Crazy Knicks Moment Draft and Knicks Hate Index With Sam Morril Live From New York!

It's a horrible outside, thank you all for coming. My wife, who is here, will tell you I was panicking, nobody was going to show up because of the rain. And then one of the guests who is the secret I want to say, who is like, they're New Yorkers.

They're tough. They're going to show up. And so you showed up. I'm going to sit because I'm a little nervous, so I'm going to sit.

I'll be bringing out a guest in a second.

But I'm going to talk for about two minutes, bear with me. This is the only show I will ever do where I get a little bit personal. When we were planning, I'm going to stand again. You guys are -- (applause) Enough.

Enough. Shout out the Lithuania, sure, by the way.

“We're planning all these live shows like where should we do them?”

And I said New York, I got to do New York, have to do it in New York. And the ringer, people are like, New York's tough. Like, there's a lot of stuff going out in New York. It's hard to get people in New York. There's a next game going on like, right there.

And I gently said, I don't think that's going to be much of a deterrent. I think we'll be good. (applause) Oh, stop. But I wanted to do New York, because this one is personal for me

on a couple of different levels.

I grew up in suburban Connecticut.

And it's my dad and my sister who are both here somewhere can attest to this. Growing up in the '90s, early '90s, as a teenager, I hated the next. And I feared, I didn't just hate New York City.

I feared New York City. I was like a little, like, wimpy suburban kid. I literally thought, like, you'd get off the train in Grand Central and someone would just stab you immediately. All I knew from the morning news was that Tom Consquare

Park seemed like Bay Route to me. Like, how could anyone-- and now, here we are. And I'm doing a live show in New York and I insisted on doing it. A couple of things changed.

Number one, I started covering the NBA for a job. Once you cover the NBA for a job, you kind of, like, Bill disagreed with me about this. But the fandom just kind of gets beaten out of you. The team you'd like, the team you don't like.

They're kind of just 30 companies competing against each other. People players change teams, people move around.

“And you have to be professional, sorry, Bill.”

You have to be unbiased, sorry, Bill. And so it just kind of gets beaten out of you. The other thing I learned covering the league, and I say this, I'm going for cheap applause, and I don't care because it's true.

The next fan base really might be the single best fan base in the NBA. [CHEERING] There is no fan base. I don't think there is any fan base that more deserves an NBA

championship than the next fans who have been waiting. Their entire life for an NBA championship. And I've been in almost every building in the NBA. There is nothing. Maybe Oracle, like, peak warriors.

That's it. There is nothing like Madison Square Garden during a crazy and next playoff game. And the other thing that changed for me, and why we're here, and I insisted we do a show in New York,

is that I moved to New York. And I lived in New York for almost 20 years. I met my wife in New York, Vesna is here somewhere. She is the rock of our house. She's the toughest, best person I know.

“And she not only, she's pushed me to be more daring”

at adventurous and every phase of my life. And part of that is like, if you're going to live in New York, you've got to live in New York. You've got to go everywhere. You've got to meet everyone.

You've got to get out of your comfort zone. And lo and behold, I lived there for 20 years. And it became my home. Now as you probably know, I'm a suburban loser, dad,

but I will always feel like, oh, New Yorker at heart.

And I had to, I got to give the commencement speech two years ago at the high school in Connecticut that I went to. And the whole speech was 11 minutes long. And it was really me sort of subtly-- maybe actually, too subtly, I was being too polite.

It was me sort of subtly saying to all of these kids, get out, get out of the suburbs, get out, go live in New York City where you'll meet people from all over the world. And people who speak every different language

in the world, they'll eat all the best food. You'll go, as said to them, there is nothing. Like being in your 20s in New York City and going to a bar unattached, who knows who you'll meet. Editors, musicians, writers, finance people.

Now my company, but it was cool to talk to them and learn about their life. The coolest, most highly accomplished people in the world, live in this city. So it's like a total highlight for me

to be in the greatest city in the world. It is still my home at heart. And thank you all for coming out. And my sappy thing is now over. [MUSIC PLAYING]

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It is time to say the three most anticipated words. [CHEERING] In niche, still niche, basketball, podcast thing. What up, back? [CHEERING]

How are we back? Holy fuck. This is a lot of people you invited, Zach. Hell yeah. What we're here to talk-- we're going to do now.

We're going to do a segment on the next, the New York mix.

And we'll touch on the next I promise.

We will have a small segment on the next.

“If someone wants to shout out the updates on the scores”

of the next Blazers game, to huge game, we're all paying great attention. OK, the New York mix, squeaked by the Warriors last night. They are 44 and 25. They have a very easy schedule the rest of the way.

All the nerdy odd systems give them like a 90% chance to be either being second or third in the East, which means probably playing the Celtics, which is a whole lot of fun, great Amtrakord or series. They are--

Boo the Celtics. Boo. For the record, I just said, you're allowed to boo the Celtics. Not that I would also boo the Celtics. The New York knickerbuckers are third and offense.

Sixth and defense. They are 19 and seven in their last 26 games. Since the Dallas Los, which I was at, which was rock bottom when they got boat raised by the maves, at home, there are only three teams in the top six

in both offense and defense. The Boston Celtics is fantastic.

I always forget just the hostility between New York

and Boston is delightful. The San Antonio spurs? No, why? Why? OK, fine.

And the New York Knicks, even the Thunder, are technically first in defense and seventh and offense, so they don't even qualify. And yet Howard Beck, there is much angst, despite all those nice things I just said about the next.

Steven A Smith today, Blame Jail and Brunson, for everything that's going wrong about the next. There seems to be-- there seems to be very little faith that a team I picked before the season to go to the finals

can actually get to the finals, despite the fact that the Troy, three and five in their last state games, the calves, four and five in their last nine games, the Celtics still reintegrating Tatum. Why is there this angst about the next right now?

I feel like we should be asking everybody here. There's one gauge I can use, Zach, that goes beyond all the advanced stats, all the per 100, all the tracking stats, everything else. There's one single gauge I can use as an experienced veteran

reporter who's been covering the next and then BA for a long time in the city, which is this. Last, was it last Tuesday? The next were down by something, 20 something to the jazz. They won that game.

But in the midst of that, I started seeing tweets and texts and blues guy posts, this guy, this guy, spokesperson for blues guy. I'll get you on, I'll get you back, there's one of these days. But suddenly, there, on blues guy, in fact,

something I had not seen in literally years. Maybe in, maybe pre-COVID, under the account of our buddy Alan Sepp and Walg, great TV critic, go buy all his books to try and do a sub-stack. A tank, a tank gift, a tank like I don't remember it was exploding

or going off a cliff or something. But Alan had kind of like a mothballed the tanking gifts, which he had used for many, many years of many, many bad next seasons. And suddenly there was again, I thought, oh, no, no, here we are.

It's this is not good, this isn't good.

“I'm worried more, I think, for Nick's fans”

that I am for the next themselves at this point. I don't think anything is fundamentally changed with them. I think they're in a little bit of a rut here. I thought their performance last night against the Santa Cruz Warriors, which is pretty depressing.

A little alarming. They did win, though, just as they did win that jazz game, that Sepp and Walg, revived the tank gift for. But I don't know, to your point of the context of all the other teams in the east that are contending

for those top spots, everybody's got their worth.

There's the standings up there.

“Yeah, that's right, we're going all out, people.”

You don't even have to look on your phones. You can look at the standings right here. Look at Cade Cunningham, Cade Cunningham's, like, bring it on, like-- (audience laughing)

- James towering over him. It doesn't just seem like it's just a little too hard for the next, like it's just like things are just a little too difficult. Like, my kill bridges right now, massive slum. I don't need to tell you what they traded for him.

Even a massive slum to the point that Mike Brown is asking questions about are you going to change the starting five. Josh Hart, it's like, one night, it feels like they've solved the problem of teams put their big man on Josh Hart

and just have them row around. And then another night, it clogs up their entire offense. Cat, cats and experience. You guys now have lived it for a couple years. It's a whole experience.

Mitchell Robinson is he going to stay healthy. Jose Alvarado came in like a meteor and it's kind of peatered out a little bit. He's got good chemistry with cat. He unlocks cat a little bit.

