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Lance, Ali, and Mari break down an action-packed Stage 5, where Demi Vollering outsprinted Kasia Niewiadoma and Marlen Reusser to claim the victory. The crew examines Pauline Ferrand-Prévot's continue...

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I don't care, anybody says, she's paying attention, not just to this race,

she's paying attention to what's happened in the offseason. She's paying attention to Paula Blossie, she knows the number. If we're talking about the number, she knows the number. She's like, hang on, hang on a second. Yeah.

I can ride GC as well. Like, that don't underestimate how much motivation that gives a rider. Olympic medalist, second of the Vualta won the Tour of Swiss this year. No, she knows. I think you're right. All right, everybody, we are back to the move podcast.

What do we know? Over halfway, we're over halfway. Oh, no, it's flying. I mean, not over the riders, but maybe I'll know for you, Ali. Of course, joined by Mari and Ali, she just fair warning everybody. Um, Ali is, I don't know, but maybe because Blaze is out of town.

You, something is going on. She, I don't know if you woke up on the right side or the wrong side of the bed, but it's different. Oh, no. No, it's good. That's good. You'll be you big energy big energy. She was fine. I'm going to be in the gym this morning. Just kidding. I'm just trying to figure out a cute back home by my wife.

I'm going to design your route. Don't you worry. All right, we are talking about stage five action packed, uh, very, very hard hard to watch, actually. Very hot. Uh, I don't know, 10,000 plus feed of vertical climbing. Mal, what did we do here on stage five? Stage five. Macon to Belville and Bojala. This is Macon to Belville and Bojala.

I mean, that's what, like, now we're really in France. Like, that is so cool.

We're in France.

I mean, amazing little roads all day long.

I told you, the roads are narrow. Yeah. These are the kind of roads. Like, if you watch, these are the roads, you know, I like to ride, um, you know, like two hours, two and a half hours. You watch this stage and like, now that, like, little roads, probably very little traffic. Like, that would be a fun place to like chill. Do two and a half, two, two and a half hours, you know, and during the day and then do something else. That would be more region than there's

some rosé and blanket. Having, um, you know, but having the race there and the just action, you know, bodies everywhere. We call it. The race is still going on. They're still riders on the course. Still sad fans, of course. Yeah. Um, and by the way, Ali, uh, maybe that's why you're so excited this morning. We were right. Demi ballering. Twinsies. Yeah. I mean, uh, you don't want to be cute, but you're cute. And a lot of headlines. Demi wins. Demi wins. Lot of headlines. Lot of takeaways today.

I think obviously we have the, uh, Demi was superb. Um, she, she made the race aggressive.

She, uh, won the stage. Got the time bonus. And, and the other thing is we have, before the race, we talked about the big three. I think we have to kind of reshuffle now the big three. Well, I think you also have to look at Marlin and how sure she's in. She's now and then. Yeah. She looked great. Yeah. I mean, and Paul Lane, they was something about it early on. And I don't, you know, I don't

know, I've never ridden with her. A lot of times you ride with people and you really get to know

the way they pedal on the way they sit on a bike. She, to me, just just watching. She just hasn't looked comfortable on today. It was, it all came down today. Yeah. I still, I still have some high hopes. But, um, yeah, today was, it was very sad day for that team. I think you come. She didn't look comfortable, as you said. She didn't look comfortable on her time trial by yesterday. It's just, it's hard. I did like to. I did like the quote yesterday. Um, you know, I think she handled the

press quite well when you have the entire world analyzing your position and your performance. And what part of it? Yeah. I was a clatter. I saw our Instagram clip yesterday. I was like, how long did you? That's kind of mean. I felt like I did. But actually, though, her quote was very cute. She goes, it was the best time trial of, you know, my career basically because of the season because she doesn't time trial. Yeah. I mean, that's so fair point. And, and Pauline, I still, I still have

very, very high hopes. But I think my ultimate theme of today is Lance, the doctor is in session.

Well, coming back to PFP for one second. I feel like, um, you know, I hope that it's not the Iliak arteries causing, causing this problem and making her readjust her positions on the bike, because she did look different on the like, and you hope that that's not the reason that this

is going on because we all want to see her racing for a lot more years because she's amazing. So,

you know, hopefully that's not the case. She looks uncomfortable on the bike. Two Iliak surgeries, but she did win the tour after post those surgeries. But our guy Colton sent me an article that

To remind us that she did have ankle surgery over the off season from a start...

kind of the festering pretty, pretty grotesque injury. So maybe, but she did have a pretty good early

season and then started faltering, so I'm curious what that's like. Um, I mean, cannot be easy, right?

