Tony got to stand next to a major league baseball player yesterday and was st...
how large O'Neill cruise is. Were you guys been hiding this guy? I mean, Dan standing next to him.
“I'm looking at him like this dude could play power forward in the league.”
That's how big he is. He's massive. They have my 248. He's not 248, by the way. It's like 262 65.
Easy, but everybody in the Dominican team looking on like damn Sandy's huge. Holy shit, Albert Pools is huge in a different way. Well, the reason he's been hiding is because he's at Pittsburgh. That's a pirate. Pretty good team this year.
Put it on the pole at Levitard show. That's not true in any way Jeremy. The Pittsburgh. Could make a wildcard on Pittsburgh. Really good pitching.
Pirates are never any good.
Okay, all right. Let's let's come back to this and game 162 and see if they're sniffing around that wildcard race. Put that next to the Washington Wizard's playoff run of next year.
“File that one way, yeah, these predictions that you guys make that no one's going to remember”
because we're going to make the playoffs. They said they were a good team. They're all the right direction. And go through that file and please throw away any of the Orlando magic takes that I had from a few months ago.
Dave Damashek will hold me to it. I'll tell you that. He's been talking to me about the Pittsburgh Pirates since January. I wasn't alone with those magic takes, but I'll take the fall. You weren't alone, but Tony, you just corrected yourself on what you alleged to have said about
the wizards by saying the wizards are a good team. They're not a good team. Why? I said they were heading in a good direction. No, you just said that he's early.
He's not wrong. He's early. Thank you.
You said a second ago that they were a good team.
Just it just came out of your mouth. It wasn't not there. It wasn't a good direction. It was I'm listening to what you say. You're not listening to what it is that you say.
You said. That would be fair. I don't think anybody else was listening to you either from what I can tell. But I don't want to talk about the wizards. I don't think Jeremy, I want to talk about the pirates.
Either is O'Neill Cruz named after Paul O'Neill because his father was a major league. Roya's nodding his head vigorously. Yes. I didn't realize that you were watching pirates baseball this way. But Roya seems to know that this is absolutely so.
I was asking the question. I'm not sure.
“I believe I heard that on MLB the show last year's edition of the video.”
He said it. That's a bit, thank you for the show. You just retained it. It just it just stayed there in your head somewhere and that was interesting. And so Tony comes in and is like, where have they been hiding this guy?
Meanwhile, you know his entire family history. This is the Dunleba Partial with this Tugat Spotcast. For the years as the audience has heard my increasing exasperation with how strong and instant takes have gotten. And I really don't know how you can have a very strong opinion on Malik Willis.
But I am seeing a great deal of very strong opinion on both sides on the dolphins getting Malik Willis. It's hope. Part of it. It's also encouraging that they actually have a plan yesterday 24 hours ago on this
show when I was saying I thought that Malik Willis was where it is that this was headed after they wave to a you had mentioned that people were talking about Arizona as his favorite destination. They have the better skill players to end up in Atlanta now. They have the better skill players.
But the opinions on Malik Willis range from Chase Daniels saying, quote, Malik Willis is worth it all for the dolphin. There's on his tip. The film is so much better than you think timing, timing, touch, and anticipation. Nina Kim says he's got a cannon, incredible dual threat quarterback, incredible is very
strong. But here's Dominic Foxworth on the other side of this. This isn't the best option out there, but of the available options it seems like he's going to have a legitimate chance to prove himself.
The problem is this team feels to be obviously in a rebuild and they're hammered by the
big dead money on the two of contract and his, he's going to be limited. This team is going to be limited. The expectations are going to be a little low for this team and the support that he enjoyed in Green Bay when he had those few successful games with a past couple of years, like that's not going to be theirs.
We're not sure that Bobby Sloak is a good offensive coordinator. We haven't seen Waddle carry this offense alone. HN, we know it's an explosive big play running back. The off the line has issues, the defense has issues and like we started with offensive coordinator.
The first time he coached offensive coordinator is unproven. I, the more I examine this situation, it might be the best that you're going to get.
If you only have a small sample size like Malik Willis, says what is your opi...
I think they went from super boring and definitely going to be terrible next year to very interesting. The dolphin fan now every single week has something to watch, hoping, hoping that this guy is going to be their franchise quarterback and that they found a gem at a very good price.
The dolphin fan has never, like Tana Hill was able to run a little bit, but all like this.
The dolphin fan has never witnessed a dual threat quarterback. They've never had the guy who can run and make the fun explosive plays. Yeah, it's new punty for a little bit. Okay. What are you doing there?