That's peatering out. And even like third and offense,

“you watch some of their possessions on a good night”

when they really score. And it just feels like it's on a knife's edge, the entire possession. Like that guy almost cut into that guy. I'm not sure Josh Hart really has a plan

and there's four people around him. And somehow they escape it and everything works out well. And the defense we all know, right? Teams are going to hunt, brunch, and teams are going to hunt cat.

The next know that their defense has been very good since he all started break. Many less shots at the rim. Many fewer shots at the rim. My dad is a grammarian and they tweak the scheme and all that.

But like there's just, there's just a lot.

But here's what I'm here to say.

Like there's like it's all so angsty. There's no reason why they can't make the finals. Like tell me what do you look at the standings. Tell me the reason why they can't make the finals. Go through the teams.

The pistons can they score enough points in the playoffs with their lack of shooting. Maybe their defense is also in their toughest shit. Maybe the Celtics I will grant you. Feel like the most.

The Celtics feel like the most together team of these top four teams like the team that knows most who they are and what they want to be and how they want to play. They have an incredible starting five now that Tatum is back. But like Tatum is four games into coming back

from a catastrophic injury 10 months ago. I kind of wanted to see it a little bit longer before I'm like no brainer there. They were a crowned favorites in the East. One game into Tatum's comeback.

All the talking points was, oh, they're a fairies of these. Maybe Cleveland. They're really good. They have a lot of talent.

Somebody's always injured.

I'm not sure if you guys are aware of this. James Harden has struggled in a lot of big playoff games. Like like really, really, I don't want. I've made too much fun in him in the past for the playoff games. So like why not the next?

Tell me why. I don't have an answer for why not the next. Because if you told me, throw all four of those in a hat and we just pulled teams out, any two of them, you could believe. And you could make a case for any of them.

You could make a easy case against any of them. I do think there's a case for where the Celtics being the on paper favorites right now. There's a certain amount of championship equity and identity there. I was talking to somebody today with another team.

It was just saying this and man. Like, look at what they did without Tatum. They have a system. They know who they are, they know what they do. You toss out, hoorford, imporzingous, and cornet, and drough holiday.

And you plug these guys in and they just keep fucking going. And like, people around the league are just so impressed with what they've done there. Think they would have let Luke cornet go if they knew he could galvanize people like this as a political leader.

I mean, he's so much more powerful than anyone ever realized.

“I think this is the lesson we've learned this NBA season.”

But they're the only team you could point to and say, like, if you said they were the definite Eastern, we've seen the future. It's a Celtic you'd go, okay. Yeah, I get it. I can't make a real argument for why they wouldn't.

The others, the next included, the calves, the pistons, like, there's a lot of we need to see it first. And yeah, but you picked the next preseason to make the finals and you have stuck for that. That's right, man. You have, you did I do that at least a little bit to manifest finals home games for me. Maybe maybe maybe I did or like, I root for my own convenience.

Maybe you knew that you were going to have a live show and you wanted to be able to preemptively pander to the crowd. Yeah. Sure. Also the East sucked then and still is like, it's less sucky now, but it's still the East.

It's still the East. I think the thing that we've been saying all the season about the East being wide open, I think we just mean that like, there's a case to me made. It's not that there's a bunch of crappy teams, although there's only four really, truly good ones, but there's, there's enough of a case to be made for any of you.

So no brainer, they should win at the first round, obviously, whether it's look at all the teams there. Raptors, he 76ers. Magic could be a little frisky, but I, you know, right now they're fifth.

That could be a coin flip, who has home court advantage, commander of a nice safe home court. In seven, losing there is not a disaster, but that every series in the East is winnable for them. It just feels like, even, I will say, even on their good nights, it feels a little bit more difficult than it should.

And if you look at their losses, I mentioned 19 and seven since the Dallas game. It's Detroit twice, and let's be honest, like Detroit just punk you guys, just punk the next twice, true, punk them. Both the LA teams, those are allow losses, Cleveland, and Oklahoma City. They have two really good wins in that stretch.

They blitz the spurs, awesome win, Josh Hart's best game of the season, I thought. And then the miracle come back against Houston when Houston just took a dump on the court in the entire fourth quarter, like not great wins, but I just, and look, if they don't make the finals this year, all, all cards other than Brunson being traded is on the table for the summer.

When we know who the big names are, we've said the guys name it, starts with the G a thousand times this year.

“But I think people are a little too low on the Dix, I, I don't know who I would pick”

to make the finals out of these four teams right now, but my confidence level and then Dix is like about where it was at the before the season. The back-to-back LA losses, for in particular, like, don't bother me in the sense that, like, it's the end of a road trip, it's LA, you had two games in LA and multiple days in LA, this is the kind of thing where NBA teams will often like, oh, we've got a bunch of days

in a city that everybody loves, bring your wives and your girlfriends and whatever, bring your families, like, there's a pretty good chance that, like, everybody was just, like, deciding this is where we're going to have the time, and it's, it's also March, it's late in the season. Now, this bridges thing, it's kind of a little, it's kind of a little ugly, and Dix

are always going to hang around his neck a little bit with the fans.

I think he'll be fine. I don't think Mike Brown should entertain changing the starting five to you. No.

“I think you stick with it, and they have, the guy who's really changed their team a lot”

this year, it's Landry Shamit, like, he comes in off the bench, and they, and they plug him in for, like, all right, do we need all the, do we need max shooting, Josh, you're sitting in the fourth quarter, Landry, you go in and do, like, the doosmic bride thing, like, doosmic still come back. Doos, doos was having an unbelievable year before I got it, yeah, that's one of my favorite

next things is the doos chant, and then, or lately, they've been closing games with Shamit over bridges, and, like, Shamit's been awesome competing on defense, making shots, he's been legit really good for them. Clarkson has been, like, unmothballed, recently, so I don't know, we'll see, but I'm, I'm, still, I, I wouldn't, like, pick any of these teams over the next without, without, at least

thinkin' real hard about it. No, I wouldn't either, um, I do think if I'm looking at those four teams, and I'm now thinking with the lens of, like, who needs to make the finals the most of this stage, it might actually be the next, right?

You had the owner go on radio a month ago and say, like, it's basically finals or bus,

championship or bus, the Celtics just got taken back, like, everything is just, like, a bonus for the Celtics, and they're already championship, crowned, the pistons are young and still on the way up. They were not even supposed to be leading the East, uh, the Cavs are not a Cavs.

“If you ask me, point blank, like, who's the best basketball team of those four?”

I think I might say Boston, but I will say, Tatum is like, it's, we got to see it, and the next were on the way to beating Boston last year, before Tatum got injured at the end of game four. The next were going to up three one, those two, those two wins in Boston where they walked the Celtics down methodically in the both fourth quarters, those were, like, awesome legit

for as, like, weirdly off-kilter as they can look sometimes, these guys have shown up in a

lot of big moments and a lot of big games in their brief time, it's only cat second season

with the team. Those were, like, legit tier one road playoff wins. Do you guys think, um, to Howard's point, would you guys like James Dawn to do more interviews, do you think that's good for the team? All right, that kid, so it nicks, look, nicks, I think we're fine.

Now that we've come to the Brooklyn Nets segment of the podcast, oh my God, that was a much louder cheer than I expected, this, that might be more enthusiasm that they're actually cheering at your arena right now down the street. Why are you guys here, they're playing the blazers? 4430, who? I'm going to just scoot have, scoot, all your guys in scootstock, I'm sure the Nets are just

there biting their time to put their best players back in the game, um, okay, I gave Howard into Simon and I did the assignment too. This is, this is going to be the sum total, maybe not quite, but almost the sum total of our Brooklyn Nets content. One word, no elaboration, there's an explanation, one word to describe each of the Nets five first round picks from

even know the draft, we're not, but I'm going to try and you guys can correct me if I'm

“wrong. Yegor, German, German, German. No, okay. I watched him say it on YouTube, he's”

been saying it for ways. Okay, one word, uh, intriguing. I went with accurate, no, and try, French. Oh, that, I went fast, fast, Drake Powell, bold. I went beast, he's a beast. Athletically, that dude's a beast, Danny Wolf, oh my, unbelievable, promising. I went, I went, you're like, as I like this, this is the most nuts fans I've ever seen in one place. I went with

daring. Bensoroth, crafty. I went with a similar, a synonym for crafty, left-handed. Bensoroth.