Obviously, she's French. This is the the tour de France family of ex-wife. She is the defending champion. Um, what advice would you give her girl? I mean, look, I know exactly what she was thinking. I mean, she was three minutes down, right? She's there with just a couple of other ladies going

into the tour. She'd never envisioned being on this stage with those riders, like she envisioned

something different. Are those guys? Although Ann Avanna Bragan was there with her too. Yeah, it's just it's not, it's not a fun place to be. She's probably taken all the inventory she can in her head. And the thing that I'm struck by is that this isn't just as I watch her, right? And I watch clearly a difference between her and Demi, her and Cassie, and now her and Dr. Roycer, um, this is a big difference. But what really strikes me is that the difference between Pauline and 2026 and Pauline

in 2025 is that is a huge difference. This is, I mean, in terms of percentage points behind, it's just something is off, whether it's the injuries, the surgeries, perform, not the best prep. Uh, you know,

by the way, too, I mean, you know, she was the bell of the ball. I mean, she's French, the French,

um, in this event, whether it's the men's race, the women's race, having won this race in 50 years.

So you have to imagine her off season, which by the way, I wouldn't falter at all for really

enjoying herself and being honored and being, um, um, really a heralded and promoted in the country of France. I could have come, uh, that could have been an issue. But it's just, I also don't think you can downplay the fact that the, the factor of weather in this, too. I mean, with it being so hot, and if you, like, get a little bit behind on your recovery for whatever reason, even if you have the best preparation and the best people helping you, you know, recovering from those things and trying to

come back. I mean, we're seeing, we're seeing a lot of that out there. The lens happened with her, too.

Yeah. No, I possibly, but Landside a question on this, like, you know, when you win your first tour

and you come back with that pressure, like, how do you, like, is it the pressure or is it the preparation? Is it, you try to do it the same as you did last year and now you're doing something

different? Like, what would you recommend or what did you do to kind of overcome something like this?

Well, I don't, I mean, she strikes and I, again, I don't, I've, I've communicated just a little bit with Pauline, but she strikes me as a person who is just a stone cold killer, right? She, that's the reason she has won and every discipline in cycling, because whatever the bike is that they put underneath her, as long as they put the numbers on her back, she is going to race. So that, I would think that there's a couple of ways to do it. You could say, hey, I won the tour

career, that, you know, that was the, the crown jewel for me, or you could say, wow, that was great. I won another one, or I want two more, or I want my, my feeling at the, after 1999 was, wow, that was really cool. I think I want another one of these. Yeah. And maybe a whole another one and I had a whole, you know, there's all, all the other story lines and narratives that that were the situation in the year 2000, because 1999, John wasn't there, and Pantani wasn't there. And so there was plenty of

chatter that, yeah, okay, and the cancer kid won, great. But Pantani wasn't there, and John wasn't there. And they were there in 2000. I said, okay, well, now everybody's here. So now we'll see. So I use that as fuel. Again, I don't know her. I don't know what motivates her, but, and by the way, too, if, if you're off physically and there are things and we can, like, again, I can see it. That is a person uncomfortable on a bicycle. So it's the tour de France. You saw the

stage, like the last thing you want to be is uncomfortable. Yeah. I'm rooting for me too. And now, and, and as we said, we have to reshuffle the top three, Dr. Roycer. I love, I love Dr. Roycer. I just learned yesterday that she's the, you know, the educated. But by the way, Nudo over there, well, you get on there, figure out what percentage of these women are educated. I'll get on that part. I bet it's a shockingly high number. Because it's in the men's belt on,

it's like, yeah, I think Paul is also a doctor isn't she? I mean, there's a lot of smart women here. All right, and the men's race and the tour de France, Rebecca. You're sitting next to too, very smart. No, I don't know. Like, P.H. She's insane. I don't have a doctor. And you're sitting next to the guy that, you know, barely clawed out a plane-o-e-singer high. Who's way better than that? So I need you to get propeller head out of there. Get, it's anyhow.