The other. Feedler was sneaky. Pat White would like a word. The other side of it for me is man, like I, I thought this front off, this was going to be a little bit patient with this rebuild.
This is not patient at all. Oh, no, I don't, I don't think this is impatient because they're in handcuffs, right? You can say it's a good contract because it's essentially two years, $45 million. You can get out from under it if it's a mistake.
But you're paying for the quarterback position next year about $90 million because you've
“got so much dead cap money into a, and because of that dead cap money, you have to align”
it so that if this is a mistake, two years from now, you're okay. It's cool. So you have to get someone cheap because you're paying a lot. You're not. You're paying in quarterback more than the chiefs are paying my homes by a good amount
because you've got two quarterbacks that you're paying a lot next year. And in a salary cap sport, while he represents only like seven, Malik Willis represents only like seven percent of your salary cap, which is where you'd love to have a great quarterback at value, the amount you're paying to a makes it so that this front office isn't handcuffs. And this is the best of the available options.
I would have preferred Kyler Murray, but a guy coming into a system with people that he knows is something that does create that hope you're talking about a couple of things that I want to point out though.
He couldn't beat out Will Levus in his first two years at Tennessee.
He only had 92 dropbacks in Tennessee and was terrible in Tennessee. Couldn't beat out Levus. Now people are excited about Green Bay, but that's a conservative offense, okay. That's a run heavy offense and they had a good offensive line in Green Bay. So he was very good down the field in terms of explosive plays.
People have run the analytics and say, if you take the sample from him in Green Bay and put it out over the entirety of a season, it's the best quarterback in the league because of how he throws the ball down field throws the ball down field accurately. But I just don't know how you can have very strong opinions for a first time starter in year five who's taken all of 302 snaps in five years.
Loads of bad tape at Tennessee and I was a huge Malik Willis guy when he was at Liberty. Touchdown connection with CJ Daniels like he was awesome at Liberty and I thought he was going to be one of the best pro prospects and he went in to the league. Not opportunities with the bad Tennessee team admittedly and he straight up could not throw the ball.
They did not trust him to throw the ball. Forget downfield. They didn't trust him to throw the ball four yards and he was available for Green Bay on
“the cheap for a reason and it took them a while and I think they traded a seventh for him.”
It took them a minute in Green Bay and he started because Jordan love has been in and out a little bit. But last year was really encouraging and a testament to that being a development position, him learning the NFL a little bit and those numbers downfield are really impressive. But in terms of hope and the dolphin fan perspective, you're really excited that they had
a plan. They executed it quickly. You thought that this year would be a wasted year. No, you actually got one of the top two quarterbacks available. You have hope in the front office because they executed a plan and made Miami somehow desirable
for a top two quarterback and you have a big variable in Malik Willis that could go either way. The ceiling's really high with him. Are the dolphins falling into a trap that Miami heat does to other teams or they're like we're going to develop this guy who's going to be really good for us. But then when you get to your team over there and you pay him a ton of money, he's not going
to be that good. I'll be worried that Green Bay's development system and obviously they don't do free agents. They don't do trades like they draft and they develop.
“That's their MO and it's like, is that happening with Malik Willis?”
We're going to get here. He has none of the skill players are running and like, oh, who is this guy? I really like the point you made about Dan about the timeline with essentially it's two year contract, it matches up with the two years that the dolphins are really limiting the position that this management team is in as janitorial workers trying to clean up this
particular thing. But it lines up with the two years that they're at a major cap deficit because of two and then you can kind of either then you have multiple options. Like right now the only option would have been, hey, hopefully next year we get a good traffic.
Now you have two options either. You like Malik Willis or you'll decide to eventually go into the draft. But there's not a lot of precedent for a quarterback who for four years has been
A backup extremely small.
It's all he got six games recent recent recent recent recent precedent because this used
“to be how quarterbacks looked all the time at the beginning and be the most normal thing in”
the world for a quarterback to have to wait five years. That's a lot to learn the position. But the way that he looked in Tennessee is how my experience with young quarterback before
the last seven years has always been and I also think something that's interesting here
is and another bad position that this management team inherits the single greatest advantage that you can have in that sport since Russell Wilson was winning the championship in Seattle is you get a good quarterback cheap so that you could build the rest of your team. This is the opposite of that not because of Malik Willis but because of their quarterback situation they've got a ton of dead money tied in not being able to know whether they
still have a quarterback or not. That's usually something that will shackle the entirety of your franchise. You kind of need him to be great and there's nothing to suggest that he's got the help needed on offense to be great. I want to read you some of these numbers because I want to get your opinions on whether
or not you guys pay attention to some of the advanced metrics. This is from both ESPN and next gen stats ESPN is saying his numbers, Malik Willis's numbers outrageous in Green Bay is what they're calling them. An 86.3 QBR, 9.2 yards per dropback, a plus 7% completion percentage over what is expected.
