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I feel like you're doing more damage to me there than we did to the wizards when we changed there. Wizard W to an L and made them the lizards. David Samson is with us. Hopefully he will be with us on Sunday as we plan
and Oscar and selection Sunday party. And I wanna ask the group here with kids before we get to David Samson. So Tony Mike and Chris Roy had to depart. He has an emergency to attend to,
but when you have kids, what kind of notice do I have to give you to get you out of town? Because Adnan Burke is complaining that we only gave him 11 days notice
and 11 days for us is a miracle. Like that is unbelievable. - It's like a year. Like we had a year to know when the Oscars were and when selection Sunday was,
but for us to give people 11 days notice on anything here is a miracle. What's the proper amount of notice to give somebody who has four kids so that you can get them down here to Miami?
- I feel like the older they are, the quicker turnaround you can kind of go, right? Like my daughter's 14 months, but Mike's daughter's probably five or six. So it's like a little bit of an easier kind of thing
where you can be like, all right, Juliet, you're gonna go do X Y and Z. For me, for my daughter, it's like, you're 14 months. You can't even walk.
What do we do here? - You got to need a little extra buffer of a time. - I love it. - 11 days, Dan, I could come back three times and 11 days.
- So that is enough time, you guys, because Adnan's complaining about it. Adnan's saying you can't be down here because we didn't give them enough notice. - I mean, yeah, we get all agree.
But culturally, we have a problem with this. Like 11 seems like a lot of time for us as you mentioned. - David, what are your thoughts here?
“- I think that you have to plan things more”
than 10 days in advance because it's not just about, remember, he's got a lot of other stuff on the schedule. A lot of places to be. It's not in about kid coverage necessarily,
but getting flights and I don't know why to be bringing his kids. It's not a vacation, it's for work, but maybe it's the weather I guess, but doesn't matter. I think 11 days should have been enough for Oscars,
but for a general sort of coverage down there, you need more than 11 days. - He has two jobs as well. Adnan work is perpetually working. So that is part of the equation as well,
but he filed it under the four kids and Brella 'cause it sounds better. It doesn't sound like he's making us his third priority, but we will have him as a part of the coverage. He will just not be down here.
I wanted to ask the group here before we get to some finances with David. Why are we so obsessed with the money and football where every contract that Daniel Jones signs? We know it to the dollar in a way
“that we don't even know movies and entertainment, right?”
You might hear an actor made 19 million for a movie,
but it's never to the dollar in a way that it is in sports
and don't tell me salary cap 'cause it's not like anything. It's not like the average fan cares about the apron or really knows or understands what a salary cap is in basketball or football. Why do we care so much and do we do it much of anywhere else
where we're obsessed with the amounts on these contracts? - I just think it's when an actor gets a role. It's not like we know the contract beforehand, right? Like when tree Hendrickson signed his deal for for 112, they report that as part of the deal.
And like Leo's making, I don't know how much for one battle after no, it didn't get reported when they started. - Yeah, they started disclosing it in a similar fashion on the front end. You would care more about it.
It's part of the appeal of the sport. And no, it's not just about the cap, as you mentioned. Baseball, those contracts are reported on probably more than any of the other major sports in this country. - David though, you're old enough to remember.
We didn't use to do this. I don't remember when they started,
but I never knew what athletes made early in my career.
That wasn't something that was known. - Yeah, there were always lists. It was always leaked by the players union, what the salaries were of all the players. And it's really not disclosed by teams.
We would say terms not disclosed,
Then it gets leaked and we would not deny it
off the record two members of the media.
“But the contracts get approved by the union”
and by the commissioner's office.
And there's always leaks within one of those two bodies.
And there's also leaks in your organization. The reason why we're obsessed with money always. We get the Forbes 500, the Forbes Fortune 100, 500 companies who are the richest people. You get the list of movie stars.
You do get who made the most money this last 12 months. When George Clooney sells his tequila company or whatever it was, you find out how much money he made. There's an obsession with money that always has been. - David, I'm telling you that at the beginning
of my career, I know baseball has fiddled with this because the agents do want everyone to know what their client has making. And I think baseball started this. I do remember the John Concax of the world,
but there was a time very early in my career where I simply did not see numbers and athletes getting this kind of coverage for the numbers. This was not always the case. - Well, the numbers are so different now.
