#3273 Married To Medicine S12E15: A Friendship on Life Support

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I just had a breakfast burrito, that was delicious. So, I can't think of a better way to start the day. Today we're talking marriage medicine. Try them for a reunion episode. You know, you sit through the awful couples trips episode,

three in a row, or nothing happens, but then you get to the promised land of the marriage medicine reunion, and all is forgiven, am I right? So, we are talking about that today.

- Truly. - Truly. And in fact, when they show clips of the season on the reunion, I'm like, wow, what a great season. I'm like, you know, it really would have been a great season

that they just condense the couples trip down to one episode, or even two, just to cut the fluff and just get to the good stuff. - Anyway, today's an awesome issue though, every year. I feel like I feel like every year of the show,

the season starts off, and people like this, this is the best season ever, this show so good. We're also excited, and then by the end, it's like, oh, for Christ's sake.

“I don't know, maybe it needs fewer episodes, you know?”

I'm a big proponent of 12 episode seasons. I'm a huge fan of a 12 episode season. And this one was close, it was only 14, but that would have gotten rid of most of that couple's trip. So, but you know, it also is a reminder

of what a good cast this is this show, like the core cast on this show is just magic. And every time we have a reunion, you are reminded that these are pros here. - Absolutely. - Absolutely today.

- Well, they are so funny, and it's like, I'm also, like, this has been around for a long time, and there's just so much backstory here. And, you know, I felt off of it the past like two seasons, I think it was, two, two, three seasons.

I was like watching it half-watching, and I'm really actually happy to have returned to it. You stuck, you took with it, like full, you were full in it the whole time. I had like a little bit of a, a little bit of a break,

but I'm so happy to have been back in it, even with that deadly couples trip, because this reunion reminds us, like it's so good. But they also, it is like a show

that does kind of hit the same notes over and over again. Like, oh, it's another reunion, or Simone has arrived in.

She's hot, and she's declaring that she's never gonna be friends

with someone ever again. It's like every year, this happens. But anyway, before we get into that, - It's another one. - It's another one. - Evan Lee, we're more Jackie, this year,

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married to Medicine, season 12, episode 15.

- Reunion, a part, who won, mmm, mm, mm, mm. So people are arriving at the New York City Studios and heavily announces, she's like, "My voice is worse from campaigning, but I'm gonna hang with the girls.

"I'm gonna horse voice, I'm so much campaigning. "You do a lot of campaigning." - I'm sure it is, Ralph, would you campaign like this? - Your mama, your mama won't flow into this bitch. - Dr. Heavenly Times, what's your stance on global warming

and whether we should pivot towards green technologies? - Your mama, your mama's your closer legs.

“That's what I think about global warming.”

- I'll tell you about a green technology. - Your mama's a green technology. That's really weird to say about that. - So, quad is, you know, excited. - It's season 12, married to Medicine, reunion, ego.

- Simone is getting her makeup done, and the makeup artist is like, "Oh my gosh,

"this is the first time you and Jackie

"have and share the room in five years. "It's like the five year itch. "She's ready to mind with Jackie again." - Yeah, she's like, "Well, I think as my friend "of almost 30 years, if you can't stand up

"for me and speak the truth, then are we even friends?" And then we see that something happened, which was that on Watcher Happens Live. Jackie was, Andy was asking Jackie about the whole situation with Heavenly and did Simone push her.

And Jackie basically was like, "Well, you know, "I wasn't there." And he was like, "Yeah, but you saw the footage." She's like, "Well, I don't really know "how to use a TV."

“So I'm not sure really if I saw the footage”

or was it just a reflection of me on the screen. - I have a husband who still drives a PT cruiser, and he I don't understand technology. - Thank you. - Which was pretty weak of Jackie.

I can understand Simone being pissed off of Jackie. That's simple to it, because she did not get physical now. As is kind of pointed out later, she didn't get physical, but it still got to the point after the arm toss or whatever you would call it, the arm removal,

the hand removal from her arm. It did get into such a bad fight that they had to be physically separated, but they weren't. I just, and the only reason I bring,

and I know that there's huge difference in fighting and spouting off and getting physical. Obviously, legally there's a difference. There's a difference, so I'm not saying there's not. It's just funny how Simone is like,

"I am a professional." Yeah, but you still had to be peeled off somebody. So, but you know, I do get the physical is what makes it. - So, yeah, I would have been pissed of Jackie too. - I would have been pissed too.

I don't know if I would have thrown out the friendship over it, but I would have been pissed. So, yeah, Simone is like, she's just like upset that Jackie was staying neutral. And then, Missy Jackie is getting ready and quasi there,

and she goes, "Well, I see that you've got you in a cumbersome situation." Like, cumbersome, that's like, "Sure, I guess it's okay." It's like, "Is she doing manual labor right now?" I'm not sure. So, Jackie's like, "I've been there before, and you survived."

It's like being in surgery, surgery, and it's up to your on national TV, and you're just dealing with your friend being cranky. But yeah, you're much like surgery. - So, we got a heavenly, and she's like,

"Well, she says she saw her by Simone, and Simone is unfollowed her, and then I saw the blog, and she saw a blog where Simone said that you chose the devil. "You know what I'm saying?

"I mean, come on, Simone's got to do the most. "I'm not a devil. "I'm not a devil. "I'm heavenly. "Havenly times."

- Well, and then Andy goes checking on Jack, and he's like, "Well, you're supposed to be in the room "with your friend." - Just, I'm sad. - And I don't like thinking that I heard her.

- Well, you and I had the conversation on WatchRap is live, which was so funny, God God. And she's a doctor, she has a reputation. She has a practice, which is why I press the issue on live TV.

“And I think it's about what you did and say, right?”

- Oh, my God. - Oh, my God. - Andy coming in as if you didn't stir up this whole mess. Yeah, exactly.

And I like the Andy's like, well, here's what I think.

It's what you didn't say. Okay, now I'm gonna go stir with her. So then he runs off to her to Simone's room, and he's like, "S Simone, this is deep." And I'm talking is someone who's a dad.

I've got children. Well, you saved me from a divorce once, and I don't know if you can help me again. I'm like, "This is worse than what you were dealing with, "with Cecil, please, this I'm sorry."

- I love Simone, I think she's great. I think she's every right to be pissed at Jackie, but like when you start acting like,

I just think it's just too much.

Too much to do that.

“- But that Simone, you know, she gets upset”

and that's it. She's like a cut-a-moth, cut-a-moth kind of a girl. But the thing is on these shows, Andy has made it a very big stance in the past few years, that if you guys can't make up, then that's it.

Like he did it with Jersey, he did it with, well, I don't know if that was New York's problem. Probably like straight up problematic behavior was New York's problem, but we've seen it happen on the shows

where if you can't be friends, then you're out, like, or we're gonna pause the show or whatever. So this is dangerous because now Simone is like, have to forecast, you know, it's two people that she doesn't wanna talk to you.

- Yes, not good. - And everybody's putting all of your hopes on Toya to be there for you. Toya's a Toya'll turn. - Toya's a turn, yeah.

- Yeah. So Andy's like, well tonight, we're calling in 911 and the ladies from Mary to Madison are reuniting. So then we get the trailer, and now everyone comes to stage.

“And the stage is the stage or is it a landing?”

Because they've set up the stage to look like the staircase at the Met Gala, which is a tribute to the Met Gala, except of course the Met Gala looks nothing like this

because it continues in the story to history of Bravo shows that try to stage a fake Met Gala and look nothing at all like the, you know, the Met Gala in New York City. And of course, something you have Salt Lake City

when Mary Cosby had her Met Gala luncheon at Vultures. And there was a red carpet out on the dirties now. So yeah, this one has crosses everywhere, you know, like medical crosses. It's like how to earn all over the walls.

I just want to go house for free bandits. It looks like a red cross. It's weird. So Jack, there was something sorry. There was something so jarring about the fact

that this was like made to look like a giant staircase. Like they were just on an enormous landing, but there were stairs above them and stairs below them. And I felt like we were in transition. Like it didn't feel like we were like seated somewhere

if that makes it. Like right on the way up or on the way down, which I guess is, but also being like really tiny people on the way up.

Yes, it's like, yes, the incredible shrinking woman

like going up or going down. No, it was just stop on this step and have a reunion. It was all red. It just was sort of wacky, you know. It reminded me of some of those Salt Lake City reunions

where they made this how it looked like, you know, the place that you stand in line and that doesn't even land. To get you ready for parts. The Caribbean or something, you know. It's like really doesn't abide.

Well, of one thing these ladies know how to deliver. It's high-passion and high blood pressure, milk it. Okay, good to see you Dr. Jackie. You vaccinated for drama tonight. Wow.

