Hour 1: An Hour Of Mystery-Solving

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Little slide step. Zaz, why are you so sore? What's the matter with you? I see you hobbling around. Thank God.

Dan, I am so sore. I just mentioned that. Yeah, he just said it. He said it. He said it for the audience is just started listening.

It's okay. He's just joining it. I am hobbling around this whole morning, Dan. On Saturday. You're like the Chris Chris.

Come on. Come on. On Saturday. On Saturday morning, your employees, me included. We signed up and we played in a street hockey tournament at the Florida Panthers arena.

On Saturday. Who played? Me. Chris Roy. Ethan.

We had Ragtag group. We had Gabe, who was a ringer out there. Sneaky good hockey player. Rose. Useless.

Oh, wait a minute. She's saying she didn't rise to the occasion. And let me tell you something. Hockey is very hard to play. They were drunk with uncle.

Hockey was that. It's very hard. I mean.

That's your first mistake right there.

No, no. He was a stud for real. He plays ice hockey goalie for real, right? We had two players that had hockey experience. Dorking goal and game.

“But isn't work kind of like, you want a bigger guy?”

You see how big the pads are. Pedro. I saw the score of the last game. They needed something else in the goal. So, Dan, it's it's three on three in each team as a goal.

But where the rest of you just like, you've got to know how to skate. No, that's not a part. I'm a street hockey. I'm a street hockey. I'm a street hockey man.

Like guys had like bandanas and chains and stuff. I'm sorry. I missed the street part of this. So, like, Dork is in every goalie for all the teams. We're like real goalies.

The pads, everything like geared up, looking like, Stray gave a brobsky out there. It was a ball, by the way. Yeah. But not a puck.

But we're all there. And the regular street hockey ball. Yeah. The fact like you don't know is a regulation street hockey ball. Yeah.

That's in bounds. Yeah. Oh, really. And the other teams you played for,

“we're definitely all like real ice hockey.”

That was the annoying part. You know, they knew what they were doing.

And if I could tell you, Dan, two minutes into the first game.

Oh, so tired. I can't even breathe. Oh, you bent over the wall. Oh, yeah. I came out of the gates a little hot.

And we all, we did way too quick. I'm, you know, we're changing on the fly. You don't have to wait for the whistle. We all open the door. I got to run out of the game.

A thing of like, Zask, come in for me. No, no, no, I'm not ready yet. Oh, yeah. I had to wait more. We were all looking to get off the wall.

I had to wait the snow. The sun was waving. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was like, yeah.

How you got to come out in the guy will wave off. Yeah. I was on the other side of the board. And Chris, yeah. Zask, come here.

No, no, no, no. I'm already. I mean, when I would go out, I would just walk away from the board. So there was no option. There was like, word.

You guys are the opposite of the picture. Who refuses to come out of the game when the manager-- That's right. That's the pullup. I mean, great.

You guys are in the bullpen as the picture of refuses to go into the game because he's-- I put breeze down to wind it. You can't play if you can't breathe. You guys play two games. You guys play two games?

The first game. Okay. The score was respectable.

But if I could tell you, the other team had the puck 99.9%. And that's putting it lightly.

Like, we never actually had the puck.

“We had moments where we shot the puck down to the other end of the full end.”

I saw someone in my scored. He scored our goal. It was a half-court shot. I just clearly found it on my stick and just flung soft goal. And I can't really talk.

It's just one hand. And I was so tired. I didn't even celebrate it. It just rolled past the dude's leg. He must not have thought it was going to reach him.

Was this like a mighty duck situation? Or you had the clap bomb, or whatever? Well, you weren't allowed to slap shot past him. Yeah, you can waste down, waste down. And then I took a puck off the floor on the one foot.

My right hand is broken. I wore a puck to the hand at one point. I'm playing in defense. Like, I'm kind of standing in front of the wall. Like, I'm trying to make sure no one gets him.