They're just, they're out of this world. When you can have slippers at the end of the bench, making $5, 10 million, and you mention Concax, the young people may not understand that, but that has become the example that's used
“for what it is when you have to get to a salary floor”
where you just have to overpay people who stink. And that's what the MBA is right now. There's so many overpaid guys 'cause they've got to get to a number. And in the NFL, it's sort of the opposite in a lot of ways
where you're finding that the cap can really be a constraint on the team building in a lot of ways and how you have to try to avoid the cap. So, baseball, I don't know where you were, Dan, you just weren't focused on it,
but the numbers have been around for 50 years. - To David's point, I remember when Dylan Brooks got cut by Memphis, everybody's like,
"Man, he's never gonna get another job."
Houston's like, "Hey, we need to raise the salary floor, "give him 84 million dollars over four years." He ended up being a decent player now with Phoenix, but it's like numbers like that stick with you. I don't know if it's the numerology.
- For me, it's Austin, for me, it's Austin, Kroshear. They paid him $53 million and I was confused by it, but the reason I bring all of this up is at least in part because what I've just seen happen in football, do you guys know what Kenneth Walker got
off the top of your head, right? This is a Super Bowl MVP, off the top of your head,
“do you all know what Kenneth Walker got from the chiefs?”
- I do, so I'm gonna refrain. - I do not, I don't, I know we got three years, but I have no idea what the number was. - He got three years, $45 million, and to me, it was a little bit strange, right?
That's Bradley Chub, money. This is the Super Bowl MVP, and it's not just the Super Bowl MVP. Kansas City was very bad at 10 yard runs last season, and Kenneth Walker was very good at 10 plus yard runs.
I would think that would have more value than Bradley Chub. I would think, are you guys aware,
Jalen Phillips just got four years 120 million.
Kenneth Walker is younger than Jalen Phillips, and his body is in better condition than Jalen Phillips, and Jalen Phillips just got four years 100 something million. - But this is all a positional value in the NFL. - Yeah, and it makes perfect sense.
But when you mentioned Kenneth Walker, there was a clip that we missed from the championship celebration. I'd love to get your take and David's take. David, do you think John Schneider, the Seahawks GM,
might have tipped his hand here on how the negotiations with Kenneth Walker were going. This is video from the championship parade. - And Ken Walker being the MVP, let's go. - Woo!
(crowd cheering) (crowd cheering) - Oh, no. - No. - He tried negotiating with me five minutes ago,
it was really weird. (crowd laughing) Anyway, hey, MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP. - That's Kenneth Walker, right next to him, staring off into the distance, haunted in hollow.
- Yeah, and it's gonna see what's your gots is up to. - He wants me to give him money. Anyway. - Stugots would have done all of this, including the left awkward left hand of,
you know, what I've got in my holster, an MVP chant to knock off this awkwardness. - One more time, because Kenneth Walker's shaking his head the entire time. Just lock in to Kenneth Walker.
- Or so much like Stugots. - To Ken Walker be in the MVP, let's go! Woo! Woo! (crowd cheering) (crowd cheering)
Oh, no! - And then-- - He tried negotiating with me five minutes ago, it was really weird. (crowd laughing)
Anyway, hey, MVP, MVP, MVP, MVP. - I wanna help, I wanna, I wanna utilize all of this, but Samson first your thoughts, and please Chris, I want you to just isolate for me, the unbelievable silence at a celebration parade
Because the awkwardness neutered all of the noise
in a way that made you be able to hear two or three awkward isolated laughs at a parade, because the general manager had just done something so stupid, David, your thoughts on that. - Are you suggesting they stupidity
because he knew already that he wasn't retaining Walker, Walker knew already he wasn't being retained. So there was nothing to surprise. Walker may have been thought that he was being embarrassed by that, by the disclosure of a negotiation,
but it wasn't a negotiation. What happens in those parades, or what would happen when you see each other
“in the lunch from like, "Hey, man, you got 60 for me?”
"I got 60, come on, I need 60." And the GM's like, "Dude, come on, man, no, I don't got 60. "I'm sure they had a very honest conversation about it." So I don't think there's bad blood. I'm not resigning an MVP, this is a real big web.