She's like, I am, I am double toasts. Like, oh, I'm sorry, under the new administration. You've just lost your medical license, but it was a metaphor. No, no vaccines land whatsoever.

I'm sorry. Okay, Dr. Evan Lee, will you be bragging to think Diplomacy tonight? She's like, "My own pussy." So, you lost your medical license.

No, Diplomacy. (laughing) (laughing)

So, you basically just goes round and says,

"Hi, everybody." And Toya gets first seat, which is, you know, of course, it goes to her head right away. She tries to lead the entire reunion. Yeah.

And she's like, the set looks breathtaking again. The, I love the, I was able to inspire the people. (laughing) Yes, Toya. Everyone said, you know what?

We need a set that, that is speaks of Toya Bush Harris. Let's get up on just dear cases. If you were inspiring the people, it would be a U-Hall. Just the bell and writer truck. So, Jackie's like, "Well, Toya did have a good leader."

And he's like, "Oh, wow, we're gonna fight over that." He's like, "Oh, now it's so you wanna clip the spot. You wanna try to take my little bit of art, my little bit of art, my little bit of art, my little God will." (laughing)

And so then Andy's like, "Whoa, okay, well, okay. Simone, you brought me some earplugs tonight. It is right, it's the right one that I'm gonna be popping in, right?" (laughing) Oh, that was kind of you.

- Hi, Dr. Mimi. - She's like, "Hi, this is reunion Mimi. I'm ready to rumble." "Reunion Mimi, strapped in and ready."

“And did Joya try to sell you a ticket to get on the reunion stage?”

(laughing) That wasn't bad. (laughing) Oh, so, yeah, Mimi's like, "Take it, donations, whatever she wanted, whatever she wanted."

So, we say, "How to quad?" And he asks her, "If blonde have more fun, "because she's a blonde today."

"I have fun every day in my life, though, every day. "I demand fun. "I'm quad, non-combo, some quad." (laughing) - That's right, you do.

And hey, speaking of fun, it's America's fun. It's really, really star, Dr. Cadessa. Any predictions for tonight? Well, a stormy night ahead, but at least it's gonna be a beautiful war

because everybody looks amazing.

Okay, that meant nothing. Okay, I was really surprised. When I walked into Simone's room today and you and Jackie were not sharing,

“as I think you've done almost every single year.”

It's almost as if someone cute had one of you on the stage and kind of destroyed your relationship, right? (laughing) I needed Jackie and she failed to deliver. I am an unborn baby still, Andy,

and I just wanted to be in a room by myself. - I am a pizza that's lost in a domino's truck. - I am undelivered. - So I am an unkept promise, Andy. - He's like, okay, well, we'll get into it a little later.

- Well, why'd you bring it up then? - I know. - I am every parcel and FedEx ground. - Sorry, I had to get that in. (laughing)

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which gets right at a great scenario. - Yeah, rightly so. - I just had to go pick one up at my neighbor's house. - Oh God, those bitches, not your neighbors. - Every time I'm telling you every fucking time.

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- This is in Toyota put down roots in a brand new home with a giant cherry blossom tree planted in her closet. But as Eugene branched out to a long business career, Toyota went out on a limb to run this year's mad gala,

trees and leaves everyone and further more sap and twigs. - True puns. - Why do you keep calling her Toyota? - Toyota, I'm saying Toyota, but my anti-inverse nation adds the Toyota.

- Because I'm affordable and reliable. - How dare you? - She would be so pissed if you called her Toyota. - She doesn't want to be at least make her a Lexus.

- Toyota is actually an amazing nickname for her Toyota.

To get out of the camera, she's just, so now I don't think she says reliable is that, just maybe a Toyota. She's like a Toyota, I don't know,

“I don't know, Toyota is actually all reliable, right?”

- He like I cannot, that's a Toyota. - Not as easy as FedEx ground is it. - No, but Toyota is a just to, because she thinks, I think the this would be something along the lines of like, you know,

you think you're a Rolls, but you're really just a Toyota or something like, I don't know, but like, you don't have to work Shump out, you know? - So of course we ask if Toyota, damn it, see if Toyota is still in the same house.

- Oh, if Toyota is still in the same house, and she's like, where else am I going to be? And he's like, well, you have had many homes. And she's like, paid for a ball. I purchased for the ball, I purchased the ball, Andy.

He's like, okay, well, I'm not wishing the owner shit, okay. - And then Lee, this toy is forever all. - And she's like, no, then this is called forever a bitch. But no, she'll sell it in a few years and get a profit and probably move to a condo buyer self somewhere,

and they're like, what? And God like, why, oh, so did I say that?

- I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - Well, Engel from wood, Galavonia said, maybe if Toyota treated Eugene with more respect, he wouldn't well spend all that time on the road. - Okay, as a Toyota, who, let's go places,

as an a new house, I just want to say,

“I think that some people are projecting like the other,”

like the people on that side of the couch, she doesn't have a clue what's going on in my room. We don't get all our all the time, but it happens, that I think it happens when everyone's households, so I'm Toyota.

- Well, you said, Simone, you said, Toyota's skip a day of work party was actually like every day for Toyota, she's stand by that, she's like, I stand by it, Toyota has a great life, she keeps a macular in house and keeps it up well, Andy,

and no one would be able to go there and say it needed, pressure watching, and so we flash back to arriving, like pressure watch your house, bitch. (laughing) Except for God about it.

- Oh, never heard. Listen, the pressure watcher baby, they've got the pressure watcher out there, cumbersome pressure watcher, all right. Well, three in from tape says,

"Poia, you said some women love watching you and Eugene "a argue while misrepresenting their own relationships." So what do you mean by that? - Well, I just think that it's like very easy for certain ladies to deflact,

'cause like you haven't seen any cheating in my relationship, and my husband's not telling me he doesn't trust me with my son. So let's stop with the shenanigans, 'cause I think of one of the stages,

“honestly it's like out of my world of social.”

- It's the hell of it, you haven't seen cheating. You've just seen my husband finding jobs further and further away, so he doesn't have to ever be home. So leave me alone, and go from wood. And haven't he's like, "Well, but if you wouldn't put it up there,

"we wouldn't have anything to say, Toyota." She's like, "Well, unless you want Toyota "to start telling everybody's secret." She's like, "Oh, go ahead, go ahead, please. "Open the book for everyone, open the book, Toyota,

"because there's a book that hasn't been opened "on Toyota's relationship as well." - And Toyota's like, "Really? "Well, let's talk about it that because I don't hold "legs to a day, but it told me about your husband."

She goes, "Oh, with really well, I had someone "on the campaign trail, tell me about your husband "and what he does in the hospital and why he was fired." I excuse me, stopped this reunion right now and tell me the gossip on both of these things.

Do you gene-cheated and did something bad in a emergency room? And what else happened? I need to know everything, please. - I do need to know, I need to know,

“because, yeah, 'cause Eugene has been sort of doing,”

I don't know, well, I don't know if he was fired or not. That's just heavenly saying shit, and she does make up stuff. But he has been sort of like,

I don't know, like, when we first met him,

he was in an emergency room, and then all of a sudden, he's like, no matter the blue. And then he's just sort of going around, place the place. So what is going on with that?

So we're having these, so I'm like, I'm like, "Well, let's do that." Yes, you're there, let's put it on the table. Ladies, if you're gonna stay out of everyone's relationship, make sure that flows all the way through Liberty Bomb.

- So it's like, yeah, my part. - Oh, River runs through it. - Alright, P, Robert Newman, Redford. Let the river run, the river wild, metal street, white river, rafting.

- That part, why do people fly what they fish? I don't even understand that movie. That movie was stupid. Now, Toya, I do have to say, you have spoken on people's marriages.

You spoke on my husband, and she's like, "Well, I'll only spoke Jackie after." You don't anything I've spoken about. Your marriage has been after you brought it to the table, and we had a conversation about it.

Even though this time, I had a plot line about your husband, making me sit on this lap, but whatever. (laughs) - There's no way Jackie is talking to the table. - Jackie is not going back to that can of worms.

Okay, she is hunting all of us to forget it. And it was Toya who just brought it up again on what happened live, and they showed all that. Like, Jackie did not open that one up Toya. You know, so then we see the clip of that.

We're Toya saying that Curtis has put his hands on multiple of the ladies' wastes.

And Jackie says, "Well, I've never spoken about Eugene

"and your disrespect to your husband." I mean, Jackie came out kind of swinging in this one. I was surprised, 'cause Jackie usually tries to not fight,

And so she's like, "Well, I've never spoken about Eugene

"and your disrespect to your husband." And she was, "Oh, okay, wow, okay." She was, and you know, and Toya goes,

“"Oh, wow, at that age, that age, look at that age."”