But these teams, they're there lining up for these big shots. Ethan, come in here and show us your bruise. I'm in the line of fire here. I mean, I took a puck to the arm. I'm trying not to catch a stick to the mouth.

You know, like, and then you're up against the boards and you're fighting against. Guys, they took him. No, no, no, no, check him. But like, you are battling for the puck against the boards. And it's, it's really physical.

Ethan took one right under the nipple. No one wants to see that. He took a puck right under the nipple. Chris Cody, he felt one point. His knee was bleeding everywhere.

Yeah. He fell down. He was six. So that was a, I won't point. I felt my legs were just like, I'm done running. You ever had that thing where you're running?

And all of a sudden you just like, you're done. Like, as if you're going down stairs. Your legs are just like, look, we've been doing this for about a half hour now. And I'm done. So you can keep running.

I'm not. So now I just went down. How'd the other gold gets scored? Oh, oh, I inexplicably funny. You ask a great pass.

Luckily, I found the ball with in our own pit in our own pit. And I actually gave was cherry picking a little bit. Gabe was cherry picking. I flung it down the game and gave did a nice, Gabe was our only real quick.

It's actually a beautiful gold game scored. I got a nice pass from the ref who was definitely judging us.

We realized at this point that we're never going to score

unless we cherry pick. And maybe we get lucky fling in the puck to the other end of the floor. Tony, they did the Vivek. The first game.

We lost four to two. Five to five. And he, I think it was four. Whatever. It's my mind that it'll always be four.

With the, like, he said it. A hundred percent of the. It was never had the puck. The idea that we only lost five to two was one of the more incredible feats in the history of hockey.

Oh, Joe Stink was saying when he played Real Madrid, he could like, we never, there was never a point where one of us passed to the other. We never, it was always, only should I have it. Dump it down.

Yeah. It was all happening so fast. So after the first game we felt good. We were ready to quit after the first game. Everyone was dead.

Work looked dead. I've never seen Chris so red in the face. Like, we're every day. No, but like, dude, it was like seven. We were so tired.

I didn't see my wife. We were playing that game in like 9 30. About four PM.

I saw my wife for the first time.

She's like, why are you so red? Oh, wow. We still red. So the next game was at 10 30. All right.

We get out there. We see the team that we're playing this team. Oh, my God. They got gear from the knees to the toes. They got metal shin guards.

Yeah. And I'm like, holy. Are you kidding me?

“And so some of the puck luck we had in the first game?”

What was the score of that one? That's like the second game. Yeah. It balanced out in the second game. Put on the pole, dude.

Put on the pole, dude. Put on the pole, dude. Are you embarrassed when you say the score of the game was it? Yeah. What is the mercy?

It was 10 nothing. It was 10 nothing. But they were toying with us. That team? Oh, yeah.

That team ended up winning it. Oh, did they? The team that beat us 10 nothing won the whole thing. So that made us feel good. What are we seeing here?

What is this video of? This is awesome. No, but like, is it a moment? This is a B roll. We're going to have a package.

There were way too many F bombs this morning. There are packages that we put together. So they're still tightening it up. We will have a package to show the audience probably tomorrow. No, it'll be.

It'll be at the end of this hour. We're going to allow the audience to see how terrible you guys are. Look at us out here. I'm so tired. This is the first game, by the way.

This is the one we competed.

“These are the teams who, who, what were they representing?”

You guys represented Dan Lepers. Anyone can sign up. They were like real ice hockey teams. They'd play like for you. Yeah, you know.

Could you could tell these people. They know who you guys were. We weren't Dan Lepers. So sure. And bear us.

Now we had some people over here watching. Knowing who we were. A few people being like, are you guys? Because like, we had cameras. So they're like, you guys with a show or something?

Yeah. I'm mic'd up during the game, you know. And that might be worse than them knowing. It was fun bonding. I feel like everyone out there.

We had a good time. I did have a good time. Dan, am I right on that? It's worse that they didn't know who they were. They're like, who are these decks?