It's not a big, it's fine. - Yeah, I don't think Kenneth Walker appreciated that very much. Like he clearly wanted to stay in Seattle, and maybe he was trying to have one last gas but trying to get the GM to keep him and John Schneider,
so this guy over here thinks I'm gonna pay him. - I don't know, I'm thinking like different. - All right, no, he clearly did not like any of it, but I need to play all of this again,
the entirety of it because, okay, first of all,
this is just great, great video. - One, I can't believe how much the best general manager in football looks like Stugot. But also, how he barrels through the awkwardness, "Watch the specifics of the left hand."
First of all, you've got a red solo cup in one hand. - Of course you do. - And after the awkwardness, the fact that the left hand goes out, tell me you guys don't recognize Stugot's
“just in this sausage-finger left-hand situation.”
- To Ken Walker being the MVP, let's go! - Whoo! - Whoo! - Whoo! - Whoo!
- Whoo! - Oh no! - And then-- - He tried to go sitting with me five minutes ago, it was really weird.
(audience laughing) - Anyway, hey, LVP, LVP, LVP, LVP. (audience laughing) - Not anyway, it was doing so much left in there. Can we just focus in, focus in here real quick,
on just Kenneth Walker's face? I'm sorry to do this to you David, but I just-- I don't want to watch anything else except that left-hand coming awkwardly because we're zoning in on the entirety of Kenneth Walker's face throughout that.
So that you guys can just see him looking at the back of his general manager's head. To God's his head and thinking to himself, I'm gonna be in Kansas City in a couple of days.
“- He tried to go sitting with me five minutes ago,”
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The Max Crosby situation and what it is that you found most interesting about what happened there are the Raiders now. Can the Raiders even sign all those guys they signed or do they have a problem
“there with being able to sign the guys they signed?”
Because now they'd be over the salary cap again if they have Max Crosby. Well, there were certainly announcements made but it's unclear whether or not there were actual agreements signed and whether the players that the Raiders reportedly signed are part of their roster. You're not officially on a team until you're entered into the computer
where you are added to the roster of that team. And that's when you start with all the cap calculations, et cetera. What surprised me was to cost a coming out and saying he was gutted. Well, guess what? It was your decision. You failed him.
I've had plenty of guys who come in and their shoulders are, you know, torn up and their elbows look like crap and they've got arthritis in their hips and you just do the trade anyway. What's the difference? He was in charge of that and so you can't both be gutted and deny the trade.
You could say that they were embarrassed. Maybe they realized they gave up too much and they once they lost their center
and they lost two first round picks.
They were like, well, maybe we can pivot to Hendrix and they chose to do that. But then don't say you're gutted. And if he failed his physical, then don't say you're gutted. Just say, hey, we've moved on and we couldn't be happier with Tre Hendrix and life happens for a reason.
So I thought that his take on it was supposed to make us feel badly for him and I certainly don't. Well, let's, let's play that Eric to cost a sound. The Ravens General Manager for the audience. We don't have that sound.
I'm getting right here. Um, okay, I was told that we had that sound. I do want to ask though, David. I know, look, it's Bush League, what Eric to cost and the Ravens did. I understand that perspective of it and it looks bad.
But isn't this literally what the two day illegal, illegal tampering period
“from Monday afternoon to Wednesday afternoon when the league year officially begins?”
Like, isn't this what that 48 hour period is forward? Hey, we just came up with a agreement and as long as everything checks out, we'll make an official on Wednesday. Like, did the Ravens really do anything wrong? Yeah, no, you get that 48 hour period.
You can get that whenever you want. Whenever you make a deal, you sign what's called an L.O.I. a letter of intent and in that L.O.I. it's not binding because they're out for physical. Sometimes you can do an L.O.I. with an out for an owner approval.
Those are not as popular, but if you sneak that into a trade agreement, like, hey, we agree
to this trade, but we got to get final sign off by the owner, that's always funny.