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“Now we have something fun and story for you. We're going to bring out a grant land original,”

a ringer, Spotify, mainstay, and we're going to do a draft. We're going to try and keep it quick. But the conceded a draft is this. The wildest, craziest, most bonkers moments in the history of the next franchise since 1990. David Jacobi! Let's go! Let's go! Oh, sack low! Oh, so excited about this. We're going to try and keep it moving. We have 15 total picks, snake draft, just crazy. Crazy community. It could mean exhilarating as

a next fan. It could be miserable. It could just be in holy shit. What was that? It could be in anything you want, totally open ended, because I am a nice person. I gave David Jacobi

the first pick in the draft. First of all, that's a lie. He is not a nice person. I know

very well. Number two, is there a winner? We can do some sort of hand count or shrieking I win. I win. It's 2012. February 10th. Number one nationally televised game. It is a next game, and he's said it against the Los Angeles Lakers. Before the game, Kobe Bean Bryant was asked about Jeremy Lynn and he said, I don't know who he is, who is this kid? They start the game. Next jump out early. Time out in the first quarter. Jeremy

Lynn's got two quick buckets. And then, this is one of my fair parts of the story. They do an interview, he's coming later. They do an interview with the coach of the Lakers who scouted Jeremy Lynn. And he says, we made a mistake. We even under the screen. And they

fallence. So, Jeremylyn had an open elbow jumper. The coach who was in charge of scouting Jeremy Lynn was Mike Brown. I don't think I knew that. They didn't interview with him. And he was a charge of scouting Jeremy Lynn. Jeremylyn went on to score 38 points to beat that guy. The Los Angeles Lakers. And this is not the end of the Lindsay. This is the peak of the Lindsay. You will hear more of the Lindsay from my colleague Howard later.

Zach, your next. I'm not next, but Matt Barnes is not happy. Oh, no, he caught some buckets. Oh, no, I did. Marvin Hamm, Darwin Hamm is like, in preparation for this show, I watched the stupid game. Matt Barnes caught some buckets. He caught a couple of those buckets.

Oh, oh, Derek Fisher. It's not. I thought it was Jeremy Lynn, Chris Kobe. It's basically

“Jeremy Lynn cooking Matt Barnes and Derek Fisher. Derek Fisher. The only thing I was saying about”

Lindsay, I'll say it now, so you can make your pick free and clear. I think it's the proper number one pick. I think it's one of the three craziest sports stories of our entire lifetime. I don't think there'll ever be anything like it. And forgive me, if you've heard me tell this story of my podcast before, that was the year after the lockout. Remember the lockout when we were together all the time at the stupid hotel for the stupid lockout.

Um, so the season started late. I think or something. There was some reason why my way couldn't I took a vacation in December or winter. January, February, February, 2012. We went to Saint John. Don't know when your wife took a vacation. I don't know why you're looking at me. Well, just bear with me. Um, the night before we left was his game

against the nets, like the first lin game 25. And I look at the box score. I'm like, it's

pretty weird. Like Jeremy Lynn, okay. Then we go to Saint John for five days. I missed all of Lynn's sanity. Like, I would wake up. I would wake up every morning and check the box score and be like, this motherfucker did it again. And by Harvard, by day three, I wasn't even having fun anymore. I was like, we need to get out of here. Jeremy, did the greatest sickness ever happen in New York City, sports is happening. And I'm not there.

I'm in a freaking beach in Saint John Howard back. Number two pick. Howard. Um, so we did not coordinate exactly well with all this, but we did a discover. We both have there was a text thread. There was a text thread. Um, we could have possibly spaced these out better. Um, my number one pick was also insanity, but not versus the lakers. It was simply the beginning of it all. At this time, I was covering the next for the New York Times. And I'd been on that beat for a

good eight or so years of times. One years. Yeah. Um, there was a lot of like, uh, Jerome James and Jared Jeffries and Eddie Curry and you want to name some guys? Name some more guys. We could we could name Curry had the hot dog, the hot dog thing back here. We could name a lot of guys. Uh, we could not name a lot of highlights. And so the reason I had to go with this is number one, even after realizing that Mr. Jacobi was going to go with the Lynn Sandy versus the Lakers one, was that

“the very beginning of this. If you go back, you know, eight days, I think before the game that he picked”

against the nets, when Jeremy Lin is lighting up Darren Williams established all star Darren Williams, franchise savior of the then New Jersey nets Darren Williams. Um, and Jeremy Lin lights him in the rest of the nets. And this is the reason the beginning is the part that matters is with all to respect to the one against the Lakers. And when he showed up dirt Novitsky a few days later, when he showed up the Raptors and hit the game, winning three at the buzzer and everything else,

is that the beginning was the most unfucking canny thing you ever saw before in your life in the first place, because to this point, as you may or may not recall, the next had a point card problem. They didn't really have one. Uh, Tony Douglas, you want to play point card? Oh, oh, Tony Douglas can only go left and right. He can't really go downhill. He gets over here and then he can't like turn. He just, these, he can't go. Uh, Mike Bibi, 33 years old, uh, can, can you do something?

Were they're waiting for Baron Davis to recover from his back injury? Um, they have, Emon Schumpert was the point guard for a while. And it's only out of desperation that Mike

“Dentone finally turns to Jeremy Lin who the only thing we knew about Jeremy at the time that he”

got to the next was there was a press release right before we left on this like long road trip around Christmas that said, Nick's have signed Jeremy Lin the guy who just got cut by the warriors and rockets. Uh, and that was it. And then this thing happened. And as soon as this thing happened,

and we went, wow, guys, that's amazing. We just saw the most incredible fucking thing we've

ever seen in this span of next history, what a night that was. And you thought, okay, that was cool.

I think it was Washington, and then he does it again. And then again, and again, and for three weeks, and friends of mine in here in Brooklyn, who were not even Nick's fans or casual fans, were suddenly like on, but everybody suddenly had a Nick in sanity or a Jeremy Lin jersey in

“next jersey. The whole city as you guys, I'm sure remember, the whole city was was just freaking out”

head over heels. It was the most magical surreal thing I have covered in nearly 30 years of covering the NBA. It was awesome. The great pick. You guys took lancidity from it. It's great pick. By the way, the only unfortunate footnote was that toward the end of that first night against the nets when somebody had game ops at the garden decided to click Pearl Jam's Jeremy, not realizing

exactly what that song is. Oh, the the game winner over Jose Calderon will always be one of the

highlights to be in Toronto, where it's like, yeah, of course we're clearing out and giving the ball to Jeremy Lin, and of course he's going to talk all sorts of junk in Jose Calderon's face. All right, I have picked three and four. I regret to tell everyone in the audience, I went chalk and chalk means pretty much basketball tragedy for the next. So my first pick number three is Tyreys Hallebert and shot. Whoa. Two suits. I'll keep it brief. Two suits. I'll keep it brief.

And I promise you, I'm going to say one thing that you like, I can do this job for 30 more years. I will never ever, ever see a crazier game. No game has ever gone from people stopped paying attention to holy shit. What the fuck is happening to? Are they going to win the game? Like by Aaron Neesmith's fourth three. Aaron Neesmith is one who gets lost in the Hallebert's stuff. Aaron Neesmith had a complete out-of-body experience. I don't even know what happened. I don't

think he knows what happened. I don't think anyone knows what happened. He made five, three, and two, and a half minutes, and they were all in sync. By the fourth one, my computer was

“unplugged, and I was ready to go down, and I was still on press row just because I believe”

and the you never know all the way until the end factor. But I admittedly kind of stopped

paying attention to the game. And then it was like, it's like if a robber was in your house, you had to go from a sleep to eating with a baseball bat instantaneously, that was the attention switch that you had to go on when Aaron Neesmith started making shots. And the Hallebert in shot is absolutely bonkers. You saw it go in and come down. And the one thing I was saying is the game goes over a million other crazy things happened. The next almost turned the

ball over. I'm like in bounce plays two times like wild bounces and crazy stuff. There's some misfree throws. Then it goes to overtime. And I will never ever forget as long as I live the next or up for an overtime to get a turn over. Jalen runs and streaks out for a layup. And Miles Turner pins it on the glass. And I screamed from my seat, golden. And I swear to God, I watched it 50 times since. I still don't know whether it was a gold tender night. And I can tell you for sure,

the NBA has watched it a million times. And they don't know if it was a gold tender night.

