#3268 Southern Charm S11E16 Reunion 1: The Empath of Least Resistance

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reunion, and things that we learned or that Craig has so much empathy to give that he could

never be an artist. He has just filled with so much empathy that he needs a special spray,

a magician spray, so that he doesn't absorb any negative energy that may fill the void of all the empathy he has to give out, and we also learned that Austin still can do the old-fashioned awesome things. Despite having two strong years of being not the worst, he comes on this reunion and basically just slush himself. It's the world. And you know, this is, and we tell you every season do not be fooled

by these idiots, because they are all due spags, and they take turns. This year was Craig's turn to get called out all year, but don't think that Austin's not a douchebag, and all of you who fell for his, "Oh, I have a lung. This is girlfriend, and I'm a cat dad." Austin is still at the end of the day. One of the biggest assholes on this show, and don't you forget it, because he won't let you. He will not let that edit.

This is bad at it. It is rising, everyone. Right? Like, this puts a har Scopes like the one thing descending, one thing rising. He is a bad at it rising. Look forward to it next season. Sheep is the one who got out scoffery, because he just sat quiet the whole reunion. And he was in the middle. I don't think Sheep has ever been that far down the sofa. He just was in the middle, beyond Sally. I mean, he was like, beyond Sally. It was like, you

just sort of see the mists and like distant vistas and they're shut out there, and he just was quiet and stayed out of the mess. Hey, it's still like fucked up from last night. You know, he got to New York impartied all my, and he still just looks trashed and just stays out of it. And it's why it's a wise move. So here we go, arrivals to the reunion, and also that you got death taxes and just so

in charge of reunion, and things you can count on, that dad, that dad, that dad, and you're like, here we go. They're all like walking into the building. We're getting a lot of footage of them entering, which means that they don't have too much to talk about on the reunion, because they have to pat it with all the people showing up in, like, here's one to no elevator. Ha, I just pressed up. So now we're gonna make up and Madison is like,

I'm back to finally. Okay, I'm back, I'm back to fat. I'm not gonna have to again.

And then Austin is talking to Rod and Austin has like a Starbucks copy in his hand. He's yeah, I ordered Shep's ass a flat white, ah, I'm sure that's funny to everyone with the flat white ass. Okay, without a flat white ass, but it's not great for the

“rest of us. You know, that's what now anyone who orders that drink is just gonna be”

thinking about Shep's ass, which we have seen on this show many times.

enraged with anger, but I'm looking for it to getting it all hashed out on the table. So the friendships I want, I can save them. I'll save the friendships I want. Don't you worry. Don't you worry? It's me, Vanita. So then, uh, what is getting his make-up winner? And, uh, he's like, yeah, you know, there are certain people in the group that need to be held accountable, but winner really doesn't do much on the show. So he's one of those

people that just got here and is always spouting off about everything. It's like, you know,

you don't really do anything yet, Sarah. Like you just got to the HOA, I don't want to hear it from you. By the way, I got asked to run for my HOA board. What do you think

“of that? I think you should, I thought there's only two people in your HOA, you and”

neighbor, right? Well, that's a separate. We have to have a separate one because we have condos built in a place that didn't have condos. And so one of the laws is that we have to have our own HOA, which is really weird. Technically, I'm the president of that one. Um, I would love it. I would love it. I'm the, I won. I won that vote. I think you should- Which is weird, because there's two of them in one of me. So, uh, I still want the vote.

What the heck? What the heck? I haven't heard it for me. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The idea of you being the president of an HOA with three people in the HOA. But um, no, I think you should totally do it, because I think you would be hilarious as the president. I don't know. You would just be, I'm not sure if I'm enough funny things. You'd be like, I was born and not, but not last night, but maybe you can get the rest as Nancy, you're

alter ego, be like, "Hi, y'all. Hi, everybody. It's H-O-I-E. We're doing it." Well, I've got a house painted, the accepted colors. Maridith, I saw a blue on your house. Don't think I'm not watching you. Okay, that looks good on you at church, but not on our street. Get it off of your house. We're gonna burn it down, okay. Isn't there like a terrible car across the street from you? That like is like annoying if he moved. He moved. Get out.

Good for you. You see, it really does work when you visualize things and um, manifest things. I'm manifested his ass right out of here. So, you know what? Then when we're, yeah, but when I live in LA, I got this guy out and then in LA, guess who moved in? Lambo, which

“I think the wall. So, it's fucked up. Karma's fucked up. I can confirm that. I was at Ronnie's”

house and that Lambo pulled up. It's basically just like frag trying to, like, clear

as to, uh, my God, such a face. Y'all, it's like where is him? You lock one head off and there's another man car that pops up right. Right where that head was. That's, that's exactly how I would say it. So, winner, yeah, it's like there's certain people that need to be held accountable, politely, of course, and only when called upon. Um, yeah, my mom's an anarchist. And one thing that we learned learned is that when there's just this that needs to be had,

use it very quietly and patiently until Andy asks you a question. So, we are going to call out the problematic people, but not too loudly. Mom, but there's not like fighting over dinner. Hey, guys, I should have put some tax in my shoes in my toes. So, that or like my shoes, like the toe part of my shoes. So, if I get like nervous, I can like press down on them and then like I'll stop shaking my foot. Right, guys, God, I have so much

I believe people have to see me nervous. - All right, well, let's play some tense music. It's like... (imitates music) ♪ Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do

(imitates music) - So, Andy likes Craig suit. - And it's time, hey, well, I went to the Southern Charm season 11 reunion. I'm your host, Andy Cohen, guess what?

I'm a dad. Ready to break down an explosive season that had a full blow love triangle and a triangle of dysfunction between bros and how I probably shouldn't say that anymore.

I'm a new Andy, okay, Sally, how you doing? - Oh, good. You, Andy, I'm over here, I'm good.

- All right, Madison, you look starting as always.

Has life with a newborn? - I'm obsessed. - You want more? - Yes. - Anything you wanna know today?

- Do I look like I'm gonna have another, Andy? Listen, I'm gonna have to a hot girl summer because that's the cool thing I'm rival. And maybe next year, we'll get it done. (clears throat)

- Shepie, how's your new house dreamy girl? It's good, Andy. It's about to go under the knife for innovation soon. - And Andy's like, well, the house looks huge in the, Jeff, is your zipper and done?

- 'Cause the girls are gesturing to him like, (laughs) - Yeah, he's like, gosh, awesome, shep. It's like, all right, well, that was cool. I was trying to get a peek, but too bad

and then called it out. Hey, have a need of, love your dress.

“Am I gonna compare to Diana Ross again this season?”

I won't, but I was wondering,

that's perfect, you never miss.

- It's like, wow, look at Austin's bow ties, not the bow tie, grand-gave you. - And he's like, I've worn the bow tie so many times. So many times. Every time I wear this, I hate the fucking guy who gave me

that's not fucking hate him. Hey, Sally, you don't look like the type to hang out in a chicken cube. (laughs) Do you miss chickens at all?

I literally do not miss the chickens at all, but what I do miss is Austin's dick. And he, I'm waving to it right now, there it is. - Oh, and you're very, you're feeling about tonight. He's like, I don't know, it's like a reunion date.

Like, I know, there will be conflict, but it doesn't seem delicious like other years. Smile, wink, I shine. Did you watch this season?

- I lived it, but by the way, just so you know,

the other person who famously would not watch the season back was Jack's. - So I'm not saying that it parallels, but I am actually explicitly saying that. - The other person who constantly

talked about addiction while doing nothing about it. So he could get sympathy from the audience, by the way. - And the next decisions of the narcissist of them. - So he got shocked.

“- Austin, hey, what do you think about Greg.watching season?”

- Well, I understand sometimes you watch it and you see something that makes you reactive, but I think it's interesting how it gets spun into the reality that Greg remembers it, but it's like, wait, wait, like three of us were there.

Okay, right, like we all, we all know, like three, well, actually it's five of you, you count the two cats, cats at here. - I think Greg has a reality distortion. You call Austin victim mentality,

but you exhibit a lot of that too. You're like, you don't understand. It was taken out of context, but we see it. It's on television. - And Charlie's just nodding, she's like,

no, I'm just trying to be decent on camera. Okay, I do think in some certain situations that I've been part of, I do not have the same explanation of it that Greg does. Well, I just call it as I see it,

and especially this year, I was 100% myself, and that's all you can do is be vulnerable. - Yes, Greg, when I look at you streaming at Sally

“in the van, I think what a vulnerable guy.”

