#3272 Ladies of London S4E04: Going Hard in the Paint

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And on that front, today we are back in the wondrous, wonderful show. No, no, no, not as late as a London season four episode four naked truths. And the episode opens up with Mark Francis, getting out of a car and announcing Americans tend to be very openly emotional. Can you tell the amount of disgust in my voice?

What I say that. Oh, emotional. Can we see on the screen in pink text, emotions, Brit's versus non-Brit's and we cut to Mike. I like, oh my god, I'm just so sad, I'm just so sad.

Mark, oh my god, I've got a cry, I've got a cry right now. And then we just cut to Emma, who's like, keep calm and carry on is our motto. Well, maybe we should talk about stuff, boy, I don't know. And then that's Martha saying that to Emma, and Emma's just like, oh, talk about stuff more disgusting.

I don't know how we'll feel to be in a nation. Never. You know, it's, oh, and then Mark goes, like, it's kind of the bread's armor though. It's just like, step it all down forever and then just die. Yes, discount anavian culture, it's very honest, almost too honest.

I'm gonna go to Kimmy. Get to you. I just kind of stomped people with the marble part, bring on about offering things my film. And we see a flashback of her back then, "Oh my god, her brother died."

Like, "Wow, wow, wow, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, a longed-blank." So now we're back in the streets of London, and Lati, and her husband Joshua, they are dressed the nines as usual in suits, like matching suits that are like tailored within a centimeter of their bodies. I mean, this guy has some two talent in terms of like fitting.

They are always wearing suits that are like perfect.

And Lati, she's like, "I would like a tennis bracelet, has a push present." And she says, "I feel like we're actually a bit more traditional than people would think we are." He's like, "Yes, I would say we are the traditional feelings and values, took a coat, didn't very unconventional looking relationship."

"It's not this way of talking about him." He's like, "I would take a very conventional, but also unconventional." "Why do you look like you were drawn by Bob's burgers? Why?" Why do you look like you're in an old commercial for Guinness? So they go to the jewelry store, we're just like very homey lady with like a little headband

on and stuff. Say, "Hello, welcome back, good to see you again. Welcome to Hembridge, Puck of Puck of Arms." It's like a very like, is like Piccadilly, Piccadilly jewelers, and they are there to look at tennis bracelets and other bobbles and jewels.

"Yeah, and they're looking at like 80,000 pounds on all these crazy expensive things." And Josh was like, "Well, I do love this woman's watch, but I don't know, it's for women. Is this too untraditional and traditional relationship?"

“Sure, remember that time, I brought you flowers, wasn't it traditional?”

"Oh, traditionalism, it's our king." "So you went to a wine tasting? Was the traditional wine?" "How was that?" She's like, "Oh, it was quite nice. They are opened up a lot and so I do sort of felt, I thought I felt like I could open up about my dad's cancer."

And like, you know, how you talk about what you've been through and stuff, he's like, "Oh, yes, he's been had a run. We're not talking about the cancer now, are we? We are still British, right? Do we have to talk about things?" When we got together, like, that was sad, because he's such a big part of our romance.

Then you said that your dad, you were just like blown away the opportunity that your dad

might not walk you down the aisle. That was so, so sad. Yes, and it was really nice, then Missy sort of opened up about her brother being murdered and he goes, "Oh, my God! Why are you having wine?" "Oh, this time it won't be wild. Food was being served. How untraditional? Do I have a bone, huh?" "Yes, and the only person didn't really say anything that deep was Kimi. I mean, she

can speak Haitian, but we all knew that."

“Like, Kimi went first pretty much, right? I think she was the first one to go.”

Like, you can't blame her, you didn't know that it was going to go deeper than that. She wasn't like, "Well, it's not the only one, because it got to Marga and Marga's like,

"I gave a hand job to a guy and I'm moving, it came all over my hand and I'm a famous

man, oh, like she was saying, "Yeah, I didn't be." "Yeah, I get over it, Ladi." She's like, "I mean, if we're talking about Kimi, she's not British, but I do think in general it's quite a British thing to not really share how we're feeling and just to sort of get on with things and I think a lot of people in a group do have that side of them. I said, "Why you mad at Kimi for it? She's just trying

to fit in." Yeah. She's like, "Well, I think we're going to have to peel her back those layers a little bit more." Why, listen, to everybody who wants to peel the onion, stop, onions smell, they make you smell all day and they make you cry. If you see an onion, leave it

the fuck alone. And as an onion, let me tell you, don't try to peel me. You're going

to walk away from here crying. Stop with this, try to peel the onion. Okay? Also, I've got bad news for you. Something that I discovered watching the feature film heroes, sorry, Gina Davis. When you peel that onion, guess what you find in the middle, there's nothing in the middle of the onion. There's a scene in that movie. Early on, we're Gina Davis is giving a speech and I saw this

movie only once in eighth grade and this is stayed with me and Gina Davis brings that onion during her speech and she starts peeling and she's like, "Sometimes in life you

“peel back the onion and that's what we do as journals we peel and we peel and we peel”

and she starts crying because of the onion and she's like, "We peel, we peel and guess what in the end? There's nothing there." And I was like, "Wow Gina Davis, I'm going to remember that for the rest of my life." And I have, and I haven't ever mentioned that until right now in the podcast, 30 years later, I'm like guys, formative onion experience I had with Gina Davis. Yeah, that's true. I didn't give it so much. So, she picks out a 30,000 pound

tennis bracelet and he's like, "Oh my god." She says, "Yes, but every time I look down and I'll say, "My vagina did that." You said vagina in Pembley, Pickleston, how was traditional." And Bona, Bona, Bona Richies. Does it smell like chives in here? Onions, you know. So, now we go to a Bentley and Micah is meeting up with Margo and Micah she'd Micah see my hair in her class. Yeah. She's like trying to give etiquette lessons

to my bits. She's like, "This is how you hold a board in the front of my butt." Oh my god, I can't even get through a scene. This is just too much. Yeah, so she has a class. She's all dressed up for it. She's dressed very formally and they arrive at a spot. And I'm like, "This way, all British spots look like they look like they're in an embassy." And so they're sitting there, like in these like, beautiful

self as in a lobby and Margo's like, "I really like Micah." She's not what I expected at all. She immediately gives me a feeling of warmth and being invited and safety. She's sort of like the hand job of friends, you know? Just a great vibe. So Micah's like being friends with a customer service representative like that's pre-recorded. You know, like when you call somebody and they're like, "They're so glad

that you're here. Please press one. If you'd like this in English, or press two. If you'd like this in Spanish." I mean, she's nice, but she's nice in that. Like, "Hi, how are you?" kind of way. I'm just don't trust her. I mean, I feel like it's me moving to Mexico and like offering a tortilla class. You know? Like, "Why are you doing this?" This is not your place. Yeah. So they're talking about husbands. And Margo's husband is from Lebanon and he's Lebanese

Armenian. And we have a flashback of Margo talking to her family. She's like trying to face time with her family and no one wants to look at her. And she's like, "I want that to want to say hi." And he's like, "Not right now, which seems to be an ongoing theme on this show of the husbands not wanting to be seen on any face sounds." We just saw that with Micah last week, right? Where she's like, "Oh, I don't need to be driving again."

