Hour 2: And The Chicken Tastes Like Wood

I remember many years ago I obviously didn't know who these people would become, but almost

one of the first times I'd ever seen stand-up.

I was in Los Angeles and the performers were Louie Anderson and Jim Carrey. And it was before, obviously, they were what they would end up becoming. Jim Carrey to me is one of the most talented people in the history of Hollywood. And there's a great story involving how it is that Dan Marino came to be on Ice Ventura Pet Detective, which is obviously the role that made Jim Carrey a movie star.

He was on in-living color before that, right? And he goes on, for those of you do not remember, in-living color at one point stole the half-time audience from the Super Bowl and it's when the NFL stopped doing small things as their half-time show because in-living color, legitimately ended up revolutionizing what fox would become by existing as a television show.

I did that in-living color half-time show to immediately get Michael Jackson. That's how you do it.

That show was musty every week in-living color, incredible show, so funny.

Well, I know Jim Carrey's been in the mood in the news lately. He's not a clone.

“I think he just is an aging actor in Hollywood.”

I don't know if you're seeing that whole thing. People were like, "It looks exactly like Jim Carrey." Now, the eyes didn't look like him. But that'd be real. The eyes didn't look like him. I was talking to a friend yesterday and he reminded me of a story that is out there on the internet

at the first time Dhammerino met Jim Carrey. Are you guys aware of this story? How Dhammerino got talked into appearing an ascent or a pet detective? Morgan Creek produced it. It was a small independent movie, basically. Because of all the reasons that we just listed, Jim Carrey not a proven leading man. And Dhammerino, at the time, height of his popularity,

he wasn't so sure this was something that he wanted to do. So, he's like, "I'm going to be in LA for a couple days sure I'll meet with Jim." Because a producer's like, "You got to meet this guy." Dhammerino gets frustrated because he's at this restaurant waiting for Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey is like 20 minutes late and he's about to leave.

And Jim Carrey shows up to the meeting as Ascent Torah. Like, doing roles like he's just entertaining Dhammerino in character as Ascent Torah. Dhammerino is so impressed that he decides I'm going to take a little risk here. And I'm going to join this little independent movie.

“But here's the thing. Dhammerino had options.”

See, they're got percentage points on what ended up being a huge successful box office, smash hit movie that launched Jim Carrey to being the biggest movie star or he could get a salary. And he's like, "I like Jim. I believe in this project, pay me a front." "No!" "Do we know how much it was?"

"I'm sure he won't, in retrospect, wishes he had the points." Ascent Torah was not supposed to succeed in any way. There were a number of people who thought Jim Carrey was making a terrible decision by choosing to lift that as a project. And Courtney Cox was nobody at the time.

There was a couple moments in cinematic history in the build-up to a movie being produced that I wish I was a fly on the wall for. That's one of them. The other ones, the famous cabin that John Travoltaian Nicolas Cage both rented out together to spend a weekend picking up each other's maineurysms has a prepared for face-off.

I want to take his face off. Yeah.

“I think it's mannerisms. This makes me the asshole because everyone knew what you were trying to say.”

And I'm correcting. But you made it man-yourself, which made it sound a little closer to manure than manner. So I just, yeah, I'm the jerk for it. Are they not both right? I don't think it's man-yourself.

Is it a tomato? No, I've never heard.

Man-yourself is never heard.

Man-yourself is never heard. I'm sorry. I apologize. I got that wrong. You see how refreshing that is, Tony?

I'm really glad we got bogged down in it though, Dan. Just so admit that you're wrong about something. But the wizards? Speaking of changing course, it's funnier if we never mention it. The Atlanta Hawks and the NBA have had to cancel Magic City night.

They tried to disguise it as a night about chicken wings. That lemon pepper, chicken wings, and iconic establishment culture in Atlanta. But instead, they just run away from the whole thing. I don't suppose that I can blame them and in the statement that Adam Silver made about it. He did go out of his way to mention sponsors.