Imagine if that gets called. If that gets called a gold ten, the nicks are up six. I bet they win the game. It's a great for you. The rules that glow. It was a gold ten. I thought it was. I thought it was ten. And if it were called a gold ten, I don't think there could have been conclusive evidence or whatever you need in the NBA's endless replay system to overturn it. Okay. My second pick near the fourth pick. I'm going a 1998

brawl heat nicks, Jeff Van Gondy, grabbing Alonzo morning's leg. Look at that! So first of all, Zoe and Larry Johnson throw the most hilarious series of heymakers at each other. I mean, if any of those punches at hit, someone could have died. And they all, they all missed by like three feet. If we had a fight right now, we were like, let's try purposely to not hit each other. We couldn't do any better than they did.

Second of all, about 40 seconds after this, if you watch the clip, everyone gets separated in Van Gondy is walking around. Like pointing, pointing, it's Zoe. Just pointing at people. And he pauses at one point to grab a straight piece of hair that's flying like a whisp of cotton candy above his head and like place it back down on top of his head. And it's like Jeff Van Gondy

“had the wear with all to be like, I think my hair is not looking, it's not looking great right now.”

And this just the nicks ended up winning this series as they did in 1999 against the heat and in 2000 against the heat. They played four years in a row. The heat were three and one. Obviously, we know Riley left New York to go to Miami. The first one, the heat one,

Charlie Ward tried to box up, PJ Brown and PJ Brown super lex them. Everybody on the nicks left the bench. They all got suspended for games five and six. So the heat got this like, let's be honest, charity undeserved playoff series win right in 1997. And the only reason the thing about coming off the bench was even a rule was because of the nicks in 1993, the sons and the nicks got into a brawl involving Kevin Johnson and Glenn Dock Rivers.

And Greg Anthony then on the nicks came running off the bench to cheap shot KJ and if you google it, we're in the ugliest button down shirt. Anyone has ever worn. They changed the rules because of Greg Anthony and four years later it came back to bite the nicks. So those are my two picks, big three and four. You go to baby phenomenal. By the way, is that Michael Malone's father

“Brendan Malone there at the farmhouse? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. For Sean Leonard, Tim Hardaway.”

No, you have the next pick out. Do you have the next pick out? Because we are snaking this. So when Zach gave us this assignment, I was thinking of things that if these are crazy,

what's wild and what's what? It's got to be something like I have never seen before and might

never see again. Some positive like linsanity and then some like this, where I'm covering a playoff game. This is now April of 2012. So same season as linsanity. And the novelty of that has all worn off and out. It's back to just what can the nicks do with this triumvirate of Carmelo Anthony, Amari Stoutemire and Tyson Chandler. But lo and behold, they are in the playoffs now in a first round series against the hated heatals of Lebron and Wade and Bosch. And this is going about the way

we expect and they have now lost game to in Miami. And we're waiting outside the locker room and we've been waiting a lot longer than is normally necessary after a playoff game. Some things are right. Something is a miss. And so I'm just lingering there now in hallways. We keep getting pushed further and further away by security. And we're trying to clear us for something for some

reason we don't know. And so I'm finally in like closer to where the loading dock area is and finally

seeing Amari Stoutemire walk through his arm in a sling. But it's not because his arm or his shoulder or anything else. And it's not an injury that happened the game. It's because he punched the glass of a fire extinguisher. It looks great right there though. In frustration and has sliced open his hand. Think that he could have grown a third hand and the nicks were not going to win that series. Yeah. I mean, he could have brought the fire extinguisher on the court and sprayed it in the

bronze face and they wouldn't have won the series probably. But I had to go back and look. I was like, why was he particularly frustrated then? I mean, oh, two to the heat is kind of expected. But

“he had only taken, I think like nine shots in that game. And you know, was was not particularly”

effective. Carmelo had gone 12 for 26 for 30 points. I don't know if it was that. There was definitely a Carmelo a Murray thing back then that was kind of unspoken. And there was just a very long period of silence of nobody saying anything. We don't know what he said. Yeah, there's an injury.

There's us. There's a thing. There's something. It's with the nicks. It's always like, yeah,

there's a it's an arm. Just call it an arm. We'll get back to you tomorrow. But that was it. Like the the only time I've ever seen somebody basically injure themselves non-game related that possibly hurt them within the playoffs series that they were, yes, going to lose anyway, which they did lose in five. But still, a Murray self-inflicted wound, which did knock him out for game three. That's got to be. There have been other since then.

Was it Jada McDaniels or Nasri that punched a wall? I think McDaniels. I think McDaniels. And of course LeBron punched the whiteboard. Margaret Mark, Margaret Mark punched the frame.

“I don't think in a playoff show. I think specifically. Yeah. Sorry. I know we're doing playoff exclusive”

punching glass. Thanks. I'm sorry. Yeah. All right. You have you have back to back picks. Okay. Tonight, I just want to have a moment of silence for canceling magic city night in Atlanta. It's important. To support silence. Now, some might think they loot coordinates. Substack is what canceled magic city,

but the truth of the matter is, the NBA looked at the calendar and said, "We can't go up against Zach Lowe show live show in Brooklyn New York." A lot of similar we ever try to compete with that. A lot of similarities, overlapping crowds. And it was supposed to be tonight, but it's not. And then it got me thinking, later second, we're doing moments in Nick's history. I do happen remember, or God. The Nick's being caught up in Atlanta strip club

situation once upon a time. Maybe some of the younger people in the audience won't remember the gold club investigation. This is a great Google deep dive for the youngsters at the

Bill Simmons. He has him up his alley. Literally, this guy, our boss has a idiots guide to the

“gold club investigation. And it is the first hit on Google. I'm not going to tell you all about this,”

but I will say that before Nick's involved and just walk with me through this. Allegedly, there were some owners of a strip club in Atlanta that had some mafia ties. And they were charged by prosecutors for all the mafia shit that you think that someone who owned a strip club would be get charged for. Four next year involved, Larry Johnson, allegedly something happened in the club.

Okay, John Starks, allegedly something happened in club. Patrick Ewing took the stand.

The stand. He took this. And said that he received, why? All things. Not once, but twice inside the club, took the stand and had to say that. However, the fourth Nick involved is apparently allegedly the owners of the gold club sent girls to the Pacers Hotel room. And they knocked on one Pacer's door. Would you like something? And the Pacer said, "No, thank you. I'm Christian. I'm married." I'm paraphrasing.

That former Nick and Pacer at the time, Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson, ladies and gentlemen. Hand down.

I get another pick. I would like you to go ahead and make your next thing. A lot of energy. I just have a lot of energy. That's a lot of energy. By the way, Bill's the fourth. Yeah, Bill just texted me and he was like, "Stop." Yeah. The 1993 Eastern Conference Finals, the Nick's win game won against the bulls. Michael Jordan's both. Came to 50 seconds left. John Starks has the ball on the right side in the garden. Imagine a two-old lead against the bulls in the Eastern

Conference Finals. You can smell the Larry O'Brien trope. Patrick Ewing sets a screen on the left side. John Starks has seen this play before and he sees BJ Armstrong reading this screen and watch it again after tonight. John Starks does that. I think I'm going to go that way. No, I'm not BJ Armstrong. I'm going to go this way. Clears him. Maybe Patrick Ewing pushed him on the ground.

“I don't know. You have to see the tape. It's up for review. John Starks goes in the air,”

helped a fender. Gentlemen, by the name of Horace. Chumps in the air to guard the rim. John Starks jumps off of both feet. It takes his left hand and wants to dunk the basketball. That would be great because it's a three-point game with 45 seconds left. That would put the nicks up to Owen the series. But what really makes this play special is Michael Jeffrey Jordan seeing it happen and he's not even in position to defend the play. But he runs over because he's

the goat and he's like, fuck, we're about to lose. What can I do? And he is just a bystander. Let's be honest. He has no chance of blocking the shot. But if you look at the photo, it looks like he really has a chance of blocking the shot. And John Starks have one of the best dunks, one of the best moments in Masses Square Garden history. There's been documentaries about it. And then the nicks take a two-o series lead and they sweep the bullies. And they win the championship and that's exactly how I

“remember it. And you can't tell me any different, right? Sounds right. Do we have a fact checker here?”