I will find that out.

I'm reminded of one writer. And it's not a female writer. It's, it's a male writer. She reminds me so much of Miguel Ender-ri. She does say a lot. She doesn't get out of the saddle. It's the steady, cool metronome style. She doesn't panic. She can time trial. She can climb. Yeah. She, look, she's not going to attack and ride away and make these really dynamic moves. But she doesn't have to. She has time. She has a bandage. If she just stays within herself,

and that's a big, you never know. And that's what Ender-ri ended. Like, he was always in control.

He got time in the time trials. He let guys have the TV attacks. And he said, "I'm just going to stay here with this rhythm." And I'm going to have some teammates around me. And guess what? It worked five times for him. So, and by the way, she's wearing number 51, which is a famous number. When it comes to the history of the tour. And it is. Number 51 is outside of number one, which number one has the most wins in, in tour history, obviously. Number 51 has the second most. Yeah. Pretty fascinating.

It's amazing. It's like, we talked about it last year. But also like, I think, when Rooster attacks these

climbs, there's some, like, confidence in this, where she has said that people always underestimate her,

because she's tall. She's a bigger writer than the others. But she, like, we talked about yesterday that she can control her effort. And we're watching it today. The accelerations happen. And she just stays on the gas. And I think there is a lot of interest to me on this confidence, where you see the surges. You see that. And you go, not, not my problem. Not my problem. And she was really following them pretty well, though. I mean, on those really steep sections, she wasn't for the most part,

letting big gaps open, kind of riding herself back into it. She was right there, just looking comfortable, which says to me that she has a little bit more. So, you know, she's riding really incredible. She knows we said this yesterday. Look, I don't care, anybody says. She's paying attention, not just to this race. She's paying attention to what's happened in the offseason. She's paying attention to Paula Blossie. She knows the number. We're talking about the number. She knows the number.

She's like, hang on. Hang on a second. Yeah. I can ride GC as well. Like, that don't underestimate how much motivation that gives a writer. Olympic medalist, second of the Walter won the Tour of Swiss this year. No, she knows. I think you're right. No. I think her confidence, and I'm going to say ego in the nice way. Like, it's like, it's ego. She's what she's also been riding. Don't forget, she's been riding with Demi for a lot of years before too. It was her teammate

and knows the things that concerned Demi knows like how she thinks in her race has probably helped manage that in her race. So, she has a lot of this knowledge that's going to help her be able to be, you know, prepared to do what she can with the form that she has now. Doctors in session. Doctors in the house. Here we go. Today's job brought to you by Pioneer Pastures, full disclosure. I love this brand. Love it so much. I invested in the company. Actually, I was

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maxing, like why maybe we shouldn't even feed into this thing. But we just, it just continues to be,

I am, you know, I, I think stories, story lines like this in cycling and, and you look at the

men's tour with the, the middle of the night controls. You know, there's been a guard 2 a.m. Toddy poker chart 5 a.m. This was international news and this was really, if you looked at a heat map, this was the biggest news story of the Twitter friends. Not what Toddy did. In this particular, uh, in the Twitter friends family of ex-wifth, this whole bra maxing thing, my buddy sent me a mod, a shadow sent me, there's some story in a British paper

that said, I think we have, uh, an image. Oh, yeah, it's had it results. That's better than my inflate gate. Yeah, I just don't dare sport of cycling. Um, I know we got to have rules, but when you're, when your rules are like this and whatever, and those are the only things to get headlines,

I just think it takes away from the, the incredible performances of these women, the incredible

drama of what this race will surely give us. This, this, this has shame, right? And so, yeah, I was getting texts like my girlfriend cat texts me and she's like, oh, what's the next thing that teams are gonna go to hooters to like find better time for a list and I'm like, oh my god, like, this is cycling. Come on people. There's a story secret to my family. I do like this and I'll skip though. It's going to be, it's going to be good. Dude, sound like Boulder over there.

Please, they get more people watching women's like, oh my god. But I think though, Lance, like, we won. We won our call for the day. So you and I are definitely. Well, we almost lost. That's true. This Cassia did, uh, I thought her attack was perfectly timed. She got the gap. She was within, I feel like she was 150 meters from the line and still had four or five links. I was like,

oh, this, I said it. It's over. It's over. That's what you said. And they caught her.