And she was, "Oh, well, it looks good on some of us." And she was, "In menopause, Toya, you understand "you're like a block away from menopause, right?" Like, "Come on." - Yeah, that's gonna be the next place she moves to.

So, Katya says, "I'm in menopause." Quarkas, "Toya, don't shame of the age. Don't eat shame, don't do it. "It's a cumbersome time for a lot of us." And she says, "Well, I'm about to be 50.

"I can talk about other drama walk." - Okay, Jackie, no one is coming to you about Gurdos like I could. - Jackie's like, "Okay, and nobody's coming to you." - Yeah, but Gurdos sat my husband down

and had a whole conversation, because as he should have, "No, no, he should not." Gurdos was the last one that she was talking to the other, but on about his mind, I'm like, "Toya, what are you talking about?" Well, I mean, I don't think Gurdos is anything great,

but I feel like Toya is not making great point here. - No, and don't throw age jokes when you live in a mademoiselle house, Toya. And also, yeah, Gurdos should not be talking to anybody's husband, but your husband is not the elected leader of this group either,

and I'm a little sick of Eugene walking around, you know, fucking lecturing everybody all the time, like he's the man of the house. He's not the man of this house, and he needs to sit his ass down

and stop getting a women's business. It's what I say, as a man sitting here spending two hours and women's business professionally every day.

- I have to say that I've always really adored Eugene.

“I think he's so adorable, I think he's cute,”

and everything, and you know, he's a doctor, it's great, and there are kids are so wonderful. But I have been this season reflecting on the fact that whenever there is an issue amongst the men's is, it's always kind of Eugene in the middle of it,

and I'm like, you know, you gotta wrote it. As certain point, you guys say, wait a second, wait a second Eugene, and then we have, well, I mean, I'm excited to talk about the Steve Sanders stuff that happens later in this episode,

because, you know, I have opinions on that. - Well, that's good, that's required. But yeah, you know, Eugene and Toya both kind of elect themselves as the leaders, like they think they're like the head of the show, and it's annoying.

So Andy asked Toya when she watched the footage from her party, her reaming Eugene out, what was her reaction? She's like, oh, it's horrible, I reacted, and I reacted poorly, and I was just so upset,

and they didn't even show, like, I locked myself with the closet, and I was spiraling. I don't want to spiral, especially about front of people that don't love my family. If I'm able to keep it back in all relationships

or it backing me, I just need somebody to say, would love, hey, Toya, you would a little far blue, they did, they also said that, and you were screaming at your husband, like a crazy person at that party.

You were acting nuts at that party. So for you to come on and lecture anybody about their husband or their marriage is crazy, Toya, it's crazy, Toya is crazy. Also when you say you locked yourself in your closet,

it doesn't, first of all, that doesn't have the same impact of when a normal person locked themselves in their closet, 'cause like, for any of us to lock ourselves in our closet, you're just like, oh, I went into this tiny confined space

surrounded by a little thing. For you, you went into a giant room with a territory inside, you just went into another luxurious space, and when you said you spiral, you probably just walked around the tree 10 times,

like, that was babbling. So, although she did lock herself and they're probably with Anila, because remember she was in the closet with Anila,

“which would make it more terrifying, I think.”

- Mainly of Anila's mom was there too. - The quad is like, well, we did speak to you. It's like, you'll do the quad, I love Nana. When you get into my closet, you do it spoke to me, Katasikos. And I'll say this, Andy.

I think we need to take a little bit of responsibility as well, because when that happened, a troop of friends would have said, okay, parties over, let's just go, no, no, you guys are all having fun. And Toy was having a freak out,

and this is what Toya does, she was having a tantrum, and what real friends do is say, well, fuck her, give me a margarita. - Yeah, I'm not leaving them open bar, and the food that's being passed by strippers,

I'm staying at this party. Toya comes to the closet all she wants to, and so me and me agrees with that. She's like, no, no, no, my question is, let's have a conversation, Toya,

because at that point, I did not do anything. I didn't do anything to you, she goes, you literally said, you with your husband,

oh, my God, I would never.

Yeah, because they would never, you were acting cray cray. - And Andy was like, but you said their marriage was cringe, it was giving cringe exactly. I mean, it's like, no, I said it was hard to watch,

and it was cringy, but you could have killed the little self, because well, I encourage marriage, but instead, you will say they're got the thing, then you stay at the watch more cringe. By the way, as if Toya doesn't do this all the time,

Toya who literally her other big storyline

with Bernard as if we even care.

“And now she's upset that while you're having a full on fight”

with your husband at the at a party, a big public party that's making it awkward for everyone, that Mimi said that it's cringe, and now you're upset at that when you have no problem, whatsoever commenting on everyone else,

whether it's Bernard, whether it's Curtis, whether it's like the guy who works at the UPS store, like whoever it is, you're commenting all the time. So you know what? This is just what happens.

Madam use the mouse, back in there. - Madam, it's all house. - I love Mimi, just thanks to her. - I encourage marriage. - That's so funny to me.

So she's like, "But instead you just stayed to go watch more cringe, if you were so crazy, why'd you stay?" She was actually, "I was the first one to leave Toya." She said, "Oh, 'cause you were the first one that was at, so leave that's why."

She just, "No, no, you, it's because you sat there and called us hating us bitches." - And heavenly's like, "Jesus!"

- I would never use language like that.

- I mean, it's like that is the true definition of projection. Well, Mimi, I could see right now. Oh, they, you're besled. You're besled. - But direct projection, deflection,

you don't own shit and that's your defense mechanism. - All right, you rhymed, we have to move on. Okay, things got a little too honest and raw over the group chat. When you haven't decided to talk to you about

Eugene's biggest lies again. (all laugh) - We'd see the text again. - Girl, I'm between patients, but I have to say this, my man loves me too,

but his dick big, so you're loving on some little shit. Let's go. - Real. We did nothing to a penis house. Did everything to do with her taking shots,

just like she did right now. - And Toya's like, "Well, little shot, it was about a purse. And when you went to my husband's penis, like you wanted to suck it,

I'm just trying to figure it out." And he goes, "Oh, boy." - It was a shot. You were saying that she has fake purses because she's poor, Toya.

That was a shot.

“And Toya's like, "You need to worry about your husband's penis”

because there's nothing bulletin through your husband's pants." - That means like, "Okay, okay." And that's only just because my man is from Barbados, bitch. (all laugh) - Dr. Jackie, you had Toya the lead

in throwing this year's Medgala, I guess we're just gonna move on from the penis stuff, which is shocking for me. - And he only likes to talk about boobs. - Like when he comes to all the penis talk,

he's like, "Oh, God, we're talking about that." "Okay, let's talk about Cadessa's boobs." - Well, to be fair, I think he would be down for the penis talk if it weren't like, trying to imagine daddy's penis.

It's like, "Oh, I don't really want the girl "damage penis." It's like, "Well, like, let's be honest." - So, I love all the talk. Like every time they accuse daddy of cheating,

I just think daddy is exhausted. Like that man, I can tell you right now that man does not have the energy to cheat. - No, he doesn't. - So, you gave Jackie, you gave toy the lead

in the Medgala, heavily said it was, to teach her a lesson, which lesson were you trying to teach, Toyota, and is she capable of learning lessons?

“- Well, when it comes to parties, that's the girl.”

And we thought that Toyota would definitely throw a good one, because as we all saw her central pay party when she yelled at her, husband and made it off with everyone, and we all left earlier, was nothing but a success.

So, you know, give her a larger platform. Toy has created lessons, watches. Toyota, if a train is going northward at 50 miles an hour, and another train is going southwards at 50 miles an hour, how fast are they going when they pass each other?

- Friends of stupid, I fly, I fly all the time. I'm not gonna think of fucking train. - See Andy? (laughs) - So Andy is like, "Well, so do I prove it herself?"

- And they all are actually all very complimentary, even heavenly, it's just like,

you can't see really amazing.

- So, and he goes, does that mean something to you that you're getting your heinous in the group? - It's a ton, a ton, a ton, a ton, a ton, a ton, but it doesn't advance the facts. - Oh God, here we go.

- That there was so much that I wasn't through to God, but God. - You were a woman, God, Toyota. - She's like, when you asked about the group chat, you know, I decided this beautiful, beautiful lab coat that you all gave me.

You see this group, I put the group chat on it. I put the group chat on it, okay? - So here's a late supporter for you, Andy. And Toyota has pulled, pulls out this lab coat with like screenshots of the group chat,

which is cool and theory, and I don't even know how she did that, but what it meant was that she couldn't really hold it up and like you couldn't really see the group chat, so it was just sort of like this floppy thing, and everyone was just sort of like,

"Well, that's pretty cool that you made this, it's totally not functional for the reunion, but like, cool, pop, cool, pop." - Jackie's like, "Wow, I love that lab coat. I now have group text lab coats by Jackie.