“Micah? No. Yeah, I think that's why she likes Micah because both their husbands hate”

them, you know? And she's like, "Honey, you need to say hi to me. Please just say hi to me." Okay? He's like, "I'm having coffee." Okay? Well, hi. He's like, "Hi. Okay, hang up on your mother now." So back to present. She's like, "He did not want to marry me because he had a really traumatic experience." And so I was like, "We're having a baby." So yeah. I made him go to a

So sad. So she goes, "My husband is an entrepreneur and he's very successful. We met at a

“party and I was like living in Los Angeles and it was like six weeks before COVID happened.”

And I didn't expect to have any connections out of this party whatsoever, but then he just gave me a hug, a bye, and like, "I know this doesn't sound really dramatic, but I felt like the whole universe passed right between us." I'm like, "Oh yeah." The plan was like, "Get me away from this relationship. We're messing. We pass. We pass on this relationship." He's a real hotty. I'm sure I had nothing to do with the fact that he's rich. This fucking guy. She's like, "This guy hates her." She's like, "Oh my god,

I just knew right from the beginning when I heard how much money that was it." And so she's saying that her boys come in nine days and he saw her boys from his first marriage, so they just became a family very quickly. And Micah says, "Well, is the idea that everyone comes over here permanently?" She's like, "Well, I just want to introduce them to the UK because like all my work has been here." I mean, I'm not made one person come on film in America. You know, you just follow the

fountains as what I say. They're just so much pressure because in my family, my family's against me spending time in the UK and it's like really greatly reduces my ability to be here. I'm like, yeah, because they live in Los Angeles and you came out here to do a reality show and they're like, we don't want to leave LA. So the masseuse comes by her name is comfort, which of course they enjoy. And now they're getting massages. And Micah is talking about foot fetishes and she says it's like,

foot fetishes, fetishes exist because the part of the brain that recognizes the foot is right beside the part of the brain that sexual activity ends sometimes they're wires going across. I was like, I would like to see the documentation on that. That was something that does not sound true.

Yeah, I've never heard that. You're the foot part of the brain. This is not like two

aisles of the library and someone put the book in the wrong aisle. I don't know. It does and I'm just too lazy to look it up myself. And I also don't know if I care enough. Yeah, I'm wondering if that's like if some people that's feeding some people, it's like Snickers bars or something. So Micah's like, no way. No, it's true. And so they see feet and they're like, whoa, burn our time. You know what I mean? Okay. So listen, I feel like I barely saw you yesterday,

mostly because we were in the car. And it's like, I know, you know, one part of that lunch. I really appreciate it. It was how vulnerable we got to me. It's just like slicing open our souls and letting them bleed all over each other. God, it felt good. Yeah, that's up with Micah. That was like a real life nightmare. And then we cut over to Micah's flat. And she faced some sort of sister of Valentina. And she's like, my sister's husband is a soccer player. He signed a contract in Dubai.

So they moved up there for two years. And my sister is like my best friend. She supports me. And she's

“like always tells me straight. And she reminds me of who I am. She's amazing. Isn't that America?”

I'm amazing America. And then she starts talking about she tells Valentina about the winery. And she says how is the first time she'd opened up about their brother. And she's got very choked up. But it was also very healing for her. Yeah. And so she's talking about going to visit the grave.

And the sister's like, yes, it's, you know, to fix everything or comfort zones because we always

have this fear in us. And we've been doing so good. And I'm so proud of you. And then back to Micah and Margo. Micah's like, yeah. And I think that was a big moment for her to open up like that. I mean, gosh, like she got up. She took that microphone. And she sang that number of karaoke. And it was just great. Margo's like, oh, yeah. But like, Kimmy, she hated that part. Like when we were on the way home, she was like flashback to the car.

Well, I'm, you know, some drug related thing. Like let's not make it into some fucking solve story. Am I right? Oh, my goodness. It is a sob story. And she is right. So Micah's like, oh, that's tough. Margo goes, I know. That's her coping mechanism, though, you know. But I do feel like Missy needs to know that because if Missy feels like she's in a safe space to share. And she's not. She should know that. I don't know. I'm sorry, Margo.

This bitch just met this whole group of people and there's cameras in her face. And she's on

a reality TV. And for one moment, she thought she was in a, she knew she always knew she was never

in a safe space. There's nothing about any part of that thing. Everyone's getting drunk that said, this is a safe space. She told the story. It's a very sad story. But she was trying to kind of have like a moment. I'm sure the producer was also told her by the way, when it comes to you,

“you have to tell the story. So like, I'm sure that was part of it. But like, not just like,”

oh my god, we have to protect her because she didn't realize it wasn't a safe space. It was like, no, shoot. It wasn't a safe space. Why would you ever think like, why would you like just like, blah, I'm just going to announce it to a bunch of people. I don't know. Like, sorry, I'm not going to go south with Margo and this one. Yeah, you're on TV. You're doing this in front of people on camera. And even going, like, good luck following that one up at the end when you told your

story. So yeah, people are going to say that. Yeah, people are going to have an opinion. And that's

So we go to Kimmy at her house. And she calls Micah. And Micah's like, oh my god, what is that behind you? And she's like, oh, that's a Seth Bird. That's an Egyptian sacred virus from like 1840. It's not fabulously dead. Oh, hey, give me a high five. It can't because that's dead. I killed them, stopped it. She goes, she goes, yeah, they're extinct now actually. Oh, god, don't you hate those weak species. I can't even live. Oh, I've been collecting taxes

to do for 30 years. I've always been obsessed with Dodd things. You know, like an amazing piece of

taxid army is the way the animal is preserved. And in that way, it's posed as beautiful. It's under the glass jars painted. That's done in taxid army form. My favorite is to find something that doesn't, doesn't even exist when extinct. I say, you're so stupid. I mean, like, I'm supposed

“to care about the fact that you don't live on this planet anymore. I mean, get over it, right?”

