Episode 621 – Stanley from True North Arms

penny, so disregard anything you hear the mic at anyone in trouble.

And despite some of the great ideas in my hearing, don't try the phone, put a friend's house instead. When the talking is over, it's time to get a gun. Hello and welcome to SLAM Fire Radio. This is episode 621 for September 3rd. I'm your host, Adrian.

I am Caltown, Tony. And that's all we've got for tonight, just the two of us. So we'll just talk to you guys. We're just gonna talk about be away the whole time. So tough luck for all of you who don't like

“that three again because that's what we're gonna talk about pretty much the whole time.”

Maybe I'll start off with what we didn't get. I was here last week, so I didn't do too much, though. I didn't. I'm able to see double header two weekends ago. And did I talk about that?

I don't think I talked about that. Did I? No. Not on air. Not on air.

So I didn't even pop it and then I bounced. I had to because last week I was like, I'm short on time these weeks with these extra long weekend shooting and other events, it's just like, yes, even though it's too much fun. Even this week is kind of nuts because like Monday was off and like tomorrow, I'm leaving. Which means I had my Tuesday night.

My Wednesday night slam fire and then Thursday I'm gone. So I had one night thought because I have, I'm gonna go camp out for be away. I'm gonna be helping to set up on Friday morning. Anywho, that's like, let me, let me start with the start.

“So papacy double header, this was, I think this is going to be one of our last events of”

the year. So one thing that we did for this one is try to requalify as many instructors as possible. So I'm able to see instructors. We're going to shoot like a, uh, maple seed qualifying target and make riflemen every year.

Show that we still got it. And if you don't, we take, we strip you, we take your hat and your shirt. Get hot. Get out of here. Take it right off.

Have a half of, yeah, no, we, we give them another chance to, to, to, yeah, well, they got more chances. But, um, I can't think I'm the only person that I have qualified with a center fire, bolt action and I upgraded to a semi-auto 22 inch and I also have a focus of all, I, I did

not have a, adjustable, objective scope on the first round and I qualify the second time

I have a bigger scope, adjustable, a lot of things, and I did not, well, it is a 22 because it didn't jam my parents, it shouldn't, well, okay, jamming will make a difference on you. But, uh, I made too many shots. So I see, I was, I was on the edge of it, but anyway, yeah, the objective shouldn't make too much.

Like, ultimately it's, it's the person shooting not the gun that's going to make the difference, um, but the things that make, may proceed more challenging, a bolt action does make it more challenging to, for speed, and then for accuracy, iron sights, we'll make it a lot more challenging, or a red dot, that's, that's quite a bit more challenging to shoot because the, the targets are small, um, yeah, so, a lot, lots of fun for that.

Um, I shot, I ended up shooting the, uh, we shoot an up shooting rapid MQTs, which is where

“you have to shoot it very quickly, um, and, uh, just shoot the whole thing top to bottom.”

Uh, a shot one with, uh, my semi-automatic, and I got a 239, uh, points in two minutes in 30 seconds, and then max is four, yeah, for the rapid, uh, and then I shot my bolt action Narinco, cracked it out, and pulled a 244, which was, uh, good enough for one of those, I hadn't, I hadn't gotten one of those, uh, earned well, elite, yeah, I hadn't, uh, earned one, um, we've had it for, I think, two years, but I have, uh, it's been a second, yeah,

I haven't really bothered, like, like, I just didn't bother getting one, but like, I kind of, I, I saw some, I was giving some way to some people like, man, I kind of want one of those now. So, I wanted to, I wanted to shoot a, a 240 plus, and, uh, yeah, I got it with the, with the Narinco bolt action.

Why is the bolt action? There is a, accuracy, that's, no, if I would have taken a little bit more time with the semi-automatic, go to done the same thing, um, but with the bolt action, um, I don't know, well, the trigger

on it's amazing, like I haven't worked over the trigger, so it's, it's quite good, uh,

the scope on it is, uh, is better than all my semi-automatic, I have a, uh, uh, Cabello's Covenant 7, which is, uh, not, not a name brand scope for sure, 4, 2, 16, first focal point.

Oh, they're just, name and skin very weird.

Well, the, um, the 4's, they're cheap one, the 5's a little bit better than the 7's, they're best one. This one goes from 3 to 21, 3 to 20, 7 times, interesting, it's an odd, but it, it, like, I, I really like the scope feels really good. And the other thing I like about this bolt action is, uh, you can, you can run the, the flush mount, 5 round mags under it. Uh, uh, the bolt's very

“stiff, it's going to very stiff bolt on it, but that's by design, uh, any of that. You hate that?”

I like it, because it makes me feel more accurate, it's tighter. Uh, anyways, that was a maple seed double header, so Saturday, Sunday, uh, and then right after that, I had to pack up and get ready for motorbike camping, that was the last week, and I just, uh, just went out. It was motorbike camping and, uh, a little bit of hunting, because the, the Monday was, uh, the gross opener for the, for that, WMU. And, uh, we got some, we were motorbikeing around

for, like, 5 hours per day, let's say, like, 4 to 5 hours per day, right? How about 100 hours per day, Jesus? Quite a bit then. Yeah, so, so on, no gross, not, not a one, and then, but I'm like, man, this, this, this looks too good, so let's just walk. And we got three, looks too now or do I define that? Uh, the habitat looked really good, so, um, there's, uh, like, high-bush cranberries, and there's a little bush, like, little red, I don't know what they're

called, a little crunchy guys, um, and I know the gross really like them, because often one I'm, uh, scanning them out and find that in their crop, like, they're eaten those, so they, they like those, and they're everywhere. And the habitat, like, the, um, there's a right amount of, like, bushiness and not bushiness and, uh, old growth forest with, like, a lot of moss on the ground, that's, that's, that's easy for them to fly through that, and that kind of thing. So, I'm like,

man, I should be crossing around here. This looks really, really, really grossy around here. And, uh, yeah, they were there, they were just, like, they were, like, if you motorbike past,

they'll, you just never see them, they weren't sitting really close to the road,

“and we're flushing or anything like that. So, are you running still a 22 rifle this time around?”

Uh, I had my folding shotgun, but my buddy brought his, uh, his 22 and, and chose to use it, 'cause it was nice and quiet and didn't, uh, blow anyone's ear drums out. So, you know, found a couple sprues, couple rough rough gross. Yeah. Have you ever thought any males drumming? Yeah, that's long. Oh. Oh, like, seen them drumming in the log? Like, I've heard them drumming and, like, laser Dan and went to them and went and shot them.

Um, I've done that, but, uh, I don't know. Have I seen them drumming? Yeah, I've seen them drumming a lot. Yeah, now I think about it. I've, I've been hunting gross since I was, like, really 13. So, yeah, I've, I've seen that. Now I feel left out. No, you'll see it. If you, if you hunt them well, let's see it, or even if you're in gear, I've just said, I feel like I'm, they're left out because I'm waiting for hunting see them, then.

“Oh, but like, this is a quite a drive for three gross. Yeah, one, you know, half day of, uh, of hunting.”

But mostly it was, uh, a bunch of guys that do a sport motor bikes, uh, camping out there and then during the day like riding out to a bunch of different places, going swimming in the river and that kind of thing. So it's a good time. I took lots of footage. So I'll probably put out a video that will be very different than my other videos because it will have nothing to do with hunting or shooting or anything like that all about one of my camping. What you're being, that's hunting. I'm just using my kind of

mechanized horse riding around trying to find the animal. Mm-hmm. Yeah, this is the first time.

Well, I've been out motor bike camping before. I haven't done this amount of, like, trail riding before on gravel roads and that kind of thing. And it was, uh, it was challenging. I don't, uh, I've been riding for a long time since, uh, 2007, I'll say, um, but not really a lot of dirt and gravel on that kind of thing. So it was a bit of a chore. I'm going to bike with a bit heavy and I didn't really have, like, the best tires on it for this kind of thing. So I may have dumped it once, but, uh, yeah.

Ooh, like, a summer salt off of it, an uncontrolled summer salt off of it. I'm the kind of not for a fun person that if I were ever in that trip, I'll be driving the support vehicle. As in four wheels instead of two. We had, we had a guy out there with a support vehicle. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, it's good time. Uh, and then I, uh, I didn't mention last week, but, uh, I have a new arpelle gun that I've borrowed. It is a, the Blacks and Smith and Weston,

617. So she's a, oh, look at the look at the, look at the center. It looks like a full frame gun.

Yes, maybe eight because they have full frame A, A shooters. It's like 12 with 10. Yeah, it's got

on there. I don't know. Let's see, two, four, six, eight, 10. Yes, got 10. 10 rounds, 22, it'll fit in there. It is big. It is heavy. Oh, yeah, you can't, can't look at it at that angle. It can't look at the muzzle. But that ruins the whole aesthetics. Yeah. No need to. I mean, well, that's where all the weight is.

“It's got a big heavy barrel. That's true. How do you little board in there?”

But, uh, it's, it's going to be really good as an arpelle gun because it's very simple to use. Stainless means it's not going to rust. And, uh, it was easy to take the firing pin out, too. Good news. Yeah, uh, a couple screws on the side. Side play comes out, pull the pin, firing pin comes out, pull it all back together. I, I still feel like I'm not qualified enough as as a gunsmith to deal with. We all guns yet. It's just like, or lever guns for that matter. It's like,

there's a play that comes like, the, what is going on? Yes, seems like a lot, uh, at the same time. It was easy enough. And, uh, what thing I didn't notice is that it actually has a Hilary hole on it? Oh, yeah. That was like the deal, uh, deal with the devil from Swiss OSO, right? Yeah, they've got a,

they've got a lock built into the gun. That's interesting. And you don't have to keep. I'm never going to

need you. Uh, probably somewhere in here, not to be. Yeah. Wow. This is not ever going to use it. Because that's not kind of the legal as a, um, I, I, it might be, it might be, you don't have to

“lock the trigger. I'm just, I'm just thinking, does that count as the trigger law? Well, it's a key,”

it's a key lock built into the gun. I don't know. I don't know the action of the fire. I don't know. Well, yeah, it's a charibrand. Would you do a interpretation of this? Oh, we don't need an interpretation. I'm, I'm pretty sure that would count because it's got a, it's got a key that would go in there. It listeners, if you, if you know one way or the other, let us know, but I'm pretty sure that the,

the Hilary hole in the, the key in there would work. Anywho, I'm happy about that because, uh,

the other DA revolve I have has been borrowed for a long time from another instructor and, uh, he's, uh, he's due to get it back. Oh, it's just, it's a circle of borrowing. Okay. Yeah. What have really been up to this week is be a way prep because, uh, like I mentioned, I was, I came back on Monday, uh, at 7 or 8. So I was beat. We started riding 11. And, uh, so that was, uh, there's a, there's a long day on there. And most of that was gravel road, too. Boy, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

a little bit of backtracking. It was all fun though. Um, and then, uh, Tuesday, uh, kind of relaxed and, and recuperated. And then today, um, slam fire, and then tomorrow I leave. So I've been, like, you before I show here, I was doing some BWA prep and, and asking, you know, who needs what ammo, and that kind of thing. Uh, I'm bringing some extra guns just in case some backup guns, rifle shotgun and pistol. Uh, and then we're back up right for you. Gonna have teeth. 20.