"Wait a minute." - Jackie's just gonna steal everybody's business. - She's very creative, not very bright, but creative. (laughs) Like when you see a child, child's just splatter paint on it,

and the rest of us just know, just keep. - That's Toyota. - So, yeah, no one's really into this because I can't read it.

“- And so, let's with gears, misquad down the handsome king.”

So, she put all her energy into IVS, but will they stop making room for each other? - What's well, so it's a lot of king, like low-key being an asshole. And then, Ambie asks if it's true

that they're no longer together, and it's true, they are no longer together. And it's quads says, "Live, happen, that in there." - Just awesome name of her new sitcom. Life happens, I'm three forms, starting this phone.

- With quads. - She thought he was the one, was the break-up mutual or not? And she's like, "You know, it was mutual. "We weren't doing very well towards the end of last year.

"We tried, but we couldn't get together "on some of the fundamentals." - Andy. - Yeah, and she's like, "Wells, "anyone of your been in touch with King?"

This is a trick question, 'cause I know it's three people over your abband, is anyone there?

- And so, they're basically the couch opposite.

Quad has all been into Toya, Contessa, et cetera, they all have been in touch with King. And Contessa's like, "Well, you didn't want him to be here." She says, "I didn't say that, Contessa." No, I'm asking, we're asking,

which is why I said it like a statement, right? - This is why I made it complete sentence. - And you're like, "Well, oh, so you're talking to my ex." And Toya's like, "Well, you know, "he looked out for Ashton for his birthday,

"which was the bathing, and we see that "he gave him a luxury card to drive around "on his birthday." So, of course, that's all it took for Toya. So, Toya's like, "Leve him.

"Leve him not. "Toya would have a fucking fit. "If she broke up with Eugene and people "still talk to that man." - Oh, she's crazy, I'm like, "One, of course we love King."

- It was a beautiful thing. And everyone in Atlanta was so appreciative when the six-year-old kid, the kid who just turned 16, was driving in three different lanes

in a Ferrari that was too hot for a person with experience of drives to drive. But yeah, he had a great time, you know? - Well, it was beautiful, you know, and y'all were from being so lovely, dummy,

and like, you know, then it was Quinty to watch. Oh, okay, so now that's okay. - Quinty, now that's okay. - You literally, like, you just said no word.

“- Gloria, Rosa, I think it's fucking hypocrite on this show,”

and I love it. She makes me laugh so hard. I just started laughing, which she called the Quinty, and didn't even know one said anything, and it like it didn't even register with her.

- I know. - Well, the relationship was good, and it was good, and then it wasn't, and it was not so good. It was over. Hard known, nothing stays the same.

But if you're willing to plead the game, it's coming home again, cumbersome. So someone said that now that Quinty King or no longer a thing, Heavenly decides to speak on it and spend the narrative that King was faking

the relationship for fame. But, Quinty needed a storyline too,

and Heavenly's like, I've never done that.

I've never said that, and Quinty's like, "Let me speak now, Heavenly, a storyline. I never come up with my storylines. I'm not doing that on off-season, trying to figure out what's next.

I don't want that type of anxiety on me, what I do is I go with what is currently happening in my life."

“- Yes, and what is happening in my life is that I”

was in a relationship with King, King, a man who's so thin, he probably thinks this song is about him. Don't you, don't you, don't you? - fame, I want to live forever. I want to learn how to fly.

- Fish, you want to learn how to fly fish, 'cause that boy was stupid. Haven't that movie. - Okay, we'll listen, anybody faking IVF for TV is crazy 'cause that's hard, and she's like, yeah,

why would I go through all these IVF shots in Ghana? - Yeah, we're no one who's allowed to film me. - Yeah, seriously, seriously. Why would you put yourself through that for TV? - You know, Tonya's still probably trying to think

about the answer to that question right now, as we speak. - Well, we'll do that. - Hmm, it's a good question. - So I haven't lived like...

- Except the longest Japanese theme song of all time. - In like 16 days.

- Wow, we've never heard that song get to the bridge.

- Toya, well done. - Another was a bridge. - That was a complete song, 30 seconds on. - So Heavenly says everything happened how it was supposed to,

if fertility struggles put strains on relationship. Yes, Andy, yes. We saw that Jackie's own relationship. So then Simone's like, I have a question, and you're more than welcome to say

none of my damn business, but if you and King could not decide on whose house to live in, or when you were gonna get engaged,

“or get married, why did John move forward with IVS?”

- And she's like, he's a great coperate. Even now, he doesn't live in the same household with his daughter and her mom,

and he's an amazing coperate.

She wanted a kid not to man. - She, exactly. He was in it to sneak bites of her fish. Literally, it wasn't trying to do it, but she had a minute like,

let all you've taken bites from her takeout. - Yeah. - And she was in it for a baby. And as a certain boy, they just didn't work out anymore. - Yeah.

- Well, so you were thinking more along the lines that even if this doesn't work out, I have an amazing sperm donor. I'm surprised that Simone's asking this question as someone who probably has encountered this many times

with her patients. Why is she sort of stumped by this? And Contessa says, well, it did seem to me as an outsider who threw an amazing birthday party for herself that maybe he lost interest

unlike the attendees at my birthday party,

“and he was just in it for you, like to support you,”

but not so much because you want a father that wants a kid. And like that's what it seems like, and he wasn't as interested in that journey as you were. So did I get that right? Are you going to yell at me?

- Yeah, Andy says, you know, you didn't seem to be on the same page. And she's like, well, I can only agree. I can only go on what we both agreed upon, which was we both decided without a gun to his head,

or without me pushing him off the bridge, without me having the car saying, I'm going to run you over without chaining him to a radiator and beating him with a wooden spoon, without threatening to put a banana peel on the ground

for him to fall down on Andy. - Without telling him to run off that cliff and he runs and runs, and then all of a sudden he realizes there's no more cliff below him, and he looks at the camera and falls down

at the grand canyon without even not happening. - Saying, beep, beep, the entire way. - Without Andy. - We're going to hit Andy. (laughs) - Without even doing those things.

We decided to go on this journey together, hope he'll be a puppy,

and I never wanted to neglect anything.

That had anything to do with him, and I've always put my best foot forward in a very, very fast way that I'm uncatchable, and I've devoted myself to that. - So when I heard he was not the same page,

I said, "Damn, where am I missing the mark?" - Were you upset? - Well, I said, "Where am I missing the mark?" - Does that mean you're upset? - I missed mark, I missed mark.

I knew a boy named Mark, I missed him. I missed Mark. - Did you miss Mark and Swerreus? - I got dibs on him first, to stay back. - Bitch.

(laughs) - Well, so what was next for you? Are you gonna try having your family so low? - And she was like, "I take it one day at a time, Andy." Having a baby's a lot like alcohol is a man-d.

Baby steps. - Hard to side of taking inspiration from the late Bonnie Franklin Reddoy going, "One day at a time, one day at a time, one day at a time, not at all." - Women have beautiful children without men all the time,

so stay tuned, says someone who doesn't want to have storylines, and just the haphazard. - I'll find my Schneider someday. (laughs) - So now, guys, are we needing some energy?

Let's bring Angel and Brandy to the stage. - Angel thought so much, but Brandy did a great job.

“I think Brandy has really warmed up into being a good.”

I mean, Angel's not bad either, but Brandy, I think was particularly good. - You know, I have to say I've really enjoyed Brandy all season long. I thought she was really funny, and she does like lots of funny facial expressions too,

and she seems like she's just like, she's kind of giving, like, woman of the people vibes, Greek chorus, you know, where she's kind of like, "What is going on with these crazy people?" And then I'm on this show with.

- And so I've really enjoyed that from her. - Angel's fine. - Angel's giving girl at lunch with aunties, and she's just trying to explain to them, like, you cannot say that.

You cannot say that right here in a loopy, it's an expect to get away with it, because I'm gonna call you out on the nante, you cannot talk like that, you know? (laughs)

- Yeah, her body. - Her eyes, she does this, the, her, she bulges her eyes, and she's also so amused when she gets into it with the contest in a few moments. I love that she doesn't get caught up in

at the entire time, she's almost like laughing, like, "Yeah, you did." - No, you did. - But it calls her mouth. - Yeah, it's great energy to have.

I hope she can stick with it. - So Selena, no, not that one, still RIP. From Luredo says, "We wanna know how an R&D

- Angel? - Angel, sorry. - And Angel's like, "Well, I started in the music industry, young, blah, blah, blah, blah." But I do have multiple degrees.

Thank you very much. Okay, well, Heavenly, you seem to surprise by Angel's dance moves. Were you insinuating that there was something nefarious about her background?