He said fans as well, but I'm guessing they got enough blowback from people who pay money

These promotions aren't that big a deal.

And this has gotten too much attention. And because I'm guessing other sponsors are not happy with the idea of a strip club being tied to the NBA. It's easier to move away from it than it is to continue down this path. And Luke Cornet should feel pretty good about using his voice to get his beliefs to change something. Oh, but Dan, the next time the spurs play at the Hawks, they're going to boo him out the building.

I mean, like public enemy, number one Luke Cornet. But the benefit for him is that when fans cheer for him, it sounds the same way because they just go, "LOOOOOO!" So he's just going to be encouraged by it. The thing that Luke Cornet should feel good about is he had an opinion. He voiced it.

It wasn't, I would say, a popular opinion. But he made the, he was the change that he saw it. Luke Cornet ended up getting that night cancel. That's what happened there. But it's not any kind of leadership from Adam Silver in the NBA.

Like you would have figured when this came across your desk that the league, that one of your teams was doing this, you would have thought to stop for a moment to be like, probably not a good idea. And you got the predicted results, which was people didn't like it. And like you said, probably sponsors didn't like it. And that Adam Silver was like, "Oh, this is what we're going to do."

And they end up canceling it.

“And now it ends up being like this huge thing because, "Oh, what are you doing?”

We love it. It's part of our culture." And it's again, it's just Adam Silver not showing any kind of leadership. It's a reaction to the reaction. It's not action. It's not proactive, but Luke Cornet got this change. That's what happened.

He gave his opinion on this. It was an opinion that money could get behind. I believe that America is super repressed in a lot of places. I believe that Corn is wildly popular, at least in part, because these repressions keep these things in hiding.

Obviously, the adult entertainment industry is something that is always flourishing.

And it flourishes more and better in very few places than it does at Magic City, which I will say again, is more of an Atlanta iconic institution than the Atlanta Hawks. They tried to make the night about chicken wings, though. What do you make in Facebook? What do you do in there? Come on, the Human Highlight Realdomity Wilkinsville is like a word.

I mean, that's four years ago. It's 40 years ago. The Human Highlight Film was back when Highlight Film was a thing. I mean, what are we doing? It's a Kyle Cornet.

Kyle Cornet. Kyle Cornet. Exactly right. I so Joe. Table Cephalosia.

John Cornet. Jeff Tieg. I think Tony just made him Kyle Cornet. I didn't say anything. I said John Cornet.

I thought John. Kyle Cornet. Kyle Cornet. Use to make it. Kyle Cornet.

I'll give up because that wasn't me. Well, that'd be a shitty player. What? It'd be down in the post. It would be giant.

And then he would also have range from three. I wanted to talk about a little bit what's going on in UFC. I've told you that that sport is about as vulnerable to fixing and corruption. As anything in sports, college basketball included, because the pay is so bad.

“And all you have to do is get one fighter.”

And something happened during the UFC card that Tony was broadcasting on Saturday that looked awfully suspicious. But before we get to that, I just wanted to ask you guys if you had any opinions about this White House UFC fight. Dana White is putting on the lawn of the White House UFC freedom 250.

What kind of crowd does like can you buy tickets? There will be a hundred thousand person stadium built. A lot of it is for military families and veterans and stuff like that. It's not going to be a huge event. They're not going to make a ton of money.

They're going to lose a lot of money on it from the production standpoint. And what they're going to put on the lawn. So there's not like a huge tickets. We can't buy tickets. The seeding will be somewhere between 3,000 and 100,000 seats, depending on who you're listening to.

John Jones doesn't appear to be partaking. Connor McGregor doesn't appear to be partaking. The card isn't as good as the Miami card. It's an okay card. Some people, you think it's as good as Miami?

I saw how Wani rated it very high of a call.

“Yeah, I think anytime you have Italy to pour in a card, it's going to go over.”

I think there's a lot of good stuff.