Long to long. I love. Oh, my pets should be dead. You know, you don't have to pick a poll. You don't have to say them. They just set the hour and they look amazing. That's a Martha blood coming down her eyes for her. I love this. Kimmy, just, just like, well, look, I know I'm a little more bad. You know, but listen, I was just calling everybody to see if you're free tomorrow comes like a little arctic. I'm doing some painting and some drawing. You know, some real

stupid self. We could talk about life. He's going to finally have fun. Have that drag of a wind here. Am I right? So we see you're talking to everybody on the phone asking everybody individually. Yeah, you know, we'll have a few drinks, maybe. And I don't know. Get a little naughty. Are you writing for it? I think that's a formidable idea. Well, also, I was going to say that last of that we went to. We just got to Sam. Remember what's telling us from a really

“fun, fun story. That's how nobody's family members were going down this time. They would”

really mean I was at some walk the long while we paint some cock. Everyone cry. The wine got them whining. Well, there's a good one. One should laugh at that, Kimmy. I mean, thank God I

got out of that. I have never heard of an occasion in which wine has made people miserable. What

on earth when so fundamentally long. So now we go to Kimmy talking to Martha and Martha's like, "Oh, are you going to have a naked model?" I don't know, it's a surprise, Marathon. I'll just show up all right. Well, I'm certainly not doing a still life. Oh, well, me too, unless it's a banana. Well, we're painting or withdrawing. Well, we may do a combination. Depends on how drunk we got right. We'll see what happens. I don't think it's going to be anything too, Marathon.

I mean, excuse the nudity. So we go to a museum and it is Mark's house. I mean, this is the old queen dream. It's just antiques. Everything is gilded and America would be a Trump property. It's just it's gold, you know. It's a recoco explosion. Okay, everything is like little gold, twirlies and swirlies and leaves and details and gilded. It's just it's madness. And so Emma

comes over. You know, Emma always walks. She's like a super model and she's always sort of slinks in

with her like she always has like some like strappy kind of like back exposed thing. She's effortlessly walks into this gilded madness. And she's like Mark lives in this beautiful place that's super seen. I mean, artistically, oh, God, just so divide and intelligently curate it. I thought, oh, he has weird. There's not a rhinoceros there. Anyway, Mark, I love how uncharred friendly of spaces are. Oh, what is the child? I do try to curate my environment. I work

in the art world. History, design, detail, so important to me. I work with Christie's, the

“auction house, you might have heard of it. Oh, God, I'm an asset. Is that? Is that what it's called?”

It's a full-time estate. It's a full-time job and we see estate. A person who has a special appreciation of art and beauty. And he's on the phone looking through a book. He's like, "Could I please see the sugar loaf emerald?" Oh, that's crazy. She's like all of emerald. It's like my home is a very honest reflection of my soul. Gilded. Now, excuse me, I have some vase話 to do. Could I see a lot for you now, English? What, let's see what vase is there? Is that the

sugar loaf emerald? No. It's disgusting. There, thank you. I just wanted to call and let you know that, Christy, you slut. Well, everything here is just so delicate, Mark. Including us. It shows.

Yes, of course, it is. But I'm always endlessly grateful for life and that's why I do too much.

“As one lady once said, I do too much because you do too little. I don't follow.”

Neither do I. I don't know how they can't come to my head, but everyone always says to me, "Why are you so active? You Emma? Super active Emma is what I've known for. Look at me. Look at me being full of energy right now, Mark. I can't stay Emma. Because I'll start thinking and it will rub back to that health scare I had." He's like, "Oh God, we're talking about this. We're when I was pregnant. That was really, really. It really hits head again." And he just raises

his eyebrows, which is impressive because his face, when I tell you this man's face does not move, like even an inch. So, for him to raise his eyebrows, I was like, "Oh my God, that is that is a motion right. Well done. Olivier, Olivier. Get him and Olivier."

So, Emma tells us that when she was pregnant with her son that she basically got an MRI

and they found like a brain bleed on her computer to a very gland. And she basically got scans every year to monitor it. They give her steroids and it was like a very scary thing. And so she says that she recently went in for scan and they said it had jumped so much in size that it would now be in a category that's serious. Marcus, like, "Oh my God, do I have to access my emotions for this because I'm not sure I can do that. Let me just kiss you strangely on the cheek. Okay,

I have kissed you on the cheek. We can fit it to this conversation now." Can we talk about vases and sugar love hemorrhoids? Yeah, and she talks about her full body MRI and finding cysts and stuff like that. And she's like,

“"And that's why I take on more challenges." And it makes me sad, but nothing makes me feel better”

like gleaming a prioro shit. So, thank God for that. And they talk about how coping is, you know, just working. And he's like, "But you really do need to look after yourself darling." And she's like, "Well, we're not meditative you and I were, we're just not patient people." Because if I stop and meditate, I stop thinking about things that I want to buy. Herids is my meditation. I'm sorry.

But no, like, literally, it's silly. And I'm not even outwardly sad about it. That's like a really private inward thing, actually,

because yes, but that's the thing. You and I are always privately concerned about things,

but we never talk about anything with anyone. I know, we just keep calm and carry on. Let's go say, "Yes. I don't know if I have a long one can do that." And they're like, "Yes." They're like, "They hold hands." But we'll try. Well, sure as hell's dry, squeeze each other's hands. And she's like, "I only want to make sure that I'm strong and well enough because I'm responsible for my children." He's like, "Oh, you're not just responsible for your children, by the way.

You're responsible for your husband and you are decidedly responsible for me." Oh, yes, I know. I'm sorry. Okay. So, you're not going anywhere. We've solved this. There's been too much emotion for me. I'm on the verge of potentially thinking about crying, and I'm quite unpleasantly surprised by that. So shall we wrap this up with a little another kiss on your cheek, please? Just one more thing. You're not dying around this group because Kimmy will definitely

stop you and sit you right next to a bird for eternity. So now we go to Missy's very sad apartment. It's just like all white and like has like three chairs lined up against the wall, all facing the same direction. And Margot comes over and Missy's like, "Oh, look, welcome to my house. It's not done, but I think it's it's well along the way." And he can tell Margot's like, "Can I just go to someone's normal apartment for once between this and Martha?"

“I think what are these places that you guys live in?”

Not kidding. This one was crazy. So, Missy is like, "Oh, my God. Wait, who's she talking to, Margot?" So Margot's like, "Oh, my God. The last thing I want to do is tell Missy, they came to the thing that she was terrified of them doing. She just didn't want people to judge her brother." So Missy is like sitting in like a stool in the corner and she's like, "Well, I think the venue to what? Well, Margot's like, "Uh, he, he." Oh, if she finds out it happened

and I didn't tell her, that's going to be a very sticky place to be. I'm like, you would be fine. You had nothing to do with it. You were inserting yourself into this drama and trying to act like you're doing it to be a good friend and you're just being messy, Margot. So Missy is like, "Well, I was happy that there was no one making fun of my brother." What? What? You're making face. You're making American face, I'm scared. All what are you going to do now? Are you going to

shoot me? American face." Well, I've actually had a pit in my stomach all day. I'm literally so nervous. Okay, you know how we all shared something that was like personal to us. I talked about a guy coming all over me on screen and you talked about a dead brother. Well, Kimmy was just like, "Oh,

I know that story." And it was just like some drug-related thing. Well, what's that's what the press said? I mean, who knows what the real story was? Well, I'm just saying let's not make it into some fucking sob story. Back to present. What? Margot was like, "Yeah, I was like Kimmy that it's a real sob story that was in the press." And she was like, "Oh, come on, that just happens when the drugs." Like, I don't think Kimmy, let me go back to Kimmy saying, "You know, everybody says

there are waves, some acts at a big stand, but like it's sad and it's horrible, but it is what it is." Yeah, I mean, there's really no sticking up for Kimmy what she actually said because she did kind of say all this stuff. She's not making it because there was one point where she said, "Oh my God, everyone's quite with drugs. It's drugs." Yeah, but still, well, I mean, come on.