Sounds right. They win. I will have more on that series later. The 90s won, right? The 90s were a blur. That's phenomenal. I cannot possibly do a set up or execution as great as that Jacobi. I'm just I'm just like you've already won the draft at this point. There was the strippers. I got heat, I got heat coming. I got heat coming back. All right. Yeah, that's the real coolest thing, dude. All right. So fast forward. It's now the mid 2000s. And the nicks are built

around a lot of players who might do some fun interesting things at times, who will maybe do

memorable. But certain things still stand out to me because there were moments where it's still like

“I can't believe I saw that. November 20th, 2006. I've at this point seen Yoming play in person”

a few times, initially when I was still covering the lake. And the first time I ever saw Yoming

was Yoming again, shack. The first person I've ever seen makes shack look human-sized. He was a full head taller than him. And by that I mean like literally when he was standing behind him, guarding him, Yau's entire head was visible above shack's head, which was very far above mine. He blocked him three times that night. Like Yau just ate up shack. It was the most humiliated I've ever seen shack. But now it's 2006 and I'm covering the nicks. And the nicks and rockets are playing a game

at Madison Square Garden. And it's the far end of the court. And I still don't know that I saw what I saw, but I've seen it on YouTube so this actually happened. But Nate Robinson, who you may recall, "This is a good setup." Is listed at five nine? I'm listed at six feet on my driver's license, but I mean, I towered over Nate. Nate could jump as you may recall. One of you don't contest as you may recall. Took maybe a few too many attempts. Okay, so Nate Robinson fucking blocked Yau

Ming. That's a great setup and great execution. Holy shit. Holy fucking shit. I still don't believe this happened even though I saw it live. I've seen it since and there's a photo right there of it happening. The funny thing about this is they both they come down and Yau immediately

“like, it leans over and he's hands on his face because I think like Nate raked him. I think he's”

raking him as we see it right there. Got the ball first. Got the ball first. And I'm thinking, wow,

this is this is absolutely incredible. Now the rockets won the game, but who fucking cares?

Yau after the game, quote, "I've been blocked by a five three guy before, so that's not a record." What? I real? Yes. I don't know who blocked me because my eye was already closed. Okay, Yau. Nate Robinson got you dude. I'm sorry, but it's a great deep cut. I forgot about that. You know what? You're a dick for being like, I know those great execution and great setup. I don't know how I could do that and then nailing it. Thank you, David. You're not even

I have two straight picks now. We're gonna try to be quick here. You're not going to believe the heat that they left me with. I mean, this should be what I'm about to pick with whatever pick in the draft. This is nine or ten or something. It should be the number one pick. It shouldn't even

“be close. Maybe Lincen is the only thing he can compete. The OJ Simpson game in the 1994 NBA”

Finals. Indistutably the wildest thing that has happened in the NBA Finals in the history of the NBA. Game five, not game one, not game two, game five of a two two series. Micro Jordan swing baseball. There's a void that either the rockets with a Kimalazuan or the long still even then long suffering New York nicks are going to fill the championship boy. This is the pivotal game into series. It's in New York. It's a must win. And OJ Simpson is on the run during the game.

And I actually rewatched part of this game on YouTube because I was like, I kind of remember, I remember to split screen. They want split screen except the Bronco is like 80% of the TV and the audio. And the game is like down here. There were a couple of times where they just cut from the game altogether and just went into like talking about OJ. And it's like, if your humor is dark, this is very darkly humorous stuff because it'll be like Chuck Scarborough, NBC News anchor

at the time talking to like a dude and a helicopter. And the guy, I mean, this is almost exactly what happened. The guy will be like, yeah, Chuck, I can't confirm that OJ has the gun pointed at his head right. I can't confirm. I cannot confirm that that the gun is pointed at his head. And then Chuck Scarborough will be like, well, that's it from the scene. Back to Mar Valbert and game five of the NBA fights. And Mar will be like, and there was a point where Mar, three of these into the game,

Mar finally cracked. And he was like, it's a hard transition to make from what's unfolding in

Brentwood, California to hear at the NBA Finals. A couple other tidbits from this, which I had forgotten about more. Oh, there's more Jeff Van Gundy during the 2016 finals between the Cavs and the Warriors on the broadcast this game came up. And Van Gundy tells this story that

that summer and out cowlings, according to Jeff Van Gundy and God knows I didn't bother Jeff

“with fact check in the story. He told it on National TV, out cowlings told Pat Riley, hey,”

you want to know why we were going so slowly. OJ was listening to the game. Game on the radio. Game on the radio. He wanted to be, he wanted to get to the end of the game. This happened. The other thing that happened, which I had forgotten about was security was Lucer at NBA games and apparently a drunk fan from like the Delta Club area and MSG got into Riley's press conference after the game. The mix of just one game five of the finals are up three

two about to maybe win an NBA championship. I'm not sure what happened after that. And the fan, the fan drunk fan is like, Pat, Pat, back here. If OJ had cut left instead of right, do you think he would have gotten away with it? And Pat Riley was like, what does everything right up? This is all, these are all things that happened in the 1990s. They're Lord and Savior Charles Oakley. That was not a drunk fan. And on a less, on a more personal note, this crowd is too

young. 1994 was when against every part of my soul. My hatred of the mix began to wither away a little bit and thought because 1994 was such an awesome time in New York City and anywhere around New York City specifically April, May and June when the mix were on the way to the finals and the Rangers were on the way to win the Stanley Cup. I went to a giant high school in Connecticut, 2000 people. So passing time was like just a mob scene to people running around and in passing

time, these random kids from Connecticut, the whole center of the school is a big common area, would erupt in. Let's go next. Let's go Rangers. It was like, this is the coolest thing in the world that sports is this omnipresence. So that is a special time for me and also the mix in the

Houston Rockets. By second pick, my next pick, I told you I went shock and I'll just keep this one

quick. This draft is not complete without eight points in nine seconds by Reggie Miller. It's not complete. It's odd. And the crazy, do you want to, so everybody knows he scored eight points at nine seconds to steal game one in the 1995 Eastern Conference of my finals from the next. The, the page was gone to win in seven games, you and Mrs. a game tying a layup in game seven at the buzzer, one of the most painful moments in the history. But this, this eight points at nine seconds,

it's a three. Let's, let's be honest, shoves growing Anthony to the ground, foul, not called,

“foul, gets to ball, makes another three. It's really six points in five point three seconds. I think”

he scored six points and he ties the game. Then the crazy stuff actually happens after that. Sam Mitchell, who played for the Pacers, intentionally fouled John Starks in a tie game with like 13 seconds left. And it minute years later, he forgot what the score was and thought that the Pacers had to fail. It's literally the JR Smith blender, but 25 years before, 22 years before. John Starks misses two free throws that they have been given to the next leg charity.

Ewing rebounds the second miss with like eight seconds left. The next can hold for the last shot.

He tries this like falling down jumper from seven feet, misses. Reggie Miller gets three bound and John Starks fouls Reggie Miller in like a scrum who then hits two free throws. Greg Anthony brings the ball up and falls over the game ends. Everything after Reggie Miller's second three pointer is even crazier than the two three pointers that led up to it. Okay. I told you I'd be. Thanks for that, Zach. Appreciate that. Yeah, thank you so much.

Yeah. It's my side. It's eight points, nine seconds. Phenomenal stuff. So there was a point here where I was trying to in preparation for this like, okay, there's all these crazy things that happened during the Isaiah era, right? There's like there's lawsuits and there's all these blockbuster trades and there's terrible signings and there's Larry Brown and there's all this and I'm trying to think like, how do I sum this up in one

thing? Is there one moment? There's not. So I just picked the entire Isaiah Thomas era as as this one. But that's deserves. Steven needs elaboration. What's that? I don't think it even needs elaboration. It probably doesn't. I want to say I will just say like the pinnacle of it was this. Larry Brown gets hired in 2005 last one season after which he is fired and then there's

“a lawsuit. Larry Brown versus the garden, the garden versus Larry Brown. I don't remember who sued”

or counter sued. But this season alone, they bring in Steve Francis to play alongside Marbury because Larry kind of believed that Steve Francis could like marginalize Marbury because Larry

didn't like Larry but Larry Marbury also didn't like Isaiah. Basically the GM and the coach and the

“franchise point guard all hated each other and any two of the three at any given time wanted to”

kill each other. So yeah, that pretty much sums it up when we can move on Jacobi. Okay. There's a place uptown called the kingdom where our Friday nights there would place summer basketball outside in the park and I used to go there. I was kind of scared. It's in Harlem and there was a gentleman playing basketball there and the guy in the mic. I did think that the chicken of a soup song they call him the eighth grader. They're the eighth

grader. The eighth grader and I was watching this kid and he was playing against homicide. Alright Pete. And he's pushing homicide around and he was the eighth grader and then he won the PSAL in ninth grade, tenth grade, 11th grade and 12th grade for the Lincoln rail splitters. And he's Lance Stevenson. The nicks have the 39th pick in the 2010 draft. It lances on the board. I don't even think it's the commissioner at this point and they're like and with the 39th pick,

the nicks select. When degree fields. Who later let Jeremy Lynn sleep on his couch. Come on. Be nice. And then with the 40th pick, the pace of selects. I forgot it was back to back like that. Broke my heart. Broke my heart.