The first time three division champion in the UFC started at middleweight at 185,

And now going up to heavyweight, trying to fight Cyril Gantuin. You can't have this. It's not going to be a bad card. You can't do this kind of event. What they're trying to do.

“Those of you who do not like politics with your sports.”

I suspect aren't objecting to this being on the White House lawn, even though it's a bit of a desecration of everything that is at the city. At the center of Washington. But John Jones specifically is saying, hey, cut me. If you're not going to pay me, if you're lowballing me, just let me go.

Because all of a sudden, it would be John Jones's 38. John Jones is not fought in two years since he beats Steepay in the heavyweight division. John Jones is the best fighter in the history of the sport. In my opinion, you can quibble with it. If you think it's Anderson Silver or someone else you can quibble.

But I love John Jones as a fighter. The fact that he is dominating that sport while appearing to have a drug problem is makes his domination all the more- Don't cut him out. He's at other problems too. Impressive.

But him being lowballed on this fight and not being on this card. That's, I mean, that it would have been the easiest thing in the world to put him on this car. You would think, Dan, and again, I'm not going to stand up here for UFC brass and make excuses.

“But John is also not the easiest to deal with when it comes to getting a contract,”

agreeing to a fight in a certain way, a certain time, and with money. So they've been trying to set up after he won the heavyweight title and then basically retired. They wanted to set up Tom Aspen, all versus John Jones.

I would have been the biggest fight on the planet, it would have been incredible.

John really tested for the first time within a lead heavyweight. That didn't happen. Why? The contract. No, it's not enough money. It was the money, but I don't want to do it anymore. So there's been this back and forth with John Jones wanted to fight at this age.

He didn't want to fight Tom Aspen prior to the eye post, because now he's had multiple surgeries. And we don't know if Tom Aspen was ever going to be Tom Aspen again. That's a side point. But when you don't even know if he's going to fight again. Correct. Correct. Correct.

We don't know if he's going to fight again. We hope he will, but he may be completely done. He signed with a new management team, like there's a lot of stuff there. So with the White House card, they've already had this two years back and forth with John negotiating, just trying to get on a regular UFC card.

Now, John wants to be on the White House card. Cool. Now, what are we going to do?

We tried to give you $40 million to fight Tom Aspen all.

We're not going to give you that now, right? You want to be on this card. We have any idea what the number is. We do not, but he got lowballed. He said, and of course, it's a he said he said situation.

But when you look at it, it's like, you don't have the leverage to your John. You want to fight on a card that we're not going to put together for you because you may flake out the last second. Now, the conversation that would have made this White House card incredible was Islam who's the 170-champed fighting Ilia Tuporia.

That would have been the biggest fight you could make. So why did they do that? Because Islam is apparently hurt his hand. It doesn't want to fight Ilia Tuporia 170. That's a whole other thing.

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“What did you guys make in a look of the fixing allegations from this weekend?”

It was the same fighter who previously had been pulled off a card for suspicious gambling activities. Michael Johnson is the guy in question. He had his fight pulled earlier this year from a bout with Anthony Hernandez.

So he fought Drew Doper this weekend. Should we be careful here on Johnson? 100%. Lies the legend. All this is a legend.

It came from a gambling account.

“However, the way that it played out seems to give the initial tweets some credits.”

Go ahead, Tom. That was on my way over to to definitely mingle on Saturday getting ready for the fights. And I see this tweet pop up on my timeline. Michael Johnson has been paid to lose by round two TKO today. The gang called gangsters disciples coming out of St. Louis, Missouri or holding his nephew hostage.

So I see that tweet and I'm like, huh. Okay. Could be BS. Could be something like I don't know. I don't know who this guy is.

I don't know this account. I've later been informed there was a big whale gambler who who's accounted for. And for context, Johnson was on a fight that month's prior was pulled. Because of suspicious line activity. Right.