Some people did, jerk. I would say no.

“I'm going to answer this question in its entirety.”

I would want people to know who you guys were. Until you started playing that way. At which point I would be celebrating that no one knew who you were. Representing us with great sornas and asking out of the game.

And basically, you led the tournament in people who are on the sidelines saying,

I don't want to go back in. That is not. Roy was out there taking guys out. Yeah. I got a glass in the back of my calves twice in that game.

Here's the thing. Okay. So we lost the second game. Mercy ruled ten nothing. All right.

Every team though is guaranteed. Every team is scheduled for three games. Yeah. Some people had to leave. To go work.

Some people are goalie. We're wanting to go to the hospital. Well, I'm not kidding. I think ESPN is trying to kill Zaz. I heard him every time I was in my car this weekend.

It was Friday night. It was Saturday afternoon. Every time every time. Every time every time.

Every time every time I was in my car.

It was Zaz. And I'm like, is this tape? Is this 24 hours. You just on the, he has been radio. He has been replaced by Zaz radio.

It just Zaz on all the time. Put it on the pole.

“Should ESPN radio changes name to Zaz radio at Lebetard.”

Show. I don't have to put that. I should think that went over. Why is association with us? I saw we got aggregated.

Transition. I didn't see. We got aggregated. So I don't know what my inner monologue is talking about. I did your favorite.

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It seems to be behavior that's inappropriate that some might consider.

It had to have been multiple times. Multiple times. That some might consider to be of a sexual orientation issue, right? Given that, ten years ago, 15 years ago, maybe they full metal jack in them, right? Like in the middle of an locker, in the showers, right?

Ten years ago, maybe the team, the coach suspends a guy, whatever. Now, I can see a player being like, I got a problem with this. But if I react the way I've traditionally, we've reacted, then you may be here. Now, I'm the bad guy. It's a hate crime.

I'm homophobic. I'm all these things. So the recourse now is not, we police ourself is. The recourse is, especially if I have advisors like an agent, like someone who is an adult, who isn't in a locker room, you're going to say, do it by the book.

The complaint that you go to HR and I like, I'd like to, you know, complain about this.

“And that's how you do it in order to create the paper trail, not because that's how I handle things.”

But because I am protecting myself from any allegations that might come my way, if I express my displeasure in any other fashion. And telling wise like, if there was other teams that wanted him, they would have gotten him, right? That's terrible things swept under the rug and people have still played for years and years.

Guys, in July of 2025, this person signed a $110 million contract with $85 million guarantee,

because there were several suitors for his services. A year later, a year later, he can't play. Nobody wants him, a year later after getting 80 plus million guarantee. No, man, come on. Like, what are you guys talking about?

Good decision by Greer. Let him go. So what if he saw, what if he gets picked up this offseason, whatever the year he didn't play, and then he gets picked up, then what are we supposed to do with that? I don't, number one, I don't think he's going to.

But number two, does it not make sense for him or is he? We'll get to come out with some type of statements. Like, why can't they push back against this narrative that is seemingly keeping him out of the sport? So that's the other part of this. That's the, and this is what was my man that was a coach here before Brian Flores.

Brian Flores, right? Like it's like, oh, you, you might have a right. You can whistle blow that will 100% guarantee.

You'll never have a job again.

Because not because of what he did or didn't do, but because teams typically look at if you are, if you break the sanctity of the thing, basically, by pointing fingers or whatever, then it's like, how can I have a trust you?

“It could have been anything. I remember a routine cognito,”

who's the guy that he was born and then Martin. Don't even Martin, right? Don't even Martin then have what happened here, but it's like he never ended up anywhere again. Because I'm not going to bring a guy in here who's going to,

the thing about the thing about this though, that is multiple layers of this are confounding to me. But nobody seems to know reporting it, but all the teams seem to know. I think some of the reporters know they don't want to say it.