And she's like, "No, no, no, no, no, I just think she has her beautiful body,

“and I think she can use it in a lot of different ways.”

She could be a doctor, she could be a slot, actually, if I'm TV." And that's all I'm thinking, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, what you're taking from that? - "Wicked, y'all."

- Okay, Cynthia Arrivo on Twitter said, "Could Jessica crash y'all on Brandy because she had a plan to plan to birth the events for herself, and we won't brandy, as a man set up a birthday dinner for her ass and free.

Brandy is contested and invited to your next birthday party. And Brandy goes, "Well, as of right now, she's invited because her and I have had a couple of words. "Once I watched some of the stuff that she said

"that I couldn't hear at my party, "me and her had to have a little talk "because she knows I don't play about my husband. "Oh, and why are you on a press contest?" And confesses, like, "Well, I mean,

"nobody plays about their husband. "Just like, or talking about the fact "that I had a party, I didn't have a party. "I had a dinner, it wasn't a party." Which I actually appreciated that clarification,

even though she did, just say it was a party a second ago,

“because it was, it was just a dinner, as opposed to a party.”

So, it could necessarily need to relax about all that. - I guess, but this is a bone of contention now, 'cause contests is like you did, you did, and having to go, "Hey, what's a party?" And contests is like, "I didn't say anything.

"You did say something." That was wild of contests at that mic, or a contests I got all upset. Like, it was, yeah, about a dinner, and like, started dissing that,

like, dissing the husband for giving her a lame dinner. - Yikes. - Yeah, I like the husband just calls in to check in, and so then Brandy puts him up in front of her one, and was like, "Thank you for the dinner."

Like, I just thought it was like so normal and fine, and it was not extra at all. And contests had just like, lost her mind. And she's like, "So, what happened was a big misunderstanding?" And I can tell you that I came in with good intentions.

I have no idea why I turned into a conversation, even about my husband's party, and that's where I got there. And Brandy's like, "Who was talking about you, though?" Because I was, and she's like, "Well, as you would have in Leach."

And I was like, "Well, we didn't have a conversation." And then we see, like, the clip, it's heavenly. That was talking to Brandy about it. Like, heavenly instigated this. - Yes, exactly.

And she's like, "Cause you kept bringing up the party." And Brandy's like, "We did, we said something bad, but did we say." And happens like, "We didn't, we didn't." It was having me.

And Toy is like, "Yeah, it wasn't you always heavenly."

Toy doesn't ever know what she's talking about. Shut up, Toy, yeah. And he just goes like, "Roll the tape." So then we see, and it's just having me making the comments. And so Brandy's like, "Okay, so what bothered you?"

And she's like, "Well, look, I apologize." And she goes, "Well, you came pretty hard." And she's like, "Okay, well, just let me know when you're finished." And then I'm like, "I came soft." And that's what I'm trying to say.

'Cause it's soft on your breath. Next time come loud, then I can hear you. And then I can address it in the moment. (laughing) You don't think I was loud at the party?

She goes, "No, because it wasn't a microphone under your breath." So next time, say it loud, and then we can address it in the moments. And she's like, "Well, I was just flabbergasted." I mean, we're celebrating Brandy, but somehow or another I got to call your husband

face time and tell him, "Thank you for some chicken wings." Like, "I mean, I just didn't get that." And she goes, "Oh, girl, bye." Let's get back to this. Let's be clear.

At your party, we've spent about an hour with you complaining about your husband to me.

And she's like, "I never complained."

She goes, "You said, Brandy, I've never had a party in my whole life. I've turned almost 50, and I haven't had a party still." And she's like, "Hmm." Yeah, I don't remember saying that. Yes, you did.

Of course, you were saying that because, you know, people were egging you want to. And being like, "Did you not do anything for this?" And so Katessa's like, "Well, I've had several dinners, and your definition of party is what you had."

That's what you had. Because no, my definition of a party, I've had multiple parties, and what I had was a dinner.

“Katessa's like, "Well, where are we competing about parties?”

I'm not trying to compete because girl, bye." Yeah, because you are the one trying to compete. So Brandy just rolls her eyes. Like, "Okay, auntie, okay." I apologize if I came to your party in your mind

with anything but love and celebration of who you are because that day to me should have been about Brandy and her inability to throw a good party. Because it was the day that God decided that this world needed a bad party planner on this earth, okay?

And our world would be incomplete, unless we had a chicken wing throwing dinner party person. So they're like, "Okay, well, let's just celebrate each other then." Okay, well, "Docking from Kong." It kills Mario every single time because he's a bad ass.

Says, "How does Angel in art?" And not know how much I'm going to do. Oh my god, I feel like Sam's Ronnie on the evening.

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And angels like, "Oh, I didn't read the bottle and I've done a lot of music videos". So you're saying that you're a nurse who doesn't read the directions on medicine. Great. Well, damn. That's the moment.

You have something to say about medical licenses. So Toy is like, "Oh, my God. She was just the moment." And she says, "Yeah, I didn't read it, but it had everything numb. Oh, my God. I couldn't even breathe." So they laugh about that.

And they laugh about how she's trying to get rid of her gag reflex for blowing people. And this is kind of a long time. It's kind of all she really gets to do in this... I felt bad for her, because it's like, "Welcome, Angel. Talk about your gag reflex."

Okay, thanks.

We'll never talk to you again.

It was kind of like shitty, and this is what it'd be always joke about. Like the moment that someone says, like, some kind of, like, slightly ronchy or sexy tail. Like, that's the thing that they decide to focus on with the reunions.

“And I don't think we as the audience care that much, right?”

That's not me being a prude, but it's like, "It's funny in that moment, but it's not something that needs to be well-defined." It's kind of like, you know, the best jokes don't need to be explained. And it's kind of like, "We're sitting and explaining the joke in this moment." And it's not like I care so much about her scrub business, but like, why don't you ask

for questions about her scrub? Well, like, why are we dwelling on the highway? Well, I hope that that's a thing. They better ask her how do you feel about Jackie ripping off your business, because that was crazy.

So, they do ask about Bernard Den, though, I mean, so, Toya, wait, do they ask, do they do they do? They do, they do. Well, so Bay of Quattas, like, actually Quattas asked the question, because Toya could ask a question.

"Why did you ask Bernard Laundard how it was angel in the bedroom?" And Toya, well, that was actually a longer conversation than we'll show him, because I asked him a ton of questions. And Quattas said, "But it's because I said, "Ooh, she can't watching," and Toya was like, "No, I love what he did for a living, I know, I know," and Quattas said, "But

I thought you were a cat watching." And Toya was like, "No, I asked them why they were dating, why they were dating on them more." So, that's just like the one that was spashing off the bill's shone.

“So, basically, Toya was saying, that's why I asked, because it was like, we were having”

a longer conversation, and I just was, you know, I was sort of pushing it a little bit. But I also, like, I would have liked some questions about, like, isn't this totally, like, wasn't Toya totally overstepping with all this?

Just in general, Toya was like, "Oh my God, I'm never going to set her up with a family,

like, isn't it a violation of girl code?" There were like a lot of questions to be had with this, but instead, we had to light a cane in the blowjobs. Yeah. And Toya's like, "Oh, it's just a joke, you know, I'm a little intrusive, okay."

And so, Angel's like, "Well, what do you want a little taste on my kitty cat? Is that what you want to talk about it?" And she's like, "I don't want to taste you. That's another lie that I haven't least spits out that I eat kuchi." And Heavenly's like, "You were the one who said you liked women, you said you liked women,

I didn't say that." So, yeah, which we kind of gotten to this Bernard stuff, because this is all stupid. So now we go to Dr. Mimi, okay? She was voted most likely to try to treat her friends like Patience, but when they came to struggle with it, oh Mimi voted herself most likely to need more affirmations from her

husband. Don't we get-- I love story. But I love that this show, they're like angry, that I license, and I accomplished psychiatrists, treat their friends like Patience, but then they all go every year to the Caribbean to

that they're not trained to do, but they're like, "Well, it's like, I don't know.

I only want to be treated like a therapist patient by someone who has no idea what they're doing." Like, what's wrong? Like, I get it. Like, of course, I get it.

Like, if your friends with the therapist, you don't want to be like, "You just want a friend in that moment, you don't want a therapist." I personally, I'm like, "Hey, you just got some free therapy." That's expensive. That's also just not true.

I mean, even if they say that, if you have a friend who's a therapist, people who are a therapist have friends all the time come up to them, like, "Oh my God, could you give me some advice?" It's just like, if you have a friend who's a doctor or a dentist, and I could you look at my molar?

You know? Yeah. But also, like, if you guys are having a stupid fight and you're clearly not communicating well, and there's someone who can give you the tools to help you communicate better, like, that way, the, the, like, you can have a productive conversation.