Those stats would rank all of them first over the past two seasons among QBR qualifiers
if he did it over a larger sample and he generated 0.38 EPA per dropback across 24 and 25 with the packers. That's the most in the NFL. He throws the ball down field but I don't think the dolphins could get downfield without Tyreekill.
Do you think the dolphins can get downfield without Tyreekill has waddled proven to you that he's a deep threat without Tyreekill? He is, yeah, and he has, he did play on this team, some without Tyreekill alongside him. That's his game. I mean, the thing with Waddled is, can his frame hold up?
Swiders, he of course bad right now. I mean, I haven't watched a dolphin game where I haven't seen Jaylam Waddled limping to the sidelines and being worked on. I don't know if his body's built for this. One more stat from Doug Clawson, what Malik Willis did in his only start last season.
First quarterback all time with an 85% completion percentage, 13 plus yards per attempt and 60 plus rushing yards in a game. First quarterback since Michael Vic in 2002 with a hundred past attempts, past touchdown, rushing touchdown and zero in completions in a first half.
“That's what people are getting excited about.”
They're getting excited about. Do Michael Vic, one one start is what they're getting excited about. Was it against the Ravens? Was it against the, was that start again? Was the one start against that terrible Ravens defense that was a terrible, most of the
season. Good the many seasons before that and only good when Kyle Hamilton is in, in their defensive secondary because these, these hopes are clinging to something that is a very small sample. Right, not a lot.
That's what I'm talking about, right? Where there's not a lot of recent precedents for what we've seen or haven't seen from Malik Willis and him becoming the guy they hope he's going to be. But at the same time, I, I like sighting with the people who have the information that I definitely don't have, I'm sitting on my couch watching games and talking here, you know,
“like a dope and guys like John Eric Sullivan, it's, oh, what's he ever shown you before?”
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You don't think it's a shame. You don't think it's a shame. You don't think it's a shame. But that I don't think is fair about it, because I know he was important. I understand what it is that you're saying.
Leads the NFL in Yardsburg, Tempht, and QB rating in 2022. Led the NFL in passing yards in 2023, and then his brain gets totally scrambled. And last year, 2024, he leads the NFL in completion percentage. But in there, his brain gets totally scrambled. So what do you do with that?
Mike says, Mike says, I love a guy when he's healthy. Don't love a guy when he's not healthy. Two of was playing, and all indications are from watching what happened to him short circuit. That wasn't a healthy quarterback trying to play last year throwing bubble screens and everything behind the line of scrimmage.
And so you're calling him a bust, and I'm like, how fair is that when you're talking about brain scrambling? I mean, mate.
“Well, okay, is it only not fair because the injury is brain, or would it be any injury?”
Well, but I don't think you say bust of like Mike said yesterday when we're talking about the all-time dolphin bus. He said, you're teal green, but that doesn't count because he was injured. He never played. He was gone the whole time.
He never showed you anything.
And Mike saying, well, that doesn't count because he's injured. In this particular case, a guy is out there, and obviously, we don't have the expertise as doctors with the diagnosis to know enough about concussions. But what we saw indicates, oh, that quarterback's not in any way physically right from the way that he's playing, but it's not an injury that you can quantify, or that you can
see, or that keeps him out like an ankle, keeps him out temporarily. But when he comes back, you don't know what level of fuzzy he is. You don't know how honestly he's being with doctors. You don't know how desperately he wants to get out on the field and his passing tests with, you know, hiding the fact that he is not sleeping well at night or has headaches
or whatever. It's just, you don't know what's physically going on in his head, but you're watching the games and you know, something's clearly not right because you rarely see a quarterback. And Mike's mentioned, RG3 and Carson went, they had physical injuries that we can point to.
Like they physically broke. This guy was still out there and was mentally broken.
“I think you, you can point to it just the same, and he's also had the hip injuries and”
other injuries on top of that, but Kyle Murray, I mean, towards not even the biggest mystery in this free agent class, I think Kyle Murray's the biggest, you know, mystery because like to a, we saw him come out the gates, well, not to a sputtered a little bit. In fact, was pulled by Ryan with Ryan Fitzpatrick, but he, he led the league in passing. Kyle Murray felt like a slam dunk.