Just gonna change the vision. Make game. Um, so, if I have to, Ryan, to open. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna bring an S gas or something like that. And then switch over to the S gas. I mean, like, I guess I do still have a roger wrench. No, you could bring a, bring LPC. In three-ner blackout. Well, changed a barrel. I'm out of time, man. That's a hero today. Show the plan. I could, I could totally bring the three-ner blackout. I have 200 rounds of,

of round of ammo for it. Um, I, I don't want to. That becomes expensive proposition. Well, no, they're all reloads. It's, those are, they end the subsonic's that I've got a very cheap, but I still don't want to. You're gonna shoot subsonic like this into the sky. For a 10, it was a long range. Well, okay. So I've got two. I've got two on like once that I can make

“hits at 200 meters with very easily. Oh, 200. Oh, we're going to be going out to, I think,”

what do they say? 350. What was the number there? 20's more than I want. It's, it's probably better than a shooting 200 was a 22. Since we're shooting out to 250 meters, which seems short. That seems short. That seems, BTS, they approved. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's all we'll go. I'm not sure. Maybe I'll try to twist some arms and see if you can get a little bit longer. I want longer. Who's there? It's a rifle.

I want a shoot to like 350 at least. Because you have a big old bullet, we don't. But well, you're shooting 223? Yeah, I won't drop that much. I'm just saying you have a bigger bullet.

Because I'm running Irons with a 3.0. It's noork surplus ammo. You're going to be more

“accurate than I am. You should just load some 3.0. It was good bullets. No.”

Yeah. Because I got all that noork stuff. And I'm using it. I got the U.S. Professional 3 gun stuff is have your blaster ammo. I'm just special clips. I tried doing that. You know, with my AR had some 55 grain blaster ammo. And then I ran some 65 or 70 grain match stuff. And I didn't like that drop is different. Yeah. And a lot of the times, like, I don't know, during a stage like shit would happen. There'd be some mayhem and I'll be like,

"Ah, now I got to run this mag. And not this one." And it's extra mental load that I just didn't want.

I just want one mag. I just shoot that stuff. It's good. It works. And I don't have to worry about.

And to be honest, the 55 grain stuff was accurate enough that I didn't feel even with a red dot. I didn't feel it necessary to go with anything heavier. You're even for a 400 meter shot.

“Cook two rounds off and just call it, right? Don't worry about it. See, this is why I have”

tiny little windows in front of my eye that you don't. You've got a good, better, sun reduction, though, with years. Oh. What other prep have I done? Okay. So I got ammo. And then, yeah, a couple friends of mine need some extra ammo. So I'm bringing some extra ammo. The extra guns I'm bringing are a Grasan MC312, but cut it out by Kyle. And lunar tactical. Mm-hmm. And that's a limited.

Yep. I'm bringing a, uh, oh, what's that? Is it really Jericho? I'm bringing a Jericho for the pistol.

Back up pistol. Runs shadow mags, right? So I'm bringing some. I'm bringing to 1911. It's magazine, right? It's already packed. And the magazines and the mag pouches are packed. And a holster in case yours doesn't work. In case yours doesn't work. Because again, this one's got a red dot on it. So, oh, I'm pretty sure it'll work for that, but probably, probably. Um, try to think. I gave the barrel a quick scrub on the 308. I didn't do anything

to the shot. I didn't do anything to the nine mill. Because those are like proper competition guns. And they don't really need to be babyged that much. It's mostly the rifle I'm worried about. Because it's, uh, what do you mean? It's an M1 brand. Don't kid an oil. Yeah, I spray it down with some mouth stall. That's the wrong type of oil. That's made in Germany. You don't want to do that. Well, and the Chinese. Yeah, probably fine. Yeah, I don't feel

like throwing some five W30 or whatever the American approved oil is on that thing. They'll be 40. Yes. W40. No, actually it would be hops number nine. That would be the approved stuff on there. Right. I don't know what the crazy toxic military GI stuff was in the war, too. Well, on the, on some of the canning surfaces, it would be grease. It wouldn't be oil. And I put some grease on there. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. I just, I like to make sure

that my stuff works. I don't like, I don't like losing matches because I didn't prep my gun or clean it. That's the worst. If I lose because I didn't shoot well, I don't know. That's so be it. But if I lose because my gun didn't perform because I just didn't do some prep that I could have done, that feels terrible. And I don't like doing that. So I try not to. Sounds like you need a maintenance crew. No, just need to know the guns. Like, Michelle, it doesn't need the maintenance.

It'll just run the shotgun. Everyone's in a while. It needs to be cleaned. And we'll just run his surface. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, the shadow will just run. Okay. Yeah. The 1911 needs to stay clean. Okay. I don't care. That's not good. Yeah.

“needs to stay clean. I think of my other pistols, the clock definitely doesn't. The”

Jericho definitely doesn't. It just runs. I have a 1911-22. That thing needs to say spotless. That things get for like 200 rounds of of 22. And then it needs to be cleaned. And anymore, and it starts to, it starts to gum up. I mean, my S.K.S. Man, you haven't dealt with it. I should bring my 22 or the, or the S.K.S from my rifle. Maybe she brings both. Just use the par. You'll be okay. You're not a pump a shotgun. Oh, right. Wow. Yes. The P.A.R.

That was, you're in limit. I, I have quick detach magnifiers. You're set. Perfect. Hmm. Hmm. For example, an ammo. Done. We need some more ammo to do three. Yep. I got, I got a lot to that. What are you, what are you running in there? P.M. C. American Eagle. P.M. C. Or some of my reloads. P.M. C. A Jason. P.M. C. That can't write there. I got some P.M. C in that one.

runs the dual side of mags. Cross mags. Cool. Yep. All right. Well, that's easier. I can, I, I'll bring both.

I'll bring my 22 and I'll bring some mags and I don't know 100 rounds of 223. I have to jump divisions. That's, you don't have to jump division. Yeah. Yep. I was more just bringing, I'm not really

“bringing it for myself. So I think the ammo, that's fine. I'm bringing it for other people who might,”

might need it, might need a backup gun or something like that. Do you know what Rancos running it? Is he running your gun? No. Is he coming? Yes. Okay. Good. I see he was in, forgot clip a limb or limb. I forgot, but he was in clip too. So I'll text him here while you're talking about what you didn't get in this week and Alaska. Sounds good. Well, I shot 250 years worth of gun and without blowing myself up, which is pretty good, which is 100 maybe years. Yeah. Maybe

not the tactical thing to do. Well, 1938, 1933, 1944. So I think like, yeah, I was just a little bit over 250 years worth two car canals as I mentioned previously. I'm, I was not a fan of the clips. I'm bringing clips. I, I'm really not a fan of the clips now. I love the clips on the channel. They are already one of them is already kind of out of shape. So they're presenting the rounds way too tall. I thought the brass ones are the steel ones. These are the brass ones. You

get the steel ones. Yeah, some get it. Yes. I'm getting replacement clips and I guess these are supposed to be consumable both anyways. Second thing is the insertion force on them are insane. On both of these guns, which is very odd, have to jump both of my hands on it. Oh, that's something's wrong. Yeah, well, lock in. So it could be these clips. Well, I see attention about that.

“Something's wrong because the only thing you should be pressing against, the only thing that”

should be pressing is that that's that spring right there. So it should be, have you, have you shot

an M1 grand before? No, I've never got bitten yet. I'm trying to think of what the comparable

would be. Like it should just be up. We won't lock in. Push it in and it shouldn't. Well, it won't lock in. You have, I have to press it very hard for it to catch the last millimeter. So I actually catch on it. It could just be a clip thing. If you run all steel clips then it could be what it is. Or, so is it easy to push in most of the way? And then there's this last part that's like, oh, I really got to get it in. Yep. It's kind of like loading things. They are so

fun all the way there. The latch, the latch is attached to this thing right here, right? And then there, I wonder if it's just too tight. It's too tight. Well, I wonder if the cases are too big or it just doesn't like the clips? It should be, but what if those are 65 cart canoclips and you're shooting 65 manlicker sconer? Do they have those? Those are both of these guns are surplus guns. So these are both 65 cart canals, six white cart canals. Only thing that's

somewhat mismatch is these are PPU 264 bullets, which is a little odd because they're kind of the only people that makes 268 bullets. That's time for both. Yeah. Yeah. So what am I missing? Did you get two cart canals? Are those both yours? No, one of them is for my phone. So I tested one of those

“circles. Yep. But they have the same issue. I blame the clip then. That's what I'm thinking.”

And but I either clips are really hard to lock in. But here's a historical anecdote. Brass clips were often issued during World War I. These are both interwar period guns. Certain interstities. At the time, steel clips were issued in World War II. So I'm thinking maybe they're more designed for the steel clips because that's what they were producing at that time. So they should be the same. But yeah, try them. Anyways, I mean, the the fix on it would be

you take the steel clip and you just start selling it. It's time for the top and the bottom of the notch on the clip itself. Yeah. That probably won't work. But we'll see. We'll wait for a new clip. So it's not like I'm be shooting these guns too too much anyway. Because it's here. I'm just going

to focus on myself here for a second. It's grabbing right there. Right. I'm going to talk to the bottom.

So maybe you just need to file from the top and the bottom to skin it out. So it's not so tight in there.

pointing at this cut of angle and trying to feed. So that's not that's not quite right. But yeah,

“clips are supposedly one time used at the time when it's designed. So they're a bit fragile. I”

end up putting one in the case and and I bent it. No, it's it's completely fucked and still have to after lay on my other ones. That's unfortunate. I could try to reband it back in. But I really have the patience around. Also the accuracy for me is abominable. I don't have to targets here. I forgot about them. But you will be able to see them on discord for inch groups at 25 yards. Maybe your gun needs the 268 bullets. It's possible, but am I really going to. Well, if I can't

have some 268 bullets. Oh, should I make some 268 per candle rounds for you? For this weekend,

so you can take them home. Oh, no, stop it. You already don't have time. And I'm probably not going to shoot. That's not a lot of time. I can just go into the garage. I can make like five or how much is in a clip. Six, I can make six. I'm thinking it's probably because my mark one eyeballs degraded also. So those are not working very well. I'm having problem focusing on the side blade. Oh, hey. These ones are 268. See? 268. I know I had some. I can, I can't, I can't already see

that they're going to still deliver terrible accuracy. But maybe we'll try that. Try them out. These guys recall so hard for no good reason. I guess because they're really short. So I'm they're lightweight. They're very lightweight for the era. And they have a steel bubble. It's just none. The length of pull off them is just ridiculous. But the steel bubble it isn't terrible. Like here's it's it's rounded. Like the the the most in the gun is not rounded on the back. It's

like that. It cuts into you. These are at least rounded on the back. Well, I wouldn't say they're painful. I'm just saying they're really strong. And the lace of pull for my arm is just they're short. Kind of stupid. They're very good. I like the pull. In comparison, I do prefer to end feel but it's not great. I still need you to trade you some

empty parts. First, I have this gigantic cheekpiece, which is in relation to the

it's crazy. I'm going to put a lot of work into that Tony. Yeah, sure. To the crazy front rail. So the bottom of the wheel is kind of sharp. So when you're trying to load it's grading your finger a little bit, which is not fun. And it makes it a little bit harder to aim down the exercise where my presentation for the gun is actually quite low. Well, no, quite high. So half of the bump has actually not on my shoulder. So it's just not very comfy to shoot. But the accuracy

was okay. I was able to get still not great though. That's like two inches at 25. So that's still like

“eight inches at a hundred. So my eyes are just not working right. Yeah, I think it. Yeah, that's that's”

just what it is. Yeah, just the stock is not great. As in that raspberry good, it's a lot smoother than a carcassel. So, I guess, being an empire. Being an empire soldier is a little bit better. The recoil is okay, serial three, which is surprising. I guess it's a heavier gun. It should be more recoil than the carcassel. Right, but it's just perceived. It's not as much. The funny thing is, I have my buddy, I'll Richard at the range as well with me. And he doesn't quite understand. Well,

he's not that into guns. Not that much of a gun guy. But he doesn't quite understand what clock on closing was. So for some of who is brand new to firearms, it might be a little interesting

“for them to use a caulk on close. Guys, because it's hard. Why is it not going into battery?”