But you have sign off by the commissioner's offices required and then you have a physical and either you pass or you fail, either you accept the L.O.I. and make it into a binding agreement or the trade just goes away. And in this case, the trade just went away. I don't blame either side of it, but if you're the raiders, it stinks because clearly
they've got to come out and they've got to tell the other 30 teams that they're dealing with, not counting themselves and the Ravens and they've got to build Crossby's value back because we love to call on players who we know had an L.O.I. but then a trade didn't go down. We would call and say, hey, we'll take them.
But by the way, we're offering 10 cents on the dollar, but you obviously need to move them for a roster spot or for money or for whatever. We'll take them. So I assume there are a bunch of snipers trying to get Crossby right now and that's a bad thing.
“I wouldn't assume that I think they've told everybody in the league he's damaged.”
I would not assume that. That's an awful lot of stuff to give up for a guy who has declined the last two years
At least in part because his body doesn't work right.
That's what a sniper is. That means you get let you off or less.
“There's no two first round picks out there right now for Crossby.”
The sniper comes and says, I'll give you a fourth rounder and a conditional second rounder because if you got it, move them, you got to move them. And then that could be the makings of a deal at which point the raiders are like, this is ridiculous. I'm not going to trade him at his low like this.
That's the risk you take when you enter into a trade agreement pending a physical is that the quality and the value of your asset will decrease. So the raiders apparently have told all of their free agents who they've come to agree to terms with, they've told all of them, we're still honoring these deals, we do have the money.
So apparently they are going to be able to afford them. But like David, Max Crossby, late last night, put out a tweet saying, everything happens for a reason. Believe nothing you hear in half of what you see, I'm a raider, I'm back, run that shit. And it's a gif of the undertaker being born again, coming out of a casket.
Does that mean like, did the raiders then tell him, okay, we're definitely not trading you? Like, why would he put that out? And say that to him, because that's probably not true.
So you would never tell a player that you're not going to trade him because everybody's
likely to get traded or certainly possible, there could be if someone else, let me say this. If another team pulls up with two first rounders, you can bet that Crossby is gone immediately. So I would assume the raiders wouldn't be that stupid, but again, you just never know. But for Crossby, it's a tough position. You don't want to feel as though you're not valued by a team, which is he went to Baltimore
folks. He was like introduced by them. He did a whole thing publicly about how much she enjoyed the raiders, but now he's all about Baltimore bringing a championship to Baltimore. And now he's got to sit on it and get back to Vegas.
It's just a sucky situation for players, but it's part of the business. Dave, in that situation where he obviously had a knee surgery in January, so it's pretty recent, the doctors know kind of what the deal is. It wasn't a major structural damages repairing a meniscus like that's kind of in every day situation.
But when they fail the physical like that, don't you figure there's got to be something else in that they saw? I know the raiders at the end of last year wanted him to be out of games, and he would show him shooting a basketball, and I'm fine, there's nothing wrong with me, and they got in trouble with kind of circumventing what the rules are a little bit, but like the
doctors know what's going on, right? Yeah, there's a possibility that there was a trial balloon of this trade, and all of a sudden the press was so negative that they lost their center in two first round picks that the ravens decided to forget it. I'm going to back off this trade because I overpaid, that's possible.
The other possibility is that they looked across these films and saw something worse than his knee, that maybe the raiders had not focused on, that's possible. But what's more likely is that he was exactly as advertised, there was one set of Metacles that got exchanged.
“They look at the films that I think they knew.”
Let me say this, there's not a player we ever acquired, even Henderson Alvarez, who when we got him from Toronto, we looked in, and we were like, "Oh, that's worse than we thought damn it. What are we going to do with him?" So that you see that once in a while, but I wouldn't say that there's an MRI that you
get and you look and you say, "Oh my God, it is elbow ligament.
It is totally off the brick and bone, and it was never talked about between the trainers.
That really doesn't happen." Can you guys put up on the pole for me, please, Jude, do you circumvent anything other than rules? Like when you use the verb circumvent, is it used for anything other than rules? I also want you guys to put on the screen before we play the entirety of the video.
So look of a very scared Eric de Costa. You guys tell me whether the Ravens general manager here looks frightened to you as you see. He's got to answer questions about doing business poorly with the Raiders. Go ahead and cue that sound.