“Why, why would you not pick the hometown kid that won the ninth and 10th and 11th?”

It's what the first to ever sweep it. Why not? Is this worse than Frederick Bicever run our test? I kind of like Frederick Bicever. That's the greatest dunk of all time. By the way, the dunk of death. They called it the dunk of death. That's the greatest dunk of all time. No dunk all over top that. And then finally with my last pick, a year ago, kind of today, St. Patrick's Day. You're of our Lord. Not to bring a legitimate to it. 2025.

I'm listening on the radio because I hope is no one here that works for the Gotham Sports App. I hate the Gotham Sports App. I hate the Gotham Sports App with the force of a thousand hurricanes. I'm trying to watch the next game. It's like, oh, it's the fourth quarter. A cool. I've got four minutes to wait to sign in to fucking, oh, don't get me started. So I listen on the NBA app on the radio function because I want to hear what's happening during the game. And they say, sorry, there's a

break in the action. Someone has vomited on the floor. It's St. Patrick's Day. The first thing that came to my mind, Zach, what is it? I mean, you go a lot of deflections. I don't know. Tracy Morgan.

You'll never guess who it was. It was a long delay, too, right? It was a while. Yeah,

clean it up. No, I do want to say this in his defense. He has been sober for years. And he said that he had food poisoning, but it was just so classic Nick's game that Tracy Morgan pukes on the floor and they stopped the proceedings forever, just like we should because I've won the draft. So one of my rule changes, that's a great pick. One of my rule changes, we're all, we're all concerned about speeding up the game. The game takes too long. If you sit,

“courtside, and you spill your drink on the floor during the game, you should have to come to”

send, oh, you should have to come to center court while they clean it up and answer a series of interrogatory questions about your life. What's wrong in your life? This is great. How many drinks you've had to this point? This is fantastic. Are you ashamed that you are single-handedly delaying the game that you came to? How about this at low show? How about this? Can you name, can you name four players participating? I love this. This should be standard. That's a rule, right? This should

it. Oh, expansion teams and you can't name four players, you're ejected publicly from the game at that moment. I think this is the best idea you've ever had. It might be, actually.

You should trademark that. I haven't had a lot of good ideas. How are back? How did this never

Speaking of drunk, speaking of intoxication. This is a great segue. February 8th, 2017 and

somebody had to do this. I was at a net's wizard's game down the road here at Barclay Center. Oh my god. Wait, net's wizard's game gets a plus? I think it's halftime. It's somebody comes in like

“dude. You pick the wrong game tonight. You should have been to the other place. And then I pulled up”

Twitter or whatever it was at the time. And someone had just been ejected a fan from the game. There was a statement afterward. There was a statement about this person about how the garden said this person came to the game tonight, behaved in a highly inappropriate abusive manner. He was a great

nick and we hope he gets some help soon. Classic statement by the garden after ejecting

Charles fucking Oakley. I'm sorry we have to hand on a down note of my last pick, but we could not end this. I want to publicly apologize for my final pick. I won money from my stupid teenage friends partly because of the events that transpired in this pick. You mentioned the John Stark's

“dunk earlier. 1993. That was it. That was the year. That was the year that Nick's actually could”

have beaten Jordan. That was the team. That was the year they won two games up to. As you mentioned, bulls no surprise come back to Chicago tie the game tied the series at two and game five happens and just the series of unfortunate events for Charles Smith. Just just the worst. The worst. Look, you can vote. You can say that I lost the draft if you want. I'm just saying he got blocked four times in a row four times in like three seconds and they're legit. It's Horace Grant,

Michael Jordan, Pippin, Pippin. Four times in six seconds. And then the game just ends. The bulls get to loose ball and run down the court and beat you. Armstrong makes a layup and the game is just over and you're like, wait, what just happened? The game ended. Charles Smith got blocked four times and I had bet all my stupid high school friends, Pippin and none of them here. I had bet a bunch of them that the bulls would win the series when the Nick's were up to. Oh, and I didn't even get odds.

I was like, I've trust Michael Jordan. They're going to win. I collected a lot of money. I was a complete douche about it. But it is one of the indisputably wildest moments in the history of the Nick. So that's the end of the draft. Charles Smith, I'm sorry. By all accounts, Charles Smith is a very sweet guy who did not drive with the very unsweet nicks of the Pat Riley era. So that's the draft. Do we have a recap? We have a recap. OJ game. Okay. Should we just vote real quick? Well,

it's like all of yours are negative Nick's moments. Yeah, that's called poisoning the electric throwing them out there. It seems like there's some election fraud. So we should just declare that I want to move on, hanging chads. Should we vote? Okay. If you think Jacobie won just scream. If you think Howard won the scream, if you think the name on the marquee guy won the scream, that's uh. If only we had a history of election fraud in this country.

To conclude with the name on the marquee guy, much, much less cool than the guy that's about to come out. Yeah, incredible Nick's fan, funniest person in the world, and we're going to have a lot

“of fun. Stand up comedian Sam Moral is in the house. Yeah, what's up? Hey. Yeah, what's up?”

No, I'm going to spell. What's up? That's alright. Here's what we're going to do. I'm calling it to Nick's

hate index because we're a wholesome program here. And I have a board here. Oh, I got to get my things. I got my things. You got your things. I'm going this side. I don't know where to go. First of all, you all know who this person is, right? We just saw him perform my wife and I just saw him perform in Stanford. Are we allowed to say what happened after? I don't know. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. We weren't on Epstein's Island. We kept the PG. Just draw jaw-dropping or hilarious, and he was all

yeah, it's just like absolute must see, but you all know who he is. Huge Nick's fan. So here's what

we're going to do. He is going to be the stand-in for Nick's fandom. Yeah, I am going to make a list. Huh? Yeah, let's do. I, there's so much hate in my heart for, I am going to make a list from five to one

“of rival franchises that I think Nick's fans hate the most. And I'm going to see if my list”

matches his list. I also have a couple of placards in here that say other in case he goes off the beaten path a little bit. So I'm hoping I'm kind of hoping he does what we'll see. I'm going to put this here. And I'm just going to go fast because this is your show. So number five, number five,

I'm just going to go other. I'm going to leave the door open for Sam to just be like, I fucking

hate the New Orleans Pelican. It's just explain why. Now it, now it gets hard because we're going into teams. I have Indiana. Miami, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, and Brooklyn. That is some bullshit applause. You know the liberty of the better team, and that's fucking building behind. How many of you actually Brooklyn has fans? That is, but I just assume they don't know basketball if they were for them. It's a fucking terrible franchise. So you'll happy they

blew it. You'll notice that I have other in the fifth spot, which means I just start Brooklyn was not even going to be worth your time. So I eliminated Brooklyn. They're not. They got, remember when they had KD and Kyrie and Zion on that graphic and the next we all wanted them.

“Remember that? And then that was like, we got to get Zion and thank God we didn't get them. That was”

fucking it. You had KD and Kyrie and you still didn't go to the fucking games. It was like, it was like

Denzel doing community theater, basically. You're like, what a waste on this audience. This greatness.