It's just like, this is the design of this thing. So it does that, but it's just from a common sad standpoint as a not very firearm person. You might not know. So maybe run that experiment on your friends, too. I mean, I get, I use them for pelcors guns. Like, most of my, most of my bolt guns are clock caulk on close. The, yeah. Oh, really? Yeah, and field. And I have,

feel no difference between that and a clock on open. Like, uh, having access. So I would

jacks us that it was a pelcors gun as well. I'm sick. It's probably just a little more intuitive. But I did work and zero in my gun. So that's good. And I have, I have got the replacements

“files from vortex Canada for the success modifier. My, now my, if it works for BOA, which I think”

it well, it's already kind of zeroed, which is really the zero for the site, a little bit differently from the old screws. And it is reducing the wobble quite a bit. So my hypothesis is because this was a demo model. And probably people are trying to

quite a bit. And the default mount is the 1 9 3, a lower third, a witness mount. It's probably

not scrutin. I don't think the store staff to keep checking how tight the screws are. So it's probably in a semi-luestate while being flipped back and forth back and forth, causing the screws to kind of wear. And I guess in general, in the design terms, it's actually a good thing because they choose

“stronger metal alloy on the two body yourself comparing to the screws. So it's the screws that's”

wearing out instead of the tube. I get shoot this zero at 50. And I distribute it at steel at 100 and 200. And actually, I found six acts to be pretty decent for me for a target shooting application.

It would not be great for me if I'm shooting tiny low groups on paper though.

Because it'll be fine with this weekend. Yeah, it'll be great for me. I think it is the better decision. The correct decision for me to get was the six acts instead of the three acts. That's just a personal preference though. Do everyone want to go hunting the six acts will be better? I think for competition the three would be fine. But I mean, you're, I don't know your eyesight, right? So maybe the six acts is their correct way. I don't find my eyesight. Well, after

correction, my eyesight is normal for driving, but it's just I prefer to see things. I don't know. My

“brain says it's not as big as you should look at it. But I'm, I might load up some interesting”

ammo for this thing as my backup hunting, I'm going to see your two. So because I can. What else? What are you looking at? So are you going to do that? I buy you're going to have to find some coppers. You're going to want to lightweight coppers and P&D enterprising eminent and have Horned DGMX for pretty cheap. So I'm not going to pick up. All right. Okay. Oh, love it, don't stick. And since I was looking for

my pistol ammo, I was like, haven't had these things in a while. Well, not like I need them for the weekend, but I was just looking at my MacBook 27 around sticks for PCC. So that was a little sad. And last but not least, I got myself a drop-in offset kit for my, well, here's your front cut. So that should fit the optics, no problem. By got myself a blade tech drop-in offset kit for their holsters. So I have a blade tech 1911 was real holster. You'll probably position

it more correct for a draw. So I don't have to like crank my elbow so hard. But it is a little diff, it is a little interesting that it offsets it to with your leg. On the 1911, I'm not too concerned about it because I have control over the safety, but I just thought it was a little funny. You know, maybe flat would be better. Just thought. I could also, if I'm so inclined, adjust how it counts forward and backwards a little bit. And forward is probably preferred.

I'm going to try that kind of stuff before. And I find like, actually, whatever you get used to is really what you need. And make sure that when you come in that you crank those down so that gun doesn't come out of your holster because you're going to be running around with your gun holster and you don't want it pop it out and decoing you. So probably do some tests on Friday and see. Yeah. Yeah. Running was a dry guy running around the ring. Well, like the thing I like to do

Shake shake it. You don't expect this right? Yeah. I have, I have this, I have Adryl's

Mac pouches and I have a double AR Mac pouch from Blaketuck as well that will give me 40 rounds plus the 20 on the gun. Yeah. Yeah. Way more than you need since I'm shooting what, why round part target. So that gives you the ability, like, if you accidentally blow a mag a part, which can happen with those everyone's in a while, you put a mag in and you,

“you accidentally pull out the, uh, the coupler blows apart, right?”

But if what? What? What? What? Oh, it's crazy. Let me show you. If you put it in and push forward accidentally or twist accidentally, you can rip them apart. You're muted. Sorry. I have a pretty conscious sought on this particular guy to carefully insert no to rack back, do the reload and push forward. So I'm not doing on bolt, on bolt reloads, quote, generally speaking. Yeah. It depends, but so far at least at the last

rifle match we had at BTSA those. Those more than a year ago, I didn't have a problem, but I also have a whole fleet of those magazines when they're on sale. So I should be all said. You know, I mean, but by the virtue of the fact that you've got one in the gun, two on your belt, you have one extra mag that you don't actually need, probably two. And that's going to, that's going to give you back

“up. If one of those, or if the, sometimes on these, the rounds will stack up next to each other,”

and then they get stuck in there dumped out. Oh, really? Go on the next one. In a three gun matches all kinds of abuse, you put your equipment through, right? So that's where it's nice

having extras. That's true. Always like like having five pistol mags on you instead of three.

The three might do it, but get one mag that's like, oh, I forgot to load that mag last time or something happens. It's good to just dump it and get another grab another one, right? Not be stuck looking for ammo. For sure. Oh, come to your coming events. Tell your against stuff. Pretty much a bunch of. Okay, cool. Maple seeds. There's a bunch of Ontario ones coming up. Oh, I guess there's, there's that rocky rod and gun club one coming up on September 21st.

That one's open now to the public. Are you not doing that one? I'm not doing that one. No. Steve from Calgary. We'll be doing that one. Wow. Okay. I don't have to do all the helper to ones. We have two other shoe bosses here. They can do some too. And they do some too. Were you the original shoe boss in Alberta? Yes. Okay. But who cares? So there's two other guys who do a great job. And I, on the first, on the first maple sea, I demanded Adrian and he was

out hunting. I was so disappointed. They'll get me in a different one. Actually, we got a couple of a couple new IITs. I'm really excited that down Calgary and that kind of thing. And I was talking with some ranges in Calgary as well. Well, getting down there. Cool. Yeah. I don't think BTSA has heard anything.

“But if you need a contact, let me know. I'll have to set up. I think next, you're going to”

make a concern effort to do more more events in Calgary at BTSA and potentially CDATSA as well.

Cool. Have you never been? Maple sea have never been.

Oh, never been to my own interest thing. Hey, maybe soon. September 13th. In Ontario, if there's two choices, if you're lady, you could go to the lady seat at Blue Ridge Sports Men's Club. Sports Women's Club, I guess, for that day. And then September 13th as well, you can go to Smith Falls, a fishing game club. September 20th and 21st, week and after, you've got Eganville. And then on the 21st, I'll be either Rocky Rod and Gun on Sunday.

27th, we've got two on that day. We got EOSC, that one sold out. Now, we've got KGAC in Canasca, that one's coming soon. So Canasca, September 27th, if we sell out on that one, probably put another one for September 28th as well. September 28th, there's also the lady seat at the Lone Bute Fish and Game. That's in BC. In Ontario, for the next three events, Precision Action Rim Fire in Peterborough, Stitzville on October 28th and sorry, 18th and 19th,

and then BC October 26th at the Lone Bute Fish and Game. So, lots more events coming up. Next up to in Alberta because Hunting season's coming soon. So, we're busy doing that. HTG Firearms Training, my September 13th courses are already booked out. It's already fully booked.

you want to borrow some handguns from you or something like that, send them to that.

D-C-R-A, or a National Service Conditions Championship. That's happening for the first

point. Time at CFB Board. And after a six-year Hades, that'll be September 5th to 10th. That's on D-C-R-A.ca. In terms of not too sure why I'm getting deja vu about it. I feel like I've heard that like the after so many years of hiatus phrase, I'll signify it before in a long time ago. Maybe maybe six years ago, maybe I don't know.

“Three gun matches. The Chows Battle of Alberta is this weekend, September 6th and 7th. I think”

there's still a couple spots left. So, if you're like, I don't know if I'm going to go or not. Um, do you guys still sign up? August 30th at Shared Park. And then, oh, there's the team match.

There's the team match in, where's my camera? In Peace River.

And it's coming soon. And oh, Google's making me log in again. I don't know how quickly I can get this. But, uh, that one's coming up. And that's not the correct calendar. How about this one? There is a correct calendar. The team match is October 4th and 5th. It's going to be a good time. Uh, in the news, self defense. Self defense.

Yeah, a lot of things have been talked about a lot of, a lot of home invasion in Ontario. Listen, there's a few in Ontario. I just, maybe enforce your front doors or something. I don't know.

“You know what I think? I think they were always happening. And the news, it's just popular and”

to talk about. And people are fed up about it. And the news is just covering it more. That's interesting. But like, how would the news agencies know? Know what? Like, know when it is the popular thing to talk about. There's it. There's not, uh, all by their analytics on their, on their website. They put out a story about a home invasion all of a sudden. It's got like a lot more hits. Oh. Well, we got lots of, uh, we'll just cover

those more often. That's a good digital marketing thing. This is absolutely the way the newsrooms are run. Let's see. We'll get what kind of stories are getting clicks. And they run more of those stories. And I think that, um, more recently, that, uh, that case where that guy was confronted, confronted a burglar who has a kind of crossbow when he stabbed him up, uh, uh, that one has kind of reignited this idea. Paul the F's talking about it, uh, Ford is talking about it.