So as the night is progressing, there's a lot of people. Eriohawani Connor Berg's guys that are plugged into the sport are like, hey, there's a lot of line shifting on the Michael Johnson Drew Doper fight. Something is happening. Draft King's pulled it a bunch of other books pulled it.

And it was like, we're not going to pull the fight. But something is happening here. And then wouldn't you know it as they said.

In the second round, TKO, like, complete.

Again, it's easy to say he had his hand down. But he got hit with a counter punch that knocked his lights out. And he was over. And then this came out afterwards. And I'll read it for you for bait.

And wife Peter White said I was lying. And all I know is Malcolm is back home alive and well. And he can focus on becoming a D1 basketball player. I don't know if this is true. I don't know if this is a great fantastical story that was able to have

the thread point of the actual knockout being in the second round. Like it was called.

“I think Paul and he said do some investigating on it.”

Because I think there's an interesting story there. If that is true. The NCA is going to be using tech to monitor tournament officials for betting. Because all of this stuff has to be looked at more carefully. Because you have the integrity of sports at risk.

And more importantly, the sports you have money at risk with these things. And again, allegedly, if you have your nephew being taken by a gang in the city that you're living in, you'd figured you'd throw the fight, right? Like allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. But you would kind of think twice and be like, all right, let me find an out here.

Josh Tilders would like a word. I think that we find ourselves in some territory here that is really difficult to navigate. But UFC has a specific problem on its hands because of all the major sports that we have. It's the one that climbed right out of the gutter and it's the one that has the... Oh yeah, we look that line.

The best or the most terrible history that you could possibly have with paying people. Like you have throughout sports, you have a bunch of stuff that's collectively bargained. So if players are underpaid, they have themselves to blame because they're negotiating something. But in UFC, you perpetually have the fighters complaining about how much they're paid. And you have a lot of professionals who have had a lot of professional fights having second jobs,

or you have the stories of some of them living out of their cars because they don't get enough money. This is super susceptible to all of this stuff. It's human cock for you. Demari Carroll would like a word.

“Were you guys excited that the Panthers were able to or decided to keep a broth?”

Yes. Because he's been bad this year and he's a two-time defending champion gold tender.

And he say what you will about whoever you think is the Panthers best or most important player.

But they've won the last two seasons because they have a hot gold tender. Who was bad this season? Were you surprised that they didn't trade him? No. I'm not surprised they didn't trade him.

I think there is a sense of loyalty to this player. And I think that they also believe that this season has a better chance of being a blip on the radar than him completely phone off a cliff as long as they're healthy next year and get Sasha Barkov back. I think they're probably right or the very least I'm willing to see if they're right. But I'm also very emotional when it comes to stuff like this.

I'm bad at trading away players who I love. And I would much rather see Sergey Babrosky never play for another team again. As a Panther fan, I kind of needed to pick me up. The gold medal was nice and all that. But then you come right back and you have devastating losses to your playoff chances.

And it's getting to that point in the calendar where the schedules congested and their big games every night. And you're starting to feel sad that you're going to miss out on the playoffs.

Playoff hockey is incredible.

And what I appreciated was almost a defiant message from Bilzito at the deadline and saying like,

"No, we're only not in this conversation because of the injuries because everyone around the league was pumping their fists when they saw Barkov go down in a heap." It was such like the same thing when you add a player to the room and it's like, "Hey, this means that we're really good. We believe in you. I feel like by not trading away Bob Robbsky, Mike, that was you don't also same we believe in you."

Bobi, I love the message and that, yeah, champs, you're two time champs, you get to puff your chest out a little bit, you got lucky.

You got one over, we're going to be back and you're going to hate when we come back.

Bobi, Josh Smith would like a word.

“And just the way that they talk about him, those guys in that dressing room, I think they would have been really upset.”

But Bob Robbsky was not the goalie next year. Yeah, I think it's also, it's a tough contract to move. I'm not sure how much interest there was. This could also be a convenient defiance a little bit rally around the guy, but it's not like Spencer Knight is in the system.