Like, why is that necessarily a bad thing? I'm maybe for reality TV. It's not such a good thing, but I just am like, I understand why Mimi is like, "It's

“hard for me not to jump in and to try to help because I can't because that's what all”

the doctors would do. They would all jump in to help. I mean, look at Dr. Jackie being so kind as to potentially diagnose brandy. Who did the thyroid issue in her neck?" Yeah.

I thought you were going to say, "I thought you were going to say, "I thought you were going to say you loved that they go from talking about deep-throating dicks to, like, let's talk about your child with autism." I know. There's that pivot, too.

Let's not forget that. But you're right about the, uh, Jackie being shady to brandy at first, to be like, "Do you have an enlarged thyroid?" Like, hello? We're not going to discuss this?

So Mimi talks about being a mother of a child with autism and how difficult it is. And I thought that was a good story to bring to TV and I thought they had it really well. And then, um, there's still talking about like, theorizing your friends and stuff. And then we move on to Toya and Mimi budding heads. And Toya's like, "Yeah, so though we don't, I don't even understand it."

And Heavenly's like, "Toya never owned anything, including your houses."

Yeah. Because the whole thing was that, at Heavenly's campaign event, Mimi had told Brandy,

“"Be careful about aligning yourself with Toya because, um, I should stupid."”

Basically, 'cause she's stupid. This is not someone you're still lying yourself with." So Mimi's like, "Well, Toya, at your home, I never meant to disrespect your marriage. And when you turned away and said, "Hey, what else should I do?" After I talked to Eugene, I said, "Lean into softness and assertiveness."

And she was, "I did that stupid thing." And she goes, "Yes, you did, run the tape," as they say. And so I never wanted to disrespect your marriage. "Okay, that's not what I do. I encourage marriage."

I encourage it. And I walk into a park and I see a couple, just rollerskating past each other. I say, "You should get married." I encourage marriage. I can't even walk into a restaurant without putting two ketchup bottles together.

I just need to marry these ketchups. I can't have two half bottles. I encourage the marriage wherever I see it. So Toya's like, "Well, I can pick up a marriage. Poppins."

Great movie. I encourage the... I encourage the... But I was poppins. I can pick up a bill, because he's like, "Okay, but she's talking."

And I'm like, "Yes, thank you, Andy. Let her talk." "Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Finally, let her talk."

So Mimi's like, "I'm just saying the Neontoya never started.

We never had a good foundation. There was never a conversation, say, "Okay, this is who I am. I still don't know who Toya is. I don't know where she lives. She's had a lot of houses."

And I'm not saying that I don't want to know. It's just that we don't have a foundation in order to cultivate a relationship except for a very, very cringy moment. Oh, so so good job, guys. Look, she's a good job."

Yeah, but you know what? The one thing she said was true is that she still doesn't know who I am. But she just sat here. Wait, no, I don't. But you're a liar.

And she's like, "Well, we tell her who she should allow herself with. That's a crazy part." And she goes, "No, but this is the behavior." And she goes, "Oh, well, I'm sorry. I was talking.

I let you speak now, could I speak?" She said, "No, you did not. You talk over Andy has said it over and over. You have talked over multiple times, Toya." Okay, you don't know.

I am not saying that. Okay, well, you were done. But I'm not done now.

“Okay, well, now you want to try and remember.”

You just said you were done. I did not say I was that you did. You just interrupted me and denying that I would be in cut off, Toya. Just so you're done now, right? No.

He's all talking. He's all talking. It's so funny. So, my name is like Brandy. I apologize for my delivery that day. I'm ready as I can appreciate that because that's it was the delivery that triggered me and she goes, yes, and so it was a lot for you to ball to ask a law and she goes, well, we've already had a conversation so who's talking over now? Okay, it's great. All right, that was wonderful. Okay, potato peeler on Twitter said, I really, I really respect Dr. Mimi for showing the hard parts of raising a child that's neurodivergent.

And so knowing that this is going to be something she's going to deal with the rest of her life is that's a, that's a tough one for her and we've seen that's, that's like a specifically a very unique challenge that they have to deal with with little Stevies. So it's a, I found that every time that she and Steve senior have talked about this, I found it to be like really fascinating and really interesting and so continued with this moment here.

Yeah, so they're telling, oh my gosh, you did, you're doing such a great job and they, you know, complement her on, you know, her, you know, basically how she have lived on the show.

And Andy says, you know, some of you felt Mimi was guarded and then in Jamaica, she opened up and I'm curious what went through your mind into a, gives her credit, you know, I think we was a strong woman and a strong mother and you know, God, she's right when she says, God would not put anything on your plate that you can't bear. And I love your story, you're a great mom, you're still a bitch though.

“God, God will never give you anything that you can handle, which makes me question, how big is Steve's dick?”

Oh, God, I'm back. Yes, finally a dick that I want to imagine.

So they agree that there's a path forward for Mimi and toia and everyone's like, oh my God, this is so beautiful. Okay, so now the men are coming to the ring and we see them arriving backstage.

And they're joking with Steve, like, oh, Steve, you nervous. Oh, our healthy. We're in L.V. Steve with his L.V. And Damon's like, you know what daddy doesn't want to see you guys argue, but I understand the anchor and Steve's like, well, there's some level of accountability we all need to take today. And he's like, well, if Steve got to the vet and didn't know he needed to take it and Steve is like never said, they never said it to me once. And Steve says, like, and I will say this at someone with the base bar, I'm not seeing what's right or wrong, but I will say this.

We have to do better communicating what's going on. I've says, Steve's always had their silently while Simone, you know, had to deal with her spoil children. So Steve is like, it's like, well, there wasn't a lot of inclusion. He's like, well, if you're trying to include people and they're pushing back, then you just move on and you make a good event.

Like, well, if you're trying to include people, then you don't charge them tickets on top of the table, which is, which means that they had to get purchased ahead of time.

Because we had a whole thing last week where we were actually on Eugene's side until we discovered that the norm is that of someone buys you a table and invites you to sit at a table that they bought. You don't have to buy a ticket. So Eugene was 100% in the wrong in this situation.

“And Steve was like, well, you tried to exclude us when it comes to tickets, but it was never said that we needed to buy a ticket, okay?”

And Eugene's like, well, if you didn't like the way it was ran and you were so, you know, why were you even there? Why did you even come? Because it's a charity and it's a season finale party Eugene. Yeah, you don't get to get to keep that. Yeah, exactly. You're saying that he didn't want to throw in $2,500 to put on the event, because he didn't, because he clearly didn't think it was being managed properly.

Or didn't, or felt that it was rude to say, okay, you are obligated to throw in an equal share of money, even though Mimi was not given any say whatsoever and how the thing is organized. But that's different than going and saying, I'm going to, I'm going to donate to the event. It's like two different concepts there. Right. So he's like, well, I wasn't there to support you. I was there to support the cause and he's like, then buy a ticket and he goes, but I did. I did buy a ticket and he goes, okay.

Well, then why are we having this argument, Steve? Because you're justifying bad behavior. And Steve's like, well, you just to find bad behavior every single day with Toya and Eugene goes, bye bye. Eugene is well, Eugene's house library is like, yeah, I feel like, you know, it's not a classy thing to, I don't think what Steve said was very classy.

“I also don't think it was wrong. It was not classy. Probably not something you should say, but I also can't ignore the fact that it, like, I was sort of like, he's kind of right about that.”

Yeah, he was right, and you're right, normally they don't do, that's like a rule, right? You don't say something about the other person's wife. But Eugene has spent the whole season coming get daddy for stuff that Heavenly said. So, I don't know, I'm going to allow it on this one. I'm going to allow it, too. I was like, I was like, oh, I feel like I shouldn't allow it, but I'm going to allow it.

And he goes, don't fucking say that about my wife. And Steve says, when the fuck did I stutter? And he goes, you mentioned my wife and he goes, oh, so you want to cuss?

You're going to have that energy, then keep it. And I keep cursing. And I kind of felt like, you know, there's part of me that, like, again, I kind of wanted to have Eugene side because what I saw was, like, our aggression to high school, where the jock is, like, bullying the nerd. You know, because Eugene is basically a big old nerd. He's like, he's a Brainiac, he loves his comic books, he loves his video games. He's just like an adorable nerd. And Steve is an NFL player. And I was like, don't beat up on our sweet Eugene. He's so nerd. He got, he got made fun of, but then I was like, but, you know,

though, he's, I think, kind of right in this one. So Eugene started it. Yeah. So Steve's like, you want to be one of the women. Do you? Do you want to be one of the women? Cause you're acting like one. And I don't care how you're head or how you move your head or smack your lips. It does not change the fact that you were trying to ambush me at an event after we had a conversation.