Let's probably got that on camera. Demi looks good. Demi knows there's time bonuses on the line. By the way,

Marla Dr. Roycer got the first, the intermediate time bonus. So she netted two seconds on Demi.

And then Demi gets the finish line time bonus. And so she nets four, which equals two. So her, but the, the GC gap goes from 14 seconds to 12 seconds. I'd love one. Plano guy does math for me. You know, you normally time bonuses don't matter. Yeah. But they might. Right. I mean, the, the, the X factor here is month on two. And I said it yesterday. I'll say it again. This is the hardest climb in the entire country. So, and they're still an X now on what that stage is

going to look like. Yeah. So that was supposed to come out yesterday. Like we talked about. And they have given an update on her. They said that was yesterday. Which is maybe good news. I hope it's the full stage in the way the glory of the two or should be. Well, before we do that, these ladies have to get through tomorrow. And this one is another nasty one. If you were a bit the bag of the peloton swing

in today in the first third of the race, don't look at the profile tomorrow. And don't look at the

temperature. Don't look at the pavement. Don't think about the pavement. This is an nasty stage. 10,000. No, sort of about 8,500 feet of vertical climbing. One, two, three, four, five. Six,

categorized climbs. Never flat. It's going to be a hard day. It's a hard day. It's a hard day. I think it's

tomorrow's a good day for a breakaway. But there is that bonus sprint. But I think that's negligible. But those, you know, Dr. Roycer and Demi are happy to let those. They would just soon call the truth and say, let's not mess with the time bonus. Let, you know, let a breakaway go up the road. But there are people, you know, below them who need to get some time, you know. So you're looking at like Vanderbrain again, last time today. And obviously PFP. I mean, there are a few people who

would want to be in a break as possible. Well, they're not going to let Paul Lingo. Well, I mean, but there are other people in there too who have Kim McCourt. I mean, there are people in this like four minutes downrange. Yeah, maybe they let go. I mean, I think it's a good breakaway day. Going to be a smaller group again. It'll be similar. I think to today. And then you'll get a break maybe coming off of that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's listen, of, on to otherwise known as the giant

took Provence, we'll, we'll be sitting at the back of our race lines. No matter what happens tomorrow, along if they know that the next day they have to tackle the want to. Well, and also a lot looks at how people recover tonight because it's the fifth day. You can tell that a lot of people are really tired. The heat's getting to them. That makes it so you don't sleep as well. You know, you start out the day a little bit, you know, bad. And then I mean, there were people getting dropped from the start

today. And people are still not finished yet as we're talking. Yeah. Well, most have now. And they finished. We were going to eye in the time. I, the time cut was right around 35 minutes.

Yeah.

admire from Canyon SRAM. I think excellent performance. And I mean, I was calling Paula Blossie since our preview show. We had a little drama where, uh, Lamborghini, so Lisa Lambert or, Lamborghini's like, oh, then media is playing up this team like dynamics and it makes me, it makes me sad. And I was like, oh, no, but it's actually true, right? Like, it's hard. But Antonio, uh, our new

best young rider 23 years old. Um, and this is our first tour to frontspend effects with. And she's a

world-class ski mountaineer. So that talk lungs light. Well, you've done that. That's, I did that when we lived here. I would, you know, go skinny and that's hard sport. She didn't start cycling until COVID happened and all the ski resorts got closed and she's like, well, I can't ski. I might as will ride my bike. Great crossover for cycling. I think it's incredible. Uh, I think one other team

you have to look at for tomorrow's stage would be the UAE team because they have three riders in

the top 10. So Paula Bozzi is in at 351. I mean, they could try and get one of their right one of my top picks for the overall, to be honest, if they're all good. Overall win, uh, overall podium. Okay. Oh, breaking breaking news. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, tonight. Don't count out Casia. I'm telling you one two is this is another, this is another thing. This is this is another thing. It's especially, and listen, Vauntu, even on our year where it's not scorching heat throughout the country,

Vauntu's always hot. I don't even, it's going to be an oven. Oh, I did notice. It's an interesting

climb. It's just, it's a strange climb. Team dynamics play because it sends Vauntu's so exposed. Like, after you get all the trees and stuff, do you think team dynamics matter more on Vauntu than they do on a Madeleine or an outdoors or something like that? That's much steeper. So it's hard. It would be hard for a team to sit up there and ride tempo and like for, for Marlon's team. Like, it's just hard to control that race. There's no switchbacks that there's

no, look, switchbacks are, we're designed to sort of, you know, for a lot of reasons, but when it comes to cycling, switchbacks are just a nanosecond upper spite, right? They're a little flatter

than the actual climb. Vauntu has no switchbacks. Okay. That's one switchback down towards the bottom.