“I mean, it happened, that's what happens with drugs. So, Missy is like, that's not fucking cool.”

Well, I would be like, "Oh, well," Missy says, like, "Well, he should have died, you know, because he knew whatever. Like, "Oh, please." I feel very hot from Kimmy. The reason why I don't

talk about this is because I always expect someone to have something to say about it. So,

for her to be the one that goes and says, "That's just a woman." She's a mother. I'm like, I fully get that because there was scandal attached to this and like, you know, everyone's saying, "Oh, it was a hate. There were drugs." And like, it's frustrating that like this tragedy happened, then you just want to be like, "Can we just like honor that this person died?" Instead of like talking about the drugs and everything, but also like, why did you, like, this is, you just like,

you brought it to a reality TV show and like, they're just, they're gonna say shit like this, you know? Yeah, I mean, and that is what the new story is. I don't know if you've looked it up, but it's dark. And when it is, it isn't just like, some guy got shot and it's, it is like, you know, they were thinking it's like gang and, you know, drug and all the stuff. And when you shot 10 times, they came right up and shot him. It's horrible, horrible. I mean, still though, whatever it is,

you know, if someone was like, my family member is in the mob and he got shot, inside you'd be

“thinking, "Well, duh." But you don't say that, you know what I mean? Yeah. And by the way, I think it is,”

I read like a little headline about it. I read whole thing. But it was, Missy, was, Kimmy being callous, yes, she was. To be fair, she wasn't being callous to Missy's face, but she was being callous, but also, you know, Missy doing this whole thing of like, but if I, like, like, she's doing them a favor by telling the story, you know? And it's like,

you know, I don't know, like, like, what she's like, I don't talk about this because people always

have something to say about it. It's like, why, yeah, did you bring it up here at this group then? Yeah. Like, this is not the way to do it. And also, you know, I just, I find the whole thing fascinating just because it's kind of how real it. And I said this last week, you know, some kind of repeating, but it's just how reality TV is now where you just have to bring up every trauma. And that's the way that you get capital on these shows. It's like, it doesn't even matter. I mean, if you're on top

chef and it's mirroring the finals, they are not going to pick you. If you're like, I'm just a

“happy person who's well-adjusted and is worked hard. And now I'm a good chef. You have to have”

some trauma. And it comes up when people are making it up. It's like, well, I had a red wagon and my brother pushed me in it and I went too fast and I hit a stop sign. And now I can't think straight. So it's so hard for me to cook. And they're like, oh my god, but you still did it all after that red wagon trauma. And then they'll give you the prize. But they're not going to give it. So I think they're all kind of trained to do this. And especially Missy is someone who's a real housewife

and stuff. She's like, here I go. It's time to introduce ourselves. And this is my thing. I'm going to get my trauma out. And it's going to be great, you know. And so she does her big number. And Kimmy is just that person like me and the audience who's so sick of this shit, I'm sick of it. And it's like, someone does that. And then the response is like an audience response. It's like, oh, for fuck's sake, I'm fast forwarding through this, you know. Yeah. It's like, well, I

will have to listen to this guy, I just have some wine. Can I just watch stop chefs? It's and like quite frankly, I think one of the reasons why this show is being received so well, I mean, it's a great show. But also, there's so much shit going on in the world. You know, like,

you know, grossries are a million dollars. There's a war now. The economy, gas prices are up.

There's just, there's just stuff ice, you know, is coming. Like, there's just, they're just so many things that are terrible that are happening. And when we turn to these shows, we turn to reality TV, we wanted to escape. And we turn and we just like, you're right, reality TV sort of has become a thing of like, look what happened to me, look what happened to me. And there was a time in a place where that was actually a weird bomb to to what was going on in our lives. But right now,

I think we just want to say, shut the fuck up, I'm not trying to focus on the dark shit right now. And it just started in a good, an hour of peace. And that started like that, that whole

you know what, you can't say this. This is hurtful. And this hurts people's feelings. And like,

let's put, let's put, you know, non-traditional people on TV who aren't just like beautiful washboard abs, people. And like, let's put people on with real stories and like real pain. And so I think all of that comes from a good place. But then real reality, you know, reality start, what kind of the typical reality start person saw that was like, oh my God, well, I'm doing it too. So, right, you know, you've got this person, maybe they've got like one leg and only made it to

second grade because they had to work the rest of the for the to survive, make their family survive. Okay, well, I have a trauma. And guess what, my abs hurt, you know, right, like becomes a thing where everybody is trying to outdo each other with the latest trend of like vomiting their personal shit all over TV for social capital. And it got to the point where it's just gross. It's, it's just become

gross now. And the key thing that you just said is for social capital because I actually don't know

if we the audience are, we, I don't think we have a hard time with learning about people in their past and the tough things that they've gone through. We just had to see with Emma and Mark and that was interesting and captivating to learn about our health struggles. It's like when you're at a wine tape, we're watching a group scene, a wine tasting and someone basically says, oh, here's my tragedy. And now the entire show has to come to a halt. And it's kind of like, oh, I, I'm going to

just dump my trauma right here in this middle in the middle of a fun scene at just so that way, I kind of get some cred and like, look at me, look what I go through. And it just sort of, um, it's annoying. And that's where it's like, oh my god, we're just trying to enjoy a scene. Like, if you have these these individual scenes where we learn about people, it's fine, but it's all about the context. And I'm just like, I think we're all just over it. We just want to like have

“the fun scenes and that's why it's like when Kimmy is sort of like unrelenting in her stance about this,”

it's like really refreshing. It is. And you see the other cast members on this show have all done it in a less ham-handed way. I mean, Kimmy herself did. She talked about her background and her growing, it was fucking sad the stuff she was saying. You have, um, this one, uh, the people that we're talking to, wait, who are we? Oh, um, Martha, Martha's story is extremely sad and, and honest, um, Emma just told a very sad and on, even Mark, you know, was like, I don't have a relationship

with my dad, you know, they've all told really deep things, but they're more believable because they're not being showy about, they're not doing a fucking number of people. And they're telling us, they're not like making it a public like, all right, guys. It's time for my story. Here it is, my brother. They're doing it in a very private honest way. I mean, there's just a fine line in how this stuff comes off. And I think Missy doesn't seem like a bad person. And I don't want to like

completely beat her over the head with it. It's just, we don't want to do the arts of tragedy. So,

“right, it's not even that. It's just how you handle it is very different. And I think how they”

handled it, however, when else on the show has handled theirs has been real. And it's felt real, where it's felt performative. And it's performative. There's the word. And it's like, we want to go back to the onion. We want to peel the onion and we don't want to cut it in half and smother it all over our face. So anyway, that Missy is upset. And she had honestly, she has

all right to be because Kimmy is being an asshole about. I mean, Kimmy was a total ass. I would never,

like even even this whole conversation we're having, I don't think I would ever be like that. I don't think. More I've just like, oh, God shut up, drugstore, of course. It was drugs, you know, maybe to you and private and the car I would do that. But yeah, but it's also like, what Missy's doing is not that different than what Amanda Francis did, you know, at that dinner to get out of a tough conversation. So it's like, and you're like, you, it's like, you can't joke about it. You can't

joke about it because these are serious things that happen. But it does feel like, oh, but it's also being used in a strategic way. So now we're at Emma's house. And Emma's getting ready. And Martha

“Martha calls up, she's, oh, are you ready for today? I think there's going to be some kind of beef.”