Yeah. And now I do always hate when guys, like, use your acting like a woman. That's like the ultimate insult is act like a woman.

“I'm like, you should be so lucky. You should be so lucky to act like a woman.”

Yeah, I don't know how he got shows there. That is a common thing where it's like, you're not a housewife. Yeah. I think that's, I think that there's actually so much like load of misogyny in that. I really hate when guys guys say that like that, the ultimate insult. You're acting like a woman. But um, so I did not like that. But again, I'm on the inside. So Eugene's like, well, if you feel ambushed, I'm sorry. You should pay for it. Take it. And Curtis is like, Steve, Steve, that dude isn't going to min anything. Okay.

Okay. I mean, look, I'm still on the fence about this because we've, we talked already about how charities work if someone buys the table. And that's it. You don't have to buy a ticket. But has Jackie said has Jackie confirmed that she did in fact buy a table of this many tickets. And this is who she wants or are they thinking that that's included in the $2,500 or like, what is it? It's still, I'm still unclear. And I think that even if you, if you go to a charity event, you didn't give the $2,500 and they're like, well, you still need to take it.

“You should just say, okay, well, I thought it was the table, but whatever here's here's the ticket.”

My, it's $300 for $2. Yeah, I think it's. So I still think that Steve should have just bought the fucking ticket. Right. And he did, he, he did have like a little bit of a diva moment about it. But I also think he should have been like, look, I'm, I'm like Jackie got my ticket because I'm a matter table. Like, I don't know. I felt like there was, there was a lot of stupidity going on. And you know, and also the other thing is this too is like, Toya and Eugene have been unhelpful with this med gal in the past and suddenly they're like in control of it.

And I'm not totally sure they know exactly what they're doing to be fair. And so when Eugene's like, well, you've got to buy a ticket. It's like, well, this, like, this is your first time at the rodeo. And I, I don't know, it feels like they, like he doesn't really know what's going on. I wish they just called Jackie over and said Jackie, he's saying that he's a part of your table. And then that would have solved it. It's just like the guys are doing the housewives job. They're like fighting with each other because they're fighting a proxy war between the women.

And it's just never going to work out well for it. And other one of you, you know.

So now we go to Heavenly, Heavenly went from filling cavities to campaigning to fill a congressional seat. Wow, I'm Abby Cohen and I approve this package. I mean, whatever Steve Sanders is carrying between his legs. All right. Well, we have a lot to talk about. First, I want to play a little bit a little game. I'm going to ask some rapid fire questions about Heavenly the candidate.

So yeah, your name Heavenly would pass a background jack. So everyone says, yeah, because they're like, And she's like, I'm a professional. So I don't have to. Which is just funny because again, at your point at the beginning of the episode, like yes, of course, she has a pass background check. She is like a medical professional. But I do love like the like, there's just something to me about going on reality TV, which

“I think like chips away at the professional take a little bit for anyone.”

You know, I'm like, why are you on this show? Well, especially Heavenly, oh my god, all the stuff they they could show, the opponent could show. So Tory won't answer and quads like, just say, yeah, yeah, girl Jesus. She goes, okay, I'll write yay. Okay, yeah, I would trust Heavenly with the nuclear codes. And everyone in America said no at the same time. Like my wall shook.

All right, Congress people do not have the nuclear code, so so don't worry about that. And Heavenly goes, well, absolutely not afraid. I didn't know that though. Bitch. And it's like, yeah, your name Heavenly needs a stylist, not necessarily a campaign question, but sure. Does she need a stylist? And they're all like, yay.

It's like, well, Jackie takes me shopping, but, you know, it's too expensive.

Talbot's having sales.

“If you if you bring Heavenly office, Talbot's and she goes, we'll have sales.”

Yeah, you're a day Heavenly's campaign as I or chances success and Heavenly's beauty's apply.

And I'm like, yes, well, I didn't even want a beauty supply store in the first place.

Well, it happened to the beauty supply store. Did we know that tanked? I totally forgot about that. But yeah, I guess that's done. Oh, my God.

What's a Lara doing? What is she doing? What is she doing, by the way? Then we like, a Lara just turned 30. How does that happen on the show?

I know, a Lara just had her first grandchild. What happened? Yeah, you know, Heavenly tells the truth about our life and they're like, No, absolutely do. It's a heavenly, a lot of viewers were concerned when you reveal

Demon Junior's arrest. Can you give us an update?

“So Heavenly gets very choked up and says that our son had a mental health emergency.”

And they know where he is, but they haven't actively seen him. And there's a lot she wants to say, but it's his story to tell. So she's not going to put it out there.

She would never put her family on blast.

She thought it was already out there in the news. And, you know, she basically says, she called me me for help. And that me helped a lot. And she's tried to do everything for children. She's put them to private schools.

She's tried to get back as much as she could. And she says that an epidemic in the nation is mental health. And that people, like, like, that needs to be treated. And then we see daddy back in the, in the, in the green room, watching and agreeing that that's, like, definitely an issue.

And that if it weren't for the fact that he works in emergency rooms and knows people on the police or around that, you know, then what's the space? Damon Jr. would have wound up getting sort of put into the system and gone down to different paths. Well, what they do is they put people in mental health with mental health issues and jail,

rather than giving them treatment. Well, let me fair. We also put them on Bravo. That, that myself on the back this, that myself on the back. And there's that too.

Although the bachelor read is giving us a good run for the money. Okay. Not so happy about that. I love the phrasing of this question. Libra from isn't just another word for book.

Says haven't we had to look up on the damn internet to find out about Junior's arrest.

Damon should have told her as first.

Well, even I don't talk about everything. There's certain things I kind of handle. And there's certain things that you can handle. And that's a major relationship. And everybody's relationship is different.

So what I say to Libra is a different info book is your mama. And just so you know, I don't wake up during filming and decide, oh, I'm going to put my family on blast heavily. Shit happens spontaneously. She was, well, the different between you and I.

That was my husband's too good to me. And I've been here longer. I've been with Cecil much longer than you've been with Damon. She was well, I feel situation is different. Yeah, we got married because we chose to not because I was pregnant.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Let's go.

Who would vote for him in the evening today?

“Are we not allowed to get married because we're pregnant now?”

I mean, Jean's what kind of justice is that. Yeah. So it's a better excuse than falling for Cecil. Well, didn't Simone just also kind of like, wasn't she sort of edging towards shading quad for having a baby without getting married?

Oh, god. So everyone, so anyway, Toyos like, we have enough lives. I'm telling you, I can't think about the one. I'm sorry. All right.

Well, I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with your campaign. AKA, I'm excited to see you back next season. Okay. So, um, doctor Simone, doctor heavenly. We're in a good place when they scrub it in for 12.

But weaponized husbands and accusations of unhinged behavior at the table. But for friendship, altered, created an old friendship, altering viewed. Watch. So now we're getting into Simone versus Heavenly. Yes.

And so she Simone is saying, well, it's not about even needing support. It's about what's right. What's wrong? And after you saw the footage Jackie and after the tape was rolled for anybody sitting here to continue a narrative that just wasn't true to stand behind a false allegation means that I have to take another look at you and your morals and your character. Jackie's like, well, I really want Simone if she will today to tell me what I could have said that would have made it right.

And he's like, yeah, that was the problem.

“I think if you wanted to say something that she wouldn't get mad at, you should, or mad at, you should have said no.”

Heavenly did not push Simone. That's it. Yeah. It's not like a deep puzzle. Right.

And he's like, did now that you've seen it, do you think that Simone is a physical threat to Heavenly and Jackie's like, no. Simone is not a physical threat to anybody. But I am Heavenly who's running for office. I am. So what did you say that?

And I asked you backstage and you said, absolutely not. She was not a physical threat. So then when I'd say that again, I was trying to be good to, good friend to both parties.

But it's not the first time, though, that there's no wedge in your friendship and the wedge always seems to be heavenly.

I'm not trying to be a wedge, Andy. I don't even like that salad. I've spurred lettuce and shit. But I promise I'm not trying to be a wedge. And he's like, well, I'm really hoping that we can resolve this.

And you Simone and Simone's like, well, I don't think there is a resolution when you're still lying on me.

“But I think everybody has a real truth, bitch.”

And Simone is like, well, if your mind has you, that delusional, that you think that somebody hit or pushed you by your own hinge. But you've got to sit with a psychiatrist. Mimi is here. And she is sitting close to her for a reason. I never had another black woman called me on hinge.

Aggressive. None of that. And he's like, yeah, I think it's about that physicality is the thing. It's just, yes, but to a ledge that I pushed her, which by the way, I totally agree with Simone. She did not push or she removed something.

And she removed something.