Uh, I think it's just like in the popular, conscious right now, be this this idea of self defense. So as they're, as these stories are coming up, news outlets are more likely to cover it because, um, it gets the clicks. I still haven't heard our Prime Minister talk about it yet. He won't. He won't even talk about like, and like anything about it. He won't talk about it. I don't think it's strategic to talk

about it. I think it's like, uh, we're a polyev, it's strategic to talk about it, but Caryn has got a bigger fish to fry right now. He's going to figure out how to make a budget that isn't a stereo, a austerity budget that cuts as well as spends more. And it makes more bigger deaths. So you've got to buy that 35. Yeah. And not because I heard from, um, we need to spend more on, uh, we need to spend more on, uh, we need to spend more on, uh, our defense spending, uh, like

Nate for as a need to requirement, uh, and we don't really have the money and our productivity sucks. So he's that's his, uh, cross to bear at this point. Targeted. You got a book. Is this a book review? No, no, no. It's not a book review. You deleted this. I was, uh, so sorry. I saw some stuff and I didn't know what was new. Yeah, our friendly in, in our gun right fight, gun privilege fight. Uh, Dr. Nor Schultz, who, I

think made multiple appearances on the secumetings as a, uh, panelist, what would you call him? One of the only row gun or not, uh, not gun restricting doctors out there. And, uh, it looks like his,

I, I thought he referred to this book before, but it looks like it's finally published with

the University of Toronto press, which is a little surprising to me and available for purchase,

“if you want to, uh, ebook or paper back up, you'll be cost you $35. Hmm. Yeah, uh, it's”

content targeted. Uh, citizen ship advocacy and gun control in Canada. And the next bit here, I think we both know about this one, uh, Eutrion slash player is, uh, toast. I haven't really seen any official information on it though. That's the funny thing. Okay, they'll just go to the website. They're having technical difficulties. Uh, uh, uh, well,

seen our solar panels put a video. Well, it's more about their channel changes and updates,

but they also talked about how Eutrion's gun and encourages people to move to Patreon, subscribe, start out in new platforms. So that's, I still remember the days where Ian from forgotten weapons was like a big proponent of pushing people to that platform. And I still remember you have a loading video that's exclusive to that platform that you don't have on

“our YouTube. So it's now gone. Um, oh, did you not keep a copy at all?”

Probably not. No. It's a rewarding video. I can make another one. I reload all the time. That's

fair. I'm meaning to put more rewarding videos on YouTube. I should do that.

Anyways, yep, players toast. You can stuff. You've got stuff. Lockhart tactical K. Everyone's been talking about this. It's on Facebook. Everyone sent sent it to me. Lockhart tactical is offering a service to turn your MRA renegade slash maverick into a semi-anomatic. Thoughts Tony. So a few things. Let me see where did I put the thing?

Well, they they posted that and then a day later, uh, make for a Jeremy, put it out or sorry, make for Maple Ridge Armory, put out a post saying, well, this is a bad idea. This gets rid of

“your, um, yeah, warranty. So there's the page on Lockhart. I think 90% confident that”

they changed the wording about the RCNP farm lab thing. At least they didn't have like a wild to find letter from them before. And I think the attitude was a little bit more firm to start and they kind of backed off the gas a little bit. And of course, MRA came out on their Instagram

was this statement, basically. I don't know how I feel about it because here's the,

here's a Canadian creator, the hunting gear guys video on the renegade. I think this is the general one. Actually, it doesn't have to release. But to my, um, how do I say, uh, lack of knowledge that, on the MRAs, the upper is actually the farm, the lower is not. So, what difference does it make? Does it make it? If the government wants to ban it, they'll ban it. That's fair. I'll

“will this make the government more likely to ban it. That's the only question you should be asking”

yourself. It's legal. I believe it's legal, like converting it. But will it get you clapped? Will the pony police choose to ban this gun? I want to know why no one have converted a Ross rifle to a hewatt anymore. A phallado or semi? It's a phallado. Well, that's your answer there because you may have phallado. Wow. It's still a straight pole rifle, same zero number. But if it's phallado, it's prohibited by definition. If it's semi, if you convert your Ross rifle to semi

auto, so be it. But if you convert a Ross rifle to fully auto, it's now prohibited fire. I'm you've created. You broken the law. That's, that's it. Well, here's my, here's my question, though, because manufacturing firearms has no long, well, this is not really manufacturing. You, this is really modifying. Well, okay. So, if you modify it, so be it. If a gun manufacturer modifies it as a service, are they re manufacturing it or they modifying it? That's where the risk

comes through, I think. I'm not re-stumping a sealer number on it. You're an old person. Yeah, I'm not saying the best part is a business that manufactures firearms. So, MRA is right to say, well, well, well, be careful with this. They're right to do that because this may be something that the RCMP say, oh, well, actually, let's, let's, this, this is all speculation by the way, guys. No one knows the, the trance or this stuff, but the RCMP could say, oh, these are easily convertible.

They're all banned now. You just need to pay a machine. It's $500 to like, going into, do a bunch of wackadoodle stuff to your gun and, and now it becomes a probably a bit of gun, and, and therefore, it's all prohibited. That's possible. Or it's possible that the government sees this. They're like, oh, looks like we have a leak. Looks like we have a way of people

can't have those anymore. No more converted. Well, yeah, they don't have a definition for converted

semi-automatic. Yeah, they do have the converted automatic. It's really automatic to semi-automatic. Well, that's pretty cool. At previous to the election, the Trudeau Liberals were talking about a change to classification, right? They were talking about liberal, simplified classification. The ones don't want. Yeah, which could be like, maybe they make some change to semi-automatic

“centerfire firearms. MagFed are now restricted or something like that. Who knows? Who knows?”

This is all speculation on this stuff because we really don't know. MRA is right to be like, whoa, hey, guys, don't do this. This might, this might be stirring up a hornet's nest. When done professionally like this, by a gun manufacturer, when then by like Rando is out there, like strictly by their law, it's not breaking the law right now. That's, that's my issue with a defire and program is not to be reasoned with. So they could say, I'm not surprised if they say,

either way, really. I found it a little funny. They're after provost was elected. There hasn't been like a gigantic increase in appetite for banning more stuff. They like, that that stuff would be coming. It's also strategic, right?

“Do they need to stoke up support right now? Right now. Yeah, exactly. They don't. They don't”

need to stoke up support. They don't need to do anything. So why? I just wait, when their popularity goes down, then they then they can start doing some stuff to, you know, piss us off and and hurt us. Anywho, hi, I personally, this is a very, again, this is a very odd thing because you point it out. It doesn't make a huge difference, but I feel like if it's the lower that's the serialized part and I'm modifying the upper,

personally, I feel better that way. I know it doesn't make a huge difference, but I'm not modifying the firearm. This is this is a big word game, regardless, like I'm modifying this part, not the fire fire, but a different part of the fire. Just consider that in the past,

“we had a shotgun that was both pump and semi and they banned it. The Benelli history. Yeah,”

what's it only? Was that ever legal? I know this path. I mean, it would have been at some point, but they banned it. It was semi and pump, which is like an odd shotgun to ban, because we have pump ends. We have just proper semi shotgun, like what's the death? I don't really know, but like like you said, like you mentioned earlier, the firearm is programmed. It was not to be recent with. It's not something that's like a logical thing. It's a political strategy construct.

It's not a safety mechanism, right? Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, see how the situation develops, and I want to give a shout out to our listener, Jim, who emailed us about this, as well. We already aware of it. It's spreading like wall fires throughout a Canadian gunnest fair.

Yeah, I got probably six texts about it the first time. And then this funny. And then when it

changed over, when MRA had their counter letter, I got another six or seven texts again, like right afterwards. You found the same gun I did. I was like, yeah, I could have done it. Yeah, yes. So Cabelo's has the Revell, their lever action, 22 on sale today for $5.99, which is pretty close to a Henry H. Triple zero one in cost. Yes, made in Canada. So Raurai doubles up. It's great. The the main benefit of this gun is actually not shown on this page, which is really interesting.

Take down. It takes down and gives you access to the barrel area, so it'll be really easy to clean. And pack and store. I would not want to pack it. Was the two pieces of what on it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Maybe just for me, it's just a case. A special case that keeps them separate.

So it's always risk around like those take down guns, right? That is awful. I do have another piece to show. Okay.

Pull up. I am trying. I'm trying. I don't know when, but CSE got more 1897, North, trench guns. The drawback of them first is there. Not made in America, so not very

on this that I have $125. That's half $525. But for this I need the design of the whole thing is

it's supposed to be a sword was a shotgun. Not the other way around. I want my sword was my shotgun. Not my shotgun was my sword backwards. This is $525 for a toy. Like, okay, it's hard. It's not fire capable, though. It's not fire radio. A Mossberg Maverick is $300 bucks and is more reliable and better than this. This is a toy that like, it looks like it doesn't sound fire. It doesn't. I don't care. I know the name of the show's sound fire, but also it doesn't

smack you. This gone well, smack you in the in a sum, which is great. All right. Oh, with that, why don't we get on to the main topic and welcome to our main topic, Stanley from True North Arms. Welcome to the show, Stanley. Okay, guys, thanks for having me. So maybe just for our listeners, just let them know kind of what true North Arms is about

“and how do you guys start it? All right. Well, we've been around since I think 2016”

may kind of incorporate in 2017 and we're your go-to AR-15 guys. Every little part of the piece in spring that you could want. That was us and I guess the idea was I live in seven Ontario and needed a spring or something just one spring, right? And it couldn't get it. It couldn't find it anywhere. So I had to buy a whole lower part skate, which was like 70 bucks or something. So I was like, well, forget this. So we started looking around and see our old business cards.

The back of the business card has a picture of like a little plastic, like almost like a fishing tackle container and it's got maybe 20 little cells in it and that was our entire inventory at some point. It was just this little one little box of springs and pins and detents and stuff. Every little piece you'd need from a lower parts kit and then people would just eventually ask

“or stuff. Okay, can you get me a magazine? Can you get me a hangar? Can you get me this and that?”

And then one thing goes to the next and now we've got, I don't know, 1500 or 1600 skews on the shelf and that started off in a tiny little garage and then it went to a bigger garage that a basement of a house and then a bigger garage again and now it's in its own dedicated building that's

I know 3,000 stuff is square feet and we're about to add a second floor to it. So we're growing.