It, the rest of the climb is straight. There's no relief. I'm telling you, this thing's this

nest. Well, the heat's going to be of the huge factor, too. I think the strongest team we have is

FDJ and I don't think Marlon has the team, but does she need one? No, no, I mean, you saw it today. There was not many riders left. I mean, there's going to be the same situation. I mean, she's the same same tomorrow too, by the way. Yeah. I'll caught you. Has her teammate need a mire to help her, like, set it up for her to go on that climb. So, be interesting. Another, another day we have no idea what's going on and more game on. Well, we kind of have an idea.

Well, break GC. Yeah. You know, yes. That's true though. We do. We know so much more. I don't know so much, but I don't say we don't have any idea what's going on. Well, that's true. It's exciting. How about that? It's exciting. Let's hear from you guys and remind her, here's our number to give us call 9707182736. It's going to be Marie's personal number today. It's, uh, we had an interesting

thing with Liz Cruz yesterday that I, that we're running tight on time. I might save it for tomorrow.

She had a very weird scenario where she thought she was going to get attacked by a mountain line. I was going to go rescue her. But that is just so scary. I would tackle you. I would tackle you. I'm not about she's running from behind. Now you're getting ugly pictures that you is. And this is, I can be your emergency contact Liz. I responded right away and I put close on. Okay. That was shocking. Call number one. This is Bill from Brooklyn. I'm one of

the ones that women are going to be allowed if that's the right word. To race two weeks. They obviously have the physical capabilities. What do you guys think about sure? Thank you. Right. I mean, it's getting longer and longer. We're getting there. I feel like ASO is doing a good job of growing this race in a way that the Peloton can handle it or all the world to her teams can handle it. So it seems like this rate of one more day every year has been good. And so I would say

a few more years and we'll be there. Yeah. I'm going to agree with that. It's got to be a slow build. And I know that we are capable of longer races, more stages. However, you're looking at it. You don't want to limit the teams when these compared to the men's teams that hold 30 riders on

Their roster and women's teams have 12 to 16.

you those percentages, 11% of this field have raised all three grand tours. And if you look at

the men's, it's not going to look that way because you have more riders to fill those gaps.

But then there's also more racing days. So the three women's grand tours roughly is 25 racing days. And the men's for three grand tours is 63 race days. So you can't do that with a roster of 8 to 16 riders. So it's about just building that momentum. And I am a huge fan. Of course, we all are Lance. Thank you for being such a fan girl of women's cycling. I love it. But we also need to make sure we're doing it the right way where there's viability in this where it's sustainable because we don't

want to just say, sure, we can go ride 150 miles every day for 21 days. For sure, we can. But how

are they going to staff their teams, the riders pay these million dollar salaries that we're seen. So

I actually agree with Mari that the way the ASO is growing this that might be a little bit, you know, I say slow for a lot of people. But I think if you look at these stats that I've been pulling out, like, I think it's just the way to make sure that this is the biggest bike show on Earth. And how do we make sure that the riders and the teams can fund it? Yeah. And look, it's trending in the right direction, right? It would be a great thing if you're one, it was eight days. And then

they said, well, I will scale it back to six, like we're moving actually your one was seven days. I mean, we're we're trending in the right direction. Yeah, I agree. And at a time trial, so the

start still can feel just like, yeah, you have to think about the whole ecosystem, not just this race.

So, you know, we want the three grand tours, but they all have to grow at the same kind of pace. Yeah, by the way, having this one last, you know, fun fact for those at home who don't know, of course, in Ben cycling, you have the zero, then the tour, then the welta, which to me sort of means like, yeah, then the welta's out there. Like, that's maybe they don't think about it that way anymore. This current peloton, but I would. But the women's sport is structured in a way that this is

the granddaddy. This is the final one. So, if there ever was, I keep going back to this idea of a grand slam because I just love it. Like, it should end. Like, the grand slam should end with this one. You sure? I mean, so, so again, trending in the right direction, I love that the dude from Brooklyn does to get question about it and just give him a pass to the Jackson. Yeah, I love it too.