- You just pulse out all of the key words that he needs to do. - Well, Greg, do you have a golden night regarding your friendship with Austin, and he's like, well, I'm here to hear everyone out,

like I'm at the end of space in my life where I look for peace now. And in an ideal scenario, we would get back to where we were, I guess. - Have you noticed Greg is doing this like twitching

thing when he talks slightly? He's like, yeah, like, I guess. - Well, Charlie busy giving some pointers on body language. It's time for commercial, it's time for a crap-in-s commercial. - So when there's like,

"Oh, do you have a different understanding "of the word peace than some of us?" Wait, no, when there's your... Oh, yeah, yelling at people is not very peaceful and everyone laughs.

- Okay, yeah, you got what nerd. So Vinnie, Vinnie is like, and the show has begun ladies. Oh, the show has begun. Ladies and gentlemen.

So Andy's like, "Aston, what's your goal for tonight?" He's like, "Well, it's super disappointing "to hear things that were said throughout the season "and I cannot believe someone who claims to be "a very good close friend of mine

"is saying such horrible things about me "and my cats, has I got that?"

“So we have part of ways and that's what needs to happen.”

But some shit does need to be flushed out. No doubt. I'm like, I'll tell you what needs to be flushed out is all the saliva that seems to gather in your mouth and spewing everyone.

How about a suction straw like in the dentists? - Yeah. All right, well, let's see where the night takes as you guys are really blowing your load early.

Okay, we're attacking Craig first thing.

Let me get to a segment, okay? Holy moly, hey moly, hey. Last year you played, are you funny on this year? You're saying beautifully, by the way. So I love hearing you saying, "Wow, what a voice."

Well, can you believe that we are somehow still in the pillows? - Hey, Rodrigo. - 'Cause they won't even let him not, they won't even let him finish her loads and they're like, "Fuck Craig, fuck Craig."

- Which is so hilarious, they're all ready to go, ready to rip 'em apart. - Hey, Rodrigo, your engagement party was beautiful. Interesting that the gay guy is going to be the first gentleman in the group to be to tie the knot.

He's like, yeah, it's been 12 years, Andy, but that's just what it is, girlfriend. All right, and hi, Charlie, wow, still more people, and I hate that we're going out of order on the sofa, just can't keep track on the very thing.

Okay, it's Charlie's birthday, she turned 28.

- Just like, it's intimidating for sure. So I'll keep staring at me and I'm just really scared. I just want to hop behind this pillow.

- You got this, wow, wait, it's your first time,

who gave you your best advice? He's like, "Well, my mama." And after that, I would say sheppin' Austin, you know, speak when you have the opportunity,

“don't wait, and if you have to wait, say it then.”

- All right, well, it wasn't really listening. This is easy. - Thankfully, 'cause that really didn't make any sense. - So, well, you know, my mama said, here's something I'll learn out of the anarchist playbook,

which is, when you see in justice, you go to each and every one of your states in Charleston and France, and you find a spoon, and you bang on a pan, and make sure the world hears you. - This season, Charleston was hit with a quadruple dose,

a bachelor energy, when Craig Shepp, winner, and eventually Austin, we're all single at the same time. - Molly, is it a net positive or negative with a women of Charleston? Have these three back at the sickle seat?

By the way, I love how you immediately

takes a winner out of the equation.

He's like, "Oh, so much bachelor energy. "There were four guys who were single. "Molly, what's it like when these three guys are single?" - Well, it was positive for me, and they, you. - The need is like, "Oh, I went to the deli.

"It was, I found three bottles of you in the fridge, right?" - The need is like, yeah, I'll say negative. - Well, you know, it's not back on down the way, used to be though, 'cause the three of us used to walk to town, like we used to go down King Street,

and we would just like terrorize people with, you know, our Tommy Bahamas shirts, our baseball caps, are really long armpit there. But it's not like that now, Andy. - Is it funny how that's where we were like,

and then later on I'm gonna vilanize Sally for doing the same thing. So then Andy's like, "Well, Rodrigo, "you called Charleston temptation to Ireland, "and then you said, "Come a girlfriend.

"You think any of these gentlemen are ready "to resist the temptation and settle down?" - He's like, "Well, really looking at it. "By the way, Rodrigo was he drunk. "I felt like he was slurring the entire time."

He was like, "Well, he said I'm some podcast, "cause I said that last, I said that in some episode, "and people are like, "You can't say that. "It's a speech and a bad event."

- Well, first of all, he does it.

I do, I mean, I have one.

“But second, I think he's drunk, I'm sorry, I don't care.”

I don't care what anybody says. - I still think he's drunk. - If it's a speech and a bad event, well, I will hold space for it. If it's not-- - You can have two,

and you can be two things can be true. That's what I'm saying. Well, that's fine, you know, if he sounds drunk, because of the speech and bad event, then that explains it. So, he's like, well, really looking at it,

I think it would be Whitney and Craig. I think Austin is newly single. Chef is exploring. I Lord knows that Dick gets in trouble, left right in sideways, am I right?

And then Austin, he's like, "That Dick don't stop exploring!" Austin keeps on trying out, like, gay sass, and it's so funny to me, 'cause he already did me the flat white thing,

like, "I ordered chaps ass, flat white, am I right?" Go, friend. That was during this. That Dick don't stop exploring, huh? (laughing)

Good, a little monkey to follow around my dick with a backpack on 'cause it's door of the explorer. Am I right, Andy? (laughing) (laughing)

Right? The ladies, we got a lot of audience comments that were perplexed. None of you went for a win. Wow, Lucy from Keith said,

"Winner is the most eligible, smallest, most successful non-toxic guy on the show, Madison, what's your opinion?" Well, as we all know, non-toxic is disgusting. So I think that kind of explains that,

'cause you say that, he's pretty much just like a stone. Why would you have been dating? I mean, I'm sorry, I did you mean to say, "Badah?" (laughing) We're just not into that.

I've known Winner for a long time, and I tell the girls, especially Winner,

“you should go after Winner, and then Winner says,”

"Oh, Winner, no, you meant it, you meant it, you meant it, you meant it, you meant it, you meant it, you meant it!" So, I mean, it was like, well, because when I tried to have Rodrigo as my backup, he was like, "Oh, Winner, what about Charlie?"

And I was like, "Oh, you're supposed to be team-me, not team Charlie." What is this, like the 1800s? People do pick their own partners now. Like, why did you not offer a dowry like to win?

Like, what's going on? Why did you not announce me at the ball? You announced the long lady, and you didn't announce it, okay, it's like, "What, who do you think that's a terrible excuse?"

- And then we find out that Vinita is friends with Winner's mom. I love Vinita just being friends with everybody's mom, 'cause what's she friends with JT's mom, too, or something?

- Yeah, really? - She might have had that girl. She's definitely like a, like, friends with the mom, sort of girl, which I think, I say that actually, that's a compliment, like I love that energy. She just is friends with everyone's mom.

- I mean, that's how I am, too. - So, Andy says, "Wed, did you know that Vinita felt that way?"

And she's like, "Are you plashing?"

And he goes, "Yeah, a little."

“I mean, I just didn't know this was coming.”

- Wow, "Wed, Vinita and Winner, those." - Vinita stopped trying to make me believe that you like Winner. You can't, Vinita tries it every season, like, "Uh, JT, "I liked it, Carl, I like Carl."

- I like Carl. - I'm gonna say it's like Carl. - That's the thing. Come on, Carl. - Yeah, Winner's like, "Yeah, did not know

"I had a question, Winner. "Do you, like, brandsy know and do, like, eating it on a sofa?" Because that will inform us on which way this direction, this relationship is going. - So, Andy is like, "Satly, I'm watching at his live."

You said, "You really don't know, Winner yet." And you then said, "Who you would you said is opposite of you?" And I didn't really understand it, but now I kind of do. What do you think? - Yeah, she gave a shady answer.

Basically, they said, "How come, none of the girls "are trying to hook up with, Winner?" And Sally said, "Well, I don't think anybody "really has gotten to know, Winner yet." And simulating that he's a real asshole,

“and they just haven't shown it on the show yet,”

which left us believing that there was going to be some part of the show where he was going to become a monster,

like the rest of the guys, and they never came,

so it was kind of like a false spoiler, and so he's calling it, Sally out. - Yeah, which is good because it actually, like we literally spent the entire season, like saying things like, "Well, Winner seems really nice,

"but we know the other shoe's going to drop. "We know he's an asshole because Sally said something." So she's like, "Well, I didn't mind it like that." And he's like, "Well, it did come off poorly "if I can offer my opinion."