Growing's good. Growing's good. Start off with our stuff. Yeah, I remember buying a lot of parts off you guys just because yeah, a lot of the little dinky stuff you couldn't really get anywhere else. A lot of places didn't cover it. Yeah, I like your phone number. Oh, yes, thank you. Yes, 5, 5, 6, they are 15, right? Yeah. Well, I guess the, I don't know if the new generation will get to get the reference to that but

who knows. The new generation of shooters I guess, right? But yeah, no, it was pretty cool. So that was like our deal when the, just before the first order in council came out in, was it 2020? I guess may have 2020. We were like, yeah, excronging around finding as many receivers as we possibly could just to sell because everyone wanted it. They are. I didn't do something was coming up. I don't know if anyone expected it to go prohibited or whatever. Oh, I see Ben. They thought it

was going to be just like a grandfather thing or something like that. So yeah, that was our only, yeah, it was a grandfather thing. Yeah, so yeah, that was our deal. So then we just kind of get kept getting bigger, bigger, got into the Magpool stuff, started to do our own, the lines of hand guards and things and all the little parts and pieces and had a good relationship with companies in China and Taiwan and you know, Canada and other places around the world in the United States,

Turkey, Israel actually all starts to place all over the world and we just buy all these pieces for them in and stock them up on the shelf, right? And sell them and have more and more options for everyone. Then once they are kind of, you know, went the, went way side. We kind of jumped in with both feet into the WK and then had all of us tried to do the same thing, right? All the

“little parts and pieces and spare parts and upgrades, etc, etc. And then we were, I think you guys”

had, yeah, yeah, we had updated offers with the dust, basically with the Gen 3 WK, I don't know

how many people have seen those, but it's kind of like, we were leading towards that before they got there, I guess, right? So it has a dust cover, it has a shell deflector built into it, a nice one, a lot kind of stuff, right? The leveled Picatinny top, so it matches your handguard, you can use the SD-andered handguard on it, all that kind of stuff, right? And then, yeah, that's kind of where we really got messing about with stuff, it started making more custom things and sort of growing the machine

like Busy B tools or something. It was like a hobby thing and you could do, you know, half an hour,

45 minutes to do like a muzzle break conversion or like, you know, threat of barrel or something like that, and then I guess over the over the years, we've got, you know, manual mills, CNC-laze, CNC mills, a couple different types of lasers, like laser lectures, laser welders, all the different 3D printers, the FDMs, the SLA, SLS, all that stuff, right? So we now we can make pretty much anything we want relatively quickly, which is super useful for the R&D side of things, right? Trying to keep

“I think that's kind of like we're at now, we just seem to sell, we're looking at the orders”

and stuff today of like the last couple months, just a quarter of people actually buying, and it was like shotgun parts, like lots of weird fatal upgrades, little bits, like new handguard, new stock, extended mag tubes, new springs, followers, etc, etc, and still lots of mag pull stuff going out, and but lots of mostly it's like the sling attachment points, I think, that was going out, and then of course the Norway smoke stuff is ever popular, and then there's still people buying

regular basis AR parts and WK parts, so sure those refer museum collections only or something, I'm sure. Well, I mean a lot of that stuff works on like the Renegade Strait poll or, you know, that kind of thing, the LSD, for here, but it has those, even, I mean, I mean, it's like, we talk about pistol grips and that kind of thing, there's all sorts of guns to take those,

“I mean, I would point to you to take those or pick teeny stocks and all that kind of stuff, right?”

Yeah, yeah, yeah, like lots of chassis's take like a buffer tubes and stocks and grips and stuff, so yeah, there's lots of options, so still use a lot of stuff, and it's, it's, you know, it's still really well developed platform, there's so many aftermarket companies making cool parts for it, so you can kind of convert you to firearm to use it, you know, when they are pistol grip, AR, buffer tube type thing, you can get a lot of modularity of it, I guess, right?

Really nice to make it yours. What, what shotgun tubes do you guys carry, like magazine, tube extensions? Well, our shotguns like to gear 66 and stuff for the, they're mostly based off of the Benelli M2s, so we have all those parts under the gear 66 line, and then we carry the full line of S&J hardware stuff, so S&J makes, you know, plus, now I'm plus 2 plus 3 for pretty much everything, and I would try to keep all that stuff on the shelf at all times, supporting, you know,

Canadian, other Canadian companies and stuff, so, yeah, and then there's another guy local to us issues in Guelfront area, so that's, I don't know, 45 minutes to an hour north west of Toronto, and it's, he's making all this interesting 3D printed shotgun parts, so it's called 519 Firearms, they do, uh, no different grips and cool stuff there, some SKS, cluster reason things. So yeah, we had, uh, we had one fat on yesterday, and he was talking about all the cool 3D printed

stuff he has for, like, 22 PRS, and it's incredible, like, just because the audience is small,

doesn't mean that custom part can't be made, because the cost is practically, a little cost is just in design and that kind of thing, so it's really interesting how 3D printed parts are coming in and, and taking that role of small, but still super, super useful stuff. Yeah, and you're absolutely right, the big cost of the 3D printed stuff is just the design,

“like you could, um, you know, when we're doing the SKS megwell in after, I think we went through”

like 75 iterations of just various tweaks and changes, and listen that, right, trying to figure this out, figure that out, and it's pretty cool. Well, 3D printing, because it's, you know, just a couple of blocks of piece, um, for material raw material that is, and you can get one in try to, whereas if you're trying to make something out of aluminum or steel or whatever, you know, it can be, it could take a lot of time, and, uh, you kind of have to watch the machines, have all the tools changed, blah, blah,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're trying to make something out of aluminum or steel or whatever, you know, it can be, if it works, see if it does what you want to do. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Go back to Fusion, change a couple of little things, send it again, right? Yeah, I still, are you still selling a bunch of your, um, uh, your faux suppressor, uh, breaks on that kind of thing? I know a couple of buddies of mine have those really like them. Yeah, yeah, we still sell those. I think we launched a different type earlier this year called the Torpedo, just as a slightly different look to it. Um, I'm working on a modular version that's

can kind of like the biggest customer feedback on the fake hands is always stuff like, hey, can you make me one that's, you know, my standard one is four inches long or something, right?

Can you make one that's three and a half inches? Can you make one that's two and three quarter inches and I call these kind of subtle little changes.

You're gonna screw up the positioning of the lazering or the, uh, damn, current position or you're gonna lose the thing on the back.

That kind of stuff, right? So it's, yeah, it's not as easy as it sounds just to make something a little bit custom like that. Those things are made in, um, they're really good sellers. They sell, um, yeah, quite often, maybe make them a 200 at a time.

“So it's like to make look one special one for somebody. It's just kind of, you got to catch them. Yeah, it's kind of a pain to ask, right?”

I mean, you guys, you guys, service market already pretty well. You got like the forward style or the river style where it kind of like slides in over to over top the barrel to make the gun look a lot shorter than it actually is. I like that one, but I guess you've got a short gun. You might want the forward style one that makes it longer.

Yeah, or like the SKS, you can't really, you've got like the front sight and the bandet logging stuff. So you can't put a reverse on an SKS really. I should wrap up a bunch of other stuff.

So you just put a forward style and then there's also a a reverse with linear comp. So the threads are about two quarters or three quarters the way up from the back side like the breach side. And so it has a linear comp built into it. Those are all steel and that there's the V2 we call it. So it's the, like your James Bond classic James Bond suppressor type look right. Which one fits the SKS? I didn't know you guys had one of those. Yeah, you can. So in the machine shop, we've been making all sorts of interesting muzzle adapters and things. So we sell a tool that help you to

Located die on the muzzle of your SKS. You can just thread it with 916 by 18, which is not the most common thread. But then you can get a thread adapter that go 916 by 18 to 5H24 or whatever you want. Then you can do you know, you've got a fake hand for your SKS, right, or you can put a normal muzzle break whatever you want. But I sure fired on there if you want whatever decision armament. Cool. Yeah, something to put the flames. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, some of some will make things louder. So I'm going to make it's quieter. Not really quieter, but I like to direct the sound differently.

So do you want to blow it up? Yeah, this is about the guy beside you. You can do that or you can

“You know, blast the guy down range, whatever. Yeah, the linear's. Yeah, I think yeah, I have one of the linear's over on the rack over there on one of my guns.”

Yeah, I think one of the cool things you guys are, and you were talking about three printing and that kind of thing. And yeah, you guys are making an SKS, Magwell.

Yeah, so basically what you got there is we looked at the one that HiCal made. There's one that I think, Magway, Chatted Deal with some guy in the States, the guy in the States,

possibly made the first one. So it's been kind of it's been around for a number of years, and the SKS was kind of, I don't know, not as cool as other guns that were available, right? So no one really was interested in modding them that much. But now they are, right? So, I was looking at the HiCal one and I was like, man, this thing is kind of crazy. I could probably do better than this. So, you know, sit down and do a bunch of figuring and drawn stuff and come up with this. So the big difference between these ones, they're both exactly the same model, it's just how they're printed. So one's an FDM, which is kind of like, like a hot glue gun that's just on steroids, it's just going around like crazy, spray it out a little stream of plastic.

And the other one is a SLS, so select laser centering. So it's kind of like a bed of powder like nylon 12 powder, and then it the laser is kind of melt together all the little particles and they tend not to have layer lines and they look more like an injection molded part. Yeah, they're right. Yeah. So yeah, we've done that. And then we took advantage of the idea of doing additive manufacturing. So we put the little finger grip thing in the front and put a big flared magwell on the bottom. Because the other ones that rate of aluminum that kind of boxy and straight, like I understand totally why they do it the way they do it.

It's just the limitations of Well, cost really you can get we had a quoted open on other shop how much it would cost to make one of those exact ones you're just looking at there, part of metal when it was a thousand bucks a piece.

“So I'm like, okay, that seems a little afraid. So, because there's so many weird geometries. There's no good spots to hold it and it's just it's just not fun, right?”

If you're trying to do something like this. So yeah, in this out of its own challenges as well, like the way the mag catch would normally spin on you can't do that with a big flare on the bottom, right? So it has like a special made catch arm and stuff. So we make those the metal parts in how it's from the CNC mills. And then so they're all made everything there is made in Canada, right? Except for I guess the magazine catch button that's important for more of which. Yeah, what's the yeah, what's the point making one of those?

Yeah, but everything else is done. And to get the nice writing on there, we use the lasers to depigment the plastic afterwards. So it gets your like really fine detail. Because if you use the 3D print and try to have like your logo or whatever on there, it's fine. You just

So yeah, the laser just rip it on takes like two, three seconds and it's done.

“Looks good. So yeah, what's the thing you guys using at the FD M1?”

FD M1s are PLA plus. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, it's tough. It's good. It does it's thing. And you just you can see the layer lines, right? And so if you were to bang it

really hard one direction, you could hit like the sheer plane and break it off possibly, right? I've never heard of one failing yet in the field.

Then there's the SLS ones and again, no one's ever failing fail. So one guy broke for them. This is a subcontractor kind of guy. And so we felt like he was hammering it into the gun. So he was he lost his job. Because we're trying to we had a bunch of requests to sell them as like complete firearms. I get an SKS that has one of these in it and all the modifications done and everything to it. Yeah. So we said, okay, sure, we can do this, but I'm spending my time developing other cool things that are

you know due to hit the market hopefully soon. We should have a big month in September, I think, right, for interesting SKS stuff coming out. So I was like, yeah, let's just let someone else into this installation work. It's not fun. It's not fun for me anyway. And yeah, I was in hammering them. So don't hammer it. It's plastic still. Did you hit it with a hammer? Hammer bad. Yeah, exactly. Just take a take a look at all these stuff. That looks a couple of springs and screws

and that kind of thing for the for the mag well in there. Cool. Yes. So we're selling every little

individual part. So I always felt as a consumer, I guess, that if you're knowing to buy something

that's relatively expensive and be like, oh, man, I just enloss that one little thing and where am I going to get a new one from right? And you try to call the company and you can't get through, you know, whatever happens is still annoying. So now it's like, there it is. Every every little piece that's in those things is available individually. And you can kind of see the prices, right? So the one, the FDM one is as much cheaper technology to print with. So most expensive parts and there

“this is the mag catch I believe is it's it takes a lot of time to do little weird stuff and you're”

hogging out a lot of metal on the machines, right? Yeah, getting a lot of stuff. And you guys have some stuff for the the Alcar 2 2 3 as well, right? Yeah. So that came about I think it was crusader released some sort of a sought for seal up bulls I and London. They had some sort of an adapter kit so they could you could run like an interesting hand guard on it and a folding stock. It's kind of like they had on the crypto. So I kind of have the crypto as I guess their crusader arms template rifles, right?