They don't want to say it. They're beaten around and like, oh, it's going to come out one day. And it's like I just said you're joining Ron on said, what he did is going to be tough to come back for. That sounds like you're no--

I bet my life that this is not a secret in NFL circles. And what we're seeing play out is because people are working with way more knowledge than we are here just talking about. Correct, but I'm not used to information being protected by reporters when there's a mystery.

It's one thing to have your information insiders be bought and paid for. But when something's a mystery like this, I'm not used to a communal gathering of reporters deciding together that they're not going to report something that has news value.

“Just no blind spot, well, that's what we paid for.”

I think then the thing you've got to keep in mind is, again, given the sensitivity of the topic, there's liabilities of all the even for people to reporting on the story. You can't just flip it, we put it out there

because I'm assuming when we say everyone knows in that circle, they know, but they don't have the corroborating or the two independent sources for me to be able to go public with that. So I'm like, Mike, I don't doubt that chef, and of rapping for all these people probably know.

Don't live apart. We're going to win. We're going to win. We're going to win. They're annoying.

All the reference. This is the Don't live apart. We're going to win. They're annoying. Let's segue here to something that happened

on morning television here involving the pussycat dolls.

Yes, there. I don't know if you're familiar. They're back, Jack. Well, sort of. Some of them are back, Jack.

“How many members were there of the original pussycat dolls?”

17. Were there twice as many members of the original pussycat dolls as the ones being interviewed on the today's show? Yeah. There were there were far more.

There were really not that many of that saying. It was a collective. A lot of dancers back there, you know. And really Nicole was a standout so hard. Name one that's not Nicole Shorsinger.

I can't. I can't. But the ones doing this tour, this reunion tour. There's three of them. Wait.

Nicole Shorsinger is not one of them. Yes, she is. Yes, she is. But like, I think the most obvious question would be if you are indeed someone that would be inclined to be super pumped up

about the pussycat dolls reunion. Would be all right. Where's the other girls? You'd be prepared for that question. What's the name that I can't name?

Yeah. But I'm not a part-hitting question. I'm not a pussycat dolls fan. But if I were, I would know more names. All right.

And I would know, like, the number of people missing.

“And I'd be prepared, you know, for some sort of answer on this.”

Can I just ask to really quick? I don't care if I sound stupid, whatever. Can I? I don't really know who they are. What?

Like, what is their deal? They're, they're, they're a music group. Yes. They were, look, so, like, the pussycat dolls were, like, this thing that gained in popularity, that existed before they became a pop sensation.

The pop group basically took existing branding.

Popularized it and had some songs. What? What? Don't you wish to go for it? Yeah.

Yeah. But that's pussycat doll. Yeah. But the pussycat dolls existed before, like, Nicole assaulting or became, before they were a music group.

You would go to Vegas. And the, the pussycat dolls would be there. Wait, they're just like, oh, wow. And I don't get learning stuff. Wait, they were just kind of pussycat.

I didn't know my buttons, baby. I didn't know my buttons, baby. I didn't know my buttons, baby. I didn't know my buttons, baby. Why not?

Are they controversial? It was operative. No. It was not so now apparently. It was something that was already established.

And they just took, like, these studio voices. And they're like, hey, we have a branding thing for you. Just slap some pussycat dolls brand.

You're saying, like, basically, a double walk.

He's all of a sudden had a music group. That's what I'm saying. Wow. I didn't know that. The dance ensemble in Vegas founded in 1995 is what it says.

What the suggestion of Jimmy I veen because of course, Jimmy I veen. They decided to take the group main stream. And their choreographer worked with several other people to get some voices.

“And then all of a sudden, boom, 2004, shall we dance?”

The film. Not to be confused with Josie and the pussycats totally different. I think that's one thing, you know, I think it's cool. I think it's cool, right? No, I think it's cool.

I think it's cool. There are there are cartoon. Okay, they'd be good, controversial. All right, anyway, let's get to this. Hold on a minute.