And Emma's like, what happened? Like, so I know I went through a drink with Missy and all of that came in. I was going to be a little bit flippant. Missy really, it's really, really, really upset. And I've also gave up on the kids in my house. I don't know what I was thinking. I just gave it to I thought it's so bad. Then Missy calls Mike and catches her up on it. And Martha is saying, well, you know, Kimmy, she doesn't like talking about emotion. Does she really, very much so?

And Emma's like, well, we don't do it. English people just don't do that. We say less than those moments probably. She's like, well, I know that she's not actually British, but, you know, Kimmy town treats emotions like a bridge. She drinks them. Okay. She doesn't feel them.

Breakfast lunch dinner. I think we have to let them deal with it. They better serve drinks at this

“thing. So we're at the event because you think they're not going to serve drinks. They will.”

Kimmy's at the event. She's at the space where they're going to be doing this painting. And Kimmy's getting a tour and then Dev, the model comes out and he's like in a room. She's like, okay, how about this? Why don't you remove your robe? I want to just get a preliminary video to make see what we're working with here. I said, like, drops his robe. She's like, okay. I have very nice turned around. Oh, okay. I have our nice, all right. Okay. It's been around. Okay.

Now, can you hold in your hand? Okay. Now, there's someone named Margo coming. You've never seen

her immunity. Do you think you can be prepared for that? Okay. Right. You're doing great. Great job, this is so good. She's like, all right, drop the robe. Looking good. Wow. Well done, Dev. Well done. So people start coming and drinking and Mike is like, oh gosh, Martha, I just wanted to reach out to you

“because Margo told me there was some crazy scary things happening to you and we just get a flashback”

to Margo being like, oh God, Martha's like, oh, I hired this painter and then he quit and she texted the guy, did you drop the keys in the letter box and she never gets an answer. So now he knows where she lives. Oh my God, I can't be friends with this stupid woman anymore. We come back and she goes, oh, he means with the build. Yeah. Yeah. That was difficult. Can you be like, oh my God, you're gonna get raped or murdered. Oh, listen, I know Margo's already told me that told me

that's for let's do the flashback. Oh my God, if I found your dead body, I'm never going to be,

I'm taking a step away for this relationship. Yeah, she really yelled at me last week, but I was wearing a face, so it was all good. But like, are you okay? She's, oh, I'm okay, but I found it really scary at the time. She's like, well, maybe this was a good warning and maybe it's what you mean you did to just be careful more next time. She's like, oh, I've got to stop giving men chances. You know, Margo's approach has made me pay attention, but I prefer Mike as for sure.

So, what happened? What happened? Did she get the keys back? I guess she did. So, a lot of your rhymes. And, uh, she's like, well, everyone in case you didn't know I'm pregnant. And the baby was

upside down legs and they are giving a thumbs up and Margo's, oh, it's like Kimmy, you're having a little

guinea. Is it drunk? Is it all, is there not a speaking trio? They're like, oh, oh, oh. So we go to the car with Margo, he's picking up Emma and he's wearing jeans and he sees her and he's like, oh my god, you'll start slag. I can hardly bring myself to come to terms with the extent of your slaggers. What are you showing me? And she's like, hello, slag. By the way, what are these exactly that you're wearing? He's like, we're painting. What are you talking about? She's like,

I did not even know that Mark owned a pair of jeans. I'm quite shocked. I thought he was going to see cowboy Carter, but he doesn't know what that is either. Bad reference. I don't know. I'm surprised he wasn't like, you mean cowboy. Cartier. Oh, this is the wild instance in which I can learn jeans and feel like they're in somewhere appropriate to the activity I'm about to form. Shut up! I'm hanging out with Americans. What else am I supposed to wear? So, now Kimmy is telling

a lot of you to go each. Like, Ellie, you're just skinny and pregnant. Just stay away from the blonde blonde. Every time I eat a banana, I get a new boy for it. There's no elegant way to eat a banana, though, is there? And there's actually Micah has actually made a video where she puts the banana on a plate and she cuts around the edge of the banana, unpeels it and cuts little slices. I was like, that's not etiquette. That's ridiculous. Extra. And that is just, that's just how does this

woman have a business? I would unsubscribe immediately if someone was like, how to properly eat a banana with a knife and fork. Fuck off. So, and then back to the party, Emma and Mark arrived and he's like, "Oh, hello, we've come to disgrace you with all presents." God, Kimmy, you're matching the drink. She said, "Well, that's the kind of slot that I am. You want a banana?"

So, Emma tells Kimmy that she had her injection for Nairobi and she had to get all these because she's going there for the 10k. So, she had to get like, you know, all these disease,

“like the back, you know, whatever, the vaccines, thank you. I can remember. Yeah,”

word. So Kimmy's like, "Well, what did you have?" Yellow fever, hepatitis A, and she tells us about the charity and how she's been in an ambassador for task for many years

when you're from Haiti, you don't have to do anything. I've had cholera, I've had malaria."

“Emma goes, "If they bite you, they'll die first." Yeah, that's what I always say every time I have”

a banana. Oh, I have to get out of the gut me, became an alcoholic. Margo and Missy are arriving, they're in the car, and Margo's like, "How are you feeling about going in right now that I make you mad enough?" And she's like, "I feel fine." And like, I feel like we should go and have a few drinks. Say, "I'd like everyone." And then, you know, I'll just take her aside at some point. Yeah, maybe before she's had a drink, though, because, you know,

she's not going. Let's put that out there. Okay. But she drinks so fast. I'm supposed to do it before we have a drink. I need to say something to Kimmy, but I can't keep this feeling in me. I want her to know it's not okay to be so cruel. I need to get it out of my system. I hope she doesn't want to die. I'm an honest Scandinavian. That's how we are. We're all honest. I have to admit it out.