So we said, oh, let's figure this out. And so we ended up finding the back, you know, warehouse or whatever, the bunch of old Remington 7 870 stocks and stuff. So we made these adapters and they kind of just works. So you just need it. It just has a slightly different angle and you got to change a square of one size to a slightly different size. So that little adapter just goes in there, it was up the space behind the trigger guard on the Alcore and then you can drop pretty much whatever

Air poster on air, Remington 770 stock. Yeah, like that the Mac one, yeah, that's probably the most

“competitive. Yeah. Oh, right. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. And then yeah. So I think the”

surplus, when we have this, I think it's on there for like a hundred bucks or something. So it's a folder of side folding. So you can have a side folder, one on the Alcore, you know, whatever. Easy. Easy to do. And then some of our pages, this one doesn't seem to have it, but most of our website pages have a YouTube video link. So you can see us installing your playing with it. And like the the SKS, Meg will adapt it. Yeah, so I've been spending a lot of time this year

making YouTube videos. Just trying to answer the questions, because, you know, the customer service side of the industry, I guess, is not everyone has very different skillsets and very different

experience levels, again, with firearms, right? So, so it, the questions always seem to kind of

boil down to like the top, there's like 10 things that happen over and over and over again, right? So we just said, you know, that was to make a video. And like just a stand on this. And then yeah, so we hired a videoographer lady and she comes in once a week and we have a white board and the wall here, so anyone who has a question that keeps coming up or whatever we write it down, and I've got to talk about it or talk through it on the YouTube videos. Sometimes it works,

so it doesn't, like, I think that SKS Meg will run there. There's like two or three additional videos that are like, okay, here's the next ones that are coming out right, or here's the here's the issue from the last one and stuff. So yeah, it seems to be decent conversations happening in the comments section. And what this one here, there's a lot of Americans giving me harassing me, saying, why would you reckon SKS? It's a classic one, blah, blah. Do you want to

detachable Meg, just get an AK and then just the Canadians come to the rescue and say, you know, we can't have an AK, blah, blah, blah. There's a buffer board every day, it's like,

spray you our SKS as I promise. If you keep them legal in this country, I promise. Yeah, I've got

“some old old videos on SVT 40s and and most in the guns, and I talk about them being like $200”

or $300 guns and people. Yeah. Yeah, and we're like, we're, but yeah, so we offer some services, like the hardest part of the, this adapter is cutting the hardened steel and the receiver in the bolts. So I have some that I just kind of mill out of the milling machines and then they've done all the hard stuff for you. You can do it with a Dremel. But it's not the most fun job in the world, we'll say, whereas if you just modify your stock yourself, it's just your day of cutting water

polymer, so it's nice and easy. You can you sand paper to clean it up or nice and slow, whatever. But the cutting the metal, it's like, pretty much have to use a carbide cutter. You can get away with some like, cobalt, high-speed steel things, but they're not going to last very long and you're going to get millions of little slivers and it's just not fun. So you know, slam that thing into a milling machine. It just hogs out the middle and, you know, a few minutes and then one should be burning

and away you go, right? I love carbide cutters for for gunsmith stuff. They work so fast and I'm

not very patient. So I like taking a lot of steel off. Yeah, but it's always such a challenge.

“There's some serious kind of stuck with small ones. I think we used like six millimeter ones or just”

under a quarter inch and you can't push it that hard. But you can try, I guess, but you just kind of break it. Hi, RPM. So that's the key, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, it's got a bunch of neat patches too. Yeah, so that's just kind of like some swag stuff and this just comes from, you see the guys at the range, we're all wearing all their fancy gear and stuff, right? And they sometimes I'd see people around Southern Ontario with like empty Velcro patches. So I was like, why do you have an empty patch?

But something on there, right? And so here's some kind of funny ones. And if you were to read around the website, a lot of the product descriptions have, you know, kind of joky or their pretty serious funny comments and stuff, right? So that's this is just kind of competing on with that idea, right? Like it's not the most serious patches, but they're they're interesting, man. And yeah, some of them are like the DNA ones and the top left. Those are like a rubber with like a Velcro

back and yet it on sort of just cloths like our embroidered fabrics, I guess, right? But with Velcro

“on the back like these ones, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure I got, I think I just have a bunch of”

your stickers. I think I have a bunch of whole bunch of DNA stickers on my on my door over here. All right, we'll get you a teacher for something. We're looking into that now for more swag, the YouTube leave you like feed more swag. So we're having issues with the website and integrating with like a print on demand place. And so literally today I picked up a bunch of sublimation printing stuff. So we're going to take our go next week at making t-shirts and stuff

ourselves. So we can't have all these funny, you know, logos, sands and make whatever going appropriate shirts you want. And no one's going to stop us now. Yeah, yeah, I guess what kind of stuff you guys working on next, that you can share. Yeah, so it's good to share anything. But

the problem is that I find if you share something, then you're going to, you know, everyone's asking

like, oh, where's that thing? Where's that thing? And you're like, ah, that one didn't pan out, man, sorry, it wasn't doable or it's not affordable. Like, yeah, we made a pretty cool AFG type thing, like, it's kind of like a direct-down lock, make-able type clone with a couple different features. Then we look at the manufacturing cost of it in Canada and everything else in getting the materials. Since we're not doing like a mass production injection molding type stuff for doing like 3D printing

and just kind of look cool in this and that. It was our cost and that up being more than the make-able retail. So it's like this is, it's cool. I can tell you about it. We could do it, but it's a no-go because who's going to pay 50 bucks for a $30 part or something, you know, like it doesn't make sense. But what I'm planning to release this month for SKS is for sure is a bunch of consumables. So we've got new pistons coming and we've got new springs because the pistons

are, they seem like they're hard to come by really, right? Don't really see them that I've never

seen them. Yeah, and if you do, like we have an auction website as well, right where people will sometimes tend us, I heard when you're previous videos, you had a whole box of just random parts that wasn't working out for you or whatever. So people will just mail us that and we'll put it up for sale. We kind of like organize it and make it fit something interesting, right? And so in some of those things, we've seen SKS pistons with trigger groups or whatever go up and, yeah, they always

it's kind of like the wolf performance trigger spring kit, I believe, the enhanced firing pins. So there's some issues that, you know, before the show, we were talking about interesting failures, modes for firing and related problems. And so with the SKS, some of them have like a return spring in the firing can channel, so don't. And if you, it's not as easy as just ramming a spring in the SKS without the return spring, because it's a different slightly different

geometry on the firing pin that's required. So we should have those firing pins coming out, those return springs and all aluminum SKS chassis. So in some of our videos on the website, you can see them. So kind of long story short, back and up a bit, years ago there was

matted or and before that there was war track and before that there was pierce, I was always trying

to do something with SKS as well. So pierce and stuff is really cool. I made it in my structural again last year and it couldn't find a zmail again. So pierce, if you're listening, email in, buddy, my, my name's in the bottom there for my email address, but yeah, so pierce is deal seem pretty cool. It was like a chassis that would allow you to use an AR15 style trigger, like drop in cartridge trigger so you can get a much better trigger weight than anything else.

“I think I've heard about that. Yeah. And I believe he was basically ready to go. He just needed”

like support to make it stuff, right? So I'm kind of able to do that now. If there was interest for it, of course, you know, marker poles and all that stuff, turning on the price. But what we got

now is it's similar to, it basically is the war tack chassis that was never released. And then

matted or worked on them for a while, matted or armed, so they called them the saber choose. I think they're in conjunction with high cal, a couple years for thinking back to like 2017 year or now, 2018. And so it's like a full drop in chassis, you get like a picketini rail on the top, left to right bottom, and it has kind of a cool looking flared megwell thing that doesn't really work out. This looks like having seen the drawings and stuff for it. It was designed to be a

detachable megwell kind of thing or like an integrated megwell for the SKS. It just kind of who was done backwards and upside down kind of thing. So like where the meg catch arm is supposed to be, it's on the wrong side and on like the wrong end. So it's just they got all mixed up. So they fix them up, whatever. And then so I ended up getting all of it. Everything that's left from all those factory production runs. So like 400 or 500 chassis. Oh wow. So it's going to be coming in,

“I believe next week. And then we're going to start hitting them to the market. So the first ones”

they're going to go are going to be just using your regular OEM duck bill type things. And what I guess you could use those detachable megs, they're a pro meg or whatever, right, the duck bill megs. And there's that mod that some people do with the plastic all under duck bill megs. So they kind of cut off the duck bill, then they kind of, um, the block. Yeah, like doing a block thing. So you could probably run those with those chassis. And then after that,

it could be other ones coming out with a, it'll feature more, you know, who ideas and more features.

But those are the first ones coming out next week. So they're going to run an air 15 buffer

tube. So since you have an air 15 buffer tube, you can run any stock you want on there from a PRS to a just a standard M4 style. And they also run the, um, the air grip on there too. So again, you got to get a good Gillian options through mag pull and your fab defense whoever you want, right? All sorts of options for, for a different grip. So now you'll be able to take it as cash with a wooden stock that looks kind of old school. It looks kind of classic military and make it look into something.

It's like all metal and, you know, aluminum chassis with picatinny rails and, you know, fancy adjustable telescopics, stocks and, you know, sniper grips and scope on top and all that good stuff, right?

“So that's what's coming out in the near future. I think there's some other, uh, muzzle breaks”

and stuff too. But, uh, yeah, I mean, guys, um, you were, when you were mentioning springs, and I kind of think for the SPS, like, yeah, you know what, um, the other platform that's impossible to find springs for right knows the M1 grants. And there's a whole bunch of guys out there that have the, like, rebuilds where they've, they've gotten the receiver and then they've built one up or they've had, that's, there's a guy, that's actually a guy in North of Empton that does that too.

That builds a bunch of those M1 grants. Be cool to get some more of those parts out there, recoil springs, like consumables, right? Recall springs, hammered springs, all that kind of stuff. We'll for probably carry those. Yeah, I think they do. We used to, before the tariffs and all the issues with exporting and importing and stuff, we used to have almost a full line of wolf springs up here. It's just, now it's just not feasible, right? Much you want to pay 80 bucks for a hammer spring,

which you probably don't, because you can buy anywhere else for 250 or something like that. It's not that bad, but it's just a serious pain in the butt. So if it's just, there's so many

million questions, and then they go and inspect it and, you know, all this stuff, because it's

all its evil gun parts, and it's just that way, but it's check it out, you know, make sure that spring isn't going to poke someone's eye or something automatically. So, what does it mean if you're

“not virgin spring material? Was it made from Canadian steel or is that American steel in there?”