And she's like, "Well, I love my relationship with Winner, "but he talks a little bit too much about himself for me." Like, you're pining after Austin, and this is your issue with Winner. I don't understand that.

Don't they all talk about themselves extensively? - Winner's like, "Yeah, I've never noticed." Yeah, but all the guys are sitting here talking about themselves all the time. That's all the guys on here, dude.

You know, you talk about them all the time.

You're at least they talk about themselves.

“You literally talk about boys the entire time.”

You're like, "I'm a robot person who does, "I'm a robot technician who has tickets, "but I love boys." It's like your old personality. Sound is like, "Well, I want to know what you ladies

"are looking for in a man. "I mean, if none of you will go for "washed up alcohol," at least 10 years your senior. "What are you looking for?" - Sally, it takes her with Tom Chios.

Everything this guy has you. - The pointing to Austin and they're like, "Wow!" She's like, "Yeah, I almost didn't. "You know, I didn't go with the dinners." And I say, "Would you like something this morning?"

I say, "I had grand slam with Austin." (laughs) Moon over Miami and make sure the Miami is Austin, the moon is me, I'm over him, yes. And in the sexual way, of course.

And so Craig is like, she's like, "I just, my biggest thing is personality." I was like, "When you're pointing with your thumb, "did you mean to pointed at Austin in that moment "was there someone else in the room

"that was intended for because you said personality "and I'm just connecting the dots here?" - Well, she did say she wants Austin's personality in my body and then somehow we were both offended. - Which was Craig's way to be like,

but he's ugly. And so, it was Sally's way to be like he's ugly. - Well, Sally's like, wow, - I couldn't even tell him that Craig's looks and Austin's personality.

We'd have a great, the shitty person and Austin's a shitty looking person. So, God, we got to make some. - Which, like, yeah, that would be nice, but like, Craig bringing that up in that moment

was his way of kind of like popping the bubble because Austin was feeling himself. He was like, he was like, "Pretending to smile "and he put his hands below his face." He was like, "Hmm, who me?"

He was like, "Jolly, you and Craig did it this season. "What was he like as a shooter?" He was like, "Oh, he was great, love this seats." "No, that's not what that means, "but whatever," and Craig's like,

and then this whole world got involved in a one-o-way, which is also from the Jack's Playbook. - Yes, everybody else did it. It wasn't you screaming at women. - Probably, yeah.

- Being gymnast, it was them making you do it. So Sally's like, "I hate that I'm blind "for y'all not being together because that's bullshit." - No, 'cause a whole time you were like, Charlie's talking to other boys.

- Well, she was talking to other boys. - But she promised she wasn't talking to anyone else. When we were together and Charlie's like, "I did not, there was a time when you were like, "you know, should I get back on Raya?"

And then I was like, "Yeah, I'm on Raya." Yeah, but that's like when we were talking during the season, I was led to believe that you should. I was not talking to anyone else during the time that I was talking to you at the oyster place.

There wasn't anyone else at the oyster place. That's what I was saying. I can't throw my voice like I've been drunk with. So when I was talking to you, I was only talking to you. But the horrible things that Sally was saying,

like, you were looking out for me,

and like, we talked about that. And while it made, Craig's best he's saying, like, "I didn't listen to you, Sally." And I should have listened to you. - Yes, he's now Craig is making it

because Charlie dumped him. Now Craig's gonna make it like, "Oh, Charlie was cheating on me the whole time." She didn't even like me.

She was always like fucking random guys.

He's such a fucking pig. Of course he's gonna do that. And they didn't show in this, but in the preview last week, they showed him saying something like this. Like, yeah, she was talking to other guys all the time

and Charlie goes, "We went on two dates." - Craig, yeah. - And I wonder why they cut that. - And there's probably like an element of this. That's like, I was made to leave the bad guy

because I rejected Sally and then I threw her under the bus. But now this is his way of kind of saying, like, Charlie was the one who let me to do that.

“I kind of feel like that's an underlying current in this, right?”

Like, "Oh, I was listening to Charlie, "and I should listen to you, Sally, "and the only reason why I was mean to you, Sally, "was because I was listening to Charlie." That's kind of what he's saying here.

So Andy's like, "This season, Molly, "proved once again, that her musical talent "are limitless so when Sally started "flapping her lips about her nip tuck." Molly said, "Told Sally, to change her tune,

"but that is not the lady's friendship "for meeting new Sarah." I was like, "You're somehow weaving in musical puns "and like, labor puns." (laughing)

- So Bobby. - I was like, "When the watch would, "when the watch would happen, staff just is tired." And they're like, "Well, she's slapping her lips "of a drum boaning at you, phoning.

"When all of a sudden a chicken from Lincoln "came around the corner and trained its way "all the way down the tracks of a bus stop." - Look what? - You'll have drunk over there.

- We're rest to take a beat when things go flat.

“And Sally had some sharp things to say about Molly.”

(laughing) - The giant one. - So I also like to think, "Well, Molly proved that, you know, "when Sally started slapping her lips

"and then Molly goes, "about my lips." - It's like, "Yeah, Sally, that's the, "that's the, yeah, Molly, that's like the point." - Molly. - So the point is, Molly has a new guy.

And sounds like a winner, it's 56, she's 38. I was like, "Who is it, Whitney?" 'Cause they're like, "He's a musician, "and he's a great guitarist." - Oh, it's just what it means.

- It's what it means. - Have you fully conquered your stage fright? - Asked no one in the audience. Molly's like, "Well, no, but it's gotten immensely better "and I actually asked Austin and Craig

"if they would book me a gig at, by the way, by the way." And now I do two days a month, had a little bar and he's like, "Wow, Molly, "and things between you and Sally went south." South, get it, ha.

- Left my vagina. - That was the point. - It was a real low note. - What were you thinking when you heard that Sally was gossiping about your vagina?

And of course, we all knew when this happened during the season that this would be a priority, talking point in the reunion in the first 15 minutes, of course. - So like, well, it was like literally the one thing that like I did that I didn't want to tell the world.

So like, I was pretty pissed about it

and I never told her about it,

so I don't even know where she got it. - Well, the need of viewers had a lot to say about you sharing Molly's surgery

“when you should have been keeping your lips shut.”

Like my vagina lips. That was the point, okay. One battle from after another said, exposing someone who's supposed to be your friend and such and into the way is disgusting.

You know, it's like, yes, it was disgusting. When Molly approached me the first time, the first thing I did was apologize for it and I told her that she had every right and still has every right to be mad at me for it.

And I made sure to apologize again and again. I never should have done it. And Molly's like, yeah, she apologized a lot and I've gotten like a lot of flowers out of it. And what was great is that she would apologize

and there wasn't a butt after the apology. It's like cut to correct me like, huh? That's like an improper sentence. Sally, did you apologize? And so I was like, well, I mean, I apologize

for bringing it to the group, but I didn't really want the information

about the vagina in the first place.

So why would I apologize for that? - Love a problem with Sally is like, she's just so easy to talk to, you know, but then she tells everyone everything. - And Molly's like, yeah, but that's something so wild.

You should know not to repeat it. And by the way, Sally's saying, I didn't want this information in the first place. So therefore I spread to other people who probably also didn't want it, but why not?

(laughing) Sally's like, you know, there's a camera in my face and Vanita's telling me about your vagina and camera's office, it's not a secret. It's so easy.

- Charlie, do you feel like you can dress Sally with your info and have you ever had anything done to your vagina that you'd like to share? Just like what I do. And if I tell her, please do not share this,

she will take it to the grave. If I forget to, she'll announce it from the top of Mount Everest.

I should have to say that all the time, though, by the way.

- Well, Molly is south like you and Vanita and Sally are all good. Now you trust some both with your vagina. Molly is like, well, I don't know if trust is 100% back, but like, we're a good place, you know? - All right, we're done now, Molly.

Not talking to the rest of the reunion, you can go home now, bye. - Yeah, you buy 'em, okay, you found me by, okay. So Madison, let's talk about you. What's the difference about mother at this time

versus 13 years ago, just other than the fact that you've got a hot charisma free man? God, I want that man. What a hot piece of ass that man is. What, but, okay, who am I talking to?