I mean, I understand it. You know, I understand it. We live in that age of skepticism and people question, especially people that don't really know me or know the Ravens culture and the Ravens organization, so I understand it. As I said at the beginning, we've got to responsibility, I've got to responsibility to the
Ravens, to this community, to our fans, and to Steve Bishardi, to do what we think is best for the club.
And that's what we always try to do.
“Every decision we make is based on this idea, is this the best thing for the Ravens.”
It's very, very challenging. Again, I understand how people might maybe from afar would feel that way, but nobody is more upset about this than me, gutted by it, actually, and so I regret, a big regret for me, but we will move on as a football team, and I think there's many, many opportunities
For us to grow as a team, to become a better team, to build our roster.
I don't know, I think the Raiders are more upset. Me too. He upset though because he looks like a dirty businessman in public because the Raiders, what the Raiders sent out might as well have said, hey, Ravens, go bleep yourself, we'll have no further comment.
Like the Ravens did us dirty, that was unbelievably dirty. That guy's an asshole, we have no further comment.
“That's what the comment read like, even though it was sanitized.”
It's why I believe Dan that there could be something else going on that it could have been from a PR standpoint that they just, the owner may have called up to cost and said, dude, first founders and now we lost our center, it looks like that's the worst trade in the history of trades.
So there is a possibility that that is the reason, and then you can always blame it on
medical concerns because that's like saying your back hurts, no one can prove that it doesn't, and you can just get away with having a bad back even when you're back is fine. So you can get away with saying no trade because of medical concerns and the truth is it was no trade because you were getting your ass kicked in PR. David weren't you part of one of these trades where someone was sent back, Colin Ray with
the pod rays, like what was the deal when that happened? There was an injury when he was pitching a couple of times, wasn't Mike Hampton something similar? Well, no, Mike Hampton just wouldn't be a Marlin. He just wouldn't want to, you didn't want to, school systems in Colorado.
“That's why he signed with Colorado, but when we wanted to trade for him, he wouldn't”
come here because he wanted to win a championship and to do that, he had to go to Atlanta and the irony is we won the championship at Atlanta didn't. He and I had a funny talk about that recently, but yeah, Colin Ray, that's a crazy one. That would be the equivalent of Max Crosby coming to the Ravens, playing a game with the Ravens in week one and then all of a sudden getting hurt and then the league steps
and it says, hold on a second, something weird happened and Max Crosby gets sent back
to the Raiders after playing a game with the Ravens only a few of you may remember Colin Ray pitched a game for the Marlins. You guys think you can get a Crosby Ravens jersey because I imagine that would have some worth if we were able to get a, like if I were a Ravens, if I was savvy, I would go to the games in a Crosby Ravens jersey because of how close that was to happening.
“Do you think you can actually get what I bet you do you will have one on today?”
You can get one made, but do you think the Ravens had any made? I guess is what I, do you think you could get it through the Ravens? No, you don't need to make up during it off season unless they were doing a press conference jersey, a veil where they, they unveil the jersey like when you shake hands and hold up the jersey, unless that had been planned, there'd be no reason for the club to make up
the official jersey because they're off season. Something that I cannot help but notice, David, the world baseball classic is so wonderfully hyspanic that Juan Soto is doing home run trots that I've never seen him do in Washington and New York because he's surrounded by such a Dominican, he's surrounded by such a frenzy in the stands yesterday here locally and it's as good as the stadium that you built David
has ever felt in terms of press box shaking and just overrun by Latin people listen to just some of the ambient sound and watch Soto run the bases here where he's pointing at the sky and just really enjoying the flourish of all this. Tony was there and he'll have some stuff for you tomorrow on that because he says the whole place was shaking, listen to the ambient sound on Fernando Tatis hitting a home run.
Not the first base yet, not the first base yet and now he's at first never got there actually.
He's still he's still walking around. It was some of the most incredible baseball that the vibes were so high and every time that somebody would come up to bat and you'd hear the crack of the bat, the place would explode. You couldn't even hear after a certain point and you would watch the guys bat flip 45 feet
in the air, Soto threw his bat basically to the dugout, Tatis was incredible, Soto was incredible, Vlad he was incredible, like everybody was so, so high. Tony and I were at the Budweiser bar out in left field, watching from there during the inning where Katel Marte and then later on Vlad Guerrero Jr ends up hitting a home run and when Guerrero Jr hit the home or not only is the entire area exploding, people throwing their
Hats dancing with each other but also as Vlad he crosses home plate and I cou...
which two players it was from where we were, one player hops on another player's back and he
“sprints down the first base line with the piggyback going on it was insane, the energy level and”
the noise was amazing David.