Yeah, exactly, right? Or just, I don't know, that's just the questions you get from customs agents. I'm sure they're trying to do their job, and it's like, it's good they got to do their jobs, but sometimes it's just frustrating, because it's like, come on, man, like, here's the paperwork, it says what it is, it's in a package, the package says what it is. I'm not trying to, you know, cover your, you know, pull the curtains over your eyes or your eyes. Yeah, just want my stuff,

here's the invoice, it's on their website for like the same price, so I'm not trying to

rip you off for a price or something, like it's just, this is legit, it's do it. But it can be a pain in the blood. I saw, yeah, one of your previous videos on the ITAR exports, so all those springs are considered ITAR. I think they are anyway, they might be moving to ear, but it's under ITAR, it's just a pain, like it's just not fun, right? It's not the normal spring, it's spring for harm. Yeah, but you didn't get all the minutiae, you could say, well, the air 15 pistol grip screws,

dome head slotted screw, that's a quarter 23, that's an inch and a quarter long, so that's also used in my stove, but it's also an evil weapon of mass destruction, and it's, you know, 18 dolphins died because we talked about it right now, and all these things, you know, whatever you attach it, it makes the fire and go for an automatic. Yeah, it turns up pistol into a assault rifle. Yeah, fully fully automatic. Well, it's automatic, and it's just, it's crazy,

you get your clip mags, there's just dump and clip mags, like you wouldn't believe, right? So you gotta, you know, watch those evil screws. Um, yeah, I'm gonna ask them. So, uh, yeah, like, let's see anything else next one on. There's a lot of the stuff right now, we're operating our machine shop, we're changing out our mill, so we have an older CNC mill, and that's, we're getting a new one in a couple weeks, I think, it's coming in, where it'll have four facts us now, so we'll

have the ability to make some more cool stuff, and then coming down the pipeline with that should be more like a muzzle brakes and stuff. Just like, again, a lot of muzzle brakes come from the states, they're pricey because of, you know, tariffs or itar or just sort of that or whatever other issue

“you have to deal with, where you can just like, let's just make it here, like, it's more of the brand.”

It's just pricey because of the brand. It's a $300 muzzle brake that realistically should be 70, 80. Yeah, like, yeah, exactly. Right, it's just, uh, we see that with some of the surfer stuff. Like, there's surfer stuff's great. I'm gonna hate you for saying this, but it's like, I'm looking at some of these things and you're like, you can see how they make it even, like, they didn't even bother, like, cleaning up the, uh, the machining marks and stuff, right? Like on

glass bead blast before they bloom good or whatever, right? It's just like, this is mass mass produced and they skimped out on stuff and it's still 250 bucks or something, right? Yeah, well, the money makers for them. Yeah, so we can, yeah, we're going to hopefully do stuff like that and, um, um, yeah, that's cool. Because a lot of the, um, all the attachments in the U.S. like, there'll, there'll be a muzzle brake and it's also an attachment for a suppressor and

we don't really need those here. We need the muzzle brakes, we need the linear comps, we need the stuff that, you know, there's so many of our guns that are from the states. They have that, that threaded muzzle and yet we don't have an appropriate thing to put on them over here. Yeah. Oh, spitting off. Yeah, Tony's got one right there. That thing made me go fully semi-automatic. Just look at that, those creed. Yeah, but, uh, yeah, I guess on the topic of muzzles, like,

so what I'm noticing trend wise is, um, since the latest gun bands in January or February of 2025, there's been more, like, seaside guns and European stuff for ACL, Dell's got to prepare a stuff and, um, we got Tika and you got how all these different things that are not from North America. So they've got different muzzle threats, right? Like, we're just kind of standardized on the half 28 thread for your, you know, 5, 5, 5, 6 calibers and pretty much the 5, 8,

“it's 24 for anything that's 30 calibers, right? But still metric. Yeah, right? What's the metric?”

Hello. So, um, and even if you did, so you go buy yourself a fancy seaside, whatever, right? And you can't, you can't find a, uh, muzzle brake. And then sometimes people would, uh, ask me to say, I'll buy this fancy surefire thing that's, like, you know, infinitely hard, because it's ready for a suppressor mount and all this stuff. And I just want you to change the

threads, you know, and, um, metric to imperial conversions isn't always the easiest thing. So

someone would be like, yeah, you got, like, a 5/8. So, because put like an M14 thread on it or something, like, well, like, can't we can't do it, man? Like, it's, yeah, we'll have our way. Remember, most of the AK stuff even spins the other way around. So, like, you've got to wipe it out and then

like, wipe it out, weld it up, wipe it out, refinish it, and then thread it or whatever. Right? So,

I just started on my CNC layer, I've tried up a cool little gang thing, and so I can just kind of bang out muzzle thread adapters. So, that's kind of what I've been doing in the last couple of months. So, we got, I don't know, 20 different sizes now. So, it's kind of all those standard things. And, uh, yeah, you can convert whatever weird muzzle size to, uh, half 28 or 5/8 or whatever else. So, even like, for the SKS, um, you're saying, like, like, this is Soviet stuff. The

“comedy stuff should be, um, 14 by one left would be the most common muzzle break size, right?”

Uh, threads, which is seriously paying the ass. Like, um, I spent a lot of time messing around with nuts and bolts and stuff, because I'm, you know, just a redneck plan with tractors and bulldozers and

whatever I'm doing, right? And just to figure out a left hand thread, it's just like some sort of a

brain, you know, my, right? It's not tidy. Not tidy. Yeah, it's just like, I don't know. It's just, so like, nope, not doing this. This right tidy left to be see. So, um, I figured out like the, the average SKS barrel diameter is like perfect for 9/16 threads. So, it's like, here's a little adapter thing. You can stick in the bore of your SKS so you can run a die just on the end of your muzzle and, uh, you'll thread it and then thread it after on it. Then you

can, yeah, basically you're just putting a die and tapping it yourself and, um, the hardest part of that is like, just to make sure your die doesn't like go sideways or something, because, um, some of those, uh, uh, SKS barrels can be pretty soft. So, if you just kind of, if you get the die out of weird angle, it'll just cut. It doesn't care. So, a hill end up with threads that are really, really bit in, like, dug in hard and one side and the other side is like, not even scratching it.

“So, muzzle. Thanks for the baffles. Yeah, a little bit of a baffle-strike kitchen, right?”

So, gang went off the end. But, uh, yeah, so it's just also difficult to, uh, my, my high point, uh, impacts the baffles. Yeah, it's, it's cut off. That's from the factory, too.

Did you forget that fixed before the bad? That, why are you never going to get fixed down? No.

No, but that actually happens. I think of fair amount, like, uh, I had a, um, I should feel like I've hangouts. But it's a Smith and a lesson in performance center, 22, something or other. And I had to get rid of the muzzle break on grid. And it was awesome. I would just shoot and shoot and shoot this thing like crazy, right? I ended up putting a, um, pretty much what it was a copy of. But it was a, we call the Knights of the Roundtable on this thing.

Anyway, after, after, like, two or three hundred shells, I started getting like, uh, like, really bad keyholes in my targets. I'm like, what does it go in on? Like, this thing worked flawlessly for the last, like six boxes or whatever. What's going on? So I look inside the muzzle break and it's just like full of lit, like as the 22's, our jacket is right. It's just making a terrible mess to clean it all over. It was actually baffle striking on like lead build up. Yep. So it was,

kind of surprising. You guys really. Yeah, if you guys ever get into making muzzle breaks for, uh, for 22's, make sure they're generous. Yeah, they, they will start to do that pretty, uh, pretty quickly. I know, I've got a, I've got a couple of 22's that have like, uh, bird cages on them, and that kind of thing. I have to twist them off here once in a while and clean the, clean the junk out of there. Yeah. Well, I guess that's the hard thing about the muzzle break. Like, um,

it seems at least around here. The average customer is getting older, I think, in the, in just like the number of young blood or whatever coming into the sport is, um, it's not as, as much as it should be, right? So we're getting guys who are like in their 70's and they're like, hey, I really love muzzunting with my, you know, son, grandson, whatever. And, uh, I just can't shoulder a 300 win

“mate getting more because that's what he was supposed to use, but it's, he's got this issue, that”

issue. And, um, he wants a muzzle break on it, right? So if you put something that's super generous on there, it's super easy. You can do it, right? Put a bird cage on there, right? It's got a half inch hole from the middle fantastic, but it's not going to do anything. You have to have it like his close as possible. But then once you get this like some diminishing return, when you get so close, to the, the board size, um, there's like, um, seem like there's like almost like air to press

air issues. Like how it's touching off the muzzle or break and device and so like, move your projection and different directions and stuff. Choose like consistent though. Yeah, cool. Yeah, what you guys doing out there, like let's average shooter like, uh, it's all over the place. So I'm going to go with the three gun matches this weekend and it's all over the place. There's guys shooting and one grants, got shooting ass cases. Uh, lots of people going to 22 for the rifle. They'll get like, uh,

the raceboat 22's like the SBI is the delasks, but I guess delasks is going out. So no more delasks

five, nine, seven conversion, but I've got like the old, the really old five, nine, seven mags,

which actually run. Yeah. Uh, so I'm running that in mind. The guys are running like a 22's and also it's all the nonsense. For the shotgun, that hasn't changed at all. And for the handgun, for those who have it, they run it and for those who don't, they run a division where you are required to run a handgun. But it's definitely getting slim pickings on the, on the three-gen side of things in terms of what you can use that's actually fun. Like a World War II rifle is kind of

fun to shoot, but at the same time, it's pretty like that's a $23, $2500 rifle to run, right? It's, it's kind of expensive to feed as well. So yeah, about your hand or something. Yeah, I've got some North that I bought a wildback for 70 cents or 60 cents around. So, but that's just because I've, I've been around for a long enough. Someone get it into the sport. I think they'd be looking

“at an A22 or maybe a Troy P.A.R. or something like that right Tony. That's what he's running for three”

again. Yeah. Yeah. For, for my major sport, it's kind of a little bit different. After he banned

everything except the homestead at this point, PCC as a sport basically died. A lot of, it's either

a lot of us who is trying to get into Epsych where we don't have a handgun. That's why we picked PCC route or there are some pistol guys who are kind of dipping into the sport. So, all the pistol guys went back into pistols. Fortunately, it looks like many rifle is starting to gain a little bit momentum in Albert at least. So, we're seeing more matches. I think the first sanctioned official medical rifle match just happened in format not too long also. So, we'll

probably see a little bit more raised out 10-22s. I see a few TM-22s on the line as well. So, that will be a few interesting-22s out there for sure. Yeah. We got an adapter. I made it as forget why we didn't sell it. There were some small reason why we didn't sell

it. But it's for the TM-22s so you can put like a sling melt right at this stock.

“So, it's coming out because I just don't remember. I think I needed a different, I want to try”

all the different options. You know, you've got the RAA Rock Island imports version. You've got the Kenak version, the Deer version themselves. All these different things, right? So, I want to make sure to watch out all of them or not. There's the kit at and there's the standard version as well, the cheaper ones. Yeah, there's a bunch out there. I might not be a bad little market to get into either because there's not really much out there for the TM-22. There's that Alexes mod guy who's got

the upper receiver and a couple of other things. And, wow, no, I don't know for the rest of it. It would help sell some pistol grips and that kind of thing as well. Yeah, it's not a bad idea. Yeah, I don't know. What were you saying about Zalask? I didn't hear anything about them. See, they said they're not going to make guns anywhere. I thought I thought I thought I heard on a suggestion that they were shutting down soon.