Can we get bread out here to sit on my lap? - Well, obviously the path 13 years, back then I was a single mother. And in 13 years, there have been huge advances in corn production.

So, you know, now my new baby, he's not only born for corn, but she's born for so many new, interesting versions of corn. So, it's a really honor. I'm living my best life.

- So she talks about how the baby looks like her dad, which is really touching and I'm bored. So Andy is like, what is on Instagram, the post of Sally and Austin out with you and Brett, the baby?

What was it like to hang out with, Teddy? Was the baby smarter than Austin and Sally, but together already? Go ahead, tell us. - Hey, it was so much fun.

And at first, I thought that baby just wouldn't stop crying,

but then I realized just a laugh that Austin had spat on its face by accident, so it was a lovely evening for all of us. - It was like the tail of superiors and two non-periors. We had the race with the baby to see who could have

more bottles of quickest. - So, you know, Andy is like, "Well, Austin, are you gonna give Sally a baby?" She's like, yeah, that would be real cute. I'm really Austin, let's go in the back right now.

She's like, well, Sally, no. Have a wonderful relationship. We've hung out all sorts of times. And yeah, they're been in some junky makeups. And Rod's like, "So, no, sleepovers, girlfriend."

She's like, "No, we all, well, we had a sleepover." Yeah, it was all very innocent, and we were watching TV and we woke up in who I can't see what happened next.

“- What did you watch on TV and how did crazy rotations end?”

That's a big one this year. - And I said, "We were watching hated rivalry." And I was like, "Oh my God, that's right, we did. We did Andy, we did." - And he's like, "Wait, wait."

Sorry, I was sort of asleep. Isn't that a reunion? I'm awake now. - What is that? - Why?

What's that about? Molly tells him, "It's a closeted gay hockey player "so with lots of gay sex." And Craig's like, "Wait, he the rivalry "is supposed to be me in Austin's story."

- Uh, no. Jack and Jack is at home like, "How dare you? "How dare you, Craig?" So what nerds like, "Oh God, what are we, "what's going on over here?"

And Matt's like, "You guys are dumb as fuck. "If you think you're just gonna sit here "and tell us the y'all, haven't had sex." And I was like, "No, we're not fucking watching hated rivalry." So sensational.

When I got that smoothie, that purple thin half-filled smoothie, wow, wow. That was amazing. - I'm so, they're like, "So are you guys fucking? "Cats are now."

And winners, like, "Yeah, did you go all the way?

“"Like, what are we, why are we asking them like that?”

"Well, what are we in great school?" And Matt is like, "You guys are dumb as fuck. "If you think you're gonna sit here and tell us "you've not fucked." And he's like, "We're not fucking."

- And he's like, "Sally, have you?" And I've, have you in Austin been intimate? He's like, "Sally goes, "Well, Austin." He's like, "Sally, help me out." I mean, making out his anti-maiden.

I don't know. You, you, you. - All right, all right, all right. - All it goes. - I think Sally would tell us if they had had sex

and they'd just cut to Sally going, "Hmmm." (humming) - God, that's the God's. - God's. - Guys, not doing this big thing in secret that you all think that we're doing,

even though it is exactly what I said about Taylor, a few seasons ago, but we're not. This time I'm not lying. I'm not covering up something. - Yeah, we've heard the sleepover with no sex before us,

or exactly, yeah.

“- Well, I don't understand, is why you're being weird about it?”

You didn't cheat on Audrey, and he's a 'cause I said a clear boundary of what we're not gonna do this because it felt disrespectful to Audrey, and I'm a good guy, and I respect women.

So I'm not gonna brag about the woman I'm fucking, when Audrey could be watching this show, even though I'm fucking Sally, do you wanna stand? I'm a good guy.

- Andy, it's called a good edit. I'm working on it, and he's like,

"Yeah, but we're never eat months, Audrey."

And there's nothing to be ashamed about. You're both single. I know the reason to it.

So you're fucking. - They're fucking. - They're fucking, they're fucking, okay? She goes, "When I'm out, she caught herself a baby, "she's fucking him."

- So it's like, "There's been more than kiss, "and I'll tell you that." - Well, it's like stop lying. "Hey, well, I'm trying to be more of a lighty day, man." - And crazy, if you did sleep together,

why would it be bad?

Meanwhile, Craig will be the first one to be like,

"You guys were sleeping together. "If you were like a real adult, "you wouldn't be sleeping in Sally, if she's chaos." I wouldn't see it as a big deal. - Yeah, but I have thought of it as a big deal.

So have not that, have not that then. - Well, I think Sally just said, "You guys have done more." - Oh, so you're embarrassed? Is that what you're saying?

You're embarrassed to Sally? - I mean, I wouldn't mind me. You're embarrassed to have her. Just say you're embarrassed, it's not embarrassed. - Well, you're red as a beat.

- No, like, "Uh-oh." - Honestly, fuck y'all, I'm a cat dad. How could you do this to me? - Well, fuck y'all, because you're lying. - It's like, "Okay, look, I'm not.

"Okay, we're not fucking, okay?" And he's like, "Well, but Sally's giving me something totally different "than what you're giving me with her eyes." And video is like, "She's obsessed with Austin.

“"We don't get it, but that's why she's giving Google the eyes."”

- Oh, no, I'm not obsessed with Austin. Like, your hand is literally on his dick right now. Oh, you. No, but in a cute way, that's why I say "Google the eyes." - Ugh.

- Well, I've gone out with Austin. I've seen y'all talk, I've seen Austin talk to other girls and leave with other girls and have, I've just totally been fine with it. I'm only like, "Well, you do get upset about it."

Since, "Well, no, I mean, I don't love it, "but I'm not banging on this door." Like, "Why are you with another bitch?" You know, I just call them a girlfriend and I say, "Well, it's with another bitch."

It's a different, it's different. I don't have a restraining order this time. - Yeah, I don't bang on his door and say, "Why are you with another bitch? "I use the doorbell like a gentle lady."

♪ Mushes, here comes one right now ♪ - So Rodby goes like Madison. Why are they lying? - Mm-hmm, no. - So Austin goes, "Look, I do my thing."

Sally does her thing and that's the way we like it. - Yeah, but Sally was very sweet. Seeing you with your niece seems like all this guy and thinking about starting your own family. We're in Austin, do you back in?

- It's like just one Sally thought it was gonna be a different story. Like a different line of questioning. It's like, you want sort of family with Austin. So she's like, "Well, it's just about fun and the rock guy

"and obviously I have problems doing that." - Well, and your therapist said,

“"If you want to be a wife, act like a wife.”

"Your response was, why would I act like a wife? "If I'm not a wife, Madison does Sally need to act like a wife "to become a wife, let's see what Madison will predictably say." - Yes. (laughs)

- Well, to her credit, she said she was an awesome fiance. She was, "I would act like a wife "if I was in a relationship, I'm a very good girlfriend." - Look, I'm just basing myself in conversations that Austin and I have had,

and he even said that you were like a little more tanked down and if you were just a little bit more tanked down and didn't run the streets, it weren't just a slutty mongrel that on the streets of Charleston

that he would look at you in a different life than just like a hookup. - You know, I was talking to Austin and he literally told me, "Hey, Madison, why am I going by a cow "if I get free milk?

"Why, why would I do that?" You know, and I don't even drink milk anymore. I like to milk my cereal, and I said, "What are you fucking pussy?" "I was a good conversation."

- And then I said, "Why would you get milk

"from such a slutty cow in the first place?"

And he said, "I don't know." - Do you know how many people have had that cow's, had their hand, cow's hudders? And he said, "I know, I'm a mong cow." - I said, "It doesn't matter

"that your glass has been passed around "is far more than anything else. "If that cow's been passed around, that's the real problem." - Yeah, so gross. And Sally is like, "Well, it's not that I'm out there

"hooking up with people I'm just having "a good time because why am I running to streets like that? "I just meant like, "You're a bar rat, and a slut." - And she-- - By the way, this is all so fucked up.

This is the whole thing of life. - This is beyond fucked up, because he is the biggest horror in town. And he's like, "Well, if she wants me to like her "and be her girlfriend, then she needs to stop being so slut."

He's like, "Why would I want to date "the town bicycle?" Is what he's saying?