I'm so happy that you guys enjoy that. That's a couple of things guys, number one we've had World Baseball classics with Dominican Venezuela before that we're also allowed it's amazing number two Dan it's not a Latino thing if you went to the Tokyo dome that place was so loud when Otani hit the grand slam that you could not believe the noise that goes on so there are other fan bases in addition to the Latin
fan bases that are loud and excited and number three Mike is that I don't ever want to hear from you again ever not one time that you're upset about Marlon's Park because just that one game
by itself makes Marlon's Park a deal worth doing and what it does for Miami.
So for me I am I'm very happy.
“I really don't have to worry about that because I just lost all respect for you you won't be”
hearing from me. How does that one game? Not watch Devon Hester's kickoff return pal. How does that one game make that stadium worth it Jeremy couldn't get home because he couldn't get an Uber in the in what that neighborhood is after games because you promised us an economy
would build around that stadium and all there is is that one stupid Wendy's. Wait I'm very sorry it's totally easy the ingress and egress out of dolphin stadium that is a piece of cake and oh the AAA after a game don't worry biscuit moves like jello through the river give me a break. Now do we ever make a renon sunrise? I know I love that one. There's so many exits for that one. There's 360 degrees worth of exits but you're in the Everglades so there's that.
Just as someone that's taken uh right shares from all of these sporting venues locally. I went to the winter classic at that ballpark easily the worst experience of them all like by triple. I'm sorry. Don Levittard. Go pee pee. Stu gots. Go pee pee. This is the Don Levittard show with his Stu gots. There were more people there last night than the World Baseball Classic final in 2023 and the winter
classic. It was electric. Why did David just say to us I'm glad you guys enjoyed all of that. It sounded like there was an undercurrent of sarcasm in there as if you didn't enjoy it. No I I know because he built a sati. He sang your welcome for our joy. Okay that was the arrogance. Okay I didn't I couldn't do a right to read the arrogance. He just misread what the arrogance was. Thank you for the interview. I thought I thought that David would have some commentary
on Marc D'Arosa. The Italians bailed out the United States. Where I wanted to get with you guys on what you regard we did a little bit of this yesterday as the worst mistake you've ever seen
“someone in the position of Marc D'Arosa make because I believe that if Mexico had beaten Italy”
to knock the United States out of that that this would have been an all-time mistake that people would have remembered and associated with Marc D'Arosa's name for the rest of time. Even above his major league baseball career, but because Italy beat Mexico it's going to be a footnote and an afterthought and it's not going to go down as an all-time mental error from a manager thinking the United States had already advanced before they had actually advanced. I mean these are the
rules of the tournament. Maybe Dave has some good examples. Like previously I would say Nathaniel Hackett managing the clock to the point of settle for a 64-yard field goal. He got fired before he was at the end of that Thanksgiving game. Yeah, there was another, wasn't another Thanksgiving game stealers, lions in the old silver dome overtime coin flip. Controversy is the
what was said. But yeah, we're going to kick with this is when the first score would win an over time
and it costs them the game. Wasn't that Seahawks Green Bay or no, that's Matt Hasselbeck saying we want the ball we're going to win. That's different. That is right. That's right. And they didn't win. Was that morning wag? Marty Mortenwig. Yeah. Think so. David your thoughts on that as a blunder because I was saying yesterday that's a fireable offense. Like if they simply fired him they wouldn't because you wouldn't do that turmoil in the middle of a tournament. But if they
fired him I would have understood. Yeah, in a regular season, in an organization that wasn't
The WBC, that would be a fireable offense.
