality did not help because I wasn't lying this much. Yeah, it's like, yeah, well, it seems like, um, Jesse and Sierra are like taking photos together that look very flirty and commenting on each other's social posts. Like, kind of feels like they're trying to rub it in your face. Like, I mean, yeah. So we cut back and Sierra says, yeah, like you're creating

I'm like sick but he posted it on his story. The only thing I like rubbed on my face is liplighter.

So Amanda is saying, yeah, that's another good piece of advice. By the way, don't talk to the press. West can tell you that, too. And she's like, yeah, West can tell you personally. So of the

“specter of the New York Times article returns. By the way, I think you can talk to us. Like,”

we should be in the talk. Yeah, I'm this again. The New York Times article. I think you can talk to the press about your relationship. Just don't have any illusions after that happens that you can like get back together or something like that. I think the way that West handled it was like, he should have either been like, yeah, I talked to the press because this is what was going on in my mind. And it seemed like a cool thing to do. And it was what it was. That was our relationship.

He could have either stood in it or just not done it in the first place. But of course, West. He

does it. And then he's like, what it really is, which he won't remember. I want to spend a year being a fucking baby about it. Like, I'm being attacked. Wait, wait, wait. Instead of just saying what he did at the end. When he said at the end of the season, it actually made sense. Like, kind of his explanation, and maybe just took him a year to come up with it. I don't know, because obviously, I don't like the guy. But I remember him saying something along the lines of,

like, Sierra, we were supposed to, you know, we were dating and then we were supposed to get together around Christmas. And then you just ghosted me. He wouldn't call me back. He wouldn't text me for two weeks. And I thought you basically dumped me. So when I'm asked, like, what's our relationship? I just got ghosted. So I was saying, like, it didn't work out or whatever. And then Sierra said, well, Christmas is really hard for me because of my family. And that's when I just turn off.

“And that's why I wasn't answering your call. And he was like, well, I didn't know that.”

All that made so much more sense than the whole year of whining and hand-ringing and this and that. And it was like, oh, okay. Like, at least made sense to the audience. Like, I at least got with the whole thing was about, you know. But he's just such an absolute whist. You know, my god, that it took that long. And the fact that they still have to bring it. It's like Amanda, still has to bring it every single time. You know, she's like, let's talk about Lexi. Okay.

Now let's talk about this. Like, oh, my god, Amanda, stop stopping our faces in the past. Ask Bailey if she's flirting or something. Right. And so so best is like, I think I'm going to say one thing, though. I empathize a lot with how our relationships ended. And I did like a lot of interviews. And I was like hands are up. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like a whole different invisible beach ball, like what he's talking. He's like, and I do a lot of interviews. And like,

I just don't think like, I knew any better. But like, it's gross to talk about the relationship publicly. And I don't think I really grasped that until I was on the other side of it. And then when she when Lexi was doing that to Jesse and like, you know me, like, I just, I don't know. I just like want you to, like, know, I like see you way more than I, than I did prior. Look, he's like, wow, full circle moment is what you're saying. Oh, five stars. Five stars. You'll give me five stars

to whisk because I was the one who set this up sort of in a way, not really, but five stars also for me, please. So she's like, you know, like, go back to all those interview things. I don't think you guys realize the interracial aspect that exists in this because I get a lot of blowback that's

very racial, you know, I'm the first black person in this house and then dating publicly and dating

white guy specifically publicly. It's this whole contraption that you guys don't even understand. And you can't empathize. And he's like, yeah, you know, and then the, but when the reunion happened, I was getting smoked and I was being called racist and people were, you know, like, DMing my family and shit for this whole thing. And I was panicking and I didn't know it was going on. And so I thought, well, if I can make things better as long as I'm not saying anything bad about Sierra, it'll be okay,

“but I didn't know when I apologize. And Kyle's saying, like, guys, I think we've covered some”

ground here. I feel like you guys, even though it was wasn't all that long ago, it feels raw. It feels fresh, kind of like my beats to say and maybe do some DJing right now. But to see you guys having fun, buddy buddy last weekend at the, at the end of the day, you get DJing for DJing, right? And I know there's an underlying friendship and mutual respect. It's been tough, but he's like, you know, he, you know, he respect. He's, Kyle's doing this sort of like nice like band-aid moment.