He was an electric football player and what, what happened there, Call of Duty? I think a lot of the commentary from two of this past year also bothers me. Like I think a lot of the things that he said, I think a lot of the behavior thrown the teammates under the bus several times, the stuff he even would tie, recill at the beginning of the season, show me the money, of course, which was, and that was before he starts
to be a bad quarterback. But even then, it was like terribly off-putting. I, and, and the whispers of stuff you hear and beside behind the scenes with him in Mike McDaniel, well, by the way, like, to a tongue of I loa, but like, I don't know where that relationship went wrong, but you would have thought that two of would like be thankful
every day of his life for Mike McDaniel, no matter what you think of Mike McDaniel as a head coach, to us should be calling up Mike McDaniel every single day and thanking him for how he helped him in his career, but I think what happened at the end, okay, is a whole bunch of people who didn't know how to be leaders, got swallowed by the things that
“don't swallow great leaders, like they, and when I say they don't know how to be leaders,”
they've never been put in the position where they had to be before and then at the end
as everything was, as I say, the ship be sinking, everybody was trying to blame everyone else for why it is, it was sinking, and so that's where it broke apart. I'm sure with McDaniel and to a McDaniel said when he got here, you guys remember a couple
Of breathless interviews we did with McDaniel and to a McDaniel says, I've ne...
a more accurate quarterback when he inherits to a before he's thrown a pass in a professional
game for McDaniel, McDaniel says that, and then to a seem like a fine leader does when Chris Cody was next to him, fiddling with his strings on his shorts as he was just gazing lovingly into the eyes of two of, because he was saying all the bold quarterbacking leadership things that you'd like fine if it was still leading the league in passing. It wouldn't feel, show me the money would feel fartly far less offensive to you if it
had been something that was still leading the league in passing. Oh, but I didn't like it when he said it. I mean, when he signed that contract, he was still, but most of us certainly myself believed it was still a good quarterback, like I thought it was off putting the moment that he said it was strange.
And by the way, money changes dude sometimes, like didn't he make some changes in his personal
life too, you know, like didn't he get rid of the trainer or the guy who was with them
for years? I don't know, it's possible money changes, yeah. Yes, we did say fartly, no, nobody noticed we're gonna be okay. I think that I deserve to... Well, he did say fartly, he was on a point, so I didn't want to say anything.
Didn't say I'd come in. Yeah. Did you hear it? Did you hear fartly? No, I didn't.
I was too involved with trying to make my point, sometimes when I try and make my point, I'm really focused on the thing that I'm trying to get at, and I don't really pay attention to other people. Anyone else experienced that sometimes? Yeah, you just wait and you just think like, oh man, it's my turn to turn to turn.
I'm waiting for my turn, you know, and that's good, because I was a little bit attacked. You know, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, but in your head, there's nothing else happening.
“So I'm waiting, yeah, I'm waiting for my turn to get in, you know what I'm saying?”
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How jacked up is this sub-station to see my Kevin's rolling around? It just fresh me for the electrical sub-station in San Francisco. You like that move? They're moving it though. They're better.
They're better. My Kevin's has been struggling with injury, so where does he go? Let me go to San Francisco, they're physios seem to know what they're doing. Can I be honest with you, like obviously my Kevin's is a huge name, all right?
And there are some other big names that moved around yesterday, Kenneth Walker, the third for sure.
But like, am I the only one that's supposed to pretend that I know who all of these names are, and the guys who are getting paid yesterday, like there's a lot of guys who are getting a lot of minds. Like, I don't really know what that is. Yeah, there's a bidding war for a guard right now, and this one's really stretching the knowledge, but there's some big impactful names there. But we're going to put you to the test later on in the show.
Oh, maybe we'll run some of these moves by you. Oh, that sounds a little bit like maybe big move or not a big move? Exactly right, exactly what I was.
“Okay, that's what I'm talking about there, all right?”
I was surprised though, with the Malik Willis movie yesterday from the Dolphins, because I felt that this is a team. Like, I don't love the idea of paying a quarter back when your team is going to be bad. Like, don't look just still going to be bad, okay? And I don't love the idea of paying a quarter back when your team is bad. I mean, I just said yesterday, I believe the only two ways that you could win with your quarterback is either being a Hall of Fame
Calibra quarterback or he has to be on a good value. And the Dolphins have a guy who's like kind of in the middle now and not a good team around him. My concern is what I've been hearing and not to make it about a certain other franchise. But what I've been hearing around here for weeks is like you don't want to be in the middle. And that's what the Dolphins have been for about 30 years.