the players may have been dragging. We wanted to get the players off their feet. Just everything
“he did with the media was wrong. But you're not going to do a firing, you know, right before”
the quarterfinals. It's just not going to happen. March to row so we'll not be back to manage the WBC in 2030. I can promise you that. And this is not because of that only. You know, that's what he did. You know, mistakes happen. You can you can miss speak. But the way he did it and then doubled down with how he managed even though he managed the game exactly as he was supposed to manage the game. He didn't do the lineup. That's one of the funniest things here. Oh, he sat
Bryce Harper. He sat Cal Rally. No, that's not really how it worked. It was a decision that was made
for him about who was going to play because when players are in the classic, their teams are told,
"You're guys going to get a certain number of that. That's a certain number of starts, a certain number of innings pitched. It is all pre-planned." Kershaw, up in the bullpen. Yes,
“because that's exactly what was told when Kershaw would be pitching in a blowout situation”
and he needs the extra five minutes to prepare. So all of the talk of him mismanaging the game is not accurate, but mismanaging the media around the game was a big, big problem. All right, David. So you're telling me that you can get to the final of the WBC and the game is going to be managed based on what the players clubs told them they're allowed to do. 100. It's all pre-ordained. A hundred percent. And they'll tell you otherwise, but if you speak to the people doing it,
or you speak to someone who's run team who's given players to the WBC, you know exactly how many app bats your guys are going to get in exactly which games. Let me tell you, the pitching for the final game, it is Nolan McLean, who's starting. It doesn't matter whether it's against Japan, whether it's against anybody else. Nolan McLean is starting and he's going for innings 65 pitches at most. I don't think he'll go that many, but whatever it is, the mets have been in agreement with
the commissioner's office and Michael Hill about what his usage will be. What year in music classifies as making a song an oldie? The forties. Well, Jay-Z was made oldies earlier this week and you're doing big bands. That's not all you play the game. The 1940s makes it oldies, but they're telling me around here that the '90s and even 2005's gold digger is an oldie. What are you shaking your head and know about? That there are oldies and there are moldies now, that's Sinatra and
all of that are moldies that we have a new category of oldies. So if you do the math, that's like when we're listening to the '80s, that's songs from the '60s, where we consider them oldies.
And the answer is yes, if you're in the 2020s, listening to the 2000s, that's 20 years ago,
I guess that's an oldie. God, that makes me anxious, but I'm going to change my answer and 2000s are now considered oldies. That's a lot of demarcation. I came up with the Marlins World Series. Oh, three. It's a long time ago already. Listen, it's 23 years. There's no there's a whole generation. My son was born when to college and is in the working world. And he had didn't see a dolphin playoff when or a Marlins playoff when while he was before high school graduation. So
yeah, that is a, but he got the heat. So he certainly got to live better than a lot of people, but it's not easy to do it the way you guys think. I'm going to speed David up here to get through everything that he might want to have opinions about here because we're running out of time. So all your thoughts on the BAM out of bio 83 point situation go as quickly as you can. In 16 months, no one remember anything about what he did other than escort 83 and to not do it
because Kobe has 81 give me a break. If you could do it, do it. If he could have gotten 101, I would have loved it. I'm so happy that he did it. It was ugly for sure, but loved it. Oscars week is upon us. We're hoping to have a watch party with you and Adnan on Sunday that combines that and selection Sunday. Your thoughts quick as you can be on the Oscars. I know you have a lot of them. People are going to make it a race issue. If sinners doesn't win best picture,
a cooler as a win best director and that's not really what it is. Michael B. Jordan has a really good chance if not a definite chance to win best actor. There's going to be some locks but also
“some surprises come the show Sunday night. What's the movie that you're reviewing for us this week?”
I needed more time for this one. I did it Dan. I watched Melania. I don't did you. I saw five times. I could not believe when I saw the trailer for it. How stupid it was and I can't believe how empty her relationship is with Donald Trump. Even knowing as people market, I can't believe it.