But they may extend him. Yeah, there is no logical person to kind of take the reins from Sergei Bobrobsky and you want to be able to have that kind of buttoned up before you make a move like that because he is a legend, 72 is going to be hung up in the rafters, no doubt. Sergei Bobco. Marvin Williams would like a word.

“Where are you guys with the idea that his age would suggest that this season is a harbinger of things to come?”

Especially given that the three years that he just had were a surprise to me because I haven't forgotten the way you guys were crushing. Bobrobsky and that contract before the last three years when he was as important a piece as a championship contender has ever had down here in any sport. Because of his value, where are you on his age and the season that he just had? It can be the end because this year's Bobrobsky reminded me of the guy you guys were complaining about for several years before the last three years.

And it was warranted by the way, it's not like we got you. The Panthers themselves didn't believe in Bobrobsky, Alex Lyon got them into the playoffs. Alex Lyon was going number one and then Spencer and I too. They kept trying out other goldies because this was believed to be a bad contract. But Bob is only 37 years old and at that position, you can play well in your 40s.

“I think it is completely reasonable that this is the start of the drop-off and that he's not going to bounce back.”

But based on his history and what he's done for the franchise and based on everybody playing in front of him and how good we know that team in front of him is when they are healthy. I'm willing to find out for sure next year. To Mike's point earlier, about having somebody in a pipeline to possibly replace Sergei Bebrowsky, the Panthers have a protected top 10 pick this year. So if they went to lottery or whatever place they end up in the lottery, they can draft possibly a gold tenor in the place. Jeremy, would you do me the favor please of looking at pro football focus for what it is that I'm about to ask because in that, in the NFL,

when I do some of the analysis with my eyes, I think most people listening to this would just simply concede that Miles Garrett and Mike Parsons are the two best pass rushers that exist in that league.

But if I was doing this with just my eyes and not looking at any of the metrics, I would say Max Crosby would be third for me on most unblockable edge rushing thing that there is in the league.

Edge, I was going to say Chris Jones up the middle is pretty unstoppable also. That's a different skill set and I'm always amazed when anybody can get pressure up the middle like Aaron Donald, but when I'm doing all of this with my eyes, okay, I would make the argument that Miles Garrett is as unblockable as anything that's ever existed in that league. I think of Mike Parsons as second on that list the Raiders are smart in getting rid of him at 28 years old because of how much they were able to get back for him and because they have so many holes to fill and they're not likely to fill them all before he's done playing there.

But they are selling high on Max Crosby, but are you guys with me we've talked before we've made the poll before should Max have three exes in his name because his past rushing is pornographic.

That's a franchise in transition and his numbers don't actually stack up there hutch and sin as viewed as better than him is a real off year for Crosby, but I'm with you I believe in the player.

I mean who scares you on that defense it's Max Crosby and Max Crosby is an incredible player and there's a big time year for Baltimore because that's pushing your chips into the table with an a quarterback that relies heavily on his physical traits it's already shown signs of decline. So I love Max Crosby. I'm glad that he's going to be playing an important games in that division. It should be fun. They're going to be games where you're just glued to the TV and you watched Miles Garrett take his turn and then Max Crosby the next, but I don't know about the franchise direction over there.

“I mean every year like your offensive line stinks they sack you a lot and it's like here we're also going to throw in Max Crosby.”

Let's not forget what was also in that division. JJ just could be TJ what that denial hunters. Trey Hendrickson who hasn't really had an ability to go out and do stuff because of the contract situation and he got hurt.

It's like there's there's a good hodgepodge of guys in that mix that are in that Max Crosby tier.

What is the worst part of the life stugats.

“Speaking of X ratings, I saw the other day and I was not aware of this that Scarface came very, very close to being x-rated.”

They were going to make Scarface x-rated and not until an assortment of people went before the ratings board and said hey this chainsaw scene doesn't actually have the chainsaw touching flesh at any point.