“And that's what your mom tells you in the South growing up,”

you know? - Yeah. - And she's just so gross that we're in 2026, and people are still talking like this, when literally Austin is the same way. Like, why are the guys allowed to do it,

but the women do it?

And it's like, you're never, you know, no one will ever--

- Sally, you're-- - Sally literally, she literally just said, "I sit there "and watch Austin take all these girls home." And I don't have a problem with it. In playing, he's taking home a bunch of girls,

and the fact that they're like, "Yeah, well, you know, "she's just up and down these streets, you know? "She's just a bar rat, she's just getting drunk "and throw in herself at men." Like, you know, and that therapist advice,

like, if you want to be a wife, act like a wife,

I understand the idea of like,

“if you want to get into serious relationship,”

you have to start looking for different things, and you do have to sort of, you know, not conduct yourself or hold yourself differently, but you have to sort of go into dating with a little bit more intentionality

than you would if you're just like partying and having fun. But the way they're talking is kind of like, "Hey, she's just like a slutty disaster, "but don't worry, once she gets into a relationship, "she will take care of all her men's needs

"at all times because that is the role "that she needs to ascend to." I'm just like, this just feels all just so... (laughs) - So Southern charm, it's like,

- It's just so wrong. - It's just like, you know? - You're okay. - We can draw the Patriarchy tonight at nine.

- You know, that's always so bad.

And then just the fact that they're ragging on Sally so hard while claiming they're not, and Sally's just sitting there like, "What? "What?"

- And still like, begging for Austin by the end of this, is like, "Oh, yeah, I guess I'm not actually back." - Austin thinks he's softening the blow by saying, "I didn't mean you're running the streets. "I just said that you're a bar rat."

It's like, "Oh, oh, well now that you put it that way "that I'm a bar rat, I guess it's okay. "I understand." - The man who literally just opened a bar to fuck more 20 worlds, I mean, seriously.

- So Madison's like, "Well, okay, wait a minute.

“"Did you not have this conversation with me about Sally?”

"Cause Sally, Sally and I also had a conversation "where she was like, "I don't understand Austin. "Why didn't you like it me?" - He's like, "But it's like the accumulation of like, "I don't know, like, dicks.

"Like they just pile up outside or door. "It's like it's snowing dicks. "I like shovel the dicks off your walk.

"I can't even get to my car.

"You want to see it?" - Austin just said, "Just speak. "It's hot standing so much." And Sally's like, "I don't go out when I'm in a relationship. "I'm single when I'm in a relationship.

"I swear, I'm a good girl. "I'll make you food. "I'll make your bed. "I'll do your laundry. "I'll do whatever you need me to do.

"Don't you worry. "I can act like that." - When she was saying that, I was like, "No. "I'll do your laundry. "I'll cook for you."

- It's like, "Oh my God. "Stop it. "Just stop it. "You're making me crazy. "It's so gross."

So Madison's like, "But, you know, "he's saying seven days a week, "that's just not appealing to him." She was, "Well, you don't even see me "from Monday to Friday 'cause I'm cooking dinner

"so my house."

And he's like, "That is not happening.

"Come on." - So Mandy. And she's like, "Are you still working?" And we see photos of her, like, working at her, like, very impressive job.

You know, it's like, "Oh yeah, I remember, "she is a three-dimensional person." And then, like, "Wow, she works. "Wow, she's professional." Yeah, but she still goes out and Austin really does

himself no favors by saying, "Yeah, you go out. "You have your fun. "You sleep with whoever. "I don't care. "But there is a body count of a lot of people

"that I know, so it's a body count." (laughs) He's like, "And he comes to defend." - When he said that there's a body count, "What the fuck, you're Austin."

- And you are so disgusting. You are syphilis. - What are you talking about? - It was so shitty. And Andy's like, "I excuse me,

"but I can start on the body count with you." He's like, "Oh yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure." And Bob ran by the way on the Bravo Body count is not small. He was like, "No, no, no.

"And I'm not going to be bullied in a wanted date Sally." - Well, that's fine. You can say just because you guys want me to be with Sally, I don't have to be with Sally, but of course everyone believes that you are with Sally

and that's the issue here. - The thing is, you're fucking Sally, still. And then you're calling her a slut at the same time. It's fucking disgusting behavior. And it's like you won't be bullied

into wanting to date Sally,

“but you're gonna bully Sally for dating you, you know?”

It's just gross. And then he's like, "But I'm not bullying you. "I'm just saying Sally's allowed to do what Sally wants "to do." And he goes, "Yeah, and she calls me and tells me."

So go on girl, I'm good girlfriend. - Rob's like, "Yeah." And Rob just goes, "Yeah, you're just like, "Stay fucked by these." 'Cause like, that dick don't stop.

Am I right, girlfriend? - That dick don't stop. - Sasha, you stay. So then, Craig is like, "To complete the question, "the girl you were looking for,

"if it's a girl who's living a very single life, "which we're all saying is fine or are you gonna try "to find someone who's like staying in or whatever." - She's not looking for anybody who's keeping face. - And Andy's like, "Well, she has a great job.

"She's the catch of her lifetime." And I was like, "Yeah, once again, "everywhere it is, everyone's saying, "awesome ditch Sally." It's now a awesome, the victim of peer pressure, right?

It's like, "Oh, poor Austin." - Yeah. - So I was like, "No, I was asking you to date me. "Okay, but if you did, you'd be fine. "If you were close with me, ironed."

- Madison says, "We're a tad of my math. "I told Austin, if he made Sally his girlfriend, "she'd be my loyal girlfriend." - Yeah, I'll do your laundry, I'll cook your food. I'll wait about the door for you to come home.

Oh, God, maybe I'll just do two of 'em for my man. - And he's like, "Do you like dating older gay guys?" (laughing) - No, I don't.

I gotta pay. This is ridiculous.

“Jeez, we're talking about losers for two hours.”

I gotta pay just to have something aggressive on this stage.

- So they go to break when they come back before they come back. Andy's looking at Craig's bracelet, he's like, "Let's do a bracelet." He's like, "Um, this is the Greek evil eye

"that was supposed to prevent evil energy from coming my way." And then I wore an empath spray that a magician made at Applebee's, he came from table to table, and he like made my straw disappear and then he gave me a little spray and said,

"This is empath spray and it was in Nashville "because I give so much of my energy out "that he was worried I would absorb negative energy." - God. - You should spray that in your mouth,

'cause that's crazy. - What a loser. - Yeah, I got empaths, Ray. I protected myself with a Greek evil eye and empaths Ray from a magician.

- My God, now I can protect evil feelings

from coming over and taking over my body. And on top of that, your card is the three of diamonds. - Craig's not doing magician stuff.

“You didn't learn anything from that damn spray.”

- Welcome back, the thing that shocked Austin more than his slow-motion breakup with Audrey might have been his decision to become a devoted cat dead. Oh yeah, cat dead, cat dead.

That's the literally perfect creatures. - He says that, but I don't know, I'm just like laughing at you saying it because it's such an awesome thing to say. - Or a perfect creatures. - And he's like, well, you see a drug on women sometimes,

has reasoned your cat's helped you? A witness like, oh, you mean the most uncommitted animal you could have in a house, hashtag, and orcason. And I was like, that's facts, 'cause I got cats because I could leave town.

I got two, and that was a good advice from you, Craig. - Yeah, I'm a lot of cat wisdom to pervay. You've a lot of protecting me. - One time I got a cat spray and I've known everything about cats ever since then.

- Was it from Magician? - That was from a cat, it smelled. - That ain't something to me now. - In short, cat didn't just pee on you. - No, I'm pretty sure it was a cat magician.

You look hard, I had. - All right, well, we've talked about Audrey's, so let's get in there a little bit more. Okay, you were questioning your relationship all season. Do you from Bagface said, did you notice

that when Austin was talking about their relationship, he only referenced himself? - Well, it was one of the relationship, God. - And him from that said, Austin's begging her drive to him, nope, nope, and nope.

First off, we did go back and forth.

As in, I drove down my driveway, and she drove from Charlotte to here, and that was like meeting halfway. I think that's pretty reasonable. But she wants to come to me because I have a house,

just a roommate, and she's like, gosh, you did like her apartment. You hate, I mean, you didn't like her apartment. It was awful, the roommate was terrible. You hated every single second of it.