And the thing you could look at with Willis is like high upside, right? Even though he's a few years into the league, you can convince yourself on a project. This isn't signing maybe Kyla Murray or another kind of middleing quarterback. Where you're going to win games and there's no hope. If you win a bunch of games with Malik Willis, cool. But I would have thought this is like the perfect time for one year to tank, right?
Isn't that what everyone is saying is what a good franchise would do. But the quarterback class isn't assumed to be a really good one any year from now. Well, yeah, next year I guess it's a little bit better to be really good, but I'm talking. Yeah, okay. I get you. I think that maybe this is a good year to try to take your shot with a high ceiling
“quarterback. That's why I'm doing wins the high ceiling part of it.”
I guess. I mean, this guy was, I mean, those are pretty impressive stats.
I think some of that is funny.
He's not winning these games and often like he's efficient, but he's also not being trusted,
“which scares you. But I think they did about as well, especially when you have to be good with it”
because of what you're saying there might. Yeah. This is the best of the options. It's either him or Kyler Murray and Kyler Murray is old and they're in Cap Hell. They're like immediate decisiveness from a front office that you want to believe in. And I think they write off the bat, gave you a reason to be optimistic about them. To be honest, I think you probably could have gotten Kyler Murray at a cheaper number, right?
Because he's already washed goods and it's just like, yeah, well, they're eating money. And there's offset language. So Kyler Murray's going to sign for the minimum somewhere. That's that's what I'm saying. Like you would have gotten him for less money. And you could have had an escape hatch of like, all right, this isn't working. We can go figure something out next here.
The problem is when you bring in a Malik Willis to kind of be a piece that surrounds your team and gets you to the next level.
Like you need the pieces that are surrounding the quarterback. Like the dolphins don't have that. They don't have the offensive line. The defense is in shambles. Like they don't have anything. So how do you how do you look at this guy and scout him perfectly to be like, All right, he's the quarterback of the future when we don't know what we have around. The problem would have been, though, if they signed Kyler Murray and you win enough games to be out of the
archmaning race, you'd be infuriated at least theoretically with Malik Willis. If you do that, it's because you're getting flashes of a high ceiling quarterback. But I will say like, if you go 6 and 10, because Malik Willis is just okay. And you've committed this money to this guy and you play yourself out of the ability to get that top tier quarterback in the draft next year. It feels like a strange decision to me.
They should play that 17th game, though. That was a good joke, too. It's an ally with the middle that Jeremy speaks of there. I don't think the dolphins have been in the middle. The heat have been in the middle. The dolphins have not been in the middle. It's not just not winning a playoff game. They haven't made the playoffs that often. Like I think they've been a below average team for 30 years. Even as I understand what you're
saying that 7 and 10 last year feels like it's in the middle. But they haven't in those 30 years. It's not just that they haven't won a playoff game. They haven't gotten to the playoffs a whole bunch and then lost. Like they rarely get to the playoffs. And I actually think that when you're saying they've been in the middle, I think of the Steelers more like that. The middle where my Tomlins always having a winning season, but they get to the playoffs.
And they can't get any better because they're just stuck there. And it's what Jimmy Johnson said, what is the enemy of great is good. I think what Jeremy means is in the middle of the draft. Right. The dolphins seem to find their way being bad in the early part of the season. And then just being good enough in the middle to end part of the season to destroy any draft
“capital that they would have going into the future. I think that's what it means is the”
middle. It's like they're always drafting 14 to 16 and getting the third best guard over the last
decade they average eight wins a season. That's quite literally the middle. They're just a tick under 500. They draft in the middle of the first round every single time. And while they don't have enough success to make the postseason, that's difficult. That's more difficult in the NFL than it would be in the NBA. They were only the six now seven teams that make the postseason. They've been averaging eight wins a year. Yeah, for the last 10 years. And that is what is
the result of 15 years before that. Because it was 15 years before the 10 years that you're talking about 15 of them. So it's 25 years of not winning a playoff game. But Zazlo said something about this brain trust. He said that they have info I don't have on Malik Willis. Why are we not extending that same grace to the Miami heat? As all of them seem to say, our team isn't what the record indicates. Now that Tyler Heroes back and whenever Norman Powell comes back,
he's probably going to be coming off the bench. I guess because the way the ball is moving now, this is your core and Norman Powell is here to help that core. I think they need a player that's better than Tyler Hero and Bamm out of Bio. But what this team has been with Norman Powell as its best player isn't what it's been the last few games with Tyler Hero playing that way, getting eastern conference player of the week. And Bamm out of Bio playing the way they've played
over the last 10 games. I'm sorry Zazlo. I think they've been extended plenty of grace because this is the same stuff that they've said for the last two seasons. I get maybe this year
they can be right, but it ultimately will end with a team that doesn't get out of the first round.