It's the way that they got Scarface to be off of an X rating because it wasn't something that was seen it was imagined more than seen.

Do you believe as I know you're of a certain age but Scarface because it's something from Miami because for many people it begins Al Pacino's a scent even though it started long before then.

“Do you believe that younger audiences still have an appreciation for a movie that is now I'm guessing more than is it more than 40 years old probably right at 40 years maybe a little more.”

Do you think that there are a couple of generations that don't have any appreciation whatsoever for Scarface and it's and it's lost on today's 20 year old because it's too old in a movie. It's actually having this conversation with Dominique Foxworth the other day because I'm like 90s can't be con 90s music can't already be considered oldies can it and he's like yes absolutely and so I'm like so you're telling me that now jazzy is an oldie like hip hop is 50 years old you're telling me that and I know that jazzy and Snoop Dogg are in their 50s and that hip hop is 50.

You're telling me that jazzy music classifies as oldies now he's celebrating two album releases this year the 25th anniversary of one and the 30th anniversary of another yeah I when I was a little kid I was always wondering how does this genre age because it's always at the cutting edge of hipness right are we really going to see 60 plus year old rappers touring what does that look like in the answer is yes and it looks pretty awesome they get live bands behind them. The energy is good and they focus more on performance and it's actually much better than a lot of the contemporary rap concerts.

My older son is way into rap music today's rap music and you know the rap that I was listening to in the 90s to pop Biggie Wu Tang like it is not real. I was a thought you listen to rap that what like this it does not register to him and I feel like movies like Scarface are the same thing when that generation around that age when they see you know the film looks a little bit grainy they're not sitting and watching that movie. On that so you tell me your kid listens to cream and the first couple melody so he doesn't slow too slow for him too slow. I've wondered what it is that Mike is talking about there because you've heard me say a ton of times that comedians and comedy doesn't tend to age well hip hop aging there are not a lot of rappers too chains was able to do it late in his career but generally speaking the the 50 year old rapper does look ridiculous.

Yeah it's like rappers. Yeah yeah you're like a hilking and the chicken tastes like woo yeah don't be I don't get your linnick and I just I'm like is this racist it might be a mean would call me racist if I did this it didn't seem like you had confidence when you delivered that you did it was because I have to move it like the body it goes with the you know that's why I decided that one's on the shelf that's it never happened no vanilla ice that's your reference you go off of that I appreciate it

You're more of an ally to me than a mean it's not so patulia would like a word I should have said yoke is also miserable

I want to give me the one white jazzy is going to end up touring and is going to try and advance the entertainment of it because I don't know that he's got these anniversaries And there's all sorts of internet slew thing on some dates Potentially in Brooklyn that line up with these anniversaries and he just re-released dead presidents and it sounds good Yeah, it's it was yeah was remastered and all that but that's the only evidence that we have and You know the timing may not be super right for jazzy right now

It runs risks right it runs it can look cartoonishly Ridiculous to have somebody in their 50s Preming appraining as cutting edge hip hop. I just I'm I got to think there are some people listening to this right now Who would be saying just reflexively the way that I would jazzy can't be oldies oldies is like Sanatra it's I understand he's in his 50s, but you can't tell me that the music of

jazzy is classified as oldies

“Yes, it is yeah, we sound washed. How can it not be?”

Yeah, I mean you guys are old so your oldies is different than so too part you hear jazzy And it's like you might as well be talking about the but I think all these is croners like I think all these as Yeah, the big band the Beatles well, but I mean Because like right now this generation is further removed from jazzy than I was from the Beatles when I was growing up Which is crazy to say yeah, I'm that freaking old man. Yeah, 40

Yeah, like a ton of bricks. I'm a bad shoulder guy My shoulder got better by the way really. Yeah, what'd you do? Nothing. I slept on the side. I was like cooked again

Like for me born in the USA by Bruce Springstein when I was ten years old is basically what like how to save a life by the

“Frey is to attend your old now. Okay, that's the eight all right, but let's so where what's the line on this though?”