It's like, yeah, hit her house. Okay, and Craig said you were stuck on a happy. That's wrong. I was not unhappy. I just didn't know where he got that from,

and you and I don't have those conversations that you maybe think we do, but you literally thought her name was Audrey, so you can't even weigh in on this. - Well, I only met her four times,

there's not enough time to learn someone's name. I didn't have empath spray back then. (laughs) - Well, for you to say, I was telling everyone I was unhappy, Audrey and I both were like, what the fuck?

- Yeah, but it came from my analysis of the situation. I've been sprayed by cats and pets and analysis people, and when he said he wasn't gonna drive to Charlotte anymore, I feel like he was stuck in this relationship, and maybe the delivery was terrible,

but my analysis, I stand by analysis, way. (laughs) - From a magician in Nashville. (laughs) - Mess, sorry, and do you have something to say?

- Thank you, medicine. - We go to a lot of response about your conversation with Audrey on the beach, and frinking from science as at least she's keeping it with a hundred with Audrey, and math and it's like,

yeah, I was keeping it 100, okay? And I felt like she was so kind, and she needs you now. She needs you to know that someone's a beta, and that another beta was after her beta, and she needs us an alpha to go back to her own city.

And I was like, hey, take a look around, be aware, because she might take your man,

“'cause that's what women do, especially when there's lots”

in the streets. - I told her, "Sally I'm not taking your man, and here we are." - Which is not a terrible point, and Austin's like, "Well, which shitty in Audrey was like, what the fuck?"

- Yeah, so now you're fucking Sally. Can we just give Madison the credit that she is due? - Thank you. - Rod, do things Sally put a wedge between Austin and Audrey, and he's like, yeah, I mean, listen,

you know, I love you, but I'm like, clearly, I was like, girlfriend, tone it down, step off the curb,

But like, I felt so bad for her, 'cause she was like, clearly hurt. I'm like, looking at the season where we end up, like, she's gonna even be more hurt, even more hurt. (laughing)

- The size, Andy is like, what is he looking for?

- He's always doing that, he has always looking.

- It's like constantly like looking below his glasses, like I can see it if I just look far enough below my glasses. - It's like he just bought a $20 bill down on the ground and hopes no one sees it first. - Yeah.

- He's like, I'm gonna get that one, no one's looking.

“- And he's like, did Audrey ever want to confront Sally?”

- Yes. - And when the winners are, oh, give us those tickets, my right every one and I five. - And Austin's like, well, guess what? I stopped, 'cause Sally would have been open,

but Sally would have barely had been open to it. And Madison's like, wow, I'm shot, she didn't do that and out of that bar, 'cause I want to know what that conversation was like. - And Austin says, well, I don't really remember

but it was for sure, has it been something about Sally. - You don't remember, really, getting told off at that bar when you were begging her not to do it on camera. You don't remember? - So Audrey had a lot to say about this

and she submitted a video, which we're gonna play right now. - And he looks, and they're like, are you for real? And he's like, "Just joking." (laughing)

Audrey wasn't even charismatic enough to make it do a clip on the reunion. - She did send this email, which said, "Thanks for inviting me to make a video." But unfortunately, my bitch roommate didn't pay

for internet, so I can't email it to you. - So are you stolen touch with her? And he's like, "Well, we've spoken a couple of times "and she's not pleased about the things she's seen." You know, 'cause she's been set things.

“And I met up with her when the trailer was released”

and we hung out, and she happens with us. That was nice. You know what's, it was happy. She was being so cool, but then, you know, now she's not pleased, 'cause she saw the show.

And she was like, "I've been made to look like a fool." - Well, we could have told you that would have happened even without the show. - You could have watched the other 10 seasons of this show. Or nine seasons or whatever.

I'm kind of seeing who you were dating. I mean, do your research. - Yeah, it's like crazy. You think she was trying to win you back? And Rod's like, "She looks better than ever."

And Andy's like, "Well, are you an Audrey still in touch?" And Rod rego's like, "Well, I mean, after a couple of weeks ago, after she reamed Tyler and I for being complicit in this in his bullshit, no offense, babe." Both Tyler and I tried to let her know.

And we were like, we can just call you when we can, and then we can have this conversation,

but she blew us off and we never heard back.

And she's hurt. Whatever, be a, shh, girlfriend. - Well, it ended the day I get paid as for babies. And Audrey's not going to be the girl. You know, Audrey's going to be that girl.

That she's going to be the one they got away for Austin. - No, she's not. Austin can give the fuck about that girl. You are the one that got away for Austin. - You.

- Stop trying to put it on Audrey. Stop projecting your terrible relationship. - Oh, I'm sorry. - Bonnie, you're misreading this. She's not going for accuracy.

She's just going to stab Austin, that's all. 'Cause he's like, that's not true. - Yeah. And he'll feel that way for the rest of his life. - No, it's not.

No, I won't. - Every time it looks the mirror, you'll be thinking, Gosh, Audrey could have been standing next to me. And I messed it up. 'Cause I'm a fool.

I'm an idiot. And I ordered too much ice cream when I go to my school in place.

- No, I literally never think that.

- Yes, you do. You messed up. Biggest bone-hand decision of the entire life. And now you can just see it and think about that. And then that's not when you're sleeping.

You put your head on your pillow and you're alone. You're just going to see your face.

“And then remember, better face isn't actually there with you.”

Because you ruined that. And you can think about that every time you go to sleep for the rest of your life. Isn't that right, Austin? Ugh, you broke me.

One day here, you're going to be 60-year-old. You're going to look in the mirror. And you're going to say, "What is my shirt?" Say, "BE?" "Be what?"

And then you're going to turn around. It's going to say, "Tah, on the back." Just going to be there with my litter and children. Laughing at you. - Mm.

- Look it back. Well, Sally, and Austin might be the newest item on Southern charm, but I always said, Greg and Austin are the greatest love story on Bravo. - Go.

- But this season, an off-hand comment. And that with Nerslitt A.P.E. had Crag and Austin on different stages. - Oh, good. So we get the clip of Craig dislucing his mind because Austin makes a comment, Mike.

- Yeah, maybe Sally doesn't like shot, because they're always in your hot tub, Craig. Craig's like, "Ahh!" - I'm like, "Lucus, this is mine." Well, it's like a lost boy.

- Oh, man. - Well, Craig accused you of having foam all and you were jealous of him being single. "Do you have foam all?" And Austin's like, "No, no foam all."

- Okay, no foam all the home all. Well, sometimes home all. When I'm with Ryan on the home all. - Yes, that's true. - Yeah, that's true.

- Yeah, that's true. - So Sally's like, "Well, I don't know how anyone could say that because Austin could have come to the hot tub anytime he wanted." That's why I was always like, "You're making hot tub all's thin."

- But he didn't come to the hot tub 'cause he had a girlfriend, that was the point.

Like, it wasn't like we were having an orgier or something. And why didn't you come to the hot tub? - 'Cause I was having an orgier Craig or you're not listening. Oh, sorry.

- Yeah, I'm trying to be respectful of Audrey right now. Trying to be respectful. - Your Craig is just desperate for people to come over and use his facilities. He like gets up and but then no one wants to go over

and play with his toys and so he lashes out. - Yeah. - Don't you want to see my bees?

“Don't you want to see my underperforming Pinyocalata machine?”

Don't you want to see my hot tub? And if I was like, "No, we're like, "this isn't like as cool for us as it is for you. "Yeah, but why?" - Look at everything, my dad got me.

- You know, it's like that kind of vibes when you're a kid. And then when he fights with anybody, he can be like, "You came to my hot tub." - Yeah. - I let you get into trouble.

- I let you get into trouble. - That's another reason why they don't go in the first place, like, "Wait 'cause in the moment that there's an issue, "it's like, "but you use my son to hand shop in the pool." - I didn't have foam, oh, Craig, okay.

I don't give a shit about your hot tub. (laughing) Well, I wasn't at like an orangeie though, by the way, can we go back to that? What?

I wasn't shipping hot tub either. And she was like, "I was there." I'm just no longer sexually viable in this group. But I was there, they just don't mention me.

- Craig's like, he was always there.

This might shock people, but Sally and I have never been in the hot tub by ourselves ever.

“And I think people think that we were in the hot tub alone.”