“That's what it is for me, too. It's three straight years. They're saying the same thing like,”
like I'm trying to extend some grace to the new Dolphins brass because they have more info than me. But of Malik Willis for a third consecutive year is not any good. I'm not going to extend
Them that grace anymore.
talking about, they were coming off a long still. They were coming off of a finals appearance
and then Jimmy got hurt in the play-in game. Then the following season he sabotaged the season and now they have a completely new system with a completely new roster. And that team is trending in the right direction, a team that's sitting what two games, one game out of fifth place. Say and you know what? Like I get what you're saying. And obviously I trust the heat implicitly but man, like let's let's also include the 23 season where they went to the finals. We're talking
then four straight regular seasons that they're a play-in caliber team. And like what history in the league is there of that? A team that every year is a seven or an eight seed but man they're really better than their record. You can hold out hope and say like this year it's going to be different. But you're chasing like this is fact-based. They are a play-in team. They have for an Olympiad. That's who they are. And they've been saying the same thing. Time and time again.
Maybe they can do the thing that they did a couple of years ago. Get hot and shock the world. Bill Simmons says he's horrified. That's horrifying. He's got to be that's horrifying. The beatiest thing in the year. That's like, that's like, that's energy. That's godzilla type energy for Jeremy is Bill Simmons being nervous about the mighty. That's so good. That's so good. There's about who? It's my favorite day of the year.
My favorite day of the year is the day in the regular season where Bill Simmons is officially afraid of the mighty heat. He happens every year. What do you think of and we're going to get to some sound here
“in about five minutes that I've never heard come out of a baseball player's mouth about a teammate?”
We're going to do this in five minutes. But what did you think of what the NBA decided with Terry Rosier yesterday? Well, I don't think the NBA decided anything. That's my main problem. The NBA predictably Adam Silver predictably did nothing. You know, why? Because Adam Silver is what Tony? Nothing. He's on nothing. All right. The Charlotte Hornets decided we're going
to give you a second round pick and let's consider this case closed. Like hold on a second.
Why are the Hornets giving the heat anything? The only reason they would give the heat something is because they must have done something wrong. If you didn't do anything wrong, why would you give the heat anything? Oh, hey, hold on. Sometimes you can settle and be completely innocent. Okay, this is not a quarter-law and no one's being sued. The Hornets are just giving the heat a second round pick. So if something wrong happened, why isn't the NBA stepping in and giving the heat
their pick back? You don't think that they were guiding hand throughout this. I assume three parties. The NBA and the Hornets were all collaborating on a salute. That is how Barry Jackson put it in his tweet. Why does there need to be a solution if there wasn't something wrong that happened? Did something wrong happen? Because if something wrong happened, they each had their pick back.
“Kelty. It's murky. There is a victim here. It's really not. There is a victim, but was there intent?”
I think all that stuff matters. The intent is don't figure out that he was throwing games. Yeah, let's try to trade him before everything comes out. The intent is if you're aware that the FBI is looking into a player, you'll let the heat know. That's the intent. Did they do that? No. It's a cover up. It's literally a cover up. They're covering up what happened. No, it's nothing. It's what it is. You have a commissioner here who is on nothing. He's on nothing. Is it over?
Like, is there going to settlement work? It's over. So, uh, says that it's not the NBA doing that, but you think the NBA was just totally hands off with this. Like, you think Charlotte just decided. You know what? I feel bad about this. Many, many months later, I'm going to just send this
second round, maybe we were wrong. You know, I'm, look, our general manager, brother Teresa. He's just,
he's just, it's, he's feeling guilt, and he wants to just send you a second round pick,
“because it was unfair or what happened to you. You think the NBA didn't have anything to do with?”
Why was it unfair? Well, if it was unfair, he should get the first round pick back. Why was it unfair? Guilty. It's, it's not we're going to give you a first round pick unless he's be investigated by the FBI and then you give us back a second. No, no, it would be the thing. You look better today.