I know I can't.
tell me whether it reflected or not how totally empty their relationship is where he's been
“elected president and a landslide. She hasn't watched it. Like she hasn't watched his speech. She”
hasn't like it's on the wrong with that. It's unbelievable to think that you would be this distant from your from your husband. Well and does Valerie watch every show you do? She would if I was named president of the United States. She'd be watching. She'd be watching that night. It don't. It's got an 11 on Rotten Tomatoes but a 98. 11 from the critics. I love it. 98 from the audience. It is the worst documentary ever seen. It doesn't teach anything
but be it's embarrassing. All I kept thinking about is I cannot believe that anyone put their name to this only to be that close to power and to be a part of it the way Amazon was. I was just shocked by it. There's no way that a film executive watched this and said, "Oh, that's a really good edit. This is a good 104 minutes. I'm just not buying it because no one could watch that and say it's
“interesting. You don't learn one thing. You don't get any insight into anything. All the things”
that have to happen for a documentary not one of them happened in this one but it's I was staggered by it. It was sad but I had to watch it. Watch it. That's the point. I caught up in the excitement. I would love a bunch of Zagaki's to argue against each other at some point because you guys were just just in the face stunned by something that works. You guys were that stunned by Zazlo breaking out Zagaki none of us had ever heard before. David, I don't know if you have seen this story but it's a bit
magical. Obviously, turn that music down. Thank you. Obviously, you find that at present moment, even MAGA is turning against Trump and what it takes is war and pedophilia to finally make that happen the most extreme of the things. It's not a war but also even though it is and we keep saying it is.
It's not critical strike mission. Epic fury. It's epic fury, but it's not true. He told the story
out of how it was named Epic fury and this is like a direct quote. I was kind of fall in a sleep that had a bunch of names and then I saw Epic fury. Yeah, that's about it. That's about how we thought it went as a president. And so there is some stuff here that is hugely serious but something funny that has happened here and I have seen the late night shows have fun with this and I couldn't stop watching the absurdity of what I'm about to show you. The backstory on this is that Donald Trump
has taken to giving dress shoes to some of the people in his totally incompetent and corrupt cabinet. And he gives them dress shoes but he guesses their shoe size. He does not ask them their shoe size. So he really? Yes, well watch this because this was stunning to see this even though it shouldn't be. And so his lackeys and the incompetence are afraid to not wear the shoes that he has given them. So this is what happens to Marco Rubio. He looks like you did when you were six and you put on your
dance shoes. Like when you're trying to go into your dance closet and it looks like these are uncomfortable to walk in because there's so much space behind the heel, it's remarkably stupid and totally unbreakable. So everyone in his cabinet, Donald Trump apparently loves this brand of
“shoe and it's an affordable shoe. It's like $145 from Floresha. Yeah and I think I actually think”
something else is at play here. I don't think he just guesses their sizes. I think it's very difficult for Donald Trump to fit his gout foot into a dress shoe and that shoe is very wide at the
ankle and he's like this shoe is amazing. And normal ankles look like that in the shoe.
He has impeached together that he loves his shoe so much because it's the only dress shoe that doesn't cut off circulation to his gout foot. He says you know what that gout foot? I had to take out your surprise by what we're showing you here, David. I'm just laughing because don't all NBA coaches on the bench wear the same shoes. I'd have to go back and look at it. Sometimes I know they dress the same but I think they may wear the same shoes and it's possible
that you buy shoes that have a little more space when you wear thicker socks, first, then socks out of all the things that we should be criticizing about the administration and there's so many that I can't list them all. David, I wanted it light, funny one. I didn't want it to do war and pedophilia again. I guess cornflation although if you're low. Cornflation when you take out like the things that everybody uses but he's kind of like a Batman villain not just because he's
evil but because he makes people dress like him. Like Mara Logo faces basically Joker cosmetics from
Batman 1989.
because my narcissism is the other way. I'm happy if people do not look like me or dress like me.
“I don't want that sort of comparator. I don't think you're going to worry about that one pal.”
Business on the top part of the bottle. Yeah. See you later, David. Oh, a pal off. We had a pal off there.
Yeah, let me get the sequence blazer. Try to ignore the shirt that came more on modern family.
“Try to ignore that when Interman was at the white house, they were saying you're Donald Trump's”
"smelt bad." But what I still want to tell you is not the champion of the studio.
The master of the laptop is soft-handed and the internet is like a master.
“I'm saying, you can say you're going back to school.”
Yeah, you're going back to school, huh? But you don't understand anything. Exactly. It's about philosophy. You're going back to school. You're going back to school. And if you're going back to school, you're going back to school. That's right. Safe. How is school?
I'm going back to school now. Now you're going back to school.