And Sierra's like, you know, and, you know, I operate on the basis of, I feel like I just expected more out of you West. Yeah. And he was like, but if I knew what I knew, if I knew, then what I know now would have been just different. I apologize. So now that the show sort of gets a little bit more serious now or not even serious. It's just more like it's sort of like, it's like not being as reality showy because now they have a pretty a really good conversation about race and interracial

everyone was always like, oh, you let a white man play you out on national TV. And like regardless of

“how she says, regardless of how we feel about each other, it's the way that it looks the entire world.”

And like, yeah, I guess if I could help it, I would, but you can't help you love. You can't help you're attracted to. And he was my friend at one point. And we did have relationship. But I know we do care a lot about each other. And it's just like, it's not just fun and flirting. And I do think we have much deeper relationship than anyone ever, whatever, see. And she's basically like, and she's like, saying, I'm living nervous for this season to air because I know I'm going to

get it all over again. And essentially what she's saying is on top of the usual things that people weigh in on, she has the weight of this being an interracial situation. And like that that just adds a whole other layer on it that, you know, the white people just can't really understand. Yeah. And then KJ adds his sisters go through it a lot and he cried. He starts crying. And he's like, you know, from the guy's perspective, it's like, well, she's just complaining, but it's,

it's really fucked up. And he said, it's not normal. And I don't expect you guys to understand because you aren't in our skin. But even with me coming into the house, being the first black guy, I've added pressure to, like literally the past few weeks. I've just been in my head because I'm thinking, don't fuck it up, you know, because people are going to judge you so harshly. I mean, that's a lot of, that is a lot of crazy pressure to have to deal with. We have to do it so

much self-monitoring and imagine there's so much self-monitoring about trying not to come off as a progressive or angry black man or angry black black woman, which is so unfair. And he said,

“that's why he says, like, you always have to be thinking 20 steps ahead. And Mia's saying, this is”

what this is what we're taught. And, you know, she's saying that, you know, they, she starts talking about like the conversation and that you have to conduct yourself in a certain manner, so you're not seen as a threat. So you're not seen as aggressive or angry or scary and all these connotations that the site is put on on us for so long, even though there's nothing angry about you, there's nothing scary about you, but that's what the world has made us look like. And, and then Kyle actually was like,

you know, my takeaway is that I have a temper and I can just pop off. And I have anger management issues, but when I do that, I'm not thinking 20 steps ahead. I'm thinking in that moment and look, right, he's basically kind of expressing like he has the immense privilege of being a white man who can get angry and know that it's not going to come with an outsized penalty, you know, that could lead to incarceration or worse. So he's having, which is also, by the way, I'm using because then

we go later on, we go to the trailer for the season and we see Kyle popping off. Just once again, leaning into that, leaning into that temper, I was like, there it is, there it is, Kyle. Yeah, having an absolute fucking cow and throwing a drink against the door. Because like, well, we just want to have your support and have your backs and support you guys. And make sure we're doing our best to make you feel loved or whatever. So, you know,

they're like, aren't you happens to be your family? So it's a nice scene and they all have a nice atmosphere. Yeah, lovely scene. Amanda's like, okay, let's go around the table and say, one nice thing about me. Ben, like, oh, God, please no, please, let's not do that again. You want a fuck, Ben. Well, I'm here too to be fair. Ben, five stars, five star fuck. And that was that. And then we got the midseason trailer, which looks like a total

shit show. As is what always happens, because as the summer goes on, they get crazier. So looking

“forward to the second half of the season, really lovely, um, lovely and important discussion at the”

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