I'm like, "I guarantee people literally don't care enough "to know who was in the hot tub one." It's not something we could be pondered all day every day. - I mean, Andy says, "Yeah, I think you made that clear, "though I'm going to go to the cabin "where are people

"so confused that we didn't hook up?" - She was 'cause we were in the hot tub "to perform the morning Craig? "The cabin people were confused "it no one was hooking up."

So, Craig is still misunderstanding this whole thing. People aren't mad at you because you led Sally on. I don't think anybody am audience is like, "Wow, Craig really led Sally on "and then dumped her."

The reason people were against you was because Sally said she liked you and instead of just being like, "Oh, I'm sorry, this isn't gonna work out "and just being sensitive, you were like, "No, this isn't gonna work out

"and then went to the group of the entire cast of men "in the show." Oh my God, you guys, Sally's fucking insane. She's like tornado, she's not to be trusted and active like she did something wrong to you.

That was a problem. It's not that everyone thought you fucked and ditched her.

Like he just never gets it, you know?

- Yeah. And he's like, "Shuff hands, who thinks Austin has?" - Oh, no, Craig's the only one who races his hand and when they're like, "Crickets?" Crickets.

And he's like, "Last season, Austin, "you felt like Craig wanted to stay home "and hide out, but here he was ready to go out."

“So, you had to feel kind of good about that, right?”

Like now he wants to go out. It's what you were asking about. So why are you so upset? Well, because the turn's out is quick, Craig's like, "You were like that fact that you were hanging out

"with girls in your hot tub, his bullshit." He said, "No, I thought I was doing gentle living. "It was gentle gentle living." And it was a poke. That's all, it's a poke.

Yeah, but poking someone until they break down is called manipulation. I was like, "Oh, okay." Like, Craig has clearly asked what do you call poking people until they break down to touch your P.T.

And they're like, "Well, that's a great question." Some might say that's called pestering, which you call manipulation. I could see it being called manipulation. Great, thank you so much. That's all I need.

The fence rests. Yeah. So it's like the boy I was trying to get across was, you know, we're trying to talk about a bunch of stuff and then he brings up the alcoholism thing.

And he's like, "But I was being vulnerable." Yeah, and I was freaking out 'cause it's being thrown in my face. So, this, this whole Craig thing. You were using that.

You were using that to manipulate. So stop it. Were you pretending you weren't?

You never stopped drinking.

You were even drunk when you said it. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, that's poking and poking the manipulate. By the way, Craig is the biggest manipulator

and it's a manipulation that he cruises someone also being a manipulator. It's like a simulation. Yes. You know?

So, let's see, we're talking about this. Exactly. Yeah, I was just saying, like, I never know which version of Craig is gonna show up. Is it gonna be like the fun, Craig is gonna be fun,

smiling, Craigy, or is it gonna be the Craig that we saw that night, you know? And then Andy's like, "Oh, so do you add a bigger issue with Craig?" And that's been on, that's been on your mind.

So, it's about the whole addiction thing that surface at the end of last season. And Andy says, "You accused him of manipulating that conversation, what did you mean by that?" So, Austin's likes, he basically says, "Look,

when we sat down on the beach, you know, there's a lot of stuff that I was trying to get across about how I was feeling, we're gonna like clear the air." And Craig essentially was like, "Well, look,

and I'm just trying to focus on that." So, Austin tabled everything because this was such a big admission for Craig and it was a vulnerable admission and it was really very, like it was important that I kind of made everything seem small.

I think it was essentially what Austin was saying. And I was so happy that Craig was opening up to me

“that, like, I felt like that's what we should just like,”

focus on. So, essentially what he's saying is,

I had all these issues and Craig basically put the cabash

on them by dropping this thing that felt like a very vulnerable and bonding thing at that moment, but then come to find out, you know, actually, like, he's still drinking and like, just now in retrospect, it feels like a manipulation.

- Well, not only that, it's like it's just whole thing on camera and Craig dropping that on camera knows it's a stopper because if Austin starts arguing with him while he just said, "Oh, I'm an addict." Then Austin would be completely ripped apart for that

and it was Craig manipulating the situation and it's true, things like, and what, yes. And as proof, what you guys didn't see was right after that, he was walking up to the crew being like, "Oh my God, did you guys cry?"

Like, wasn't that good? Were you guys crying at that moment? - Craig? - Like, you just shot a movie scene. - Like, whoa, nailed it, did you guys cry?

Like, how many tears are there raise your hands? Thanks, you guys, thanks, thanks. Like, the THING craft service is my agent, Jack. Thank you, Jack. - I only said that because I was so vulnerable

and freaking out about embarrass-- freaking out about how embarrassing it was that it would be like, I was worried it'd be thrown in my face. I love my way. This is like the new thing I'm bravo

is to take a victory lap because you were vulnerable.

“I think it's great when people are vulnerable,”

but like, you don't win an award for it. I'm sorry. But it's not what it shows you do.

They always congratulate themselves.

Like, oh my God, I was so vulnerable. How could you do this to me? - Wasn't I so vulnerable? It's awesome. Well, we moved on from that and the drinking was still taking place.

And I'm not the drinking police. I don't care if Craig drinks. I promise you. But I was like, how are you going to say this to me? And now here we are, right?

And so it's basically like, you played the card, but then you act like you never played the card. - Yeah, you played the card to get out of something in the moment, but you were never intending to actually do anything about being an addict.

And I don't even think you believe you're an addict. You fucking weirdo. And Craig's like, but it was a year later. - Yeah, but Craig, when you say you're an addict and you're worried about your drinking,

that means you're an addict and you have a drinking problem. Like, you don't get to just pretend it never happened 'cause it's a year later, you find it. - It's like he's allowed to not take care of it. Like that's his right.

He's going to decide what path is best for himself.

But when he uses that card to basically shut down conversation

to be like, hey, give me a break because I'm working on this thing. And then he goes back to like, oh, you weren't really, like, the sincerity of it is in question. Were you really working on it?

Were you just saying that to shut up Austin from lodging serious issues he has with you? - Yeah, and Rod's like, well, girlfriend, you did call me right after dinner and let me know that Austin was really out of line.

And he's like, sorry, I can't see the next line because I'm rolling my eyes. But stuff's like, well, he was wrong-headed because he was being completely naked and vulnerable. And I see where Austin's saying,

but there were other arguments Austin could have employed on reality TV, you're not supposed to interrupt vulnerable people. I'm Chef, I've learned things. - Gosh. - Well, I was surprised by the level of acrimony.

You said you ate Craig. - Gosh, my jaw was on the damn table. - And I was just, well, I was chewing. - Sorry, Ben. (laughs) - As they say in Cuba, my jaw was on the table seat though.

So Andy's flying. - Yes, my jaw! (laughs) - Do you hate on? Do you hate Craig?

- And I honestly thought Austin was like, "No, I was just mad." - He goes, "Yeah, sometimes I do hate Craig." And it felt really good just to say it. And I wanted to see if you would hit it,

if it would hit you, or affect you, or if you just wanted to change any sort of way, he's actually kind of like talking. It's like very melodramatic to think about it. I mean, how many of these shows have we seen with the ladies?

Like, I just wanted to get a reaction out of y'all. And you didn't need to respond to me. I'm leaving y'all, but it's also instead saying it. - Well, it had the opposite effect, 'cause I said clearly, this isn't a friendship anymore.

So to me, if you say, "Hey, that's the end." - Yeah, but saying, "Hey, you," is not to say, you know, it's not saying the shit. You said me, Craig, which is not forgetvable shit. If you ask me, I mean, wow, you haven't built anything.

“Your life is the same as it was five years ago.”

You haven't done shit. You're a loser. - I was like, yeah, but that's, it is mean. - It's true. - But it's also true.

- It's true. - Like, what you're saying about Craig is true, but what Craig is saying about you is also true. Like you're both kind of losers and stuff like that. - Yeah, that wasn't a friend.

Go ahead, Ben, I'm sorry. - Chris, thank you, I just was gonna advocate on behalf of, on behalf of also here a little bit,

but it was a dick thing that he was throwing in Austin's face,

“'cause I'm sure Austin's probably pretty aware of his own static”

position in life. So yeah, of course, Austin was going to get mad after that. - Of course, thank you. - I'm Garce Gray. Well, you don't give a fuck about me, Craig.

You just want to say nasty things, and you know they're skating, and you know it's got a boiling point, and I can all do this. This is circle of bullshit.