And so back at the party, Lottie's asking Kimmy how she is. And she's like, "I haven't seen anyone as spoken since the winery." She has a really, oh, God. I mean, that was such a dramatic sparing. I had to recover for three days. So, Missy and Margo arrived, but like Kimmy and Lottie are still talking. She goes, "I mean, people are either two things. They're fountains or they're

drains. And most people are drains." I loved that. I've never heard that before. Their fountains

are their drains and most people are drains. Well said. I know. I made sure I rewound it to make

“sure Dom heard that. The time did you hear that? That was good. That's what we have. We have tons of”

things written on dish towels. And I've never seen that one. That's a good one. It was a brilliant fountains or drains. I was like, it's just so perfect. So Mark, Missy and Margo. So they come in and Kimmy came in to see something. And Missy tries to be kind of bitchy. She's like, "Hello." And Kimmy's like, "Oh gosh, while I heard from a little birdie that maybe, maybe a magpie." But Missy's upset. I just don't know why. I am biseter. Well, I just haven't the time for

life or two short. So I'm just going to try to have a good time. So they head up stairs for the artistic experience. And Dev comes out in his robe. And he drops in. They all start to paint. But Mark is like clutching his pearls. He's like, "You wouldn't think so." But I'm not a great believer. Unless he is more as evidence by the entire apartment, right? Let's do the more coverage. The first Prudish gay we've ever had on Bravo.

Ever. This is the first gay this time. Oh, yes. Come here. Come back. Yes. You know.

This is the first one. It's like, "Oh my god, new duty. I can't." I would never.

So Emma, Emma is like, "I'm having a panic attack." And she just keeps saying, "Keep calm, carry on. Let's go. Keep calm, carry on. Let's go." Look at me. Entirely at assaults. I apologize everyone for being so loud and crazy. Oh goodness. I can't. It must be all over my face. I'm just ravaged with emotion right now. I apologize. I'm sorry everyone.

Mike is like a spammer keeps calling me. So I'm just picking up the fun and dialing numbers into their face.

“You should be like, "Hi, Stammer. People are either fountains or drains. What are you?"”

Over it. It's like over and over. They keep calling me. And then I say, "Hello." And they just hang up. So now I'm just going to say that when they're face. Why are you even spamming? Thank you, Mike. Because Mike is like, "I'm not approved. I'm definitely not approved." Florida, Mike is delighted. This is on the bucket. Let's hold on. Over and out. This is Mike, a calling, Dara. Dara, there's a naked man here. Hello, Dara. Are you there?

Do you remember me? Is Florida, Mike? Anyone? Dara? So they're all talking about what it's like to see a winner. Like, "Oh, my gosh." And Mark was like, "Oh, here, Amanda." And they call it a willy. They're very demiore. Well, I'll say it. That's a cock. And Missy's like, "Cook a Rico!"

And Mark was, "I believe it's commonly referred to as an appendage." So then he grabbed some flowers and put some flowers on his easel. And he's like, "Look, I'm going to paint the flowers. They're in the view. I don't have to look at the willy. I'm not getting aroused. Please, everyone, don't look at me. I'm not getting flushed.

Keep the emotions in. The emotions in." Have you not seen a penis before darling?

But I don't believe I have been acquainted with how you can always close rise then.

All right, then, close rise, Mark. Oh, are you still talking? Do you give up to you?

Mark was so massively attracted to Dev. That's what was happening here. And he was like, "I can't possibly be attracted to this man. This poor man, literally poor man, I mean, is in a lower class. I cannot." He was clearly into Dev, which is why he was. So, like, "I can't look. I mustn't look at Dev. But you know."

“Oh, can I be expected to paint someone when I don't even know their lineage?”

Yeah, that's exactly what he was thinking. But wow, he was hot for Dev. So, Kimi goes around with touching paintings. And they're actually all fairly decent. I'm so right. Like they all do them really differently. Um, a lot of he keeps telling us she's like an actual artist because she went to art school. Oh, okay. So her is just pretty good. But everyone else is doing kind of impressionist type things.

But they're all actually good, which is weird. Do you never see that on these shows?

Except for Kimi's. Kimi does probably the most offensive one. She just draws his dick. But she does it with, like, greenish brown paint. And then she does it in these kind of swirls. And it looks like job of the hat. It looks like job of the hat. And he looks at it and I'll put it on the copy. She shows Dev and Dev's like, um,

“this looks down at his dick. Like, really? He didn't like it.”

Martha goes, "Kimi, I must say you have made him look like he's a good course of penicillin. It's easy." And it's green. Missy goes, "I hate her. But she is funny." So Kimi's like, "Well, they're all exceptional. But I have to say the most great of the bunch is Martha's. Martha's no really mine. Kimi's like, "Yes, I love how she put him standing towards the side and Marcus. But that's just where she was standing." He's like mad. He didn't win with his flowers.

Martha is the winner. Martha, there you go.

Like, "Oh, I've finally won something here. I'll take my ID. Dev, take it. Just take it."

A lot of his mad. Lot is like, it would be too obvious to choose mine. 'Cause you know, oh, choose the one that's been drawn by the girl who went to art school. And by the way, it's pregnant. You know, the other's gonna have to go. Fine. Lot he was mad. Lot he was like, "I didn't pay 400,000 pounds. Just to go to art school and not be complemented after cheap, nude painting session." Oh, good. So this is officially over now. We can retire.

So they go downstairs to have some food and drinks and stuff. And Emma's like, "Oh, there's so many bowls on the table. There's a little fried bowl of something everywhere we turn." Well, I love bowls. After we have the Debbie Downer party, I just wanted to laugh a little drink a little and I don't know, draw peanuts. And that's exactly how it's done. Well, ladies, I hope everyone's having a nice time. And it's such a good, it's good thing the sun is out today

makes those bananas taste better on my mind. Oh, so Missy gets up and she's just like, I'm gonna, she best is like, can we go have a talk? So they put, they go after the side. And everyone's watching and Martha's thinking, "I'm thinking, I don't want, I don't want to be here. I ain't conflict. I'm laying just to get really drunk and keep my head down." All right, Missy. I've heard through the great void and that you're a little bit upset.

“Quite. I'm quite upset. Yes. Yes, I'm quite upset. I'm quite upset. It's like, "But why?" Really?”

I don't understand why. Are you joking? Why? No, you're joking. This time. So just tell me what you're going to say because I am a little shocked. Oh, okay. You know, I spoke about my brother. Yes. And that is really sensitive subject for me. I've well, okay, but wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Let me stop you there. I'm not apathetic towards a situation. I've had horrible situations happen in my life,

but what I do have a problem with is there's very sad situations thrown on people that you don't really know that well. She was exactly, I mean, exactly. Let me go. You start. You said it

because it is a big topic in my life that I apparently never talk about to anyone except for

right now for the first time at the wine tasting. She was all right. But do you think that's appropriate at a wine tasting? Well, we're being served bulk a month. Yes, it is not wrong. She goes, "But it's not an AA meeting." Oh, it was great. So Margo is like, "Oh, look at them over there. She's doing a lot of use here and I never think hands are moving. Oh, oh, this is not an apology." Margo is, "It's Kimmy. It's not going to be an apology." So we go back.