She removed having the arm, which if anything, she could spit as you were violating my space because you were touching me. And I was, I was removing myself from that situation or deescalating that. If anything, Simone is the one who really has the case of anything, which really, there's nothing there that happened. They were just posting for a photo. But in either way, I love that.

I have, well, you shouldn't touch anyone. I'm like, you were the one who had your arm draped on. I'm, I'm Simone without her permission. Yeah, and she's like, you, well, you touched me and you shouldn't have touched me. No, you grabbed my arm.

And she looked, oh my god, this girl is delusion all. So, and he's like, back it up, back it up, okay. You heard Jackie say no uncertain terms that she ever believed that you were physically aggressive. Before she saw the footage and after she saw the footage. She was, well, if she had said that when she was talking to you, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

But now she's saying it because she has no choice.

“And she's like, well, Andy, Andy though, do you remember what I said to you in the dressing room before we got on?”

Yes, he just said that in the dressing room, you said that it wasn't physical, so why didn't you bring that to the stage? Oh, Jackie, she's just like, just admit that I said something backstage when it didn't matter. So, Simone's like, can you imagine at the hospital and having like, well, do you act like this at the hospital? Well, those of the matter, do you act like that or your double office? I did not.

Shut up, okay, let's stop, stop, let them speak. Okay, okay, be quiet. Here you are, running for a congressional seat that has nothing has changed. I tell the truth, they're wasting a time. So Simone's like, "Quad hasn't been able to clean up nothing.

She hasn't been able to alter nothing about you." And Quad just laughing like, it's true. I can't fix heavenly for the campaign. Sure, it's our cumbersome job. But I do believe that heavenly acts like this in the dental office.

A hundred percent. I believe that heavenly's like, "Well, hello, welcome in. I'm so glad to see you have a seat right here. What has it been a year and it's been a year since I've said it's supposed to be six months. But it's a year and you're here now and that's not the show me your teeth.

You still haven't fly, I told you to floss. I told you to bitch. You know she gets, you know she gets all heavenly in the dental chair. So Jackie is like, "Same on. This is important to me today.

This is not a show. We've been through a lot for 30 years. Okay? There were the vibrators. There were the scrubs.

There were my wicked glasses.

And I've always felt like you were safe.

And I was so sorry to you. Don't forget, fit is the new it. Go ahead, bitch. It is the new it. Lemon squeezes.

So today, I want this about you and I. I don't care what they're saying right now. I need to know from you that if I have let you down and betrayed you, I want to fix it. Because so you come in to me that night.

I angel's a band. And you are the person most in the group that can get me down to earth when I am angry. Me too. I can do she does that for me too. And you know that night you came to me trying to settle me down.

And I kept going because I knew exactly what I was doing. People come for me. And I was like, I'm clocked in baby. I stay clocked in. Ready to go.

If you come for me. And I came to who you instead of Heavenly you. I came to you. And she's like, yeah.

And then when we got to floor.

Okay. So meanwhile. Angel is like, excuse me, Simone. You were acting. She's like pointing out like hello.

That party was a mess. It was my party. And it was a mess. And you were acting crazy at that part. Yeah.

But she kind of gets mad. The reason why she says that is because Simone is really upset. Because then when they went to their trip to the Florida Panhandle. That Jackie went over to Simone. And it was like, you really snapped.

You really snapped. And Simone was upset because she's like, everyone was napping. Okay. And like you met your single me out as if I'm the only one who did it. And Heavenly's like, yeah.

But Heavenly's like, well, we all snapped. But she was just talking about you.

And this is an angel's like, yeah.

But by the way, yes, we all snapped. But you were really snapping. Okay. Let's like, we can't lose the fact that you were off the handle of flying off the handle. Yeah.

And she was like, no. I stopped snapping when people, I'll stop snapping when people stop coming for me. And it crots like, wait a minute.

“Are you talking to Jackie or what are we talking about now?”

So now Jackie and Toya switched spots. So Jackie can sit with Simone. She walks over there. And she's like, this is about me and you. I don't want to hear all of them.

And she's like, yeah. But my point is, in Florida, you are talking to me about the fact that I snapped off as if I was the only person who snapped. And she was, no, I had the same conversation about snapping with Heavenly. Okay. And Heavenly's like, oh, she won't hold herself accountable.

You know, I just couldn't take it. I removed myself from the situation because she touched my arm. And they fought for less than that. Heavenly, this is such a, this is such a failing argument from Heavenly. It really is.

And the fact that she's still like, the footage is there. The fact that she is still going hard about it. It is actually bad. Like, you know, Simone is a doctor. And it also kind of, I think it actually undermines people who have valid claims of that happening.

I think, you know, like, I don't think it's right. So Jackie is like, she's like, well, I wasn't isolating. I was talking to you. So when then Simone, when I come to you, it's difficult.

You and I, we so and out on everyone else, but this time it hurts.

“She was, but Andy asked you a simple question.”

He did. And I answered it again. I answered it again. Based on the conversation that we had prior to even going to New York. And the conversation we had was you saying this, just bite the question.

That's nothing to do about unhinged. He said Simone, push Heavenly or is Heavenly making it up. And you said, well, I wasn't there. And he said, but you saw the footage and that notes. She'd basically going through it again about why she's upset with Jackie.

Yeah. And she's like, you know, I'm watching you as my friend. You're supposed to represent me. And you know what happens if I were to hit or push or anything. And a real case comes out of that.

Like, I have to answer with hospital privileges. I have to answer it with a malpractice student. She's like, okay, you're correct. And she goes, so if you tell the truth to me and you tell her the truth together.

Like, are we never gonna end up back together?

She says, we are never going to end up back together. You can take my word for it. She's like, Simone. And she's like, nope. Can't move forward.

Don't want to. Can't do it. Done. Done. Done.

Done. Until next episode. Until next episode. Until next episode. And they got through to each other.

I usually take two years. So she's usually not through the same reunion kind of for Giver. She means like a year together. And they fight though. I actually really hate it.

I hate it. I hate it. And the thing is like, I get it. You know, like, she's trying to be friends to Heavenly. But this is not the way to do it.

And Heavenly's wrong all the time. I mean, Heavenly is my favorite person on this cast. But she's wrong 80% of the time.

“And, you know, you have to, if you're going to be friends with someone like that, you have to be like,”

No, you're wrong. You have to be okay saying that. Because Heavenly, I think, is okay taking it. She's used to being told she's wrong. She's wrong all the time.

Yeah. I think, and I don't think that Jackie should have played Switzerland in that moment. I think she just so used to doing it. You know, I get it. Because I often will do that as well.

I will often. In a case, a situation where I'm like, I just don't want to be part of this. I'll take Switzerland. And that's probably what Jackie was doing. She probably was like, you know what?

I don't want to get inserted into this mess. And then in her attempt to not be in the mess, she went up directly in the center of it. Yeah. It seems like she is saying, like, Simone, your behavior was also crazy at that party. Like, you guys had to be physically separated.

It's not like Simone was because the only clip they really show. Is Simone just going, please take your hand off of my arm. That's all they show. And it doesn't really look that wild. But the episode got wild.

And so I think Jackie's looking at that and saying, yeah, but your behavior that might wasn't professional. So like, I don't like you were acting on professional that night. But the thing is, is that the physical component is a big thing. When you accused somebody of that and they didn't do it, that's a huge difference.

I think Jackie messed up. I think Heavenly was wrong. I also think that, yes, like, the Simone is, Simone has every right to be mad at Jackie. I would not end her friendship over it.

Because she is also focusing on what a could of shutters that had not happened. So yes, it's like, it's, it's a dangerous accusation. That being said, it's everyone can see that Simone did not get physical. Everything is okay.

“I just wouldn't, I, I think I would hold my friends beat to the fire express this satisfaction.”

But like, cutting off a 30 year friendship, I think is really extreme. Unless this is, there is more brewing between the two than then we know. So, I'm sure you know what Tom's going to do. It's going to tell you. Tom will tell you.

Tom will tell. So I don't know. I don't have any idea. But I need Jackie to be confronted about the thyroid comment. More with the other things missing from this.

The glasses, the, the wicked glasses did kind of drop in us. And that's, I think that's at the PT cruiser, maybe. We are, I don't know. Okay. Well, next week.

That's a bad day. Next week is the Steve Sanders show. He's, he's had, he's been lighting up the internet with the clips that they've been showing of him telling Eugene that Eugene should be called Eugene Harris. It's a, sort of, or Eugene Bush.

I should say. Doc guy, Eugene Bush. Eugene Bush. Yeah. We'll look forward to that.

In the meantime, we'll see all of you at crappy hour. Thanks everyone for being here. We love you all so much. We'll talk to you in the next episode. Bye.

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