But we had to kind of add gentlemen's agreement from way back when we started making barrels. I guess we started making barrels when we were doing the PS90, non-restricted conversions. And we started to, we just made some 22 barrels and then had a gentleman's agreement with Zalask that we wouldn't touch 22's and he wouldn't touch PS90's. So, but I guess if he's disappeared, then I can go back up to 26. It's fun. There's a lot of people getting into it and

it's like the analyst cheap, the guns themselves are low recoil and fun for target practice. Disappointing the shoot compared to an AR, but at the same time, this is where we're at. Yeah, we're trying to function though.

“We're not fat. Well, we're talking about some malfunctions. Yeah, lots of malfunctions. That's what”

22's. There's like no way around it. My AR would be like good for, I mean, mean time between failures. It's like a thousand rounds and my 22 is like maybe a hundred, maybe a hundred. Yeah, but that's, you just have to get used to it. You have to get good at it. You're trying a full auto 22. I have, let me think about that. I have not, no, I haven't tried any civil auto, I don't think. I'm sure a bunch of stuff fell out of but not a full

of a 22, no. Yeah, well, if you're in a states or wherever, you could try to find something, but they're reminiscent of those old, like carnival games where they have like a BB gun full auto BB gun and you got to shoot the star out of the paper. Yeah, since I was like no recoil at all, you just see the paper, you know, kind of just disappearing vaporizing interference in you. It's hilarious in the cases. Yeah, so you're the little casing and clicking

black and stuff. But yeah, I shot a bunch of suppressed stuff in the states and yeah, the

the bolt click clacking back and forth. Yeah, so yeah, you know, it's good when they, the firing

“pins allowed is part of the gun. Yeah, cool. Well, anything else you wanted to mention, Stanley?”

Uh, I'm really man. I kind of got my list here. It's the SKS stuff. Yeah, talk about that. Smoke. Well, I guess you can talk about the VR66. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's the shotgun that we kind of worked with a company in Turkey called Radical Fire. They're bigger in the states than they are in Canada. I don't know if they're in Canada at all to be honest, but kind of work with them to help develop this thing. So it started life as a, like, kind of like in Turkey, I guess it

started life as a original Benelli M2 that was imported by Bureta. I think it's a United States market. So it has some different features right off the hop. You can easily ghost load it and it's got the two parts, uh, make catcher, um, cartridge catch, latch thing into the mega tube. And we worked on how to modify it to be kind of faster. So we did a bunch of cutouts on the bottom. So there's an old video of me somewhere on the internet, literally loading this thing,

like double up loading it, wearing oven mitts. It's just like you can wear any gloves and it just you can do it. So it's all those performance mods are kind of done. Right? You got the, uh, lightweight bolt, um, so it's kind of, it goes a little bit faster. You can change the spring in the back for the inertia stuff, uh, oversized controls and everything else, right? Extra internal jokes. And then, recently we launched a, um, there's some requests for 20 gauge versions. So we all have 20 gauge

version now. Yeah. And, uh, I don't know if you have any auto, nickel carrier, you know,

“I think only one person's bought it does. So it's a big flop. But, um, well, maybe if like,”

I don't even know this is a thing. Like for people who who have youth that they want to shoot three gun or six shotgun, that would be it because 20 gauges will have less recoil. How's the

weight compared to the 12 gauges at less? Yeah. It's probably exactly the same. It's basically

all the same. It's just got a slightly smaller barrel. It's a little bit of the weight on the barrel. A little bit, but it's so severe, right? Um, even even, so even if it doesn't save any weight, it'll save on recoil then. There's normally a lot of 20 gauges will be lighter, quite a bit lighter than the 12 gauge version. But if it is, the recoil is the same. But, but at gun that's about the same weight in 20 gauge should be a little bit lighter on recoil, which would be kind of nice.

Yeah. So with that video, you can see there. We go through all the differences between the the bare bones, which is people asked for, like, just an unmodified, unmolested version, and then there's the max, the light, the lights of 20 gauge, the max is kind of like a hybrid.

It's evolved into basically an M4 performance M4 at this point. So what's got all the

cutouts and everything else? Um, it's got the piston system, we don't know, like, so the double pistons and the inertia system, all the same oversized features and stuff. Cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool. So last time we had to, like, shoot a skid of max, it just came in the other day. So they're going to go up for sale probably this weekend or early next week. We just got to do our little tweaks to them, and we do an inspection in Canada. So like, that seems to be the biggest complaint

that I heard or read online and talked to people and stuff about Turkish shotguns is that, you know, you buy this thing and it jams. It doesn't cycle. It's dirty. Yeah, something's wrong. So we kind of go through them all by hand and anything that's slightly problematic will fix it.

“And if it gets all scuffed up, it goes to the auction. If it doesn't, it goes to the shelf, right?”

For general sale. And so yeah, it takes some time to do all that stuff. But yeah. Yeah, it's a business. It's an old fuds. Yep. Oh, yeah, an old fuds get. I'm a friend with the old fuds at the the local gun clubs down here. I took, I think it was of a bear bones that I took to a trap shoot one time. So it's got an 18.6 inch barrel. It's evil. It's black. It's fully semi automatic. And oh, every respect of the word and just terrifying

to the old fuds, but they're break actions, right? And so then they said, you can't shoot that, you know, bubble blast got a two short of a barrel, this that and the other. So I came back and on the shelf, there was a savage 110, like slug gun, bolt actions, slug gun. So I made a 48 inch barrel for it. And then I needed an ended up having to run a six inch adapter for the forcing going. So I ended up with a 54 inch barrel. And then I took that back and said, is there, is this how's

this looking right? And naturally I put a, uh, was another shock and we had called the Invictus. It says every company who imports Turkish shock and sad it. So it's kind of like a spring assist

bolt action gun with a 50 something inch barrel and went to the line. And you should have seen, it was, it was fantastic smiling. It was easy to do. You just hit them with the barrel. Yeah,

basically at that point. The weird thing is that the standard velocity shells are, they slow down

so much before they leave the barrel that they every shot sounds like a squib load. So it's like you're around the line and it's just like bang, bang, bang, bang, and then I go to shoot it's like, like just like a fart in the wind kind of thing. It's like, oh no, did it go off? But then the bird broke really nice or something, right? So I'm like, oh, okay, I didn't have a word. It just, uh, doesn't any sound the same for the barrel. So freaking long, right? But yeah,

so much to do list a build, so I'm like ridiculous, slow on gun. Like one of those, um, what I call like poker cards, huge guns. That's got like a 50 inch barrel or 60 inch barrel and all these like super super tight jokes and stuff. And go to something like the provincials for that. Just to see what I'm doing. Just to just to stir things up and wrestle their jannies. Yeah, Sally, it'd be, having a great time. We're to get closing in on 52 minutes here. I want to

make sure you got some time to yourself tonight. Uh, thanks for coming on. Uh, hiring people,

“find your stuff. How can people, uh, like YouTube channel, I think you mentioned website?”

Yeah, so we got, uh, we're mailing lists. If you want to join that as promos and stuff, um, websites, uh, www.trunortharms.com. Um, we're on gun nuts as Trunortharms. Uh, I think we're on Reddit. We got Instagram, Facebook, all that stuff. Uh, YouTube is, uh, the handles just at Trunortharms. Um, I guess you can click any of those videos that are on the website. You can probably get to the rest of those stuff right on YouTube. But yeah, I think we launched to record about four

YouTube videos a week. And I think we published too. Wow. So it's, uh, um, yeah, there's always something

coming on. There's lots of weird stuff and reserves in case you'll go on vacation to shot show or something right. Cool. And we'll make sure to, uh, to link to all that stuff. Um, yeah, thanks again for coming on and, uh, hope you have a great rest of your night. Yeah, you two, man. Thanks so much, check it out. Thanks, thank you, Stanley. Thanks again to Stanley for coming on and telling us all

“about what's going on with Trunortharms. Uh, getting into listener feedback. Oh, did you check the emails?”

I did. Um, yeah. Somehow I thought I was slacking and I pulled up the email. There was two emails today. But none of them were to be read. So, oh, skip that part. Mm-hmm. And we have YouTube comments to comments from Eddie, very on time. Kyle, it will be interesting to find out once you have used them if an ARD helps to reduce more glare in conjunction with a sunshade. For hunting a BC now, we can pick up or get the little while separate topic. If you had a species

licensed in the mail, it is plastic card that gets notched out when filled. We do not attach it to the game. Interesting. I will prefer that. I don't understand how the whole attaching it onto the

game thing helps anything. And the second comment from Eddie, congratulations Matt and team

Canada. Matt mentioned his rifle shoots lights out. I'm curious and hope he can comment to clarify that. For example, average five round group at 50 yards and a hundred yards. I think I can likely ask if we can get a response from Matt for you, Eddie. So, what was the thing? Oh, yeah, yeah, I need to figure out how I'm going to attach the tag to my game if I need to release it to you.

“Why? You're not going to release any game to me. If you should dare, you're taking that shit home.”

I am not taking your deer. What? What are we going to do with all the meat and stuff? Makes him jerky. God. I'll head it up to Thomas then. Go out. There's a dog. Yeah, I can give it to the dog. You don't mind. You'll take it yet, but release to me. Hey, that seems like a waste. Anyways, that's that's something to talk to. We're about November. Go back. Sure. Fun. Earlier. I can't. They're all all the weekends are booked.

Okay, I could show you my calendar after this. Sure. Facebook. Yeah, we got one of those discord Patreon. Yeah, we got those things to Cabello's on. I'll do that. They had a phone. No more player. No more player. I feel like the email shows and the email is sent by a [email protected]. Shoutout, Tony. I'll give a shout-out to listener Kevin at Sergeant Bay Combat Club for sending us an email. He was

given us a heads-up on the news from Lockhart Tactical and MRA. Also give a shout-out to Darrell at

Wartax Canada. They didn't have to express me to screws, but they did. So I'll get to use a more stable magnifier during the match. I don't think it's going to make a huge difference, but it is nice to know I have replacement screws. Cool. For myself, the Maple Seed instructor is thanks for a great

“year. I felt really well taken care of this year. I don't think I had any solos. Did I have any solos?”

I don't think I did. Last year I had a bunch near before I had a bunch this year. I didn't have any solos. I had professional instructors with me the whole time. I felt very well taken care of. When is Kelly going to come back on? We need to compare the scores and send sandwiches.

“That's going to be in November though, because... Oh, tell us to have.”

When did you see how many of Alberta? No, because... No, November. I'm hunting and December. No.

Just sure that's right now. Come on. If I do... Here's what's going to happen. If I do an event

and it's that cold, you know what's going to happen? My shoes will freeze and they won't be able to survive the day. Sounds great. That's the Canadian experience you want. Hey, I mean, I would do it, but I have gear that allows me to shoot at that temperature. Most people don't.

“Just just a lot of deal. It's fine. Jump into the icefall. Come out. Where's your frozen roof?”

Maybe I have a couple of the winter seed patches, so maybe we could run one of those. Let me kind of fun.

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