And Mrs. Like, "This is me, a way of getting to know people." No, that's not a way of getting to know people. It's not. Of course it is. No, that's not a suck people's energy. It's what it is. And I got triggered because what you started with started all fluid stories, is not everybody's got a shot brother. Everybody's bleeding out of their eyes by the end of that

Cut flashback. A lot of being like, "My dad has cancer. Martha, my sister died, my suicide. The waiter being like, "My car got a flat tire." They're like, "Oh, good. I mean, it's not wrong to be in touch with your emotions. But why would you use something someone says to be like, "Oh, she's no, no, no, don't start that." You say it's a sob story. He's a drug dealer, whatever you said. No, no, no, no, no. We'll muggle with there. She knows

“fuck, Margo. That's what I say. It's fuck, Margo."”

Margo's like, "I just don't know. They're watching still. Margo's like, "I just don't like her tone. Why she yelling at Missy? Well, look at how hard Missy will fight to not address an issue is right." She's like, "Yeah, but she's being rude. Martha, Martha goes. Gimmy's had a very tough life. She's triggered when someone has talks about it because Gimmy's not going to do the therapy. That's not Gimmy. Gimmy's going to party with you, life."

Yeah, but then that means we all have to do whatever Gimmy wants. No, it doesn't. By you, by you insisting on telling dramatic stories all the time, you're trying to force everybody. It's like to do what you want. It doesn't have the emotions that you wanted. So you want her to have those emotions, or you're going to make sure that somebody can frontier about it. And then you're going to go for their and confront her about it because she

didn't react the way that you wanted. You're the one trying to force us, not her. Can we never

said anything about it to you? She never said don't bring this up. You guys are the ones making this a big deal. Yeah, some Martha's like, "Yes, she was insensitive, but Gimmy's not going to back down when confronted. It's like getting cross with the dog. She's shooting on a sidewalk.

“It's what they do, you know. They just shoot on a sidewalk. Or if you have them in your house,”

if they shoot on your house, or if you have them out, they shoot on your house, or if you have them out, by they shoot on the dog, would then shoot on your house. A lot of shit you can happen in my house. What I'm trying to say?" Yeah, so Martha's like, "Oh my God, should I step in?" And a lot of girls, "Oh no, to them? No, don't go over there. Don't do it!" She goes, "Okay, then you go then. I'm just kidding. I'll go." I mean, obviously, I'm just going to try and diffuse it.

So she goes every day to do this. And she says Kimmy's chosen friends that won't call her on her shit. And so when she's around people who call her out, she can't cope with it at all. Oh, she can cope with you just fine lady. Have fun! More than a lot of people are going to do. We're just going to sit and drink. I just

never talk about topics. You don't give me like, "Oh, that's a great idea. I'll find

a way I'm finally on the same page." So wait a minute. You're asking me to set what the group of girls from the wine tastes, sing and share. No, this is normal. It's not normal how people can make fun of that shit. Just oh, wow, wow, wow, rewind. There was no making fun. I would there was no making fun. And then you get to the car when she says, "Oh God,

people opening up too much..." But you did make fun of it. No, I did. And I just did a fixed door, which I think we all laughed at. You know, it's just like funny. You miss you like, "Y'all do you want?" She goes, "Oh God, Kimmyrgal, is that what you said? You said that I made fun?" Marko goes, "You said,

“it's just what happens when you're involved with drugs and you should get over it."”

Oh, so what? She would be like, "So what?" She would be like, "It's so what?" So what did I said that? Okay, that's not mockery. When I tell you, I was not laughing. I was cheering in my house, because listen, if I said something nasty and I was confronted,

I'd be like, "Listen, I'm so sorry. I never should have said that."

And she's been done with it. But for her to actually stick up for herself and be like, "No, you bring this depressing shit to a wine tasting and ruin it." And I'm not going to apologize for it. It's bullshit for you to bring it up. And that she just keeps going, and she just keeps going so hard for it. I was like, at the very least, you've got to applaud the confidence in this person.

Because this is crazy. Yeah. So she goes, "So what?" I said. So what she does is take what Margot does. And she takes something, and she manipulates that. And she stirs it around in her little cold room, or, and it makes it into something that gives us some attention.

I don't need to get attention. And Margot was like, "Kimi Murdoch, you do everything for attention. You are the loudest little person I've ever met. You're like a pint-size pop-eye for attention." And Margot is like, "Oh, Margot, fuck up, Margot. You're a fucking bitch of what you are." And by the way, just get your finger out of my face.

She's, "Oh yeah, bring it on. Bring it on, Margot." So Margot was like, "Well, I kind of feel like we should be wearing a blue vest right now." But I also feel like, "Was that try not made that analogy in the presence of Missy?" But I also feel like I'm really in a feel for anything to say in this situation. Oh, I guess you really don't say that. Yeah.

So Margot was like, "Well, Missy doesn't want to have a drink on her. Missy doesn't want to have to drink her way through her feelings." "Oh, well great." "Oh, so I'm glad that I'm sitting with a bunch of people that are so in tune with her feelings." "Oh, God, don't look at harm, Missy. Look at me. Look at me."

And Margot was like, "Wait, what am I looking at exactly?" "I'm looking at a heartless, mean, cold, bitter woman." And she was, "Oh, well, Margot, tell me exactly what I said then." "Tell me." Just like, "Do you not remember?"

She's like, "Well, why don't you have another drink?"

“And I'll tell you ten more times, while I would love some.”

Blong to Blong, please. And she goes, "Well, why don't you have another drink?" "Well, she goes, "I don't drink." Oh, yeah, even though that which is why you get to be so, so, so, so far I just now. You can't win your argument so you're going to call somebody a drunk.

Because you're that fucking wink. I hate when people do that. Like, "Oh, really? Why don't you have another drink?" "I'll get out of here. I'm not the one who couldn't handle it." Margot's like, "Yeah, Margot's like, you know, when you're clear-eyed and sober,

and American, some people look different, and some people look the same, and I've only seen one side of Kimmy, straight vodka with no eyes." I'm like, "I don't see the problem here, so far." Well, Amen. 90% of us would order that over the fucking glass of, you know, off-brand period your ass is.

I know, Missy's like, "The subject is very close to my heart, and if that was to talk for you, and the tension's leaking, it's just, "Well, it was dark." It was dark. I love that Kimmy is like, "Yes, it was. You're correct." Thank you for acknowledging my feelings on this. It really upset me. Well, it upset me too.

Oh, it upset you? Just, "Yeah, dead." I wasn't trying to belittle anything about the death of her brother, or I thought it was inappropriate at a wine case. He just got such deep, dark, sea issues. There's a place for that, but that wasn't a place for it.

So, Mike is watching, and she's like, "I don't think the Himmmy said it to her, and I really don't. I know, there's nothing. Of course, no medicine is, and not it goes." And not everyone's the same, you know? Some people might want to share things, and some people might not want to. For instance, something I'd like to share. So, I'm pregnant.