How do you spell Mula Geta? M-U-L-U-G-H-E-T-A. Well, I'll just say M-O-L-A-E-T-T-T-L. I'm a good one. Let's listen to the sound for a question.

The pussycat dolls should have been prepared for. Um, after they found out that you guys were coming back as a trio. Not as the original group. How did you arrive at that decision? Well, I mean,

listen, we are just, we are like, we are so as women today. I mean, it has been an overchanging lineup. And, you know, this is what it looks like now in 2026.

You never know what comes next.

And I think ultimately we've got a protector piece. And when something like the pussycat dolls has so much history, we have ruptured in the past. Okay, so Nicole, we got to get to you, you can't be the lead.

It was really just Nicole. The other woman did fine. No, no, she choked and her friend tried to bail her out because she froze because they don't want to tell you the truth about why it is to the other women aren't involved.

Like, they don't want to come out and say why it's only the three of them because there's probably some conflict there I would imagine. So now we've got two mysteries. Christian Wilkins and the pussycat dolls. This is the bigger one.

It happened to know like, they're right about it being an ever-changing lineup because there was one girl that I knew. I went to elementary school with it. She was a pussycat doll for like three minutes. Like the, the only ones that mattered were like essentially three of them.

Well informed. Was it those three? It was like Manudo. How do you happen to know this? Why, why do you give me the whole image?

Oh my god, he knows. He happens to know. Come everyone. It's a no. Come and listen.

There was like a no. He happens to know. Well informed. It was a heat dancer that I went to school with. She was a pussycat doll for a hot dog.

So why? Zaz, you were thinking to pussy riot. Yes, they're counting on you. There you go. Pussy riot?

What? That's, that's, so your brain sees the on one word. Yeah. That's the riot. Why got me?

It's kind of going out over to the meal I'm saying. Jesus Christ. From among the things this weekend and I just love Thursday or Friday.

It's crazy how they give you this adrenaline rush, intravenously of just monster action all over the place that Saturday and Sunday go to slow compared to Thursday and Friday. It slows down.

“I want that to be basketball all the time because you've just got action all over the place.”

And if you're playing that many games inevitably mathematically. Some are going to be decided at the buzzer with insanity.

Like the way that Kentucky won its first round game absurdly to save it season with a half-core shot.

That was my favorite moment of the tournament. But the play that Iowa put together with 8.9 seconds left to take out Florida. Like Florida to get that look when they're down to get a wide open three from the corner. I thought they just left the guy. Yeah, he was open on a defense.

They had a trap, you know, but the floor trap. I know, but they also had to know that that's the play that was coming. They're going to throw into their point garden and do the, you know, who was it? It was the Drew kid that did that when one was true.

Yeah, Bryce Drew did that. Yeah, but that was like four seconds left. It wasn't it was a great play. That was a great play that they up to sideline. And he was contested when he made that shot.

Like I've been wanting to ask you about that play. I mean, because, well, everybody know you're saying it's a great play that Iowa's grew up there. I don't know.

I'm saying, Valpa was a great play.

No, no, I'm saying, Dan is saying it's a great play that Iowa's grew up there. Todd Golden can't be pressing up to in that spot. Because they pressed it allowed to be in the transition of course they're not going to give up. But lay up see a spray it to the corner. If you just play it heads up like that's not happening right now.

But I'm assuming that that's the play call because you know that they're going to press.

“Oh, okay, but so what I'm saying is why were they pressing?”

They were ahead. Yeah, why? I don't know. That's a good question. That's a champion coach.

Yeah. I take it blue it. This is again, I go back to college basketball. It's like, you know, this is the stuff that you guys like in the variability. And like, all right, big bets and stuff can happen.

This stuff as a basketball guy drives me crazy. Like, why are you doing this? You remember this happened in the the women's final four. Remember what? Yeah.

Yeah. We're like, yo, Caitlin Clark is shooting every single song. I'm just left family with on an island game. What am I like? What are you doing?