So it early 2000s like where how far do I go back before it becomes oldies like how where where is the Line on both pop culture and give me a date on what it is and it would pop it. It's even more extreme than that Because like Fettywap is considered oldies now. So two pockets oldies now. Oh, yeah, yeah Yeah, I was like a big band. Yeah, like no most of the past. Yeah, it is. I'm sorry. Uh-huh Picture me rolling on my 500 bands as might as well be like

I don't know you just hit a marching band while also though doing in a accordion of some sort But you were playing the symbols like an accordion and you were doing marching band You know, I didn't take band the high school mooky where they lock would like a word answer my question That was the original name for Pearl Jam wasn't it? Yes Did you know that Jeremy that the original name put it on the pole at Lebittard show?

Did you know that the original name for Pearl Jam band name was mooky-play lock? I did not know that I did know the dead left shrimp was a name of a band of horses song So now Pearl Jam is oldies as well Yeah, I mean, they're on they're on one of six FM here in South Florida like that's that's classic rock What is the date? Give me can you guys help me with the date? Is it 2000 like two like two thousand and five?

“Yeah, I think for 20 years. I think once you brought the 20 years you think 30 is oldies. Yeah, so what is what is 20?”

Like I don't think anything in this century in in the 2000s is oldies. I got to go 30 years really Yeah, man early, 2000s hip hop

Those were throwback jams. You guys are basically making Britney Spears oldies. You're making in sync oldies

Yep That's right if they played in sync at a bar mitzvah right now

Oldies. Yes, so give me where's the life? What's the name? I can give you that's right on the line

I heard you guys are well I'm trying I'm just gonna pick a year and say with conviction. No, I'm trying I happened before the marlins when they're last world series It's an oldie. It's not a three. It's not about conviction here It's I want the the spot that would be the tipping point on our argument where it is that you guys Would put a name and you would say that's a bridge too far

I'm not willing to call that oldies is American idiot the album by Green Day oldies

“2004 album. Yeah, that's an oldie. Yeah. That's a classic rock solution. Yeah. Oh, that's why it's I'm trying to figure out the line”

That is what we're doing as an exercise

And I'm trying to think of something that would create an argument between us where it is that all of you Would object to you're saying no. I'm not gonna I think not willing to go century Because you're doing it differently than they're doing it. They're saying at at the 20 year mark 2000 and five. Yeah, but you're old like we don't get to decide what's an oldies my point with the original point in hip hop is like the

The core audience is so much younger that their relationship with older music is totally skewed

“You remember being a kid watching those videos on MTV. They weren't alive and wouldn't be alive for another 15 years”

So it might as well be prehistoric to them. Don'tcha by the pussy cat dolls oldies. No a couple of years up

2005 Put it on the poll. Please jiu-jiu at Levitard show is any song sung before 2005 now an oldie. What do you guys doing with 2005? I guess you doing 2006. I feel like I go three. I feel like I go three is my number

I'm sick with a three, so it's 23 years for you. Yeah, 23 years for you is where for the Marlin for some reason the Marlin Bigger would be a chip is the landmark. Yeah, because Jesus walks. I don't think Jesus walks is right friend That was all for us. Yeah, no, not quite old enough. I'm doing the 97.3 the coast kind of 2000s being the today's so now we're the like the 20s Charlie twenty-two thousand twenty-tens and twenty-twenties. I wonder what he's up to

Gold digger Isn't oldie? No No, no, it might be We're getting right to the point. No, we're getting right to the point where Kanye had the guest feature and that's oldie 2005

We're getting to it. It's so three and I feel pretty good about it put it on the poll jiu-jiu as well jiu-jiu got it. It is not gotty anymore

“Is gold digger by Kanye and Jamie Fox and oldie. That's what I was looking for Tony that face where you're like what's the line?”

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