“Well, you know what, I think you're jealous, because I'm speaking about my stuff, just,”

"Oh, y'all, so jealous." Yeah, and because you don't want to share anything about your side, she goes, "Okay, you know what, this is not going anywhere." Let's just go. And it can be good. You guys are total bitches. My love, Mike.

So, they all get up and missy's like, "I let Kimmy. I thought we could actually be friends. She's not trying to hold accountability for what she said, though. She's trying to put it on Marco, and I just think I really do deserve an apology. So, they all get together at the table again, and Kimmy's like, "Well, Mark, I'm an alcoholic apparently, and I'd like to raise a glass of champagne, please."

Blonde, blonde. They called me an alcoholic, "Can I please get another drink?" So, there we are, darling, got your service. I'm sorry, honey, I see you're talking, and Lottie's checking on her, and Missy's like, "Oh, my God, she's so in her ways. I'm like, you know what? You're not even worth it. You're not worth it."

Well, you want to talk about deep things, darling. You can call me. And she's like, "Exactly." So, Martha's like, "Oh, Kimmy is she's upset. Look, she's upset." Well, I am not apathetic to what happened to her, you know? Like, if she wants a banana, I'll give her a banana. I'm like, "Man, what else do you want me to do?" Yeah, but what you said with apathetic, "Well, Marco, that's your interpretation of it."

"All right." I think Missy's appalled in the much bigger chastity, I mean, Marco Maddoclad and made it into something now that makes me look like a bad person, and both just a really bad chauze movie on her part, really ball chauze ball, Marragal. Well, I guess I should say something to Missy. So, you know what? I'm going to say something.

So, she goes outside where Missy is and she's like, "Missy, let me just say something to you.

I would never intentionally hurt you from something that happened to your brother.

And I'm the most sensitive person about these things. Ask the extinct bird that's spined me. Look, I apologize if you felt I was being insensitive, 'cause you can say what you want. But I think when you say certain things, just yeah, but you know what, it is who I am, and it's not certain things about people. Okay, it's just who I am. I'm really sensitive. I'm one of the most sensitive people you've

ever met. So, you know, when you're going, "Wow, wow, wow, brother, brother, brother, brother, blah, blah, blah, blah, and boring as all to tears," just remember I'm being quite sensitive about it.

“Well, then that too you are and that's how I am. And she goes, "Okay, then we just have to”

disagree to a greater disagree." And she goes, "Well, I don't think it's cool." She goes, "Well, listen, I'm not going to say, "Well, I don't like to think it's cool either." It'll like, "Tell me if I can't say that I don't want to set it a lunch party that's very dark." And I apologize about her share feelings, but that's who I am. I'm so glad she's sticking to her guns. Missy, she is giving, she's saying she's sorry for your brother, but she doesn't like that you

brought up a huge, made a huge lunch of dark thing. You guys sat in a car for three hours to get this fucking lunch and then you made it a big soft vest. You know, that's right. The whole three hours, that's a good point. Three hours to make a soft vest, to rally around and sob when you tell them to. I'm not your fucking dancing monkey, babe. Sorry. I don't know you.

You also like waited into the, like, that's such a good point. I feel like we never really

talked about how the three out, like when you sit three hours in traffic and you just want some wine afterwards. And then this person comes in and just like, "I'm going to turn this into

get drunk. We're here to party party party." So Missy is like, "It does such a tragedy in my life. Don't you have feelings towards another person and the grief?" Because you're asking your

“basically saying, "You have to stop having fun and give me your feelings right now." You're using”

it as a weapon at this point and it's a gross. You know, you used it as social capital before and now you're using it as a weapon. Stop, just stop. So, Kimmy, it's just like, "Whatever!" It's just way if she's like waves her off and goes back to the table. And so Martha's like, "Oh, you okay, Missy?" And she's like, "I'm fine. I just want to go home." So Kimmy tells Mark, "Oh, God, I made my name made out to be the fucking villain on my way there." "Great, good for me."

"Are you okay?" The Kimmy's just, "Oh, I want to fuck down." He's like, "No, Kimmy, no!" She's like, "Well, I was not trying to be a main." A lot of goes, "But you have upset her, though." And perhaps even the baby that I have, 'cause I'm pregnant." She's like, "Well, I don't just like, or I just found it heavy, that's all." Yes, but now she feels like you've had to go with her for sharing something when she was vulnerable. Well, you know, how she started getting in my face.

You know, so whatever, so then Mark goes to Missy and he's like, "All sensitive, he's kneeling by her car and he's holding her hand." And he's like, "You know what?

“The only thing I would say for her is it's not making fun. It's making light of something”

that I think is very close to her home." And this is something else, you know, and they're kind

of mentioning it except nobody's listening. You know, all the people who know Kimmy are basically

saying, "Listen, Kimmy grew up in Haiti." Like, she's got some stories. Like her dad was involved in God knows what. She's got a lot of stories. Lord only knows, we can guess what they would be about. And she's got a lot of trauma and pain that we know about. And when she blows things off, it's because she doesn't want to be dragged into a place where she's sitting there sobbing, talking about her own traumas. She just, some people like to just

move on with their lives and not wallow in the drama. And some people don't, you know. So he's like, "It's not being her. It's not her being insensitive. It's almost this is her being overly sensitive." In a way, you know. So Ladi is like telling Kimmy inside,

“like, "But you couldn't you just said, I didn't mean it that way. I'm sorry." But I did. I did say that.”

I mean, I'm fucking sad at it. Like, it's like, "But she said you didn't even say sorry. Oh, I did. I did in the end. I was trying to be nice." And I realized, like, you know, whatever, like, but like, I'm just like saying that like some people are different. And so Mark is still talking

to Missy and he's like, "Well, maybe you'll never see I too are." Exactly. It doesn't really matter.

Okay. It's like, "Thank you, my love." Please take your emotions and go somewhere else. We're going to go back to drinking and laughing. He is good, though. What's interesting about Mark is he tries to do this whole, like, "I have no feelings whatsoever." But then he's actually super sensitive to everybody, which is weird. Like, he never once really agreed with Kimmy. It was like, "Oh, I know. Isn't it awful?" People sharing, like, he didn't really go in with her. He just

listened to her and laughed, but then he can still be sensitive to the other people. "It was pretty impressive. I'm liking Mark." Yeah. I like him. And then Martha, I mean, while they're still talking about how everything went left, and Martha is, "Yes, but then South Carolina got involved, I was like, "Whoa." I was like, "I love that, like, that not so subtle. I'm not really bad Americans." And she's like, "Well,

I was like, "But, Charles, what are you doing here? Oh, I don't fucking come on, Mothwrote." Well, you know, she is a punk, but she's a legendary punk. And they just look like, "Whoa!" That was the end. Well, thank you, everyone, for being here. Another tremendous episode of Ladies of London, a great way to end the week. Have a great weekend, and we will see you back on Monday with some more watch or crap ends. We have a crappy hour. It's going to be on Monday,

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