That was good. Cool. And what's our next one? Hey, my name is Victor. First time series,

what's your of the tour of the farm? I have two girls that I'm trying to motivate to cycling. I would love to hear what you guys think about processes and ideas that get them to get excited. Thank you. Watch the fans watch the fan hashtag. Yeah, I mean, well, look, I, well, I'm not going to have a lot to say about this one because look, my high five kids, none of the Aggie questions all is how do your kids ride or ride with a kid? Like, they ride a little bit.

Yeah. Like, Grace will, will come out with us and we'll go ride the bells for fun, but my kids are as he George and Inzo. I'm like, like, those the Armstrong kids are not like that. Like, the they had the kind of one rule. And I was like, just do something and I will support that. If you want to play drum bone, great. Let's go be a great drum bone player. You don't play volleyball to Olivia. Great. Maximum play golf cool. Let's go. Luke won't play football at Radon. The Nike thing.

I don't try. I hear a lot about Nike and I remember when it started and I thought, now, this is going to be interesting, but it just seems to have, they seem to have done a great job. They do, they've done a great job. And so there are a lot of kids getting involved in riding bikes now in high school. That's the high school league. And it's mountain biking, but I think once the kids start riding mountain bikes, they start getting interested in cycling. And if you're

interested in cycling, you want to watch the tour to France. If you're a girl, you want to watch

the tour to France of Ex-Lift. So, you know, it's like, my hope is that that's how we start attracting

more kids into this sport. They get out there. They're having fun. And the kids who want to be competitive

are always going to be looking for that. How do I race? Kind of situation. And then we just have to

have opportunities for them to get out there and do it. Yeah. I mean, I didn't do organized sports at all growing up. I grew up on a cattle ranch. And I know you make fun of you for being a cowgirl, but I didn't. And then, I mean, but I think it's just for parents out there is to just encourage activity. And I think, I mean, there's so many stats and studies on just getting girls to start sports and stay in sports, past puberty. So, between the 12 and 14,

whatever that looks like. And then, Lance, you'll love this for next ventures and these firms that we work with is that the female leaders most likely have played sports. And you don't need to be the best in the world at your sports. So, I think I highly encourage just parents to, whether it's cross country or soccer or for me was riding a horse around a ranch. It's just

Being active and getting strong, which does leave me into something.

about the about women who lead companies who play, I mean, no, it's crazy. It's like 90%.

Yeah, the nursing young percentage of female CEOs in the United States of America.

That that played team sports as growing up is like 90%. Yeah. No, it's a crazy number. I went by the way, cycling. Very much a team sport. Yeah. It is a team sport. And I went to Congress

with Mel Strong. Your team may on next ventures to talk about this to get more investment in women's

sports. But this does bring me as we close the show to I had a wonderful conversation with my

goddaughter last night. Her name's C.C. She goes to Lodi High. And C.C. here has been cheering

beyond racing since the Amgen Tour of California. So, she grew up watching me race. And now she is watching the move in her French class. So, be careful on your language lands, but she's now Now following this, with her whole French class. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

But this is our future leader, right here, is C.C. Callarassee. I know, and now she's 16, so there she is.

It's okay, I'll roll on. She plays tennis. I play tennis in college and there she is playing tennis for Lodaiha in Lodai California. Isn't this so cool. So yeah, I maybe we bring Mel back on to the show to teach French more, because I was just saying there's one little sliver at the start for the French class. We speak in English. Do you speak French? I do. I didn't ask you. Oh, I don't speak French. Oh, I don't speak French. I'll tell you, do you speak French? Do you really speak French? We.

Okay, I could have done that. So my little French, which is your way of tennis. All right. Well, hey, we will be back tomorrow, another doozy of a stage and to be followed up by the bond too. It's going to get interesting. There's already been some, I love these races that

are any race, where there's just surprises. We have we, Pauline is the first big surprise.

Except you're not that surprised. I just, I don't, um, should just, no, I'm not. I know. I'm not surprised. I am, but I have so much hope. Yeah, I'll keep your fingers crossed. All right, everybody. Thanks for tuning in. We will see you tomorrow. Three, two, one. Bye.

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