Okay, maybe we just need to quit now. We need to quit it now. - Craig, just want you to know, I am such a boon over you guys fighting like this. Do you stand by Austin that Austin has nothing to show

for the last five years? - And Craig, like, no, it was retaliatory, which I'm allowed to do, but Austin's not allowed to. We were just arguing at the table. - Do you want to apologize?

- Yeah, okay, I'm sorry for that, but I was mad that he kept attacking me and had a problem with everything I did. - It's just like, gosh, Craig, it's so hard for you to say, I'm sorry.

- They're trying to get an apology out of you. It's like trying to talk to a brick wall, which I actually do try to do every now and then, because I really hit on everything in Austin's, so now I'm just at walls, just making it walls.

- Well, I disagree, and you can't knock me down because Mortar is holding me together. (laughs) - Well, what is Charlie thinking about this? Well, after Witt's party, I was proud of Craig

for how we apologize. What, what apology? - I apologize right after they just didn't air it. I sat you down and apologize, which by the way is funny 'cause when we see the clip,

there's no sitting down, it's all standing. - We are, but Craig doesn't watch it. So he's like, they must have cut the clip. 'Cause I was like, well, how do you know if you don't watch it, but I guess he's thinking that they must have cut it?

And Witt and her goes wild, claim wild. And so we see the unseen footage of Craig saying, at the end of the day, oh, so I guess it wasn't seen. I feel like I did see this, but whatever. - He's like at the end of the day,

“poor people are poor and that that's why they're poor.”

And I shouldn't have said the stuff, and I'm sorry. But like you just triggered me. - It's not a good apology, yeah. I don't know what Charlie's even talking about. I feel like she didn't even see this.

I think that probably Craig reported back a conversation. - Yeah. - So she's saying I'm proud. Yeah, I'm proud of Craig for apologizing 'cause he said he did, but he didn't really. - But like this is not like it, like Craig went off on Austin.

Austin was, to be fair, Austin was making little digs all night. And he's like, oh, I'm just ribbing. And there were digs, there were passive aggressive digs. There's underlying tension between these two guys. Fine, Craig, but Craig was really mean when he popped off.

And Craig thinks it's okay 'cause he said this half ass, that's not even half ass, that's a quarter ass. I mean, it's a fifth ass apology where he's like, well, I shouldn't have said it, but you triggered me. So, presently, chef is like,

"Cars, you always say that, but you did trigger me,

but you did trigger me." And when the witness like anything before doesn't count, once you say but, and so then Craig's like, "How many more times are you gonna attack me when we're filming?"

I'm like, oh gosh. You were the attacker. And I was like, well, I would never say that kind of shit when my back goes against the wall. I mean, everyone here, how to traumatizing story with Craig.

There, every single person, not outside of filming. I mean, put me in a pressure cooker long enough and something's gonna happen. What are you talking about? Craig, you yelled at Sally outside of filming.

She cried. - By the way, I like Craig's justification. Like, you may be traumatized by me, but it happened during filming, so it's okay. - Yeah, it's traumatized you outside of filming,

only on camera, which is better. - Yeah, I think you'll get it, Sally. Well, according to Sally and Charlie, you screamed at her. - Yeah, you yelled at me off camera in front of my mother. - Okay, guys, that's enough.

Like, everyone is like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't yell at her. - You made her cry. - Craig is like, well, that's different than yelling.

“I think we can all agree making girl cry”

as totally acceptable if you don't yell at her in the process. - So if he's not winning, everybody's like, no, Craig, you literally yelled at her and made her cry in front of her mother period. And he's like, okay, so then you want to know

how many bad moments everyone here has. - Oh, okay, now it's everyone, but everybody knows it. - I'm loving this, that the cast is like holding Craig's feet to the fire, 'cause he cannot get himself out of one of these.

- Yeah, and in the past seasons, and I think particularly it was it last year, like this has happened before, where there's like, hey, but Craig, you got really scary. But it usually seems to be contained to shape an Austin,

and here it really is the whole cast. It's like, you are scary, and you are mean to us.

And Andy's like, well, you're saying you never yell

at the except if they're on camera, and they're all saying that that's not a representation, exactly, so now he's like sad and looking down. So Andy's, he's just like, reminders from of him say, when Whitney said Austin the last victim complex

and Craig is a narcissist, I'm sorry, when Whitney said this, and that Austin has an accident. Austin has a victim complex and Craig is a narcissist,

in one sentence. Okay, Whitney, how are you able to wrap your head around that relationship so quickly? - Um, I have eyes and ears. Okay, Craig did win some it up, and he's like, no,

because narcissists are people who don't have empathy,

“might my therapist told me when I said, am I a narcissist?”

And she said, don't, no, narcissists do not have empathy. And literally as an empath, it would be impossible for me to be a narcissist. I do a lot of things wrong, but I'm far from being a narcissist. You are a narcissist.

If you're asking chatGPT, if you're a narcissist, you're a narcissist, not narcissists don't have to ask, Craig. - I feel like the most narcissistic thing you can do is declare yourself an empath, totally. - Totally.

- Other people to say that you're an empath, right? - Yes, so many narcissists on Bravo claim to be empaths. - And what's like, well, I'm only going off for what I see, you scream at people in the barn.

He's like, well, it's your first season

where you don't know anything about this world. I thought that you guys were friends like long before this, liars, you punch a las. - And also like, again, what a condescending an arrogant thing to say.

- Hey, guys, I get the sense that he's a bit more accomplished and successful than Craig is. And I'm actually a little upset that Whitner did not sort of snap back or defend himself and explain like just as Craig has given himself the right

to hear Austin's story about Audrey and driving up a back and forth from Charlotte and then therefore analyze the situation with the narcissist spray and to be able to determine that Austin is not. Whatever Austin you felt about Austin and Audrey,

Whitner is equally entitled to look at you and how you behave and I think you say and do and make other people cry and make a declaration of the fact that you are, in fact, a narcissist. - Yeah, it's literally your job to comment on everybody's stuff

on these shows.

They ask you, he was literally asked by Andy right now.

And also, you don't have to know about being a reality TV. You're screaming at women in their faces. Period. It doesn't matter if you're on a reality show you loser. So Andy asks Austin, if Craig is a narcissist

and they're like, yeah, duh. This is crazy.

“Was that some, that's what a textbook narcissist would say?”

- That's the most insulting thing. You don't think on empathetic. Shut up, Whitner, you just got here. So I'm like, I was saying, I'm not empathetic. And I was like, nope.

It's really mean to say that about someone calling someone a narcissist means that they're incapable of showing empathy and everything they do is for show. And if that's how you believe about me, then you shouldn't be friends with me.

- He's not friends with you. He said multiple times today that he's not friends with you. - And they have repeatedly said everything you do is for show that I was like the whole thing this season is that, or the last season was that Craig is trying to be Martha Stewart

and that he bailed on plans with his best friend to go golfing so that when he could stay home and shoot videos of him gardening so 'cause it would be good for the brand. And you're literally doing stuff to be presentational.

- Yeah, he's like, oh, there we go again, Craig. Like, oh, you're like, you shouldn't be friends with me. You're a fucking dickhead. - The world seems like there's a lot more to discuss. We're gonna leave it there for right now.

“Does anyone else wanna call Sally a dumb slut before we go?”

- Okay. - Anybody? - I do. - Okay. - I do. - Oh, dumb slut. - Dumb slut? - Dumb slut? - One of these streets. - Watch out.

- All right. - We're gonna have a Sally Friday night and have a quick five. - Okay. - All right, everybody. It's so Craig and Craig leaves and he's like, "This sucks, this is so unfair."

And then he stalks off through the hallways, bitching everybody to all this in. He's like, "It's so clear, it's just pile on Craig." And I'm just supposed to eat shit. I ain't being here.

I don't even know if I'm coming back anymore. And he's talking to his producers like waving the cameras out of the room. Like, "No, we're dealing with baby Craig, no. Go away." (laughs)

Craig, who has just spent the past 20 minutes of the reunions and he doesn't yell at anyone, doesn't have tantrums and he's an empath and like he's being accused of being this terror, has now gone off backstage and ramped it

and ready to all the producers. So, who knows? - How is gonna take us towards and go home? - What a lose. - So funny. - Well, it was very funny.

- Yeah. - It was very satisfying. Watching them just hand it to Craig and not fall for his bullshit again. It was so funny. - True.

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