Like, but from a person who watches Pro basketball. Like, that's the easiest adjustment ever. But college is a lot of yelling and like, come on. And I got to run out of the troops. And a lot of times like, they're not really that good coaches dude.

It's the same reason why people say, oh, all players are better coming out when they Spain spent like three years in college versus one in Dunn. And I said, well, depends on which college. Some coaches absolutely. So Jay Wright.

Yeah. If you came out of Bill and over three, four years, you're going to be a good player. Who knows how to play basketball. Some of these other places just running up and down, man. You're not learning anything.

You just wasted four years doing whatever. And so I look at that play. I think Todd Golden blew it in that spot. Absolutely.

“To beat a number one, typically, you have to play better.”

I went to not play, especially well. Their best player was like, oh, for nine. I think they were double figures. They were a lot of the time. But they were missing free throws.

And then Florida. Yes, I understand. Florida clawed back into that game. And then took control of it. The way that they ended up losing.

And we're up five when you eight minutes left. When you when you when you consider the game flow. It really made the zero sense of strange game top. The bottom. But I would typically as to play better to pull off.

But Mike, no, man. I don't like the analysis of I would didn't play well when they got down four late and should have caved against the defending champions who were chasing them all game. They should have caved. And then they end up winning the game because they don't cave.

Like everyone's always talking about.

I mean, champion chip learning. You've been there before. The team that chokes at the end is the champion. The team that chokes at the end is the team that won all the games last year. I apologize that you don't like the analysis.

No, but I'm saying that I want missing shots isn't the same as I was playing poorly. Like I want I want being in that game. I want leading almost the entirety of that game. Coughing it up at the end and not folding when they were down four. When it would have been the easiest thing for a champion to put a foot on your neck.

And I will returning and then doing that on the last play where I don't know if you guys saw. But the point guard was exhorting the guy who was in the corner to take it to the rim. No, he was telling him he was telling him go to the rim. I gave you the ball. Get the go get the time.

I saw him go like this. I saw him go shoot shoot. What was he saying? Driver shoot.

I understand that that's reflex and stuff. But that is where you can choke like one of the pussy cat dolls. That's it. That's it. That's it.

What the fuck should it be? Get save it to be. Stophers. Let me hear Zaz say it. Let me hear Zaz say it the way that he like.

Pussy Ryan. Pussy Ryan.

“I remember Ray Allen telling the story about the three he hit.”

He said, we practice that every single practice the entire year. And not only the practice it, but like what they would do. He said, we would all be laying on our backs. And they put the ball up to further emphasize the scramble. If I got to get up, I got to get to the right spot.

And so I watched this play a million times.

I guarantee they practiced this a million times. Right? So they looked like it. There was no part of this where it's like, well, this is happening. They knew exactly what was going happen. The point garden knew who was going to be open.

He hit ahead, had the defense been closer. There was a guy on the far side who was wide open because they're playing halfway through. Zaz is absolutely correct. You're up to the shot clocks off. Why are we pressing?

There's no need to full core press.

“If you want to start the press, start at a half court, trap the guy in the corner.”

Yeah, it gets to him. But you're letting him go with a full head of steam. He had two defenders behind you. And all of a sudden all you need to do is make one move and spray it all. Like Zaz said, it was the easiest play ever.

Zaz is a guy who went to school in Gainesville. I got to imagine now. I want you to see a slaughter. Thank you, go ahead. Byron Smith is the prairie view coach.

They were down 18 at the half in the first game of the tournament against Florida.

And he made way through the first half. He just started talking to God. Coach, Florida on an 18-0 run here.

“What more do you need from your guys to slow this down and get into their game?”

There would be some help from the Lord. They're very good. We just got to keep defending, trying to switch our defensive, trying to throw them off. But they've been very efficient.

You do have to ask from help from the Lord when the question has in the first half.

The 18-0 run.