Kyrie Irvin and KD two of the best players ever for this shit? By the way, I had it. I had it. I showed up for Andre Abarniani and MSG. I had an honorable mention list for wild things that didn't make it. And one of them was the Andre Abarniani trade. But I had a whole list of Nick of sad net things that have happened in the last ten years just for fun ranging from toe on the line to vaccination statuses to other kinds of things to the mascot dying. Remember when they killed the

mascot? Because everyone hated it. They straight up poochied the Brooklyn night. Brooklyn night was just gone. Okay. I also guessed it. Philly was not going to be on your list. Wow. Okay. What will see? Philly in the next did not meet in the playoffs from 1989 until 2024. You were at the

“crazy game, too. I think it's been 24 years. I still miss Dante and Isaiah Hardenstein with all my”

heart. That shot was epic. That was crazy. I fucking hate him be dude. I'm just gonna go. I hate him. Grabbing Mitchell Robinson's leg. You fucking fake superstar. Can you imagine Yokeg doing that shit? When Yokeg did it to the Morris Twin. At least there was a call for it. That was weak too. There's a reason why we saved Sam for the end. Just I like this guy. I might be conservative. You'll tell me. Wait. That's Philly at four. Boston fourth. Boston fourth.

Wow. Okay. I think he shouldn't be able to see. What should Philly at three? Wow. This is interesting. Okay. Nope. Chicago. What's six tags? I'm only doing five. I can't see from here. Sorry guys. Chicago, okay. This is where it gets hard because to me, these are the top two, but I'm not an expense. So I don't know. Maybe I'm wildly underestimating, but these next two were really,

really hard, but this is the way I decide to do it. Pace has got to be number one, Doug. Yeah. Okay. Indiana number one is the most hated team. This is my guess. And now I'm gonna let him go. He's gonna make his list. I have others. I have no Philly. No Brooklyn. I have another other Boston Chicago. A lot of history. Obviously a lot of pain, but old pain. Not new pain. This we already had two separate brawls. We're discussed from this rivalry. And this is fresh, fresh pain.

Yeah. Brooklyn has, I can say, right over here. Let's go. Hold on. Yeah. Think about Chicago.

In the 90s, they owned us, but I didn't even consider it a rival because Jordan just owned the whole league. So it wasn't like, do they own us or just own every, it's like, but you feel, you don't feel residual like pain. I do feel pain, but it's, it's almost not even fair that pain, because it's like me being like the guy fucking Sydney Sweeney is my rival. You're the best. I shouldn't even be in the

conversation. So the 92, that was like my first memory because we had McDaniels, like, oh, it was six.

Now it was tough, but they just owned everybody. So I guess I put them like five. Is that right? You didn't really think through this whole two hand situation here. So it's tough. It's tough. You do have a

“Mike state. You can put the Mike in the Mike state as well. That's why they gave it to me. They're afraid”

I was going to knock the whole stage over. All right. Let's see what else we got. I think I'm going filly for just because proximity. You got to give them. And like, I'm so glad Tre young isn't on this fucking list. I'm so sick of hearing. He's banished to Washington, D.C., where he has to suffer. That's, you know, remember, Jevara's, Clinton, tin. He breaks the D.C. and he murdered a guy. And I think he's having a better time in prison right now. Oh, my God, D.C. sucks. I was so worried. Tre was going

to be a problem when he, when he cooked us in that series. It's like a bully you worry about when

you're like in third grade and then he just never grows. And you're like, oh, good. So far in D.C.

So yeah, I'm going filly for because I'll say this. The proximity you kind of have to take that no account, filly's close. There are a tough sports town. There are psychos. They threw fucking batteries at Santa at Negals game. Their savages. I'm going filly for, I have a lot of hatred

“to my heart for, in bead. Like I respect Maxi. I think Maxi's a classy player. But I, in bead once”

he like kicked Hardenstein the nuts and that series, he's trashed to me. I can't. I do respect that the filly section was at least 50% about Tre Young. You know, that series still piss me off. That Tre Young series. Okay. I'm going to go, this is where I'm going to go Miami three. Oh, because I, my childhood, I hate fuck PJ Brown. Fuck that piece of shit forever. Flipping Charlie Ward. Yeah, that team, I hated, uh, Vaishan Leonard, all these names haunt me.

Dan Thunder Dan, dude. I hated him all, Jamal Mashburn. So I, I hated that team, but we kind of had their number for the most part. And we cooked and, you know, the Alan Houston floater rattled in. One seed going down. That was epic. But you know, losing Riley still hurts me. I mean, that was like

“as a 90s kid, Riley was like, he was a classy coach. He was a winner. He came from L.A.”

The way he carried himself with the slick back hair and the cool suits. And you know, and then he just goes to Miami. It felt like looking at an ex moved to Florida and find like the right guy. You know, I'm like, fuck, you figured it out. So there might three. You're doing a great job. You know where this is going. So, you know what number two is. And it's a lot of it is proximity. Again, because, you know, we didn't align. Like, our crimes, our great teams don't really align

with Boston. So you look at like 70s next last time we, people remind me as a next fan. You haven't won in 50 whatever years. I know. I know. I wasn't alive. But that was when we went, you know,

phrase or read, we were amazing. And then the Celtics weren't that great in the 70s. The 80s

come along. They're a dynasty. We're not that good, right? Then we get you in no disrespect. But Dino Roger wasn't winning. You guys are ring. You know? That's true. That's true. That's true, that's true. The Croats with me and my wife, present, uncalled for. Uncalled Dino Roger. You can still have Ian stud though. I had drinks with Dino Roger once in split Croatia. And let me tell you something. Let me say that again. Let me tell you something. It's not a good idea. It didn't go well for me.

It didn't go well for Dino's son who came up to us for a sitting outside and asked for money several times during our three hour beer session. To do no, just don't drink with you. Find a Croatian national team member in a sport. Don't go out to drink with them. Damn. Dino Roger, all right. Well, he looked like an alcoholic too. He was like boulding in his prime. He didn't look good. He shouldn't be like boulding at 26. But, uh, no, he was a, he was a good player.

cried, draws in petrovitch, bloody. That was tough, man. Uh, so then, you know, the, the nicks get

“good. We have mellow. That's when we kind of put, we put, we put it into that Boston team that was kind”

of old peers, uh, KG. That was the hell of a team. But they, they had a great code on to their career with the Brooklyn. That's so. Yeah. That was pretty cool. That was worth all the picks, right? And then, uh, and now it's back again. So now I feel like that, it's also Yankees Red Sox. There's just something about New York Boston. And I love Boston. I taped two specials in Boston. Uh, I have a lot of love for that city, but I fucking hate the Celtics. I hate him, dude. Uh, Jalen Brown is he a great.

I met him once too, and he was super cool. And it bummed me out that he was cool. Because I wanted to hate him. He watched me bomb a show with the Apollo. Don't ask how it. I did this kid's super

fashion week show. And I, here's why I bomb. Here's my opener. They dress you in like a fashion

outfit. And it's all a fashion week people. They're all like, you know, not my audience, obviously. And my opener was like, man, I haven't sweat this much since I had unprotected sex with the

“QAnon chick. And uh, yeah, that's why I fucking bomb the front of Jalen Brown. So, but he came back”

stage and he was really cool. He was like, that was funny. So we hit it off. And, and I was like, and I was trying to plan some, you know, some bad vibes. I was like, dude, what, it's what he said, uh, all these people think it's Tatum's team, though. You know, it's kind of weird. It's like, I don't know. That's what everyone's saying. I just want that. That's my hope is that they just turn on each other. But that how good did that feel when we beat them? That was fucking,

we were down, we were down, game one, and game two, yeah, by 20 in both games. I'm on the road. I'm losing my mind. And then I made it back for the, I was watching the fucking tour bus. And I'm losing it. And then I came back for the game awful game when, uh, Tatum went down. That was terrible. Clearly, he did not see a Nick's fan doctor by the way that turned around for the Achilles. He's like, you got to get surgery immediately. And we can, you know, that was a Nick's fan. He

would be like, "Why do you wait a couple days?" And, uh, we'll see. But, but that one was too offensive even for New York. All right. Uh, there's a line even for New York, I guess. All right. But, no, but then game six where they wanted the garden. I'm there with my buddy, Stavey. We lost our minds. We, we were so happy. We were like, we need to buy Nick's gear to commemorate this night. So I put a grunts and jersey. I'm in a dull. I shouldn't still be buying jerseys. But I was like,

I need a jersey and a hat. And, uh, yeah, we lost them. There's like a picture of us in the street, somewhere, like, uh, like, you go on a seventh avenue in every New York or just losing their mind. That was an epic night. This is sad that this is like my championship. But, uh, but you were talking about it earlier, like the John Stark's dunk. Like, can you imagine talking to a young kid about

“this shit? And I like, that's what we call it. Like, it was the dunk. And you're like, "Oh,”

you mean that thing that happens 47 times, uh, every game?" But that was, that was what we had.

So Boston is too. This is a great, free-lude to potential Nick Celtic second round. This is

all going to get recycled if they play each other in second round. I mean, they're tough. I'm talking to lie. They made me nervous. Like, I had a lot of textlets going like, I don't know if we got this. Like, I fell nervous. Like, that team looked like a super team two years ago with KP and holiday and Horford got old quickly. That was like Obama in office. That was like holy shit. You got gray overnight. That was wild. But, uh, I mean, they were legit. I mean, they were legit. I can't believe

if I'm good they are given how much they lost from last year's team. And Drew's been good to share in Portland when healthy. Drew's been good. No, Drew's, he's one of my favorite players. See, I hated Celtic's gotten. Who doesn't love Drew holidays? Like a two-way beast. He's awesome. But, uh, you know, no, this, the Celtics look good. Frayton Hayden, Fritchard, he annoys a shit out of me that dumb Rick and Morty face. That really, he's so good though.

I was going to say he annoys you partly because he's good and he's like crazy good for someone that height. He's just bullies. It bullies like bigger dudes. Like, shoves him out of the way. It's crazy. He looks like an NBA jam character with that face. But, no, he's a killer dude. He's a one-on-one killer. There's so good in house or hits three and fucking Hugo Chavez or whatever his name is, a new guy, Gonzalez, whatever it's called. Hugo. Hugo. Hugo. Hugo. Yeah, they got, they have a squad

and they got, they got young. Look, it's a good, they made good moves. I am contractually mandated at any mention of Hugo Gonzalez to state that he has one of the best plus minuses in the NBA. You know what bugs me? How much Mazula talks about how much he watches the town? We get it, dude. It's a good movie. But set four times a week. No, you don't. If you watch that movie four times a

when he came on my podcast and I think he kind of like, aren't fully just sidestepped it and I don't think I hit him hard enough. Like, let's do the math. I'm the number of hours that that actually means it. It doesn't change. You know, the ending is the same every time. I know. It's like,

“that's why I like to. Because he looked like all he did was watch basketball. Like, he looked like”

he was just like a motel room on the side of the road, watching, watching play by plays.

I like a coach who's never been married and has nothing else to live for.

I like there's something about he looked broken. They should bring you in for the next cycle of coaching interviews. Do you have any of you who have never been made to want a wife? Yeah, like the movie Eddie with Wipey Goldberg, but me, I would do that. No one remembers that movie. You know, the saddest part of that movie was was the ending was we made the playoffs. It wasn't like we won the ring the like we're in. We made the playoffs. It was to Patrick Beverly, like jump out on

the table after winning the play in game? Yes. All right, what we do, we do appear to have the same number one, which feels like Indiana. You knew who my number one was going to be. I did, I honestly didn't know because my amy hate is very deep and very strong. It's deep, you know what, if this was like three years ago, I might have, I would probably have my amy, too, because Jimmy Butler and Ausluse in that series. Yeah, and also I will say last year's pace your team, pretty,

pretty likable or is no? No, no, hold on, hold on. I hate the pace as much as anybody

here, but they fucking play the right way. The move in the ball, never say I hate that shit.

No, dude, okay, hold on. If TJ McConnell were Nick, you wouldn't fucking love that guy. He's so annoying. We got our own, though. We got Alvarado, but no, but I know what you're saying.

“They move the ball. They're tough to beat because they're unpredictable. That's why”

that you don't know, like Halle Burden is like, you know what he is? He's like, you ever play video games for the guy who just hits every button and like, yeah, I don't know how to defend this shit. You don't know what he's going to do. He's got that ugly ass form. He's weird, but he's, but Halle Burden is, he's proved himself as clutch, and that makes me hate him even more. I hate Reggie Miller. He's probably my number one, most hated ever, I think. So the great thing is that Reggie,

if he were here, would be like, respect that lot. No, you know what? I was at a game last night, and my friend, he was calling the game, Reggie, and he just held, he wasn't even thinking, he just held him. He's like, hey, will you take a picture of us? He handed Reggie the phone, and Reggie just took a picture of us. And I was like, you know who that is, right? That's fucking Reggie Miller. He was like, yeah, it's funny. Reggie would have had,

he would, I mean, if he just took a bunch of pictures of himself, that would have been the coolest move, but no, he was a villain, man, and look, we all know his sister was the better player, but he was a start. He was a start. Cheryl was, Cheryl was the truth, but Reggie, I have to, I have to give him his flowers. He was an incredible player. The reason we hate him so much is because he was like a, he elevated in the playoffs.

He was that dude that if he got the last shot, you knew who was going in. And I, I mean, he did push Greg Anthony, though. I think so Greg Anthony. I think so. I think so. I think so. That eight point. Fuck. Did the next push Tyrese Maxi, if that gave me, yeah, we did. We did. We did, but you know what, that one, yeah, it was, it was cool. In conclusion, should we just say, in conclusion, in conclusion? Look, yeah, playoffs. No, but Reggie,

God, I despise. And he didn't look like an athlete. He looked like he should be connected to a

dialysis machine with that, with that awful physique. That was, I always hated Reggie, but

but you know, he was, he was a gamer dude. Like he was, that team just bugged me too. Mark Jackson

“dumb shimmie. And he was a New Yorker. That's why I really pissed me off because he was ours and we”

let him go. Uh, and that next team was so freaking cool. Like Derek Harper at the point, Starks and Oak and Mason and you in like, Hubert Davis, that team, like, you felt like that team should have won once. So that, that hurt. Uh, they weren't the team that stood in our way. We lost to the rockets, but, you know, what do you, I don't know what you're applauding here. Rock, it's fan. Uh, damn you. A team, yeah, a team is like, see, I should hate the spurs in the rockets,

but they're not like a team is just not Reggie was colorful. He wanted to be the villain. And you got to give it to a team in those two title runs. He was like, every center coming for me. I'm good to embarrass your ass in the playoffs. Dave Robertson, Shack, you and Embarrassed old, strong, but he took it to all of them. It was like, I'm the best guy. I don't know the mess with me. He was the best. It was unfortunate, but, you know, but you ain't doesn't get the

love he deserves. I'm sick of hearing Bill Simmons, Ewing's theory shit. I hate hearing that. I, what, he just has, he has too much hate in his heart for you, and he won't admit it, but

because that's what I mean. You don't know how to defend that guy. He's a wild card. I hate it.

“Mitch, on him too, Mitch normally blocks something like that, but it's so unpredictable. So,”

that game sucked and that, if that game goes the other way as it should have, we were probably in the finals. So that, that one heard, the Pacers are tough. Aaron, Neismith, has had any punishment? Neismith, whatever. Doesn't, doesn't miss a shot. That whole game. Neymar doesn't miss against us. They're, they're, they're a scrappy team. That's why they're tough. And look, maybe in the year Detroit is on this. I didn't even mention Detroit. Ooh, I gave you other. I gave

you other. Other, they're not there yet, but like, dude, I'm not psyched up. Like, even that series of one last year, even that there was a, we might have found Tim Hardaway Jr on that shot.

Might have. But you know what? That's payback for four years, $70 million for,

“that you stole from us. I believe that was 82 million. 82?”

She's, whatever, whatever it was. I remember I was day in the girl at the time and I looked at my phone like, uh, and she's like, who died? I was like, no, we, uh, it's a bad contract. Anyway, uh, yeah, that game sucked, but they, dude, they could have been, they were that tough. They were tough team. They lost, uh, Turner, but I, I also don't like that they got Zubas,

'cause I like how that guy plays. He's good. He's a brick wall. He kind of fits their culture.

So next year, if they get a, a stunner in the lottery. So I'm saying, this, this, so in the end,

“number one, they're number one. I, I, I hate Indiana, but uh, there's a lot of hate in my heart. So”

this could have gotten a lot of way. This is why you got a, this year, like East is going to be a different piece next year. Zubas, who knows what happens with the honest, lots of other stuff. Sam Morrell, just the funniest, dude. Thank you guys. Thanks for coming out. That's it. We're done. Um, thank you to David Jacobi.

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